[{"text": "hello and and welcome to this meeting of uh the Council of the town of Oakville it's November 5th 6:30 p.m and uh uh we", "start": 1.4, "end": 10.12}, {"text": "are mostly all but one here in our places uh remote or in person and we", "start": 10.12, "end": 16.72}, {"text": "only have regrets from councelor Longo uh councilor are there any Declarations of pecuniary Interest Madam clerk I see", "start": 16.72, "end": 24.8}, {"text": "no declarations we have u a very limited agenda tonight Council I'd like to ask", "start": 24.8, "end": 30.439}, {"text": "if I could have two of you uh we have no delegations on 5.2 the community activation Grant and I wonder if two of", "start": 30.439, "end": 37.48}, {"text": "you would be good enough to move and second that councelor null and councelor Sh thank you any objection there being", "start": 37.48, "end": 44}, {"text": "none that's carried and uh we can now turn our attention to the", "start": 44, "end": 49.8}, {"text": "main event uh the first thing is we have a staff presentation uh council's had that in", "start": 49.8, "end": 56.28}, {"text": "advance on escribe and uh the public I I believe will be interested so um when", "start": 56.28, "end": 63.399}, {"text": "staff are ready uh we are Mr", "start": 63.399, "end": 68.4}, {"text": "Dello good evening mayor Burton and members of council as you know in developing the new master plan for parks", "start": 70.159, "end": 75.96}, {"text": "recreation and libraries this past year we've done extensive engagement with stakeholders including our library board", "start": 75.96, "end": 82.28}, {"text": "members Community organizations residents staff and of course Town Council the parks recreational Library", "start": 82.28, "end": 89.079}, {"text": "master plan that were presenting to you this evening provides us with a road map for addressing the needs of our", "start": 89.079, "end": 94.24}, {"text": "community both now and into the future as we prepare for growth it's", "start": 94.24, "end": 99.399}, {"text": "vital that we chart a course that builds a strong and resilient future for parks recreation and Library services in", "start": 99.399, "end": 105.159}, {"text": "Oakville the plan that you'll see tonight will strategically guide the town for the next 10 years with a", "start": 105.159, "end": 110.759}, {"text": "planning Horizon that considers major Capital needs through to the year 2051 we're confident that this plan", "start": 110.759, "end": 117.84}, {"text": "strikes a balance between Community needs and the town's Financial capacity to address those needs all with the goal", "start": 117.84, "end": 124.56}, {"text": "of delivering on council's priority to ensure a vibrant and livable Community for all tonight we're pleased to welcome", "start": 124.56, "end": 132.04}, {"text": "Steve langa from mon teth Brown Consultants who has worked extensively with our staff team to lead the master", "start": 132.04, "end": 138.04}, {"text": "plan process and he will be presenting the plan and sharing the important and exciting recommendations within it over", "start": 138.04, "end": 144.36}, {"text": "to you Steve", "start": 144.36, "end": 147.68}, {"text": "thank you uh thank you mayor Burton members of council can everyone hear me all right", "start": 156.72, "end": 161.879}, {"text": "perfect it's my pleasure to be here tonight presenting the parks recreation and Library master plan uh focused", "start": 161.879, "end": 169.159}, {"text": "really on key updates since we last met in May next slide", "start": 169.159, "end": 174.599}, {"text": "please so the master plan is a road map for uh really intended to guide the town", "start": 174.599, "end": 180.519}, {"text": "as as commissioner um damaso had indicated guiding the town for the next 10 years with that planning Horizon that", "start": 180.519, "end": 186.599}, {"text": "extends to 2051 there are a number of tools and tactics and techniques built into the plan to give the town that", "start": 186.599, "end": 193.04}, {"text": "flexibility as you work towards that planning Horizon and the plan itself will be updated before 2051 so this is", "start": 193.04, "end": 199.519}, {"text": "not the only uh only time to unpack this but it's nice to know uh where we need to go especially when we're dealing with", "start": 199.519, "end": 205.64}, {"text": "major Capital assets that require land and and such Advanced planning a draft of the plan was presented to", "start": 205.64, "end": 212.12}, {"text": "Town Council in May of this year public feedback was then sought on those uh proposed directions and tonight it has", "start": 212.12, "end": 219.36}, {"text": "been updated for your consideration next slide so I'll try to move relatively", "start": 219.36, "end": 224.879}, {"text": "quickly through a set of slides that provide some important context for the plan uh but really to start really just", "start": 224.879, "end": 231.08}, {"text": "wanted to qualify what a master plan is and is not uh in fact the master plan", "start": 231.08, "end": 236.76}, {"text": "itself will and and does employ evidence-based approaches to identify and prioritize those needs over the next", "start": 236.76, "end": 243.319}, {"text": "25 to 30 years it seeks to improve Equity by addressing Geographic gaps", "start": 243.319, "end": 248.56}, {"text": "around the town it identifies growth related needs informs financial planning future Bud budgets aligns with related", "start": 248.56, "end": 256.199}, {"text": "town plans and studies supports the town in becoming partner and Grant ready and is intended to be that living document", "start": 256.199, "end": 263.28}, {"text": "adaptable to changing Trends and uh growth next Slide the master plan sets", "start": 263.28, "end": 269.479}, {"text": "the of course but recognizes that additional work will be necessary in some instances for example we know that", "start": 269.479, "end": 277.68}, {"text": "uh there will be a need through the implementation of the plan to continue to work towards identifying", "start": 277.68, "end": 283.24}, {"text": "comprehensive funding strategies to deliver on key aspects of the plan to", "start": 283.24, "end": 288.28}, {"text": "commit funds to specific projects to address site specific planning consultation and design processes", "start": 288.28, "end": 295.24}, {"text": "negotiate Partnerships or land purchases and uh the continued Focus around Asset Management initiative so uh it's really", "start": 295.24, "end": 302.4}, {"text": "sort of you know as these umbrella documents uh unfold they do set the stage for further work I'd love to say", "start": 302.4, "end": 308.08}, {"text": "it is all here and captured in our 500 plus pages of analysis uh but in in many", "start": 308.08, "end": 313.36}, {"text": "respects it is the starting point for uh some more exciting things uh always to come here in in Oakville next slide in", "start": 313.36, "end": 321.88}, {"text": "terms of scope what we'll be talking about tonight really three key things Recreation facilities and services", "start": 321.88, "end": 327.68}, {"text": "public libraries and services and Par Park facilities and park land next Slide", "start": 327.68, "end": 334.4}, {"text": "the plan itself is based on a number of key foundational elements as mentioned", "start": 334.4, "end": 339.44}, {"text": "trying to draw in evidence as much as possible throughout uh it really starts and and I'll touch on this more in in a", "start": 339.44, "end": 346.479}, {"text": "moment around our public and stakeholder input um which was held through various", "start": 346.479, "end": 352.28}, {"text": "stages of of work over the year and a half that this plan has been under development uh the draft and and the", "start": 352.28, "end": 358.52}, {"text": "plan before you today pulls in demographic analysis in particular growth uh layers and um how and and", "start": 358.52, "end": 365.28}, {"text": "where the the town is changing and then other research and Trends uh what what", "start": 365.28, "end": 371.479}, {"text": "uh activities are uh growing in demand uh what other aspects of our lifestyle", "start": 371.479, "end": 376.919}, {"text": "that Oakville is building uh are important and resonate here uh locally", "start": 376.919, "end": 382.72}, {"text": "next slide I mentioned public and stakeholder engagement uh this has been an item that's been ongoing throughout", "start": 382.72, "end": 389.319}, {"text": "the project our first few stages of work uh culminated in a survey uh Community", "start": 389.319, "end": 395.759}, {"text": "survey we had over 2,000 households representing even more residents that", "start": 395.759, "end": 400.88}, {"text": "participated in that undertaking there were six open house sessions last spring", "start": 400.88, "end": 406.68}, {"text": "uh that spoke to in Spring 20 23 that uh reached out and allowed other interests 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depended on on many of these were", "start": 496.24, "end": 502.68}, {"text": "localized concerns um but certain things also resonated across the municipality", "start": 502.68, "end": 508.44}, {"text": "things like maintaining expanding indoor pool pool service levels expanding pick aall facilities both indoor and outdoor", "start": 508.44, "end": 515.479}, {"text": "preserving natural spaces improving playgrounds uh Focus look on Library", "start": 515.479, "end": 520.88}, {"text": "services in Clear View and additional Library programming it's not that you're not doing any of this right now it's", "start": 520.88, "end": 526.68}, {"text": "just you know it speaks to the values of of your community and the desire to see um continued service next", "start": 526.68, "end": 534.8}, {"text": "slide so I'll get into a little bit of of what we heard just from uh we've met", "start": 534.8, "end": 540.72}, {"text": "with Library yville Public Library board we met with Council back in May and a", "start": 540.72, "end": 547.12}, {"text": "number of items and and really just want to shine a light on the fact that these have all been addressed in the in the", "start": 547.12, "end": 553.16}, {"text": "plan that's before you today so we heard a desire to identify conditions under which lighting might be considered for", "start": 553.16, "end": 559.44}, {"text": "selected Sports Fields south of Dundas Street and I'll come back to that more in a bit uh we heard about um ensuring", "start": 559.44, "end": 566.8}, {"text": "that there's additional feedback and opportunity for for public input around an outdoor pool modernization strategy", "start": 566.8, "end": 573.72}, {"text": "that's been identified uh we're asked to reconsider potential demand for a community center in Joshua Meadows area", "start": 573.72, "end": 581.279}, {"text": "and unfortunately that's an area with u a smaller population even with the forecast a smaller population that does", "start": 581.279, "end": 587.2}, {"text": "not meet the the the threshold for uh it its own dedicated Center however we