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"end": 244.4}, {"text": "counselor uh good morning everyone my name is uh councelor Paul lley I am the chair of Scarboro Community Council uh", "start": 247.439, "end": 255}, {"text": "the clerk has confirmed that we have qu Quorum so I would like to call meeting number two to order welcome and to", "start": 255, "end": 262.04}, {"text": "everyone today's meeting is being held of members of city council and City staff participating by video conference", "start": 262.04, "end": 268.8}, {"text": "and in person at the the Scarboro Civic Center in the council chamber the scarbo", "start": 268.8, "end": 274.639}, {"text": "civic center is open to the public and anyone is welcome to attend the meeting in the council chamber today the public", "start": 274.639, "end": 280.72}, {"text": "may continue to participate electronically by video conference this meeting is also being live streamed at", "start": 280.72, "end": 288.479}, {"text": "youtube.com Toronto City Council live the city clerk staff have confirmed", "start": 288.479, "end": 294.44}, {"text": "connected sorry connected remote public speakers to the meeting by video conference and there are public speakers", "start": 294.44, "end": 299.919}, {"text": "in the room with us today the list of speakers can be viewed online by visiting the Scaro Community", "start": 299.919, "end": 306.4}, {"text": "Council page at toronto.ca counil and clicking the speakers box for today's meeting I ask", "start": 306.4, "end": 314.32}, {"text": "everyone for their patience with any delays and technical issues members the city clerk has", "start": 314.32, "end": 320.52}, {"text": "provided all agenda materials on toronto.ca counil and on the city", "start": 320.52, "end": 325.56}, {"text": "clerk's meeting portal Clerk's IT staff will be available to members in the", "start": 325.56, "end": 332.12}, {"text": "chamber and remotely if you need help with your devices as part of each agenda item I", "start": 332.12, "end": 337.919}, {"text": "will ask members to raise their hand or unmute their microphone if they wish to question staff or to speak I will then", "start": 337.919, "end": 344.84}, {"text": "create a speakers list and we'll call on members when it's their turn to speak when voting on an item or a motion I ask", "start": 344.84, "end": 351.639}, {"text": "that members ensure they turn on their video and to raise their hand to indicate their vote members this is a paperless meeting", "start": 351.639, "end": 358.84}, {"text": "and I want to REM remind you that you must still submit and improve your motions by email staff are available at", "start": 358.84, "end": 364.96}, {"text": "sec toronto.ca to assist with any motions for the land acknowledgement I", "start": 364.96, "end": 372.12}, {"text": "would like to say on behalf of uh starbo Community Council that the land we're standing on today is the traditional", "start": 372.12, "end": 378.52}, {"text": "territories of many nations including the Miss sagas of the credit", "start": 378.52, "end": 384}, {"text": "annab the chipa the honon and the wend peoples and is now home to many diverse", "start": 384, "end": 390.52}, {"text": "First Nations Inu and mat peoples I also acknowledge that Toronto is covered by", "start": 390.52, "end": 395.88}, {"text": "treaty number 13 signed with the Miss sagas of the credit and the Williams treaty signed with multiple Miss sagas", "start": 395.88, "end": 402.4}, {"text": "and Chipawa bands at this point I'll ask if there's any Declarations of Interest under the", "start": 402.4, "end": 408.599}, {"text": "municipal conflict of interest act seeing none uh could I have somebody", "start": 408.599, "end": 416.12}, {"text": "move a motion to confirm the minutes from our last meeting of December 1st 2022 so", "start": 416.12, "end": 422.039}, {"text": "move thank you councelor Crawford all in favor and that", "start": 422.039, "end": 428.039}, {"text": "carries I will now go through the agenda right must switch", "start": 428.039, "end": 434.479}, {"text": "page um our first item SC 2.1 is 1625 1633 and 1641 Kingston Road", "start": 434.479, "end": 444.52}, {"text": "and 52 birchcliff Avenue rental housing Dem demolition application this is a", "start": 444.52, "end": 450.28}, {"text": "final report uh we have one speaker listed so I will hold that", "start": 450.28, "end": 455.759}, {"text": "down uh SC 2.21 120 dawnside Drive is an application for offense exemption we", "start": 455.759, "end": 463.08}, {"text": "have speakers for that I will hold that down uh SC 2.3 is 65 dford Avenue an", "start": 463.08, "end": 471.8}, {"text": "application for offense exemption in Ward", "start": 471.8, "end": 477.319}, {"text": "21 would anybody like to move that or hold that uh Mr chair I think there are", "start": 477.36, "end": 482.919}, {"text": "um two options there one is to Grant and one's to refuse I'd like to Grant the um", "start": 482.919, "end": 488.24}, {"text": "the exemption okay thank you this was a recurrent uh item from our last meeting", "start": 488.24, "end": 495.759}, {"text": "in uh I think December okay and if we can have that", "start": 495.759, "end": 502.56}, {"text": "motion on the screen for councelor Thompson all in favor does anybody have", "start": 502.56, "end": 508.44}, {"text": "any questions on the motion seeing none all in favor of the", "start": 508.44, "end": 515.2}, {"text": "motion and that c motion passes our next item is 16 Summerton", "start": 515.2, "end": 521.518}, {"text": "place an application for offense exemption in board 22 uh we have a speaker on that item so", "start": 521.519, "end": 529.04}, {"text": "I will hold that down uh SC 2.57 done Watson Drive an", "start": 529.04, "end": 534.519}, {"text": "application for offense exemption in Ward 25 we have speaker on that I will", "start": 534.519, "end": 540.32}, {"text": "hold that item number seven is 312 morish Road an", "start": 540.32, "end": 545.48}, {"text": "application for fense exemption we have speakers on that item I will hold that", "start": 545.48, "end": 551.56}, {"text": "one uh SC 2.8 49 Bellamy Road South an application to remove a private Tree in", "start": 551.56, "end": 559.399}, {"text": "Ward 20 counselor Crawford thank you Mr chair", "start": 559.399, "end": 565.24}, {"text": "I will move staff recommendations which is to deny coun", "start": 565.24, "end": 571.64}, {"text": "permit okay thank you councelor Crawford any questions of the Mover seeing none all in favor of the", "start": 571.64, "end": 580.839}, {"text": "recommendation that carries uh number nine is 140 Corsa", "start": 580.839, "end": 587.12}, {"text": "drive an application remove a private tree uh there are speakers on that item", "start": 587.12, "end": 592.44}, {"text": "I will hold that down number 10 is 83 callings Brook", "start": 592.44, "end": 598.16}, {"text": "Boulevard an application remove a private Tree in BO 22 councelor", "start": 598.16, "end": 606.04}, {"text": "mantis uh to the chair uh councelor mantis is uh not", "start": 606.12, "end": 611.72}, {"text": "here okay uh and he's not online that I'm seeing so I will hold", "start": 611.72, "end": 618.399}, {"text": "that down maybe he's just running late this", "start": 618.399, "end": 622.079}, {"text": "morning number 11 SC 2.11 is an always stop control at", "start": 623.72, "end": 630.32}, {"text": "Brooklin Avenue and bark Dean Hills is in W 20 councelor Crawford you have any", "start": 630.32, "end": 636.92}, {"text": "yeah Mr chair I'd like to move uh an amendment to remove the word not from this to have scarbo Community Council", "start": 636.92, "end": 644.24}, {"text": "authorize the Allway compulsory stop all right thank you are there any", "start": 644.24, "end": 650.12}, {"text": "questions of councelor Crawford seeing none all in favor of the", "start": 650.12, "end": 655.959}, {"text": "motion that carries number 12 is SC 2.12 is an accessible", "start": 655.959, "end": 663.56}, {"text": "parking space at mateline Avenue in W 20 councelor Crawford I will move staff", "start": 663.56, "end": 671.959}, {"text": "recommendations all right any questions of councelor Crawford seeing none all in", "start": 671.959, "end": 677.04}, {"text": "favor of the staff recommendations on this item that carries uh number 13 parking", "start": 677.04, "end": 683.48}, {"text": "amendments ellare Road uh culdesac in W 25", "start": 683.48, "end": 689.839}, {"text": "I'll coun sorry Deputy Mayor Melby I'll move the recommendations Deputy Mayor mckel is", "start": 689.839, "end": 696.32}, {"text": "moving the recommendations are there any questions seeing none all in favor that", "start": 696.32, "end": 703.079}, {"text": "carries uh SC 2.14 a U-turn prohibition at dun marray Boulevard between", "start": 703.079, "end": 709}, {"text": "eaglestone Road and Gable Hurst Crescent in Ward", "start": 709, "end": 714.16}, {"text": "22 um to Madam clerk councelor Manis still is not available uh", "start": 714.16, "end": 720.2}, {"text": "no all right I will hold that one down for a few more minutes", "start": 720.2, "end": 727.639}, {"text": "uh I'm sorry there's a speaker on that one as well I believe uh SC 2.15 Road", "start": 727.639, "end": 734.36}, {"text": "Safety review for Port Union Road in W 25 thank you I have a motion Deputy", "start": 734.36, "end": 739.399}, {"text": "Mayor Melby sorry thank you I have a motion to", "start": 739.399, "end": 743.639}, {"text": "defer okay that consideration of this item be deferred until the Oh I thought we were going to defer to", "start": 744.959, "end": 751.199}, {"text": "may may sorry yeah the May 2023 meeting at scarber Community Council and that's", "start": 751.199, "end": 757.399}, {"text": "just because staff are looking at the warrants that we have for uh speed bump", "start": 757.399, "end": 764.6}, {"text": "consideration so we should have that report back from staff before that time and then we can revisit", "start": 764.6, "end": 770.639}, {"text": "it okay thank you Deputy Mayor Mel moving deferral of the item until our May meeting of scarbo community council", "start": 770.639, "end": 777.16}, {"text": "are there any questions on the mo seeing none all in favor with the motion", "start": 777.16, "end": 783.04}, {"text": "and that carries uh SC 2.16 uh through highways Belinda Square", "start": 783.04, "end": 789.279}, {"text": "Sandy Hook square and Sylvester Square in Ward 22 which is councilor mantis so", "start": 789.279, "end": 795.72}, {"text": "I will uh sorry and there's a speaker listed on that one as", "start": 795.72, "end": 801}, {"text": "well uh SE 2.17 are appointments to business Improvement area Board of", "start": 801, "end": 807.04}, {"text": "management in W 20 and W 21 no speakers councelor Crawford or", "start": 807.04, "end": 815.72}, {"text": "Thompson did either one of you want to hold this item or move it together um Mr chair uh Council Thompson here I would", "start": 815.72, "end": 821.76}, {"text": "like to move a motion uh the clerk has my motion uh deleting two names and", "start": 821.76, "end": 827.399}, {"text": "adding three names from the w r Heights", "start": 827.399, "end": 835.72}, {"text": "Bia okay the motion is on the screen does anybody have any questions on the", "start": 836.48, "end": 842.12}, {"text": "motion all in favor of the amendment that carries uh item is", "start": 842.12, "end": 848.079}, {"text": "amended all in favor and that carries right thank you very much so we", "start": 848.079, "end": 855.32}, {"text": "are going back to item number one SC 2.1 1625 1633 and", "start": 855.32, "end": 862.8}, {"text": "16 sorry do any members have any items of new business that they would like to add to the agenda", "start": 862.8, "end": 870.36}, {"text": "seeing none all right thank you uh now we're going back to SC 2.1 1625 1633 and", "start": 872.079, "end": 880}, {"text": "1641 Kingston Road and 52 birchcliff Avenue rental housing demolition", "start": 880, "end": 886.32}, {"text": "application this is a final report in uh W 20 and speakers sorry my", "start": 886.32, "end": 894.92}, {"text": "apologies so we have speakers listed on this item the first speaker Anna Anna", "start": 894.92, "end": 900.44}, {"text": "doar Gully is Miss Gully", "start": 900.44, "end": 906.519}, {"text": "available you may have to just press the button for your may I begin does that", "start": 925.8, "end": 932.399}, {"text": "work y you can start whenever you want you have H five minutes to address uh Community Council great thank you good", "start": 932.399, "end": 938.88}, {"text": "morning Mr chair and thank you for the opportunity to address Garbo Community Council today my name is Anna jully I am", "start": 938.88, "end": 944.56}, {"text": "the former chair and founder of the birchcliff village Community Association and for many many years now I have run", "start": 944.56, "end": 950.079}, {"text": "an Engaged Facebook group made of 5,000 plus uh community members in the area of bercliff and Scarboro Southwest I'm here", "start": 950.079, "end": 957.199}, {"text": "because I've been working in various ways uh to support the cause concerns and voices of the tenants of 1625 1633", "start": 957.199, "end": 964.12}, {"text": "and 1641 Kingston Road otherwise known as lenmore Court since the tenants were first notified that the developer alter", "start": 964.12, "end": 970.72}, {"text": "plann to displace them as if it was a fate a comple in August 2020 nearly two months before the developer was actually", "start": 970.72, "end": 976.759}, {"text": "submitted an official application uh to the city in October 2020 as a citizen I want to draw your attention as", "start": 976.759, "end": 983.04}, {"text": "counselors uh to the ludicrously high volume of demolitions of affordable housing that are happening in my", "start": 983.04, "end": 989.399}, {"text": "community I'm quite sure all over this city uh they've been proposed in my community of birchcliff Southwest and I", "start": 989.399, "end": 994.8}, {"text": "sit here with uh two tenants and there are I understand other tenants in this room today who are not speaking um and", "start": 994.8, "end": 1001.8}, {"text": "these have happened these proposals have happened during a pandemic when it has been hard harder than normal to consult", "start": 1001.8, "end": 1007.199}, {"text": "tenants and I think that's wrong and I think you need to pay attention to that unless you want more ten cities in", "start": 1007.199, "end": 1012.68}, {"text": "neighborhoods close to