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"end": 1187.559}, {"text": "council it is an honor to be recognized in this manner I know I stand in a spot", "start": 1187.559, "end": 1194.84}, {"text": "where Council has recognized people with far long ER service to the city than", "start": 1194.84, "end": 1201.36}, {"text": "mine being invited to speak is a testament to the importance Council", "start": 1201.36, "end": 1207.32}, {"text": "places on the city's accountability framework this", "start": 1207.32, "end": 1213.36}, {"text": "morning I am not going to be delivering any advice to you which you may be relieved to", "start": 1213.36, "end": 1221.679}, {"text": "hear I am also going to be brief in my remarks or at least brief for me which", "start": 1221.679, "end": 1227.96}, {"text": "you may also be relieved to hear this morning I would simply like to", "start": 1227.96, "end": 1233.919}, {"text": "express my thanks first I would like to thank Council for providing me this", "start": 1233.919, "end": 1240.559}, {"text": "opportunity to serve the people of the city of Toronto this has been a very special", "start": 1240.559, "end": 1246.64}, {"text": "chapter in my career my family moved to aobo as City Hall was being", "start": 1246.64, "end": 1254.6}, {"text": "completed my father who was a civil engineer was hired by Public Works to", "start": 1254.6, "end": 1261.12}, {"text": "help organize the move into this building from across the", "start": 1261.12, "end": 1266.679}, {"text": "street one of the things our family is most proud of is that he helped with the", "start": 1266.679, "end": 1272.76}, {"text": "installation of Henry Moore's archer in the Square outside so it is nice to see the artist", "start": 1272.76, "end": 1280.799}, {"text": "commemorated today by the city as a kid I remember coming to City", "start": 1280.799, "end": 1289.039}, {"text": "Hall with my father sometimes when we were the only", "start": 1289.039, "end": 1294.32}, {"text": "people in this building and that's when I 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whole Toronto public service for their support", "start": 1360.24, "end": 1368.039}, {"text": "over the last five years it has also been an honor to work", "start": 1368.039, "end": 1373.559}, {"text": "with the city's other accountability officers past and present and their", "start": 1373.559, "end": 1378.84}, {"text": "teams I could not have asked for better colleagues the city is fortunate to be", "start": 1378.84, "end": 1385.559}, {"text": "served with such distinction by Ombudsman kwami AO auditor general Tara", "start": 1385.559, "end": 1391.88}, {"text": "Anderson and lobbyist registar Steven Little", "start": 1391.88, "end": 1397.24}, {"text": "John this may not often be said from this Podium but I would also like to", "start": 1397.4, "end": 1403.4}, {"text": "thank the Press gallery for their reporting and the role they play in", "start": 1403.4, "end": 1409.36}, {"text": "maintaining accountability at City Hall", "start": 1409.36, "end": 1414.84}, {"text": "occasionally when writing about one of my reports to councel someone would slip", "start": 1414.84, "end": 1420.88}, {"text": "in an R after the b in my last", "start": 1420.88, "end": 1427.2}, {"text": "name but I always I always ascribe that to being a", "start": 1428.6, "end": 1435.48}, {"text": "typo rather than an editorial comment", "start": 1435.48, "end": 1440.44}, {"text": "I must also recognize my team we are only a threers", "start": 1441.159, "end": 1447.559}, {"text": "office Lisa def feliche our administrative coordinator is the", "start": 1447.559, "end": 1453.2}, {"text": "helpful and Ina and empathetic point of first Contact for people looking for", "start": 1453.2, "end": 1459.919}, {"text": "help Kate zavitz is the legal counsel who has always provided wise and expert", "start": 1459.919, "end": 1466.6}, {"text": "legal advice and help me navigate through the complexities and nuances of", "start": 1466.6, "end": 1472.279}, {"text": "city government thank you", "start": 1472.279, 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city with no closed doors with no glass ceilings and welcome door is a permanent", "start": 2281.68, "end": 2288.92}, {"text": "opportunity for all who seek it all the speakers were clear when we connect the", "start": 2288.92, "end": 2294.52}, {"text": "dots of who we are and where we come from and where we want to be we are a city that needs Grassroots organizations", "start": 2294.52, "end": 2301.48}, {"text": "our social capital and the ability to bring people of all fa and nationalities together when whether one was born here", "start": 2301.48, "end": 2308.48}, {"text": "or chose Toronto to settle here and begin a new that to keep this city great to go about our lives in peace and", "start": 2308.48, "end": 2314.599}, {"text": "comfort and freedom and dignity and high purpose we must work as one not just sharing a postal code but sharing the", "start": 2314.599, "end": 2320.96}, {"text": "values and character that Define who we are we thank all of these groups for visiting us 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for consideration thank you thank", "start": 3012.079, "end": 3020}, {"text": "you councelor mckel you have a motion to introduce infrastructure number environment committee", "start": 3022, "end": 3028.64}, {"text": "report thank you madam speaker that the report from meeting 17 of the infrastructure and environment committee", "start": 3028.64, "end": 3034.359}, {"text": "listed on the agenda Council be presented for consideration thank", "start": 3034.359, "end": 3041.4}, {"text": "you councel perks you have a motion to introduce the planning and housing committee", "start": 3041.72, "end": 3048.52}, {"text": "report good morning speaker I move that the report from meeting 16 of the planning and housing committee listed on", "start": 3050.28, "end": 3055.92}, {"text": "the agenda of Council be presented for consideration thank", "start": 3055.92, "end": 3063.079}, {"text": "you councelor holiday you have a motion to introduce the toico York commit", "start": 3064.319, "end": 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3229.4}, {"text": "interest at this time if you do please indicate the item number and the nature", "start": 3229.4, "end": 3234.44}, {"text": "of the interest remember that you must also file a written Declaration of your interest with the city", "start": 3234.44, "end": 3240.52}, {"text": "clerk okay I will now call for petitions are", "start": 3240.52, "end": 3245.88}, {"text": "there any petitions at this time councelor Bradford you indicated that you have a", "start": 3245.88, "end": 3252.72}, {"text": "petition thanks Madam speaker I do I I see councelor Thompson's on the list before me I don't know if that's uh if", "start": 3252.72, "end": 3260.4}, {"text": "he to me so I didn't see okay go ahead I'll go to councelor Thompson after you", "start": 3260.4, "end": 3266.16}, {"text": "sure uh thanks Madam speaker uh I have a petition here uh it is uh I want to I", "start": 3266.16, "end": 3272.52}, {"text": "want to present it it's brought forward by a coalition of multifaith 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{"text": "deferred item before us today which is DM 23.1 the mayor has designated item ex1", "start": 3500.24, "end": 3506.96}, {"text": "18.2 build more homes expanding inent incentives for purpose build", "start": 3506.96, "end": 3513.44}, {"text": "rental housing as a first key matter and first item of business today the mayor", "start": 3513.44, "end": 3518.76}, {"text": "has designated item pH 16.4 on implementing a rental renovation license", "start": 3518.76, "end": 3524.68}, {"text": "bylaw to address rental evictions as her second key matter and first item a business tomorrow the notice of motion", "start": 3524.68, "end": 3532.28}, {"text": "run through is scheduled for 2 p.m. tomorrow only if the key matter MERS are completed members there are some related", "start": 3532.28, "end": 3539.44}, {"text": "matters on the agenda that I propose to be considered together if they are held", "start": 3539.44, "end": 3546.359}, {"text": "CC CC 23.1 and mm 23.14 as they both relate to 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4085.039, "end": 4094.359}, {"text": "Linn thank you yes I'd like to um release my hold on item CC 26 23.6 and", "start": 4096.44, "end": 4104.96}, {"text": "hold uh CC 23.1 6 thank", "start": 4104.96, "end": 4111.88}, {"text": "you you want to hold 4959 Lawrence Avenue East okay correct thank you and", "start": 4114.08, "end": 4123.758}, {"text": "then and release CC 23.6 but I've got a note here that councelor Cole wants to", "start": 4123.759, "end": 4129.719}, {"text": "hold that item down so you're withdrawing that hold councelor Cole right no", "start": 4129.719, "end": 4137.159}, {"text": "councelor Cole I got a note that you want to hold CC 23.6 is that correct either one what", "start": 4137.159, "end": 4145.52}, {"text": "do you mean either one the new counselor can hold it or I", "start": 4145.52, "end": 4151.238}, {"text": "can hold it take your pick but councelor Cole she's released it oh yes you it I", "start": 4151.239, "end": 4158.08}, {"text": "want it then so you want 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"18.3 okay so what once we go through this and we'll go back to it thank you", "start": 4279.12, "end": 4284.84}, {"text": "count Carol speaker I want to be the first", "start": 4284.84, "end": 4292}, {"text": "with a time sensitive [Laughter]", "start": 4292, "end": 4297.32}, {"text": "item wow you guys you guys are really driving me crazy", "start": 4297.32, "end": 4304.76}, {"text": "today yeah wow okay let me see what I'm doing here", "start": 4305.56, "end": 4313.6}, {"text": "okay yeah so C councelor Fletcher you hold on let me put your mic", "start": 4313.6, "end": 4321.8}, {"text": "on councelor Fletcher on E1 18.3 which you've held you want to", "start": 4321.8, "end": 4327.199}, {"text": "release it but say a few words correct yes I would uh speaker thank you very much and tomorrow I believe we'll have a", "start": 4327.199, "end": 4334.44}, {"text": "ceremony so uh colleagues as of last Friday Toronto actually has a brand new", "start": 4334.44, "end": 4340.239}, {"text": "island we now have two islands and in 2023 and 20 24 you all supported uh my", "start": 4340.239, "end": 4348.159}, {"text": "motions for an indigenous name for our new island I want to thank you for that that would tell the story of thousands", "start": 4348.159, "end": 4355.6}, {"text": "of years of indigenous Life along Toronto's Waterfront which has really", "start": 4355.6, "end": 4361.159}, {"text": "been hidden from history and today we will officially while I hope a recorded vote adopt the new name oan mening which", "start": 4361.159, "end": 4369.8}, {"text": "means place of the black cherry tree island of black cherry trees as as well", "start": 4369.8, "end": 4375.44}, {"text": "as the name for our beautiful new Waterfront Park 25 acres Vias which", "start": 4375.44, "end": 4380.96}, {"text": "means sunlight shining on us and when we opened the river officially last Friday", "start": 4380.96, "end": 4387.36}, {"text": "it was a beautiful sunny day on the waterfront when the 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"response uh for this program that we've seen since uh the report first came", "start": 5225.119, "end": 5231.159}, {"text": "forward and passed at committee uh can you share with us what the demand response has been uh to the", "start": 5231.159, "end": 5239.28}, {"text": "program um good morning uh Deputy Mayor um and through the speaker today yes so", "start": 5239.28, "end": 5245.76}, {"text": "we have had um a fairly steady and significant response to the proposals", "start": 5245.76, "end": 5251.76}, {"text": "that were adopted by committee uh we've heard from a number of larger purpose", "start": 5251.76, "end": 5257.96}, {"text": "built rental developers that they're very interested in the program um and that is one of the reasons why we um", "start": 5257.96, "end": 5265.119}, {"text": "brought a supplementary Report with some additional considerations for how we might actually run the the phase one of", "start": 5265.119, "end": 5272.239}, {"text": "this program and can you 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renters finding places and keeping places in the", "start": 5361.84, "end": 5367.88}, {"text": "city was one of the main motivations to require the inclusion of the 20%", "start": 5367.88, "end": 5373.119}, {"text": "affordable uh rental knowing that the balance as purpose built rental is still important for our city and will help uh", "start": 5373.119, "end": 5380.199}, {"text": "stabilize the vacancy rate in our city and ultimately rents um but it was the inclusion of the the affordable housing", "start": 5380.199, "end": 5386.8}, {"text": "for you know targeting 99 years for a minimum of 40 with our income base", "start": 5386.8, "end": 5392}, {"text": "definition that was the primary driver or one of the key factors that helped us shape this program thank you very much", "start": 5392, "end": 5398.36}, {"text": "and just my final question is uh about how the city will monitor the progress of these projects and ensure that they", "start": 5398.36, "end": 5405.36}, {"text": "are 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5444.76, "end": 5450.679}, {"text": "much thank you councilor perks councelor perks I believe that you", "start": 5450.679, "end": 5457.56}, {"text": "have an introduction at this time yes uh speaker one", "start": 5457.56, "end": 5463.639}, {"text": "moment I believe the students are in the council chambers there they are members", "start": 5464.88, "end": 5470.88}, {"text": "I'd like you to join me in welcoming the grade five students from Howard Junior Public School uh they are here today", "start": 5470.88, "end": 5477.96}, {"text": "with their teachers Madame durong and Madame maand uh they're here to learn a", "start": 5477.96, "end": 5483.119}, {"text": "little bit about local democracy so put on a good show for them welcome", "start": 5483.119, "end": 5488.52}, {"text": "[Applause]", "start": 5488.52, "end": 5492.929}, {"text": "guys okay councelor sax you have", "start": 5497.04, "end": 5503.28}, {"text": "questions uh yes thank you although first I do have to say to the students I went to Howard Junior Public School", "start": 5503.28, "end": 5510.04}, {"text": "so there you go all right um question for staff uh thank you very much for the", "start": 5510.04, "end": 5515.44}, {"text": "supplementary report and thank you for uh including my item about providing", "start": 5515.44, "end": 5520.679}, {"text": "environmental information um to the developers my question is about double counting now it's a very high priority", "start": 5520.679, "end": 5528.119}, {"text": "for the city to get new purpose built and affordable rental housing and we're", "start": 5528.119, "end": 5533.28}, {"text": "bending all sorts of policy tools towards it the purpose of this", "start": 5533.28, "end": 5539.6}, {"text": "extraordinary funding that's being proposed here hundreds of millions of over many years is to get new and", "start": 5539.6, "end": 5547.52}, {"text": "additional rental housing so why are we allowing developers to count towards", "start": 5547.52, "end": 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speaker um I just want to uh tease out a little bit more", "start": 6138.84, "end": 6144.92}, {"text": "some of the issues that councilor saaks was Raising and make sure Council actually has a a full and proper", "start": 6144.92, "end": 6150.88}, {"text": "understanding um first uh it is not and never has been the practice of the city", "start": 6150.88, "end": 6156.8}, {"text": "of Toronto to give additional height in exchange for a section 37 agreement", "start": 6156.8, "end": 6162.199}, {"text": "that's that was actually forbidden in the planning act am I right about that", "start": 6162.199, "end": 6167.44}, {"text": "yeah through the speaker we always need to be satisfied that there's good planning and where we secure Community", "start": 6167.44, "end": 6172.8}, {"text": "benefits that's a result of whatever applicable legislation applies so characterizing it as we've already given", "start": 6172.8, "end": 6178.96}, {"text": "away something of value and exchange that's not a 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ourselves and still be able to invest in the infrastructure necessary uh to grow along with the", "start": 6359.719, "end": 6366.92}, {"text": "housing so would it be fair to characterize this first phase as us proving to other governments that this", "start": 6366.92, "end": 6373.08}, {"text": "can work and that there is interest and there is a public policy benefit but if we want to do it at scale we're going to", "start": 6373.08, "end": 6380.36}, {"text": "need the federal and provincial governments to come come in and assist is that roughly what happens here um", "start": 6380.36, "end": 6386.679}, {"text": "through the speaker yes that is what we're proposing to do to prove the idea works in the phase one and then to", "start": 6386.679, "end": 6393.159}, {"text": "invite the other levels of the government to join us in phase two um and this very much mirrors the way much", "start": 6393.159, "end": 6398.96}, {"text": "of our housing to actions are characterized in the sense that the city can lead and we can do a lot but we do", "start": 6398.96, "end": 6405.44}, {"text": "ultimately need the other levels of government to substantially support us beyond what they've been able to do to", "start": 6405.44, "end": 6410.96}, {"text": "date so this is just another case like say uh the Mira program or something", "start": 6410.96, "end": 6416.04}, {"text": "where the city of Toronto actually solves the problem shows other governments how to do it and then the program we hope expands um TR the city", "start": 6416.04, "end": 6423.92}, {"text": "if we want a made in Toronto solution which I think we do and we want it to fit our community and our goals and it's", "start": 6423.92, "end": 6429.8}, {"text": "important that we show the way to do um and how to be successful um and then", "start": 6429.8, "end": 6434.84}, {"text": "bring the other levels of government with us thank you thank you", "start": 6434.84, "end": 