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184.68, "end": 187.68}, {"text": "thee nagara region and grinby are situated on treaty land this land is steeped in the rich history of the First", "start": 191.519, "end": 197.76}, {"text": "Nations such as the had wendan the hodon and the inish including the missas of", "start": 197.76, "end": 203.599}, {"text": "the Credit First Nation there are many First Nations matey and Inuit people from across totle Island that live in", "start": 203.599, "end": 209.519}, {"text": "work in Niagara today the regional Municipality of Niagara and the town of grinby stand with all indigenous people", "start": 209.519, "end": 215.439}, {"text": "past and present in promoting the wise stewardship of the lands on which we live are there any disclosures of", "start": 215.439, "end": 221.92}, {"text": "pecuniary or non-pecuniary interest seeing none um kind have a", "start": 221.92, "end": 228.519}, {"text": "mover and seconder to approve the agenda move by councelor Frank second by councelor", "start": 228.519, "end": 235.159}, {"text": "cangi move by counselor Frank second by counselor cangi resoled that the November 18th 2024 council meeting", "start": 235.159, "end": 242}, {"text": "agenda be approved all in favor that's", "start": 242, "end": 248.04}, {"text": "carried councelor cangi will now give our chair's report as the vice chair of the community services committee", "start": 248.519, "end": 254.56}, {"text": "councelor cangi thank you through chair um I apologize it's a little lengthy but it was a big meeting um so we started", "start": 254.56, "end": 261.72}, {"text": "off with two delegations uh about uh grinby pickle ball so we had one from the grinby pickle ball Association and", "start": 261.72, "end": 267.919}, {"text": "one from the grinby residents for fair pickle ball play uh then we had a summary of the event task force proposal", "start": 267.919, "end": 274.84}, {"text": "in response to councelor Brad's motion to establish an events task force the community 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increase in applications there's a need to clarify how project revenues are allocated this may involve refining", "start": 316, "end": 322.36}, {"text": "current policies the 2024 budget for the community project grant program was $20,000 the total amount requested by", "start": 322.36, "end": 329.28}, {"text": "applicant was 27750 um three applicants were", "start": 329.28, "end": 334.8}, {"text": "disqualified and two received reduced funding with a final approved amount uh totals 20,000 funds for projects will be", "start": 334.8, "end": 341.28}, {"text": "released in 2024 some projects continuing into 2025 uh the approved products will", "start": 341.28, "end": 347.8}, {"text": "provide valuable services that enhance the well-being of grinby residents it is recommended that the committee approve the grant review panel recommendations", "start": 347.8, "end": 354.52}, {"text": "and award the proposed funding as outlined in the report uh the pickle ball court update date and I apologize", "start": 354.52, "end": 361}, {"text": "at the meeting we sort of skipped over this very we did vote on it but we did skip over quickly and that was my", "start": 361, "end": 366.639}, {"text": "mistake so I do apologize to the residents that were waiting to hear that but it is on the um agenda if you want", "start": 366.639, "end": 372.28}, {"text": "to read the full report uh staff collaborated with the grinby pickleball Association to increase public court", "start": 372.28, "end": 378.199}, {"text": "access adding 39 hours per week to court 2 for public use effective until the end of 2024 a community survey was conducted", "start": 378.199, "end": 385.12}, {"text": "to gather feedback on court access preferences it was open till November 15th the survey is promoted was promoted", "start": 385.12, "end": 391.8}, {"text": "through various channels to ensure Fair participation and following the survey staff will anal analyze the results to", "start": 391.8, "end": 397.919}, {"text": "recommend an allocation approach for the 2025 season we had the peach King Center", "start": 397.919, "end": 403.4}, {"text": "update the expansion and renovation product project is advancing well and remains on schedule and within budget", "start": 403.4, "end": 409.919}, {"text": "the project team will continue to engage stakeholders to to develop operational plans and programming that will meet the", "start": 409.919, "end": 415.16}, {"text": "needs of grinby residents there was a summer camp and Aquatics report the grinby summer camps and swimming lessons", "start": 415.16, "end": 421.4}, {"text": "have continued to be an asset to our community providing children with enriching experiences in promoting overall well-being staff continue to", "start": 421.4, "end": 428}, {"text": "explore opportunities to grow and refine the program within the resources available we had a report on", "start": 428, "end": 433.759}, {"text": "reallocating the uh Livingston Activity 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476.68}, {"text": "relocated