home I would like to start by asserting on the record how appallingly inequitable this process is", "start": 1012.68, "end": 1018.959}, {"text": "been for tenants how tilted towards the developers interests and viewpoints of executive level City decision makers and", "start": 1018.959, "end": 1026.12}, {"text": "how poorly tenants voices have been truly considered despite the events titled tenant consultation or public", "start": 1026.12, "end": 1033.4}, {"text": "consultation if it is the city's intention as I truly really hope it is", "start": 1033.4, "end": 1038.52}, {"text": "uh to meaningfully engage especially our most vulnerable citizens in the year that is today 2023 you have to actually", "start": 1038.52, "end": 1045.839}, {"text": "be prepared through these consultation processes change outcomes based on what", "start": 1045.839, "end": 1051.08}, {"text": "you hear especially from the most vulnerable and underrepresented stakeholders in your processes I would", "start": 1051.08, "end": 1057.44}, {"text": "be very happy uh to provide an abundance of examples of this process and its problems to any counselor who cares", "start": 1057.44, "end": 1063.96}, {"text": "about Equity who would like to hear about how this process can and should be improved please reach out to me anytime", "start": 1063.96, "end": 1070.039}, {"text": "today we understand that scar bro council is being asked to approve and recommend for City council's approval the rental housing demolition permit", "start": 1070.039, "end": 1077.039}, {"text": "based on the city's satisfaction that there is an affordable rental housing um plan to replace uh the housing for the", "start": 1077.039, "end": 1083.84}, {"text": "tenants and to assist them to mitigate hardship we have a very specific ask for you today we're asking you to defer this", "start": 1083.84, "end": 1090.559}, {"text": "decision and recommendation for approval of demolition until such a time that City staff are able to present in", "start": 1090.559, "end": 1096.24}, {"text": "significant and explicit detail the detailed firm unchangeable and tenant approved tenant relocation and", "start": 1096.24, "end": 1102.96}, {"text": "assistance plan to be included in the public record as part of this approval the one that you're being asked to make", 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December 14th 2022 at that meeting tenants were under the impression that the plan was", "start": 1143.84, "end": 1149.28}, {"text": "indeed a proposal as indicated on the housing planner slides quite clearly and at no point since have they seen a", "start": 1149.28, "end": 1154.88}, {"text": "detailed final and agreed to version of that plan and therefore they don't actually know what the real plan is and", "start": 1154.88, "end": 1160.559}, {"text": "item 1 C does not provide explicit details I secondly would like to ask you to have the settlement that the city of", "start": 1160.559, "end": 1166.32}, {"text": "Toronto reached on the case with ol uh during their case management proceeding to be made public in a matter", "start": 1166.32, "end": 1172.44}, {"text": "of public record alongside uh the detailed specific and explicit uh uh", "start": 1172.44, "end": 1177.84}, {"text": "request um that we're making to have the details of the tenant assistance and relocation plan included in the materials before you make this decision", "start": 1177.84, "end": 1185.12}, {"text": "specific details we want to see in the final plan on public record before your approval because tenants have asked for", "start": 1185.12, "end": 1190.24}, {"text": "them throughout this process is safeguarding Affordable rents and perpetuity not for 10 years um this will", "start": 1190.24, "end": 1196.24}, {"text": "no longer be affordable rental stock 10 years from now if you don't make it Perpetual a specific commitment to get", "start": 1196.24, "end": 1201.44}, {"text": "tenants rehoused in our immediate community so they aren't displaced specific assurance that all 33 units will actually be affordable housing at", "start": 1201.44, "end": 1207.799}, {"text": "the end of this development not just the folks that are left in the building after the rest have been bullied out um tenants want mental health care they", "start": 1207.799, "end": 1214.48}, {"text": "have gone through the most ridiculous ordeal I have been part of it with them um I want them to get therapeutic", "start": 1214.48, "end": 1220.159}, {"text": "support that's what they're asking for they ask for that at the consultation and we did not see that in a revised proposal the rental Gap payments need to", "start": 1220.159, "end": 1227.08}, {"text": "be specified in writing on on record and further we want to make sure that tenants are included in the approvals", "start": 1227.08, "end": 1233.2}, {"text": "process if any material changes are made to the rental replacement and reallocation process at any later date", "start": 1233.2, "end": 1239.559}, {"text": "to close defer this application for approval now until City staff are prepared to present a detailed item uh", "start": 1239.559, "end": 1246.159}, {"text": "be uh explaining exactly how tenants are going to be relocated and exactly how", "start": 1246.159, "end": 1251.24}, {"text": "they're going to be assisted through this process B the plan uh needs to include the satisfaction of uh the", "start": 1251.24, "end": 1257}, {"text": "tenants if of any material changes and finally that you include the tenants from these buildings among the list of", "start": 1257, "end": 1262.28}, {"text": "stakeholders noted in this report that must approve any proposed change so that it is not only City Executives uh the", "start": 1262.28, "end": 1268.88}, {"text": "chief planner for example who get to approve changes uh but it's actually tenants themselves who are most", "start": 1268.88, "end": 1274}, {"text": "effective and most able to determine are their interests worse off uh if a plan", "start": 1274, "end": 1279.08}, {"text": "is materially changed rather than a bureaucrat who is not living their lived experience I thank you for your opportunity to address the council this", "start": 1279.08, "end": 1286.96}, {"text": "morning okay thank you is darar gully do uh any councelors have questions of the", "start": 1286.96, "end": 1294.799}, {"text": "depent seeing none thank you very much councelor eny counselor councelor", "start": 1294.799, "end": 1300.159}, {"text": "Thompson yeah yeah I wonder if you could just come back thank", "start": 1300.159, "end": 1305.279}, {"text": "you so I just wanted to make sure I'm clear with respect to the city's policy", "start": 1305.279, "end": 1310.88}, {"text": "regarding uh a tenant replacement plan it's not clear to those tenants that are", "start": 1310.88, "end": 1316.559}, {"text": "affected by this replacement requests as to what the plan for relocation is for", "start": 1316.559, "end": 1322.44}, {"text": "them is that what you're saying what I'm saying is that they have not seen a finalized plan what they saw was a proposed plan at a meeting on December", "start": 1322.44, "end": 1329.159}, {"text": "14th and when you read item 1 C which we only saw posted late yesterday afternoon so it doesn't give us a lot of time to", "start": 1329.159, "end": 1335.039}, {"text": "think about this problem uh but when we looked at item 1C it says that there's a satisfactory plan doesn't say", "start": 1335.039, "end": 1341.039}, {"text": "specifically what that plan is doesn't say exactly what's in that plan and when it was presented to the tenants on", "start": 1341.039, "end": 1346.2}, {"text": "December 14th it was presented as proposed plan and it was presented in the context of a consultation in which", "start": 1346.2, "end": 1351.44}, {"text": "the tenants provided feedback and have subsequently not received any confirmation that any of their requests for alteration of that proposal have", "start": 1351.44, "end": 1358.32}, {"text": "been addressed in the final plan fair enough sir you're looking for further clarification no sorry no let me ask the", "start": 1358.32, "end": 1364.48}, {"text": "question sorry sorry so you're looking for further clarification I understand the request to have a deferral however", "start": 1364.48, "end": 1371.76}, {"text": "if the clarification could be provided here today and there is satisfaction in terms of understanding because I'm", "start": 1371.76, "end": 1378.159}, {"text": "assuming ass uming that you've indicated there are 33 tenants in the building correct how many of those tenants are", "start": 1378.159, "end": 1384.4}, {"text": "you represent do you live in the building no I don't live in the building as I said at the beginning of my", "start": 1384.4, "end": 1389.84}, {"text": "statement I I just I just asked a question I just want it wasn't clear to me whether you did or not okay thank you", "start": 1389.84, "end": 1395.08}, {"text": "um and how many of the tenants that are affected of the 33 are part of the group", "start": 1395.08, "end": 1402.24}, {"text": "that you're represent are you representing all 33 of those uh tenants or are you repr representing a PO of", "start": 1402.24, "end": 1409.039}, {"text": "them I mean how many ten of there there's no longer 33 units that had runter at the beginning of this process", "start": 1409.039, "end": 1415.2}, {"text": "in the building because many of them have actually been bullied out with cash offer so ma' Sor I don't know is the", "start": 1415.2, "end": 1420.44}, {"text": "answer to that question and I don't know that anyone knows quite frankly I'm not sure that anyone knows is the answer to that question we started with thank you", "start": 1420.44, "end": 1426.559}, {"text": "very much ma'am thank you very much Mr chair okay other question the", "start": 1426.559, "end": 1434.48}, {"text": "depent saying none thank you very much mrly all our next deput is uh Tracy", "start": 1434.52, "end": 1443.36}, {"text": "cheru you start speaking thank you chair good morning my", "start": 1444.64, "end": 1450.96}, {"text": "name is Tracy christoforo um I am a resident of 1625 Kingston Road I've", "start": 1450.96, "end": 1456.4}, {"text": "lived there for 24 years I'm a single parent I've raised both of my children in this unit and my children are still", "start": 1456.4, "end": 1463.159}, {"text": "with me I I am the President of tenants have no Rights Association", "start": 1463.159, "end": 1469.12}, {"text": "who who was originally listed as a party to the O hearing until our party was", "start": 1469.12, "end": 1474.44}, {"text": "fraudulently removed and not replaced in the O I have a special needs son who I", "start": 1474.44, "end": 1480.76}, {"text": "guarantee at this point will be with me for a very long time um like I say I've", "start": 1480.76, "end": 1487}, {"text": "been there for 24 years we want a deferral today we're", "start": 1487, "end": 1492.159}, {"text": "requesting a deferral we have not received any proper information of compensation or relocation and we're", "start": 1492.159, "end": 1497.44}, {"text": "getting different information sent to us from different Avenues and nothing is concrete nothing has been provided to us", "start": 1497.44, "end": 1504.08}, {"text": "properly of any knowledge to close here our asks are to defer this approval and", "start": 1504.08, "end": 1509.64}, {"text": "recommendation to council for the demolition permit until a significant details of the tenant relocation and", "start": 1509.64, "end": 1516.32}, {"text": "assistance plan are presented in their full and final detail as they'll be put on the title as part of the materials to", "start": 1516.32, "end": 1522.52}, {"text": "be reviewed alongside the requested approval from this Council and Toronto city council and", "start": 1522.52, "end": 1529.399}, {"text": "also that you include on the record the city settlement with the development please the developer the from the O", "start": 1529.399, "end": 1538.24}, {"text": "process and B that the plan includes satisfaction of the requests for change tenants have made to city planners and", "start": 1538.24, "end": 1544.679}, {"text": "other bodies including the O throughout this process see that you include the tenants from", "start": 1544.679, "end": 1551.039}, {"text": "these buildings among the list of stakeholders that must approve any proposed change so that it's not only", "start": 1551.039, "end": 1557.32}, {"text": "City executives but the tenants themselves who have agency to determine if a revised proposal is better or worse", "start": 1557.32, "end": 1563.96}, {"text": "for their interest finally this is a process that really must be changed it's the reason that our community is", "start": 1563.96, "end": 1569.84}, {"text": "currently being filled with tent cities instead of affordable and", "start": 1569.84, "end": 1576.48}, {"text": "accessible housing and if any of you are interested we'll sit down with each and every one of you after these proceedings", "start": 1576.48, "end": 1582.32}, {"text": "and walk you through the systems problems we've witnessed and been a part of through this process as significant", "start": 1582.32, "end": 1588.88}, {"text": "detail to show you exactly how these processes disadvantage tenants and we will show you also how and why this", "start": 1588.88, "end": 1596.12}, {"text": "could be improved and changed this is a a mental physical environmental damage", "start": 1596.12, "end": 1602.799}, {"text": "severe damage to all of us and we are affected by it and we want our voices to be heard please please defer this today", "start": 1602.799, "end": 1611}, {"text": "thank", "start": 1611, "end": 1613.24}, {"text": "you okay thank you very much Miss Christoper does anybody have any questions of the", "start": 1617.08, "end": 1624.48}, {"text": "Deputy uh seeing none our next listed uh deput is Louise Tinker on behalf of the", "start": 1624.76, "end": 1631.399}, {"text": "applicant Al Tree very lisis Tinker my apologies need", "start": 1631.399, "end": 1636.679}, {"text": "more coffee uh no no problem thank you chair and members of uh Council and thank you", "start": 1636.679, "end": 1644}, {"text": "for the opportunity to speak to you today uh I am leis tinker am the planning consultant working in assisting", "start": 1644, "end": 1650.72}, {"text": "all tree developments with their applications uh for the Mixed use development at this site um I've been", "start": 1650.72, "end": 1657.039}, {"text": "involved with the project since early 2020 and of knowledge of some of the