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grants that's a searchable spreadsheet put up on their website so that would likely be", "start": 2017.639, "end": 2024.519}, {"text": "the same form we'd look to emulate we can use that same data to populate for example Google Maps to do a data", "start": 2024.519, "end": 2031.24}, {"text": "visualization of say the distribution of infrastructure uh that would be very very helpful and that's it thank you", "start": 2031.24, "end": 2039.72}, {"text": "thanks thank you councelor Chang", "start": 2053.919, "end": 2062.48}, {"text": "questions thank you through the chair I just have one quick question so in my", "start": 2062.48, "end": 2068.679}, {"text": "ward we have the Meridian Arts Center which is a huge piece of cultural space", "start": 2068.679, "end": 2074.04}, {"text": "but it's actually inaccessible to my community because it's so expensive to", "start": 2074.04, "end": 2079.28}, {"text": "use and I'm just wondering would that count that that Ward 18 has a lot of", "start": 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six of the city will be recognized as a place that the city needs to make investments through through the speaker", "start": 2323.72, "end": 2329.839}, {"text": "to you Council Meers absolutely the plan directs us to do the work you just described thank you very much thank you", "start": 2329.839, "end": 2339.44}, {"text": "Deputy Mayor mik questions thank you very much and um", "start": 2344.079, "end": 2349.76}, {"text": "councilor Meers uh did address uh a question about equitable distribution", "start": 2349.76, "end": 2355.4}, {"text": "across neighborhoods and communities um around uh you know how the plan is laid", "start": 2355.4, "end": 2360.68}, {"text": "out uh so my my other question is um", "start": 2360.68, "end": 2366.079}, {"text": "about ownership model and what specific ownership models social Enterprises", "start": 2366.079, "end": 2371.319}, {"text": "cooperatives trusts Etc will be prioritized for cultural spaces and what", "start": 2371.319, "end": 2377.24}, 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{"text": "well one of the challenges that we're seeing is around the financial sustainability and viability of arts and", "start": 2471.119, "end": 2478.359}, {"text": "culture uh spaces so how will the city address the financial", "start": 2478.359, "end": 2484.359}, {"text": "sustainability of I guess what we would call altern ative cultural spaces including you know hearing I'd like to", "start": 2484.359, "end": 2492.28}, {"text": "hear a little bit more about whether there's potential subsidies or tax incentives or financial support", "start": 2492.28, "end": 2499.64}, {"text": "mechanisms uh through the speaker and thanks for the question we are looking at uh uh additional opportunities to use", "start": 2499.64, "end": 2507.839}, {"text": "the uh creative co uh collocation tax uh reduction and different uses that might", "start": 2507.839, "end": 2515.359}, {"text": "uh for which that might apply which would give uh other organizations and", "start": 2515.359, "end": 2521.52}, 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uh thank you Madame speaker I've got two motions", "start": 2920.64, "end": 2928.119}, {"text": "uh staff are supportive of uh reporting um uh at the end of 2025", "start": 2928.119, "end": 2937.76}, {"text": "uh to develop the dashboard that's the first uh part the second part is um to", "start": 2937.76, "end": 2945}, {"text": "report to acdv um in the fourth quarter of 25 on", "start": 2945, "end": 2950.04}, {"text": "the imple and annually thereafter on the implementation progress and outcomes of", "start": 2950.04, "end": 2955.96}, {"text": "culture connects um and I'd like to speak about the work put in this plan", "start": 2955.96, "end": 2963.96}, {"text": "it's incredibly thorough and comprehens ensive and want to acknowledge all the", "start": 2963.96, "end": 2969.119}, {"text": "leadership and work by uh counselors and staff into the production of this", "start": 2969.119, "end": 2974.16}, {"text": "document very rich um and my hope with uh with this document and these", 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or not in our city we know", "start": 3026, "end": 3031.96}, {"text": "culture exists everywhere it's how do we tap recognize appreciate and support", "start": 3031.96, "end": 3039.799}, {"text": "those Endeavors to my friend and colleague councelor Meyers points in nor Scarboro we know culture exists there we", "start": 3039.799, "end": 3046.96}, {"text": "see it all the time but in many capacities our communities are unable to", "start": 3046.96, "end": 3053.599}, {"text": "access the supports programming so so I think part of this work in the next year", "start": 3053.599, "end": 3061.4}, {"text": "is to create opportunities for communities to access the Myriad of programs that exist and will exist in", "start": 3061.4, "end": 3069.599}, {"text": "the action items whether it's uh Tac grants as basic as that towards the", "start": 3069.599, "end": 3076}, {"text": "community Improvement plans the imit programs what's coming before us in December and all the host of urgent", "start": 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as city council to direct the general manager of Economic Development and culture to", "start": 3194.52, "end": 3201.4}, {"text": "assess the feasibility and potential cost of a pilot program for the city to acquire at risk or stress commercial", "start": 3201.4, "end": 3207.24}, {"text": "property similar to the multi-unit residential acquisition uh", "start": 3207.24, "end": 3213}, {"text": "program and I want to start by thanking uh staff uh community members from right", "start": 3213, "end": 3220.24}, {"text": "across the city and especially in my downtown Ward and and as a local", "start": 3220.24, "end": 3225.4}, {"text": "counselor for Spadina for York and in our downtown it is home to so many of", "start": 3225.4, "end": 3230.72}, {"text": "our most beloved and long-standing Arts and Cultural institutions and we know", "start": 3230.72, "end": 3236.24}, {"text": "that that work and those Deep Roots have been built up over time and I'm", "start": 3236.24, "end": 3241.48}, {"text": "incredibly proud of Toronto's vibrant cultural scene of course in our downtown but across the city as well and our city", "start": 3241.48, "end": 3249.44}, {"text": "is a hub of creativity Innovation and diversity we talk about it all the time and we know that artists and culture", "start": 3249.44, "end": 3255.72}, {"text": "makers make it so and our arts and culture sector plays a crucial role in shaping our identity and our focus and", "start": 3255.72, "end": 3263.68}, {"text": "what our future can be as a city and I'm also deeply concerned about the", "start": 3263.68, "end": 3268.76}, {"text": "challenges our culture and art sector is facing many artists culture workers and", "start": 3268.76, "end": 3274.68}, {"text": "organizations are struggling to survive in the face of rising costs limited", "start": 3274.68, "end": 3280.2}, {"text": "funding and a lack of affordable space there does is not a week that goes by", "start": 3280.2, "end": 3286.4}, {"text": "where my office is not hearing about that call imploring us around support", "start": 3286.4, "end": 3292.16}, {"text": "and help when it comes to Affordable space for the sector and the cost of living crisis has hit our cultural", "start": 3292.16, "end": 3298.799}, {"text": "workers particularly hard artists and culture workers are are struggling to", "start": 3298.799, "end": 3304.88}, {"text": "imagine and build a future in our city and we know that they are so important", "start": 3304.88, "end": 3310.319}, {"text": "and they just don't just contribute to our identity as a city but they also put us on the map and they have to be able", "start": 3310.319, "end": 3318.04}, {"text": "to imagine a future here and our cultural organizations alongside them are experiencing significant challenges", "start": 3318.04, "end": 3324.76}, {"text": "again struggling to find that affordable space in that home to be able to operate and expand their programming because we", "start": 3324.76, "end": 3332.039}, {"text": "know the demand is there and they often rely on precarious funding models and to", "start": 3332.039, "end": 3337.16}, {"text": "address these challenges my motion requests staff to examine the feasibility of repurposing underutilized", "start": 3337.16, "end": 3344.52}, {"text": "and derck spaces into vibrant homes for our cultural institutions and a hubs for", "start": 3344.52, "end": 3350.559}, {"text": "artists and culture makers and our communities and by transforming these neglected and underused spaces we can", "start": 3350.559, "end": 3357}, {"text": "create affordable and inspiring environments for artists and cultural organizations and our communities to", "start": 3357, "end": 3363.16}, {"text": "thrive for the Long Haul and I want to thank staff again for their work and", "start": 3363.16, "end": 3368.24}, {"text": "particularly want to thank councelor Carol and Bravo for pushing forward this plan and ensuring we are working to", "start": 3368.24, 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neighborhoods because every neighborhood in the city has something unique and positive to contribute thank", "start": 3471.76, "end": 3477.319}, {"text": "you very much thank", "start": 3477.319, "end": 3483.599}, {"text": "you councelor feter to speak thank you very much speaker I have a couple of", "start": 3485.44, "end": 3490.839}, {"text": "motions if I can get those up there", "start": 3490.839, "end": 3495.16}, {"text": "please thank", "start": 3496.319, "end": 3499.559}, {"text": "you there we go thank you see them there um basically making sure that we're very", "start": 3503.88, "end": 3510.64}, {"text": "supportive of frankophone theater Productions and getting space because it's very active community and could use", "start": 3510.64, "end": 3518.24}, {"text": "a a good home and secondly all the nonprofit theater community in the city", "start": 3518.24, "end": 3524.359}, {"text": "whether you're in Scarboro or North York tobico uh in this old city of Toronto", "start": 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building 40 and 50 story buildings in the inner BS and not invest", "start": 3819.359, "end": 3825.4}, {"text": "in building the economic and cultural plans for these new downtown areas Mel", "start": 3825.4, "end": 3830.68}, {"text": "lassman envisioned North York to be a vibrant downtown as a center to the GTA", "start": 3830.68, "end": 3837.2}, {"text": "we look forward to Investments that can help us strengthen our cultural economy", "start": 3837.2, "end": 3842.559}, {"text": "in Willowdale we have a fledgling Arts organization called the Willowdale Arts Collective that started our first live", "start": 3842.559, "end": 3850.4}, {"text": "lounge with live music at the Novatel Hotel just a couple of weeks ago every", "start": 3850.4, "end": 3855.96}, {"text": "Thursday night this winter so and the first two nights that have been planned", "start": 3855.96, "end": 3861.52}, {"text": "have been sold out the hunger for the Arts is here but the infr structure is still lacking North 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councelor Carol to speak thanks Madam speaker um Madam", "start": 3916.44, "end": 3923.16}, {"text": "speaker I I I I hope people know him speaking on behalf of the people who worked on this plan but also uh uh chair", "start": 3923.16, "end": 3929.64}, {"text": "Bravo who's I think tucking into bed she just sent me a message um uh there there", "start": 3929.64, "end": 3936.2}, {"text": "are some people who haven't been thanked we have thanked our staff and I'm happy of that uh uh at a ran uh our our her", "start": 3936.2, "end": 3944.68}, {"text": "culture Zar she gets mad when I call herar um and and margar pigot screen is", "start": 3944.68, "end": 3951.079}, {"text": "a part of this and so there is the team there but sitting way in the corner are people who helped us through the", "start": 3951.079, "end": 3957.24}, {"text": "advisory panel process mojan and Ben were the staff members who facilitated", "start": 3957.24, "end": 3963.24}, {"text": "an advisory panel that is so 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to thousands of people who are working in the the the sector right now", "start": 4006.48, "end": 4014.319}, {"text": "giving back feedback such as you just heard from counselor changen but really", "start": 4014.319, "end": 4019.72}, {"text": "speaking to many things the things that are consistently always a challenge", "start": 4019.72, "end": 4025.24}, {"text": "their space as the city grows their space gets squeezed and moved and pushed", "start": 4025.24, "end": 4030.799}, {"text": "out um but then the challenges that they place there is no other sector hit more", "start": 4030.799, "end": 4038.039}, {"text": "immediately and more devastatingly by the pandemic than the culture sector", "start": 4038.039, "end": 4043.599}, {"text": "they immediately Lost Their audience a they were forbidden to have an audience", "start": 4043.599, "end": 4048.88}, {"text": "and in that long period of time uh in every discipline every type of Visual", "start": 4048.88, "end": 4054.44}, {"text": "Arts and but the only artists that we're we're doing all right were writers because what were we what were we doing", "start": 4054.44, "end": 4059.68}, {"text": "during lockdown sitting around reading and turning to our screens the screen business is part of this uh this uh", "start": 4059.68, "end": 4067.16}, {"text": "strategy but even it is changing as we speak with the Advent of new", "start": 4067.16, "end": 4073.039}, {"text": "technologies uh so there's a focus on on every discipline here but going Beyond", "start": 4073.039, "end": 4079.2}, {"text": "recovery what truly is the nature of culture in the city for the next 10", "start": 4079.2, "end": 4084.319}, {"text": "years well it comes down to the priorities I hope people went through the actions under them culture", "start": 4084.319, "end": 4090.16}, {"text": "everywhere culture for all culture for the future and culture beyond our", "start": 4090.16, "end": 4096.199}, {"text": "borders you know that the gallery is full of young people tonight Madam speaker any one of them could become an", "start": 4096.199, "end": 4103.92}, {"text": "artist that is so so spectacular we want the world to know about them but it's", "start": 4103.92, "end": 4109.04}, {"text": "one of the things missing from our cultural sector that we we don't as a city do what we can do to make sure that", "start": 4109.04, "end": 4116.12}, {"text": "they could actually go beyond the borders of the city we could actually help them become known beyond our own", "start": 4116.12, "end": 4122.199}, {"text": "borders we did used to do that in my very first term I was privileged to to", "start": 4122.199, "end": 4128.04}, {"text": "visit with the mayor at the time Mayor Miller an