to another town facility the building is no longer required the user fee study uh is in", "start": 476.68, "end": 484.039}, {"text": "progress It's underway focusing on Gathering background information reviewing content and conducting initial", "start": 484.039, "end": 489.68}, {"text": "interviews stakeholder and Community feedback will be incorporated aiming for completion by late q1 of 2025 an update", "start": 489.68, "end": 497.36}, {"text": "on the 40 Mile Creek Bridge the bridge design has been revised to reduce costs by removing the ramping Landing viewing", "start": 497.36, "end": 504.159}, {"text": "area and lowering the railing height the project will be reissued for tender to obtain more favorable pricing if within", "start": 504.159, "end": 510.159}, {"text": "budget work will proceed with expected completion by mid 2025 considering", "start": 510.159, "end": 515.2}, {"text": "inwater work periods if not within budget forur the direction will be sought from the committee there was an update on um the parks master plan", "start": 515.2, "end": 523.76}, {"text": "progress phase one is complete involving extensive consultations with council members Town staff stakeholders and the", "start": 523.76, "end": 529.88}, {"text": "community our Central Park fitness equipment the new fitness equipment has been installed along with the walking", "start": 529.88, "end": 536.08}, {"text": "path in Centennial Park this is a free four outdoor Fitness stations with bars", "start": 536.08, "end": 541.56}, {"text": "and benches for body weight exercises and an accessible pathway grinby received 2500 to host a", "start": 541.56, "end": 549.16}, {"text": "senior's information and active living fair in March 2025 showcasing programs and services for older", "start": 549.16, "end": 555.839}, {"text": "adults uh we have parking improvements accessible parking spaces were reconfigured and improved at several", "start": 555.839, "end": 562}, 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grinby glows pumpkin parade the Remembrance Day", "start": 604.8, "end": 609.88}, {"text": "ceremony and upcoming are some Christmas season Celebrations Town tree lighting grinby Santa Claus Parade celebration of", "start": 609.88, "end": 617.279}, {"text": "light we have the New Year's Eve free uh public skating on both pads and the mayor's Levy January", "start": 617.279, "end": 623.76}, {"text": "5th so it was a jam-packed meeting with lots of information and our uh community", "start": 623.76, "end": 628.959}, {"text": "service department is working really hard", "start": 628.959, "end": 634.079}, {"text": "so excellent very thorough can I have a move and second or", "start": 634.2, "end": 640.12}, {"text": "to approve the previous minutes move by councelor deflavio second by councelor how mooved by", "start": 640.12, "end": 647.399}, {"text": "councelor deflavio second by councelor how resolve the following minutes be approved Council November 4th 2024", "start": 647.399, "end": 653.959}, {"text": "Community Services committee November 5th 2024 special councel November 14th", "start": 653.959, "end": 659.44}, {"text": "24 all in favor that's carried can I have a mover in second to", "start": 659.44, "end": 666.48}, {"text": "approve the council endorsement package and receive the minutes of the grinby Heritage advisory", "start": 666.48, "end": 672.959}, {"text": "committee councelor shell you'd like to lift that I could please", "start": 672.959, "end": 680.16}, {"text": "yeah yeah which do you want to lift the endorsement package or the minutes um", "start": 683.24, "end": 689.36}, {"text": "the endorsement package all right okay um through your mayor Jan", "start": 689.36, "end": 695}, {"text": "thank you um I just had some comments um I think it was great that you had offered this um and I just Bianca just", "start": 695, "end": 702}, {"text": "have some questions um first off is this because this was a", "start": 702, "end": 708.839}, {"text": "pilot project is it safe to say that we're going to be doing this again next", "start": 708.839, "end": 713.92}, {"text": "year um through the mayor uh good evening Council um so the idea behind", "start": 713.92, "end": 719.68}, {"text": "the pilot program title was that um we wanted to have it be reviewed again in a year to see if there was any changes", "start": 719.68, "end": 726.399}, {"text": "we'd like to make um to further improve the program but um staff recommended", "start": 726.399, "end": 731.639}, {"text": "that the program continue and based on the applications we re received we do", "start": 731.639, "end": 736.88}, {"text": "feel like the community has a need for it so that would be the staff recommendation that I continue but the", "start": 736.88, "end": 742.04}, {"text": "idea of the pilot was more to continue to make it um an um a Well Suited", "start": 742.04, "end": 747.959}, {"text": "program okay um so I just I just had a a few things that I just wanted to kind of", 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possible another consideration is uh I know in niiger on", "start": 792.72, "end": 798.44}, {"text": "the