key uh activities and uh applications that", "start": 1657.039, "end": 1663.84}, {"text": "have been filed in connection with this project I'm calling in today for two reasons uh one is to uh Express support", "start": 1663.84, "end": 1671.72}, {"text": "for the uh recommendations to council as outlined in the planning staff report and then secondly to make myself", "start": 1671.72, "end": 1678.279}, {"text": "available to uh members of council who may have questions of me or of the", "start": 1678.279, "end": 1683.32}, {"text": "process um and so with that um I'll make myself available if you do have any", "start": 1683.32, "end": 1689.48}, {"text": "questions okay thank you Mr Tinker are there any questions of the", "start": 1689.48, "end": 1695.2}, {"text": "deput council Thompson councelor Thompson thank you uh Mr chair through you to Mr uh is it", "start": 1695.36, "end": 1704.559}, {"text": "thicker so Mr Tinker so Tinker Tiner okay okay thank you I didn't hear it clearly um you've heard the", "start": 1704.6, "end": 1713.72}, {"text": "um the presentation that's been made to committee uh by the two", "start": 1713.72, "end": 1720.399}, {"text": "deput there's clearly a a concern with respect to the replacement plan for the", "start": 1720.399, "end": 1728.679}, {"text": "rental units and the impact on the residents I'm just wondering if you", "start": 1728.679, "end": 1734.36}, {"text": "could explain to us as committee what the replacement plan is for the 33", "start": 1734.36, "end": 1741.76}, {"text": "dwelling that's located at set address which is uh", "start": 1741.76, "end": 1747}, {"text": "1625 1633 1641 Kingston Road and then 52 burcliff", "start": 1747, "end": 1755.6}, {"text": "Avenue uh yes thank you councelor and through you chair um the tenant uh", "start": 1756.6, "end": 1762.6}, {"text": "rental replacement and assistance proposal for this project is outlined on page five of the planning staff report", "start": 1762.6, "end": 1770.279}, {"text": "uh before you um it outlines some of the key components of what that plan will", "start": 1770.279, "end": 1775.72}, {"text": "will include um and it includes obviously a right to return to the uh to", "start": 1775.72, "end": 1781.72}, {"text": "the new development there will be a four-story uh rental apartment building uh on the site fronting onto birchcliff", "start": 1781.72, "end": 1788.6}, {"text": "Avenue and tenants will have the right to return to a same type and similar", "start": 1788.6, "end": 1794.24}, {"text": "rent as they experience today at lenmore court they'll also will be entitled to a", "start": 1794.24, "end": 1799.48}, {"text": "compensation package that will equal three months rent which is pursuant to the rental tencies act there'll also be", "start": 1799.48, "end": 1807.36}, {"text": "um a a rent Gap payment uh this was an important uh discussion with the with", "start": 1807.36, "end": 1813.32}, {"text": "the tenants and with City Planning staff about um not having any additional hardship to the tenants whilst they're", "start": 1813.32, "end": 1820.519}, {"text": "temporarily located offsite and so that rent Gap uh payment will allow them to", "start": 1820.519, "end": 1826.679}, {"text": "continue to pay similar rent today um at another location until such time as", "start": 1826.679, "end": 1832.399}, {"text": "their a new unit ready on the subject site there'll also be um a financial", "start": 1832.399, "end": 1838.84}, {"text": "allowance for move in and move out uh costs for the tenants and then there'll", "start": 1838.84, "end": 1844.32}, {"text": "be additional uh compensation and assistance as 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"start": 1993.96, "end": 2001}, {"text": "to speak today in the matters of what's Happening uh but before I begin please", "start": 2001, "end": 2007.2}, {"text": "notice Mr Tinker said proposal when he presented his", "start": 2007.2, "end": 2013.639}, {"text": "materials now to close here again or asks defer this", "start": 2013.639, "end": 2018.72}, {"text": "approval defer this approval and recommendation to council for the demolition permit until a significant", "start": 2018.72, "end": 2026.559}, {"text": "details of the teny location assistance plans are presented in their full and", "start": 2026.559, "end": 2032.2}, {"text": "final detail as they will be put on the title as part of the materials to be reviewed alongside the requested", "start": 2032.2, "end": 2039.08}, {"text": "approvals for the council and Toronto City Council and also that you include on the record uh the city settlement", "start": 2039.08, "end": 2046}, {"text": "with the developer from the Olt process and B that the plan includes", "start": 2046, "end": 2051.48}, {"text": "satisfaction of the request for change tenants have made to city planners and other bodies including the O throughout", "start": 2051.48, "end": 2058.599}, {"text": "the process see that you include the tenants from these buildings among the list of stakeholders that must approve", "start": 2058.599, "end": 2066.358}, {"text": "any proposed change so that it is not only City Executives but the tenants", "start": 2066.359, "end": 2072.32}, {"text": "themselves who have a who have agency to determine if a revised proposal is", "start": 2072.32, "end": 2077.52}, {"text": "better or worse for their interest finally this is a process that must be", "start": 2077.52, "end": 2082.8}, {"text": "changed it is the reason that our community is currently being filled with 10 cities instead of affordable and", "start": 2082.8, "end": 2089.56}, {"text": "accessible housing and if any of your interest they will sit down with each 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"end": 2140.64}, {"text": "in the meantime within the three years these tenants have to live in suitcases because nobody's going to set up their", "start": 2140.64, "end": 2146.68}, {"text": "temporary homes to move back so they have three years of mental distress to", "start": 2146.68, "end": 2152.04}, {"text": "deal with this thank you", "start": 2152.04, "end": 2157.839}, {"text": "thank you Miss Barry are there any questions for the dep event uh councel Thompson councelor Thompson go ahead you", "start": 2159.64, "end": 2165.88}, {"text": "have five minutes hi good morning hi good morning welcome and thank you for being here uh I just wanted to just probe a little bit you indicated I think", "start": 2165.88, "end": 2172.48}, {"text": "part of your commentary you indicated that um to defer this item until such", "start": 2172.48, "end": 2177.52}, {"text": "time that the changes that the tenants are seeking and so on are Incorporated part of the process can you maybe just", "start": 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that Mr chair um thank you very much uh those are my", "start": 2424.2, "end": 2431.319}, {"text": "questions thank you councelor Thompson other questions to the deput seeing none thank you very much", "start": 2431.319, "end": 2438.04}, {"text": "Miss Barry uh at this point we that's the end of the deput on this item and", "start": 2438.04, "end": 2443.359}, {"text": "we're going to questions of Staff councelor Crawford first thank you", "start": 2443.359, "end": 2451.64}, {"text": "follow by councelor Myers and then councelor Manon yeah I'll I'll try to get through these questions fairly quickly with regard to the tenant re", "start": 2451.64, "end": 2459.24}, {"text": "relocation and assistance plan can you go over um you know on the consultation", "start": 2459.24, "end": 2464.92}, {"text": "perspective the the amount of times you have sat down with the tenants and this is the Graham of course uh the work that", "start": 2464.92, "end": 2470.92}, {"text": "has happened in in 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{"text": "one-bedroom or Studio unit and it's $2,500 for tenants that live in a two or three bedroom unit and those moving", "start": 2627.88, "end": 2634.76}, {"text": "allowances are based on a survey that we completed with uh Toronto movers to try to get a sense of what are you know the", "start": 2634.76, "end": 2640.599}, {"text": "expected moving costs that tenants will face um finally there's the right to", "start": 2640.599, "end": 2646.16}, {"text": "return to a a new unit once a new building is completed", "start": 2646.16, "end": 2651.8}, {"text": "um that right to return so tenants will return at rent similar to their current rent that means that their rent can be", "start": 2651.8, "end": 2658.4}, {"text": "increased by the provincial guideline during the intervening period so if they're away for 3 years and there were three provincial guidelines the rent", "start": 2658.4, "end": 2665.4}, {"text": "could be increased by those three provincial guidelines and once they return for the length of their tency no", "start": 2665.4, "end": 2671.079}, {"text": "matter how long they stay guidelines are the the only permitted increases", "start": 2671.079, "end": 2678.04}, {"text": "um and I missed one thing uh the the applicant is also to secure a leasing", "start": 2678.04, "end": 2683.079}, {"text": "agent to help any eligible tenants find and apply to to rental vacancies um", "start": 2683.079, "end": 2688.68}, {"text": "during that six-month notice period thank you so again um this is um has", "start": 2688.68, "end": 2694.359}, {"text": "been communicated to the residents as best I mean we we've heard otherwise from some of the residents and I understand that but I just want to make", "start": 2694.359, "end": 2699.96}, {"text": "sure from the from the perspective of the city policy that um every if this is", "start": 2699.96, "end": 2705}, {"text": "approved today that this is what the package will look like how will we be or how will they be informed um of of the", "start": 2705, "end": 2714.319}, {"text": "package or what we have we're working with them on how how will that be communicated to them formally so", "start": 2714.319, "end": 2720.559}, {"text": "typically there's not like a tenants will get notice that a decision was made by city council after that has happened", "start": 2720.559, "end": 2725.64}, {"text": "but there's generally not a formal update letter sent to tenants it's something we could add to the process", "start": 2725.64, "end": 2731}, {"text": "here that tenants would get an update after we've registered an agreement that or we could do it before we register an", "start": 2731, "end": 2736.119}, {"text": "agreement reminding them of what was discussed at the tenant at the tenant meeting and that we're we have an", "start": 2736.119, "end": 2741.44}, {"text": "agreement in place to secure those specific elements um but typically tenants will get their next major update", "start": 2741.44, "end": 2748.24}, {"text": "with sort of exactly what they'll be getting for compensation when they're provided with their six-month notice but", "start": 2748.24, "end": 2753.68}, {"text": "uh we can again with regard to your office GR potential of reaching out to", "start": 2753.68, "end": 2759.079}, {"text": "to again the the suggestion is we need to defer this so they can understand", "start": 2759.079, "end": 2764.96}, {"text": "more what is what the decision frankly is um but we have the ability uh you", "start": 2764.96, "end": 2770.48}, {"text": "know to to communicate with them let them know here's what your rights are here's what has been agreed to here's what's been negotiated uh and all that", "start": 2770.48, "end": 2778.079}, {"text": "okay but we have that we still have that ability to do that absolutely we can always send a a letter to tenants", "start": 2778.079, "end": 2783.359}, {"text": "updating them on the process and I think to be clear this the city wouldn't back away from what was discussed at a tenant", "start": 2783.359, "end": 2790.359}, {"text": "meeting unless we further consulted with tenants um you know we and you don't need a motion this is an undertaking", "start": 2790.359, "end": 2796.48}, {"text": "that could could take place I just want to make sure on on so my colleagues would know that this is something we can under sure to undertake I know my we", "start": 2796.48, "end": 2803.04}, {"text": "notice the time hasn't I have a just a couple questions with regard to the overall application um and I just wonder", "start": 2803.04, "end": 2808.72}, {"text": "if I speak to planning to answer this this uh this was appealed this uh development was appealed it has gone to", "start": 2808.72, "end": 2815.16}, {"text": "the Olt uh can you talk a bit about the resolution where where city council stands on this I know some of this uh is", "start": 2815.16, "end": 2821.92}, {"text": "and I'm not anticipating or expecting to go into private on this but can you just talk about the resolution where council", "start": 2821.92, "end": 2828.319}, {"text": "is on this overall", "start": 2828.319, "end": 2831.24}, {"text": "development the chair counselor um It's Christian from City Planning the uh", "start": 2833.64, "end": 2840.64}, {"text": "settlement offer made by the applicant was considered by city council and uh adopted by City Council", "start": 2840.64, "end": 2848.16}, {"text": "in uh J at its July meeting of 2022 um there is settlement proceedings before the Ontario L tribunal on the", "start": 2848.16, "end": 2854.96}, {"text": "planning matters which are subject to um continued conversations on the housing", "start": 2854.96, "end": 2860.96}, {"text": "piece uh in the fall and a decision was released by The Olt I believe in late", "start": 2860.96, "end": 2866.72}, {"text": "October or early November um those are all public matters the settlement offer", "start": 2866.72, "end": 2872.28}, {"text": "uh made to council has now has been made public and the of course the decision of", "start": 2872.28, "end": 2877.839}, {"text": "the tribunal is also public okay so again that's so it is public there so", "start": 2877.839, "end": 2883}, {"text": "there's nothing uh at this point um that is still Inc confidential uh but the everything on the decision by Council", "start": 2883, "end": 2889.839}, {"text": "which was supported by Council um I in fact didn't support that but it was supported by overall Council but everything is", "start": 2889.839, "end": 2896.68}, {"text": "public uh that's correct If U and the link is provided in the housing report to the um to the planning uh solicitors", "start": 2896.68, "end": 2904.88}, {"text": "report and the uh settlement attachments have been made public so exactly what", "start": 2904.88, "end": 