6441.039}, {"text": "councelor Chen questions thank you madam speaker um I'm", "start": 6447.48, "end": 6452.639}, {"text": "just wondering in consultation with developers are there already some that are queed up that are ready to go as", "start": 6452.639, "end": 6459.4}, {"text": "soon as we launched this um through the speaker through the consultation it became clear that there were a number of", "start": 6459.4, "end": 6466.48}, {"text": "projects that had kind of stalled um due to the changes in the economic system um", "start": 6466.48, "end": 6471.88}, {"text": "and that potentially would respond if we were able to offer additional incentive um and through the supplementary report", "start": 6471.88, "end": 6478.08}, {"text": "we're trying to offer ideas for how we might consider those or how we might uh bring them forward uh not just on a", "start": 6478.08, "end": 6484.56}, {"text": "first come first serve basis but really prioritizing those that can be in the ground quickly so that there will be a", "start": 6484.56, "end": 6490.639}, {"text": "prioritization of who can get shovels in the ground the quickest uh through the speaker yes that's what we're proposing", "start": 6490.639, "end": 6496.52}, {"text": "to do and that's because of some of the interest that we we've heard from um development Community about how many", "start": 6496.52, "end": 6502.4}, {"text": "units that they may have that could fit this kind of incentive program according", "start": 6502.4, "end": 6507.88}, {"text": "to the Toronto Star there is a prediction that 2025 will'll see a Toronto housing boom resulting in the", "start": 6507.88, "end": 6515.199}, {"text": "most expensive Market in Canada how would that uh change in market", "start": 6515.199, "end": 6520.44}, {"text": "conditions impact this program um through the speaker so", "start": 6520.44, "end": 6525.639}, {"text": "obviously this is a limited program both in terms of um the first phase and also the second phase so we have an", "start": 6525.639, "end": 6531.8}, {"text": "opportunity to to uh continually look and check to see what is happening in the market conditions we will also get", "start": 6531.8, "end": 6538.48}, {"text": "really good information as part of this program people will provide us with financial information about their", "start": 6538.48, "end": 6544.36}, {"text": "project and we will be check using a third party to check that that is still in line with industry Norms as those", "start": 6544.36, "end": 6550.96}, {"text": "Norms change if necessary we will bring back changes to the program or our next steps to council so right now it's a", "start": 6550.96, "end": 6558.76}, {"text": "difficult time for a lot of developers projects are stalled do you think this set of incentives still works for that", "start": 6558.76, "end": 6567.639}, {"text": "economic environment to shift so in a boom time would something like what", "start": 6567.639, "end": 6573.92}, {"text": "we've put together in this package still be appealing to 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material impacts on our ability to be able to support the required", "start": 6665.52, "end": 6670.88}, {"text": "infrastructure needed in those communities this represents the upset limit of the amount of foregone Revenue", "start": 6670.88, "end": 6676.84}, {"text": "we can support uh in support of uh of Housing Development so as you know right", "start": 6676.84, "end": 6683.48}, {"text": "now uh the city is you are all working on a a proposal for how Community", "start": 6683.48, "end": 6689.84}, {"text": "benefits is going to be allocated and similarly there's this tug and pull", "start": 6689.84, "end": 6695.48}, {"text": "between being able to afford Community amenities versus investment in affordable housing both are very", "start": 6695.48, "end": 6702.52}, {"text": "important but when there's no resources and when the provincial government is", "start": 6702.52, "end": 6708.199}, {"text": "severely limiting our ability to achieve those goals that we want for complete 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able to deliver affordable housing and okay thank", "start": 7052.8, "end": 7058.44}, {"text": "you thank you thank", "start": 7058.44, "end": 7062.719}, {"text": "you councelor anley questions uh thank you madam speaker to staff I", "start": 7068.92, "end": 7075}, {"text": "just wanted to ask uh at executive committee asked about um a reporting back mechanism on the progress of this", "start": 7075, "end": 7081.599}, {"text": "program and I think I was told it could be done annually is it possible to have it done", "start": 7081.599, "end": 7087.8}, {"text": "semiannually um through the speaker yeah we took that question away and we now intend to do it quarterly on the housing", "start": 7087.8, "end": 7094.36}, {"text": "Hub uh website that we have so oh even better okay thank you very much thank", "start": 7094.36, "end": 7100.599}, {"text": "you madam speaker thank you", "start": 7100.599, "end": 7104.119}, {"text": "councelor chanti questions yes thank you uh speaker so uh", "start": 7111.32, "end": 7117.48}, {"text": "just to uh clarify this in a couple of things so the proposal is to provide a 15% property tax reduction for 35 years", "start": 7117.48, "end": 7125.84}, {"text": "and uh uh indefinite deferral of development charges you clarify that please um", "start": 7125.84, "end": 7133.239}, {"text": "through the speaker so the uh indefinite deferral of development charges is what", "start": 7133.239, "end": 7138.36}, {"text": "relates to the 7,000 number so there will be a limited number of units that we will be deferring development charges", "start": 7138.36, "end": 7144.679}, {"text": "for in the first phase the 15% property tax reduction is available to all uh", "start": 7144.679, "end": 7150.04}, {"text": "multi-residential purpose built rental units it's a new tax class so thank you so if somebody builds", "start": 7150.04, "end": 7156.239}, {"text": "a multi-residential purpose built U say 200 units uh there the they to also", "start": 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{"text": "impact on assessment growth going forward uh in terms of the amount of assessment I believe it was estimated at", "start": 7659.159, "end": 7664.44}, {"text": "about a million a year or so incrementally uh if there was a larger uptake so hang on a second um foregone", "start": 7664.44, "end": 7672.119}, {"text": "Revenue doesn't mean free Revenue so somebody's got to pay for all this development or we or we and I mean", "start": 7672.119, "end": 7678.119}, {"text": "infrastructure development or we don't do it so there is a cost", "start": 7678.119, "end": 7683.76}, {"text": "here uh through the speaker yeah yes so these are funds that are available to be", "start": 7683.76, "end": 7689.159}, {"text": "able to support Capital infrastructure the lens we've taken as part of this work is determining to what extent based", "start": 7689.159, "end": 7696.04}, {"text": "on the amount we have in our reserves the commitments we have going forward and the amount of Revenue we estimate 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correct so through", "start": 8359.24, "end": 8366.08}, {"text": "the speaker it would be all of those units are requiring that intergovernmental work majority of the intergovermental funding on phase two", "start": 8366.08, "end": 8372.76}, {"text": "would be in the form of financing not uh direct grants so the province ponied up a billion dollars last year question", "start": 8372.76, "end": 8379.16}, {"text": "last question got it thank you um The Province ponied up a billion dollars last year uh to establish the build more", "start": 8379.16, "end": 8385.12}, {"text": "homes rebate um since the turn be began we've received over a billion dollars uh", "start": 8385.12, "end": 8390.16}, {"text": "from the Province so would it be unusual for the the provincial government to come forward with another billion", "start": 8390.16, "end": 8395.96}, {"text": "dollars to fund Phase 2 here as we've asked for so through the speaker uh", "start": 8395.96, "end": 8401.6}, {"text": "given that all three levels of government have housing as a priority I don't think it's over the realm of possibility to continue those", "start": 8401.6, "end": 8408.12}, {"text": "conversations thank you okay I see that's the last of the", "start": 8408.12, "end": 8415.24}, {"text": "questions so we'll go to speakers", "start": 8415.24, "end": 8421}, {"text": "counselor scks counselor", "start": 8426.04, "end": 8431.398}, {"text": "saxs counselor", "start": 8436.16, "end": 8439.76}, {"text": "sacks Mary you wanted to speak last so I'll put your name on at the end because I don't have anybody else here if", "start": 8445.72, "end": 8452.8}, {"text": "anybody wants to speak can you please put your name on the list or forever", "start": 8452.8, "end": 8458.68}, {"text": "don't say a word okay councelor Saks to speak uh yes", "start": 8458.68, "end": 8467.68}, {"text": "thank you madam speaker uh I do want to thank the staff and I am going to be supporting this item um I am concerned", "start": 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operating costs", "start": 8511.479, "end": 8518.04}, {"text": "and helps keep the buildings more comfortable to live in and keep rent down over time um other than that I", "start": 8518.04, "end": 8524.76}, {"text": "support the item and I encourage my colleagues to do so thank you", "start": 8524.76, "end": 8530.681}, {"text": "Deputy Mayor Malik to speak very much um I'll be brief um", "start": 8544.96, "end": 8551.56}, {"text": "every single day we see and we hear the devastating impacts of the crisis in our communities as rent continues to", "start": 8551.56, "end": 8558.319}, {"text": "increase it is affordable housing options are increasingly more and more scarce and that's why in addition to the", "start": 8558.319, "end": 8565.28}, {"text": "hard work and important steps that we've taken as a council we have to continue to push forward", "start": 8565.28, "end": 8571.04}, {"text": "look at every single option that we have and construct truly affordable housing in Toronto for the long hul and pro by", "start": 8571.04, "end": 8578.76}, {"text": "providing affordable rental options we can help alleviate the financial burden", "start": 8578.76, "end": 8583.88}, {"text": "on residents and ensure everyone has a safe and secure place to live and most of all that they can imagine a future in", "start": 8583.88, "end": 8590.96}, {"text": "Toronto and that's why the rental homes incentive streams offer such a significant step forward in addressing", "start": 8590.96, "end": 8598.24}, {"text": "this urgent need especially as we understand the impact that market conditions have had on this really", "start": 8598.24, "end": 8604.8}, {"text": "important aspect of housing in our city and to truly make a difference we have", "start": 8604.8, "end": 8609.88}, {"text": "to keep working collaboratively with our provincial and federal partners for them to be stepping up to their", "start": 8609.88, "end": 8615.68}, {"text": "responsibilities as we have continued to work hard to step up to ours we need that increased funding streamlined", "start": 8615.68, "end": 8622.12}, {"text": "approvals and supportive policies to accelerate housing developments and we", "start": 8622.12, "end": 8627.2}, {"text": "know that we cannot keep falling further behind mind as a city as a province and", "start": 8627.2, "end": 8632.8}, {"text": "as a country and by working together and leveraging all the available resources tools and levers that we have we can", "start": 8632.8, "end": 8639.96}, {"text": "make that tangible difference and I do want to express my gratitude uh to Mayor Chow um for the leadership of my", "start": 8639.96, "end": 8646.439}, {"text": "colleagues on this item and the commitment to addressing Toronto's housing crisis and for us to continue to", "start": 8646.439, "end": 8651.96}, {"text": "seize these opportunities to build more Equitable and affordable housing in Toronto for the Long Haul thank you very", "start": 8651.96, "end": 8658.64}, {"text": "much thank you", "start": 8658.64, "end": 8662.358}, {"text": "councelor Cole to speak gra thank you uh I just wanted to", "start": 8667.12, "end": 8673.279}, {"text": "say that uh you know there was this false belief out there that everybody", "start": 8673.279, "end": 8679.68}, {"text": "bought into media bought into it everybody just build build build the", "start": 8679.68, "end": 8685.479}, {"text": "housing uh Supply the housing and uh we'll solve the problem well it didn't", "start": 8685.479, "end": 8691.6}, {"text": "work you know because the other side there's a law called supply and", "start": 8691.6, "end": 8696.96}, {"text": "demand so you you can supply and deal with the supply which we did and uh everybody", "start": 8696.96, "end": 8704.92}, {"text": "else concentrated they didn't think about the demand the demand is because we've got so many people moving to", "start": 8704.92, "end": 8713.08}, {"text": "Toronto newcomers uh young families uh they want and need a", "start": 8713.08, "end": 8720.72}, {"text": "reasonable place to live the numbers have gone through the roof and they couldn't find anything but", "start": 8720.72, "end": 8727.08}, {"text": "he said no no we'll Supply and we build all this housing all these condos everywhere don't worry the price will", "start": 8727.08, "end": 8733.439}, {"text": "come down everybody will have a place didn't work so the supply side Milton", "start": 8733.439, "end": 8738.8}, {"text": "fredman trickle down economics was a total failure when it comes to", "start": 8738.8, "end": 8745.399}, {"text": "housing did not work so", "start": 8745.399, "end": 8751.08}, {"text": "our city is now trying to basically do something about this failure of supply", "start": 8751.08, "end": 8759.08}, {"text": "side economics we're trying to step in and fill the Gap and the and we're really", "start": 8759.08, "end": 8766.479}, {"text": "punching way above our weight because generally speaking the cities shouldn't be in the housing", "start": 8766.479, "end": 8774.08}, {"text": "business this should be the federal and provincial government's job because they", "start": 8774.08, "end": 8779.92}, {"text": "have access to the GST HST income tax corporate that they have billions at", "start": 8779.92, "end": 8786.2}, {"text": "their disposal and here we are we're asking our property tax", "start": 8786.2, "end": 8792.8}, {"text": "payers to put their money up to build housing how in congruous is that but", "start": 8792.8, "end": 8800.359}, {"text": "that's but we've had to do it we don't have a choice because the other two", "start": 8800.359, "end": 8805.6}, {"text": "people with all the money find that they could spend money", "start": 8805.6, "end": 8810.76}, {"text": "billions nobody ever questions them oh we're going to spend $50 billion and build a tunnel underneath the 401 oh", "start": 8810.76, "end": 8817.88}, {"text": "yeah go ahead do it we're going to spend 44 billion on building car", "start": 8817.88, "end": 8824.6}, {"text": "batteries somewhere in Woodstock on 44 billion nobody questions that you've got", "start": 8824.6, "end": 8830.2}, {"text": "44 billion for car batteries you've got $50 billion for a tunnel under the", "start": 8830.2, "end": 8836.319}, {"text": "401 and you have no money for housing and nobody questions", "start": 8836.319, "end": 8844.08}, {"text": "it unscathed as they spend these billions it's not to say we shouldn't", "start": 8844.12, "end": 8850.12}, {"text": "spend some billions for oh yeah and the other favorite billion dollar", "start": 8850.12, "end": 8855.16}, {"text": "boondoggle is the uh 413 billions gonna a highway through the", "start": 8855.16, "end": 8861.279}, {"text": "best Farmland in Canada yeah go ahead how many billions is that going to cost oh they they can't tell", "start": 8861.279, "end": 8867.16}, {"text": "you so we've had to step up and do this this is a a great strong step by the city to try", "start": 8867.16, "end": 8875.08}, {"text": "and fill this huge gap and just remembering we as a city asked them for", "start": 8875.08, "end": 8881.68}, {"text": "inclusionary zoning they said no you can't include", "start": 8881.68, "end": 8887.359}, {"text": "affordable housing in new developments they said no can you imagine if we had a", "start": 8887.359, "end": 8892.68}, {"text": "little bit of inclusionary housing in all those condo warehouses we would have had a little", "start": 8892.68, "end": 8899.16}, {"text": "bit of housing for people but they said no The Province said you can't include affordable housing in the condo", "start": 8899.16, "end": 8905.279}, {"text": "warehouses across the city then you had uh I mentioned before", "start": 8905.279, "end": 8910.84}, {"text": "Bill uh 23 Bill 185 basically took away infrastructure", "start": 8910.84, "end": 8916.64}, {"text": "money and they said you can't use development charges on affordable", "start": 8916.64, "end": 8924.359}, {"text": "housing and the public was silent nobody said to the province hey why are you", "start": 8924.359, "end": 8930.479}, {"text": "doing this no they got away with it so we're working across purposes but", "start": 8930.479, "end": 8937.359}, {"text": "at least we don't sit on our hands and do nothing we're trying our best our", "start": 8937.359, "end": 8942.84}, {"text": "staff is trying to scramble to find some money to Kickstart some uh purpose build", "start": 8942.84, "end": 8949.16}, {"text": "rental that's affordable and I think we should continue to work with the private sector Builders because they can be a", "start": 8949.16, "end": 8956.359}, {"text": "voice for us when we go to the province and beg for some money to build a aable housing so this is a great initiative", "start": 8956.359, "end": 8963.72}, {"text": "keep punching above your weight we have no other choice thank", "start": 8963.72, "end": 8970.76}, {"text": "you councelor holiday to speak uh thank you speaker you know speaker I don't", "start": 8975.2, "end": 8981.08}, {"text": "know who times these reports that come out so the story behind this of course", "start": 8981.08, "end": 8986.439}, {"text": "is an inducement to developers to come in and build purpose-built rental and it's an it's an economic inducement in", "start": 