do", "start": 587.2, "end": 592.839}, {"text": "note that additional community centers are being proposed nearby along the troger corridor and also asked to and", "start": 592.839, "end": 601.16}, {"text": "and we heard a bit more about this from the public around identifying conditions where the town might consider a 50 meter", "start": 601.16, "end": 606.959}, {"text": "indoor pool that's been integrated into the plan and as well as the delivery of", "start": 606.959, "end": 612.24}, {"text": "of potential need and and potential delivery of Library space in Midtown Oakville Bronte and Clear View and more", "start": 612.24, "end": 619.72}, {"text": "on that in a moment so we have looked more closely at these items made several adjustments within in the plan itself uh", "start": 619.72, "end": 626.6}, {"text": "notably for the first item above their Sports fields uh the stage three report contains a list of those criteria", "start": 626.6, "end": 632.76}, {"text": "fortunately and as we looked uh we continue to work through our research on that we feel the addition of Lights to", "start": 632.76, "end": 638.32}, {"text": "more future fields in in North Oakville will allow for uh some added capacity uh", "start": 638.32, "end": 643.839}, {"text": "the idea here was never to light every Sports field in in South Oakville uh but rather uh to make sure that there was", "start": 643.839, "end": 650.24}, {"text": "the the capacity needed to ident to address needs moving forward so I think that's been largely minimized the the", "start": 650.24, "end": 656.32}, {"text": "lighting in established neighborhoods uh but there are criteria that are available for that next", "start": 656.32, "end": 663.519}, {"text": "slide so the next two slides I have one here on Recreation and then on libraries this is where I'll probably spend most", "start": 663.519, "end": 669.72}, {"text": "of my time here and and we can absolutely come back to this if there are any uh questions here these slides", "start": 669.72, "end": 675.44}, {"text": "focus on major capital projects necessary to meet the needs of a population of nearly 443,000 people", "start": 675.44, "end": 682.399}, {"text": "within the town by 2051 we're aware that new population forecasts are now emerging uh fortunately the plans growth", "start": 682.399, "end": 689.839}, {"text": "related recommendations are all linked to population thresholds not to time so", "start": 689.839, "end": 695.12}, {"text": "if if you're growing faster this can be accelerated if you're going slower it can be", "start": 695.12, "end": 700.88}, {"text": "decelerated and um it all comes back to ensuring that equity and and", "start": 700.88, "end": 706.839}, {"text": "distribution and that the needs are all tie back to capacity uh and population", "start": 706.839, "end": 712.6}, {"text": "thresholds that are Advanced within the plan so it is a very much a living document and adjustments can be made if", "start": 712.6, "end": 719.639}, {"text": "forecasts do change so eight different items on this particular list focus on", "start": 719.639, "end": 725.04}, {"text": "Recreation facilities again based on that um 26 27 year time Horizon and that", "start": 725.04, "end": 732.959}, {"text": "population of nearly 443,000 people item number one is really beginning to plan for um an expansion and revitalization", "start": 732.959, "end": 741.199}, {"text": "of Glen Abby community center this is a Workhorse of of your Recreation system", "start": 741.199, "end": 746.72}, {"text": "it's something that's um is well used and and continues to be in high demand", "start": 746.72, "end": 752.639}, {"text": "and will require a refresh over time the plan itself does speak to some specific opportunities on site this would require", "start": 752.639, "end": 759.56}, {"text": "additional architectural um analysis to to further flush that out uh item number", "start": 759.56, "end": 765.48}, {"text": "two here is expanding the Ser John coborn Recreation Center the idea of adding a gymnasium and some more program", "start": 765.48, "end": 771.68}, {"text": "space again is is an opportunity that's been identified in the plan and there's some preliminary concept to move that", "start": 771.68, "end": 778.199}, {"text": "forward that's something that we would like to see in the the near term um some", "start": 778.199, "end": 783.36}, {"text": "of these items I will mention are currently unfunded that's where your budget comes in so you're not um if", "start": 783.36, "end": 788.72}, {"text": "you're approving this today you're not approving every project uh in its entirety you're approving it in", "start": 788.72, "end": 794.32}, {"text": "principle to be referred back to your financial capabilities and Partnerships and other considerations that would go", "start": 794.32, "end": 800.48}, {"text": "along uh with that item number three and this is in your your long-term your current 10year capital forecast is a new", "start": 800.48, "end": 807.399}, {"text": "neighborhood community center and library in the pmo uh Village area that's being coordinated with your", "start": 807.399, "end": 812.88}, {"text": "Transit Village uh items number four and seven are talking about twin pad Arenas", "start": 812.88, "end": 819.399}, {"text": "and and multipad Arenas offer efficiency to the town offer efficiency and convenience to users um these are linked", "start": 819.399, "end": 826.68}, {"text": "to other recommendations to um reenv re-envision and reimagine your your", "start": 826.68, "end": 832.32}, {"text": "remaining two single pad Standalone uh facilities in Cano and and Maple Grove", "start": 832.32, "end": 837.92}, {"text": "so uh not looking to necessarily add without some adjustments to the supply", "start": 837.92, "end": 843.759}, {"text": "but trying to get the town ready to make sure that uh these facilities continue to serve the needs for the next you know", "start": 843.759, "end": 851.32}, {"text": "27 to to 50 years and Beyond so those uh items four and seven", "start": 851.32, "end": 857.639}, {"text": "are linked to that there are no land uh there's no not currently any sites identified for that but that's where the", "start": 857.639, "end": 864.12}, {"text": "master plan comes in to plant the flag and talk about the need to do uh to do so I number five is a revitalization of", "start": 864.12, "end": 871.759}, {"text": "of and we're really post 10year now um into into the well into the 2030s", "start": 871.759, "end": 877.56}, {"text": "revitalizing expanding River Oaks Community Center much like the discussion around Glenn Abbey and and", "start": 877.56, "end": 883.36}, {"text": "the ability to add a library to that site uh number six as growth uh", "start": 883.36, "end": 888.399}, {"text": "continues to move north along the troger corridor this would be a multi-use", "start": 888.399, "end": 893.959}, {"text": "community center uh in the troger urban core South area this is something that", "start": 893.959, "end": 899.44}, {"text": "would contain a number of items indoor pools potentially a 25 M 10 Lane uh", "start": 899.44, "end": 904.72}, {"text": "indoor pool for added capacity Plus uh warm up or a warm water tank gymnasiums", "start": 904.72, "end": 909.759}, {"text": "fitness center activity rooms um many aspects of which you'd have you'd be familiar with through uh several of your", "start": 909.759, "end": 916.16}, {"text": "community centers and then item number eight would be uh closer to our 2051 time frame uh", "start": 916.16, "end": 922.839}, {"text": "but still building out and more of a localized Center uh long troger Urban uh", "start": 922.839, "end": 927.92}, {"text": "Corridor nor North troger Urban core North sorry um and again that's uh need", "start": 927.92, "end": 936}, {"text": "need the U site and and a partner uh likely for for several of those next", "start": 936, "end": 942.319}, {"text": "slide I mentioned libraries a few times you'll noticed that many of these Community Building initiatives are are", "start": 942.319, "end": 948.16}, {"text": "linked uh between Recreation and Library we heard from the public that these are models that work really well that they'd", "start": 948.16, "end": 954.279}, {"text": "like to see Advanced wherever possible in some cases it's not but in many cases it is and and should be so this is the", "start": 954.279, "end": 960.959}, {"text": "provision model strategy that was presented to the library board on o October 17th again uh has that 2051 uh", "start": 960.959, "end": 968.88}, {"text": "Vision uh population 443,000 um item number one here and and this has", "start": 968.88, "end": 975.8}, {"text": "been an ongoing initiative and and is is moving forward under this term of council replacement of the the Central", "start": 975.8, 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"considered whether it be in the village QP and and probably and more than likely Ally considering opportunities um or", "start": 1074.48, "end": 1081.559}, {"text": "service in in around the Woodside area as well number four was poo that's a", "start": 1081.559, "end": 1086.84}, {"text": "library branch that's linked to the community center I spoke to earlier um Midtown this is um we were we took a", "start": 1086.84, "end": 1095.44}, {"text": "closer look at this and um certainly heard opinions from from the library board and Council and as that secondary", "start": 1095.44, "end": 1101.44}, {"text": "plan has evolved recognizing there's no Community core uh there's no Central", "start": 1101.44, "end": 1106.88}, {"text": "Public Gathering Place indoor with within that community so the recommendation is um to develop u a", "start": 1106.88, "end": 1114.919}, {"text": "library and Community Hub that would serve as a gathering and meeting space complete with local library services", 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Chisum and dck to", "start": 1376.64, "end": 1382.44}, {"text": "for starters councelor Elgar uh thank you through May Burton uh", "start": 1382.44, "end": 1387.6}, {"text": "thanks for the report I just everything in the report is based on population", "start": 1387.6, "end": 1392.88}, {"text": "that projections is that correct uh through you Mr Mayor not", "start": 1392.88, "end": 1399.12}, {"text": "solely um there there are sever several items uh we look at GE", "start": 1399.12, "end": 1404.52}, {"text": "geography uh we look at Trends we look at public imp put we look at condition", "start": 1404.52, "end": 1410.08}, {"text": "and quality of of existing but in terms of growth related yes uh we want to make sure that facilities are are able to", "start": 1410.08, "end": 1418.08}, {"text": "serve the needs of of a growing population when they uh come into your community and um that that they're in", "start": 1418.08, "end": 1426.2}, {"text": "place uh from that perspective yeah I noticed you kept using the term the number for population", "start": 1426.2, "end": 1432.24}, {"text": "of 443,000 uh like that I guess a projection but