2910.28}, {"text": "the settlement offer was that Council endorsed is public um and and last question", "start": 2910.28, "end": 2915.48}, {"text": "counselor yeah just quick question with regard to deferral what are the are the risks are there any what would the be", "start": 2915.48, "end": 2921.52}, {"text": "purpose now again from the the deput have suggested they'd like deferral but can you comment on what a deferral could", "start": 2921.52, "end": 2928.319}, {"text": "potentially mean or not I mean is it I'm just curious on on from your perspective on the planning side of", "start": 2928.319, "end": 2934.839}, {"text": "it I don't know if you can answer that through through the chair um I I believe perhaps that might be best directed to", "start": 2935.72, "end": 2941.359}, {"text": "Legal uh Mr Mark Peele is here on on um", "start": 2941.359, "end": 2946.599}, {"text": "the [Music] screen yes uh through the CH it's a", "start": 2946.599, "end": 2953.88}, {"text": "markp here from legal I mean the matter as you heard from Mr ventes a moment ago was settled at the Ontario land tribunal", "start": 2953.88, "end": 2960.64}, {"text": "uh and a decision is issued um a final order on the rezoning is being withheld", "start": 2960.64, "end": 2966.319}, {"text": "by the tribunal which is effectively the final zoning bylaw amendment is being withheld pending a number of matters", "start": 2966.319, "end": 2973.16}, {"text": "being satisfied one of those matters is um the approval of the uh rental housing", "start": 2973.16, "end": 2979.48}, {"text": "demolition uh application which is before you today which includes the various uh rental uh tenant relocation", "start": 2979.48, "end": 2986.68}, {"text": "and assistant matters that have been uh the subject of discussion um so the", "start": 2986.68, "end": 2992.04}, {"text": "final order would be delayed um as a result of a deferral um and that would", "start": 2992.04, "end": 2998.52}, {"text": "be the the consequence there would be no zoning we wouldn't be moving towards um a zoning uh bylaw being issued for the", "start": 2998.52, "end": 3006.28}, {"text": "site thank you those are my questions okay thank you councel Crawford uh next I have councelor Myers", "start": 3006.28, "end": 3013.839}, {"text": "counc Myers go ahead you have five minutes uh thank you chair uh through the chair uh just first I just like to", "start": 3013.839, "end": 3020}, {"text": "express um thank you to the deput that came in I know this is a very stressful", "start": 3020, "end": 3025.44}, {"text": "situation um I just had a couple questions of Staff of the 33 tenants um", "start": 3025.44, "end": 3033.4}, {"text": "how many were involved in the consultation", "start": 3033.4, "end": 3037.798}, {"text": "process don't have a specific number in front of me I think it was about 15 tenants though okay", "start": 3039.16, "end": 3047.44}, {"text": "and just to confirm there were no changes made to the proposed plan uh in", "start": 3047.44, "end": 3054.119}, {"text": "to the final plan no no okay and when were the when were the", "start": 3054.119, "end": 3059.64}, {"text": "documents that have been referenced when were those made public yesterday through the chair are", "start": 3059.64, "end": 3066}, {"text": "you referring to the the ol settlement documents I'll defer that question to someone from Community", "start": 3066, "end": 3073.28}, {"text": "planning sorry through the chair the um the Olt decision counselor um was made", "start": 3077.44, "end": 3086.839}, {"text": "uh in at an October hearing um o late October hearing the", "start": 3086.839, "end": 3093.2}, {"text": "date of the decision is December 30th", "start": 3093.2, "end": 3099.68}, {"text": "2022 so that would be when it was released and would have been released to all who um took part in the proceedings", "start": 3099.68, "end": 3108.079}, {"text": "which included the birchcliff residents Association the applicants and um the", "start": 3108.079, "end": 3114.599}, {"text": "city plus interested party so participant", "start": 3114.599, "end": 3120.72}, {"text": "St uh thank you so is there any reason why the final tenant re", "start": 3120.72, "end": 3126}, {"text": "reloc relocation assistance plan is not part of the public record of the", "start": 3126, "end": 3131.4}, {"text": "application of the motion that's or the item that's before", "start": 3131.4, "end": 3136.359}, {"text": "us so through the chair um the the recommendations note that the the tenant", "start": 3136.559, "end": 3143.079}, {"text": "assistance plan should be based on a rent Gap payment so that that primary form of compensation that I outlined and", "start": 3143.079, "end": 3149.04}, {"text": "the right to return at similar rent with some of the further details like the moving allowance further in the report", "start": 3149.04, "end": 3154.68}, {"text": "you're right that there's not like the specific dollar amounts um but the the overall components are you know the the", "start": 3154.68, "end": 3161.88}, {"text": "most significant ones are within the recommendations and the full compensation package is discussed within the report okay uh through the chair is", "start": 3161.88, "end": 3170.64}, {"text": "it normal that mental health support uh forms part of a tenant relocation and", "start": 3170.64, "end": 3176.119}, {"text": "assistance plan or is that is there any preced for that through the chair I don't have examples that I've seen", "start": 3176.119, "end": 3181.52}, {"text": "before we generally we look to connect tenants with some of the free mental support sorry some of the free mental", "start": 3181.52, "end": 3188.52}, {"text": "health supports that are available through the city of Toronto or other community agencies and that's included in all tenant communication that we", "start": 3188.52, "end": 3194.96}, {"text": "provide but I haven't seen an example where we've secured something above and beyond it was something I reached out to", "start": 3194.96, "end": 3201.16}, {"text": "tenants to discuss afterwards but nothing was proposed to me as in terms of what could be done for that um just", "start": 3201.16, "end": 3208.04}, {"text": "that at a high level they would like to see something uh and my final question uh", "start": 3208.04, "end": 3215.2}, {"text": "regarding the safeguarding for the affordable rents does the city have any", "start": 3215.2, "end": 3220.76}, {"text": "ability to deny a rental increase be um of a pro that's", "start": 3220.76, "end": 3226.92}, {"text": "conforming to the provincial guidelines think I might need to speak", "start": 3226.92, "end": 3232.28}, {"text": "to Legal about how AGI like above guideline increases would apply to these units because the rents are secured", "start": 3232.28, "end": 3238.2}, {"text": "through our agreement so they're a bit outside how the residential tencies act", "start": 3238.2, "end": 3243.28}, {"text": "works I think based on our agreements agis generally do not apply to these units because they're secured as", "start": 3243.28, "end": 3248.96}, {"text": "affordable and agis would make them no longer could potentially make them no longer an affordable unit um and I can", "start": 3248.96, "end": 3256.48}, {"text": "outline a bit more about like how our rent protections work for these units if you'd like", "start": 3256.48, "end": 3261.68}, {"text": "um uh thanks could we have legal comment on this as well please", "start": 3261.68, "end": 3267.88}, {"text": "me okay uh through the chair um we would that is a question I think for which", "start": 3273.92, "end": 3279.44}, {"text": "that we would have to be uh Consulting further with with our uh client stakeholder groups in housing prior to", "start": 3279.44, "end": 3285.76}, {"text": "giving an answer on that okay thank you uh no more no further", "start": 3285.76, "end": 3293.2}, {"text": "questions okay thank you counselor uh councelor answers you have five", "start": 3293.2, "end": 3299.359}, {"text": "minutes Christian just want you to uh sorry I just want you to", "start": 3301.799, "end": 3309.76}, {"text": "uh on recommendation", "start": 3309.76, "end": 3316.599}, {"text": "the the the portable R for the 10 year", "start": 3316.599, "end": 3323.359}, {"text": "Mr chair we're not able to hear we're having we're having trouble hearing you could maybe try turning off your video and see if that helps thank", "start": 3330.64, "end": 3338.839}, {"text": "you thank you chair is this better perfect the the question is within one", "start": 3339.2, "end": 3346.319}, {"text": "be for the 10year rental agreement is this part of the affordable house is this part of an affordable", "start": 3346.319, "end": 3352.839}, {"text": "housing uh component or is this an that was made between I believe the well it's", "start": 3352.839, "end": 3359.76}, {"text": "part of the agreement that the uh the property owner had made for the uh for", "start": 3359.76, "end": 3365.559}, {"text": "the", "start": 3365.559, "end": 3367.72}, {"text": "project through the chair um we secure units as affordable or mid-range based", "start": 3371.119, "end": 3376.4}, {"text": "on the the rents at the existing buildings as of the time of application when we secure units as affordable or", "start": 3376.4, "end": 3382.88}, {"text": "mid-range what that means is for a 10-year period any lease that starts within that first 10year period has", "start": 3382.88, "end": 3388.799}, {"text": "those rent restrictions those leases can only incre be increased by the guideline", "start": 3388.799, "end": 3393.96}, {"text": "for the length of that tency so say someone Moves In in year one and lives there for 15 years for that entire", "start": 3393.96, "end": 3399.76}, {"text": "15-year period they would be protected by guideline increases likewise say someone moved in in year nine and lived", "start": 3399.76, "end": 3406.52}, {"text": "there for 15 years that entire 15 years they live there would be protected by the guideline so the restrictions work", "start": 3406.52, "end": 3412.64}, {"text": "for any lease executed in that first 10year period any lease exed outside that period no of the", "start": 3412.64, "end": 3420.28}, {"text": "restrictions either initial rent or increases to rent on an annual", "start": 3420.28, "end": 3426.4}, {"text": "basis so this", "start": 3426.4, "end": 3429.76}, {"text": "is through the chair I believe you're asking and just to clarify if this has a", "start": 3434.079, "end": 3440.799}, {"text": "um I'll say old regime section 37 contribution yes yes and okay so so", "start": 3440.799, "end": 3446.48}, {"text": "through the chair again the the the the approval date of the application was after the community benefit charge or", "start": 3446.48, "end": 3452.44}, {"text": "sorry the okay in principal approval so the community benefit charge regime is in effect so this will be subject to a", "start": 3452.44, "end": 3459.92}, {"text": "community benefit charge and and we did not negotiated section 37 contribution under the previous regime for Community", "start": 3459.92, "end": 3466.52}, {"text": "benefits um but we will be entering into a section 111 agreement to secure the", "start": 3466.52, "end": 3471.92}, {"text": "rental housing and affordability matters as well as the tenant relocation plan which if you need grah can comment", "start": 3471.92, "end": 3477.119}, {"text": "further on that's it thank you thank you Mr I have a quick question sorry is it", "start": 3477.119, "end": 3484.76}, {"text": "possible to", "start": 3484.76, "end": 3489.88}, {"text": "oh you yes the chair who's asking a question Cindy", "start": 3489.88, "end": 3497.359}, {"text": "bar Mr chair it's it's a member of the public uh who've already deputed and", "start": 3497.359, "end": 3502.64}, {"text": "that's not our policy and procedures yeah sorry you're asking questions of Staff by City councilors at this moment", "start": 3502.64, "end": 3510.2}, {"text": "Mr chair I do have some question yeah councelor Thompson go ahead thank you very much Mr chair", "start": 3510.2, "end": 3515.48}, {"text": "through you to staff with respect to our policy on rental replacement as it", "start": 3515.48, "end": 3522.28}, {"text": "relates to demolition what aspect of our policy is being contravene as it relates", "start": 3522.28, "end": 3527.799}, {"text": "to this particular application to the chair none of the", "start": 3527.799, "end": 3534.28}, {"text": "aspects of our policies are being what I was hoping you'd say thank you for that um on um let me just flip down I think", "start": 3534.28, "end": 3541.72}, {"text": "it's page 57 there's I want to just to get some clarity um okay so on page five", "start": 3541.72, "end": 3549.64}, {"text": "of 10 and it goes into page uh six it has here it says the tenant assistance", "start": 3549.64, "end": 3556.24}, {"text": "will be provided to all eligible tenants residing at set address and the 33 units", "start": 3556.24, "end": 3563.039}, {"text": "existing dwelling Etc it goes on it says all eligible tenants will receive the", "start": 3563.039, "end": 3569}, {"text": "following and it lists 1 2 3 4 5 6 seven items there but then it says after it", "start": 3569, "end": 3576.559}, {"text": "says at least 6 months notice of the date that they must vacate their rental unit and and then list uh five items", "start": 3576.559, "end": 3585.48}, {"text": "there and then it has an or on page six which um when I look at it really", "start": 3585.48, "end": 3592.119}, {"text": "quickly I think the difference between the prior and the ladder is that there", "start": 3592.119, "end": 3598}, {"text": "is a rental Gap payment what is the um the sort of", "start": 3598, "end": 3604.2}, {"text": "rationale and how does a tenant benefit can they have both options or the the", "start": 3604.2, "end": 3611.64}, {"text": "option the distinction is that the rent Gap piece why the difference between the two through the chair so there's two", "start": 3611.64, "end": 3618.52}, {"text": "options here and it's because the applicant wanted to leave open the option of finding if tenants want to", "start": 3618.52, "end": 3625.079}, {"text": "take it alternative accommodation for tenants it's a provision under the residential tencies act that they can", "start": 3625.079, "end": 3630.359}, {"text": "offer alternative accommodation and tenants at their option can choose to take it so the way the the second set of", "start": 3630.359, "end": 3637.52}, {"text": "bullets would work is if the owner or applicant was able to find suitable