8986.439, "end": 8993.92}, {"text": "the very same council meeting we've got another report to put on more", "start": 8993.92, "end": 8999.64}, {"text": "regulations on landlords uh to deal with rent evictions", "start": 8999.64, "end": 9005.04}, {"text": "and why you know why why do I chuckle because it matters so rents are set and development", "start": 9005.04, "end": 9011.84}, {"text": "decisions are Set uh with a constellation of factors interest rates", "start": 9011.84, "end": 9018.04}, {"text": "uh the cost of construction the the the situation with the market the economic", "start": 9018.04, "end": 9024.399}, {"text": "Outlook uh and of course risk regulate related to regulation regulatory", "start": 9024.399, "end": 9031.479}, {"text": "risk and so we're doing two opposite things in the same council meeting but", "start": 9031.479, "end": 9037.16}, {"text": "back to the subject matter at hand uh if you look in the census statistics you'll find that uh renters and owners in the", "start": 9037.16, "end": 9044.12}, {"text": "city is about evenly split it's uh 52% to 48% uh a little over half a million", "start": 9044.12, "end": 9051.399}, {"text": "homes on either side of the equation but what city council here and", "start": 9051.399, "end": 9056.96}, {"text": "I will say is feebly trying to do is bend the curve with respect to the cost", "start": 9056.96, "end": 9062.68}, {"text": "of renting in this city they're doing nothing for the owners the other half of the city in fact what they're doing is", "start": 9062.68, "end": 9069.24}, {"text": "shuffling costs onto those owners to make life even more expensive so I went", 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quite as steep it's a little steeper towards this end", "start": 9116.84, "end": 9122.6}, {"text": "of it uh but it's not the same Trend as that um so to think that by putting", "start": 9122.6, "end": 9128.92}, {"text": "5,000 units uh or 7,000 units we're suddenly going to bend the curve on a", "start": 9128.92, "end": 9134.72}, {"text": "city uh with with two over two sorry over 1 million uh home homes half of", "start": 9134.72, "end": 9140.96}, {"text": "which are rental I just think is far-fetched and people use this word crisis I wish I could do a word search", "start": 9140.96, "end": 9147.88}, {"text": "on the council agenda the whole thing and figure out how many times crisis was used because this is is used twice in", "start": 9147.88, "end": 9153.68}, {"text": "this report actually I'd love to know what the definition is you know following the natural curve is a", "start": 9153.68, "end": 9159.68}, {"text": "crisis uh boy we got a lot of things to worry about in this city I I don't pretend that it's not easy to live here", "start": 9159.68, "end": 9166.08}, {"text": "and costly to live here but Council has so many levers that it it can control to", "start": 9166.08, "end": 9172.279}, {"text": "make life affordable in this city ask the question we're going to put uh 450", "start": 9172.279, "end": 9177.8}, {"text": "million dollar worth of resources into this particular phase one initiative", "start": 9177.8, "end": 9183.04}, {"text": "there's absolutely no guarantee that landlords are going to reduce the rents except for of course the the Socialist", "start": 9183.04, "end": 9189.8}, {"text": "component or the subsidy component of this where we a portion of them will be", "start": 9189.8, "end": 9194.96}, {"text": "reduced under an agreement but the other renters the market renters", "start": 9194.96, "end": 9200.84}, {"text": "what are they going to see is that curve suddenly going to bend in their favor you can look at the stats about what it", "start": 9200.84, "end": 9207.24}, {"text": "says about rent year over-year but you have to know that the trend is going to continue and yet this council is doing", "start": 9207.24, "end": 9214.2}, {"text": "things like putting on other layers of Regulation and rent controls and all", "start": 9214.2, "end": 9219.6}, {"text": "sorts of things that it's advocating for that actually have a deeper meaning on the price that people pay to live in", "start": 9219.6, "end": 9226.56}, {"text": "this city the one final thing I would say is it goes beyond just the economics and the things that we're attempting to", "start": 9226.56, "end": 9233.04}, {"text": "do in this consider the price of congestion consider the price of not", "start": 9233.04, "end": 9238.479}, {"text": "being able to move about within the region and that in itself in some economic models speaks to the cost of", "start": 9238.479, "end": 9247.359}, {"text": "either ownership or renting in the city because people want to be closer to the points of interest that they have and so", "start": 9247.359, "end": 9253.68}, {"text": "there's a premium for that type of inability to move we should be looking at other things in the city and the the", "start": 9253.68, "end": 9259.88}, {"text": "economic development report uh in this Council agenda gives us a few hints about that because the businesses are", "start": 9259.88, "end": 9265.84}, {"text": "saying similar things to what homeowners and home renters and residents of this", "start": 9265.84, "end": 9271.2}, {"text": "city understand is the macroeconomics involved so I'm not supporting this Madam speaker this is a lot of money uh", "start": 9271.2, "end": 9278.76}, {"text": "that goes to the development community and very little guarantees thank you councelor", "start": 9278.76, "end": 9284.681}, {"text": "holid councelor Fletcher you uh with like to uh do an introduction at this", "start": 9286.88, "end": 9292.2}, {"text": "time yes uh just one sec there you", "start": 9292.2, "end": 9298.16}, {"text": "go welcome to city council [Applause]", "start": 9308.6, "end": 9317.6}, {"text": "chambers welcome would you like to speak on the item no on this item you got your name", "start": 9317.6, "end": 9324.359}, {"text": "up there yes do you want to speak okay yes uh just before I speak I'll say it's", "start": 9324.359, "end": 9330.64}, {"text": "very exciting to have this new school the vmon school board French uh School", "start": 9330.64, "end": 9336}, {"text": "Board the public board and named after the Supreme Court Justice Michelle", "start": 9336, "end": 9341.479}, {"text": "lansan so I know they're very proud of that and very proud to have helped them and that they're here today uh I just", "start": 9341.479, "end": 9346.88}, {"text": "want to say uh to this I just want to to thank the mayor uh and all the staff for", "start": 9346.88, "end": 9355.12}, {"text": "being so creative as she always says things are stuck so how do we get them", "start": 9355.12, "end": 9360.399}, {"text": "moving here in the city of Toronto when we had a lot of our programs they were", "start": 9360.399, "end": 9365.64}, {"text": "condos and people building condos add some affordable even housing now was", "start": 9365.64, "end": 9371.2}, {"text": "condo rental rental and now we're finding something in the market where condos are not being built there is a", "start": 9371.2, "end": 9378.279}, {"text": "real move to a rental housing which we've not had for years and years and years in this city and in this country", "start": 9378.279, "end": 9385.76}, {"text": "and this program that we're going to adopt today I believe we will and I hope we will is really instrumental in taking", "start": 9385.76, "end": 9394.52}, {"text": "the rental market and adding the affordability factor into the rental", "start": 9394.52, "end": 9400.2}, {"text": "this is something that should and could be very easily done once there's incentives for developers who will", 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closely to assist any of the nonprofits that they have the critical expertise and", "start": 9450.92, "end": 9458.6}, {"text": "sophistication to make this happen and then if there's developers that come along and say well 20% I'm going to put", "start": 9458.6, "end": 9465.96}, {"text": "an extra couple of percent in there I'd like to get to 25 how will those be viewed I think they", "start": 9465.96, "end": 9472.12}, {"text": "need to be viewed as yes that's who we want you have the expertise you've got", "start": 9472.12, "end": 9477.52}, {"text": "the drive you want to add more and we want to accommodate that and then as", "start": 9477.52, "end": 9483.2}, {"text": "well the length of term it's 40 to 999 years but I'm going to assume that if", "start": 9483.2, "end": 9488.76}, {"text": "somebody's coming in in much greater than 40 years that those applications", "start": 9488.76, "end": 9494.96}, {"text": "will be looked upon in a little different way than if you're 40 years 20% and can't really show that you have", "start": 9494.96, "end": 9503.08}, {"text": "the really strong ability to do that and I know Miss Bond answered my question", "start": 9503.08, "end": 9509}, {"text": "and said well we have a stream in order to help nonprofits be able to get all of", "start": 9509, "end": 9514.64}, {"text": "their soft cost done and I know that that was my motion to make that happen because later next week we're going to", "start": 9514.64, "end": 9520.76}, {"text": "be opening Riverdale Co-op and that's how they got their soft cost was through Section 37 and we noticed that that", "start": 9520.76, "end": 9527.68}, {"text": "becomes a stumbling block but the stumbling block also is your ability to", "start": 9527.68, "end": 9532.88}, {"text": "get it in the ground and I want to emphasize that from the point of view of", "start": 9532.88, "end": 9538.92}, {"text": "if we're take Going the Distance here if we're saying these are critical things to do then those 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time they're ready to build there's I forget how many", "start": 9585.479, "end": 9592.64}, {"text": "units lots and lots of units at keyside that are deemed to be affordable so that", "start": 9592.64, "end": 9600.08}, {"text": "I think can be part of this stream and the Waterfront is a place where we've said 20% these will be 20% on the water", "start": 9600.08, "end": 9609.68}, {"text": "I much of the 20% on the waterfront is in West on lands they're not on the", "start": 9609.68, "end": 9614.88}, {"text": "water I think really and truly our goal is to make sure that on our Waterfront", "start": 9614.88, "end": 9621.279}, {"text": "where you can see the water and be part of the life of this Waterfront it's very mixed it's very diverse there's", "start": 9621.279, "end": 9628.08}, {"text": "affordable housing we have 20% at keyside maybe more we have 30% at at the", "start": 9628.08, "end": 9634.68}, {"text": "new oqu and menis Singh and to me that's a really critical thing I've harped on", "start": 9634.68, "end": 9640.319}, {"text": "this for years let's stop keeping people of low income from walking out the door", "start": 9640.319, "end": 9647.68}, {"text": "and looking at the water that needs to be one of our goals thank you thank you", "start": 9647.68, "end": 9653.12}, {"text": "okay well okay counselor Bradford to", "start": 9653.12, "end": 9660.88}, {"text": "speak thanks Madam speaker um back in June I called for an incentive scheme", "start": 9660.88, "end": 9666.76}, {"text": "that would help get shovels in the ground on purpose-built rental I think everyone in this chamber agrees that", "start": 9666.76, "end": 9672.96}, {"text": "that's that's important something that we haven't seen historically in Toronto for a long time for a variety of reasons", "start": 9672.96, "end": 9678.359}, {"text": "and there was a decision to help incentivize and move those projects forward make them financially viable and", "start": 9678.359, "end": 9685.6}, {"text": "get the the shovels off the sidelines and into the ground stakeholder consultation with the people who", "start": 9685.6, "end": 9691.8}, {"text": "actually build housing was a really important part of that motion Direction and that technical consultation took", "start": 9691.8, "end": 9698.319}, {"text": "place I was in some of those meetings uh Builders from across the city came in and advised our CFO worked with the", "start": 9698.319, "end": 9704.68}, {"text": "housing Secretariat they opened their books they brought in the performers they walked people people through IR all", "start": 9704.68, "end": 9710.72}, {"text": "of the financial metrics that actually make these projects viable or not viable", "start": 9710.72, "end": 9716.92}, {"text": "and unfortunately what's in front of us today shows such a lack of alignment", "start": 9716.92, "end": 9723.04}, {"text": "with that feedback that was provided I'm concerned that this is not going to be the big move that the 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committee I'm going to give you a quote here from rescon for", "start": 9768.24, "end": 9773.359}, {"text": "those of you who who don't know rescon that's the association of builders that build most of the homes in Toronto and", "start": 9773.359, "end": 9779.04}, {"text": "the GTA and it says quote conditions including the 40 to 99e Target component", "start": 9779.04, "end": 9784.479}, {"text": "and particularly the minimum 20% affordable component likely negates any", "start": 9784.479, "end": 9789.56}, {"text": "reasonable Prospect of a development being financially feasible under this program it's not just rescon uh the", "start": 9789.56, "end": 9796.479}, {"text": "folks at build the building industry and Land Development Toronto here say quote the specifications of the proposed", "start": 9796.479, "end": 9802.479}, {"text": "Solutions are so tightly defined that they would only be applicable to the city's own housing now projects or", "start": 9802.479, "end": 9809.479}, {"text": "projects that have received a federal subsidy through the apartment construction loan program that was the point that I was making in my questions", "start": 9809.479, "end": 9816.04}, {"text": "to Mr coni and others uh about the need to stack other programs particularly the", "start": 9816.04, "end": 9821.64}, {"text": "apartment construction financing program from the feds which is already over subscribed and already at capacity", "start": 9821.64, "end": 9827.12}, {"text": "there's a lot of demand for it but the demand exceeds the size and scale of the program so here's the catch phase two is", "start": 9827.12, "end": 9834.84}, {"text": "actually where we want to go that is where I think there is more promise uh and and widespread applicability in this", "start": 9834.84, "end": 9841.68}, {"text": "program but phase two requires 7.3 billion from the federal government and", "start": 9841.68, "end": 9848.359}, {"text": "another billion dollars from The Province and 225 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{"text": "financially um expensive to do so none of these projects are going forward and you just have to look at the data that", "start": 9893.8, "end": 9899.76}, {"text": "will tell you last year in August versus this year in August housing starts are", "start": 9899.76, "end": 9904.8}, {"text": "down 75% if you look at the data from September 23 to September 24 housing", "start": 9904.8, "end": 9911.12}, {"text": "starts are down 81% so I would suggest all of us here in this chamber it's time to ring the alarms on that because the", "start": 9911.12, "end": 9917.64}, {"text": "lack of starts in in terms of housing is going to make our supply extremely more", "start": 9917.64, "end": 9922.68}, {"text": "constrainted going forward and as a result less affordable more expensive I", "start": 9922.68, "end": 9927.76}, {"text": "want to see more housing I want to see more affordable housing but if folks forget we actually had a report on", "start": 9927.76, "end": 9933.88}, {"text": 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{"text": "list counselor Carol release", "start": 17160.798, "end": 17166.28}, {"text": "supports uh yes Madam speaker I'm scrolling frantically to get to the number of NY something something 1800", "start": 17166.28, "end": 17174.44}, {"text": "Shepard Avenue sorry that's where I'm going maybe clerks can help me there it", "start": 17174.44, "end": 17182.32}, {"text": "is there it is sorry it is NY1 18.13 1800 Shepard Avenue East which is", "start": 17182.32, "end": 17190.04}, {"text": "the most important Nexus of the 401 the DVP and the uh uh the uh uh 404 and and", "start": 17190.04, "end": 17198.16}, {"text": "uh uh a Transit Hub uh can release that uh development item okay on NY1", "start": 17198.16, "end": 17207.798}, {"text": "18.13", "start": 17207.798, "end": 17210.798}, {"text": "coun oh sorry sorry that there there is a a motion I'm not moving the staff recommendations there I've I've", "start": 17213.92, "end": 17220.28}, {"text": "circulated a motion to go with it sorry I 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other members of those households who are not on our list um in", "start": 18071.84, "end": 18078.48}, {"text": "order to give them a ballot as well okay then that's the answer then so the owner will get the ballot um and if that", "start": 18078.48, "end": 18086}, {"text": "household has individuals that are of age to uh uh participate they would", "start": 18086, "end": 18092.84}, {"text": "first have to register through the an online system some sort they go online", "start": 18092.84, "end": 18097.878}, {"text": "and gu provide ID or or something to satisfy us that they're of age in other", "start": 18097.878, "end": 18103.84}, {"text": "words 16 or 17 and up yes in order to be added to the list they they need to go through an", "start": 18103.84, "end": 18109.44}, {"text": "affidavit process to get added so we would have to verify that that information with those individuals okay", "start": 18109.44, "end": 18115.76}, {"text": "so there's no room for we're not going to accept information or pulling information back from someone that", "start": 18115.76, "end": 18122.16}, {"text": "hasn't been identified as eligible to vote no uh Madam speaker if there is a", "start": 18122.16, "end": 18128.68}, {"text": "ballot issued it's because we verified that that person is eligible to receive that ballot all right thank you so that", "start": 18128.68, "end": 18135.4}, {"text": "makes sense thank", "start": 18135.4, "end": 18138.4}, {"text": "you councelor Thompson thank you very much uh speaker through you to staff can you", "start": 18141.558, "end": 18148.798}, {"text": "explain uh