that has not been", "start": 1432.24, "end": 1437.48}, {"text": "approved by councel I guess that's why what earlier on I heard you say it'll be based on the projections of population", "start": 1437.48, "end": 1444.159}, {"text": "that's what I just want to confirm So the plan itself when I was presenting the maps for the the bigger", "start": 1444.159, "end": 1450.48}, {"text": "ticket items as well as the the summary on the last couple slides where it talked to needs yes that is based on", "start": 1450.48, "end": 1456.36}, {"text": "443,000 uh growth related items are based on that but the plan itself has", "start": 1456.36, "end": 1462.159}, {"text": "that flexibility so it talks about when you hit 300,000 when you hit 350,000", "start": 1462.159, "end": 1467.24}, {"text": "400,000 these are the types of facilities that would deliver upon those needs may not", "start": 1467.24, "end": 1472.44}, {"text": "some of these may not happen until after 2051 or it could happen quicker and it's all based on uh those planning targets", "start": 1472.44, "end": 1479.48}, {"text": "that layer in um population that reflects back on on timing and and", "start": 1479.48, "end": 1484.84}, {"text": "geography and things of that nature well I I think that was a very good plan you had because say we Council does not", "start": 1484.84, "end": 1491.799}, {"text": "approve the 443 it goes back in the mid 350s or something then everything still works with what you're doing here so I", "start": 1491.799, "end": 1499.12}, {"text": "thank you very much for the for the what you've done for all the work you've done on it thank you thank you counselor", "start": 1499.12, "end": 1505.6}, {"text": "councelor om um thank you very much for uh um for", "start": 1505.6, "end": 1510.96}, {"text": "the presentation I'm just C pardon me struggling a bit today um I'm just TR", "start": 1510.96, "end": 1516.84}, {"text": "I'm curious as to where the numbers of things per population or things per", "start": 1516.84, "end": 1523.36}, {"text": "radius or distance I mean where does the the the pedagogy come from that from or", "start": 1523.36, "end": 1528.48}, {"text": "or where where does the the you know the thresholds to that's what makes a", "start": 1528.48, "end": 1533.919}, {"text": "complete Community if you have a basketball court one kilometer away from people or a swimming pool so and you had", "start": 1533.919, "end": 1540.36}, {"text": "a bunch of those slides about total po where does that derive from uh great questions for you Mr Mayor", "start": 1540.36, "end": 1547.679}, {"text": "um so the town of Oakville has been doing this planning since uh 200 and um", "start": 1547.679, "end": 1553.72}, {"text": "six if I'm not mistaken and even before then and many communities do use these planning targets uh so we've been", "start": 1553.72, "end": 1560.36}, {"text": "testing these targets as as we've gone along with these Master plans to make sure that they they respond to needs we", "start": 1560.36, "end": 1566.08}, {"text": "talked to the public we talk about willingness to travel how far how long they want to go for certain things uh", "start": 1566.08, "end": 1571.799}, {"text": "different items different amenities have different catchment areas if you want something that's more of a local park amenity like a playground we know that's", "start": 1571.799, "end": 1578.36}, {"text": "going to be a smaller Circle we know the the bigger ticket or our higher order facilities like indoor pools are going", "start": 1578.36, "end": 1584.84}, {"text": "to be a greater willingness to travel um so we look at your current level of", "start": 1584.84, "end": 1590.2}, {"text": "service we look at the current level of service in other Benchmark communities so what's being offered in Moga", "start": 1590.2, "end": 1595.919}, {"text": "Burlington Milton and others how does the town stack up against that and we", "start": 1595.919, "end": 1601.44}, {"text": "rate that against what the community has said their their satisfaction is with say the current level of of", "start": 1601.44, "end": 1607}, {"text": "participation so there's no one uh proven metric that works for every Community across the province uh these", "start": 1607, "end": 1614.159}, {"text": "are made in Oakville but tested against other communities uh uh to to arrive at", "start": 1614.159, "end": 1619.96}, {"text": "them so can we can we know how we stack up against some of the other communities", "start": 1619.96, "end": 1625.72}, {"text": "with regards to what the population proportions are or radius um", "start": 1625.72, "end": 1632.36}, {"text": "because I mean I I I agree with you that that speaks to the service level that we have here in Oakville and and obviously", "start": 1632.36, "end": 1638.64}, {"text": 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1682.72}, {"text": "brought up on on slide 13 14 15 with regards to population or areas but how", "start": 1682.72, "end": 1687.84}, {"text": "are we looking to address um maybe their needs and and and where they might be", "start": 1687.84, "end": 1692.88}, {"text": "left behind knowing full well that we can't change our service levels for the whole town but we have to recognize", "start": 1692.88, "end": 1699.64}, {"text": "these Enclave areas uh thank you counselor uh through you Mr Mayor I will point out before we", "start": 1699.64, "end": 1705.72}, {"text": "get started if um that there are in in there's an appendix in the summary document uh there's a column that talks", "start": 1705.72, "end": 1712.2}, {"text": "about that benchmarking rate so we've looked at area municipalities so you can see how you do stack up if if you're", "start": 1712.2, "end": 1717.48}, {"text": "interested there um and and we can direct you to page 78 at least on on my", "start": 1717.48, "end": 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here but I I would like staff to take a look", "start": 1838.519, "end": 1844.279}, {"text": "again at at the lak sherwoods area because there's nothing in the future going forward for that area there's no", "start": 1844.279, "end": 1850.279}, {"text": "building no bricks no mortars in there's one little strip Plaza that we had talked about doing the same thing we did", "start": 1850.279, "end": 1855.76}, {"text": "in clear viiew about a little Library branch at one point and that just keeps getting", "start": 1855.76, "end": 1861.399}, {"text": "gobbled up and all the land around there is almost done so I might leave that with staff if uh if they don't mind", "start": 1861.399, "end": 1867.279}, {"text": "coming back with something but thank you again for all your work it was a a lengthy and great report thank you counselor counselor", "start": 1867.279, "end": 1874.279}, {"text": "Chisum thank you worship through you um yes a report is very comprehensive and", "start": 1874.279, "end": 1879.36}, {"text": "uh congratulations it it is a very uh uh in-depth report and getting through it um it's like Christmas it's a wish list", "start": 1879.36, "end": 1886.2}, {"text": "for the next 25 years what we're going to put in Oakville and hopefully uh you know when you said you're being very", "start": 1886.2, "end": 1891.88}, {"text": "cautious about the budget allocations to these uh uh facilities and so forth uh", "start": 1891.88, "end": 1897.44}, {"text": "the the strength of of this report is is I'm when I'm reading is on the facility side and uh um I want to uh speak to um", "start": 1897.44, "end": 1905.519}, {"text": "the the service delivery side and we'll just hold that thought for a second with respect to um uh the decommissioning I", "start": 1905.519, "end": 1913.679}, {"text": "use the word decommission that's I guess my my um language on this one is the pools the outdoor pools uh in sou in", "start": 1913.679, "end": 1921.08}, {"text": "South Oakville uh which is uh three of them and uh looking at uh fogwood in the", "start": 1921.08, "end": 1926.519}, {"text": "future and what we do with that repurposing repurposing my my concern is this is that the comments were made that", "start": 1926.519, "end": 1933.639}, {"text": "uh it's a tradeoff closing these pools because of age facilities uh brings in", "start": 1933.639, "end": 1938.96}, {"text": "this uh word and I need to understand it maybe you can help me understand it destination uh destination um uh", "start": 1938.96, "end": 1946.279}, {"text": "facility could you qualify or quantify what that means uh when you're closing", "start": 1946.279, "end": 1951.799}, {"text": "down outdoor pools thank you through you Mr Mayor um", "start": 1951.799, "end": 1958.44}, {"text": "so I I'll just back up and provide just a little bit more context if I could for the conversation uh currently the the", "start": 1958.44, "end": 1964.96}, {"text": "municipality owns and operates five outdoor pools um we've been seeing and", "start": 1964.96, "end": 1970}, {"text": "are definitely aware of of many communities that have been grappling with decisions around these as they become um as they need more and more", "start": 1970, "end": 1977.48}, {"text": "dollars for for overall it's beyond maintenance it's it's Capital uh Redevelopment of these assets um so the", "start": 1977.48, "end": 1988}, {"text": "recommendation in the plan is uh to undertake an outdoor pool modernization strategy this is something that would", "start": 1988, "end": 1993.48}, {"text": "start with uh public input and be built off of public input but it's a matter of", "start": 1993.48, "end": 1998.96}, {"text": "looking at those five sites and saying are we going to continue to invest in these pools as they are um you know", "start": 1998.96, "end": 2005.6}, {"text": "which means continue you know patch and repair um tanks lines change rooms or do we", "start": 2005.6, "end": 2012.32}, {"text": "start looking to um reimagine them um and when when it comes to reimagine", "start": 2012.32, "end": 2019.24}, {"text": "reimagination uh to use that term it does come with it possibly a trade-off or you know if Council wants five brand", "start": 2019.24, "end": 2025.639}, {"text": "new pools that are going to last another 50 years that that's council's discretion uh and opportunity uh or do", "start": 2025.639, "end": 2031.76}, {"text": "we look at consolidating some of those into fewer sites which would offer um", "start": 2031.76, "end": 2038.08}, {"text": "which would offer potential to serve more neighborhoods in the north say through through a new pool that's", "start": 2038.08, "end": 2043.559}, {"text": "somewhere north of uh in in the north end of town or not um so right because", "start": 2043.559, "end": 2049.52}, {"text": "right now they're all clustered largely around um South Oakville and and Ki and so on to your question around what", "start": 2049.52, "end": 2057.118}, {"text": "a 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3801.4, "end": 3806.44}, {"text": "heartfelt gratitude to the town for your partnership in providing us with the wonderful ninth line SCI since", "start": 