alternative accommodation and I would", "start": 3637.52, "end": 3644.4}, {"text": "expect that it would be at the same rent tenants currently pay they made that offer to tenants and tenants could", "start": 3644.4, "end": 3650.4}, {"text": "choose to take it so basically similar to the rent Gap payment it's meant to be there's no Financial impact to the", "start": 3650.4, "end": 3656.24}, {"text": "tenants they continue paying their same rent in a similar type of unit um under that scenario tenants would still get", "start": 3656.24, "end": 3662.319}, {"text": "the moving assistance since they would have to move and they would still get special needs compensation because that special needs compensation is in part", "start": 3662.319, "end": 3669.119}, {"text": "meant to help for people who may have more challenging moves or might need additional you know stuff to help set up", "start": 3669.119, "end": 3674.92}, {"text": "their apartment appropriately where they refuse or if they choose not to take an", "start": 3674.92, "end": 3680.599}, {"text": "apartment from alry or there's nothing available the rent Gap is what will happen but the the option is always at", "start": 3680.599, "end": 3687.039}, {"text": "the discretion of tenants there's no scenario where what they have to do is dictated by anybody else fair enough now", "start": 3687.039, "end": 3694.319}, {"text": "in light of the current situation with respect to um rental accommodation in", "start": 3694.319, "end": 3701.119}, {"text": "the city of Toronto the displacement and I'll use", "start": 3701.119, "end": 3706.48}, {"text": "that term of these 33 units how do we balance the demand and", "start": 3706.48, "end": 3713.24}, {"text": "Supply impact to the conditions that the residents", "start": 3713.24, "end": 3718.799}, {"text": "would be facing in terms of getting a place so they can rent at these levels", "start": 3718.799, "end": 3726.079}, {"text": "and where would those locations be um and I guess another part of if I", "start": 3726.079, "end": 3733.279}, {"text": "just ask you to follow through in the questioning will the landlord play a", "start": 3733.279, "end": 3739.4}, {"text": "role with respect to assisting the tenants in locating suitable rental", "start": 3739.4, "end": 3745.4}, {"text": "accommodation we try to answer this in in all the parts through the chair um so first is", "start": 3745.4, "end": 3753.559}, {"text": "part of the The Balancing Act is that extended notice period because we recognize it's a lot harder to find", "start": 3753.559, "end": 3759.039}, {"text": "suitable accommodation in Toronto given the low vacancy rates so that is part of why we secure a six-month notice period", "start": 3759.039, "end": 3765.319}, {"text": "instead of a four-month notice period for tenants to to vacate second knowing", "start": 3765.319, "end": 3770.799}, {"text": "how challenging the rental market is is part of why the city moved towards a rent Gap financial assistance piece that", "start": 3770.799, "end": 3777.559}, {"text": "looks at what are rents as reported by cmhc in the local Zone compared to a", "start": 3777.559, "end": 3784.359}, {"text": "tenant's current rent and then finally the landlord does have a small role I mean they provide a leasing agent to", "start": 3784.359, "end": 3791.559}, {"text": "help tenants look for and apply to units to reduce the burden I would also note I think many landlords are are motivated", "start": 3791.559, "end": 3797.92}, {"text": "to help tenants as well because one of the conditions for their final permit is that units are vacant um that they have", "start": 3797.92, "end": 3804.44}, {"text": "vacant possession of the building so there's no way for them to get their final demolition permit without tenants", "start": 3804.44, "end": 3810.039}, {"text": "actually having been able to move out right so I have two more questions for you please um on the 1500 which you", "start": 3810.039, "end": 3817.279}, {"text": "indicated earlier as part of your presentation relating to the um the rental Gap the sort of financial", "start": 3817.279, "end": 3824.2}, {"text": "compensation it's, 1500 that is that a one-time amount and then my second", "start": 3824.2, "end": 3829.96}, {"text": "question if we just guess I can't see my time so I'm not sure how much time I have with respect to the development of", "start": 3829.96, "end": 3838}, {"text": "the new units specifically the rental units will that process begin before the", "start": 3838, "end": 3845.68}, {"text": "other two buildings or the other buildings uh being developed so as to", "start": 3845.68, "end": 3851.279}, {"text": "ensure that the residents who are there now could simply move to a new building", "start": 3851.279, "end": 3857.799}, {"text": "which is a rental building to accommodate their", "start": 3857.799, "end": 3862.76}, {"text": "needs through the chair so I'll answer do you know why um so first that the $1,500 was the", "start": 3862.92, "end": 3870.559}, {"text": "moving allowance um the rent Gap payment is based on that that rent differential I spoke to so for example if cmhc", "start": 3870.559, "end": 3877.76}, {"text": "reported vacant rents of $1,700 for a one-bedroom unit and you rented a one-bedroom unit for $1,000 your rent", "start": 3877.76, "end": 3884.64}, {"text": "Gap is $700 that $700 is multiplied by the length of time tenants are expected to", "start": 3884.64, "end": 3890.799}, {"text": "be displaced so say it is 36 months they would get 700 * 3 six when they provide", "start": 3890.799, "end": 3897.079}, {"text": "vacant possession of their unit so they get it all up front where the displacement period takes longer than", "start": 3897.079, "end": 3902.48}, {"text": "anticipated I think in this instance we secure we anticipated a 30-month displacement tenants will have that", "start": 3902.48, "end": 3908.64}, {"text": "topped up um so say we secured 30 months because that was the expected displacement and displacement goes in", "start": 3908.64, "end": 3915.44}, {"text": "additional six months tenants would receive a six-month top up to their initial rent Gap payment as to timing of", "start": 3915.44, "end": 3921.88}, {"text": "sort of like those replacement units we have Provisions about when the new placement building needs to be completed", "start": 3921.88, "end": 3927.72}, {"text": "and it's tied to certain triggers with their other building here but there's no other requirement for providing rental", "start": 3927.72, "end": 3935.079}, {"text": "housing during the displacement period or you know on site until the actual", "start": 3935.079, "end": 3940.279}, {"text": "replacement building is is", "start": 3940.279, "end": 3943.76}, {"text": "completed okay thank you very much are there anybody else with questions of", "start": 3945.72, "end": 3952.16}, {"text": "sta sorry councel Crawford do you have more questions uh no I don't", "start": 3952.279, "end": 3957.64}, {"text": "sorry okay all right sorry I thought I saw your hand going up uh at this point so uh speakers on the", "start": 3957.64, "end": 3965.24}, {"text": "site counc Crawford yeah thank you Mr chair um for my um colleagues let me uh", "start": 3965.24, "end": 3971.88}, {"text": "sort of lay out what has happened over the last couple years in this so you get a good understanding 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and if you have had any experience in this once he goes to the OT takes the community out", "start": 4054.319, "end": 4059.92}, {"text": "of the conversation unfortunately takes the Met of the debate and it's very frustrating for me as a uh counselor", "start": 4059.92, "end": 4066.44}, {"text": "making a decision but it's challenging it's challenging for a lot of the the residents who I've spoken with over the", "start": 4066.44, "end": 4072.319}, {"text": "time but again it it it did go to the Olt um and agreements did take place um the", "start": 4072.319, "end": 4078.799}, {"text": "Birch the the city of course this did come in October and and and we would have voted on that uh I did not support", "start": 4078.799, "end": 4084.559}, {"text": "it uh when it did come to council even though it got through because there were still challenges I have some fundamental challenges about the size of the", "start": 4084.559, "end": 4090.68}, {"text": "building and all that but ultimately 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here to us here today and thank you for that I hope that", "start": 4541.6, "end": 4548.6}, {"text": "never changes but I do think that with your local counselor and working with you and so on ma'am this is not an", "start": 4548.6, "end": 4555.84}, {"text": "opportunity for you to provide input at the moment but I will just be very clear your local counselor has committed and", "start": 4555.84, "end": 4561.76}, {"text": "has worked through a process and in order to assist the community and so I'm", "start": 4561.76, "end": 4567.44}, {"text": "going to uh support what is actually before us today and again I want to", "start": 4567.44, "end": 4573.88}, {"text": "thank you very much for the presentation so Mr chair those are my remarks thank", "start": 4573.88, "end": 4579.52}, {"text": "you thank you councelor Thompson other speakers on this item n allowed to", "start": 4579.52, "end": 4587.638}, {"text": "speak okay thank you very much so we do I believe we have so there's no motions", "start": 4588.12, "end": 4593.6}, {"text": "other than the recommendation chair may I say something I'm sorry chair may I say", "start": 4593.6, "end": 4598.8}, {"text": "something uh no sorry at this point we've heard from members of the public that are that are registered um so the", "start": 4598.8, "end": 4605.679}, {"text": "process now we're voting on the recommendations before us and I'll ask for a recorded vote Mr chair thank you", "start": 4605.679, "end": 4613.159}, {"text": "CH okay in favor of the recommendations before us recorded", "start": 4613.4, "end": 4618.639}, {"text": "please okay recorded vote please councelor Crawford Deputy Mayor", "start": 4618.639, "end": 4623.96}, {"text": "melie councelor Myers councelor Thompson councelor angsley counselor uh so this item passes M Mr", "start": 4623.96, "end": 4631}, {"text": "chair I did not have my hand up I'll be voting in the negative have the clerk read it out oh", "start": 4631, "end": 4637.44}, {"text": "sorry Mr chair can we do that again please can we have the clerk do it because she's in the", "start": 4637.44, "end": 4643.4}, {"text": "room sure all in favor of the", "start": 4643.4, "end": 4650.239}, {"text": "recommendations councelor Thompson councelor Myers counc uh Deputy Mayor", "start": 4650.239, "end": 4656}, {"text": "mckelvie councelor anley and councelor mantis any", "start": 4656, "end": 4662.6}, {"text": "opposed Council Crawford the motion", "start": 4662.6, "end": 4667.76}, {"text": "passes all right thank you to the clerk our uh next item is SC 2.2 120 dawnside", "start": 4669.96, "end": 4678.92}, {"text": "drive and application for offense exemption in W 20 we have two speakers", "start": 4678.92, "end": 4686.4}, {"text": "listed s I'm just going to my speakers list uh two speakers listed on this item", "start": 4686.4, "end": 4693.76}, {"text": "the first speaker is Elizabeth Moyer followed by Gina W", "start": 4693.76, "end": 4699.92}, {"text": "waa sorry who's the first speak here Elizabeth Moyer oh that's me thank you", "start": 4701, "end": 4707.4}, {"text": "so much counselor all right M Moyer you have five you have five minutes to address Community Council whenever you're ready thank you um as you know", "start": 4707.4, "end": 4715.44}, {"text": "most of you know me personally I have been uh in the community for over 35", "start": 4715.44, "end": 4720.76}, {"text": "years and been very active in my community I have been supportive of changes in my community which is why", "start": 4720.76, "end": 4726.76}, {"text": "Scaro Southwest is one of the most set out developer areas in all of", "start": 4726.76, "end": 4732.8}, {"text": "Toronto the considerations for this exemption are the following while it may be their side and back lot this is my", "start": 4732.8, "end": 4740}, {"text": "front lot this is my driveway there are very clear indications of what is allowed in your 174 page bylaws of what", "start": 4740, "end": 4748.6}, {"text": "is supposed to be in a front lawn and the driveway um this um is also the only", "start": 4748.6, "end": 4756.52}, {"text": "side that has a sidewalk so every day the children from region Heights Public School walk to and from Scarboro", "start": 4756.52, "end": 4763.719}, {"text": "Southwest Boys and Girls Club this every inch of this fence creates more of a", "start": 4763.719, "end": 4769.88}, {"text": "wind tunnel and snow tunnel putting these Little Children at Risk which is concerning uh previously we had a chain", "start": 4769.88, "end": 4778.08}, {"text": "link fence on this side which allowed the air and snow to blow freely and", "start": 4778.08, "end": 4783.92}, {"text": "naturally through the front Lawns this fence has now changed that um this", "start": 4783.92, "end": 4790.679}, {"text": "property has a history of ignoring bylaws and then asking for forgiveness", "start": 4790.679, "end": 4795.88}, {"text": "uh the previous counselor Holland barard netti actually 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{"text": "2.2 and um yeah and it's not uh creating any um issue or any safety issue or any", "start": 5016.56, "end": 5023.96}, {"text": "hindering or any uh problem with the neighbors um so and it's not like", "start": 5023.96, "end": 5029.08}, {"text": "connected to any Neighbor House or anything so yeah and then on top if I", "start": 5029.08, "end": 5034.52}, {"text": "moved the the fence which was built before we bought the house um because it's only 20 cm height first of all", "start": 5034.52, "end": 5041.679}, {"text": "going to cost us a lot um second time like um secondly um the safety and the", "start": 5041.679, "end": 5051.159}, {"text": "um privacy that's provided um you know that that we will appreciate as a family", "start": 5051.159, "end": 5057.44}, {"text": "and U we will appreciate", "start": 5057.44, "end": 5061.719}, {"text": "that thank you all right thank you Miss W does anybody have any questions of the depent", "start": 5062.56, "end": 5068.719}, {"text": "councelor Crawford yeah thank you uh for coming so just can you clarify did you", "start": 5068.719, "end": 5073.8}, {"text": "purchase the pro when you