electoral comp compeny formes the competency for 16 and 17 year olds", "start": 18148.798, "end": 18157.878}, {"text": "can you define what that means elector", "start": 18157.878, "end": 18161.798}, {"text": "compens I'm sorry M speaker we're not we're not clear on what the member is asking I'm asking if you could explain", "start": 18166.44, "end": 18174.36}, {"text": "to me please the competence level of a 16 year old and 17 year old I understand that there's a definition I'm wondering", "start": 18174.36, "end": 18181.6}, {"text": "if you could explain what that definition is uh mam speaker I'm afraid uh I I", "start": 18181.6, "end": 18189.84}, {"text": "don't have an answer to that question it's something we could look into I'll move I'll move to a second one there are", "start": 18189.84, "end": 18195.32}, {"text": "varying countries around the world that currently allow 16 and 17 year olds to vote what is the process that are are", "start": 18195.32, "end": 18202.878}, {"text": "being utilized in those countries such as Austria Belgium and Germany and", "start": 18202.878, "end": 18207.92}, {"text": "others well Madam speaker again I'm not uh we're not prepared to answer that question because we did not expect to be", "start": 18207.92, "end": 18214.28}, {"text": "talking about voting in elections this motion is this motion is related only to polls which is a a construct or a device", "start": 18214.28, "end": 18221.92}, {"text": "of the city so we haven't undertaken any research yet into uh voting for um in an", "start": 18221.92, "end": 18228.08}, {"text": "election context because that's outside of the city's control okay um all right so we're just", "start": 18228.08, "end": 18235.24}, {"text": "focusing on polling at this particular point in time M speaker yes that's the focus of the motion before us and have", "start": 18235.24, "end": 18242.36}, {"text": "we looked with respect to involvement of our um educational institutions in terms", "start": 18242.36, "end": 18247.76}, {"text": "of how they could help us with respect to calling as part of that process um M speaker again I I don't", "start": 18247.76, "end": 18254.92}, {"text": "want to appear evasive or repetitive but these are issues we would definitely look at in in the course of a report if", "start": 18254.92, "end": 18261.48}, {"text": "requested by Council to conduct this report but fair enough so the objective here is to get uh council's permission", "start": 18261.48, "end": 18269.36}, {"text": "in agreement in order to allow staff to go ahead and do this work in order to come back at a later date speaker yes", "start": 18269.36, "end": 18275.24}, {"text": "that's correct we have not commenced the work yet we're waiting for Council to dispose of this motion", "start": 18275.24, "end": 18280.798}, {"text": "fair enough thank you that's that's very helpful speaker those are my questions thank", "start": 18280.798, "end": 18286.68}, {"text": "you okay we'll go to speakers if anybody wants to", "start": 18287.16, "end": 18293.202}, {"text": "talk councelor saaks thank you um I'm rising to ask my", "start": 18295.48, "end": 18304.28}, {"text": "colleagues to support this motion uh I we know how important the", "start": 18304.28, "end": 18310.12}, {"text": "young people of this city are and how many difficulties they're facing as a champion for youth I'm", "start": 18310.12, "end": 18316.718}, {"text": "constantly looking for opportunities to make life in this city better and more", "start": 18316.718, "end": 18322.16}, {"text": "engaging for young people that's why we now have free trips for high schools on", "start": 18322.16, "end": 18327.798}, {"text": "the TTC that I brought to the TTC it's why I work so hard on climate action", "start": 18327.798, "end": 18333.44}, {"text": "including bike lanes because we know that the climate crisis is going to dominate the life of young people for", "start": 18333.44, "end": 18339.16}, {"text": "the rest of their lives and we also know how important it is to encourage and", "start": 18339.16, "end": 18344.558}, {"text": "facilitate participation by young people in the life of the city now you can see", "start": 18344.558, "end": 18350.68}, {"text": "from the details in this motion uh elections candidate has done research other countries have done research many", "start": 18350.68, "end": 18357.52}, {"text": "other cities across Canada have looked at this there is a strong interest by 16", "start": 18357.52, "end": 18363.32}, {"text": "and 17 year olds in participating in the public debate and they are more likely", "start": 18363.32, "end": 18370}, {"text": "to participate and to vote later in life if they start when they are 16 17 we", "start": 18370, "end": 18375.878}, {"text": "don't determine what happens at the provincial level or even in our own Municipal elections because that's", "start": 18375.878, "end": 18382.36}, {"text": "controlled by the province as Doug Ford drove home when he tore up our election rules in the middle of the 2018 election", "start": 18382.36, "end": 18389.6}, {"text": "but we do control how we consult we already allow 60 and 7 year", "start": 18389.6, "end": 18395.6}, {"text": "olds to to consult in a number of different proceses it wouldn't be a step", "start": 18395.6, "end": 18400.958}, {"text": "change to also allow them participate in neighborhood polls but it would be very significant", "start": 18400.958, "end": 18407.36}, {"text": "symbolically to give them a vote for the first time in a formal process exactly", "start": 18407.36, "end": 18414.2}, {"text": "how we do it of course I'm not suggesting that we enumerate every house in the city that would be enormously expensive in wasteful and it's not", "start": 18414.2, "end": 18421}, {"text": "necessary we can have a self-identification voluntary process as the clerk mentioned we can learn from", "start": 18421, "end": 18426.76}, {"text": "the other cities that are already doing it this is is a very small step limited", "start": 18426.76, "end": 18432.68}, {"text": "effort by the city to indicate to 16 and 17 year olds that their voice counts", "start": 18432.68, "end": 18438.2}, {"text": "that their future in this city counts and that we want them to be part of it all we're doing today is asking the", "start": 18438.2, "end": 18444.36}, {"text": "staff to come back and tell us is it practical what would it look like how do we do it and these are things we should", "start": 18444.36, "end": 18450.48}, {"text": "know so I'm requesting your support thank you", "start": 18450.48, "end": 18455.878}, {"text": "holiday uh thank you speaker I don't support this initiative and I say that out of respect of my colleague counselor", "start": 18460.68, "end": 18467.28}, {"text": "who is being thoughtful in trying to find ways to engage youth in our city um", "start": 18467.28, "end": 18473.638}, {"text": "the worry I have is using an official process and a change like this to engage the youth as a very formal step uh for", "start": 18473.638, "end": 18480.84}, {"text": "something that is a problem that may be solved in another way uh I've been around long enough to see how important", "start": 18480.84, "end": 18487.92}, {"text": "the Precision of a poll can B uh it can make or break an item passing at a", "start": 18487.92, "end": 18493.6}, {"text": "community council and in the case of a parking pad that is a very dramatic change for an individual's home or", "start": 18493.6, "end": 18500.638}, {"text": "parking which is a very dramatic change to the street so I guess there's a few ways that this could be done um one of", "start": 18500.638, "end": 18507.16}, {"text": "them is to enumerate all of the 16 and 17 year olds in the city which I think all of us would agree is an enormous", "start": 18507.16, "end": 18512.798}, {"text": "task but it would offer you a very precise roster if there was something", "start": 18512.798, "end": 18517.878}, {"text": "else different uh that introduces ambiguity into the poll for instance", "start": 18517.878, "end": 18523.36}, {"text": "self identifying some 16 and 17 year olds and not others you begin to obscure", "start": 18523.36, "end": 18529.798}, {"text": "the Precision of the poll and if it loses on a vote um there's a lot of", "start": 18529.798, "end": 18535.12}, {"text": "questions to be asked and answered um when you're considering the severity of one of these items you know do I think", "start": 18535.12, "end": 18541.558}, {"text": "16 and 17 year olds should be politically aware and civically aware of what's going on", "start": 18541.558, "end": 18547.08}, {"text": "absolutely um and maybe when the PO comes to the home that is a teachable moment uh when the parents open the", "start": 18547.08, "end": 18553.878}, {"text": "envelope and they talk to their kids about what's in that envelope and what that's all about and why it's important", "start": 18553.878, "end": 18560.04}, {"text": "and discuss the voting together uh but those those would be very very limited", "start": 18560.04, "end": 18565.2}, {"text": "circumstances from what we hear uh there is a few polls run under very very", "start": 18565.2, "end": 18571.24}, {"text": "specific circumstances and just my general sense is is that this is a lot of work to ask", "start": 18571.24, "end": 18576.84}, {"text": "of the clerks I understand the idea uh but the benefit returned back on this", "start": 18576.84, "end": 18582.76}, {"text": "is is very very marginal for all of that work and uh if we can find ways to", "start": 18582.76, "end": 18587.798}, {"text": "better engage the youth great uh but I think introducing a formal requirement in our polling systems is not one uh", "start": 18587.798, "end": 18595.24}, {"text": "which is going to produce the benefit in return for the cost of it thank you thank you just want to remind members of", "start": 18595.24, "end": 18602.6}, {"text": "council that we have a huge agenda", "start": 18602.6, "end": 18606.796}, {"text": "today councelor morle thank you madam speaker um I want", "start": 18607.76, "end": 18615.04}, {"text": "to rise to speak in support of the motion before us today and thank my colleague for her leadership and her ongoing work in advocacy uh for the", "start": 18615.04, "end": 18622.16}, {"text": "young people of our city I appreciate the concerns raised uh by my colleague counselor holiday as well and and really", "start": 18622.16, "end": 18628.16}, {"text": "the Practical nature of what this might turn out to be I do still think that it is a worthy Pursuit uh and as we", "start": 18628.16, "end": 18635.32}, {"text": "consider how we want our young people to feel included reflected and um real", "start": 18635.32, "end": 18641.68}, {"text": "participants uh with a stake in our democracy and in our local government I think you know looking at opportunities", "start": 18641.68, "end": 18647.84}, {"text": "for us to open that door um and support them in that way are important for us to pursue uh so I do look forward to staff", "start": 18647.84, "end": 18654.798}, {"text": "uh coming back with more information about the impacts that this might have and that the path this might ultimately", "start": 18654.798, "end": 18660.558}, {"text": "um look like but I do think overall the goal of engaging young people in our democracy in our Democratic processes", "start": 18660.558, "end": 18667.36}, {"text": "and making sure their voices are part of the discuss is critically important so I will be supporting this motion and I thank uh", "start": 18667.36, "end": 18673.36}, {"text": "you all for hopefully supporting it as well thanks mam", "start": 18673.36, "end": 18678.68}, {"text": "speaker counc councelor", "start": 18683.08, "end": 18687.92}, {"text": "Chang thank you madam speaker I Rise also in support of my fellow counselor", "start": 18689.798, "end": 18695.68}, {"text": "Diane Sachs I thank her for bringing this motion forward it is creating a new", "start": 18695.68, "end": 18702.28}, {"text": "pathway and while we're not sure of the feasibility and we're not sure how we", "start": 18702.28, "end": 18707.798}, {"text": "can apply it but I certainly uh am sure that young people", "start": 18707.798, "end": 18713.558}, {"text": "have something to contribute and last week we had a TTC consultation almost a", "start": 18713.558, "end": 18719.798}, {"text": "hundred people in my neighborhood showed up to give feedback and one high school student gave an incredible presentation", "start": 18719.798, "end": 18728.958}, {"text": "of a proposed bus route and that presentation was just amazing it talked", "start": 18728.958, "end": 18735.44}, {"text": "about walk sheds it talked about anchor stations it had just a very logical", "start": 18735.44, "end": 18740.84}, {"text": "argument for why this proposed route should work and when you look and when", "start": 18740.84, "end": 18746.24}, {"text": "you look at this presentation and you meet young people like that you just know that we should be putting all the", "start": 18746.24, "end": 18753.52}, {"text": "crates in front of them as possible to lift them up to be able to participate in meaningful ways in shaping our city", "start": 18753.52, "end": 18761}, {"text": "and I know that when we strengthen their participation when they're younger they're more likely to be active and", "start": 18761, "end": 18768.12}, {"text": "engaged after they are legally allowed to participate in voting so this is a", "start": 18768.12, "end": 18773.718}, {"text": "pathway that we should explore and remove every barrier to promoting the", "start": 18773.718, "end": 18779.638}, {"text": "active citizenship of our young people so I thank councelor saaks for bringing this forward and it has my full support", "start": 18779.638, "end": 18786.638}, {"text": "thank you", "start": 18786.638, "end": 18789.84}, {"text": "councelor Carol yes Madam speaker I'd like to call", "start": 18792.52, "end": 18798.558}, {"text": "the question on this report request it's a report request calling the question", "start": 18798.558, "end": 18804.638}, {"text": "the question has been called recorded vote", "start": 18804.638, "end": 18810.25}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 18810.25, "end": 18821.47}, {"text": "just stand by members for one second while we set up the vote", "start": 18826.76, "end": 18832.878}, {"text": "voting panel is now open members", "start": 18849.558, "end": 18853.76}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 18861.48, "end": 18871.51}, {"text": "councel pra thank you councelor Pastak we're in the middle", "start": 18879.92, "end": 18885.638}, {"text": "of a vote can you take your seat", "start": 18885.638, "end": 18889.282}, {"text": "please the motion to end debate carries the vote is 18", "start": 18894.76, "end": 18900.682}, {"text": "to6 the item recorded vote", "start": 18900.798, "end": 18905.878}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 18914.24, "end": 18917.478}, {"text": "councelor Carol we're voting on the item", "start": 18921.28, "end": 18926}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 18930.26, "end": 18939.458}, {"text": "councelor Melby please and councelor canell", "start": 18951.16, "end": 18957.2}, {"text": "please the motion carries the vote is 18 to6", "start": 18965.36, "end": 18970.92}, {"text": "oh gosh", "start": 18971.44, "end": 18976.2}, {"text": "unbelievable wow we have so many priorities in this council chambers um our next", "start": 18977.84, "end": 18986.16}, {"text": "item councelor Fletcher councelor Fletcher", "start": 18986.16, "end": 18995.12}, {"text": "okay councelor Carol sorry ex1 1817 FIFA World Cup we're at the", "start": 19008.04, "end": 19019.238}, {"text": "item okay", "start": 19021.84, "end": 19025.84}, {"text": "I'm sorry I didn't hear you should have done that sorry I", "start": 19031.44, "end": 19038}, {"text": "apologize any questions to staff councelor", "start": 19038, "end": 19043.28}, {"text": "holiday thank you speaker uh I just wanted to ask about the mechanics around the implementation of the municipal", "start": 19043.28, "end": 19050.32}, {"text": "accommodation tax so there's a proposal for an increase effective to July 31st", "start": 19050.32, "end": 19057.44}, {"text": "2026 what is the the mechanics of the removal of that tax at the end of the", "start": 19057.44, "end": 19064.48}, {"text": "period uh through the speaker um so there is a process to to put the charge", "start": 19065.92, "end": 19071.16}, {"text": "on it's generally a few weeks to be able to implement it would be planned for it to be removed again we would take the", "start": 19071.16, "end": 19077.12}, {"text": "steps necessary to ensure that by the end of July 2026 um it would be automatically", "start": 19077.12, "end": 19083.48}, {"text": "removed from the Bills moving forward after that date so yeah this is very I want to make sure I understand this so", "start": 19083.48, "end": 19088.92}, {"text": "this is is this is this subject to a future budget approval or is this one time only and", "start": 19088.92, "end": 19095.92}, {"text": "you are obligated to remove the tax through the speaker the direction", "start": 19095.92, "end": 19101.36}, {"text": "that we are seeking is to give us authority to put the charge in place for 14-month period uh we are not seeking", "start": 19101.36, "end": 19109}, {"text": "direction to extend it beyond that uh and would automatically remove it without the need for us to come back to", "start": 19109, "end": 19114.76}, {"text": "council council could pass a motion that allowed you to keep it in place could could Council not uh if there were", "start": 19114.76, "end": 19121.2}, {"text": "Council direction to to change from that we would adhere to council Direction what's the impact to a typical hotel", "start": 19121.2, "end": 19129}, {"text": "bill through the speaker it's about $342 per night per", "start": 19129.718, "end": 19136.12}, {"text": "night and uh what um what is the revenue", "start": 19136.12, "end": 19141.798}, {"text": "that it is expected to be generated from the people that will come here from out of town for the purpose of FIFA", "start": 19141.798, "end": 19150.28}, {"text": "through the speaker it's expected to generate $ 56.6 million over the 14-month period that's not what I asked", "start": 19150.28, "end": 19156.68}, {"text": "Mr coni what is the amount expected to be generated from the people that are coming here