3806.44, "end": 3812.88}, {"text": "1983 and for the ongoing support we've received in those intervening years we cherish our club our home and the rich", "start": 3812.88, "end": 3819.72}, {"text": "history we've built for the benefit of Oakville together but the real the reality is that we urgently need more", "start": 3819.72, "end": 3826.4}, {"text": "fields and updated facilities uh to accommodate our growth and fully support all our", "start": 3826.4, "end": 3832.2}, {"text": "members we're looking forward to partnering with the town to address those needs as soon as we possibly can", "start": 3832.2, "end": 3837.839}, {"text": "uh and with that I'll turn it over to Chris Warren our vice president who will share a little bit more about why we're here tonight thank you very much for", "start": 3837.839, "end": 3844.44}, {"text": "your time thank you very much Chris and thank you mayor and Council for giving us the", "start": 3844.44, "end": 3850.279}, {"text": "opportunity to come and uh and speak with you and uh and speak to you about the um the wonderful Visionary master", "start": 3850.279, "end": 3855.52}, {"text": "plan that you've uh presented here tonight um I want to thank staff as well uh for your hard work and effort um it's", "start": 3855.52, "end": 3861.2}, {"text": "been a wonderful and engaging uh very thoughtful process uh that's led us here to this evening as well so thank you thank you to the the staff and the", "start": 3861.2, "end": 3867.559}, {"text": "consulting firm as well Consultants always uh always a pleasure um our clubhouse was built in 1983 and as Chris", "start": 3867.559, "end": 3874.599}, {"text": "said um you know just a bit of context that was a time when our club served 150 male members we've changed and evolved", "start": 3874.599, "end": 3882.4}, {"text": "considerably 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partnership over the years and uh hopefield has been", "start": 4711.719, "end": 4718.44}, {"text": "fantastic to us so we want to start by saying that uh thank you for again for allowing me the opportunity to speak as", "start": 4718.44, "end": 4724.76}, {"text": "we look to the future of the Oakville Crusaders Rugby Club I want to share our vision for developing modern facilities that align with our growing programs and", "start": 4724.76, "end": 4731.4}, {"text": "our community needs at Crusaders we offer a wide range of programs which include 15 aside rugby seven aside rugby", "start": 4731.4, "end": 4738.28}, {"text": "touch rugby that caters to young players and those who are young at heart we host summer camps which you would have heard", "start": 4738.28, "end": 4744.199}, {"text": "about previously uh for local kids offseason and indoor programming and shoulder season activities our club", "start": 4744.199, "end": 4751.92}, {"text": "operates at standard that would be considered semi-professional in many areas of the world uh we have outstanding players who", "start": 4751.92, "end": 4759.44}, {"text": "play professionally who then come back to Oakville and play with the club in the summertime our our facilities have not", "start": 4759.44, "end": 4765.639}, {"text": "kept up with these players however in comparison to rugby clubs that are considered to be", "start": 4765.639, "end": 4771.28}, {"text": "semi-professional in countries like Australia Argentina France Ireland the United Kingdom they benefit from", "start": 4771.28, "end": 4777.88}, {"text": "facilities that include separate change room for men women officials on-site strength and conditioning facilities", "start": 4777.88, "end": 4784.159}, {"text": "athlete treatment and Recovery areas and Community rooms for receptions training and educational events these facilities", "start": 4784.159, "end": 4791.04}, {"text": "also allow for easy match broadcasting and can accommodate additional 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4832}, {"text": "potentially national teams and to host International tours providing a destination for international players to", "start": 4832, "end": 4837.88}, {"text": "come and visit our great Community the greater Toronto area West including Hamilton Burlington and Peele", "start": 4837.88, "end": 4845.36}, {"text": "is a hotbed for rugby yet the area lacks a facility where we can bring these communities together and compete in a", "start": 4845.36, "end": 4851.88}, {"text": "healthy fashion economically as mentioned we we host several large tournaments each year attracting hundreds of a athletes and their", "start": 4851.88, "end": 4858.199}, {"text": "families with a larger and more modern facility we can certainly grow these events in previous years we've hosted", "start": 4858.199, "end": 4864.96}, {"text": "senior men's international teams who trained in our community including Wales", "start": 4864.96, "end": 4870.159}, {"text": "Ireland Japan as well as the Canadian men's and women's teams unfortunately rugby Canada has ceased sending", "start": 4870.159, "end": 4876.12}, {"text": "International sides to Oakville due to the conditions of our Fields primarily and our clubhouse as it ages a modern", "start": 4876.12, "end": 4883.32}, {"text": "facility would not only enhance our current offering but allow us to bid for prestigious events including men's and", "start": 4883.32, "end": 4888.96}, {"text": "women's age grade matches International matches as well as senior tours and World under 20 tournaments in closing", "start": 4888.96, "end": 4896.32}, {"text": "we're excited about the possibility that modern facilities can bring to our club in our community we look forward to", "start": 4896.32, "end": 4902.08}, {"text": "working with the town to make this Vision a reality ensuring our club continues to thrive as a hub for rugby", "start": 4902.08, "end": 4907.84}, {"text": "and Oakville thank you for your time and your consideration and I believe Chris will be available for any questions that", "start": 4907.84, "end": 4913.8}, {"text": "Council or the mayor would have and thank you again thank you very much for the coordinated teamwork and the", "start": 4913.8, "end": 4920.199}, {"text": "information you have questions from uh uh one of our star athletes here on", "start": 4920.199, "end": 4925.679}, {"text": "Council councelor Chisum and uh another uh renowned athlete councelor omira", "start": 4925.679, "end": 4931.719}, {"text": "let's go with Ray first Ray thank you worship um good presentation uh your presentation really fulfills the whole", "start": 4931.719, "end": 4939.96}, {"text": "community of rugby in Oakville and the idea I think the word was uh destination", "start": 4939.96, "end": 4946.04}, {"text": "and uh International and tourism uh sport tourism I think it's all important", "start": 4946.04, "end": 4951.56}, {"text": "uh for Oakville and I think that's an important facet knowing the facilities that we built like um 16 and uh we have", "start": 4951.56, "end": 4959.08}, {"text": "relationships and Partnerships with uh the Oakville soccer club we have Partnerships with aquatic clubs um I", "start": 4959.08, "end": 4966.48}, {"text": "guess the question I'm asking um this seems like a big big um challenge that you're bringing forward now I know this", "start": 4966.48, "end": 4973.159}, {"text": "is a master plan but have you had any exploratory meetings with with senior staff with respect to what your goals", "start": 4973.159, "end": 4979.04}, {"text": "are or do you have a master plan is there anything anything been done to this point um what you what you're", "start": 4979.04, "end": 4985.8}, {"text": "asking for is very I call topshelf stuff and I I want to know if we've had any", "start": 4985.8, "end": 4991.4}, {"text": "negotiations or any exploratory meetings with staff have we had that at this point in time through you Mr Mayor yes", "start": 4991.4, "end": 4998.8}, {"text": "we have 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{"text": "Etc the mayor Burton to uh councelor house a theal that is the the the", "start": 5804.6, "end": 5810.119}, {"text": "quintessential question for us is how we now uh manage the workload priorities that", "start": 5810.119, "end": 5815.719}, {"text": "come out of this master plan so the first shoe to drop is to have approval from Council it is then incoming on us", "start": 5815.719, "end": 5822.159}, {"text": "to look at the short-term priorities and stack them up some of them will be driven by opportunity um so what's the", "start": 5822.159, "end": 5828.52}, {"text": "most immediate opportunity that we can advance some of it will be outlined by our ability to Resource and some of", "start": 5828.52, "end": 5835.159}, {"text": "these fall in a very logical sequential order so that's a that's a complicated", "start": 5835.159, "end": 5840.6}, {"text": "answer to how do we manage our work plan coming out of this this but in terms of the Crusaders um the Crusaders needs I", 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as you frame that you know there's there's some that come easier some that are going to", "start": 5889.88, "end": 5895.84}, {"text": "come harder some that might have resource some that may not I guess my direct question is do you see it as a", "start": 5895.84, "end": 5902.719}, {"text": "higher priority item or what do you need from Council to help with the prioritization of all these high", "start": 5902.719, "end": 5908.96}, {"text": "priority items I think if we could come back on that councelor has a theal because I think what we need to look at", "start": 5908.96, "end": 5915.719}, {"text": "is again we've given some thought to the the elements of this master plan that", "start": 5915.719, "end": 5920.88}, {"text": "need to move first because it's a concurrent nature to some of these activities um we can come back with some", "start": 5920.88, "end": 5928.599}, {"text": "clarity as part of our work planning uh for 2025 and outline some of the those", "start": 5928.599, "end": 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welcome Council looks forward to your", "start": 5976.44, "end": 5981.639}, {"text": "input good evening mayor Burton and Town Council I've spoken previously about BR", "start": 5987.88, "end": 5993.679}, {"text": "uh Bron's uh density and its impact on livability and tonight through that same", "start": 5993.679, "end": 5999.28}, {"text": "lens of live livability and density which now includes four development projects currently under construction", "start": 5999.28, "end": 6006.04}, {"text": "adding some 500 new residential housing units and a three block area I'd like to", "start": 6006.04, "end": 6011.159}, {"text": "speak to the parks recks and Library master plan first closing the Bronte", "start": 6011.159, "end": 6016.8}, {"text": "pool at the end of its life will not contribute to the livability of this community choosing it as a potential new", "start": 6016.8, "end": 6024}, {"text": "destination pool absorbing other end of Life Pools is not terribly prudent", "start": 6024, "end": 6029.28}, {"text": "either why