lake on the application it asks if there's any other um government support", "start": 798.44, "end": 804.199}, {"text": "so if that can be something that we can add um and also if there's something and", "start": 804.199, "end": 809.519}, {"text": "I'm leaving this up to you obviously you're the you're the pro expert but um", "start": 809.519, "end": 814.959}, {"text": "just so that we're making sure that we're cognizant of trying to give a little bit to everybody so rather than", "start": 814.959, "end": 821.959}, {"text": "the same owners getting it year after year if there was a process where maybe there's a priority for somebody that", "start": 821.959, "end": 828.16}, {"text": "hasn't received funding so if you could just note those for for next year that", "start": 828.16, "end": 833.44}, {"text": "would be great but I think it's fabulous so thank you and I hear all the time from Council Chris Angie how amazing", "start": 833.44, "end": 840.04}, {"text": "you're doing so just wanted to say thanks all right seeing that there's no", "start": 840.04, "end": 846.56}, {"text": "changes we'll just leave the resolution as it is need a moover and seconder move by councelor deflavio second by", "start": 846.56, "end": 853.36}, {"text": "councelor Gangi moved by councelor deflavio second by councelor Cori resolved that the", "start": 853.36, "end": 860.12}, {"text": "council endorsement package from the gr from the grinby Heritage advisory committee dated 12th November 12th 2024", "start": 860.12, "end": 867.16}, {"text": "be approved and that the grinby heritage advis committee minutes of November 12th 2024 be received all in favor that's", "start": 867.16, "end": 875.88}, {"text": "carried and we move to announcements are there any announcements this", "start": 875.88, "end": 881.399}, {"text": "evening councelor deflavio thank you mayor uh I I'm going to sound like a", "start": 883.519, "end": 888.92}, {"text": "broken record um the on Friday there was uh the third uh session of the Grimsby", "start": 888.92, "end": 896.279}, {"text": "author series was held the library was sold out again phenomenal uh event as always uh the", "start": 896.279, "end": 904.199}, {"text": "authors were hilarious and thoughtful and um I I encouraged actually uh Ryan", "start": 904.199, "end": 912.079}, {"text": "to that they should be become podcasts because they're they're genuinely", "start": 912.079, "end": 917.72}, {"text": "entertaining so I would recommend anybody who has an opportunity tickets are on sale for special Christmas event", "start": 917.72, "end": 924.12}, {"text": "that's what I wanted to mention tonight that is coming up I want to say December 13th but check the library website for", "start": 924.12, "end": 930.759}, {"text": "specifics about it uh there are two Christmas related books and uh it as", "start": 930.759, "end": 937.48}, {"text": "always it's going to be a terrific night I also want to give out uh a shout out to our chief librarian who is retiring", "start": 937.48, "end": 944.319}, {"text": "who has been incredible uh just involved", "start": 944.319, "end": 949.68}, {"text": "in every aspect of the library has been a great staff member and uh a great", "start": 949.68, "end": 955.36}, {"text": "leader at the library and we're certainly going to miss her so I think that was mentioned before but I I just", "start": 955.36, "end": 961.04}, {"text": "wanted to to thank her again for all of her work at the Grimsby Public Library thank you", "start": 961.04, "end": 967.24}, {"text": "mayor thank you uh any other announcements uh just on behalf of the", "start": 967.399, "end": 972.959}, {"text": "uh Bia and uh grinby downtown um November 21st this Thursday is uh ladies", "start": 972.959, "end": 978.48}, {"text": "night and that's uh running from 5: to 8:00 p.m. uh down town uh last year the", "start": 978.48, "end": 985.44}, {"text": "weather cooperated and it was super busy uh everyone had a a lot of fun involved and um downtown was really hopping and", "start": 985.44, "end": 993.16}, {"text": "it certainly um should be hopping again this year so that's this Thursday November", "start": 993.16, "end": 998.639}, {"text": "21st um seeing no other uh announcements uh councilor Seaborn uh welcome to the", "start": 998.639, "end": 1006.72}, {"text": "podium for the regional counselor", "start": 1006.72, "end": 1010.399}, {"text": "update thank you mayor Jordan always a pleasure to uh attend your meetings this is kind of a timely topic", "start": 1015, "end": 1022.8}, {"text": "I wanted to stay away from budgets nobody wants to talk about budgets anymore um but I did want to bring about", "start": 1022.8, "end": 1028.959}, {"text": "some results from a recent uh Symposium it was the Niagara Association of", "start": 1028.959, "end": 1034.88}, {"text": "Realtors and it was with regards 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"end": 1133.88}, {"text": "opinions of life in Niagara were there were some really important concerns came", "start": 1133.88, "end": 1139.08}, {"text": "out from this uh this particular survey cost of housing was number