for", "start": 19156.68, "end": 19163.24}, {"text": "FIFA oh sorry um the two months of FIFA uh if you give me a moment I'll be able", "start": 19163.24, "end": 19169.32}, {"text": "to call that number I don't have it exactly off the top of my head but one moment", "start": 19169.32, "end": 19175.878}, {"text": "uh through the speaker uh rough numbers we would expect during the the time period of the games uh would probably be", "start": 19180.08, "end": 19186.68}, {"text": "around 8 to 10 million collected during that time period now how much is specific from people coming for the", "start": 19186.68, "end": 19191.76}, {"text": "games I wouldn't have that breakdown you you don't know and then this is specifically targeted for tourists", "start": 19191.76, "end": 19197.28}, {"text": "coming to the city I take 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speaker uh the", "start": 19241.76, "end": 19248.32}, {"text": "municipal accommodation tax was originally introduced I believe in 2018 and was and it was introduced at 4%", "start": 19248.32, "end": 19256.798}, {"text": "uh there was a different uh kind of voluntary payments that were made before that uh roughly two years ago where we", "start": 19256.798, "end": 19263.958}, {"text": "saw approval through the budget process to increase it from 4% to 6% which which is where it is today and what you see in", "start": 19263.958, "end": 19270.24}, {"text": "front of you is a recommendation to increase it from 6% temporarily to 82%", "start": 19270.24, "end": 19275.28}, {"text": "for 14 months and it it applies to the value of the pre-tax hotel room is that", "start": 19275.28, "end": 19280.52}, {"text": "my understanding and what is the average hotel room uh yes it does apply to the value", "start": 19280.52, "end": 19286.958}, {"text": "of the pre-tax hotel room and in terms of the 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the FIFA subcommittee in terms of closing", "start": 19344.48, "end": 19351.2}, {"text": "out the funding Gap associated with the games so the games themselves had a total budget of 380 million uh the city", "start": 19351.2, "end": 19358.6}, {"text": "is responsible for about 47% of those costs it's about $178 million within", "start": 19358.6, "end": 19364.84}, {"text": "that we leveraged all opportunities available to us to be able to fund the games but there was a residual gap of", "start": 19364.84, "end": 19370.52}, {"text": "about 95 million so the direction was to come back and identify opportunities to", "start": 19370.52, "end": 19375.558}, {"text": "close that funding Gap uh one of the principles in terms of how we went to address that was ensuring that there was", "start": 19375.558, "end": 19381.68}, {"text": "no impact against our property tax base so in doing so we were limited in terms of the Avenues that we could take uh and", "start": 19381.68, "end": 19388.08}, {"text": "had looked at the municipal accommodation tax which was an area that does benefit from the Investments that", "start": 19388.08, "end": 19393.558}, {"text": "we're making in the games and doesn't have a direct impact on our property tax", "start": 19393.558, "end": 19399.558}, {"text": "base thank you madam speaker thank", "start": 19401.68, "end": 19406.16}, {"text": "you councelor Chang you have a question I do thank you madam", "start": 19408.68, "end": 19413.76}, {"text": "speaker um I'm wondering currently how is the uh revenue from the hotel tax", "start": 19413.76, "end": 19420.28}, {"text": "allocated in our city budget through the speaker the municipal", "start": 19420.28, "end": 19425.958}, {"text": "accommodation tax is received within our general revenues within the city it's then allocated to offset the cost of our", "start": 19425.958, "end": 19433.04}, {"text": "services that we provide um various Services across the city and how much is", "start": 19433.04, 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great thank you those are all my", "start": 19663.4, "end": 19669.238}, {"text": "questions count councelor chanti questions yes thank you uh", "start": 19675.36, "end": 19682.12}, {"text": "speaker um probably same question you've been asked but I'm GNA ask it a little", "start": 19682.12, "end": 19687.36}, {"text": "bit differently how did you come to select the time frame in the report from June 1st 25 to July 31st 26 given that", "start": 19687.36, "end": 19696.84}, {"text": "FIFA's here for a much shorter period of time uh through the speaker so there", "start": 19696.84, "end": 19702.958}, {"text": "were various scenarios that we we did review uh there was ultimately we were", "start": 19702.958, "end": 19708.44}, {"text": "looking to Target around the $56 million Target in terms of the amount of Revenue we would generate we looked at some", "start": 19708.44, "end": 19715.48}, {"text": "scenarios where it would be over a longer period of time and potentially phased we look at 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concert or major games that wouldn't follow the same formula so you", "start": 20100.28, "end": 20105.36}, {"text": "would actually see a much lower percentage that would come back to the city the majority of the taxes generated", "start": 20105.36, "end": 20110.92}, {"text": "would be through sales tax or income taxes which would benefit the federal and provincial government um but to your point we estimate round numbers uh a", "start": 20110.92, "end": 20118.52}, {"text": "major Six-Day event that might be happening could generate probably 250,000 of incremental mat revenue for", "start": 20118.52, "end": 20125.6}, {"text": "the city okay all right thank you very much thank you madam speaker thank", "start": 20125.6, "end": 20131.44}, {"text": "you councelor leure thank you speaker uh I'm just interested in destination", "start": 20135.958, "end": 20142.44}, {"text": "Toronto and it indicated $94 million and how much again could you remind me the", "start": 20142.44, "end": 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that I also have a question about Airbnb is", "start": 20187.558, "end": 20193.76}, {"text": "there any way that we can surcharge Airbnb are you saying councel fet you want to hold the item down I want to", "start": 20193.76, "end": 20199.76}, {"text": "know what we give to destination Toronto because I don't know if 28 million is", "start": 20199.76, "end": 20205.558}, {"text": "all they have or how much comes from everybody else pardon pretty much so now we have a", "start": 20205.558, "end": 20212.28}, {"text": "situation where we might expect them to help us a little bit more during this period of time because it's unclear it's", "start": 20212.28, "end": 20218.48}, {"text": "one thing to give 28 million but not to understand what percentage of their budget that is that's concerning to", "start": 20218.48, "end": 20225.878}, {"text": "me because we're asking asking for a hotel sear charge and we're still going to give that destination Toronto money", "start": 20225.878, "end": 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asked them to assist us in the cash contribution that we get Lily it's", "start": 20434.32, "end": 20441.44}, {"text": "really hard to do this when you're handing out all these candies I'm", "start": 20441.44, "end": 20446.442}, {"text": "sorry I don't want one I just want to focus on these $58 million thank", "start": 20447.68, "end": 20455.16}, {"text": "you so now I'm just looking to say what are what would we need for that would we", "start": 20455.16, "end": 20460.44}, {"text": "have to ask them to relinquish some of that funding that would be going there", "start": 20460.44, "end": 20465.52}, {"text": "under in 2026 so what we've proposed is a change to the rate we've not proposed asking for", "start": 20465.52, "end": 20472.16}, {"text": "any additional funds or any reduction to the amount that we provide destination Toronto we've also noted what would it", "start": 20472.16, "end": 20478.68}, {"text": "take to get that is my question not that we're asking for a bigger rate what would it take to get them to Forfeit", "start": 20478.68, "end": 20485.4}, {"text": "some of the money that we give to them so we could see Council Direction", "start": 20485.4, "end": 20491.76}, {"text": "in terms of adjusting the contribution I will note what we're presenting is that the full amount of the increase be", "start": 20491.76, "end": 20498.558}, {"text": "maintained by the city of Toronto and not that we would relink not that we would remit any of the additional funds", "start": 20498.558, "end": 20504.638}, {"text": "collected to destination Toronto so the full increase amount is coming back to the city to be able to support the games", "start": 20504.638, "end": 20511.36}, {"text": "and when do we see the destination Toronto budget and how they spend it and the CEO salaries and all of that when's", "start": 20511.36, "end": 20517.44}, {"text": "that presented to council because we give a very large amount of money so that is not presented to council what's", "start": 20517.44, "end": 20523.04}, {"text": "presented to council is our contribution to destination Toronto it is not a city budget that we would review outside of", "start": 20523.04, "end": 20529.36}, {"text": "our contribution but we could ask for it I'm you may be able to request that information well we pay a lot of money", "start": 20529.36, "end": 20536.52}, {"text": "so we should actually know how it's being spent should we not do we do everything else and just give money and", "start": 20536.52, "end": 20541.6}, {"text": "not know how it's being spent no I agree and I and I believe we also have a representative on the board that does", "start": 20541.6, "end": 20547.08}, {"text": "act in our interest on that behalf well very much in our interest actually thank you thank", "start": 20547.08, "end": 20553.92}, {"text": "you okay if we can put the speakers", "start": 20554.44, "end": 20559.12}, {"text": "list councilor Carol you held the item down did you want to speak first I did M", 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"doing we are showing progress uh and improved outcomes um and working with", "start": 22031.36, "end": 22037.2}, {"text": "the auditor general to to demonstrate that as well okay so in terms of the supervisor", "start": 22037.2, "end": 22044.76}, {"text": "which would be the closest person to the um to the on on the ground staff how", "start": 22044.76, "end": 22051.718}, {"text": "much time is uh of their time is spent in the office not", "start": 22051.718, "end": 22059.2}, {"text": "supervising through the speaker that's that's a difficult uh number to to quantify I I will say that in in our", "start": 22060.68, "end": 22068}, {"text": "debriefs with with supervisors you know they've certainly indicated um challenges in getting out to the field", "start": 22068, "end": 22074.958}, {"text": "as often as they would like given some of the administrative responsibilities that they do have so you know some of", "start": 22074.958, "end": 22081.32}, {"text": "the things that we're 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22126.2}, {"text": "executive directors so that that was your last question uh through the speaker I yes um we have ongoing", "start": 22126.2, "end": 22134.08}, {"text": "discussions with staff about challenges they have in in their work um and some of the initiatives that were underway", "start": 22134.08, "end": 22140.478}, {"text": "with respect to modernization digitizing daily activity sheets as an example are", "start": 22140.478, "end": 22146.04}, {"text": "initiatives that were underway before the audit Advanced because we recognized that we needed to modernize the systems", "start": 22146.04, "end": 22153.04}, {"text": "and tools that management uses in the work that they do um so we were already", "start": 22153.04, "end": 22158.28}, {"text": "quite aware that we needed to make those changes and and that work was well", "start": 22158.28, "end": 22163.76}, {"text": "underway thank you councelor Chen questions thank you", "start": 22165.44, "end": 22172.718}, {"text": "madam speaker um through you speaker I have a question about how staff report", "start": 22172.718, "end": 22179.958}, {"text": "about the work they do are photos ever used so that supervisors can see even", "start": 22179.958, "end": 22185.718}, {"text": "though they can't do site visits to see if the work that's been assigned has been", "start": 22185.718, "end": 22191.76}, {"text": "done uh through the speaker I I would say not as part of our daily activity sheet uh process there are occasions", "start": 22192.558, "end": 22200.12}, {"text": "where photos would be used to as a coaching Tool uh or based on a complaint", "start": 22200.12, "end": 22205.76}, {"text": "that we're investigating so it's more situational versus a a system", "start": 22205.76, "end": 22211.16}, {"text": "approach uh wouldn't it be much easier if people could just take a photo send", "start": 22211.16, "end": 22216.28}, {"text": "it to their supervisor then their supervisor know it was done because I know this past year we had a lot of", "start": 22216.28, "end": 22223.08}, {"text": "grass challenges and it's hard to even know if the grass is getting cut", "start": 22223.08, "end": 22230.4}, {"text": "sometimes during the summer through the speaker so certain activities would lend", "start": 22230.4, "end": 22235.52}, {"text": "themselves easier to to photo evidence than than other activities you know grass cutting as you knowe would be a", "start": 22235.52, "end": 22242.4}, {"text": "visual one whereas you know something maybe washed might you know not be as visual to see unless you're out there", "start": 22242.4, "end": 22248.958}, {"text": "observing it so the auditor general went through a process that matched GPS with daily", "start": 22248.958, "end": 22256.878}, {"text": "activity logs to see if people were where they said they were uh I'm", "start": 22256.878, "end": 22262.2}, {"text": "wondering if that kind of cross reference checking is being done within", "start": 22262.2, "end": 22268.24}, {"text": "the division now so we don't have to wait for the auditor general to do it but we can do it internally to make sure", "start": 22268.24, "end": 22275.36}, {"text": "our teams are are doing are where they say they are", "start": 22275.36, "end": 22280.718}, {"text": "now Madam chair so we have created a policy in place now where the divisions can compare the actual GPS data with the", "start": 22280.718, "end": 22288.04}, {"text": "assigned uh route base on triggers that the division may have in place so you've created the system but has it been", "start": 22288.04, "end": 22294.36}, {"text": "implemented yet Madam chair divisions are in various stages in the maturity in how they use", "start": 22294.36, "end": 22300.6}, {"text": "the tool and how they use the data um I'll turn over to parks to specifically talk about their scenario yeah through the chair so we", "start": 22300.6, "end": 22307.558}, {"text": "are we are on that Journey the digitization of the 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and report back to council so that we know that progress is", "start": 22394.558, "end": 22400.24}, {"text": "being made and and to earn back the trust of our communities through so through the", "start": 22400.24, "end": 22407.24}, {"text": "speaker we have committed uh report back timelines that will we expect restore", "start": 22407.24, "end": 22413.32}, {"text": "that trust because we intend to demonstrate progress and part of the action plan I spoke about at audit", "start": 22413.32, "end": 22419.36}, {"text": "committee uh identifies interm quality assurance models that we have put in", "start": 22419.36, "end": 22424.558}, {"text": "place to ensure that staff productivity is where it needs to be they're attending time on task as expected and", "start": 22424.558, "end": 22431.6}, {"text": "the work is getting done so you know those those systems are in place while we work through uh the more", "start": 22431.6, "end": 22438.36}, {"text": "modernization that the technology will allow us to do that work more efficiently I have one last question uh", "start": 22438.36, "end": 22444.44}, {"text": "you talked about work culture being a significant next step and work culture is not as simple as a digital system", "start": 22444.44, "end": 22451.718}, {"text": "it's something much deeper what are some strategies that you are considering or", "start": 22451.718, "end": 22456.958}, {"text": "already implementing to shift the work culture through through the speaker", "start": 22456.958, "end": 22462.798}, {"text": "aside from the the standard you know important tools like training and coaching we're also uh going out and", "start": 22462.798, "end": 22469.08}, {"text": "doing a number of listening sessions with our staff to talk about you know not just making sure that they're aware", "start": 22469.08, "end": 22475.04}, {"text": "aware of the audit understand what their accountabilities at the front line as well as at management are to improve uh", "start": 22475.04, "end": 22482.52}, {"text": "performance um and restore public confidence um and also make sure that we're providing them the tools and", "start": 22482.52, "end": 22488.2}, {"text": "supports that they need to do their jobs most effectively and understand that we're all part of the solution great", "start": 22488.2, "end": 22494.16}, {"text": "thank you so much thank", "start": 22494.16, "end": 22499.08}, {"text": "you councelor fleeter I I was at the audit committee and I saw", "start": 22501.6, "end": 22507.878}, {"text": "the auditor general talking about not filling out work forms and we know it's", "start": 22507.878, "end": 22513.2}, {"text": "on paper which is really hard to believe after amalgamation this long but I'd", "start": 22513.2, "end": 22518.478}, {"text": "have to say in my opinion that if somebody hasn't filled the form out that's a management issue not a delivery", "start": 22518.478, "end": 22525.798}, {"text": "issue from that person that's a management oversight issue is that correct or", "start": 22525.798, "end": 22530.84}, {"text": "not through the speaker it is required that the four persons are signing off on", "start": 22530.84, "end": 22536.28}, {"text": "those daily activity sheets so it is correct if they're not being reviewed it's a management issue that four person", "start": 22536.28, "end": 