exchange program to ronian", "start": 4128.04, "end": 4133.159}, {"text": "artists in Berlin while a handful of of artists from Berlin were brought here", "start": 4133.159, "end": 4139.96}, {"text": "they they were given Housing close by uh uh okad and they learned something about", "start": 4139.96, "end": 4146.159}, {"text": "Toronto and created amazing things and and we visited those in Berlin we", "start": 4146.159, "end": 4151.44}, {"text": "haven't done anything like that since that was 20 years ago 20 years", "start": 4151.44, "end": 4157.64}, {"text": "ago these people who need that opportunity so Madam speaker I hope that", "start": 4157.64, "end": 4163.238}, {"text": "people you know I I support all motions that I've heard but I hope that people understand that this 10-year plan it's", "start": 4163.239, "end": 4170.318}, {"text": "it's a living organic thing we can continue to work with these staff work", "start": 4170.319, "end": 4175.56}, {"text": "with the sector to realize the vision that is in this plan everywhere means", "start": 4175.56, "end": 4181.44}, {"text": "right out to the city limits all the way to Steels Avenue that's something the Arts Council has been dedicated to for", "start": 4181.44, "end": 4188.08}, {"text": "many years now but now the whole plan is for all black indigenous bipo dur on", "start": 4188.08, "end": 4195.52}, {"text": "Ians and in particular black indigenous and bipo youth we need to make sure that", "start": 4195.52, "end": 4200.8}, {"text": "they have the opportunities they need for the future we have to understand that how the culture interacts with our", "start": 4200.8, "end": 4208.4}, {"text": "our city is going to change in the future and we can anticipate and we can plan for it and this 10-year plan ask", "start": 4208.4, "end": 4215.76}, {"text": "staff to do that work and lastly beyond our borders as I've already described that has to be important to us so", "start": 4215.76, "end": 4223}, {"text": "counselors I hope that we'll all support the motions and that we will work with", "start": 4223, "end": 4228.4}, {"text": "economic development and culture staff to actually help realize this plan in all 25 wordss thank you councelor", "start": 4228.4, "end": 4236.679}, {"text": "Carol okay let's put the Motions on the screen let's", "start": 4236.679, "end": 4242.28}, {"text": "vote yeah in order", "start": 4242.8, "end": 4247.198}, {"text": "okay motion by councelor kival all in", "start": 4262.159, "end": 4267.6}, {"text": "favor carried next", "start": 4267.6, "end": 4272.159}, {"text": "motion Deputy Mayor Mal on in favor carried", "start": 4277.32, "end": 4283.92}, {"text": "okay recorded vote [Music]", "start": 4287.8, "end": 4317.189}, {"text": "councelor Bradford your vote [Music]", "start": 4320.679, "end": 4333.4}, {"text": "please the motion carries the vote is", "start": 4333.4, "end": 4338}, {"text": "18-2 okay", "start": 4340.08, "end": 4344.08}, {"text": "okay which is the next motion motion by councelor Fletcher on favor", "start": 4348.12, "end": 4356.12}, {"text": "carried motion by councelor Chang all in favor", "start": 4358.92, "end": 4364.88}, {"text": "carried yeah item is amended on in favor carried okay our next item it is ec1", "start": 4368.239, "end": 4377.52}, {"text": "16.2 sidewalks to skylines an action plan for Toronto's", "start": 4377.52, "end": 4384.48}, {"text": "economy do we have any questions to", "start": 4384.48, "end": 4389.32}, {"text": "staff any questions to staff going twice councelor", "start": 4391.639, "end": 4398.84}, {"text": "cival thank you Madame speaker um are we waiting for staff Focus oh it's not you", "start": 4400.04, "end": 4406.679}, {"text": "guys that's what I thought", "start": 4406.679, "end": 4410.88}, {"text": "yeah do we have staff here oh", "start": 4422.719, "end": 4428}, {"text": "okay oh okay I I was waiting for them to settle in Cal okay can I can I can I can", "start": 4428, "end": 4433.36}, {"text": "I ask or do you want to tell me all right uh thank you madam speaker and colleagues uh this is the second of two", "start": 4433.36, "end": 4440.719}, {"text": "and very uh consequential um impactful plans for our", "start": 4440.719, "end": 4446.4}, {"text": "city and our people um want to um start", "start": 4446.4, "end": 4451.6}, {"text": "with uh uh a few questions um [Music]", "start": 4451.6, "end": 4457.679}, {"text": "the um the conversation that's happening in many of our communities is how we attract and maintain", "start": 4457.679, "end": 4465.719}, {"text": "employment amidst uh tremendous intensification and growth can staff", "start": 4465.719, "end": 4473}, {"text": "speak specifically to some of the items that are within this plan and coming up", "start": 4473, "end": 4478.04}, {"text": "that um that address that concern uh through the speaker to you counselor Cal thank you very much for", "start": 4478.04, "end": 4484.4}, {"text": "the question um there are four priority areas here to speak directly to what you're describing uh one is um Global", "start": 4484.4, "end": 4493.12}, {"text": "competitiveness uh certainly uh and a second is good jobs and in those areas", "start": 4493.12, "end": 4498.4}, 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thank you and to build on that question and to dig deeper", "start": 4535.44, "end": 4542.32}, {"text": "because we see a disproportionality in where we where there's growth and then grow growth in", "start": 4542.32, "end": 4548.76}, {"text": "uh residential um spaces in proportion to growth in economic spaces uh and jobs uh", "start": 4548.76, "end": 4558.12}, {"text": "what is the plan encouraging in regards to areas that we have identified as", "start": 4558.12, "end": 4565.199}, {"text": "underserved or in need of Economic Development um what is the plan speaking", "start": 4565.199, "end": 4570.76}, {"text": "to growth economic growth in those areas uh through the speaker to you councelor", "start": 4570.76, "end": 4575.8}, {"text": "canival uh certainly the official plan calls for the addition of 750,000 residents in Toronto by 2051 and we need", "start": 4575.8, "end": 4583.88}, {"text": "half a million jobs in order to uh have a functioning economy give those people the income necessary to live here this", "start": 4583.88, "end": 4590.6}, {"text": "plan in terms of outlying areas neighborhood Improvement areas uh allows for the preservation as mentioned of", "start": 4590.6, "end": 4596.52}, {"text": "employment lands targeted uh labor market development initiatives that", "start": 4596.52, "end": 4601.639}, {"text": "would help reduce the barriers to say construction or or manufacturing jobs", "start": 4601.639, "end": 4607.12}, {"text": "which we know to be durable and high paying uh and we also have a number of", "start": 4607.12, "end": 4612.36}, {"text": "initiatives here such as the uh uh indigenous Center for Innovation and Entrepreneurship which provides targeted", "start": 4612.36, "end": 4619.04}, {"text": "support to the indigenous Community uh thank you um and and following this I", "start": 4619.04, "end": 4625.08}, {"text": "know staff working on a report tracking to phc in December uh that's looking to build and improve upon the existing 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the former imit program uh", "start": 4679.44, "end": 4686.04}, {"text": "which uh will be brought forward to the December phc planning housing committee", "start": 4686.04, "end": 4692.04}, {"text": "uh will look at a targeted more predictable um uh in fact more affordable program for the city that is", "start": 4692.04, "end": 4699.6}, {"text": "is targeted on certain High sectors one last question do does staff believe that it's imperative that we have these", "start": 4699.6, "end": 4705.4}, {"text": "incentives to attract economic growth uh in areas that have already been", "start": 4705.4, "end": 4712.92}, {"text": "converted to mixed use and um and regeneration through the speaker to you counselor yes thank", "start": 4712.92, "end": 4720.04}, {"text": "you thank", "start": 4720.04, "end": 4723.28}, {"text": "you councel Chen question thank you madam speaker the", "start": 4725.679, "end": 4733.6}, {"text": "province has identified apped four Urban growth areas outside of the 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employment land and we and if we were to go below that threshold we would have to", "start": 5103.199, "end": 5110.639}, {"text": "make that up somewhere uh through the speaker to you oh I'll pass to my the chief planner", "start": 5110.639, "end": 5119.4}, {"text": "speaker clearly the preservation of our employment lands is a priority that priority has been set out in the the", "start": 5119.4, "end": 5124.44}, {"text": "official plan that set out through the process that we go through every 5 years for a municipal comprehensive review um", "start": 5124.44, "end": 5131.04}, {"text": "it's it's a high priority the precise means that you've just suggested would probably be very challenging given our", "start": 5131.04, "end": 5136.96}, {"text": "legislative and provincial policy context and of course we are most successful at preserving our employment lands when provincial policy supports", "start": 5136.96, "end": 5144.719}, {"text": "that policy imperative and recognizes the need to preserve those lands in order to ensure a strong economy in", "start": 5144.719, "end": 5150.52}, {"text": "Toronto for many decades in the future right so we are set to lose a lot of", "start": 5150.52, "end": 5156.239}, {"text": "employment lands in my ward because uh a Subway is being built next to an employment employment area one of those", "start": 5156.239, "end": 5163.92}, {"text": "key businesses is actually a cement factory Duffer and cement which um if", "start": 5163.92, "end": 5169.719}, {"text": "you know anything about cement you got you know it has to reach its destination within 30 minutes for the cement to", "start": 5169.719, "end": 5175.08}, {"text": "still be used and if we don't have that cement factory there that means we", "start": 5175.08, "end": 5180.52}, {"text": "either have to find smaller batches uh we have to bring smaller of cement in from other parts of the city which is", "start": 5180.52, "end": 5186.4}, {"text": "just going to make the cost of building in the East End more expensive", "start": 5186.4, "end": 5191.719}, {"text": "so what is the plan to sort of keep these key businesses and industries", "start": 5191.719, "end": 5197.96}, {"text": "going when they're facing this type of pressure such as the arrival of a new Subway which we welcome we want the", "start": 5197.96, "end": 5203.56}, {"text": "transit but we in in the process it seems like we're sacrificing our employment lands which are are also", "start": 5203.56, "end": 5209.159}, {"text": "strategic and critically important to the Vitality of the East End of the city as a whole through the speaker I'm sure", "start": 5209.159, "end": 5215.28}, {"text": "Mr Tobin may have something to add to this answer but I think I would just build upon the answer I provider in terms of the imperative of maintaining", "start": 5215.28, "end": 5221.8}, {"text": "our employment lands for Industries recognizing that economies need a very diverse employment base and some of that", 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"end": 5313.639}, {"text": "okay councelor", "start": 5317.159, "end": 5320.76}, {"text": "Carol thanks um just a couple of quick questions I want to take advantage of the fact that we do have uh uh hin Chief", "start": 5324.239, "end": 5331.4}, {"text": "planner here um we moved to motion that the advisory panel panel brought forward", "start": 5331.4, "end": 5337.08}, {"text": "we didn't wait for the end of this exercise to do it it was early in the term which was seeing some of the uh", "start": 5337.08, "end": 5343.8}, {"text": "hollowing out of downtown uh leases and and some of our A-Class office space we", "start": 5343.8, "end": 5349.92}, {"text": "moved um a motion for planning to look at is are there expanded commercial uses", "start": 5349.92, "end": 5356.679}, {"text": "are there restrictions on Commercial uses in the downtown core and are those outdated could those be updated and", "start": 5356.679, "end": 5362.679}, {"text": "expanded could will we get results on that in the near future uh through the", "start": 5362.679, "end": 5367.84}, {"text": "chair there will be results on that we are undertaking study on the office Market throughout the city to understand", "start": 5367.84, "end": 5373.239}, {"text": "the possibilities there and what the first of all what the future demand for office May likely be recognizing that", "start": 5373.239, "end": 5378.96}, {"text": "we're we are in uncertain times we don't necessarily have a crystal ball in terms of what the city's needs will be for", "start": 5378.96, "end": 5384.8}, {"text": "office space in the future I think candidly there's also sometimes an assumption that Office Buildings can", "start": 5384.8, "end": 5390.92}, {"text": "only be used for office under the zoning bylaw in fact zoning is quite permissive with respect can have of what can happen", "start": 5390.92, "end": 5397.4}, {"text": "in office spaces and there are some parts of the city that have more restrictive zoning that perhaps need 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5446.159}, {"text": "potential tenants that they're interested in attracting and perhaps where the zoning does not permit that specific use obviously we would want to", "start": 5446.159, "end": 5453.04}, {"text": "work with them to understand understand what could be done to make sure that their buildings can be as flexible and as productive for Toronto's economy as", "start": 5453.04, "end": 5459.159}, {"text": "possible okay and I'm putting you all on the spot here uh but I know we have the expertise on tap to do this um there's", "start": 5459.159, "end": 5467.56}, {"text": "always there's always sort of a dynamic about a we focused on on making sure the businesses thrive in the CBD the central", "start": 5467.56, "end": 5474.48}, {"text": "business district or or are we doing as much as we can for for uh Suburban", "start": 5474.48, "end": 5480.239}, {"text": "employment lands and Suburban clusters of business", "start": 5480.239, "end": 5485.44}, {"text": "can we do both at the same time if we are drawing people in and they're coming in through the central business district", "start": 5485.44, "end": 5491.199}, {"text": "does that float all boats uh through the speaker de Council Carol yes like most cities uh do have an", "start": 5491.199, "end": 5499.199}, {"text": "emphasis on their Central business district which are post pandemic are having unique challenges so uh there has", "start": 5499.199, "end": 5505.56}, {"text": "been a focus you'll see it within this plan on looking at the needs of the central core also with the concentration", "start": 5505.56, "end": 5512.36}, {"text": "of uh commercial uh office space there it is an aspect of its its uh unique", "start": 5512.36, "end": 