would we draw additional traffic to an area in which lack of adequate adequate public parking is", "start": 6029.28, "end": 6037.239}, {"text": "already a major major issue this pool's location would not be an ideal location", "start": 6037.239, "end": 6042.8}, {"text": "for a destination pool for that reason we would rather see the pool be", "start": 6042.8, "end": 6048.36}, {"text": "renovated to include the latest technology available today serving not just children and adults but the elderly", "start": 6048.36, "end": 6055.199}, {"text": "as well the pool could become the new standard for not just smart technology", "start": 6055.199, "end": 6060.239}, {"text": "but incorporating into the design the adaptability for different ages and", "start": 6060.239, "end": 6065.639}, {"text": "Mobility second what will it take to get a library in the village can we", "start": 6065.639, "end": 6070.76}, {"text": "incorporate the need for Library space into Bron's future cpps or should we be opportunistic and", "start": 6070.76, "end": 6079.119}, {"text": "proactive now and not wait for cpps in the future to eval valuate potential", "start": 6079.119, "end": 6084.56}, {"text": "Library spaces why are we even speaking about libraries in the age of the internet and", "start": 6084.56, "end": 6091}, {"text": "Google are they even relevant today the International Federation of Library", "start": 6091, "end": 6096.96}, {"text": "associations have since 1995 been focused on precisely that question and", "start": 6096.96, "end": 6102.84}, {"text": "despite all the Prophecies of Doom this has not happened at the very same time", "start": 6102.84, "end": 6108.199}, {"text": "we are witnessing a Renaissance for the physical Library according to rasmuson", "start": 6108.199, "end": 6113.239}, {"text": "and Jacobson in a 2009 Danish study speaking of the internet quote it", "start": 6113.239, "end": 6119.96}, {"text": "does not destroy the library but liberates it into providing new kinds of Public Services attracting a potential", "start": 6119.96, "end": 6126.599}, {"text": "new audience end quote this according to British Library architect Brian Edwards", "start": 6126.599, "end": 6132.52}, {"text": "Edwards goes on to say quote we see a less passive collection of books and other media to be an active space for", "start": 6132.52, "end": 6139.599}, {"text": "experience and inspiration and a local meeting point end quote the American", "start": 6139.599, "end": 6145.119}, {"text": "Library associ the American Library Association calls this from collection", "start": 6145.119, "end": 6150.8}, {"text": "to connection these comments are supported by the Danish four space model", "start": 6150.8, "end": 6156.639}, {"text": "describing the new the new local library profile as a culture center a Knowledge", "start": 6156.639, "end": 6162.199}, {"text": "Center a social Center and an information center these are the centers that relate to specific sectors in the", "start": 6162.199, "end": 6169}, {"text": "local community the future Library designed for Bronte should be views should be", "start": 6169, "end": 6175.239}, {"text": "viewed as another public gathering Space Incorporated into the library design a", "start": 6175.239, "end": 6181.159}, {"text": "place where the public can gather to meet and share a conversation meeting in larger groups or simply enjoying a", "start": 6181.159, "end": 6187.88}, {"text": "coffee while reading this approach contributes to not just the livability of Bronte but promotes The Village as", "start": 6187.88, "end": 6195.28}, {"text": "both walkable and easily accessible the future Library must reside in Bronte and", "start": 6195.28, "end": 6201.92}, {"text": "finally when we telescope out from the bronti pool complex we see the football field to the South used for both", "start": 6201.92, "end": 6209.08}, {"text": "Canadian and European football and the baseball diamond to the West is the East VI Athletic Field which the town", "start": 6209.08, "end": 6216}, {"text": "maintains along with the tennis courts in a small abandoned Town building instead of viewing these as separate", "start": 6216, "end": 6222.159}, {"text": "elements of recreation or sport we need to see them through the lens of livability how might we reimagine this", "start": 6222.159, "end": 6229.52}, {"text": "entire area how can this space be animated for future Generations calling Brony home I'm not here tonight to", "start": 6229.52, "end": 6237.48}, {"text": "suggest its future rather I would ask the consideration be given to a future", "start": 6237.48, "end": 6243.08}, {"text": "staff report for this area and a corresponding open house to be conducted to let the local residents weigh in on", "start": 6243.08, "end": 6249.92}, {"text": "how this valuable real estate be uh envisioned or optimized for future Bronte", "start": 6249.92, "end": 6256.239}, {"text": "Generations as we continue to grow for as we continue to prepare for growth", "start": 6256.239, "end": 6261.44}, {"text": "both now which is currently underway and in the future our vision our planning", "start": 6261.44, "end": 6266.639}, {"text": "and our commitment to see it to fruition will impact future Generations I thank", "start": 6266.639, "end": 6271.92}, {"text": "you for your time thank you very much Mr Shay councelor MCN has a question for you", "start": 6271.92, "end": 6277.52}, {"text": "thank you through your worship and uh thank you Harry for your delegation um agree with you on the Bron Athletic", "start": 6277.52, "end": 6283.8}, {"text": "Complex there and that's something I didn't see in the many pages of uh reports there um because I think there's", "start": 6283.8, "end": 6290.4}, {"text": "a real opportunity as you mentioned with the spaces around it and thinking of how those things integrate so we've got the", "start": 6290.4, "end": 6296.04}, {"text": "pool to the north the athletic fields that get well used we've got uh to the", "start": 6296.04, "end": 6301.36}, {"text": "West East View school and their sort of sports fields that we maintain but at night is where we have sort of Youth", "start": 6301.36, "end": 6307.56}, {"text": "problems and getting more eyes on the street for stuff like that's really valuable then we have some Town tennis", "start": 6307.56, "end": 6313.199}, {"text": "courts that you can you couldn't get to the athletic field from there without kind of going through a swamp um I", "start": 6313.199, "end": 6319.599}, {"text": "wonder if we could ask staff if if as you suggested sort of a uh I guess it", "start": 6319.599, "end": 6325.92}, {"text": "would be an optimization and enhancement um plan for the Brony", "start": 6325.92, "end": 6331.84}, {"text": "Athletic Field I wonder if I if that can be included or I know it's been mentioned a few times but I don't see it", "start": 6331.84, "end": 6337.239}, {"text": "in the report counselor um any two members of council can", "start": 6337.239, "end": 6343.8}, {"text": "request a report and uh the tradition here is the rest of council approves the", "start": 6343.8, "end": 6349.639}, {"text": "request uh I would recommend that you uh resort to that proven tool can I do it", "start": 6349.639, "end": 6356.52}, {"text": "today's meeting or does that wait till Council you need to wait for Council okay but it's not that long you'll", "start": 6356.52, "end": 6361.92}, {"text": "remember okay I'm uh just just uh just so staff knows what's coming I'm happy", "start": 6361.92, "end": 6367.599}, {"text": "to do that and I think thinking about thinking about it through the lens of this great plan would would be", "start": 6367.599, "end": 6372.96}, {"text": "beneficial as well um and just thinking about the neighborhood pool so I know", "start": 6372.96, "end": 6378.119}, {"text": "there's we've heard from many counselors um you know they're sort of the optimization of 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6468.84, "end": 6476.56}, {"text": "rest of this", "start": 6476.56, "end": 6479.159}, {"text": "agenda um and uh at the request of the incoming chair we're going to have a", "start": 6481.92, "end": 6487.56}, {"text": "five minute recess so uh use it wisely thank", "start": 6487.56, "end": 6493.04}, {"text": "you ladies and gentlemen I'm calling this meeting back progress thank you I'm calling this me meeting back to order", "start": 6494.32, "end": 6501.4}, {"text": "and uh Madam Clerk I understand we have two more delegations to hear this evening uh yes we actually have three", "start": 6501.4, "end": 6507.76}, {"text": "three I'm sorry yep that's okay the first one is David Harris Mr Harris are", "start": 6507.76, "end": 6512.88}, {"text": "you", "start": 6512.88, "end": 6515.118}, {"text": "here okay let's uh put him at the bottom and come back to him then who's next he not is he online by any chance", "start": 6518, "end": 6526.36}, {"text": "David Harris oh there he is right there", "start": 6526.36, "end": 6533.52}, {"text": "no problem you have 10 minutes", "start": 6533.52, "end": 6538.159}, {"text": "okay acting mayor and councel uh I'd like to make a couple", "start": 6545.04, "end": 6551.8}, {"text": "comments I don't have a a lot to say but uh first of all uh I like the mon teeth", "start": 6551.8, "end": 6558.76}, {"text": "Brown plan it's very comprehensive and informative and it's nice to seear that they're from", "start": 6558.76, "end": 6564.52}, {"text": "London Ontario as opposed to Australia like some governments use um my name is David Harris I own a", "start": 6564.52, "end": 6573.96}, {"text": "company who manufactures electronic scoreboards and uh we travel all over", "start": 6573.96, "end": 6581.76}, {"text": "Canada uh so I've seen hundreds of Arenas gymnasiums and uh I've interacted", "start": 6581.76, "end": 6588.48}, {"text": "with all kinds of people we've done new builds we've done existing Arenas uh", "start": 6588.48, "end": 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have the kind", "start": 6890.32, "end": 6896.92}, {"text": "of scale of community center you heard tonight um that the 45,000 population requires or is it um", "start": 6896.92, "end": 6905.76}, {"text": "some level of change uh adaptation to uh", "start": 6905.76, "end": 6910.96}, {"text": "to a building or uh the library in Clear View I just I want to be I want Council", "start": 6910.96, "end": 6917.239}, {"text": "to be clear what what you and um and who you may be speaking for", "start": 6917.239, "end": 6922.84}, {"text": "asking okay thanks for that that's a very important point because uh what I was thinking of in well my group in a", "start": 6922.84, "end": 6930.84}, {"text": "way is thinking of in uh relationship to this is something that could start off", "start": 6930.84, "end": 6936.679}, {"text": "small but we have the capability of expanding as you know that's a large property there it's a big piece of land", "start": 6936.679, "end": 6944.119}, {"text": "and if it is 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clear viw community at St Luke's and