22542.6}, {"text": "hasn't reviewed it then it's another M we're moving up the scale till we come right to you or right to miss kavalski", "start": 22542.6, "end": 22549.04}, {"text": "whoever it is it's not that somebody went out and then they were just sitting around because if they haven't filled it", "start": 22549.04, "end": 22555.04}, {"text": "out that's identified and that was never identified as a role or management", "start": 22555.04, "end": 22560.44}, {"text": "oversight until the auditor general did her report is that right or wrong", "start": 22560.44, "end": 22566.92}, {"text": "I I I not sure that that wasn't 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"not a healthy surveillance workplace that is not a healthy workplace that you would you agree that parks are very", "start": 22612.44, "end": 22619.478}, {"text": "different than recreation in a building you know somebody's there parks it's more of an industrial model where you're", "start": 22619.478, "end": 22626.878}, {"text": "out there you're actually doing operations you have equipment you've got a lot of things sometimes it goes wrong", "start": 22626.878, "end": 22632.32}, {"text": "then you have an emergency then you've got a flood and you have to run around and do all those things do we agree on that I agree yes so it's a very", "start": 22632.32, "end": 22639.04}, {"text": "different function operationally than most other departments that are under Mr ISO correct child care in the office in", "start": 22639.04, "end": 22646.68}, {"text": "the building this a very different fish it's much less predictable correct much", "start": 22646.68, "end": 22651.718}, {"text": "less predictable now I just want to move to uh 31 111 because I've now in this", "start": 22651.718, "end": 22657.16}, {"text": "looking into everything found out that uh we can't call 311 nor can you call", "start": 22657.16, "end": 22663.76}, {"text": "311 and find out well here's the parks there's 50 people called in about", "start": 22663.76, "end": 22669.44}, {"text": "Riverdale Park that the washrooms not working we have no tracking of any kind", "start": 22669.44, "end": 22675.28}, {"text": "in the city of Toronto 3311 about any park is that", "start": 22675.28, "end": 22681.24}, {"text": "right through you madam speaker yes that is correct so we collect volume data", "start": 22681.24, "end": 22686.4}, {"text": "through 311 through the general inquiries line but we don't collect any specifics with respect to the park the", "start": 22686.4, "end": 22693.32}, {"text": "location of the park the issue Etc so when I have a transportation I go on 311 and I see that four people they're", 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very part of the Hort they want to keep the pools but if you could", "start": 22784.04, "end": 22790.958}, {"text": "access 311 you'd know where those problems are even the way we can do it", "start": 22790.958, "end": 22796.2}, {"text": "now but even you can't access the data I have can you through the chair that's correct and that would allow us to", "start": 22796.2, "end": 22801.878}, {"text": "assess the trends and work to with the staff on coaching and improving where we well you know here's the encampment", "start": 22801.878, "end": 22807.84}, {"text": "calls here's the maintenance calls here's the rink calls here's the this calls last question you know where those", "start": 22807.84, "end": 22813.4}, {"text": "clusters are and right now you don't have a clue because you can't even access what I can access correct thank", "start": 22813.4, "end": 22820.4}, {"text": "you thank you councelor holiday questions thank", "start": 22820.4, "end": 22828.68}, {"text": "you speaker and thank you to councelor Fletcher these are great questions I wanted to uh actually just asked the", "start": 22828.68, "end": 22835}, {"text": "general question anybody can take it does anyone know why a brick layer spends so much time laying the first", "start": 22835, "end": 22842.04}, {"text": "course and getting it perfectly level would you believe me if I told you", "start": 22842.04, "end": 22848.08}, {"text": "that if you don't get the foundation right as you build the bricks up the wall becomes tilted so I want to go to", "start": 22848.08, "end": 22855.08}, {"text": "this time sheet and I I'll stay uh stay on on the value of it so it it tracks", "start": 22855.08, "end": 22863.36}, {"text": "where the crews were and what they were what they did during the day but what", "start": 22863.36, "end": 22868.4}, {"text": "does this help with the supervisor in terms of planning the work", "start": 22868.4, "end": 22874}, {"text": "and understanding what's going on within the community 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that we've established internally the quality", "start": 23090.958, "end": 23097.16}, {"text": "assurance model that we spoke about so that's the foundation on the way up and on the way down from the top of the wall", "start": 23097.16, "end": 23105}, {"text": "is where are we as a city and as an organization and and a pfnr in terms of", "start": 23105, "end": 23112.28}, {"text": "approaching developing key performance indicators and measurements based on the", "start": 23112.28, "end": 23118.36}, {"text": "foundation and also tying that together with a system of 311 that speaks to all of those tasks", "start": 23118.36, "end": 23125.638}, {"text": "and performance indicators and takes the public input to identify issues where", "start": 23125.638, "end": 23131.2}, {"text": "are we on the maturity of the development of that system uh that I think is the model which we're", "start": 23131.2, "end": 23136.6}, {"text": "trying to pursue in term in terms of our oversight as Council last question thank you through the speaker I think you know", "start": 23136.6, "end": 23142.878}, {"text": "our management response and the timelines that we've indicated speak to somewh of those bigger pieces the 311", "start": 23142.878, "end": 23149.4}, {"text": "integration the full implementation of GPS we need to put the infrastructure in", "start": 23149.4, "end": 23154.478}, {"text": "place to be able to then understand the trends the service levels um publicly", "start": 23154.478, "end": 23160.44}, {"text": "speak to those so in the meantime we continue to use the service standards that we have and hold staff accountable", "start": 23160.44, "end": 23166.6}, {"text": "around those while we build the infrastructure in a more strategic way and a more holistic way to the points", "start": 23166.6, "end": 23172.638}, {"text": "that you're raising and that's going to take us a bit of time and we've identified what the timelines are with", "start": 23172.638, "end": 23177.798}, {"text": "respect to those initiatives thank you okay we'll go to speakers now", "start": 23177.798, "end": 23184.558}, {"text": "councelor Fletcher you held the item down uh okay just one moment pardon", "start": 23184.558, "end": 23194.84}, {"text": "I'll go at the end if it's not ready you have a motion I do I sent it", "start": 23194.84, "end": 23200.28}, {"text": "in but I'm I sent it just now so I don't know how do we have no they don't have anything I sent", "start": 23200.28, "end": 23208.4}, {"text": "it on CMP okay it's not ready so why don't we", "start": 23208.4, "end": 23215.92}, {"text": "go to the next speaker that' be perfect I'll go thank they're not ready", "start": 23215.92, "end": 23222.16}, {"text": "counselor holiday to speak uh thank you speaker I uh I would like to thank", "start": 23222.16, "end": 23228.478}, {"text": "everyone involved uh with this audit including the audit committee who um", "start": 23228.478, "end": 23233.52}, {"text": "took this matter very seriously you can hear the questions in the chamber uh because I think you know not only did", "start": 23233.52, "end": 23239.44}, {"text": "this erupt in the media as an item of interest but I think this is very Central to the work we do as a council", "start": 23239.44, "end": 23246.76}, {"text": "and our work with the auditor general and acknowledge her great work and of course that of pfnr um to facilitate", "start": 23246.76, "end": 23253.76}, {"text": "this it these are really fundamental issues that are", "start": 23253.76, "end": 23260.08}, {"text": "identified understanding how our resources operate out in the field and", "start": 23260.08, "end": 23266.28}, {"text": "apply themselves to the various parks that we've got and then come back and", "start": 23266.28, "end": 23271.44}, {"text": "account for it on a time sheet is fundamental and uh I think this should", "start": 23271.44, "end": 23276.52}, {"text": "be done with perfection every day this sheet should be filled out it should explain where people were what they did", "start": 23276.52, "end": 23283.878}, {"text": "on on one axis and the other axxis is of course all of the tasks that were assigned and that is the interface", "start": 23283.878, "end": 23291.24}, {"text": "between the work Crews and the supervisors and the management team that oversee the", "start": 23291.24, "end": 23297.558}, {"text": "parks and a lot of people put their work into that entire process if there's", "start": 23297.558, "end": 23303.36}, {"text": "missing pieces from that then it's hard to really have a good appraisal of what's happening out there and I think", "start": 23303.36, "end": 23312}, {"text": "developing this process is something that we need to stand behind as a council management is telling us that", "start": 23312, "end": 23318.24}, {"text": "they're taking a lot of actions right now to make sure that this works well the really exciting part about this", "start": 23318.24, "end": 23326}, {"text": "this process is it sets the foundation for where I think we need to go as an organization more generally and that is", "start": 23326, "end": 23334}, {"text": "understanding the inputs that we get from 311 from the city from the citizens our customers and how they are", "start": 23334, "end": 23341.718}, {"text": "experiencing the parks and they are very good I know this because we all get", "start": 23341.718, "end": 23347.24}, {"text": "calls about Parks they are near and dear to people they are very there's a personal connection to Parks people", "start": 23347.24, "end": 23354.24}, {"text": "speak up when something isn't right so we put all that together and we put that", "start": 23354.24, "end": 23359.4}, {"text": "together with a 311 system and then we have a very good way of understanding the trends what is going well what is", "start": 23359.4, "end": 23366.68}, {"text": "not going well and where we have to put resources into our Park system all of", "start": 23366.68, "end": 23372.24}, {"text": "that is based on the foundation of this this daily activity log um exciting", "start": 23372.24, "end": 23377.92}, {"text": "things about GPS and automating all of this but the foundational step has to be", "start": 23377.92, "end": 23383.28}, {"text": "there um so I I once again I thank everyone involved there's a lot of bits and pieces to this but I think the the", "start": 23383.28, "end": 23391.2}, {"text": "full realization of what this audit uh insists that the city pursue will mean", "start": 23391.2, "end": 23397.638}, {"text": "such um it will mean a lot of things to the citizens of this city and we will", "start": 23397.638, "end": 23402.718}, {"text": "have better parks uh and we'll have better use of the city's resources to make sure that we're", "start": 23402.718, "end": 23408.36}, {"text": "maintaining them the best we can so I I'm excited about this work and I think it's also something that we can take the", "start": 23408.36, "end": 23414.84}, {"text": "lessons from and apply in other parts of the city thank you madam speaker thank you", "start": 23414.84, "end": 23424.042}, {"text": "Sor counselor councelor Chang to speak", "start": 23424.32, "end": 23431.04}, {"text": "councelor Chang thank you madam speaker I have a motion", "start": 23431.04, "end": 23435.92}, {"text": "okay we'll put the motion on the", "start": 23438.24, "end": 23441.6}, {"text": "screen okay Council Chen this is a motion to explore the feasibility of", "start": 23444.92, "end": 23450.44}, {"text": "using photos before and or after photos as appropriate uh in order to strengthen", "start": 23450.44, "end": 23458.28}, {"text": "the digital daily activity sheets as well as the feasibility of customer", "start": 23458.28, "end": 23463.92}, {"text": "customer service agents accessing those photos to support and track 311 inquiries so this past summer my inbox", "start": 23463.92, "end": 23473.478}, {"text": "was inundated my phone number was jammed we had a lot of requests about long", "start": 23473.478, "end": 23480.84}, {"text": "grass that wasn't being cut and there are many reasons for this but it was really hard sometimes to know what was", "start": 23480.84, "end": 23488.08}, {"text": "happening and I don't know about you but I shop on Amazon and it is helpful when", "start": 23488.08, "end": 23494.76}, {"text": "I look into the app and I see oh the the package did land on my doorstep and that", "start": 23494.76, "end": 23501.638}, {"text": "gives me the assurance that I received what I ordered and so photos are incredibly helpful and they can be", "start": 23501.638, "end": 23508.36}, {"text": "helpful for tracking progress and they can also be helpful when we're", "start": 23508.36, "end": 23513.478}, {"text": "communicating progress with our constituents so this motion is just an", "start": 23513.478, "end": 23518.798}, {"text": "exploration as they build out the technology for the digital daily", "start": 23518.798, "end": 23524.08}, {"text": "reporting sheets how we might incorporate photos I understand not everything is going to be trackable by", "start": 23524.08, "end": 23530.718}, {"text": "photos fixing Plumbing in a toilet maybe is not a a good photo to report with but", "start": 23530.718, "end": 23537.36}, {"text": "there are a lot of projects that can be reported improving improved Pathways uh", "start": 23537.36, "end": 23543.84}, {"text": "Landscaping lots of work that our Parks folks do can be captured by photos and", "start": 23543.84, "end": 23550.52}, {"text": "there are ways to compress photos to minimize storage space uh and you can even timestamp the photos so that they", "start": 23550.52, "end": 23557.878}, {"text": "can be deleted with a in a certain period of time so this is just to analyze the feasibility because this", "start": 23557.878, "end": 23564.798}, {"text": "would increase transparency accountability and our ability to", "start": 23564.798, "end": 23570.16}, {"text": "communicate the work that our Park staff is doing so I hope that members will uh", "start": 23570.16, "end": 23576.08}, {"text": "support my proposal thank you we do have a question for you oh", "start": 23576.08, "end": 23583.32}, {"text": "sure uh councelor chanti three minutes", "start": 23583.32, "end": 23588.52}, {"text": "clarification of the motion thank you speaker and you probably didn't expect a question from me did", "start": 23588.52, "end": 23595.2}, {"text": "you um so I'm I'm just concerned what are you what are you trying to uh what", "start": 23595.2, "end": 23601.12}, {"text": "do you see that you're accomplishing with adding another layer of work for", "start": 23601.12, "end": 23606.28}, {"text": "City staff to do when they're on site so they're on site say they cleaned up a park they cut the grass they did", "start": 23606.28, "end": 23612.2}, {"text": "whatever work they're going to do they work is done the community everybody sees it including the local 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photo if there was an inquiry about that specific project", "start": 23656.28, "end": 23663.92}, {"text": "or location I all right thank you thank you thanks", "start": 23663.92, "end": 23669.68}, {"text": "speaker thank you I put it on", "start": 23669.68, "end": 23675.636}, {"text": "councel feter on to speak yes I know councelor Melby", "start": 23680.398, "end": 23687.32}, {"text": "question to the Mover three minutes thank um have you that every", "start": 23687.32, "end": 23694.2}, {"text": "staff worker has a mobile played for by the city of Toronto because like it's enormously expensive $100 a month per", "start": 23694.2, "end": 23701.798}, {"text": "phone per however many Park employees and I'm not certain they all have mobile phones right so it might not be every", "start": 23701.798, "end": 23707.558}, {"text": "staff member but certainly there would be supervisors that have phones and so again this is about a feasibility not an", "start": 23707.558, "end": 23715.6}, {"text": "implementation so what is ultimately the problem you're trying to solve with this transparency ease of", "start": 23715.6, "end": 23722.12}, {"text": "communication I think that if you're reporting with photos it's a lot easier to see the work has been done I get a", "start": 23722.12, "end": 23728.28}, {"text": "lot of complaints about quality of work and so if you have photos of something", "start": 23728.28, "end": 23733.84}, {"text": "that's been executed you can go back in time and actually see was it done to the", "start": 23733.84, "end": 23739.718}, {"text": "Quality that we hoped it was done but ultimately if you have a complaint isn't it that the time to go out and check it", "start": 23739.718, "end": 23747}, {"text": "a lot of things could happen between whenever the photo was taken in the complaint came in so I'm more concerned with complaint resolution and re", "start": 23747, "end": 23753.52}, {"text": "rectifying it other than documenting and the photos in the Angles and you may not", "start": 23753.52, "end": 23758.558}, {"text": "cover everything sometimes it could there could be a leg but sometimes you're not able to go immediately and", "start": 23758.558, "end": 23763.76}, {"text": "just to have the record uh I think that it's always better to have a record to be able to go back to than if someone", "start": 23763.76, "end": 23771.04}, {"text": "complains about something let's say over time they feel like this park has been", "start": 23771.04, "end": 23776.36}, {"text": "neglected all summer you could go back in time and look all summer what", "start": 23776.36, "end": 23781.92}, {"text": "happened right but on the same time like I mean a when people say always I think", "start": 23781.92, "end": 23787.04}, {"text": "you have to always