5518.159}, {"text": "challenges uh but that does not mean that we don't have to work as well on the centers that are identified in the", "start": 5518.159, "end": 5523.96}, {"text": "official plan with the specific specificity uh necessary for their local", "start": 5523.96, "end": 5529.199}, {"text": "geographies okay okay uh don't worry about mispronouncing that we had trouble with compensatory early it was our own", "start": 5529.199, "end": 5536.04}, {"text": "Nables we were looking at okay thank you thank you all right let's put the", "start": 5536.04, "end": 5542}, {"text": "speakers who wants to speak speak let's just have one person speak on this", "start": 5542, "end": 5549.44}, {"text": "please like I think we only need", "start": 5549.44, "end": 5553.719}, {"text": "one oh councelor Moyes I thought you didn't want him anything to do with this you passed it", "start": 5555, "end": 5562.92}, {"text": "off oh I love you too Madam speaker bring her some more CH yes more", "start": 5562.92, "end": 5569.119}, {"text": "chers for you um Carol he says I didn't want to speak Carol Council Thompson had", "start": 5569.119, "end": 5574.84}, {"text": "to log off he had a community meeting so I am going to bring a a motion forth on his behalf and ideally staff has the", "start": 5574.84, "end": 5583.4}, {"text": "motion it's really around uh developing a business model for the delivery of", "start": 5583.4, "end": 5589.28}, {"text": "accessible electron electric vehicle charging infrastructure and to ensure that such models Spurs Innovation and", "start": 5589.28, "end": 5598.52}, {"text": "investment is it on the screen and it should be part of the annual", "start": 5598.88, "end": 5605.4}, {"text": "report as well for the action plan just wanted to thank staff for this report I", "start": 5605.4, "end": 5611}, {"text": "know a lot of work went into it uh we've had some briefings about it and uh it's really quite comprehensive so thank you", "start": 5611, "end": 5617.679}, {"text": "for all that you do um this is the easy part what you do is the hard part so", "start": 5617.679, "end": 5623.719}, {"text": "thank you so much to the entire team I also want to say that um it's important", "start": 5623.719, "end": 5630.96}, {"text": "as 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thank you thank you uh Madam", "start": 5680.08, "end": 5687.32}, {"text": "speaker I have a motion uh and this motion um explores what the city can do", "start": 5687.32, "end": 5693.199}, {"text": "to um retain and protect uh fine grain small scale", "start": 5693.199, "end": 5698.84}, {"text": "retail um when uh when there's Redevelopment um there's you know", "start": 5698.84, "end": 5704.119}, {"text": "there's often um this plan like does very good", "start": 5704.119, "end": 5710.119}, {"text": "work um or proposes very good work including uh ensuring that uh you know", "start": 5710.119, "end": 5715.56}, {"text": "we look at ways to have first right of return and bringing businesses back but we don't have", "start": 5715.56, "end": 5724.08}, {"text": "enough tools in the toolbox from a planning perspective and including working with an interdivisional", "start": 5724.08, "end": 5730.52}, {"text": "perspectives for example Solid Waste like when there's a Redevelopment often we put the emphasis on uh ensuring the", "start": 5730.52, "end": 5737.119}, {"text": "garbage trucks can turn around uh within the building but we don't allow for uh", "start": 5737.119, "end": 5742.44}, {"text": "enough of a floor plate to accommodate some of the small businesses that would like to return and when we don't have", "start": 5742.44, "end": 5748.4}, {"text": "small businesses on our main streets we end up with those you know like giant uh dentist offices or big big drugstores or", "start": 5748.4, "end": 5756.639}, {"text": "like big us uh franchises which have their place but when they're congregated", "start": 5756.639, "end": 5763.08}, {"text": "on you know an entire block they they they they're Soul seers they just like they they really do kill that block and", "start": 5763.08, "end": 5770.159}, {"text": "ultimately we don't have those walkable livable uh vibrant successful main", "start": 5770.159, "end": 5775.199}, {"text": "streets that contribute to a vibrant successible and healthy neighborhood uh we also don't have enough price points", "start": 5775.199, "end": 5781.96}, {"text": "that are accessible to small entrepreneurs mpaw shops people that", "start": 5781.96, "end": 5787.28}, {"text": "want to St start up a little store a bakery cafe what have you um along with", "start": 5787.28, "end": 5793.6}, {"text": "in areas like little Jamaica for example protecting the barber shops and you know the places that are so important to the", "start": 5793.6, "end": 5801.28}, {"text": "cultural diversity of our city as well so my motion seeks to explore uh", "start": 5801.28, "end": 5807.239}, {"text": "meaningful ways uh to have main streets uh that really move us away from the", "start": 5807.239, "end": 5814.4}, {"text": "debate about do we have you know Housing Development or not we should we need it but it's about ensuring that we have", "start": 5814.4, "end": 5821.56}, {"text": "main streets that are vibrant and successful to support our growing population I have one example you'll see", "start": 5821.56, "end": 5827.679}, {"text": "it's on the agenda today where there's a um there's a development at between", "start": 5827.679, "end": 5832.8}, {"text": "Hillsdale and Manor on Young Street where yes of course there's debates in the neighborhood around the Heiden", "start": 5832.8, "end": 5839.119}, {"text": "massing but a core issue for us is really that the property owner has not", "start": 5839.119, "end": 5844.8}, {"text": "been willing to work with us on ensuring that we see a return of the smaller", "start": 5844.8, "end": 5850.4}, {"text": "floor plates and what we're concerned about is that whether it be a three-story building or a 10 story", "start": 5850.4, "end": 5855.639}, {"text": "building or a 20 or more where we live and where we shop and where we walk won't be successful for the", "start": 5855.639, "end": 5864.36}, {"text": "community so I hope that you will s support this motion and I appreciate uh", "start": 5864.36, "end": 5870.04}, {"text": "staff's work on uh ensuring that uh that we have a that figuratively and literally works", "start": 5870.04, "end": 5876.199}, {"text": "thank you oh sure", "start": 5876.199, "end": 5880.96}, {"text": "yeah thank you very much counselor uh next up councelor", "start": 5882.8, "end": 5888.48}, {"text": "holiday oh you have a question I do for the Mover hang on one second please yes", "start": 5888.48, "end": 5893.679}, {"text": "sir got to figure out how to do that all right so go ahead uh thank you uh Deputy", "start": 5893.679, "end": 5899.679}, {"text": "speaker I'm very glad to see this motion thank you I know that um I've talked about this very issue at Community", "start": 5899.679, "end": 5906.4}, {"text": "Council and even with councelor Morley we moved a motion to have a planning study done in Islington Village because", "start": 5906.4, "end": 5912.32}, {"text": "that was the very concern where condo towers are coming in and sort of taking away the village because what was going", "start": 5912.32, "end": 5918.599}, {"text": "back was not physically configured to attract the type of stores that were", "start": 5918.599, "end": 5924.76}, {"text": "there and retailers and little businesses and I just wanted to say you're not your intention isn't to use", "start": 5924.76, "end": 5930.04}, {"text": "the word small and that you mean by tiny but independent barber shops", "start": 5930.04, "end": 5936.04}, {"text": "Professional Services things that at a scale of what is we're losing in our", "start": 5936.04, "end": 5941.119}, {"text": "city we're losing a lot of uh what we often refer to as fine grain retail yes", "start": 5941.119, "end": 5946.28}, {"text": "and uh but often the floor plates do matter I mean when it's like when it takes over half a block uh not only does", "start": 5946.28, "end": 5953}, {"text": "it uh you know it really it really kind of destroys the rhythm of having sort of a successful Main Street but I would add", "start": 5953, "end": 5959.32}, {"text": "if I may uh it also becomes like financially inaccessible to a lot of", "start": 5959.32, "end": 5964.48}, {"text": "startups or you know creative Innovative entrepreneurs as well so we've uh we've", "start": 5964.48, "end": 5969.92}, {"text": "asked for different studies to be done and there's a a list longer than what can be actually done if Council adopts", "start": 5969.92, "end": 5976.44}, {"text": "this motion do you see this as a signal to planning that this issue is important and that when they're thinking about", "start": 5976.44, "end": 5982.48}, {"text": "their work plan they should pay attention to those studies that are asking to further develop this it should", "start": 5982.48, "end": 5987.92}, {"text": "be a very clear signal to our staff that while we consider uh Housing Development", "start": 5987.92, "end": 5993.52}, {"text": "ments or office developments we cannot forget about the success of the Main Street where we want the kind of shops", "start": 5993.52, "end": 6000.96}, {"text": "and restaurants and stores that that provide both the services and the quality of life that people both value", "start": 6000.96, "end": 6006.92}, {"text": "and rely on thank you uh Madam Deputy speaker counselor thank you thank you", "start": 6006.92, "end": 6013.119}, {"text": "that's your you're finished with your questions then I'll just but you're next up to speak counselor so", "start": 6013.119, "end": 6019.92}, {"text": "um go ahead you have your five minutes no thank you thank you speaker I'll be", "start": 6019.92, "end": 6025.199}, {"text": "very brief on this uh one of the things I wanted to point out to my colleagues uh was the value of some of the", "start": 6025.199, "end": 6031.96}, {"text": "Roundtable advice that's put in the appendices um we know that the staff went out into the communities and I", "start": 6031.96, "end": 6038.88}, {"text": "would draw your attention to some of the feedback from the Scarboro businesses the North York businesses and the aoboco", "start": 6038.88, "end": 6045.52}, {"text": "businesses and you'll find some common themes in there uh among them was the protection of our um uh non-residential", "start": 6045.52, "end": 6054.4}, {"text": "or or business oriented areas uh the proximity of development uh the movement of goods the", "start": 6054.4, "end": 6062}, {"text": "transportation of workers uh to these places and sometimes we forget about this in this chamber it it comes through", "start": 6062, "end": 6068.719}, {"text": "on staff reports it becomes policy type discussion but there is some real", "start": 6068.719, "end": 6074.04}, {"text": "first-person feedback here from really important stakeholders and those are the businesses that are located in the", "start": 6074.04, "end": 6080.4}, {"text": "suburbs and are part of the backbone of our City's economy and I just I want to", "start": 6080.4, "end": 6085.52}, {"text": "draw our attention to that and the second thing um although there's a lot of great things in this plan the one", "start": 6085.52, "end": 6092.119}, {"text": "thing that I do not uh have a a strong I have support for is commercial rent", "start": 6092.119, "end": 6098.8}, {"text": "controls uh because I think that is opening up an economic concern uh because of what will happen", "start": 6098.8, "end": 6106.239}, {"text": "uh to people new people that enter the market and the risks that need to be managed if there's rent controls put in", "start": 6106.239, "end": 6112.08}, {"text": "place so I I regret that that's part of this policy discussion that really actually I think belongs with the", "start": 6112.08, "end": 6117.32}, {"text": "province um but uh but but you know there's so much good in this plan that I'll be supporting it but I wanted to", "start": 6117.32, "end": 6122.56}, {"text": "make sure I called that out in my speaking thank you uh Madame Deputy speaker thank you so much 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that's already taking off and we", "start": 6185.92, "end": 6192.719}, {"text": "we got to build it right um so uh I think that motion can be reviewed while we're looking at it um uh Madam speaker", "start": 6192.719, "end": 6201.04}, {"text": "this this one's pretty simple there there's there's only three pillars here strong main streets quality jobs Global", "start": 6201.04, "end": 6208.84}, {"text": "competitiveness that's all there is to it but what that means is those things", "start": 6208.84, "end": 6214.56}, {"text": "happening throughout the city throughout the city but you know there's been a lot of conversation about about uh uh it has", "start": 6214.56, "end": 6223.199}, {"text": "to happen in the inner suburbs it has to happen everywhere we need to understand", "start": 6223.199, "end": 6228.44}, {"text": "something Economic Development staff have always always had that as their", "start": 6228.44, "end": 6234.159}, {"text": "guidepost always for as long as I've been here I've watched them do it", "start": 6234.159, "end": 6239.28}, {"text": "through most of the time that I've been here economic development is generally chaired by someone in the suburbs", "start": 6239.28, "end": 6246.08}, {"text": "generally speaking save and accept councelor Ray it's always been someone in the suburbs because what you need is", "start": 6246.08, "end": 6251.76}, {"text": "a lens that never forgets the preservation of those employment lands some of you were mad at how overwrought", "start": 6251.76, "end": 6258.4}, {"text": "I was the last time we did a municipal comprehensive review in this chamber but it's that serious but what you learn", "start": 6258.4, "end": 6266.92}, {"text": "even if you are as I am a Suburban counselor north of the 401 what you", "start": 6266.92, "end": 6272.04}, {"text": "learn when you begin to take on this file is what we want to happen in the", "start": 6272.04, "end": 6277.239}, {"text": "suburbs is not going to happen if we end up 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{"text": "matter where I represent the downtown's got to work and it's why this plan begins before we get to those three", "start": 6421, "end": 6427.48}, {"text": "pillars that I just mentioned what our advisory panel chaired by uh very we", "start": 6427.48, "end": 6433.679}, {"text": "were again blessed to have Zine hergy RBC deoe uh an a distinguished career", "start": 6433.679, "end": 6441.92}, {"text": "chairing it and saying get the basics right you have to address work in every", "start": 6441.92, "end": 6448.84}, {"text": "division Transportation housing housing for our workers but housing for the", "start": 6448.84, "end": 6454.639}, {"text": "people living in Parks we as the business Community are asking you to take care of all those social", "start": 6454.639, "end": 6461.96}, {"text": "responsibilities