James W Hill or is that work", "start": 7185.8, "end": 7191.079}, {"text": "still being done I think we've done a little bit and I'm going to ask our acting director uh", "start": 7191.079, "end": 7197.079}, {"text": "Brent copelan to uh to step in if that's okay uh through you uh councelor null", "start": 7197.079, "end": 7206.32}, {"text": "um I will say that currently there is more of a partnership uh program we are", "start": 7206.32, "end": 7212.119}, {"text": "looking at right there those two facilities are used by uh through the community us of schools um for several", "start": 7212.119, "end": 7218.32}, {"text": "Community groups uh including the minor basketball special Olympic pickle ball and field hockey uh and you know just", "start": 7218.32, "end": 7225.679}, {"text": "following up on what counselor or uh commissioner damaso was saying I think you know action number four really", "start": 7225.679, "end": 7232.159}, {"text": "speaks to you know our approach to uh clear view in general looking at you", "start": 7232.159, "end": 7237.48}, {"text": "know the uh drafting the recreation program and service development framework to ensure that program provision is aligned with Community", "start": 7237.48, "end": 7244.4}, {"text": "priorities and meet standardized performance criteria so we will be looking at those you know perhaps under", "start": 7244.4, "end": 7250.8}, {"text": "served neighborhoods and and uh and looking to expand programming uh you", "start": 7250.8, "end": 7255.92}, {"text": "know within the uh facilities that exist now so probably looking at those uh", "start": 7255.92, "end": 7262.44}, {"text": "those school facilities thank you for that and so my last question on this is just um the", "start": 7262.44, "end": 7269.76}, {"text": "library is unavailable until 4 o'clock in the afternoon I believe is the time", "start": 7269.76, "end": 7275.8}, {"text": "and and I and I think we've all learned a 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{"text": "you to the council for your consideration staff for all your hard work as well as the planning that goes into something like this uh I won't take", "start": 7609.8, "end": 7616.32}, {"text": "up much of of your time uh tonight and I don't have a lot of specific asks or specific things to say other that we we", "start": 7616.32, "end": 7622}, {"text": "do support this plan um and a lot of the specific call call outs that the crusaders had as well um very quickly", "start": 7622, "end": 7628.76}, {"text": "item three in sport tourism um I believe that there's expanding opportunities in this space now the Oakville soccer club", "start": 7628.76, "end": 7634.8}, {"text": "has just acquired a league one license which is a semi-professional license competing in Ontario and League one has", "start": 7634.8, "end": 7640.84}, {"text": "expanded uh across the country and is in various provinces so there is National representation to be had", "start": 7640.84, "end": 7647}, {"text": "there fingers crossed assuming uh there's some winds in the books coming forward uh and I our vision for that and", "start": 7647, "end": 7654.52}, {"text": "our merger with the Blue Devils has always been a bit of a Friday Night Lights type of uh attraction where this", "start": 7654.52, "end": 7662.44}, {"text": "could be a really I think there is an opportunity to make this a community Centric not necessarily on a Friday", "start": 7662.44, "end": 7668.599}, {"text": "night but mightbe on a Sunday afternoon but to do this Town facilities uh with the town engaging this invested", "start": 7668.599, "end": 7675}, {"text": "membership we already have at the soccer club but also the town as a whole um and", "start": 7675, "end": 7680.159}, {"text": "I think Sports tourism that's very appealing and we'd like to be a part of that conversation and help to support that uh expand item six expanding", "start": 7680.159, "end": 7687.079}, {"text": "programming um and helping to identify gaps 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and field our fielded our frantic calls of gates not opening and all sorts", "start": 7894.48, "end": 7901.92}, {"text": "of other fun stuff that they love seeing our phone number pop up on their phone so and I do also want to mention that", "start": 7901.92, "end": 7908.88}, {"text": "the World Cup comes to Canada in 2026 and the soccer continues to be one of", "start": 7908.88, "end": 7914.28}, {"text": "the fastest growing Sports in North America it is the world's game it is a beautiful game it represents Community", "start": 7914.28, "end": 7921.36}, {"text": "inclusivity um it looks like our Our Town it looks like our Province it looks like our country it feels like it it is", "start": 7921.36, "end": 7927.84}, {"text": "a very safe place um for everyone and we strive to fulfill that but we will see", "start": 7927.84, "end": 7933.28}, {"text": "growth from that exponentially and most clubs I will confidently say are not prepared to take on that growth and", "start": 7933.28, 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"Glenn Abbey require Rehabilitation this would be a perfect opportunity to convert these courts to", "start": 8458.6, "end": 8465.84}, {"text": "up to 10 dedicated pickup ball courts this location has sufficient parking and", "start": 8465.84, "end": 8471.52}, {"text": "is adjacent to the community center and not located in close proximity to any", "start": 8471.52, "end": 8476.6}, {"text": "housing so noise complaints from local residents would not be in issue fourthly we um we would also", "start": 8476.6, "end": 8485.84}, {"text": "suggest that the town have their Consultants review the ratio of pickle ball to tennis courts at North Park for", "start": 8485.84, "end": 8492.8}, {"text": "future expansion to ensure that the ratio properly reflects today's Trends", "start": 8492.8, "end": 8498.92}, {"text": "we appreciate that the present master plan was developed a number of years ago and is noted um and as noted above", "start": 8498.92, "end": 8506.56}, {"text": "Trends are rapidly changing we all need to just we all need to strive to ensure that the limited", "start": 8506.56, "end": 8513.72}, {"text": "land we have is utilized to the fullest over the past few years the", "start": 8513.72, "end": 8519.479}, {"text": "Oakville pickleball Association has developed a great working relationship with Parks director Chris Mark and his", "start": 8519.479, "end": 8526.56}, {"text": "staff working with them on the ongoing refurbishment projects and new outdoor", "start": 8526.56, "end": 8532.12}, {"text": "projects we have a number of ideas and proposals to share with the town and we welcome the opportunity to work with the", "start": 8532.12, "end": 8539.319}, {"text": "town and their consultant to develop the proposed Rocket Sports strategy and see", "start": 8539.319, "end": 8544.64}, {"text": "these projects come to fruition an achievement that we can all be proud of", "start": 8544.64, "end": 8549.76}, {"text": "thank you for your time thank you very very much for your information you have some questions the", "start": 8549.76, "end": 8555.16}, {"text": "first up we have councelor dut thank you very much for your", "start": 8555.16, "end": 8560.52}, {"text": "delegation this evening and I can attest it is a very very growing sport we uh", "start": 8560.52, "end": 8568.359}, {"text": "Council Chism and I have met with many of our constituents who have been similar to what you were referencing", "start": 8568.359, "end": 8575.6}, {"text": "refurbishing existing courts to utilize to the best of our ability to Pivot and", "start": 8575.6, "end": 8582.08}, {"text": "I'm so glad you acknowledge Chris Mark and his team because they've done an excellent job of trying to facilitate", "start": 8582.08, "end": 8590.68}, {"text": "that change until this plan came into being so thank you for saying that um", "start": 8590.68, "end": 8597.96}, {"text": "just to give you a glimmer of hope um I have been working with a gentleman who", "start": 8597.96, "end": 8603.8}, {"text": "is currently looking at opening a facility in Oakville and so there there", "start": 8603.8, "end": 8610.319}, {"text": "are things a foot it might be something that the town can collaborate with them", "start": 8610.319, "end": 8615.72}, {"text": "but uh certainly we're going to be on the map just reassure you that okay", "start": 8615.72, "end": 8621.2}, {"text": "great news thank you thank you councelor dck uh councelor Adams thank you very", "start": 8621.2, "end": 8626.479}, {"text": "much I don't think there's any doubt that you've got the attention of all of council with respect to pickle ball um", "start": 8626.479, "end": 8631.76}, {"text": "it is a thing that I think every single one of us uh have been engaged with over the last few years uh and the only", "start": 8631.76, "end": 8638.399}, {"text": "question I have for you is is Oakville pickle ball the largest pickle ball organization in North America um because", "start": 8638.399, "end": 8645.68}, {"text": "it feels that way um uh through acting mayor um no to", "start": 8645.68, "end": 8653.72}, {"text": "uh councelor Adams no no there are um there are pick a ball", "start": 8653.72, "end": 8660.399}, {"text": "associations and clubs numerous um all over the province and all over the country of various", "start": 8660.399, "end": 8667.439}, {"text": "sizes perhaps that's something to Aspire to and you can line up with uh the soccer club and the Rugby Club", "start": 8667.439, "end": 8674.68}, {"text": "definitely thank you very much for your information I think that's all your questions this evening thank you thank you thank you for the opportunity thank", "start": 8674.68, "end": 8680.479}, {"text": "you very much uh Madam clerk do we have any more delegations yes okay so we come to that", "start": 8680.479, "end": 8687.6}, {"text": "moment when we ask the audience does anybody else have any information to uh pass on this evening going once twice three times", "start": 8687.6, "end": 8695.72}, {"text": "sold okay let's call up our uh consultant again and we'll resume our", "start": 8695.72, "end": 8700.88}, {"text": "questions and fastest on the button uh was councelor has ail so uh councelor", "start": 8700.88, "end": 8706.76}, {"text": "has ail you have the floor thanks through you uh acting mayor no um so my", "start": 8706.76, "end": 8713.6}, {"text": "other questions have been around um a couple historical ways we've made", "start": 8713.6, "end": 8719}, {"text": "decisions on Parks Rex and Library Master plans and there was a a passing", "start": 8719, "end": 8725.2}, {"text": "of in a previous Council of the phrase Fair geographic distribution of", "start": 8725.2, "end": 8730.479}, {"text": "community services and I noted on page 44 of the report you do reference equity", "start": 8730.479, "end": 8737.84}, {"text": "in terms of distribution um but that principle doesn't seem to be embedded in a", "start": 8737.84, "end": 8744.24}, {"text": "decisionmaking framework and I'm