purchased the property was the fence already built yes okay so you purchased the", "start": 5073.8, "end": 5080.88}, {"text": "house in 2018 the the offense was already there oh okay so you you you didn't go through the the permit process", "start": 5080.88, "end": 5087.04}, {"text": "and all that to find out that you were only allowed 2 meters no so yeah okay so and I'm looking at the picture here that", "start": 5087.04, "end": 5093.36}, {"text": "um if you brought it into compliance uh it looks like you probably would just have to remove it looks like a lattice", "start": 5093.36, "end": 5100.44}, {"text": "portion on the top it seems to be about the right height so the only change that would happen is", "start": 5100.44, "end": 5107.239}, {"text": "bringing that lattice off would that be an assumption again I'm just looking at the picture I haven't been to the site", "start": 5107.239, "end": 5113.36}, {"text": "would that be correct from your perspective yes okay and and you're", "start": 5113.36, "end": 5119.36}, {"text": "suggesting to so you're still going to have a six foot high fence there but it's just that little bit bit of extra", "start": 5119.36, "end": 5125.32}, {"text": "20 cm or whatever it is that would have to be changed and you're just asking for the exemption because of", "start": 5125.32, "end": 5132.119}, {"text": "that yes please um it will be if I remove the top portion um then we're", "start": 5132.119, "end": 5138.08}, {"text": "going to have a fence less than six feet and but that 20 cm if it's giving me", "start": 5138.08, "end": 5144.48}, {"text": "like giving me and my family more privacy and more safety and it's not", "start": 5144.48, "end": 5150.679}, {"text": "hindering or bothering or creating any issue to us sidewalk Walkers or the", "start": 5150.679, "end": 5156.159}, {"text": "neighbors I I think um I hope will be considered in um in in I'll get the", "start": 5156.159, "end": 5163.679}, {"text": "exception okay thank you thank you councelor Crawford other", "start": 5163.679, "end": 5169.76}, {"text": "questions of the", "start": 5169.76, "end": 5172.36}, {"text": "depent seeing none questions of Staff yeah just a quick question if I", "start": 5174.88, "end": 5181.56}, {"text": "could Council Crawford yeah so just uh question to staff um on this", "start": 5181.56, "end": 5188.159}, {"text": "um it's loud 2 meters um it's 2.4 M was", "start": 5188.159, "end": 5193.28}, {"text": "that 2 point and the uh resident is saying that is actually it's 2.2 M so where do you deter or where do you do", "start": 5193.28, "end": 5200.32}, {"text": "the uh the rule of where it is on on on the um the side of the sidewalk or on", "start": 5200.32, "end": 5207.199}, {"text": "the other side I'm just curious how you determine 2.4 maybe 2.2", "start": 5207.199, "end": 5213.32}, {"text": "I don't know if staff are", "start": 5216.159, "end": 5220.719}, {"text": "online Sor staff available my apologies my apologies Mr chair I was on mute good", "start": 5221.76, "end": 5227.44}, {"text": "morning Mr chair members of council for the record my name is James slom SL", "start": 5227.44, "end": 5233.6}, {"text": "I'm the supervisor in the East District I did listen to uh the speaker who's the", "start": 5233.6, "end": 5239.48}, {"text": "registered property owner um they were 100% correct I'm looking at the body of", "start": 5239.48, "end": 5245.4}, {"text": "the report it speaks 2.4 meters uh in review of the officer's notes defense in", "start": 5245.4, "end": 5250.96}, {"text": "question that's before you today is actually 2.23 meters so we are speaking", "start": 5250.96, "end": 5256.08}, {"text": "of an exemption of2 M thank you and again when did you it", "start": 5256.08, "end": 5263.52}, {"text": "sounded as if when I was speaking with the uh deput that um they purchased the", "start": 5263.52, "end": 5268.8}, {"text": "property back in in I think it was 2018 and the fence was already there so", "start": 5268.8, "end": 5274.239}, {"text": "this is now 2023 5 years later were you aware or have you had any uh complaints", "start": 5274.239, "end": 5280.92}, {"text": "on the height of Defense prior to the infraction that you uh you", "start": 5280.92, "end": 5287.88}, {"text": "saw um so staff received this complaint um onor about October of 2022 I don't", "start": 5288.48, "end": 5296.639}, {"text": "have any prior knowledge that prior you want to stand down I can", "start": 5296.639, "end": 5302.119}, {"text": "get access", "start": 5302.119, "end": 5305.56}, {"text": "but I can confirm that the complaint came in okay so it came in came came in uh", "start": 5309.04, "end": 5315.96}, {"text": "considerably later after the fence was uh built okay thank you no questions F", "start": 5315.96, "end": 5321.44}, {"text": "the 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quite similar to this in fact um I don't look at this you", "start": 5367.76, "end": 5374.76}, {"text": "know it' be different if it it was a front where it was like 1.4 meters and we're looking at an exemption of six but", "start": 5374.76, "end": 5380.96}, {"text": "this is is a minor exemption um recognizing there are you know concerns", "start": 5380.96, "end": 5386}, {"text": "from one of the residents uh that are beside but this is typical of of the kind of exemptions we have done in the", "start": 5386, "end": 5392.159}, {"text": "past so I I will uh approve approve or move to approve the uh the exemption on", "start": 5392.159, "end": 5397.4}, {"text": "this particular house and again comment I mean when this house this fence as I understand was built probably four or", "start": 5397.4, "end": 5404.199}, {"text": "five years ago and we were just getting the complaint you know in the last six months or just prior to uh 2022 so um I", "start": 5404.199, "end": 5412.48}, {"text": "don't know if that says anything about how long or why why we didn't see this before but uh again this fence has been", "start": 5412.48, "end": 5418.679}, {"text": "up for a considerable amount of time no when you're looking at the original owner who would have built this house", "start": 5418.679, "end": 5424.04}, {"text": "they had a an expectation that they should have followed the process clearly they didn't do that uh but unfortunately", "start": 5424.04, "end": 5429.719}, {"text": "it wasn't caught but again I do consider this just a minor exemption and I'm I'm willing to support it thank", "start": 5429.719, "end": 5437.36}, {"text": "you okay thank you councelor Crawford uh other questions of the", "start": 5437.679, "end": 5443.08}, {"text": "Mover seeing none other speakers on this", "start": 5443.08, "end": 5447.84}, {"text": "item seeing none so we have a motion before us move by councelor Crawford all", "start": 5448.36, "end": 5453.44}, {"text": "in favor motion and that", "start": 5453.44, "end": 5459.119}, {"text": "carries our next item is SC uh 2.4 16 summered in place an application", "start": 5459.119, "end": 5467.04}, {"text": "for offense exemption uh we have one in Ward uh", "start": 5467.04, "end": 5472.44}, {"text": "sorry Ward 25 we have one registered speaker Bart Habor", "start": 5472.44, "end": 5479.239}, {"text": "uh sorry to interrupt to the chair um the deput for c for item four is Ming", "start": 5493.159, "end": 5501.92}, {"text": "hangu oh sorry I have it my apologies y I'm reading the less strong sorry one", "start": 5501.92, "end": 5507.88}, {"text": "registered depent on uh number four uh 16 Summerton Place application", "start": 5507.88, "end": 5514.76}, {"text": "for offense exemption inward 22 my apologies the speaker is Ming hang l oh", "start": 5514.76, "end": 5521.719}, {"text": "good morning Mr chair I'd like to just share my screen regarding PowerPoint slide that I prepared if that's possible", "start": 5521.719, "end": 5529.36}, {"text": "yep thank", "start": 5529.36, "end": 5532.56}, {"text": "you and you have five minutes to speak whenever you're ready okay uh it seems that I still have", "start": 5534.679, "end": 5541.8}, {"text": "I cannot share this content uh sorry interrupt to the chair it just takes a", "start": 5541.8, "end": 5547.199}, {"text": "moment okay one", "start": 5547.199, "end": 5551.08}, {"text": "second all right there we go you have five minutes whenever you're ready we can see the your shared screen sure", "start": 5558.04, "end": 5565.44}, {"text": "thank you good morning uh Mr chair and uh the", "start": 5565.44, "end": 5570.6}, {"text": "community council thank you for giving me this opportunity to present present kind of my view of the construction that", "start": 5570.6, "end": 5576.199}, {"text": "was done on 16 Summerton Place uh just to begin um the residents of 16 summon", "start": 5576.199, "end": 5582.96}, {"text": "place and us uh we have been on good terms and we have been okay with all the construction that they have done so far", "start": 5582.96, "end": 5590.639}, {"text": "uh the only thing that was concerning us is uh the fence that was built on top of", "start": 5590.639, "end": 5595.679}, {"text": "their pool uh which uh even the including the pool it was completed uh", "start": 5595.679, "end": 5601.159}, {"text": "last summer so here is kind of a slideshow a slide of what uh perspective", "start": 5601.159, "end": 5608.96}, {"text": "of our backyard looked like uh before the fence was built so we had a kind of a open View and it was a you can see", "start": 5608.96, "end": 5615.84}, {"text": "that it was you can see we there was a lot of trees that we can see and just", "start": 5615.84, "end": 5621.199}, {"text": "kind of moving on to the next slide U right so during end of summer last year uh they did built this pole", "start": 5621.199, "end": 5629.239}, {"text": "with the deck and we are absolutely okay with that however at the very very end of the construction there was uh this", "start": 5629.239, "end": 5636.199}, {"text": "fence that was built and we we weren't approached by the owner so we did go", "start": 5636.199, "end": 5641.639}, {"text": "over to him and he mentioned that this fence will be around 6 foot in height uh", "start": 5641.639, "end": 5647.56}, {"text": "but after the construction was done uh this was measured to be around 10 ft high and there was an inspector from 311", "start": 5647.56, "end": 5656.44}, {"text": "uh who measured the fence and they confirmed that it was over the city limit you can see this is a picture of", "start": 5656.44, "end": 5663.08}, {"text": "the construction while it was happening and after the construction was", "start": 5663.08, "end": 5669.8}, {"text": "done there was just some concerns I wanted to list out in the presentation U so number one you know", "start": 5669.8, "end": 5675.44}, {"text": "the fence does kind of block off a huge section and on top 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the owner", "start": 5722.199, "end": 5730.119}, {"text": "shorten the fence to within the city 11 and thank you uh that's the end of my", "start": 5730.119, "end": 5737.638}, {"text": "presentation all right thank you very much uh are there any questions of the deput", "start": 5738.119, "end": 5746.04}, {"text": "questions of the deput okay uh questions of staff on this", "start": 5755, "end": 5761.239}, {"text": "item Manis", "start": 5762.36, "end": 5767.76}, {"text": "you is the put it we granted the", "start": 5771.04, "end": 5777.8}, {"text": "exemption to the fact the pool has been built", "start": 5779, "end": 5784.88}, {"text": "or is it only strictly because of", "start": 5784.88, "end": 5790.639}, {"text": "height uh sorry to interrupt to the chair we cannot hear the", "start": 5790.639, "end": 5796.32}, {"text": "counselor is this better thank you I can hear your now sir um the question is", "start": 5798.56, "end": 5805.52}, {"text": "that the height exemption is it only restricted due to the height or is would", "start": 5805.52, "end": 5811.199}, {"text": "it have been or is it going to be also considering the fact that the pool", "start": 5811.199, "end": 5816.28}, {"text": "was built for security U reasons and safety", "start": 5816.28, "end": 5821.84}, {"text": "reasons Mr Sher through you the height in question and the report before you", "start": 5821.84, "end": 5827.6}, {"text": "pertains to the height of privacy screen around the", "start": 5827.6, "end": 5833.32}, {"text": "PO so um so it it's only because of the height I mean if it was lower would it", "start": 5837.48, "end": 5845.4}, {"text": "have an impact on safety if someone jumped over the fence would there be an extra your", "start": 5845.4, "end": 5852.44}, {"text": "access to the pool uh there to answer your your question it's a it's a your question", "start": 5852.44, "end": 5859.48}, {"text": "pertains to the pool enclosure which is the perimeter fence which is the the chain link 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correct that's my understanding do we", "start": 5926.639, "end": 5933.76}, {"text": "know what that height is I do not okay but in any event um the", "start": 5933.76, "end": 5942.56}, {"text": "wall of the pool is exposed is that what I'm seeing there there's a wall there in", "start": 5942.56, "end": 5948.32}, {"text": "addition to the um additional additional fencing that's been put in it's being", "start": 5948.32, "end": 5954.8}, {"text": "determined as a privacy screen you are correct uh councelor", "start": 5954.8, "end": 5961.639}, {"text": "Thompson that's the edge of the pool and privacy screen I asked staff uh this work week uh the exact height the height", "start": 5961.639, "end": 5969.719}, {"text": "from grade exceeded the uh height on the measuring tape which means it exceeded", "start": 5969.719, "end": 5975.36}, {"text": "25 feet height right that that was going to be my question but you've read my mind thank you for that um can because I", "start": 5975.36, "end": 5982.92}, {"text": "can't see um but on the last two slides when I", "start": 5982.92, "end": 5988.84}, {"text": "look at the slide um I I I take uh I can", "start": 5988.84, "end": 5993.88}, {"text": "make an assumption but I don't know for a fact but if you can help me to understand I'm assuming that", "start": 5993.88, "end": 6000.92}, {"text": "the um the speaker's property because he has indicated that the impact that it's", "start": 6000.92, "end": 6007.32}, {"text": "having on his garden and and against just his property I'm presuming that", "start": 6007.32, "end": 6013.199}, {"text": "that would be his backyard facing the backyard of the pool and I don't know", "start": 6013.199, "end": 