so that we can attract more to this city so whatever you are concerned about", "start": 6461.96, "end": 6469.239}, {"text": "in this city I guarantee you you will find it in this plan plan and again you", "start": 6469.239, "end": 6474.52}, {"text": "have the next 10 years to work with this team on those things thank you madam speaker", "start": 6474.52, "end": 6481.36}, {"text": "counselor Burnside yes Madam speaker I'd like to", "start": 6481.36, "end": 6487.719}, {"text": "call the", "start": 6487.719, "end": 6490.119}, {"text": "question we still have a lot of items on the agenda counselors", "start": 6499, "end": 6504.4}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 6504.4, "end": 6538.76}, {"text": "councelor Cole please councelor mlo", "start": 6541.88, "end": 6547.63}, {"text": "[Music] please councelor", "start": 6547.63, "end": 6554.04}, {"text": "Fletcher thank you [Music]", "start": 6554.04, "end": 6565.65}, {"text": "the motion to end debate to carries the vote is 15 to", "start": 6569.159, "end": 6574.198}, {"text": "five okay so let's put the Motions on the", "start": 6576.599, "end": 6581.599}, {"text": "screen motion by councelor Moyes all in favor 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6659.079}, {"text": "is 4959 Lawrence Avenue East okay go ahead thank you through the speaker and", "start": 6659.079, "end": 6666.48}, {"text": "I just uh also wish to ask for a recorded vote on this item um I can't go", "start": 6666.48, "end": 6672.239}, {"text": "into specifics as much of the report is confidential but I do want to share that the reason I'll be voting against the", "start": 6672.239, "end": 6677.719}, {"text": "recommendations today um are because the residents have been really largely cut out of this", "start": 6677.719, "end": 6683.84}, {"text": "process in the absence of a local counselor this application has been pushed quickly through to the Olt", "start": 6683.84, "end": 6690.239}, {"text": "process and despite the local residents association's ongoing involvement there has not been an opportunity for them to", "start": 6690.239, "end": 6696.36}, {"text": "provide subst substantial feedback the province has really put the city and", "start": 6696.36, "end": 6701.4}, {"text": "this city council in a very difficult position with respect to the recent planning legislation and has removed the", "start": 6701.4, "end": 6708.52}, {"text": "opportunity for local input um and given more decis ision making power to the", "start": 6708.52, "end": 6713.8}, {"text": "unelected Olt Ontario land tribunal this particular site that we're talking about", "start": 6713.8, "end": 6719.159}, {"text": "was not included in the updates to the major streets through the expanding housing options in neighborhoods program", "start": 6719.159, "end": 6727.079}, {"text": "and an application of this scale on 100 foot lot would be precedent setting in this community and they are very", "start": 6727.079, "end": 6733.159}, {"text": "concerned and while we all understand the need to prioritize housing we also need to ensure that our communities have", "start": 6733.159, "end": 6739.639}, {"text": "input into the planning process because we know that this results in better development projects and it also um", "start": 6739.639, "end": 6746.599}, {"text": "ensures that our neighborhoods uh remain inviting and uh wonderful spaces to uh", "start": 6746.599, "end": 6753.199}, {"text": "live work and play so I really feel we need more time uh and to give this very", "start": 6753.199, "end": 6758.28}, {"text": "engaged community and opportunity to have a voice uh and so I just will be asking for a recorded vote and I thank", "start": 6758.28, "end": 6764.32}, {"text": "uh my colleagues for indulging moving up this up on the agenda so that staff could leave thank you okay so recorded", "start": 6764.32, "end": 6771.32}, {"text": "vote [Music]", "start": 6771.32, "end": 6800.48}, {"text": "councelor chran please councelor Bradford [Music]", "start": 6800.48, "end": 6814.52}, {"text": "Council prut how do you vote", "start": 6814.52, "end": 6817.84}, {"text": "please the item carries the vote is 15-7", "start": 6823.119, "end": 6828.32}, {"text": "so our next item is I 17.3 temporary street closure for the", "start": 6836.96, "end": 6844.079}, {"text": "eastbound Gardener Expressway councelor Pastak you held the item down do we have", "start": 6844.079, "end": 6849.28}, {"text": "questions to staff okay questions to staff councelor", "start": 6849.28, "end": 6858.28}, {"text": "pack can you put your hold on can you just put your name on the list please", "start": 6858.28, "end": 6863.56}, {"text": "there you go okay uh yes thank you thank you madam speaker um so I'm looking at this", "start": 6863.56, "end": 6871.199}, {"text": "request here and it it's pretty benign it's it's pretty normal but then it it triggers questions about uh the future", "start": 6871.199, "end": 6877.719}, {"text": "of the gardener and the dawn Valley Parkway now the uh New Deal was announced in November 2003", "start": 6877.719, "end": 6886.44}, {"text": "23 and you're doing I guess you're through going through a due diligence uh", "start": 6886.44, "end": 6891.56}, {"text": "now now according to the memorandum of understanding between the city and the province that due diligence is to be", "start": 6891.56, "end": 6898.199}, {"text": "complete by the end of next month are we on target to meet that", "start": 6898.199, "end": 6904.239}, {"text": "deadline or is that a question for legal oh through", "start": 6904.239, "end": 6910.76}, {"text": "the through the speaker I'm just seeing if the let to go ahead through the", "start": 6910.76, "end": 6917.28}, {"text": "speaker my understanding is that uh the ongoing due diligence that's been happening will will carry through the", "start": 6917.28, "end": 6923.92}, {"text": "end of 2025 that's my understanding I I'm just", "start": 6923.92, "end": 6930.44}, {"text": "looking to I didn't know the city manager was in the same well under the the the New Deal framework I think that", "start": 6930.44, "end": 6936.8}, {"text": "the you were to have a master agreement by the end of the year somebody want to answer this maybe", "start": 6936.8, "end": 6943.599}, {"text": "legal can help us out I don't know the answer to this", "start": 6943.599, "end": 6947.96}, {"text": "question we expect the due diligence exercise to be completed by the end of the calendar year yes so the end of next", "start": 6949, "end": 6956.76}, {"text": "month yes okay so um there's a lot to deal with here there's uh there's the", "start": 6956.76, "end": 6963.88}, {"text": "capital there's uh policing uh I mean are we covering off", "start": 6963.88, "end": 6969.44}, {"text": "things like renaming uh will the O when will the opp take over are these are these the issues", "start": 6969.44, "end": 6976.719}, {"text": "that are that are being discussed okay councelor Pastak", "start": 6976.719, "end": 6982.36}, {"text": "you'll have to ask questions on what we have before us your questions are not on the item well uh Madam speaker I can I", "start": 6982.36, "end": 6990.599}, {"text": "can ask whether the province will be controlling temporary street closures and", "start": 6990.599, "end": 6996.079}, {"text": "permits yeah that question is okay good so through the speaker the uh", "start": 6996.079, "end": 7002.079}, {"text": "the New Deal where we are at the moment is we've provided a load of um information we've uploaded a load of", "start": 7002.079, "end": 7008.599}, {"text": "data to MTO MTO and their consultant teams are reviewing that data at the moment they're undertaking the due", "start": 7008.599, "end": 7014.679}, {"text": "diligence process uh it's only once they've completed that that we'll start to get into the detail of the", "start": 7014.679, "end": 7020.239}, {"text": "discussions and the negotiations of exactly what will be included in the upload exactly when the upload will take", "start": 7020.239, "end": 7025.92}, {"text": "place so we don't know those details at the moment so for the purposes of operation and maintenance of both the", "start": 7025.92, "end": 7031.88}, {"text": "gardener and the Don Valley Parkway they currently still remain the responsibility of transportation", "start": 7031.88, "end": 7038.599}, {"text": "services and when it comes to uh policing is there framework for when the op will take over the policing of The Da", "start": 7038.599, "end": 7046.52}, {"text": "Valley Park where in the garden uh through the speaker those discussions haven't yet taken", "start": 7046.52, "end": 7052.719}, {"text": "place yeah councelor pastr it's not on WE we'll leave it at that but you know", "start": 7053.96, "end": 7059.92}, {"text": "when when we bring this forward it triggers the questions of what is going on with those two highway I know but", "start": 7059.92, "end": 7065.88}, {"text": "that's not what's before us what's before us is it it's the item so ask questions on what's before us okay I I", "start": 7065.88, "end": 7073.32}, {"text": "touched on that I'd like to know who controls permitting when the agreement's done I got somewhat of an answer okay", "start": 7073.32, "end": 7080.4}, {"text": "thank", "start": 7080.4, "end": 7082.599}, {"text": "you count counc Fletcher you have a", "start": 7086.119, "end": 7091.28}, {"text": "question close this road for this event or", "start": 7091.4, "end": 7096.44}, {"text": "not through the speaker yes uh the Don Valley Parkway and the Garder remain", "start": 7096.44, "end": 7103.52}, {"text": "City roads at this point in time to make disclosure thank you", "start": 7103.52, "end": 7110.52}, {"text": "correct all right just do you want to speak on it councelor Pat Uh or just", "start": 7110.599, "end": 7115.92}, {"text": "move the item move the item oh my gosh on the", "start": 7115.92, "end": 7122.88}, {"text": "item on favor", "start": 7122.88, "end": 7129.639}, {"text": "pardon oh councelor holiday wants a recorded [Music]", "start": 7130.239, "end": 7139.159}, {"text": "vote recorded vote councelor holiday you asked for recorded vote right yeah okay", "start": 7139.159, "end": 7148.638}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 7157.76, "end": 7172.869}, {"text": "councelor Bradford", "start": 7174.56, "end": 7177.44}, {"text": "please councelor chrisy please", "start": 7182.4, "end": 7187.36}, {"text": "the item is adopted the vote is 19-2 thank", "start": 7195.36, "end": 7202.32}, {"text": "you our next item is ph1 16.1 housing", "start": 7202.76, "end": 7208.239}, {"text": "action plan as of right zoning councelor Bradford you held the item down do we", "start": 7208.239, "end": 7213.8}, {"text": "have questions councel holiday I see your name up there do you have a question for", "start": 7213.8, "end": 7219.56}, {"text": "this one okay councelor holl questions um thank you I don't think", "start": 7219.56, "end": 7224.92}, {"text": "they'll take long may I ask the clerks to display the map that I sent", "start": 7224.92, "end": 7230.56}, {"text": "um could you just hold my time for a sec while we get a change over in a second", "start": 7230.56, "end": 7236.079}, {"text": "I'll hold your", "start": 7236.079, "end": 7238.679}, {"text": "time got the thumbs up we get to go okay okay thank you", "start": 7247.079, "end": 7252.679}, {"text": "um this particular policy item is one among a constellation of", "start": 7252.679, "end": 7259.36}, {"text": "several if I and let me know if I'm correct in in explaining this or confirming this or could you", "start": 7259.36, "end": 7266}, {"text": "confirm this is a proposal to change the as of right Heights and some", "start": 7266, "end": 7273.079}, {"text": "of the building standards on midrise buildings on Avenues where there's no", "start": 7273.079, "end": 7279.4}, {"text": "Avenue study so it's it's a category of the Avenues within the", "start": 7279.4, "end": 7284.639}, {"text": "city through the speaker that's correct and I I I could elaborate to explain", "start": 7284.639, "end": 7291.28}, {"text": "those structures so we have Avenues identified in the official plan right our policies for many years have been to", "start": 7291.28, "end": 7297.96}, {"text": "establish as of right zoning through local studies on each of them yep uh in", "start": 7297.96, "end": 7304.32}, {"text": "20 uh in the in the mid 201s we brought forward city-wide guidelines to guide uh", "start": 7304.32, "end": 7312.4}, {"text": "mid-rise development because we were finding that local Avenue studies were", "start": 7312.4, "end": 7317.96}, {"text": "too labor intensive and we weren't putting in place the policies that we need to enable intensification and this is now taking that a further step if we", "start": 7317.96, "end": 7324.8}, {"text": "look into the details of this report we get a helpful map and it it it it shows that this proposal is fairly Limited in", "start": 7324.8, "end": 7331.44}, {"text": "scope in terms of the geography that it would affect because a lot of places have Avenue studies some Avenues already", "start": 7331.44, "end": 7338.199}, {"text": "have studies and some Avenues need to be taken to a slightly different process in this now the other areas will go through", "start": 7338.199, "end": 7345.119}, {"text": "different process now I showed or I asked the clerk to show this map the map's on the screen it came from the planning department this map is another", "start": 7345.119, "end": 7352.44}, {"text": "policy initiative where planning is looking at where other avenues may be", "start": 7352.44, "end": 7359.4}, {"text": "defined and through the speaker that's correct and the supplementary report lays out quite a comprehensive program", "start": 7359.4, "end": 7366.639}, {"text": "of uh initiatives related to Avenues so that there can be a full understanding because there's a lot going on and and", "start": 7366.639, "end": 7372.32}, {"text": "I'm grateful for that but the point I want to make and leave for Council if I understand this right the map before you", "start": 7372.32, "end": 7379}, {"text": "is the draft map of other places Council may decide to designate Avenues and it's", "start": 7379, "end": 7384.04}, {"text": "fairly extensive I don't know what you call the color on the map tan or brown or whatever it is but there's quite a be", "start": 7384.04, "end": 7390.44}, {"text": "quite a few places under discussion is that that's correct right that's correct we took an extensive view of of major", "start": 7390.44, "end": 7396.88}, {"text": "streets that we could take a look at and do I understand correctly if if Council adopts that map or something similar to", "start": 7396.88, "end": 7403.52}, {"text": "it in a future decision this policy applies uh through the speaker not", "start": 7403.52, "end": 7410.44}, {"text": "exactly uh what I would say is it it would be a logical step and certainly the recommendation of staff that we", "start": 7410.44, "end": 7416.92}, {"text": "enable and Implement uh any additional Avenues through as of right zoning