one it was", "start": 1139.08, "end": 1144.64}, {"text": "followed closely by inflation which affects your cost of living it affects groceries and Health Care smaller", "start": 1144.64, "end": 1152.36}, {"text": "emphasis was also given to jobs Public Safety policing and", "start": 1152.36, "end": 1158.679}, {"text": "governance 71% of those that were asked and answered the uh the questions found", "start": 1158.679, "end": 1165.44}, {"text": "that Niagara region was a great place to raise a family 69% of them felt very", "start": 1165.44, "end": 1171.36}, {"text": "very safe in their Community but 50% felt that housing in Niagara was", "start": 1171.36, "end": 1176.88}, {"text": "unaffordable to the point where some of them were looking at actually leaving the area 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need to be", "start": 1224.919, "end": 1232.48}, {"text": "considered when you're planning your communities municipalities need to be critical about what is being protected", "start": 1232.48, "end": 1239.28}, {"text": "and a complete Community is very important home building is", "start": 1239.28, "end": 1245.12}, {"text": "complicated many influencing factors now that the rates are starting to come down", "start": 1245.12, "end": 1251.159}, {"text": "the number of applications for approval throughout the region has increased there are more than 36,000", "start": 1251.159, "end": 1258.76}, {"text": "housing units unbuilt and approved in the niaga region", "start": 1258.76, "end": 1264.039}, {"text": "3,445 of those are in Grimsby while Niagara is one of North America's most popular destinations a", "start": 1264.039, "end": 1271.4}, {"text": "growing number of businesses and individuals have decided to make Niagara home all of the positive developments", "start": 1271.4, "end": 1278.2}, {"text": "are bringing jobs and prosperity to grimby and our region but they'll also", "start": 1278.2, "end": 1283.64}, {"text": "bring some important challenges challenges that we'll need to meet", "start": 1283.64, "end": 1289.039}, {"text": "that concludes the Symposium uh update and uh in very short uh short Manner and", "start": 1289.039, "end": 1296.12}, {"text": "uh I hope that you'll find that it's kind of a a timely thing I noticed the rest of your uh the rest of your um", "start": 1296.12, "end": 1302.559}, {"text": "agenda today has a couple of those topics mentioned I'm open for any questions if there are any thank you", "start": 1302.559, "end": 1309.039}, {"text": "Michelle questions councelor how through you mayor um Michelle and you kind of", "start": 1309.039, "end": 1314.44}, {"text": "touched on it that's 3,000 some OD that are here in town aren't the vast", "start": 1314.44, "end": 1320.08}, {"text": "majority of them all set to go we just need the builders to start putting shovels in the ground of course those", "start": 1320.08, "end": 1326.2}, {"text": "Builders are waiting for the right time to start putting those shovels in the ground those", "start": 1326.2, "end": 1331.799}, {"text": "3,445 homes and other housing units are all planned to take place or get started", "start": 1331.799, "end": 1338}, {"text": "by 2028 according to your planning", "start": 1338, "end": 1343.36}, {"text": "department it's not out stopping it starting in 20 all of them there it's", "start": 1345.48, "end": 1353.72}, {"text": "not us stopping it they can go shovel in the ground whenever they want they're all ready to go now yeah they're all", "start": 1353.72, "end": 1360.08}, {"text": "approved they're all ready to go that's", "start": 1360.08, "end": 1364.679}, {"text": "correct any other questions seeing none thanks thanks again Michelle very", "start": 1367.72, "end": 1372.76}, {"text": "welcome to hear your updates all right can I have a mover and seconder to get the 40 Creek", "start": 1372.76, "end": 1379}, {"text": "dely application report on the floor for discussion move by councelor how second", "start": 1379, "end": 1384.4}, {"text": "by counselor", "start": 1384.4, "end": 1387}, {"text": "deflavio questions or comments councelor deflavio thank you mayor uh I'm just", "start": 1392.44, "end": 1398.48}, {"text": "going to say 40 Creek is an important employer in the municipality I think anything that they do to enhance that", "start": 1398.48, "end": 1404.039}, {"text": "facility which is what they're trying to do here uh and enhance tourism in the town of Grimsby is great um this is just", "start": 1404.039, "end": 1411.72}, {"text": "another opportunity for them to bring people in into Grimsby and to bring people into their facility so I I", "start": 1411.72, "end": 1418.32}, {"text": "strongly support this I think that the only way that I could have supported it more is if they sent us some samples", "start": 1418.32, "end": 1423.72}, {"text": "tonight to uh to to cheer on the uh the application but that's a joke of course", "start": 1423.72, "end": 1429.08}, {"text": "I don't accept bribes councelor sherah through your maror Jan thank you um Harold can sir", "start": 1429.08, "end": 1436.64}, {"text": "can you just confirm the tax base does the tax