6020.96}, {"text": "what the directions are I'm I'm not able to um sort of ascertain that but what", "start": 6020.96, "end": 6026.8}, {"text": "I'm trying to understand is whether or not um there is a clear line of sight", "start": 6026.8, "end": 6034.199}, {"text": "from a lower area um looking at the more", "start": 6034.199, "end": 6039.76}, {"text": "sloped um uh Ridge and or a bit of a buffer there whether or not there'll be", "start": 6039.76, "end": 6045.76}, {"text": "a sight line direct let's say from a kitchen or a bathroom that looks into", "start": 6045.76, "end": 6051.119}, {"text": "the corresponding Neighbors pool or to be able to I know have any concern that", "start": 6051.119, "end": 6057.8}, {"text": "would be I guess uh apparent as a result of this the necessity or the need to", "start": 6057.8, "end": 6063.679}, {"text": "actually have this privacy fence that's in essence 25 ft high do you know I I'm just", "start": 6063.679, "end": 6072.8}, {"text": "curious uh councelor Thompson I did have a firstperson conversation with staff", "start": 6072.8, "end": 6077.92}, {"text": "this week and it's my understanding that there's a clear unobstructed vantage point from the depence yard into uh the", "start": 6077.92, "end": 6087.36}, {"text": "correct okay um so is this a precedent I", "start": 6087.36, "end": 6093.4}, {"text": "mean I don't recall my time here seeing something like this before are you familiar with other types", "start": 6093.4, "end": 6100.28}, {"text": "of requests and other types of enclos area which would suggest the necessity", "start": 6100.28, "end": 6106.36}, {"text": "and need for a privacy screen of this kind I mean could there be Shrubbery", "start": 6106.36, "end": 6111.88}, {"text": "that could be planted there that could perhaps do the same thing which would be um shall I say less", "start": 6111.88, "end": 6119.92}, {"text": "impactful to the community on this site um coun Thompson uh you are correct", "start": 6119.92, "end": 6129.119}, {"text": "um it's it's an it's a report that we don't typically see a community council", "start": 6129.119, "end": 6135.199}, {"text": "merely because a it's a privacy screen screen not a boundary line fence so that", "start": 6135.199, "end": 6140.92}, {"text": "makes it a Nuance the other addition to that is like you said the excessive excessive height of said privacy", "start": 6140.92, "end": 6150.36}, {"text": "screen all right okay um may I ask just one final question through you Mr chair", "start": 6150.36, "end": 6157.28}, {"text": "yeah Mr suum given your experience which is extensive what are your concern with", "start": 6157.28, "end": 6163.44}, {"text": "respect to this requests", "start": 6163.44, "end": 6169}, {"text": "um I don't know if concern would be um the word to use um as you know Municipal license", "start": 6169, "end": 6176.36}, {"text": "standards um well then if I can information if I can then remove the", "start": 6176.36, "end": 6181.76}, {"text": "word concern and what are the policy challenges that you envision if we were", "start": 6181.76, "end": 6188.239}, {"text": "to approve this request today so if if you would approve it I", "start": 6188.239, "end": 6195.36}, {"text": "guess there would be precedence um before Community Council that um um a", "start": 6195.36, "end": 6201.4}, {"text": "privac screen of this fight um I guess can see an individual can seek exemption", "start": 6201.4, "end": 6207.56}, {"text": "for a privacy screen of this type the other matter would be if you were to um", "start": 6207.56, "end": 6213.44}, {"text": "prove it um I I guess that's really the only the", "start": 6213.44, "end": 6219.52}, {"text": "only item that City would have concerned was that there would be precedence for this considerable height thank you Mr", "start": 6219.52, "end": 6226.639}, {"text": "slum thank you Mr chair okay thank you councelor Thompson other questions of from counselors on", "start": 6226.639, "end": 6234.4}, {"text": "this item councelor Myers thank you chair uh through the chair just a quick question on", "start": 6234.4, "end": 6241.08}, {"text": "clarification is there a difference in the height allowances between a privacy screen and a", "start": 6241.08, "end": 6247.52}, {"text": "fence or they treated the same for these purposes and the exemption that we're", "start": 6247.52, "end": 6252.84}, {"text": "being asked to approve is that just for the fence itself or for the fence in", "start": 6252.84, "end": 6258.84}, {"text": "addition to the gradiation elevation", "start": 6258.84, "end": 6264}, {"text": "uh it would be the fence on top of the uh the pool", "start": 6264, "end": 6269.96}, {"text": "itself the unfortunate part the unfortunate part is I can't speak to the height of the fence because it's", "start": 6269.96, "end": 6275.32}, {"text": "measured at grade and again it exceeded the um measuring tape of the staff I", "start": 6275.32, "end": 6283.04}, {"text": "can't normally I'd be able to normally I'd be able to advise Council on the", "start": 6283.04, "end": 6289.239}, {"text": "exact height which is the reason why we're all here is for the exemption of the exact typ unfortunately um I", "start": 6289.239, "end": 6297.56}, {"text": "can thank you I did ask I did ask I did ask the officer to give me uh", "start": 6297.56, "end": 6304.8}, {"text": "a in her best it's a it's approximately", "start": 6304.8, "end": 6311.84}, {"text": "15t counc is that the end of your questions yes thank you okay all right uh speakers on this item", "start": 6319.679, "end": 6328.84}, {"text": "councilor mantis uh Mr I'm gonna close the video in case the um the sound is g to be", "start": 6328.84, "end": 6336}, {"text": "better okay now seeing that I I see that the home owner is not", "start": 6336, "end": 6345.08}, {"text": "uh present in", "start": 6345.08, "end": 6350.599}, {"text": "this and the fact that the height", "start": 6350.599, "end": 6357.239}, {"text": "and and weer this item", "start": 6358.119, "end": 6362.52}, {"text": "for view of the home make", "start": 6366.8, "end": 6372.76}, {"text": "AIS councelor if you want to move a motion to that extent we can do that uh to the chair sorry to interrupt um I'm", "start": 6374.84, "end": 6381.92}, {"text": "sorry but I couldn't hear is the uh is the ward counselor deferring and to for how many cycles I apologize but it was", "start": 6381.92, "end": 6388.88}, {"text": "um we couldn't catch that oh no problem Ellen yeah believe councel Manis would", "start": 6388.88, "end": 6394.239}, {"text": "like to defer a motion to defer the item for next Community", "start": 6394.239, "end": 6400.159}, {"text": "Council sorry madam clerk did you get that yes thank you", "start": 6409.239, "end": 6414.52}, {"text": "okay all right so councilor Manis is moving a motion to defer this item to the next uh scarbro community council", "start": 6414.52, "end": 6421.599}, {"text": "meeting uh does anybody have any questions of the", "start": 6421.599, "end": 6426.36}, {"text": "Mover uh seeing none uh thank you councelor mantis uh other speakers on this", "start": 6427.48, "end": 6434.52}, {"text": "item seeing none so we have a motion to defer this item to our next meeting of", "start": 6436.159, "end": 6441.239}, {"text": "Scarboro Community Council all in favor that carries and so this item has", "start": 6441.239, "end": 6448.599}, {"text": "been deferred until the next meeting of Scaro Community Council all right our next", "start": 6448.599, "end": 6457.44}, {"text": "item", "start": 6457.44, "end": 6460.44}, {"text": "sorry our next item is", "start": 6462.56, "end": 6467.719}, {"text": "uh SC 2.25 7 Don Watson drive there there is an application for offense", "start": 6468, "end": 6475.119}, {"text": "exemption this is in Ward 25 and we do have a registered speaker uh Mr B", "start": 6475.119, "end": 6484.92}, {"text": "habar uh good morning I I was just wondering do you have um all the pictures that I sent in I I don't know", "start": 6484.92, "end": 6490.92}, {"text": "how this works I have hard copies of the photographs of the fence we have", "start": 6490.92, "end": 6496.239}, {"text": "pictures in the report oh okay and if you sent additional ones they would be", "start": 6496.239, "end": 6502.119}, {"text": "displayed I don't know I have I have additional ones then those aren't", "start": 6502.119, "end": 6507.639}, {"text": "available over and above what's in the report okay just what I sent but you can put them up yeah oh there's a projector", "start": 6507.639, "end": 6515.8}, {"text": "screen in front of you right here oh", "start": 6515.8, "end": 6521.96}, {"text": "okay um good day my name is Bart heor and I'm the owner of sa dun Watson Drive in the lovely neighborhood of Centennial", "start": 6522.4, "end": 6530.159}, {"text": "this fence exemption is part of a larger pool fence enclosure for our swimming pool which we finally completed this", "start": 6530.159, "end": 6536.159}, {"text": "fall after a 2-year nightmare with a contractor who collects deposits for", "start": 6536.159, "end": 6541.32}, {"text": "many custom customers and doesn't show up for months at a time my Oasis Construction Inc left it with an", "start": 6541.32, "end": 6547.32}, {"text": "unfinished pool about 60% completed um last last June um see Google reviews I", "start": 6547.32, "end": 6555.08}, {"text": "had I I wrote up a Google review for this it's uh quite something the fence", "start": 6555.08, "end": 6560.48}, {"text": "the the fence in question here the Juliet gate that that we had installed was custom made by railing and", "start": 6560.48, "end": 6567.239}, {"text": "custom IR Iron Works of scarbro it meets all specifications with with regards to the to Toronto M Municipal Code chapter", "start": 6567.239, "end": 6574.76}, {"text": "447 fences according to this code the fence must be one meter from the basement door oh sorry that's it there", "start": 6574.76, "end": 6584.28}, {"text": "oh great it must be one meter from the basement door", "start": 6584.28, "end": 6589.679}, {"text": "um uh must be 1 M from the basement door however because of space restrictions as", "start": 6589.679, "end": 6596.159}, {"text": "you can see in these pictures that we have um it's it's it was impossible to", "start": 6596.159, "end": 6601.719}, {"text": "do because I on the left side uh on on one side of the walk out from the basement that's the East Side um is a", "start": 6601.719, "end": 6609.719}, {"text": "utility shed we can just see that over by the meter and on on the other side", "start": 6609.719, "end": 6614.88}, {"text": "the west side is the kitchen wall uh which is our Greenhouse kitchen the this fence that we constructed here is is 4T", "start": 6614.88, "end": 6622.119}, {"text": "high it's Ste construction with a 4T High self-closing locking steel gate according to code it is mounted on a", "start": 6622.119, "end": 6629.199}, {"text": "poured concrete wall with large concrete bolts into the into the concrete we", "start": 6629.199, "end": 6634.88}, {"text": "decided to place it on the concrete wall as one meter would have been impossible due to space restrictions on either side", 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trying to do due diligence just to make sure everything's fine okay and then you're", "start": 6826.599, "end": 6832.92}, {"text": "confident that the way this fence is built like the real reason for having this fence is to make sure people don't fall in the pool right so the way this", "start": 6832.92, "end": 6839.28}, {"text": "is set up it's fully enclosed there's no way for somebody to walk out the door and fall in the pool there's absolutely no way if you all safety is concerns", "start": 6839.28, "end": 6846.639}, {"text": "have been met and so uh you're just really doing this out of you know due diligence to make sure you're following process okay thank you thank you for", "start": 6846.639, "end": 6853.32}, {"text": "coming in today and uh I know this fence it was coming up and have heard and a few things have happened so thank you", "start": 6853.32, "end": 6858.36}, {"text": "for your your patience with it thank you very much thank you", "start": 6858.36, "end": 6864.36}, {"text": "thank you Deputy May Melby other questions on this item to the", "start": 6865.56, "end": 6871.079}, {"text": "deput seeing none thank you very much sir uh we'll now take this back into committee questions of", "start": 6871.48, "end": 6878.92}, {"text": "Staff no questions of Staff uh speakers thank you Mr chair I'd like to", "start": 6882.119, "end": 6888.159}, {"text": "move the fence exemption and just thank the the applicant for uh for trying to do the", "start": 6888.159, "end": 6894.159}, {"text": "right thing here and go through the process in the right way um and given there's no safety concerns I'm I'm happy", "start": 6894.159, "end": 6901.119}, {"text": "to to move this okay thank you Deputy Mayor Meli Deputy Mayor Meli is moving approval of", "start": 6901.119, "end": 6907.84}, {"text": "Defense exemption all in favor thank you none opposed and that", "start": 6907.84, "end": 6915}, {"text": "carries thank our uh next item is SC 2.6 20", "start": 6915, "end": 6923.639}, {"text": "little Leaf Drive an application for offense exemption this is in Ward 25 scarber Rouge Park we have two depants", "start": 6923.639, "end": 6931.88}, {"text": "uh Adam Wheats and draa Wheats", "start": 6931.88, "end": 6937.44}, {"text": "[Music] morning you have five minutes to address", "start": 6952.7, "end": 6957.719}, {"text": "the committee whenever you're ready thank you for for the time that you are giving me to speak uh good morning for", "start": 6957.719, "end": 6965.32}, {"text": "everybody and I would like I would like to say uh on the discussing on the", "start": 6965.32, "end": 6971.8}, {"text": "height of the fence that the next door neighbor made it on his own with his own", "start": 6971.8, "end": 6978.32}, {"text": "Nails B the front looks ugly to my eye", "start": 6978.32, "end": 6984.36}, {"text": "look ugly for the from the street you can hardly see from my window the", "start": 6984.36, "end": 6990.639}, {"text": "sidewalk or people who they walk there and that things has to be approved no", "start": 6990.639, "end": 6997.76}, {"text": "one has that high fence uh to the front", "start": 6997.76, "end": 7003.4}, {"text": "as they did on their own now that he's having a camera built by himself on his", "start": 7003.4, "end": 7010.36}, {"text": "roof he did by he didn't even go by the law to make the fence proper