right", "start": 7416.92, "end": 7422.559}, {"text": "so that they can proceed uh through a more streamlined planning approval process right there would be a zoning report", "start": 7422.559, "end": 7428.52}, {"text": "so is it a fair thing to say to my colleague that in considering this", "start": 7428.52, "end": 7433.599}, {"text": "report we should be cognizant about the potential increase in scale and scope of", "start": 7433.599, "end": 7439.639}, {"text": "avenues because of that other initiative and that other map that I'm sharing like we shouldn't forget about those other", "start": 7439.639, "end": 7445.119}, {"text": "studies through the speaker I think the full scope of the Avenue's work program is relevant and is part of uh the", "start": 7445.119, "end": 7453.04}, {"text": "intensification strategy that we have brought forward many times and we're looking to uh continue to expand upon", "start": 7453.04, "end": 7460.199}, {"text": "that strategy okay and just very quickly we'll have a last minute left one of the other changes is to the performance", "start": 7460.199, "end": 7466}, {"text": "standards of the building I I'm going to characterize it as the proposal is to make the buildings more", "start": 7466, "end": 7473.52}, {"text": "boxy do I understand correctly that that the previous guidelines for mid-rise", "start": 7473.52, "end": 7478.639}, {"text": "buildings had a had an idea that they would be stepped down on the transition side and part of that was a step down in", "start": 7478.639, "end": 7485.76}, {"text": "scale of the built form but also especially where it's applicable is Sky", "start": 7485.76, "end": 7492.04}, {"text": "views and access to Sun it was a rationale as to why we asked for mid-rise buildings to be that", "start": 7492.04, "end": 7498.88}, {"text": "shape through the speaker the rear transition in particular uh was purposed to create a", "start": 7498.88, "end": 7507.28}, {"text": "physical transition between midrise buildings and uh lower scale properties", "start": 7507.28, "end": 7512.96}, {"text": "in neighborhoods uh the the importance of sun access I would say is more of a", "start": 7512.96, "end": 7518.079}, {"text": "priority not on adjacent neighborhoods properties but on the the public public realm at the front of the buildings fair", "start": 7518.079, "end": 7524.119}, {"text": "enough um is it fair to say and this is my understanding is there's some", "start": 7524.119, "end": 7529.96}, {"text": "concessions to that angle of transition or that and has become more boxy but the", "start": 7529.96, "end": 7535.159}, {"text": "driver in that is an economic one it is to make more GFA make a building cheaper", "start": 7535.159, "end": 7541.4}, {"text": "to build easier to build it's the preference of the development Community to go to that built", "start": 7541.4, "end": 7547.32}, {"text": "form trly speaker I would say we have received feedback from the development community as well as many other public", "start": 7547.32, "end": 7553.4}, {"text": "stakeholders that a more simplified rear transition would be beneficial and make", "start": 7553.4, "end": 7558.48}, {"text": "make more sense we've reflected that feedback in our recommendations thank you", "start": 7558.48, "end": 7563.52}, {"text": "speaker thank", "start": 7563.52, "end": 7566.719}, {"text": "you councelor Burnside yeah thank Madam speaker um I", "start": 7569.8, "end": 7575.079}, {"text": "just have a question as it pertains to recommendation 3 subb reexamine older", "start": 7575.079, "end": 7580.44}, {"text": "Avenue studies and consider opportunities to align height Etc so what exactly or could do you mean by", "start": 7580.44, "end": 7587.76}, {"text": "that and maybe you could give me an as an example of an older Avenue study", "start": 7587.76, "end": 7592.88}, {"text": "that's out of whack with um these new uh as right", "start": 7592.88, "end": 7599.84}, {"text": "permissions through this speaker and uh apologies councelor my uh my team are just looking for a good example but I", "start": 7599.84, "end": 7605.84}, {"text": "will say um there are there's a handful four or five Avenue studies that were done very early", "start": 7605.84, "end": 7612.04}, {"text": "in the days of our our policy framework uh that uh brought forward uh uh", "start": 7612.04, "end": 7619.719}, {"text": "development rights for Heights and densities that are actually lower than we would expect to see today because the heights are less than the right of way", "start": 7619.719, "end": 7626.639}, {"text": "of the or less than the width of the adjacent RightWay and the densities are somewhat underperforming what could be", "start": 7626.639, "end": 7632.559}, {"text": "accommodated on those Avenues and so the notion would be that there's there is an opportunity to go back and look at those", "start": 7632.559, "end": 7637.719}, {"text": "that handful of studies and see whether the height and density permissions that were studied at this point 15 or 20", "start": 7637.719, "end": 7645.239}, {"text": "years ago whether there's an opportunity to reincrease those so to bring those those", "start": 7645.239, "end": 7651.639}, {"text": "permissions up as it says in the recommendation up to date and", "start": 7651.639, "end": 7657.079}, {"text": "uh you know raise those Heights or densities or whatever the case so it might be so it's more uniform across the", "start": 7657.079, "end": 7663.48}, {"text": "city is that basically what it is that's that's a potential outcome of that review obviously we'd want to look at", "start": 7663.48, "end": 7668.92}, {"text": "those studies and uh assess assess them again our current expectations but that's one potential outcome correct", "start": 7668.92, "end": 7675.28}, {"text": "okay thank you um did you get an example or uh there one example is along St", "start": 7675.28, "end": 7682.8}, {"text": "Clair West a study that was done very fairly early in our uh policy", "start": 7682.8, "end": 7688.44}, {"text": "regime okay thank you thank", "start": 7688.44, "end": 7694.28}, {"text": "you councilor Carol yes thank you madam speaker it's really just a quick question I I likely won't have to speak", "start": 7695.559, "end": 7702.04}, {"text": "based on the answer um I I zero I went straight in this report to read the the", "start": 7702.04, "end": 7708.52}, {"text": "section on the PPS because I I wondered as I started to read it if this is similar to what what we're going through", "start": 7708.52, "end": 7715.679}, {"text": "in our exercise uh on renew up in my area these are changes that they give us", "start": 7715.679, "end": 7722.84}, {"text": "more opportunity for housing by by looking at the rear transition but really they also reflect changes that", "start": 7722.84, "end": 7729.599}, {"text": "might be driven by the PPS of if we don't update this policy now anyway to", "start": 7729.599, "end": 7735.079}, {"text": "reflect that that density am I right about that uh in in part through the speaker", "start": 7735.079, "end": 7741.559}, {"text": "you're correct about that particularly where Avenues intersect with our major transit station areas there will be an", "start": 7741.559, "end": 7748.199}, {"text": "expectation that we accommodate significant amounts of height and density on those properties in order to meet the provinces and our own housing", "start": 7748.199, "end": 7755.199}, {"text": "goals uh there are other areas where uh you know I would say Avenues may not be", "start": 7755.199, "end": 7761.599}, {"text": "uh driven to intensification by the provincial policy standard but the city", "start": 7761.599, "end": 7767.119}, {"text": "of Toronto and our official plan we've had a long practice of looking to Avenues as a place where we can", "start": 7767.119, "end": 7772.44}, {"text": "accommodate growth and this continues that policy imperative and continues to", "start": 7772.44, "end": 7778.719}, {"text": "look at avenues as a resource to accommodate uh growth in the population that we will see over the next many", "start": 7778.719, "end": 7784.599}, {"text": "decades right right okay thank you thank you", "start": 7784.599, "end": 7791.678}, {"text": "councelor perks questions yes yes yes yes um thank you uh the proposal that", "start": 7794.639, "end": 7803.32}, {"text": "you've got here is for a very generic upzoning along our Avenues roughly", "start": 7803.32, "end": 7809.719}, {"text": "speaking through the speaker this proposal is for a Citywide standard rather than a set of standards that very", "start": 7809.719, "end": 7816.84}, {"text": "slightly depending on the the specific Avenue they're located on and the uh", "start": 7816.84, "end": 7823.76}, {"text": "guideline that you've sort of established here is is relating the height of the building to the width of", "start": 7823.76, "end": 7828.96}, {"text": "the street through the speaker that's correct that's grounded in our official plan policy and it's grounded in the", "start": 7828.96, "end": 7834.639}, {"text": "guidelines that we've had in place for many years there have been some voices in the public and I think also some", "start": 7834.639, "end": 7840.239}, {"text": "members of council who say you know we should consider going even further if we", "start": 7840.239, "end": 7845.36}, {"text": "were to go further uh that wouldn't would would you recommend that we just do that by motion or would you need to", "start": 7845.36, "end": 7852}, {"text": "do uh some more detailed work because then you start getting into real impacts", "start": 7852, "end": 7857.4}, {"text": "through the through the speaker I would say that a a motion would be ill advised", "start": 7857.4, "end": 7862.92}, {"text": "uh and the one of the obvious impacts that we would want to uh address would", "start": 7862.92, "end": 7868.36}, {"text": "be the potential loss of sunlight access on the north side of our on our Avenues", "start": 7868.36, "end": 7873.559}, {"text": "and uh and understand what quality uh we would be giving up in terms of the public space and whether that's a", "start": 7873.559, "end": 7879.559}, {"text": "tradeoff that City count and the citizens of Toronto would really want to make so a motion would be be ill advised", "start": 7879.559, "end": 7886.4}, {"text": "but if we wanted to explore something I do the speaker a motion to study that and to look at what our opportunities", "start": 7886.4, "end": 7892.559}, {"text": "might be what the options would be how we might uh create zoning standards that find a good balance between sunlight", "start": 7892.559, "end": 7898.44}, {"text": "access and our desires for intensification a study could uncover some uh potential solutions for that", "start": 7898.44, "end": 7904.4}, {"text": "thank you", "start": 7904.4, "end": 7907.559}, {"text": "councelor Fletcher questions yes I just wanted to follow up on Council Burnside uh under the rule of no surprises what", "start": 7912.52, "end": 7919.88}, {"text": "are all those uh avenues that you are going in to change St Clair what else", "start": 7919.88, "end": 7927.199}, {"text": "please sorry can you sorry through the speaker uh dundry West and runville", "start": 7933.76, "end": 7939.4}, {"text": "Avenue uh Broadview Avenue between Danforth and Hillside Drive Avenue Road", "start": 7939.4, "end": 7944.44}, {"text": "from Lawrence Avenue to Wilson Avenue are a few examples sorry Broadview", "start": 7944.44, "end": 7950.44}, {"text": "Avenue has an official plan and a Avenue study so are you what are you suggesting", "start": 7950.44, "end": 7955.88}, {"text": "for that through this through the speaker broadw EV has an official plan uh and a", "start": 7955.88, "end": 7961.8}, {"text": "study completed does not have implementing zoning uh there are parts of Broadview Avenue where the permitted", "start": 7961.8, "end": 7967.36}, {"text": "Heights are less than the right of way width and so I'm sorry such as there there are", "start": 7967.36, "end": 7974.239}, {"text": "portions of that street I don't I don't know them specifically but I I do recall well that there are uh parts of", "start": 7974.239, "end": 7980.52}, {"text": "Broadview Avenue that are wider than other parts of Broadview Avenue and so the the uh official plan suggests", "start": 7980.52, "end": 7988.199}, {"text": "Heights that are less than the width of the r of way and that would be one thing that we could look at if we were looking", "start": 7988.199, "end": 7994.32}, {"text": "for opportunities and we'd assess whether that makes sense for that particular so you're making these changes or you're thinking about these", "start": 7994.32, "end": 8000.239}, {"text": "changes that's that would be a potential future study that's outlined as a future", "start": 8000.239, "end": 8005.96}, {"text": "work program in the supplementary report you're aware that there's quite a few uh", "start": 8005.96, "end": 8011.079}, {"text": "reports or or applications that are in that actually are greater than the six", "start": 8011.079, "end": 8016.159}, {"text": "stories there because of the Olt and other moves are you not that's correct I am aware of site specific approvals and", "start": 8016.159, "end": 8023.159}, {"text": "applications uh on that street that uh go above the the heights that were contemplated in that Avenue study in", "start": 8023.159, "end": 8030.28}, {"text": "fact is there anything come in at that height I through the speaker I'm afraid", "start": 8030.28, "end": 8037.239}, {"text": "I don't know the answer to that question confidently so you don't know the answer if there's anything above that height", "start": 8037.239, "end": 8043.44}, {"text": "and yet we're going to go and study that there should be something more above that height is that what you're suggesting", "start": 8043.44, "end": 8049.84}, {"text": "here through the speaker and I may have misunderstood you what I what I can't", "start": 8049.84, "end": 8054.92}, {"text": "say definitively if there are development proposals that have come in", "start": 8054.92, "end": 8060.32}, {"text": "at the height contemplated in the Avenue study as I noted I am aware of examples where proposals have exceeded the height", "start": 8060.32, "end": 8067.4}, {"text": "and gone through a sight specific zoning application are there any that have come in at the Avenue study hi through the", "start": 8067.4, "end": 8073.4}, {"text": "speaker as I noted I don't know offand that I could answer that question", "start": 8073.4, "end": 8078.84}, {"text": "correctly so uh how will this come forward so there's no surprises because people don't like surprises as you will", "start": 8078.84, "end": 8085.88}, {"text": "know uh through the speaker we would as we often do with our studies bring forward proposals reports lay out", "start": 8085.88, "end": 8091.84}, {"text": "exactly what areas of the city we would study and how we would engage with the public how we", "start": 8091.84, "end": 8098.28}, {"text": "would I'm sorry what would you do with the local counselor how would you bring that forward we would certainly