does the tax rate change at all with the inclusion of um like their the", "start": 1436.64, "end": 1445}, {"text": "spirits I don't think it does but I just want to make sure like this doesn't change how much we're collecting in the", "start": 1445, "end": 1451.12}, {"text": "long run right cuz in the letter later it said that they're we're adding food in as well so I just want to make", "start": 1451.12, "end": 1458.159}, {"text": "sure um I can't say for certain that uh that it would or wouldn't um if there's an expansion of a use and it's its value", "start": 1458.159, "end": 1466.52}, {"text": "changes then there would be different", "start": 1466.52, "end": 1470.36}, {"text": "I believe Tony's online uh Tony if you want maybe you you're better position to answer", "start": 1472.279, "end": 1479.12}, {"text": "that yeah hi good evening yeah the um the amount of taxes paid would be based on the assessed value so like Carol said", "start": 1482.64, "end": 1489.279}, {"text": "if when any improvements change the assessed value it could have an impact on the taxes", "start": 1489.279, "end": 1495.279}, {"text": "paid thank you okay um yeah I I I like this idea I I did some research as far", "start": 1495.279, "end": 1502.6}, {"text": "as I think there were some other municipalities that had brought something forward um as far as expanding this for tourism I noticed in some other", "start": 1502.6, "end": 1510.76}, {"text": "um some other municipalities they had um a whiskey Fest of some sort so this might be a nice idea for them as well so", "start": 1510.76, "end": 1517.52}, {"text": "I support", "start": 1517.52, "end": 1519.919}, {"text": "it all right seeing no further discussion move by councelor house second by counselor defl resolve at", "start": 1523.44, "end": 1529.12}, {"text": "report TC 24-17 40 Creek distiller application for manufacturers limited", "start": 1529.12, "end": 1535.919}, {"text": "liquor sales license sale by the glass dated November 18th 2024 be received and", "start": 1535.919, "end": 1541.399}, {"text": "the council approved the request from 40 Creek Distillery and endorse their application to obtain a manufacturer's", "start": 1541.399, "end": 1548.399}, {"text": "limited liquor sales license commonly known as buy the glass license to sell and serve their products to patrons for", "start": 1548.399, "end": 1555.52}, {"text": "consumption at their manufacturing site on in favor that's", "start": 1555.52, "end": 1561.799}, {"text": "carried C A mover and secondary to get the provincial announcement staff memo to the floor for discussion councelor", "start": 1561.799, "end": 1569.44}, {"text": "bradz councelor Frank moved by councelor brzy second by", "start": 1569.44, "end": 1574.679}, {"text": "counselor Frank any discussion seeing none uh resolves that", "start": 1574.679, "end": 1581.96}, {"text": "staff memo on the removal of the of the Niagara Region's planning responsibilities will receive for", "start": 1581.96, "end": 1587.12}, {"text": "information all favor that's carried uh we are move to notice's", "start": 1587.12, "end": 1595.08}, {"text": "motion councelor Brad can you please read your notice of", "start": 1595.08, "end": 1599.96}, {"text": "motion okay uh this motion is titled Veterans Way crosswalk street art initiative", "start": 1606.159, "end": 1612.88}, {"text": "whereas the town of Grimsby strategic priorities set out goals for fostering vibrant neighborhoods and supporting happy healthy lives in a well-connected", "start": 1612.88, "end": 1619.12}, {"text": "inclusive community and whereas the town of Grimsby recognizes the importance of honoring our veterans and all members of", "start": 1619.12, "end": 1624.44}, {"text": "the Armed Forces and and whereas establishing a veterans Crossway mural will provide a visible and Lasting", "start": 1624.44, "end": 1630.799}, {"text": "tribute to honor the sacrifices of the men and women who serve and an opportunity to recognize some of our local distinct veterans while increasing", "start": 1630.799, "end": 1638}, {"text": "the vi vibrancy of our community therefore be it resolved that Council direct staff to report back with", "start": 1638, "end": 1643.52}, {"text": "timelines and financial impacts for the crosswalk and other street art initiatives uh as part or after the", "start": 1643.52, "end": 1649.679}, {"text": "transportation master plan and prioritizing the investigation of a potential veterans crosswalk for", "start": 1649.679, "end": 1654.72}, {"text": "Remembrance Day 2025 I acknowledge that this motion will be considered at the December 2nd", "start": 1654.72, "end": 1660.279}, {"text": "council meeting thank you mayor thank you uh councilor Devi has", "start": 1660.279, "end": 1666.679}, {"text": "requested the municipality of Calendar's resolution on resuming the assessment", "start": 1666.679, "end": 1672.88}, {"text": "cycle be endorsed do we have a second for that councelor how", "start": 1672.88, "end": 1679.32}, {"text": "did you want to discuss all right councilor devoli go ahead mayor Jordan if I could just make", "start": 1679.32, "end": 1684.88}, {"text": "a