take pause um that's a word people love to throw around um In the Heat of the Moment when again I", "start": 23787.04, "end": 23793.638}, {"text": "think it always comes back to the specific problem in that moment in time and no matter what the photo record shows you're still having to send", "start": 23793.638, "end": 23799.6}, {"text": "somebody back out there to check that work right so are we better off investing money in better supervision", "start": 23799.6, "end": 23806.08}, {"text": "and checking and resolving of complaints through 311 as opposed to going out and and changing the whole way we we take", "start": 23806.08, "end": 23812.08}, {"text": "photos well I don't know if it's changing everything I mean Amazon delivery people do it so quickly and I", "start": 23812.08, "end": 23819.04}, {"text": "don't think it adds a huge administrative burden and it actually reduces risk for them because because now they know that what they uh their", "start": 23819.04, "end": 23826.398}, {"text": "work has been done it's proven to be done so I'm not sure that this adds a a whole lot of layers but I do know that", "start": 23826.398, "end": 23835.478}, {"text": "people like to know that the work has been done and I think for people who are", "start": 23835.478, "end": 23840.558}, {"text": "doing the work knowing that at the end of the shift you have to take a photo of your progress that is also a level of", "start": 23840.558, "end": 23847.08}, {"text": "accountability so my last question on that then though is aren't we then minimizing their complaint because we're", "start": 23847.08, "end": 23852.398}, {"text": "going back by then throwing a photo and saying well you know actually it was it was cut we disagree with you as opposed", "start": 23852.398, "end": 23857.6}, {"text": "to dealing with their concern in real time like I think it starts to get very tit fortat with residents and that that's not a conversation I want to", "start": 23857.6, "end": 23863.28}, {"text": "engage in yeah like wouldn't it be better to just deal with here's the problem let's solve the problem that has been put into 311 that that was your", "start": 23863.28, "end": 23869.558}, {"text": "last question yeah I just think this can answer questions of of quality of delivery over time okay thank you uh", "start": 23869.558, "end": 23877.08}, {"text": "counselor Fletcher you have a question to the previous speaker motion mover yeah are you aware", "start": 23877.08, "end": 23884.638}, {"text": "that only uh management has cell phones that are City cell phones", "start": 23884.638, "end": 23890.478}, {"text": "counselor no I you're not aware of that so basically uh you can't", "start": 23890.478, "end": 23897.558}, {"text": "ask operational staff to take a picture on their own cell phone and send that in so there's actually no mechanism to do", "start": 23897.558, "end": 23904.718}, {"text": "what you've got here why is that because I think it's a lot of money and we'd have to approve that in the budget no I", "start": 23904.718, "end": 23910.958}, {"text": "mean why can't people use their personal CU that is not do you know do your staff", "start": 23910.958, "end": 23916}, {"text": "take pictures and do you take pictures of your staff work at the end of every day and say Here's what you've done take", "start": 23916, "end": 23921.718}, {"text": "photos and we do use our personal phones youra do you take pictures of your staff's work every", "start": 23921.718, "end": 23927.2}, {"text": "day no I do not take photos but we do take photos regularly I'm not talking", "start": 23927.2, "end": 23932.478}, {"text": "about you in Parks I'm talking about talking about somebody's work they've said here's what we've done you want", "start": 23932.478, "end": 23939.52}, {"text": "them to take a picture to show that I'm just asking you if in your office that's how you operate your office well my", "start": 23939.52, "end": 23946.398}, {"text": "office we work in close proximity and we copy each other in on email so there", "start": 23946.398, "end": 23952.52}, {"text": "actually is a lot of transparency of what work is being done so I think we've heard their 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accountability my", "start": 23997.44, "end": 24002.798}, {"text": "question was different did you hear Mr Dayton indicate a management problem", "start": 24002.798, "end": 24009.76}, {"text": "that they weren't checking the sheets daily did you hear the answer but I'm", "start": 24009.76, "end": 24015.638}, {"text": "not sure that checking a sheet daily can result in knowing if what you've asked", "start": 24015.638, "end": 24021.398}, {"text": "to be completed has been completed are you aware that you cannot force a city staff person that does not have a city", "start": 24021.398, "end": 24028.44}, {"text": "allocated phone to send anything in are you aware M speaker", "start": 24028.44, "end": 24035.238}, {"text": "none of this is clarification of the yes it is because you have to know if you", "start": 24035.44, "end": 24040.718}, {"text": "can do that or not well that's why it's a feasibility request well it's not really feasibility it's uh can you do it", "start": 24040.718, "end": 24047.08}, {"text": "okay councelor fleeter that was your last question uh counselor", "start": 24047.08, "end": 24054.28}, {"text": "Burnside uh yeah thank you madam uh speaker um you know when this story came out it's one of many that is very", "start": 24054.478, "end": 24062.52}, {"text": "demoralized as a counselor on the front line I'm the one and we're all the ones that have to", "start": 24062.52, "end": 24068.6}, {"text": "answer for what I think to uh what councelor Fletcher mentioned is a total", "start": 24068.6, "end": 24075.638}, {"text": "lack of supervision and I find this this whole discussion and all these um", "start": 24075.638, "end": 24082.04}, {"text": "recommendations a bit bizarre they're so in the weeds um you know when you look at all", "start": 24082.04, "end": 24088.12}, {"text": "the you know the the auditor says setting performance expectations and measuring outcomes", "start": 24088.12, "end": 24094.16}, {"text": "uh the committee a clear understanding make sure that people have a clear understanding of their responsibilities", "start": 24094.16, "end": 24099.76}, {"text": "for completing the daily activity sheets you would think that we're creating a new division a brand new company with", "start": 24099.76, "end": 24105.2}, {"text": "new employees that's not the case the parks department has been around for I", "start": 24105.2, "end": 24110.958}, {"text": "don't even know how many years the question we need to ask ourselves why hasn't this been done and to say oh yeah", "start": 24110.958, "end": 24118.638}, {"text": "we'll take responsibility and we're accountable what's that even mean the", "start": 24118.638, "end": 24123.798}, {"text": "big problem is there is no accountability and all this grade two level", "start": 24123.798, "end": 24129.08}, {"text": "recommendations thank you not but like this should have already been done and", "start": 24129.08, "end": 24134.28}, {"text": "it's not being done and we have 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{"text": "humble request of the day thank you", "start": 24181.2, "end": 24185.12}, {"text": "thank you counselor I'm going to call on coun speaker nun now", "start": 24188.32, "end": 24194.52}, {"text": "to speak hang on one second", "start": 24194.52, "end": 24199.04}, {"text": "please thank there you go thank you thank you and um I the recommendations that came up", "start": 24200.76, "end": 24209}, {"text": "from the audit committee uh were adopted and I I know that staff was in full support of it um and I don't shop at", "start": 24209, "end": 24216.958}, {"text": "Amazon so I really don't care what Amazon does", "start": 24216.958, "end": 24222.52}, {"text": "um but the problem I have and I I did mention it at uh at committee as well is", "start": 24222.52, "end": 24231.32}, {"text": "um you know when these calls are coming in through 311 uh Unfortunately they go directly to", "start": 24231.32, "end": 24238.36}, {"text": "the 311 and we are not aware and we we can't track the number of calls that are going", "start": 24238.36, "end": 24244.92}, {"text": "to 311 and then you get a call from a constituent saying well you know I", "start": 24244.92, "end": 24250.68}, {"text": "called the city been six months nobody's responded the park is dirty this is that grass hasn't been cut and so you know", "start": 24250.68, "end": 24258.2}, {"text": "there's a big problem here um and so we don't get those calls I really believe", "start": 24258.2, "end": 24265.2}, {"text": "um we need more um because of the number of parks that we have and I'm going to", "start": 24265.2, "end": 24270.798}, {"text": "talk about my ward and there's always issues there's always issues um where I get", "start": 24270.798, "end": 24276.52}, {"text": "calls from constituents and actually I encourage my constituents don't call 311 call me um and that's what they do and", "start": 24276.52, "end": 24284}, {"text": "we call the supervisor and the supervisor is out there and and they", "start": 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time staff go to One", "start": 24379.6, "end": 24385.68}, {"text": "Park and cut the grass and they go through all the other parks in their division that Park the grass is high so", "start": 24385.68, "end": 24392.478}, {"text": "they have to go back so there's so many parks that you have to maintain I think it's difficult for the the staff to go", "start": 24392.478, "end": 24399.958}, {"text": "out to individually um but this should have been caught years ago um you know but", "start": 24399.958, "end": 24409.2}, {"text": "I'd like to congratulate staff that you are adopting the Motions that audit and you have made a commitment and we did", "start": 24409.2, "end": 24416.478}, {"text": "talk about GPS on on uh the um vehicles uh because that you didn't", "start": 24416.478, "end": 24424.44}, {"text": "have that at one point right uh for Budget reasons you didn't have that um", "start": 24424.44, "end": 24430.6}, {"text": "but I think what we're saying now you need to do that because that's very important because without that you see", "start": 24430.6, "end": 24436.84}, {"text": "the problems that we have and in order to correct the the problems and issues", "start": 24436.84, "end": 24441.878}, {"text": "that we have we we need to invest in that and we need to do that um so um I", "start": 24441.878, "end": 24449.04}, {"text": "just want to say that it's unfortunate we've reached this point but but um I do", "start": 24449.04, "end": 24454.478}, {"text": "know that the staff that we have in my ward that's maintaining my parks and I", "start": 24454.478, "end": 24460.92}, {"text": "get so many calls and we call them directly and they do respond and I want", "start": 24460.92, "end": 24466.44}, {"text": "to thank them for doing that because I have a lot of challenges in my Parks as you know uh Howie um so and thank you", "start": 24466.44, "end": 24475.08}, {"text": "for that and we just cleaned up that Park that took us 6 months it finally got cleaned uh today thank you", "start": 24475.08, "end": 24484.762}, {"text": "you thank you speaker uh mayor would you like to speak next or okay thank you one", "start": 24485.92, "end": 24494.16}, {"text": "second please will I get this organized I'm going to yes you're", "start": 24494.16, "end": 24499.958}, {"text": "getting yep you're turned on there you go turned on okay", "start": 24499.958, "end": 24505.558}, {"text": "um Madam speaker I want to thank the both the audit team and the audit Comm", "start": 24505.558, "end": 24513.84}, {"text": "for doing this hard work", "start": 24513.84, "end": 24519.04}, {"text": "because some of us as mayor counselor we know because we're in Parks", "start": 24519.04, "end": 24525.16}, {"text": "all the time because we go to these activities festivals and I heard it over and over", "start": 24525.16, "end": 24533.52}, {"text": "again why are there cigarett butts in the uh sand area the play area kids can", "start": 24533.52, "end": 24540.2}, {"text": "pick it up it's not safe or or that uh is dirty um garbage or grass too high", "start": 24540.2, "end": 24547.28}, {"text": "but it it's mostly the garbage and the washrooms the washroom was what I heard", "start": 24547.28, "end": 24552.558}, {"text": "a lot to the extent that I went to some of the parks and start taking photos to", "start": 24552.558, "end": 24557.718}, {"text": "say wait wait a second this shouldn't be this way right and Council holidays both", "start": 24557.718, "end": 24565.44}, {"text": "audit committee and the service excellent committee uh taking charge of", "start": 24565.44, "end": 24571.398}, {"text": "it it's not just the par it's the recreation center and in different places right so I look forward from the", "start": 24571.398, "end": 24579.08}, {"text": "report that comes back because there's long list of recommendations both the tracking and", "start": 24579.08, "end": 24585.718}, {"text": "the management culture of that desire to serve and do the", "start": 24585.718, "end": 24595.16}, {"text": "best is it because there's not enough staff I don't know or is it because of culture or is it the lack of equipment", "start": 24595.16, "end": 24602.958}, {"text": "or the way it's manag or is it because they are uh deployed not in the best way", "start": 24602.958, "end": 24609}, {"text": "there's any number of reasons we don't know or is it a technology don't know so", "start": 24609, "end": 24614.958}, {"text": "all the recommendations in front of us is very useful and I look forward to see", "start": 24614.958, "end": 24622.08}, {"text": "the report back to say all of this now", "start": 24622.08, "end": 24627.12}, {"text": "are in a good system and I want to see that from the auditor team to say here's", "start": 24627.12, "end": 24632.92}, {"text": "the system here's the culture here are the people that will make sure it", "start": 24632.92, "end": 24638.28}, {"text": "happens and then we can say to uh the constituents and the people of Toronto", "start": 24638.28, "end": 24645.2}, {"text": "to say you pay your taxes you're going to get a clean Park and clean washroom", "start": 24645.2, "end": 24650.558}, {"text": "so that all of us will feel proud to represent uh parks are beautiful some of", "start": 24650.558, "end": 24658.16}, {"text": "they are just phenomenal and all of us know during Co times that the place", "start": 24658.16, "end": 24663.558}, {"text": "where we find Refuge that's the place where we gathered and we know how we appreciate the parts and but yet you", "start": 24663.558, "end": 24671.76}, {"text": "know I see some of these orphan spaces for example where things are quite a bit", "start": 24671.76, "end": 24678.6}, {"text": "uh encamped the different words one could describe it but thank you for doing the work and I look forward to the", "start": 24678.6, "end": 24686.6}, {"text": "result coming from uh Council holidays both committees both the audit committee", "start": 24686.6, "end": 24691.68}, {"text": "and the service uh Excellence committee thank you thank", "start": 24691.68, "end": 24698.84}, {"text": "you counselor councelor Fletcher did you want to speak now okay councelor saaks to to", "start": 24698.84, "end": 24708.92}, {"text": "speak just one moment councelor sex thank you I have a", "start": 24708.92, "end": 24717.16}, {"text": "motion um at the request of staff that the confidential attachment should stay confidential", "start": 24717.16, "end": 24723.2}, {"text": "uh so there you go um uh I also just wanted to say to the audit auditor", "start": 24723.2, "end": 24729.558}, {"text": "general and her team again how important this report is now the one of the things", "start": 24729.558, "end": 24736.958}, {"text": "that most drives my constituents crazy and most and as we've heard from others", "start": 24736.958, "end": 24742.52}, {"text": "what clearly signals that the city doesn't care and we're not getting good value for our taxes is when our parks", "start": 24742.52, "end": 24748.52}, {"text": "are in disrepair last year as most of you know I worked very hard with the mayor and", "start": 24748.52, "end": 24754.24}, {"text": "staff and others and we managed to get an extra $20 million for Parks maintenance added to the budget at the", "start": 24754.24, "end": 24759.92}, {"text": "very last minute and I was really anxious to see Parks maintenance improve", "start": 24759.92, "end": 24765.68}, {"text": "as a result and it didn't not in my word anyway and I couldn't understand", "start": 24765.68, "end": 24772.92}, {"text": "why because there's so many wonderful staff there there's so many people who care deeply work really hard work lots", "start": 24772.92, "end": 24780.32}, {"text": "of hours including the parks operations staff and yet the parks are in disrepair", "start": 24780.32, "end": 24786.32}, {"text": "there's trash there's mess and when we got this report this explained to the majority of", "start": 24786.32, "end": 24794.958}, {"text": "my constituents that the reason our parks are in such bad shaper not just that the", "start": 24794.958, "end": 24800.12}, {"text": "city's been on a starvation budget for 13 years but that we can't manage our people we don't track the information we", "start": 24800.12, "end": 24808}, {"text": "have and it takes the auditor general to look at the G PS records and say that", "start": 24808, "end": 24815.28}, {"text": "the work records are false now this is totally outrageous it FSE false over and", "start": 24815.28, "end": 24823.52}, {"text": "over and over again and that undercuts public faith in everything that we do in", "start": 24823.52, "end": 24830.44}, {"text": "an enormously important way so we've heard lots of commitments promises I'm", "start": 24830.44, "end": 24836.08}, {"text": "really glad that the audit audit committee is going to be right on top of this I was going to make a motion asking for regular reports back so we can see", "start": 24836.08, "end": 24842}, {"text": "action the audit committee is doing that um so in the end there's nothing for me to add", "start": 24842, "end": 24847.28}, {"text": "in terms of motions but I do want to emphasize how important it is that we do", "start": 24847.28, "end": 