be uh", "start": 8098.44, "end": 8104.679}, {"text": "briefing the local counselor of those particular studies before any of those Advance you'd be briefing that you're", "start": 8104.679, "end": 8109.84}, {"text": "starting a study or you'd come to say you'd like to start a study and get permission which one through the speaker", "start": 8109.84, "end": 8116.28}, {"text": "we would be briefing uh we typically don't seek the permission of a counselor to start a study but we would certainly", "start": 8116.28, "end": 8122.92}, {"text": "bring them in the loop and consult with them on how we would go about doing that I see so", "start": 8122.92, "end": 8129.079}, {"text": "uh this would just give you the as of right to initiate a study and are you're", 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"studies to planning and housing and let us know how you're planning to roll that out so at least we'll see that rather", "start": 8172.199, "end": 8177.92}, {"text": "than be announced that that's happening is that possible vote through the speaker at the time of the future when", "start": 8177.92, "end": 8183.84}, {"text": "when we are intending to start that that would be a first step there are other items on the work program that are", "start": 8183.84, "end": 8190.32}, {"text": "higher priority than these so I'm just looking that you'll bring that here's all the studies here's when we're starting them comprehensive that", "start": 8190.32, "end": 8197.518}, {"text": "everybody knows that so we see that report before we just get that dropped on to the speaker that's correct so just", "start": 8197.519, "end": 8205.478}, {"text": "let me be clear your process again please last question through the", "start": 8205.479, "end": 8213.558}, {"text": "speaker through the speaker we would initiate a study uh after consultation", "start": 8213.559, "end": 8219.399}, {"text": "with the local counselor and by uh bringing a report to", "start": 8219.4, "end": 8224.439}, {"text": "the appropriate committee to lay out the work program and the fact that a study was being initiated and as we typically", "start": 8224.44, "end": 8230.96}, {"text": "do in those reports also lay out our approach to consultation thank you okay Council Brer", "start": 8230.96, "end": 8238.638}, {"text": "you held the item down you can speak okay just one", "start": 8238.639, "end": 8245}, {"text": "moment we'll go to the speakers", "start": 8245, "end": 8249.92}, {"text": "list okay councelor Bradford to speak thanks Madam speaker uh I have a", "start": 8251.16, "end": 8257.92}, {"text": "motion here and this is asking staff to consider increasing the Hy permissions", "start": 8257.92, "end": 8263.399}, {"text": "from to 12 stories on our avenues that are served by frequent Transit uh this is just uh to have them", "start": 8263.4, "end": 8270.96}, {"text": "report back to phc in the first quarter of 2025 which as we heard from our chief", "start": 8270.96, "end": 8276.678}, {"text": "planner uh something that uh they would be open to considering and looking into", "start": 8276.679, "end": 8282}, {"text": "and um the current recommendations is between 6 and 11 as you guys have uh seen and I think I've heard directly", "start": 8282, "end": 8289.12}, {"text": "from folks who are building housing here in the city that projects below 12 stories on our our Avenues are just not", "start": 8289.12, "end": 8295.24}, {"text": "really practically or financially feasible right now uh and so that's not going to accompl our goal of having more", "start": 8295.24, "end": 8302.24}, {"text": "ambition for housing and getting housing built here in the city on our Avenues uh", "start": 8302.24, "end": 8307.96}, {"text": "committee we already asked staff to go back and complete some extra work to increase that ambition on our Avenues", "start": 8307.96, "end": 8314.598}, {"text": "and uh I've moved a motion directing staff to do that where we have rapid transit we also asked staff to look at", "start": 8314.599, "end": 8321.359}, {"text": "uh existing avenues that uh had studies that were approved a number of years ago", "start": 8321.36, "end": 8327.2}, {"text": "and uh seeing if that could be brought into alignment with what we have here today so that there aren't any", "start": 8327.2, "end": 8332.92}, {"text": "discrepancies across the city on that front staff are going to be reporting back on this as part of the Avenue's", "start": 8332.92, "end": 8338.598}, {"text": "policy review coming in q1 2025 so as you heard from the chief planner there uh this would fit into that report back", "start": 8338.599, "end": 8345.8}, {"text": "nicely and they would be able to provide our us with some recommendations and some of the uh the feedback that uh that", "start": 8345.8, "end": 8354.04}, {"text": "we heard from uh our chief planner um speaking on the item now I would just", "start": 8354.04, "end": 8359.439}, {"text": "like to thank Kyle and and his team and city planning for their excellent work on the Avenues policy additionally on", "start": 8359.44, "end": 8366.12}, {"text": "the midrise buildings work that's coming forward also uh when I was a chair of planning and housing we had penned the", "start": 8366.12, "end": 8372.28}, {"text": "housing action plan which provided a bunch of recommendations to sort of unpack and fix some of these issues that", "start": 8372.281, "end": 8378.598}, {"text": "have been holding housing back here in the city since amalgamation uh and this amendment", "start": 8378.599, "end": 8383.8}, {"text": "that's in front of us here this proposal theoretically could unlock 61,000 units", "start": 8383.8, "end": 8389.08}, {"text": "of of housing on our Avenues um four times what have what would have been achievable with the 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to move ahead and help with the supply that the city desperately needs so I'm happy to have", "start": 8434.8, "end": 8440.399}, {"text": "this motion come forward to have staff consider that and report back as part of their uh their work that's coming to phc", "start": 8440.399, "end": 8446.88}, {"text": "in in 2025 q1 um because quite frankly I think when you look at land costs when", "start": 8446.88, "end": 8452.439}, {"text": "you look at construction costs Labor uh all of the the challenges or let's call it headwinds facing getting shovels in", "start": 8452.439, "end": 8458.72}, {"text": "the ground on projects here in the city of Toronto we ought to be trying to remove barriers streamline process and", "start": 8458.72, "end": 8464.52}, {"text": "one of the best things we can do which is what this work speaks to is modernizing our zoning byon our", "start": 8464.52, "end": 8470.399}, {"text": "regulations to make sure that these projects are viable as of right versus having to go through a long and arduous", "start": 8470.399, "end": 8476.68}, {"text": "process uh to rezone sites and uh you know with some of the stuff today you're still likely to come in for variances if", "start": 8476.68, "end": 8483.359}, {"text": "not additional zoning to actually make those sites work and that kind of undermines the work that we have in front of us so that's a motion and uh", "start": 8483.359, "end": 8490.76}, {"text": "hope you can hope you can support it thanks Madam speaker thank", "start": 8490.76, "end": 8496.439}, {"text": "you we do have questions for you councelor mantis three minutes", "start": 8496.439, "end": 8502.399}, {"text": "clarification of the motion thank you Madame speaker um to", "start": 8502.399, "end": 8508.399}, {"text": "councelor Bradford the I understand on AVU such as uh", "start": 8508.399, "end": 8514.6}, {"text": "shepher Finch or even Victoria Park uh as we have uh walked uh huntingwood", "start": 8514.6, "end": 8521.16}, {"text": "drive as an example right um in the past would you consider huntingwood drive to", "start": 8521.16, "end": 8527.24}, {"text": "have a 12-story uh building on the uh on the", "start": 8527.24, "end": 8532.399}, {"text": "Frontage of the road I you're going to let staff identify those additional opportunities and so they can come back", "start": 8532.399, "end": 8539.56}, {"text": "to that back to us with in q1 of 2025 okay thank you", "start": 8539.56, "end": 8547.319}, {"text": "thanks councelor holiday questions um thank you speaker I just I want to make", "start": 8549.72, "end": 8555.16}, {"text": "sure I understand your intention councel Bradford you saw the map where I showed", "start": 8555.16, "end": 8560.68}, {"text": "all of the tan colored avenues that are up for discussion expansion Avenues and", "start": 8560.68, "end": 8566.2}, {"text": "it's quite comprehensive if I understand this carefully of all the pieces all in place", "start": 8566.2, "end": 8571.359}, {"text": "assuming all the approvals happen somebody on one of those Avenues", "start": 8571.359, "end": 8576.479}, {"text": "where there isn't a a multi-story building within sight for kilometers could walk out and find a", "start": 8576.479, "end": 8584.6}, {"text": "12-story building behind their house behind their house or in front of", "start": 8584.6, "end": 8590.12}, {"text": "their house well if they're a if it's a back lot or in front of their house where there was a bungalow before there's now a 12-story building yeah I", "start": 8590.12, "end": 8597.479}, {"text": "think if it qualifies as something that's designated as an a you um yeah", "start": 8597.479, "end": 8603.359}, {"text": "it's like I'm asking staff to look at that and but and the other key with this report is that it's as of right so not", "start": 8603.359, "end": 8609.84}, {"text": "only can they walk out and see that they could actually not even know it was going to come and find out they have no", "start": 8609.84, "end": 8616.72}, {"text": "saying it well yeah I mean like this is a this is a request for them to look at", "start": 8616.72, "end": 8622.359}, {"text": "that and so uh you know they can they can do that work and it'll go through planning and housing committee that will", "start": 8622.359, "end": 8628.72}, {"text": "be uh you know you might have that come back in a proposals report there' be consultation around that but it's direction for them to look at that okay", "start": 8628.72, "end": 8635.72}, {"text": "yeah thank", "start": 8635.72, "end": 8638.16}, {"text": "you hello okay thank", "start": 8641.64, "end": 8646}, {"text": "you counselor Fletcher questions generally", "start": 8646.68, "end": 8652.76}, {"text": "the midrise guidelines it's the right of way the lid width of the right of way", "start": 8652.76, "end": 8658.279}, {"text": "the height of the building are you suggesting that that would change to apply the", "start": 8658.279, "end": 8663.96}, {"text": "midrise guidelines on all the Avenues as of right that we would not apply them as", "start": 8663.96, "end": 8669.359}, {"text": "midrise guidelines as we know them 20 M 20 MERS that they'd be 20 MERS and maybe", "start": 8669.359, "end": 8676.52}, {"text": "30 MERS so uh how do you how are you planning to do that in this motion well we're updating our mid-rise guidelines", "start": 8676.52, "end": 8683.24}, {"text": "so those are those are changing and you're going to see that coming through committee shortly so sorry you're updating the midrise guidelines to be", "start": 8683.24, "end": 8690}, {"text": "greater than the right of way is that now is that what you're telling me we'll have to see what comes forward in the staff report but there will be changes", "start": 8690, "end": 8696.2}, {"text": "to the mid-rise guidelines as I understand it but I think generally speaking um you know this is a request", "start": 8696.2, "end": 8702.56}, {"text": "for staff to look at that I think when you heard the the chief planner sort of speaking to questions from councelor Perks earlier there are things that they", "start": 8702.56, "end": 8709.12}, {"text": "would want to look at and consider and this is just direction for them to uh to take this away and consider it and", "start": 8709.12, "end": 8715.2}, {"text": "report back to phc q1 2025 did you ask for them to review the Miz guidelines or", "start": 8715.2, "end": 8721.479}, {"text": "they just doing that anyway uh as part of the housing action plan uh we review the 20 met so is that something you", "start": 8721.479, "end": 8728.04}, {"text": "think everybody knows about or it's a bunch of it's a bunch of different things it's quite a comprehensive review", "start": 8728.04, "end": 8733.479}, {"text": "uh angular plane is a big part of that because that's been problematic and challenging in different ways as well setbacks uh loading requirements all", "start": 8733.479, "end": 8740.88}, {"text": "that stuff is being looked at and considered all right thank you thanks", "start": 8740.88, "end": 8747.2}, {"text": "thank you", "start": 8747.2, "end": 8750.479}, {"text": "councel holiday to speak uh thank you speaker I cannot", "start": 8759.76, "end": 8765.04}, {"text": "underscore enough um to members of council how profoundly important and big this change", "start": 8765.04, "end": 8772.72}, {"text": "is even though I do not support it and I'd like to make sure that you think this through very very carefully Madam", "start": 8772.72, "end": 8779.12}, {"text": "speaker um in my questions I took time to put up the draft map uh that's", "start": 8779.12, "end": 8786.16}, {"text": "publicly available regarding where in the city Avenues May expand to and this", "start": 8786.16, "end": 8792.479}, {"text": "is really important especially if you're on the suburbs many of my colleagues on", "start": 8792.479, "end": 8797.56}, {"text": "Council have Avenue studies in the older urban areas of this city uh and 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crisis and they throw out the need to build this and do that and change change the the market go back and", "start": 8845.56, "end": 8853.52}, {"text": "look at the planning pipeline about the work that we've done at Council remind yourself that we exceeded our housing", "start": 8853.52, "end": 8859.92}, {"text": "Target and that should at least give you good footing to understand that you don't need to be panicked in making a", "start": 8859.92, "end": 8867.12}, {"text": "decision and that you should use good clear logic IC thinking and go back to First principles and the first", "start": 8867.12, "end": 8873.96}, {"text": "principles when you think about build form is understanding the relationship", "start": 8873.96, "end": 8879.68}, {"text": "between the human and the built form understanding the context around it understanding access to light access", "start": 8879.68, "end": 8887.92}, {"text": "to air having good built spaces outdoor areas outdoor amenities all of the", "start": 8887.92, "end": 8893.88}, {"text": "things all of the ingredients to that go into a good building what really bothers me about", "start": 8893.88, "end": 8900.279}, {"text": "this proposal and I I'm going to paraphrase it's not what the planning department says and and it's you know my", "start": 8900.279, "end": 