few comments about it um so the background is of course that the province and through impact the", "start": 1684.88, "end": 1691.44}, {"text": "municipal property assessment Corporation has not done a revaluation since", "start": 1691.44, "end": 1697.159}, {"text": "2016 it was slated for 2024 and obviously has not happened in that particular in this year neither and um", "start": 1697.159, "end": 1705.32}, {"text": "is now um of great concern to many municipalities across the province um", "start": 1705.32, "end": 1712.36}, {"text": "but I guess the question is you know why is it a worry for us and and why why do I feel concerned too um and I will say", "start": 1712.36, "end": 1720.2}, {"text": "that when our property values get out of sync then of course we could potentially", "start": 1720.2, "end": 1725.76}, {"text": "end up in the situation where we have properties who are paying more than", "start": 1725.76, "end": 1731.2}, {"text": "their fair share compared to other properties um and let me give you an", "start": 1731.2, "end": 1736.76}, {"text": "example we could have a Distillery whose property goes up by 5% but a hotel or a", "start": 1736.76, "end": 1744.279}, {"text": "condominiums or any other properties in town where their property values have gone up by", "start": 1744.279, "end": 1750.96}, {"text": "55% or 25% and yet the property taxes stay at", "start": 1750.96, "end": 1756.84}, {"text": "the old assess values with those old property tax numbers that result from it", "start": 1756.84, "end": 1762.84}, {"text": "and so you end up basically with unfair tax burdens not being shared if we're going to have a system that is based", "start": 1762.84, "end": 1769.96}, {"text": "upon property tax values and I won't say it's the fairest system we ever could have thought of but if we're going to", "start": 1769.96, "end": 1775.24}, {"text": "have the system at a minimum it needs to be fair it needs to be done with current", "start": 1775.24, "end": 1780.96}, {"text": "values and not these old Frozen values that we have in fact you can even have situations and I know it sounds rare but", "start": 1780.96, "end": 1787.799}, {"text": "where properties may go down in value and then they see no benefit from that neither they still pay property taxes at", "start": 1787.799, "end": 1794.88}, {"text": "the higher rate the old Frozen values that they were at and I understand that there are even you", "start": 1794.88, "end": 1800.799}, {"text": "know litigation and legal issues over um you know when things are changed and how", "start": 1800.799, "end": 1807.039}, {"text": "which years you can appeal and so on and so forth so it doesn't make our system truly work very well it it's it doesn't", "start": 1807.039, "end": 1815.279}, {"text": "provide stability it doesn't provide fairness and it's just simply getting archaic again and so I would like our", "start": 1815.279, "end": 1823.2}, {"text": "Council to support the municipality of calendar and encourage The Province to", "start": 1823.2, "end": 1829.72}, {"text": "implement the impact reevaluation as soon as", "start": 1829.72, "end": 1835.24}, {"text": "possible councelor deflavio thank you mayor I I I agree with that uh thank you councilor duli I", "start": 1836.919, "end": 1843.799}, {"text": "think also within the Niagara region there's always been a great disparity between property values and Grimsby and", "start": 1843.799, "end": 1849.24}, {"text": "property values in other municipalities uh that has been bridged a bit as a result of the market over the", "start": 1849.24, "end": 1856.399}, {"text": "last seven or eight years uh so property values have gone up in some of the", "start": 1856.399, "end": 1862}, {"text": "municipalities in in in other municipalities in Niagara which in some", "start": 1862, "end": 1867.32}, {"text": "cases doubled or tripled because they were assessed so low in the first place so if you look at", "start": 1867.32, "end": 1873.96}, {"text": "assessments for other municipalities uh and how it impacts Grimsby is that", "start": 1873.96, "end": 1879.2}, {"text": "because we are paying the same mill rate for from Regional perspective as uh", "start": 1879.2, "end": 1885.279}, {"text": "lesser expensive traditionally housing in other municipalities we're paying", "start": 1885.279, "end": 1890.399}, {"text": "significantly more towards the region than other municipalities or or houses in other municipalities and uh if if", "start": 1890.399, "end": 1898.88}, {"text": "those go up taxes and other municipalities will likely go up but it'll balance the Grimsby rate payers", "start": 1898.88, "end": 1907.159}, {"text": "taxes I think from a regional perspective so I'm hoping and in the end going back to what council DOI says", "start": 1907.159, "end": 1914.84}, {"text": "uh it should be accurate and up to date and whatever that means is what it means", "start": 1914.84, "end": 1921.799}, {"text": "but if we're going on something that's eight years old or older as far as assessment is concerned it's not going", "start": 1921.799, "end": 1928.36}, {"text": "to be an accurate portrayal