wondering is that um something that you", "start": 8744.24, "end": 8749.479}, {"text": "need us to move move an amendment for is there a reason it's not there um I think", "start": 8749.479, "end": 8755.52}, {"text": "the spirit of it is there but the actual um element of it being um a critical", "start": 8755.52, "end": 8762.24}, {"text": "part of the decision making doesn't seem to be highlighted uh thank you counselor", "start": 8762.24, "end": 8769.12}, {"text": "through you acting mayor uh I can assure you that um it is very much a key part", "start": 8769.12, "end": 8774.279}, {"text": "of of the overall decision-making criteria several of the uh if if dive", "start": 8774.279, "end": 8780.64}, {"text": "into especially some of the technical analysis you'll see when we're looking at uh facility locations facility needs", "start": 8780.64, "end": 8787.439}, {"text": "it is represented on there you'll see mapping with with theoretical catchment 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9254.479}, {"text": "taking all this our residents feedback and suggestion into account so to uh be", "start": 9254.479, "end": 9260.2}, {"text": "a far north counselor so I always advocate for more parks and trails and", "start": 9260.2, "end": 9266.88}, {"text": "the dog parks as well Chris know that so um I'm very happy to see all this a lot", "start": 9266.88, "end": 9273.96}, {"text": "of parties already put in this plan um really appreciate your team's effort to", "start": 9273.96, "end": 9280.64}, {"text": "making this Vision a reality and helping us to build a better place for our next", "start": 9280.64, "end": 9286.439}, {"text": "Generation to leave so I do have several question to clarify for the parks so on", "start": 9286.439, "end": 9294.12}, {"text": "action oh first first question talking about the Community Gardens So based on", "start": 9294.12, "end": 9299.88}, {"text": "the survey so we got a so this community garden is ranked the top four uh", "start": 9299.88, 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9361.359}, {"text": "be a need for them uh the recommendation does support additional uh spaces the", "start": 9361.359, "end": 9367.84}, {"text": "exact number is not laid out uh in part because there's there's many ways to", "start": 9367.84, "end": 9373.88}, {"text": "deliver on those opportunities and we want to be able to uh we want staff to", "start": 9373.88, "end": 9379.08}, {"text": "be able to do the site specific planning that's required for them they do have impacts they have to find always the", "start": 9379.08, "end": 9384.16}, {"text": "right locations and sometimes the right partner and and so recommendation action number uh 72 speaks to those", "start": 9384.16, "end": 9391.76}, {"text": "Partnerships the need for to focus on new sites and really to do this through the um a review of the town's policy and", "start": 9391.76, "end": 9401.88}, {"text": "and how those sites are esta not only established but how they're maintained moving forward right now I think", 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would you explain this event Park so is dedicated a minimum of two parks", "start": 9495.08, "end": 9501.479}, {"text": "to the event park with the focus on North Oakville so I'm just want to know what", "start": 9501.479, "end": 9508.08}, {"text": "that event Parks mean so is that will be used existing Park to build some more", "start": 9508.08, "end": 9513.76}, {"text": "facilities like uh stage or big shelter to cover or something or we we uh invent", "start": 9513.76, "end": 9522.16}, {"text": "to do some build brand new parks to uh to fit this requirement for the event", "start": 9522.16, "end": 9529.52}, {"text": "need the north Oakville for the people yes uh thank you through you acting mayor uh so action 75 speaks to", "start": 9529.52, "end": 9537.399}, {"text": "establishing a minimum of two event Parks or or Parks um categorized as", "start": 9537.399, "end": 9543.04}, {"text": "event Parks largely in North Oakville um so the these would be new uh new parks", "start": 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it's hard to do that in a park that's do you know that's", "start": 9586.04, "end": 9591.8}, {"text": "focused say on Sports Fields those can always hold different events but what we're talking about here are more", "start": 9591.8, "end": 9597.16}, {"text": "Community level neighborhood to community level types of events so just making sure that they they have that", "start": 9597.16, "end": 9602.359}, {"text": "opportunity designed with that purpose in mind and then permitted uh for that", "start": 9602.359, "end": 9607.68}, {"text": "purpose as well that's fantastic that's the exactly what the north people want to have the event V places gathering for", "start": 9607.68, "end": 9617.12}, {"text": "all those celebration ET Cal uh in North um okay for the last one is for dog", "start": 9617.12, "end": 9623.52}, {"text": "parks so I noticed for dog park on Northeast we will have a long-term plan", "start": 9623.52, "end": 9630.88}, {"text": "for adding one more uh dog parks that's 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lays out and updates the north Oakville Park distribution plan so you have lands that are coming to you we", "start": 9686.16, "end": 9692.2}, {"text": "want to make sure that those sites when they are ready for development absorb and and and and respond to the needs of", "start": 9692.2, "end": 9699.399}, {"text": "the community at that time so um timing of development I think is is you know", "start": 9699.399, "end": 9704.6}, {"text": "for for many especially the park elements that are easier to do um I'll say say you know at least from a cost", "start": 9704.6, "end": 9711.6}, {"text": "perspective um that opportunity is there okay thank you very much thank you", "start": 9711.6, "end": 9718.24}, {"text": "councelor g councelor can't speak councel what's wrong with my my my lips", "start": 9718.24, "end": 9723.319}, {"text": "my list counselor X thank you very much next up we have uh counselor", "start": 9723.319, "end": 9730.08}, {"text": "Nanda I think you're muted you are muted in", "start": 9736.8, "end": 9741.76}, {"text": "fact sorry no problem try it again um thank you do you acting mayor", "start": 9741.96, "end": 9748.479}, {"text": "um thank you to the whole team um for this comprehensive report it very detail oriented a lot of information um and a", "start": 9748.479, "end": 9756.56}, {"text": "lot going on um my questions were around um I guess what council gings was", "start": 9756.56, "end": 9762.2}, {"text": "speaking to earlier about the community hubs um up in the north um I did see one", "start": 9762.2, "end": 9768.399}, {"text": "stat up there that we're looking at at one point during buildout having", "start": 9768.399, "end": 9774.68}, {"text": "130,000 uh people in North Oakville and so I think one of the most important", "start": 9774.68, "end": 9782}, {"text": "points about that is one having our community hubs um but also having our", "start": 9782, "end": 9787.68}, {"text": "community center I did see that in the report it said in the 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{"text": "through your acting chair n um just a question I think I think it's uh probably best suited for staff so the", "start": 10087.279, "end": 10093.8}, {"text": "idea around taking a look at the Bron athletic complex and the surrounding", "start": 10093.8, "end": 10098.88}, {"text": "lands to see how best we could optimize or enhance it would you rather look at that through this report that seems more", "start": 10098.88, "end": 10106.68}, {"text": "uh more more like a fit to me as opposed to a uh going through a staff report process uh I'm open to either way but", "start": 10106.68, "end": 10114.52}, {"text": "just want to see what the best fit is through you councelor n councelor MCN", "start": 10114.52, "end": 10119.6}, {"text": "that would be preferable because I think there'll be opportunities on that site and uh we can take direction that the", "start": 10119.6, "end": 10125.88}, {"text": "understanding is that you want a more wholesome review of that site as part of any 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{"text": "discussion about a stadium going somewhere like not a massive one but a a", "start": 10170.92, "end": 10177.04}, {"text": "high school football one or a a league one size like a 5,000 I know sharid it", "start": 10177.04, "end": 10182.92}, {"text": "has one but again they use that for just their players uh and I'm not talking about anytime soon but as we grow over", "start": 10182.92, "end": 10189.239}, {"text": "the next 20 30 years um there there may be use for one and and if there's opportunities that come up um I know we'", "start": 10189.239, "end": 10196.359}, {"text": "like to have these kind of things somewhere in a plan on a shelf in case there's a a federal government a World", "start": 10196.359, "end": 10202.64}, {"text": "Cup grant for these sorts of things did any conversation come up over the consultations about", "start": 10202.64, "end": 10208.64}, {"text": "that thank you councelor through you acting uh mayor um there were there were", "start": 10208.64, 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"into the book here but maybe through the sports tourism uh aspect we can we can just be ready if an opportunity comes up", "start": 10287.88, "end": 10295.12}, {"text": "that we can say yeah we thought about that we contemplated it and of all the all the sort of blocks and pieces are", "start": 10295.12, "end": 10301.16}, {"text": "lining up we should go and do it cuz I I think that's what's going to make us a great town city Village region to be in", "start": 10301.16, "end": 10307.76}, {"text": "is we have these places for a high high school football team who goes to provincial finals can do it in our", "start": 10307.76, "end": 10313.12}, {"text": "hometown I think that would be great so um but yeah look I'll look for that in the sports strategy then thank", "start": 10313.12, "end": 10319.56}, {"text": "you thank you counselor councelor hasle feel for a second time um acting their", "start": 10319.56, "end": 10324.96}, {"text": "no sorry I just wanted to have one concluding kind 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"the the park evolving and Partnerships that are available so we definitely", "start": 10513.12, "end": 10518.88}, {"text": "we're we're also coming back with it with um the event study as well that's", "start": 10518.88, "end": 10525.08}, {"text": "probably part of it as well um but we definitely do need to look at the park on its own and come back with a plan", "start": 10525.08, "end": 10531.52}, {"text": "that we can bring to council and share with you and get your comments and feedback so that's expected in 2025 yes", "start": 10531.52, "end": 10537.88}, {"text": "sir is there any opportunity for Council to be taken on a tour of the Eco Park I mean we bought this and we were all", "start": 10537.88, "end": 