8907}, {"text": "analysis of this is that you've got a development industry that's put pressure and said we'd like to build simple", "start": 8907, "end": 8914}, {"text": "boxier designs because it's good for us well what it's not necessarily good for", "start": 8914, "end": 8920.279}, {"text": "is the person that lives next to one of these developments and they are suddenly faced with a much Starker wall a taller", "start": 8920.279, "end": 8927.479}, {"text": "wall a poorer transition and I have to remind Council we're we're", "start": 8927.479, "end": 8933.08}, {"text": "here to protect the people that elected us and and put us in place here and trusted us to look after 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9250.72}, {"text": "neighborhood and has finally met the sweetheart of their lives and they want to get a starter place to live this", "start": 9250.72, "end": 9256.96}, {"text": "provides an option for those couples it literally expands the range of", "start": 9256.96, "end": 9263.24}, {"text": "housing types available in neighborhoods in the city of", "start": 9263.24, "end": 9268.84}, {"text": "Toronto now councelor Bradford has moved a motion I'm not sure about what the", "start": 9269.279, "end": 9276.399}, {"text": "impact will be but because he has asked staff who plainly told us there will be", "start": 9276.399, "end": 9282.92}, {"text": "instances where more is better and there will be instances where less is better then let them go do that work his", "start": 9282.92, "end": 9291.16}, {"text": "motion doesn't cement a conclusion but in closing I wanted to", "start": 9291.16, "end": 9297.04}, {"text": "take a step back and reflect on the way that this Council thinks about", "start": 9297.04, "end": 9302.76}, {"text": "interventions into the housing market earlier in this meeting we had a debate", "start": 9302.76, "end": 9309.08}, {"text": "about a bylaw to protect the rights of tenants against bad faith Ren evictions", "start": 9309.08, "end": 9316.52}, {"text": "and a member of this Council got up and with cons considerable Force said how", "start": 9316.52, "end": 9321.96}, {"text": "dare you make it more expensive for landlords you remember", "start": 9321.96, "end": 9328.76}, {"text": "that this will lead to there being less housing that same member of council just", "start": 9328.76, "end": 9336.439}, {"text": "got up on this item and said you know what the only reason they build the buildings bigger is because they want", "start": 9336.439, "end": 9344.359}, {"text": "profit why in one instance when we're protecting tenants is it a bad thing to", "start": 9344.359, "end": 9349.68}, {"text": "intervene in the market and we're when we're protecting 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9500.08}, {"text": "tired of the argument that we can't do anything when I'm going to give any extra density as of right I want as of", "start": 9500.08, "end": 9508.76}, {"text": "right affordable housing to come with it and that's also something that we'll be", "start": 9508.76, "end": 9514.92}, {"text": "discussing in q1 2025 thank you okay let's put the", "start": 9514.92, "end": 9521.479}, {"text": "Motions on the screen", "start": 9521.479, "end": 9525.52}, {"text": "Madam speaker can we have a recorded vote on all of them", "start": 9532.04, "end": 9538.279}, {"text": "okay motion by councelor Bradford", "start": 9538.279, "end": 9543.561}, {"text": "[Music]", "start": 9548.13, "end": 9556.129}, {"text": "councelor Chen", "start": 9571.2, "end": 9573.96}, {"text": "please can councelor canell please", "start": 9585.319, "end": 9590.439}, {"text": "and councelor chrisy when your sent", "start": 9590.72, "end": 9594.438}, {"text": "please yeah and mayor child", "start": 9600.279, 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okay councelor matlo your item is next cc23", "start": 9763.12, "end": 9771.12}, {"text": "3.8 councelor mat llo yes I have a uh I have an", "start": 9776.16, "end": 9783.601}, {"text": "amendment what's going on here I just don't know what's happening over", "start": 9785.479, "end": 9791.319}, {"text": "there coun per councelor matlo oh okay so you have", "start": 9791.359, "end": 9798.52}, {"text": "your motion on the screen thank you okay there's a motion by councelor", "start": 9798.52, "end": 9804}, {"text": "mat llo CC 23.8 all in", "start": 9804, "end": 9809.399}, {"text": "favor carried item is amended on in favor", "start": 9809.399, "end": 9816.12}, {"text": "carry CC 2312 councel Fletcher 685 Lakeshore", "start": 9816.12, "end": 9823.479}, {"text": "Boulevard councelor cletcher yep that's the the clerks now have all the Motions set up so I can just release that", "start": 9823.72, "end": 9830.72}, {"text": "speaker and everything's good thank you okay so if we can put the 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it uh brief and self-explanatory um and councelor perks", "start": 9896.08, "end": 9903.479}, {"text": "has reviewed it and he has no issue with it either thank you councelor", "start": 9903.479, "end": 9909.8}, {"text": "perks um I did want to just take a few seconds to offer a few comments because", "start": 9909.8, "end": 9914.88}, {"text": "this is important uh to the community of a toico center uh Madam speaker I will", "start": 9914.88, "end": 9920.72}, {"text": "not be voting in favor of this and I will be asking for a recorded vote members of council you can review the", "start": 9920.72, "end": 9927.16}, {"text": "solicitor's advice make your decision accordingly um I will point out that", "start": 9927.16, "end": 9932.52}, {"text": "this was reported publicly to us earlier in the year it was a refusal report on an application but if you dial back the", "start": 9932.52, "end": 9938.96}, {"text": "clock a little bit you'll learn that this is an infill development in an apartment neighborhood in the vicinity", "start": 9938.96, "end": 9945.279}, {"text": "of Rathburn in the 427 an area where there's a lot of development going on on and in", "start": 9945.279, "end": 9950.96}, {"text": "2018 an application was made to do some uh townhouse infills and to approve a", "start": 9950.96, "end": 9957.76}, {"text": "six-story building um that application in itself was difficult and controversial uh but we worked through", "start": 9957.76, "end": 9963.68}, {"text": "it and we landed on something um much to the uh disappointment of the community", "start": 9963.68, "end": 9970.56}, {"text": "an application came forward a few years later um the precursor leading up to this discussion uh for a 22 story", "start": 9970.56, "end": 9978.479}, {"text": "building in the place of that six-story building which is massive in scale uh", "start": 9978.479, "end": 9985.52}, {"text": "and this is nestled between two existing apartment buildings that have been there for a very very long time and has been a", "start": 9985.52, "end": 9992.08}, {"text": "very very challenging file and um the community uh just has not the the", "start": 9992.08, "end": 9999.359}, {"text": "concerns raised by the community have not been responded to or met uh some of that Community consultation is that", "start": 9999.359, "end": 10006.6}, {"text": "report is is posted here uh so I in good conscience cannot uh support this", "start": 10006.6, "end": 10012.359}, {"text": "development um and um I will not be supporting the report without revealing", "start": 10012.359, "end": 10017.84}, {"text": "the content of the report and I think the community understands that and", "start": 10017.84, "end": 10023.04}, {"text": "that's on um on the principle of what was proposed in um that earlier report", "start": 10023.04, "end": 10029.56}, {"text": "and I will also take a moment to highlight the damage uh that process has", "start": 10029.56, "end": 10034.76}, {"text": "particularly with the community goes through a development application lands on something and finds out that there's", "start": 10034.76, "end": 10041.319}, {"text": "another resubmission for something it's very very different and much larger and", "start": 10041.319, "end": 10047.88}, {"text": "I understand why people uh hold the city uh just generally speaking Council", "start": 10047.88, "end": 10054.359}, {"text": "everything in such contempt because it's so frustrating and this is a single example of it so I will um I will leave", "start": 10054.359, "end": 10061.68}, {"text": "it at that Madam speaker members of council can sort through this but I do ask for a recorded vote I'd like to be", "start": 10061.68, "end": 10067.6}, {"text": "on the record as uh refusing uh the information put before us", "start": 10067.6, "end": 10074.399}, {"text": "councelor Myers please and councelor mat llo [Music]", "start": 10120.68, "end": 10140.319}, {"text": "councelor mlo how do you vote", "start": 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{"text": "have diseases that need treatment where does it come from uh through the chair", "start": 10453.84, "end": 10459.439}, {"text": "um some of it is imported from other jurisdictions do we know what those jurisdictions are and whether or not", "start": 10459.439, "end": 10465.359}, {"text": "they pay people U some of th that product is it continues to be imported from the United States and they do uh", "start": 10465.359, "end": 10473}, {"text": "pay people uh for plasma in those other jurisdictions so either we pay people here or we rely on product brought in", "start": 10473, "end": 10480.319}, {"text": "that was paid for another places that we don't have any control", "start": 10480.319, "end": 10485.8}, {"text": "over uh through the chair I think it's important to note that uh all the uh", "start": 10485.84, "end": 10491.16}, {"text": "plasma no matter which um stream it comes from is uh regulated by the by the", "start": 10491.16, "end": 10496.64}, {"text": "federal government to ensure its uh um uh safety okay and I guess one final", "start": 10496.64, "end": 10504.439}, {"text": "question for the solicitor we we don't have the power to intervene on this um", "start": 10504.439, "end": 10510.92}, {"text": "the council can make statements and so on but really the legislation is the", "start": 10510.92, "end": 10516.68}, {"text": "legislation uh Canadian Blood Services will partner with who they deem uh they want to partner with and they have the", "start": 10516.68, "end": 10523.8}, {"text": "call as to whether or not they'll pay people that's correct that was your last question this is governed by provincial", "start": 10523.8, "end": 10529.52}, {"text": "legislation that's correct", "start": 10529.52, "end": 10534.6}, {"text": "counselor councelor Carol questions yes Madam chair um Madam", "start": 10539.479, "end": 10546.68}, {"text": "speaker I've been since this was held earlier I started looking looking up the", "start": 10546.68, "end": 10551.96}, {"text": "debate the debate on whether or not paid uh blood donations can lead to uh", "start": 10551.96, "end": 10558.92}, {"text": "present a higher risk that there's a higher incidence of of infection within", "start": 10558.92, "end": 10564.72}, {"text": "uh blood donations that are are from Paid donors there seems to be a debate raging that's it's it seems parallel to", "start": 10564.72, "end": 10572.92}, {"text": "the debate over whether or not it's bad to put fluoride in water I can find equal numbers of articles on both sides", "start": 10572.92, "end": 10579}, {"text": "of the issue is there a definitive uh uh opinion on", "start": 10579, "end": 10585.12}, {"text": "this um the I think it's important to note that the the regulation of these products is is a matter for the for the", "start": 10587.239, "end": 10593.439}, {"text": "federal government and all the uh streams of plasma have to go through the same safety checks so you go through the", "start": 10593.439, 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didn't I didn't hear some parts of the question uh counselor I'm sorry Hamilton", "start": 10701.04, "end": 10706.84}, {"text": "passed a motion recently around this same issue through the chair that is", "start": 10706.84, "end": 10711.96}, {"text": "correct so this is really just supporting what Hamilton has done so there's a precedence already through the", "start": 10711.96, "end": 10718.359}, {"text": "chair yes I am aware that uh that the city of Hamilton did pass a similar motion okay thank", "start": 10718.359, "end": 10725.84}, {"text": "you that was your only question y uh councelor", "start": 10725.84, "end": 10731.84}, {"text": "Ching one second please there we go", "start": 10733.439, "end": 10738.52}, {"text": "uh okay thank you thank you madam speaker uh I'm just looking at an", "start": 10738.52, "end": 10743.56}, {"text": "article from 2018 on CBC news and it says here that 80% of the plasma that we", "start": 10743.56, "end": 10751.2}, {"text": "need is actually 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programs that it sounds like we have no", "start": 10801.12, "end": 10806.72}, {"text": "jurisdiction over are there policies that can be put in place that prevent", "start": 10806.72, "end": 10812.08}, {"text": "the exploitation of vulnerable people uh through the chair I'm I'm not", "start": 10812.08, "end": 10820.359}, {"text": "uh sure I understand understand the question counselor I what I'm saying is that we're if we were to and I'm not", "start": 10820.359, "end": 10828.16}, {"text": "even sure we have jurisdiction to block this from happening but if it does come", "start": 10828.16, "end": 10834.92}, {"text": "let's say paid plasma comes to Toronto people can donate for money what could", "start": 10834.92, "end": 10842.12}, {"text": "we do to prevent the exploitation of vulnerable people uh madam speaker", "start": 10842.12, "end": 10849.72}, {"text": "I'm just going to say that that's not something the city of Toronto could regulate could regulate yes and so even", "start": 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of health because really it warrants a", "start": 10910.319, "end": 10916.399}, {"text": "discussion um I think that uh I understand councelor moyes's heart is in", "start": 10916.399, "end": 10921.64}, {"text": "the right place and wanting to be protecting vulnerable individuals and I don't think anyone wants to see", "start": 10921.64, "end": 10928.479}, {"text": "circumstances where uh people are selling blood as their means of income", "start": 10928.479, "end": 10934.359}, {"text": "uh but I think we should just take a step back and understand that there's whole system in place uh that's", "start": 10934.359, "end": 10940.76}, {"text": "regulated by others uh that have contemplated all of this and in my my my", "start": 10940.76, "end": 10947.92}, {"text": "my short understanding of the issue at hand is that Canadian Blood Services is", "start": 10947.92, "end": 10953.12}, {"text": "a trusted and long-standing agency and they have a car vote that if they have to pay people for 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ethical issue here it's an ethical issue once we go down this path there's", "start": 11102.04, "end": 