of of what actually exists in Grimsby so uh I'm I I", "start": 1928.36, "end": 1934.08}, {"text": "agree that that update needs to occur I don't know I I from a provincial perspective honestly I'm not sure what", "start": 1934.08, "end": 1941.24}, {"text": "the reluctance is because there's nobody knows really what the what the what", "start": 1941.24, "end": 1946.88}, {"text": "result is going to be until it happens so uh unless they have some data that", "start": 1946.88, "end": 1952}, {"text": "we're not aware of I you know I'd like to see what what the results going to be thank", "start": 1952, "end": 1957.88}, {"text": "you seeing no further questions move by councelor Devi second by councelor how resolve that Council endorse the", "start": 1957.88, "end": 1964.159}, {"text": "municipality of Calendar's resolution on resuming the assessment cycle all in", "start": 1964.159, "end": 1969.679}, {"text": "favor that's carried C A mover in secondary to", "start": 1969.679, "end": 1975.679}, {"text": "approve the user fees and charges by law councelor Sherell three marer thank", "start": 1975.679, "end": 1981.679}, {"text": "you Harold I just had some questions about this uh as well um a number of", "start": 1981.679, "end": 1987.36}, {"text": "questions so in the future if when you're doing these if you could always", "start": 1987.36, "end": 1992.519}, {"text": "like include the the previous year just to compare it would be much easier because I had to have two computers", "start": 1992.519, "end": 1998.6}, {"text": "trying to uh it's it's um Tony user oh sorry yes okay so I I so you know what", "start": 1998.6, "end": 2005.44}, {"text": "it's because part of it is planning so I'm going to have to come back to you in planning um okay that's fine", "start": 2005.44, "end": 2011.88}, {"text": "um most of this has to do with the planning fees but so Tony if you could just let me know who to talk to that'd", "start": 2011.88, "end": 2017.679}, {"text": "be great um first if you could let me know um because I I did notice that", "start": 2017.679, "end": 2023.12}, {"text": "there were a range of increases so um how how these increases were determined", "start": 2023.12, "end": 2029.08}, {"text": "um for example when we're talking about building um and in additions the", "start": 2029.08, "end": 2034.639}, {"text": "farm so section 21 Farm building um it was and green houses were pretty", "start": 2034.639, "end": 2041.159}, {"text": "much the same it was a very minimal um increase so I'm just wondering where how you determine the increases in the", "start": 2041.159, "end": 2049.279}, {"text": "range yeah through the mayor um believe you're referring to the the increases in", "start": 2052.52, "end": 2058.04}, {"text": "the building yes yeah so that's what I'm saying so I didn't I wasn't sure if I was speaking to you or to Harold on on", "start": 2058.04, "end": 2065.32}, {"text": "some of these those were yeah those were increased by um by inflation from uh", "start": 2065.32, "end": 2070.638}, {"text": "2023 and 2024 I believe the cumulative inflationary increase was", "start": 2070.639, "end": 2076.24}, {"text": "5.4% okay but some of them were like a marginal tiny tiny increase and then", "start": 2076.24, "end": 2082.158}, {"text": "some were more significant so I'm just wondering if if there's a reason for", "start": 2082.159, "end": 2087.398}, {"text": "that yeah they were in building I believe they were all increased proportionally okay but overall for the", "start": 2088.119, "end": 2094.158}, {"text": "whole study uh you know the the consultant looked at the costs of delivering the service versus expected", "start": 2094.159, "end": 2102.4}, {"text": "volumes and um coming up with an appropriate cost per item that way okay", "start": 2102.4, "end": 2112.119}, {"text": "um uh okay one so this may be a heral question um in um the occupancy permit I", "start": 2112.119, "end": 2120.359}, {"text": "think uh 61 before it was uh detached", "start": 2120.359, "end": 2125.72}, {"text": "semi detached rail houses second Suite was what it was under and now it's just secondary Suite so we've eliminated", "start": 2125.72, "end": 2133.04}, {"text": "detach semi- detach is that under a different heading or is there no longer a", "start": 2133.04, "end": 2139.32}, {"text": "cost three Miss three three mayor um I'm sorry but I'm not probably because this", "start": 2141.079, "end": 2148.48}, {"text": "is before my time I could look into this and find out it's a curiosity I I", "start": 2148.48, "end": 2153.52}, {"text": "understand and unless Tony has a response for this I I would have to research this and find out a bit as to", "start": 2153.52, "end": 2160.319}, {"text": "why those that that that change was made it could be that um I don't want to make any guesses here but it's it could be", "start": 2160.319, "end": 2165.88}, {"text": "that it's just simply a simplification um and that they're just um separating them out just didn't make sense given", "start": 2165.88, "end": 2172.4}, {"text": "the the trends in in the secondary units so um that's my", "start": 2172.4, "end": 