10543.08}, {"text": "excited about at the time but it's it's kind of uh I don't know I it's sort of", "start": 10543.08, "end": 10548.359}, {"text": "decide or to mind at the moment I maybe part of the visioning plan might be for us to actually see what's up there I've just seen 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to the days I lived in at tobaco and it tobaco school board and the City of aoboco had this wonderful", "start": 10710.239, "end": 10717}, {"text": "Community School partnership um where they were joint own facilities or joint manag facilities I don't know what the", "start": 10717, "end": 10722.68}, {"text": "ownership model was but basically after six it belonged to the town or I think it was maybe even after five or 4:30 it", "start": 10722.68, "end": 10728.72}, {"text": "belonged to the city and they programmed it with their parks and recck department whether it would be lessons or whatever", "start": 10728.72, "end": 10734}, {"text": "the case is did you look at that as a model um when you were doing your recommendations is and and frankly was", "start": 10734, "end": 10740.8}, {"text": "is it a successful model I don't know enough about uh that feel to know how that works I know other communities have", "start": 10740.8, "end": 10747.319}, {"text": "it as well there are differing views on the success of the model and and and you know as as is often the case with with", "start": 10747.319, "end": 10753.72}, {"text": "Partnerships they work well for a time until they don't and I know the challenge in Toronto with their", "start": 10753.72, "end": 10758.8}, {"text": "Community Schools has has been you know they get established with with the right intentions and when the community's", "start": 10758.8, "end": 10765.399}, {"text": "young it works up well and the infrastructure is new but as the infrastructure a ages and then the", "start": 10765.399, "end": 10770.479}, {"text": "funding models start to shift it becomes very difficult so with any partnership you always want uh a balance of risk you", "start": 10770.479, "end": 10778.52}, {"text": "don't the municipality shouldn't be absorbing too much or too little and when that gets out of whack it becomes a", "start": 10778.52, "end": 10784.08}, {"text": "challenge and I know that's uh what's happening with some of the old older centers um there are communities vau has", "start": 10784.08, "end": 10790.88}, {"text": "one high school vour Village uh Community Center they get shared use of", "start": 10790.88, "end": 10796.16}, {"text": "of gymnasiums and then there's also some other spaces they have a pool um they", "start": 10796.16, "end": 10801.279}, {"text": "can work um what I would say is your your reciprocal use your permitting of", "start": 10801.279, "end": 10807.76}, {"text": "schools is among the best that we've seen in Ontario uh as far as that model", "start": 10807.76, "end": 10813.08}, {"text": "goes the fact that the permitting flows through your your town and the core", "start": 10813.08, "end": 10819.08}, {"text": "users as opposed to going through the school board um there are many municipalities that would much prefer to", "start": 10819.08, "end": 10826.64}, {"text": "have that model and and look at you um with um with um you know great success", "start": 10826.64, "end": 10832.8}, {"text": "there I I think that based on the chattering I'm hearing from councelor chis that he may be uh in a position to", "start": 10832.8, "end": 10839.12}, {"text": "take a bow on that one yes um a little bit of credit um", "start": 10839.12, "end": 10844.96}, {"text": "this is going back um many years ago with the four municipalities uh in the region got together with the Halton", "start": 10844.96, "end": 10851.96}, {"text": "District School Board and the Halton Catholic District School Board and we worked on it and we didn't have no", "start": 10851.96, "end": 10857.96}, {"text": "disrespect to Consultants but we did it inous uh the four municipalities and it took us about a year and a half to put", "start": 10857.96, "end": 10864.319}, {"text": "it together because it was very detailed and we're very proud of the reciprocal agreement that we we've uh put in place", "start": 10864.319, "end": 10870.92}, {"text": "and I'm glad it's still going uh aside from that so so 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successful so I'll just leave it as that for clarity uh", "start": 10914.04, "end": 10919.84}, {"text": "thank you for thank you for adding that Council Chism I I guess what I'm hearing is that it's it's the The Challenge on", "start": 10919.84, "end": 10925.12}, {"text": "this in this area is more the administration and the capex uh planning around around those facilities and not", "start": 10925.12, "end": 10931.479}, {"text": "so much about the delivery of services is that is that accurate the service delivery because I know when I lived in", "start": 10931.479, "end": 10937.08}, {"text": "tobico we we took great advantage of uh I think it's called Uh Adam sir Adam Beck school maybe it's John definitely", "start": 10937.08, "end": 10943.08}, {"text": "and those are still within the city's inventory they're programmed but you're right you're absolutely right policies", "start": 10943.08, "end": 10948.2}, {"text": "change and if they don't change on both sides equally you know that's another layer of of challenge okay thank you for", "start": 10948.2, "end": 10955.16}, {"text": "that I see that uh We've scared up another question here uh counselor Elgar you have the floor thank you acting", "start": 10955.16, "end": 10962.96}, {"text": "mayor councelor no yeah I know it's late in the evening but just just one little thing", "start": 10962.96, "end": 10968.84}, {"text": "back in the OPA 198 days um there was a a negotiation with the conservation hall", "start": 10968.84, "end": 10975}, {"text": "because the the the province didn't want to give the land to the town so they gave it to conservation hton as a 20-year agreement to develop a passive", "start": 10975, "end": 10983.12}, {"text": "Glenn Archy Glenn or Park very little has happened I know there's been huge issues up there uh because of maybe", "start": 10983.12, "end": 10990.52}, {"text": "people that shouldn't be using it using it and there's been a lot of things but is Town staff working at all with", "start": 10990.52, "end": 10996.16}, {"text": "conservation Halton to see if about using that as passive Parkland is an extremely big tra of land and are we", "start": 10996.16, "end": 11002.68}, {"text": "doing anything at the town with regard to that with conservation", "start": 11002.68, "end": 11008.04}, {"text": "home um through you uh councelor NL uh it is actually one of your strategic", "start": 11011.08, "end": 11017.2}, {"text": "plan uh requirements is to look at uh opportunities for the Glenn ory pce uh", "start": 11017.2, "end": 11022.92}, {"text": "we have had very early discussions with conservation Halton in terms of and region in terms of what are the", "start": 11022.92, "end": 11029.6}, {"text": "opportunities the lease itself as you said was a 20-year lease and we're actually coming close to the end of that", "start": 11029.6, "end": 11036}, {"text": "lease so that's really the first priority is to very similar to the the", "start": 11036, "end": 11041.399}, {"text": "discussion with the Crusaders is to sort out the land ownership um so that we can", "start": 11041.399, "end": 11046.439}, {"text": "then really look at a plan that can focus on using those lands for what conservation because conservation hland", "start": 11046.439, "end": 11052.88}, {"text": "does a whole management plan um but until we actually secure the ownership of of the lands or or a longer term", "start": 11052.88, "end": 11059.88}, {"text": "agreement with the province to move towards that plan would be very difficult um so it is part of your", "start": 11059.88, "end": 11066.76}, {"text": "strategic plan we had Lo uh discussions quite some time ago we should actually", "start": 11066.76, "end": 11071.88}, {"text": "renew those discussions with conservation home and the region I think both of all three of us parties would be", "start": 11071.88, "end": 11079.04}, {"text": "important to resolve it uh through uh ucao I really appreciate that because I", "start": 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"start": 11120.64, "end": 11125.92}, {"text": "that I look forward to the report back thanks thank you counselor thank you", "start": 11125.92, "end": 11131.64}, {"text": "counselor sounds like a three stoes rtin thank you counselor thank you counselor uh okay that's great uh I don't see any", "start": 11131.64, "end": 11138}, {"text": "further questions at this time so I want to thank uh Mr langla for an excellent report and an excellent presentation", "start": 11138, "end": 11144.239}, {"text": "tonight thank you for your work uh we really appreciate it and thank you to Council for all the great feedback as well um we have a motion uh that we need", "start": 11144.239, "end": 11152.16}, {"text": "to address and that is uh um you'll see that in your report it's a four-point motion I think the mayor was suggesting", "start": 11152.16, "end": 11158.239}, {"text": "that if you uh if you have specific pet projects that you bring it back in the form of a request report later I think", "start": 11158.239, "end": 11165.72}, {"text": "that makes really good sense give it some thought and uh we we can facilitate it that way unless you you really want", "start": 11165.72, "end": 11171.88}, {"text": "to amend this motion but otherwise I have a motion here and I'm looking for somebody to uh move it it's Tom mams and", "start": 11171.88, "end": 11178.319}, {"text": "councelor G thank you very much uh any further comments or questions all in", "start": 11178.319, "end": 11184.96}, {"text": "favor that's carried unanimously thank you very much thank you staff as well for the uh wonderful work on that we've", "start": 11184.96, "end": 11191.319}, {"text": "already passed 5.2 which is community activation Grant matter uh we have no confidential discussion items I need a", "start": 11191.319, "end": 11196.76}, {"text": "motion for the consideration and reading of the bylaws thank you councelor uh L China and councelor Nanda all in favor", "start": 11196.76, "end": 11205.08}, {"text": "that is carried uh we only have the one b 7.1 which is the uh just the procedural bylaw yeah uh so that's uh", "start": 11205.08, "end": 11213.479}, {"text": "concluding the business for today I want to thank everybody for their time and attention um the election in the United", "start": 11213.479, "end": 11218.84}, {"text": "States uh seems to be going according to what everybody was predicting at this point um so uh we'll uh I'll run home", "start": 11218.84, "end": 11225.92}, {"text": "and see how that turns out so with that this meeting is adjourned and once again I'll thank you for your uh information", "start": 11225.92, "end": 11231.84}, {"text": "this evening", "start": 11231.84, "end": 11234.96}]