11109.92}, {"text": "no return this particular company has been known to exploit people for profit", "start": 11109.92, "end": 11118.279}, {"text": "we know that it's been well documented and I think we have to look", "start": 11118.279, "end": 11123.76}, {"text": "out for our citizens and let it be known that Toronto does not want this Hamilton", "start": 11123.76, "end": 11132.52}, {"text": "Hamilton passed a similar motion recently and we've heard loud they have", "start": 11132.52, "end": 11137.56}, {"text": "let it be known loud and clear how they stand on this issue and I think we need to send a message to the federal", "start": 11137.56, "end": 11142.88}, {"text": "government that we don't support this either so I am asking for for Council", "start": 11142.88, "end": 11149.12}, {"text": "support to send a strong message to um the federal", "start": 11149.12, "end": 11154.841}, {"text": "government you want me to speak on this or what", "start": 11157.479, "end": 11162.278}, {"text": "no councelor Burnside you can remove me from the list", "start": 11164.439, "end": 11170.88}, {"text": "I was just going to call the question but seeing as there's nobody else we can just get vote", "start": 11170.88, "end": 11177.68}, {"text": "okay on the item on the", "start": 11178.399, "end": 11184}, {"text": "item recorded [Music]", "start": 11184, "end": 11199.51}, {"text": "vote how do you know he's not drinking wine councelor Chang please", "start": 11200.68, "end": 11209.52}, {"text": "Council appr terrible comment [Music]", "start": 11209.68, "end": 11217.54}, {"text": "ter councelor peruta please thank [Music]", "start": 11218.64, "end": 11228}, {"text": "you but you also can't be driving in a car and uh got your video", "start": 11228, "end": 11235.359}, {"text": "on the motion carries the vot is 14 to", "start": 11235.359, "end": 11240.279}, {"text": "5 our next item is MM 23.6 councelor perks you held the item", "start": 11246.12, "end": 11254.96}, {"text": "down no questions questions none okay did you want to speak yes I do", "start": 11255.88, "end": 11263.399}, {"text": "okay go ahead members I'm going to encourage you to vote no on this item will be a difficult choice but I have", "start": 11263.399, "end": 11269.319}, {"text": "three reasons first as soon as I held this item I received a text Gord this is", "start": 11269.319, "end": 11276.64}, {"text": "Jim kajanus I noticed you are holding Christian Heritage Month Proclamation I", "start": 11276.64, "end": 11282.64}, {"text": "am a registered lobbyist on the file do you have any", "start": 11282.64, "end": 11288.12}, {"text": "concerns now some of you who are new on Council might not know who Jim kianis is", "start": 11288.12, "end": 11293.84}, {"text": "he is the only member of Council in my memory who has been kicked out of this", "start": 11293.84, "end": 11299.8}, {"text": "Council for violating election rules he is also the person who uh when", "start": 11299.8, "end": 11307.2}, {"text": "beonce put on her halftime show at the Super Bowl tried to get her banned from", "start": 11307.2, "end": 11312.56}, {"text": "the city of Toronto point of point of order hold on", "start": 11312.56, "end": 11321.56}, {"text": "hold on hold on C Council Pro Appo of order simple", "start": 11321.56, "end": 11329.16}, {"text": "speaker if the council wants to talk about city council proclaimed December's", "start": 11329.16, "end": 11334.479}, {"text": "Christian Heritage Month he should do that you know former counselor car", "start": 11334.479, "end": 11340.08}, {"text": "Janice left Council a long time ago I don't know what he what relevance he has to this he's aist and and if he and if", "start": 11340.08, "end": 11348.52}, {"text": "he called him or whatever but but speaker I would I would ask you as the", "start": 11348.52, "end": 11353.6}, {"text": "speaker to keep us on track here and keep us on our our Lane right okay thank you and", "start": 11353.6, "end": 11360.96}, {"text": "councelor perks councelor PRS is correct if you want to speak on the Motions before us uh speak on the motion I am", "start": 11360.96, "end": 11368.84}, {"text": "I'm speaking to someone who has registered as a lobbyist on the item on the lobbyist reg the motion speak I'm", "start": 11368.84, "end": 11377.239}, {"text": "speaking about the motion okay now once I recognize that councelor Carro Janis", "start": 11377.239, "end": 11382.72}, {"text": "was a registered lobbyist I looked up and he is registered on behalf of some called the Christian music festival", "start": 11382.72, "end": 11389.439}, {"text": "which has been petitioning the city of Toronto other municipalities and the federal government to declare this the", "start": 11389.439, "end": 11396.96}, {"text": "city of Toronto office of protocol turn them down Council appr we turn them", "start": 11396.96, "end": 11405.12}, {"text": "down can you stop my", "start": 11406.6, "end": 11410.398}, {"text": "time okay Council pra please please", "start": 11412.84, "end": 11419.318}, {"text": "yeah my clock is running speaker okay come on can get we can we", "start": 11421.16, "end": 11428.479}, {"text": "get okay can we get clock is running counc councel perks please can you just", "start": 11428.479, "end": 11434.92}, {"text": "continue thank you I know but councel peruta please stop my", "start": 11434.92, "end": 11442}, {"text": "clock counc peruta stop please stop", "start": 11442, "end": 11448.72}, {"text": "okay go ahead councelor perks oh look I get to start all over", "start": 11448.72, "end": 11454.92}, {"text": "again now I don't know the Christian music festival I understand they have some people here I don't know what their", "start": 11454.92, "end": 11461.239}, {"text": "goals are I I just don't know I do know they're affiliated with something called the Christian Festival Association the", "start": 11461.239, "end": 11468.479}, {"text": "Christian Festival Association which is uh a registered organization in Texas I", "start": 11468.479, "end": 11474.84}, {"text": "don't know what they're about none of this was explained in the motion that was put in front of us I think we have", "start": 11474.84, "end": 11481.319}, {"text": "to be cautious when both our protocol department and also the federal", "start": 11481.319, "end": 11486.8}, {"text": "government turned down these requests I don't know why I don't know anything", "start": 11486.8, "end": 11491.96}, {"text": "about it there was no description in the motion about what the aims are here the", "start": 11491.96, "end": 11497.12}, {"text": "second reason I encourage you to vote against it is well a member of council came up and said what's wrong with this", "start": 11497.12, "end": 11503.92}, {"text": "there's Hindu heritage month and that's an important thing to consider are we treating people 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in the Canadian", "start": 11601.88, "end": 11609.6}, {"text": "Constitution provincial governments can and must fund uh either a Catholic school or a", "start": 11609.6, "end": 11617.6}, {"text": "Protestant School in any District where the Catholic or Protestant Community is", "start": 11617.6, "end": 11623.12}, {"text": "in the minority that is Canadian law", "start": 11623.12, "end": 11629.04}, {"text": "if he wants to debate he can put his name on the list can you stop my time", "start": 11636.88, "end": 11643.238}, {"text": "City Cilan chrisan he went", "start": 11665.8, "end": 11672.84}, {"text": "to coun kicked off counil who registered", "start": 11672.84, "end": 11677.88}, {"text": "as no council Pro that's that's not a point of order", "start": 11677.88, "end": 11683.08}, {"text": "that that's not a point of order okay you should ask the solicitor", "start": 11683.08, "end": 11691.439}, {"text": "for councelor pra I I'm asking you for the second time if you don't stop I'm", 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separate recognition when we do", "start": 11751.08, "end": 11757.08}, {"text": "something like recognize some different group that is an effort to", "start": 11757.08, "end": 11763.199}, {"text": "rebalance I ask you to recall the moment we had at the beginning of this afternoon session when we had a smudging", "start": 11763.199, "end": 11770.56}, {"text": "ceremony and what that meant and what that means in this context the final reason I would like you to vote against", "start": 11770.56, "end": 11776.92}, {"text": "against this language matters the phrase Christian Heritage is not a neutral F", "start": 11776.92, "end": 11784.92}, {"text": "phrase in the Canadian political landscape there is a political party named the Christian Heritage party that", "start": 11784.92, "end": 11792.72}, {"text": "party is anti-abortion anti-same-sex marriage says that Islam is a threat to", "start": 11792.72, "end": 11799.72}, {"text": "democracy denies that climate change is caused by CO2 I would 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other counselors that are um that are supporting this motion I can understand", "start": 11852.279, "end": 11860.04}, {"text": "where counselor appr is coming from but there is no political intention in this", "start": 11860.04, "end": 11865.319}, {"text": "uh motion as someone of a Christian faith we all would like to see this uh", "start": 11865.319, "end": 11871.68}, {"text": "adopted as the Christian faith is the only faith yet that has not had uh an", "start": 11871.68, "end": 11877.6}, {"text": "adoption of a heritage month I can understand we all understand the history", "start": 11877.6, "end": 11882.68}, {"text": "behind it but it is time to move forward and to um support the Christian faith", "start": 11882.68, "end": 11890.239}, {"text": "just like all the other faiths in Canada so if anyone in Council I'm sorry does", "start": 11890.239, "end": 11896.12}, {"text": "not like or will not like to support this I mean we did not ask for a recorded vote you they can decide on how", "start": 11896.12, "end": 11905.439}, {"text": "they would like to vote on this matter so uh I would like to thank you on this", "start": 11905.439, "end": 11911.199}, {"text": "Christian Heritage Month the chrisan Heritage Festival uh did come to us because they were not um rejected by", "start": 11911.199, "end": 11920.76}, {"text": "protocol it's a nonprofit organization that was requested to bring forward um", "start": 11920.76, "end": 11927.72}, {"text": "this motion this letter of intent um and I'm not aware of any of", "start": 11927.72, "end": 11935.12}, {"text": "the Christian Heritage political movements uh in our country so thank you", "start": 11935.12, "end": 11940.64}, {"text": "very much for the opportunity to speak and I hope I we will have the support of our council members uh for this motion", "start": 11940.64, "end": 11948.399}, {"text": "okay thank you coun Chang to", "start": 11948.399, "end": 11954.881}, {"text": "speak this is actually a very difficult 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what happens religion divides people it always", "start": 12282.76, "end": 12289.92}, {"text": "has look Beyond this building and beyond our borders and we see it every", "start": 12289.92, "end": 12297.12}, {"text": "day I came from the school board and I had a conversation with my colleague", "start": 12297.12, "end": 12302.439}, {"text": "Rachel shonin about this issue and I will not repeat what we talked about it was", "start": 12302.439, "end": 12309.64}, {"text": "private but I can say to you we have many Heritage months of the TDSB", "start": 12309.64, "end": 12316.88}, {"text": "once you open that Pandora's Box everybody wants recognition as of right today there's a", "start": 12316.88, "end": 12324.64}, {"text": "moratorium on Heritage months at the TDSB because they don't know how to deal", "start": 12324.64, "end": 12329.84}, {"text": "with it you open this today you could not say no to anyone", "start": 12329.84, "end": 12339.8}, {"text": "else you could not say no to any 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Council", "start": 12522.72, "end": 12527.92}, {"text": "mm mm 2335 keeping Dundas Street Car moving it's councelor", "start": 12528.72, "end": 12536.92}, {"text": "saaks moved it and Deputy Mayor osma Malik do you want to just move the item where's the deputy mayor did she", "start": 12536.92, "end": 12544.12}, {"text": "leave did she leave I'm here Madam chair no I just", "start": 12544.12, "end": 12551.84}, {"text": "want to know if she wants to move it I want to move it", "start": 12551.84, "end": 12558}, {"text": "it's it's Kelsey sa I want to move it please hello M Madam Madame speaker it's", "start": 12558.52, "end": 12566.12}, {"text": "my motion I'd like to move it okay thank you all in favor carried mm", "start": 12566.12, "end": 12572.56}, {"text": "2336 the AG seal uh moved by counselor Moy second by counselor Carol on favor", "start": 12572.56, "end": 12582.12}, {"text": "carried mm 2337 reopening the item uh 10 Huntley", "start": 12582.12, "end": 12588.319}, {"text": 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of submissions on zoning bylaw official plan amendments can I have some quiet in here", "start": 12689.08, "end": 12697.279}, {"text": "please okay moved by mayor CH we put it on the screen councelor peruta please", "start": 12697.279, "end": 12707.16}, {"text": "okay mayor it's on the screen if you want to read it making a decision on sing bylaw and", "start": 12708.16, "end": 12715.92}, {"text": "official plan amendments okay on favor carried may I have a motion to introduce", "start": 12715.92, "end": 12723.56}, {"text": "the general bills uh moved by mayor", "start": 12723.56, "end": 12728.92}, {"text": "chuce bills to confirm to the point of the introduction of this motion the proceedings of city council meeting 23", "start": 12728.92, "end": 12735.92}, {"text": "shall Le be granted to introduce these bills all in favor Al hold", "start": 12735.92, "end": 12743.88}, {"text": "on so move that lead be granted to introduce Bill 1142 to", "start": 12748.439, "end": 12756}, {"text": "1224 all favor", "start": 12756, "end": 12761.439}, {"text": "carried shall these bills be declared as bylaws in the pass subject to section", "start": 12761.56, "end": 12767.76}, {"text": "226.50 city of tronto act 2006 yes all in favor show passant may I", "start": 12767.76, "end": 12775.279}, {"text": "have a motion to introduce the confirmatory bills that leave May child", "start": 12775.279, "end": 12781.72}, {"text": "that leave be granted to introduce bills to confirm to the point of the introduction of this motion the proceedings of city council meeting 23rd", "start": 12781.72, "end": 12788.84}, {"text": "on November 13 14 2024 shall Le be granted to introduce these bills", "start": 12788.84, "end": 12796.279}, {"text": "all in favor carried shall these bills be declared as bylaws and passed subject", "start": 12796.279, "end": 12802.12}, {"text": "to section 226 point9 of City Toronto act all in favor carried thank you to to City staff", "start": 12802.12, "end": 12811.439}, 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