2178.92}, {"text": "guess okay yeah Tony related to sorry", "start": 2178.92, "end": 2184.48}, {"text": "Tony if you want to go ahead sorry could you please verify what schedule your question relates to um it was for", "start": 2184.48, "end": 2191.68}, {"text": "occupancy permit so it was 61 it used to say detached semidetached", "start": 2191.68, "end": 2196.96}, {"text": "row houses secondary suite and now it just says secondary Suite we can take a look at that and get", "start": 2196.96, "end": 2204.04}, {"text": "back to you okay that'd be great um I was going to ask for uh to refer back to", "start": 2204.04, "end": 2209.4}, {"text": "you on this next item so um recently we did have uh an issue with um the Viking", "start": 2209.4, "end": 2216.48}, {"text": "property uh construction happening you know when it wasn't supposed to so I'm wondering if", "start": 2216.48, "end": 2221.96}, {"text": "we can possibly strengthen the language and maybe um add some other things I had looked at Oakville and they had like you", "start": 2221.96, "end": 2229.44}, {"text": "know um it says that the person that goes ahead and does the construction", "start": 2229.44, "end": 2234.96}, {"text": "without the permits will you know have to pay the the permit fee but they'll also have the administrative fee and", "start": 2234.96, "end": 2241.2}, {"text": "then there's an investigative fee as well so I'm wondering if if if we could refer this back to you um just to see if", "start": 2241.2, "end": 2248.4}, {"text": "we could strengthen that a little bit just to deter people from trying to build properties you know without the", "start": 2248.4, "end": 2254.52}, {"text": "permits so if that's something we could add so if I can if I understand", "start": 2254.52, "end": 2260.48}, {"text": "correctly through mayor uh that um finding uh ways in which to", "start": 2260.48, "end": 2266.119}, {"text": "disincentivize um bad behavior with respect to uh with respect to construction um increasing penalties", "start": 2266.119, "end": 2273.68}, {"text": "associated with with with um uh proceeding uh not in accordance with the bylaw kind", "start": 2273.68, "end": 2280.119}, {"text": "of thing right absolutely yes yeah I think we do because this is a user fee bylaw we don't do penalties through", "start": 2280.119, "end": 2287.4}, {"text": "under the user fee bylaw so there's no there's no mechanism for penalties so no", "start": 2287.4, "end": 2293.52}, {"text": "through the building permit they process okay because when I when I had", "start": 2293.52, "end": 2298.68}, {"text": "looked up Oakville it did come under so I don't know if this is something that we add or", "start": 2298.68, "end": 2306.48}, {"text": "we will take it away as an administrative item but uh okay I guess I'll leave it at that", "start": 2307.92, "end": 2314.8}, {"text": "but if if if we could potentially look into that just strengthening the wording on that it'd be appreciated thank you", "start": 2314.8, "end": 2322.24}, {"text": "Harold um if I could add through you Mr Mayor that uh you know when it comes to", "start": 2322.24, "end": 2327.88}, {"text": "uh um all processes you know Finding ways in which to both incentivize and disincentivize certain uh uh um um um", "start": 2327.88, "end": 2337}, {"text": "Behavior Years or or activity is going to require a kind of multi-pronged approach not just user fees or or", "start": 2337, "end": 2343.52}, {"text": "penalties with building permit but something that we'll have to look at more holistically and that will probably be an ongoing evolving matter but uh we", "start": 2343.52, "end": 2351.359}, {"text": "we are aware of it in addition to the need for guidelines more guidelines and guidance and manuals with respect to", "start": 2351.359, "end": 2358.16}, {"text": "infill which we'll be we'll be seeing more and more so in G me", "start": 2358.16, "end": 2364.88}, {"text": "all right moved by councelor Sha second by councelor Devi resolve that LE be given to introduce bylaw 2478 and that", "start": 2381.839, "end": 2388.92}, {"text": "same be read a first time considered and P all in favor that's", "start": 2388.92, "end": 2394.44}, {"text": "carried next council meeting is scheduled for December 2nd 2024 at 6:30", "start": 2394.44, "end": 2399.64}, {"text": "p.m. there is also a special council meeting on November 25th 2024 at 6 p.m.", "start": 2399.64, "end": 2405.079}, {"text": "for a transportation master plan Workshop can I have a mover and seconder", "start": 2405.079, "end": 2412.68}, {"text": "uh for the confirming bylaw moved by councelor brzy second by councelor kangi moved by councelor brzy second by", "start": 2412.68, "end": 2420.2}, {"text": "councelor kangi result leave G introduced bylaw 2479 that same be read", "start": 2420.2, "end": 2425.24}, {"text": "of first time considered and passed all in favor that's carried meeting is", "start": 2425.24, "end": 2430.839}, {"text": "adjourned good night everyone have a good", "start": 2430.839, "end": 2434.92}, {"text": "evening night", "start": 2437.72, 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