24852.76}, {"text": "the basics right and keeping a park clean and in good repair is one of the", "start": 24852.76, "end": 24858.28}, {"text": "basics we haven't been doing it we need to do it we've been given an important", "start": 24858.28, "end": 24864.08}, {"text": "tool now we need to do it thank you", "start": 24864.08, "end": 24869.718}, {"text": "councelor Cole to speak uh yes um I just wanted to say", "start": 24873.558, "end": 24878.92}, {"text": "thank the audit committee for uh this update it's h basically a bit of a well", "start": 24878.92, "end": 24884.52}, {"text": "is a serious wakeup call for uh not only the park staff but I think for uh all", "start": 24884.52, "end": 24891.76}, {"text": "the city staff that uh you know essentially the public depends", "start": 24891.76, "end": 24897.6}, {"text": "on you to maintain the uh Parks the roads the boulevards the the city", "start": 24897.6, "end": 24906.24}, {"text": "facilities and that the uh public pays for that and there demand that you do", "start": 24906.24, "end": 24913}, {"text": "good work with the facilities and I think hopefully all City staff will take this", "start": 24913, "end": 24919.558}, {"text": "as a uh a good uh lesson and I think the majority of City staff are", "start": 24919.558, "end": 24926.638}, {"text": "very uh passionate about uh their rinks their Parks uh", "start": 24926.638, "end": 24933.878}, {"text": "swimming pools uh there is a great deal to do and I I", "start": 24933.878, "end": 24941.08}, {"text": "sort of sometimes astonished when people say to me well", "start": 24941.08, "end": 24948.16}, {"text": "there's not enough parks in Toronto we need more I say yes we do and I say by the way have you ever been to our", "start": 24948.16, "end": 24955.92}, {"text": "national park in Toronto they have no idea", "start": 24955.92, "end": 24963.84}, {"text": "that we have a national park up the Rouge Valley have no idea I said do you know that councelor Fletcher and people", "start": 24963.84, "end": 24970.398}, {"text": "down the rehabilitated the mouth of the Dawn River do you know that's just happened really I haven't been down that", "start": 24970.398, "end": 24977.84}, {"text": "way since six since hurricane yeah or the work", "start": 24977.84, "end": 24983.24}, {"text": "that our parks department have done all up and down the uh uh lavender Creek you", "start": 24983.24, "end": 24989.16}, {"text": "know lavender Creek and Black Creek and that whole hum River Valley but we got all the flooding there well let's not be", "start": 24989.16, "end": 24997.798}, {"text": "negative okay uh so I uh that's one of my favorite places actually is the", "start": 24997.798, "end": 25004.16}, {"text": "Humber River Valley I asked people in my writing I said have you ever been down the Humber River", "start": 25004.16, "end": 25009.558}, {"text": "Valley all the way you know goes from the 401 all the way down to uh past uh", "start": 25009.558, "end": 25016.6}, {"text": "the uh Old Mill and goes forever to Lake CS her Sachs I don't know if she's there I've never seen her in the Humber River", "start": 25016.6, "end": 25022.878}, {"text": "Valley I'm there have you seen have you seen the salmon jumping yes okay 25 PB", "start": 25022.878, "end": 25030}, {"text": "Salon in the middle of the city of Toronto so that's the other part of the equation too I think torontonians have", "start": 25030, "end": 25036.24}, {"text": "got to get out of their own little uh neighborhood and really appreciate the", "start": 25036.24, "end": 25043.08}, {"text": "other parks and um again this is uh critically important a report I think it", "start": 25043.08, "end": 25051}, {"text": "really is going to motivate people to I think do better and it's our job as", "start": 25051, "end": 25056.52}, {"text": "counselors also uh to ensure that our parks are taken care of and like what I", "start": 25056.52, "end": 25063.04}, {"text": "always try and do during the year I try to get local residents to do cleanups", "start": 25063.04, "end": 25069.36}, {"text": "not just in that you know National cleanup day whatever it is but I try to", "start": 25069.36, "end": 25074.718}, {"text": "get regular cleanups done along my York Belt Line and these places because I", "start": 25074.718, "end": 25080.84}, {"text": "tell them listen the city can can do its job the parks work can do it job but you", "start": 25080.84, "end": 25086.16}, {"text": "who live there don't just walk by that piece of garbage or dirt you know", "start": 25086.16, "end": 25094.398}, {"text": "pick it up and put it in the blue box or put it in the container so and I do that", "start": 25094.398, "end": 25099.84}, {"text": "as myself as a counselor too if I see a bottle in the ground I pick it up and I", "start": 25099.84, "end": 25105.12}, {"text": "put it in the blue box whatever it is so I think we also have to uh all do a", "start": 25105.12, "end": 25111.2}, {"text": "better job as counselors uh the citizens have to take more ownership and I know there's so many citizens that do the the", "start": 25111.2, "end": 25118.52}, {"text": "people that take care of our Ravine system and are in The Ravines so it just can't be totally on the backs of Staff", "start": 25118.52, "end": 25127.08}, {"text": "staff staff we as counselors have to do a better job and also we uh who live in", "start": 25127.08, "end": 25134.76}, {"text": "these communities with these beautiful Parks have to appreciate them and I as I said generally speaking although the the", "start": 25134.76, "end": 25141.68}, {"text": "parks department will tell you I'm on the phone the parks department on a few issues in my 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25187.24, "end": 25194}, {"text": "reporting back on that and parks department will or I'll put a motion along with uh to a different to a", "start": 25194, "end": 25200.28}, {"text": "different meeting and I can't that because of my little iPad just won't interface with it it just not it's not", "start": 25200.28, "end": 25208.24}, {"text": "up to the task today um I want to uh thank the auditor general and thank our", "start": 25208.24, "end": 25214.68}, {"text": "parks department our general manager for uh this report because we're finding", "start": 25214.68, "end": 25220.6}, {"text": "that two things that shocked me very deeply the first thing that shocked me deeply was that we can't use 311 to", "start": 25220.6, "end": 25229.44}, {"text": "follow up on anything regarding our parks and yet our parks are probably the", "start": 25229.44, "end": 25234.6}, {"text": "most cherished part of the city we don't cherish our roads in quite the same way", "start": 25234.6, "end": 25239.798}, {"text": "but those green spaces in the neighborhood where you take your child where you take your dog where you have", "start": 25239.798, "end": 25244.84}, {"text": "the market where you have the art that's what people love about the city I think councelor Cole going down the Humber", "start": 25244.84, "end": 25251.2}, {"text": "River when trca sends the canoes down the dawn River walking out in Rouge Park", "start": 25251.2, "end": 25257.84}, {"text": "and at the waterfront up the Rouge River we have such beautiful system system here in the city but you know what we", "start": 25257.84, "end": 25264.84}, {"text": "found out we can't find out who what people are calling in about because there's no interface at 311 so I don't", "start": 25264.84, "end": 25272.12}, {"text": "know if I have 15 calls that the washroom in felstead park has been busted up by looking on", "start": 25272.12, "end": 25279.6}, {"text": "311 I only find out because people are calling and then saying what have you done or I've called the city so this is", "start": 25279.6, "end": 25286.398}, {"text": "a system that is actually not functioning in the best interest of the", "start": 25286.398, "end": 25292}, {"text": "of the residents in the best interest of the department or in the best interest", "start": 25292, "end": 25297.12}, {"text": "of city council because I can as I said I can check and see where everybody", "start": 25297.12, "end": 25302.878}, {"text": "thinks there's dumping oh there's dumping up on OK Conor there's dumping here for solid waste this has happened", "start": 25302.878, "end": 25309.478}, {"text": "that's happened I did get a large amount of information but I don't", "start": 25309.478, "end": 25315.478}, {"text": "know where that happened I know there's 11,000 311 calls about Parks maintenance", "start": 25315.478, "end": 25321.958}, {"text": "over 2 years I could not tell you where any of that was about we cannot tell so", "start": 25321.958, "end": 25329.36}, {"text": "first and foremost we just don't have data that's a problem so I believe that", "start": 25329.36, "end": 25336.16}, {"text": "will be a number one problem to get fixed however you have to fix that so we're all aligned I can call on MLS and", "start": 25336.16, "end": 25344.44}, {"text": "find how many dog bites there were in my ward I can't find anything out about", "start": 25344.44, "end": 25349.878}, {"text": "which parks are are uh people have complained about such", "start": 25349.878, "end": 25354.92}, {"text": "as councelor nunia said Well everybody's called about this park well she'd know that right away if it was a 311 call and", "start": 25354.92, "end": 25361.44}, {"text": "you could see that there's six calls about X park or Y Park so that's a problem let's just understand a deeply", "start": 25361.44, "end": 25367.638}, {"text": "embedded problem at the moment in this system the other one is and I want to point out that and I know these sheets", "start": 25367.638, "end": 25375.04}, {"text": "weren't filled out and they're in paper that's a management problem if somebody doesn't get the employee to do something", "start": 25375.04, "end": 25381.798}, {"text": "something that's the management problem it's not the worker okay I don't feel like filling that out or I'm very busy", "start": 25381.798, "end": 25388.32}, {"text": "I'll do that tomorrow and it didn't get done that's a management problem here's", "start": 25388.32, "end": 25393.478}, {"text": "what's required for you to do your job I won't be supporting everybody having their own cell phone and taking pictures", "start": 25393.478, "end": 25400.12}, {"text": "that becomes a very big problem let's not go there right now and I really think counselor sax you saying that", "start": 25400.12, "end": 25406.718}, {"text": "people are falsifying information that is a very serious charge people might be", "start": 25406.718, "end": 25413.08}, {"text": "leaving something off they may say okay I went and did that yesterday I have to fill that in I just would like you to go", "start": 25413.08, "end": 25419.92}, {"text": "and ride around we all love to ride around with the police go and ride around with the park staff go and ride", "start": 25419.92, "end": 25426.798}, {"text": "around from one big Park to one small Park you get the call somebody smashed something up you get the call there's a", "start": 25426.798, "end": 25433.16}, {"text": "rave in Riverdale Park and then you have to go the next day and there's all kinds of crap everywhere and you have to get", "start": 25433.16, "end": 25439.12}, {"text": "it cleaned up because you can't have the park like that which means you didn't do what was on your list it's kind of like", "start": 25439.12, "end": 25445.24}, {"text": "being a counselor where you have your list and then all of a sudden you get a call that something's happening here", "start": 25445.24, "end": 25450.68}, {"text": "that surprises you and you got to jump to that I understand it's an industrial", "start": 25450.68, "end": 25455.958}, {"text": "model it's not an office model that we have here so let's be sensitive to the", "start": 25455.958, "end": 25461.478}, {"text": "nature of this work to the fact that the management structure needs to be more careful in and indicating what is", "start": 25461.478, "end": 25469.478}, {"text": "required from staff and not making them feel like we're watching everything that you do nobody's wa only s only residents", "start": 25469.478, "end": 25477.32}, {"text": "watch everything that we do right counselor chanti everybody else we're under that um that microscope but I", "start": 25477.32, "end": 25484.638}, {"text": "don't I I want to be clear that number one Management number two do your job", "start": 25484.638, "end": 25490.16}, {"text": "number three fix three one one it's actually a shock that we're sitting here", "start": 25490.16, "end": 25495.398}, {"text": "today understanding that we have no ability on 311 to get the information we need about our Parks thank you speaker", "start": 25495.398, "end": 25502.478}, {"text": "thank you okay let's ring the bells we're ready to", "start": 25502.478, "end": 25507.92}, {"text": "vote what to get everybody at their", "start": 25516.68, "end": 25520.84}, {"text": "seat okay we'll put the first motion on the screen [Music]", "start": 25522, "end": 25537.52}, {"text": "counselor okay the first motion is on the screen by councelor Chang recorded", "start": 25537.52, "end": 25545.28}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 25545.42, "end": 25548.66}, {"text": "vote e", "start": 25560.558, "end": 25564.558}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 25576.67, "end": 25584.61}, {"text": "Council approves I please your vote and thank", "start": 25592.04, "end": 25597.238}, {"text": "you motion number one does not carry the vote is 10 to", "start": 25598.68, "end": 25604.6}, {"text": "14 okay our next", "start": 25606.2, "end": 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"start": 31136.2, "end": 31142.958}, {"text": "stewards of public money to be transparent and to make sure that when", "start": 31142.958, "end": 31149.12}, {"text": "we spend money procuring something it is done in a fair", "start": 31149.12, "end": 31155.44}, {"text": "manner this report makes it clear that that did not happen here it was a", "start": 31155.92, "end": 31163.16}, {"text": "massive failure in governance as I said in camera if you look through", "start": 31163.16, "end": 31169.44}, {"text": "the record you will see I am a frequent and staunch supporter of the great women", "start": 31169.44, "end": 31175.638}, {"text": "and men who run the city of Toronto I think our public service is second to", "start": 31175.638, "end": 31181.718}, {"text": "none and in a moment like this when it's very clear there was a failure we have", "start": 31181.718, "end": 31188.318}, {"text": "to reassure the people of Toronto that we take this seriously and we take all", "start": 31188.318, "end": 31193.478}, {"text": "the appropriate steps to both make sure that it doesn't happen again and that", "start": 31193.478, "end": 31199.478}, {"text": "the individuals who participated in it are not making decisions on behalf of the city of Toronto", "start": 31199.478, "end": 31207.796}, {"text": "anymore I hope you'll support the motion that I put forward and I hope that all", "start": 31208.44, "end": 31213.68}, {"text": "of us seriously reflect on how we can have a stronger and healthier", "start": 31213.68, "end": 31218.718}, {"text": "partnership service thank you okay so let's uh vote on the", "start": 31218.718, "end": 31227.238}, {"text": "motions okay motion by councelor", "start": 31234.28, "end": 31238.716}, {"text": "Fletcher all in favor Carri speaker can I have a recorded vote", "start": 31243.2, "end": 31249.6}, {"text": "please uh councelor Thompson has asked for a recorded vote thank you", "start": 31249.6, "end": 31255.68}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 31255.68, "end": 31299.65}, {"text": "that's", "start": 31301.2, "end": 31304.2}, {"text": "the motion is adopted unanimously 21 in favor okay motion by councelor perks and", "start": 31329.04, "end": 31336.28}, {"text": "recorded vote thank you [Music]", "start": 31336.28, "end": 31346.81}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 31349.7, "end": 31355.658}, {"text": "this [Music]", "start": 31374.84, "end": 31383.798}, {"text": "Council chis L please and thank", "start": 31383.798, "end": 31387.762}, {"text": "you councelor chrisan how do you vote please", "start": 31397.04, "end": 31402.68}, {"text": "speaker the motion does not carry the vote is 11 to 11 it loses on a TI vote", "start": 31422.76, "end": 31431.316}, {"text": "quick", "start": 31438.28, "end": 31440.556}, {"text": "releases all in favor item is amended carried thank you quick", "start": 31444.638, "end": 31451.44}, {"text": "releases if you can put your name on the screen please counselor Fletcher quick", "start": 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okay we don't okay may may I have a motion to", "start": 31778.28, "end": 31784.16}, {"text": "introduce the confirmatory bills counselor JIS", "start": 31784.16, "end": 31789.638}, {"text": "Lyn counselor chisl hello hello hello sorry councelor", "start": 31789.638, "end": 31798.28}, {"text": "chis Linn can you get up and move the", "start": 31798.28, "end": 31803.318}, {"text": "motion there is okay it wasn't on my screen apologies through the chair the", "start": 31803.318, "end": 31808.558}, {"text": "confirmatory Bill uh yes I I am moving uh that leave", "start": 31808.558, "end": 31813.92}, {"text": "be granted to introduce bills thank you do you want me to read the whole motion you you'll have to read it sorry that", "start": 31813.92, "end": 31820.638}, {"text": "leave be granted to introduce bills to confirm to the point of the introduction of this motion the proceedings of city", "start": 31820.638, "end": 31826.398}, {"text": "council meeting 23rd on November 13th 2024 through the speaker thank you", "start": 31826.398, "end": 31833.558}, {"text": "great shall Lee be granted to introduce these bills all in favor show pant", "start": 31837.958, "end": 31844.28}, {"text": "carried shall these bills be declared as bylaws and be passed subject to section", "start": 31844.28, "end": 31851.44}, {"text": "226.000 6 all in favor carried now tomorrow morning we'll recess to", "start": 31852, "end": 31857.878}, {"text": "9:30 and please have your quick items ready so we can get the agenda", "start": 31857.878, "end": 31865.798}, {"text": "finished recess to 9:30 tomorrow thank", "start": 31865.798, "end": 31871.318}, {"text": "you for", "start": 31883.52, "end": 31887.556}]