way six", "start": 7010.36, "end": 7018.159}, {"text": "feet high I did call 311 to make on my own fence they told me I cannot go uh", "start": 7018.159, "end": 7025.48}, {"text": "more than 6 feet some people they can they can go higher and I would like to", "start": 7025.48, "end": 7032.639}, {"text": "know if that can be changed to brought to normal size it's look ugly it's look", "start": 7032.639, "end": 7039.96}, {"text": "bad uh the height look bad previous owners before them they made a six feet", "start": 7039.96, "end": 7046.44}, {"text": "high fence which is old and stand on the end of the the property and they used to come they lean", "start": 7046.44, "end": 7055.199}, {"text": "the fence to stay stronger so with a new fence that he just made it's uh did half", "start": 7055.199, "end": 7064.639}, {"text": "way to the to his property because I call survey they done the proper they", "start": 7064.639, "end": 7071.4}, {"text": "measured the prop property property and there is the things that he from the", "start": 7071.4, "end": 7076.84}, {"text": "corner of his house he has to move in in his", "start": 7076.84, "end": 7083.04}, {"text": "property at least by the end of the fence one meter so what I would like to", "start": 7083.04, "end": 7090.04}, {"text": "know is it possible that he can make to the right by low", "start": 7090.04, "end": 7096.48}, {"text": "fence and and the bottom of the fence that he CED the post that he create", "start": 7096.48, "end": 7104.239}, {"text": "concrete concrete them they are all you can see on my property it's ugly for my", "start": 7104.239, 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with down pipe they turn on us water when I move they report me to the", "start": 7214.4, "end": 7220.719}, {"text": "police and it went on and on so now like I said I'm asking just fence to put to", "start": 7220.719, "end": 7229.44}, {"text": "put on my property to make sure that it's a level and and to live freely on", "start": 7229.44, "end": 7236.44}, {"text": "the side that's all I have to ask", "start": 7236.44, "end": 7241.04}, {"text": "for okay thank you very much uh questions the thank you question Mr", "start": 7242.28, "end": 7249.28}, {"text": "chair councelor Thompson yes thank you three Mr chair uh ma'am thank you very much for being here today you currently", "start": 7249.28, "end": 7255.76}, {"text": "have a fence on your property do you current do do you have a", "start": 7255.76, "end": 7261.32}, {"text": "fence on your property now no I took it all so it's been removed and with my on my own knees because my husband passed", "start": 7261.32, "end": 7269.159}, {"text": "away and I'm trying to do as much as I can no I appreciate that thank you for that um but so you no longer have the", "start": 7269.159, "end": 7275.119}, {"text": "fence and I look at the I guess picture in on page uh s of 11 shows two fence", "start": 7275.119, "end": 7282.4}, {"text": "your neighbor's fence and your fence but you've removed your fence correct I removed the fence because I had to move", "start": 7282.4, "end": 7288.84}, {"text": "forward to their Pro have a fence yes this part of a fence I'll explain more", "start": 7288.84, "end": 7294.239}, {"text": "when I talk to you okay fair enough then I'll maybe just wait till you come up sir thank you Mr chair thank you all", "start": 7294.239, "end": 7299.96}, {"text": "right thank you councelor Thompson uh other councilors have questions of the", "start": 7299.96, "end": 7306.28}, {"text": "depent seeing none thank you very much uh the next depu Adam Wheats thank", "start": 7306.28, "end": 7314.56}, {"text": "you 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house was ever since", "start": 7422.159, "end": 7427.679}, {"text": "that um fence was put up it's been an eyesore it's taken away value from the", "start": 7427.679, "end": 7434.44}, {"text": "home the front yard does not look anywhere near how it was and like I said they've had issues like we've got to a", "start": 7434.44, "end": 7441.84}, {"text": "point I don't know if I want to show you maybe I should show you they had issues", "start": 7441.84, "end": 7447.159}, {"text": "they kept verbally abusing her now that my father passed away her husband passed away they're picking on her more they", "start": 7447.159, "end": 7452.52}, {"text": "were warned by the police lay off we had a legal letter", "start": 7452.52, "end": 7459.199}, {"text": "written up warning them to back", "start": 7459.199, "end": 7463.719}, {"text": "off oh sorry okay know what else can I cannot", "start": 7464.679, "end": 7470.118}, {"text": "show there was also like that's when the police came in there was a 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they should took it down there was debris constantly thrown in there water was constantly", "start": 7517.84, "end": 7523.76}, {"text": "eroding the fence okay so there is a fence going to the back half of the of the property not to the front not to the", "start": 7523.76, "end": 7531.199}, {"text": "front the front ones uh the front area where I saw on page seven of 11 that Fen", "start": 7531.199, "end": 7539.079}, {"text": "has been removed and it deteriorated very quickly of stuff being thrown on it", "start": 7539.079, "end": 7544.32}, {"text": "okay super thank you very much sir that's the question I had Mr chair okay", "start": 7544.32, "end": 7551.559}, {"text": "thank you councelor Thompson other questions of the deput councelor", "start": 7552.159, "end": 7557.36}, {"text": "Myers sorry uh just for clarification I'm a bit confused here are you asking", "start": 7557.36, "end": 7562.8}, {"text": "for the fence to be the height of the fence to be continued to the front 6", 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"caching back into his property and therefore he would go through his shed so he stopped She had a lot on her mind", "start": 7604.88, "end": 7610.199}, {"text": "for last year because of her of her husband passing away but that is supposed to be taken care of so she just", "start": 7610.199, "end": 7617.159}, {"text": "wants it level and then the front one of the panels space them out sorry space", "start": 7617.159, "end": 7622.639}, {"text": "them out or drop it so she can see people coming up she can't see them until they're right in front of their", "start": 7622.639, "end": 7628.4}, {"text": "property and the and just so I understand the ground is at grade level the once you get to the top of the", "start": 7628.4, "end": 7634.52}, {"text": "driveway it's level all the way to the back okay thank you there's no that's what I'm saying there's no reason to be staggered up like that got it thank", "start": 7634.52, "end": 7641.52}, {"text": "thank you no more questions okay all right thank you councelor Myers", "start": 7641.52, "end": 7646.84}, {"text": "other questions of staff on this item there's additional deput I", "start": 7646.84, "end": 7652.44}, {"text": "think yeah sorry I only have two listed on the", "start": 7652.44, "end": 7657.679}, {"text": "sheet I have uh to the chair yes I emailed you um Frank Bowman is also", "start": 7657.679, "end": 7665.079}, {"text": "listed okay all right thank you sorry about that my apologies uh our next", "start": 7665.079, "end": 7670.88}, {"text": "depent", "start": 7670.88, "end": 7673.44}, {"text": "Bowman B sorry Mr bonen you have five minutes", "start": 7678.04, "end": 7684.199}, {"text": "whenever you're ready okay um I just want to show at first a picture uh this", "start": 7684.199, "end": 7691.159}, {"text": "is actually a picture I took and not them so whatever whatever Mr whites was just talking about he has nothing to", "start": 7691.159, "end": 7697.559}, {"text": "back it up with or anything and I have all to prove here if it needs to be seen I got the video with me which is a", "start": 7697.559, "end": 7703.119}, {"text": "3-minute video which can be shown if needed and uh I just going to", "start": 7703.119, "end": 7708.88}, {"text": "continue on uh saying what I have to say I don't", "start": 7708.88, "end": 7714.199}, {"text": "even want to respond to what they just said because it's a lot is a lie uh there are a few reasons why I'm asking", "start": 7714.199, "end": 7720.48}, {"text": "for offense exemption one would be for the safety of my family that being said there have been two physical assaults on", "start": 7720.48, "end": 7726.719}, {"text": "my wife by the neighbors the reent one was November 2022 there is is a police report with", "start": 7726.719, "end": 7732.48}, {"text": "the case number which I can provide uh my wife got seriously injured", "start": 7732.48, "end": 7738.199}, {"text": "on that incident I just like to show", "start": 7738.199, "end": 7744.96}, {"text": "that this is the injury uh and that's not over yet either", "start": 7748.76, "end": 7754.48}, {"text": "yeah wow um and I have a surveillance camera video uh of everything Tob back up what", "start": 7754.48, "end": 7761.88}, {"text": "I'm saying also 50 plus surveillance videos being harassed by by neighbors and their friends second reason is", "start": 7761.88, "end": 7768.76}, {"text": "privacy since Mrs whites has a surveillance camera directly pointing in my kitchen", "start": 7768.76, "end": 7775.8}, {"text": "directly which would be oops this one here there is an arrow going to the", "start": 7785.28, "end": 7790.44}, {"text": "surveillance that it's going straight in my kitchen if we walk in our kitchen she can watch everything we do if I take", "start": 7790.44, "end": 7796.8}, {"text": "that fence the 20 cm it's too high right now toward specifications down she will", "start": 7796.8, "end": 7802.599}, {"text": "be see what we're eating on the kitchen table um Okay the third reason along the", "start": 7802.599, "end": 7809.32}, {"text": "same property line in question Mrs Wes built a fence 2 m 33 which she got", "start": 7809.32, "end": 7815.28}, {"text": "exemption for and she built that in front of her six foot fence so both fences belong to her neither one of them", "start": 7815.28, "end": 7820.719}, {"text": "was mine just to show that on another picture both those fences are hers she", "start": 7820.719, "end": 7827.559}, {"text": "left her old fence which was pretty well falling apart and I can show you that from the other side what it looks like", "start": 7827.559, "end": 7833.559}, {"text": "right now actually here the left side that's a fence everything is falling apart I don't want to look at that so", "start": 7833.559, "end": 7840.52}, {"text": "what I actually did is I built my fence in front of her Exempted fence but I build it still 10 cm less just to make", "start": 7840.52, "end": 7847.559}, {"text": "it look decent for me because that's my recreational area where I sit that's not Mrs White's recreational area", "start": 7847.559, "end": 7853.639}, {"text": "she just comes there to harass us that's all she's doing um but like I said", "start": 7853.639, "end": 7859.8}, {"text": "everything I got here I got a three-minute clip to back this up and actually show what's really going on", "start": 7859.8, "end": 7865.44}, {"text": "what the truth is so if you're interested to see that clip I got it on a USB stick and it can be", "start": 7865.44, "end": 7872}, {"text": "shown um and besides that too uh I only Built a fence to that little bit higher", "start": 7872, "end": 7878.76}, {"text": "height where she had the exemption and had fence and took it just recently down and then called the city and complained", "start": 7878.76, "end": 7884.719}, {"text": "I had to high of a fence but she still has partially about another 10 ft of fence which is way higher than than than", "start": 7884.719, "end": 7891.679}, {"text": "it's supposed to be and now she's complaining Min is to high so I don't know why she can have a higher one and I", "start": 7891.679, "end": 7898.079}, {"text": "can't have one to cover my area up to make it look presentable and decent um it's pretty well all I have to", "start": 7898.079, "end": 7905.639}, {"text": "say", "start": 7905.639, "end": 7908.639}, {"text": "all right thank you sir are there any questions of the", "start": 7912.8, "end": 7917.199}, {"text": "deput no question to the depent okay thank you sir appreciate your time this morning thank you uh", "start": 7921.119, "end": 7928.079}, {"text": "we're going to bring this back into committee uh questions of Staff deputy mayor mckelvie uh thank you", "start": 7928.079, "end": 7935.44}, {"text": "Mr chair uh so James can you walk me through there's some diagrams that you", "start": 7935.44, "end": 7941.639}, {"text": "have in your report so attachment three which is on page six that fence that's", "start": 7941.639, "end": 7947.88}, {"text": "in front of the other fence that's now removed is this an old", "start": 7947.88, "end": 7952.639}, {"text": "photo sorry you're", "start": 7955.36, "end": 7958.84}, {"text": "muted my apologies Deputy Mayor mby um I asked the question of Staff this work", "start": 7960.44, "end": 7966.84}, {"text": "week and they said the defense was stilled", "start": 7966.84, "end": 7971.48}, {"text": "so sorry so if I look in attachment three so the fence for both 20 and 22 is", "start": 7972.119, "end": 7980.079}, {"text": "still both up right I had that exact same question of Staff um this work week and I said", "start": 7980.079, "end": 7987.199}, {"text": "there's two fences in this photo are they both still there because I'm going to be asked that question on the floor", "start": 7987.199, "end": 7992.639}, {"text": "and they said that they're both still there okay and then there is a picture", "start": 7992.639, "end": 7997.679}, {"text": "though that is on page eight attachment 5 so where is that fence CU I don't see", "start": 7997.679, "end": 8004.119}, {"text": "the second fence instead of it but I thought that was the same picture or these two different sides of the house like what what are we looking at", "start": 8004.119, "end": 8011.199}, {"text": "there on page eight of attachment five yes because that doesn't have the second", "start": 8011.199, "end": 8018.28}, {"text": "fence so perhaps I'll explain a little bit further uh this report is authored", "start": 8018.28, "end": 8025.599}, {"text": "by Terry carasses Terry carasses um uh took the position in the", "start": 8025.599, "end": 8032}, {"text": "corporation last work week uh upon preparing for this and having to", "start": 8032, "end": 8037.28}, {"text": "represent um there's a couple of items in this um I respectfully request that", "start": 8037.28, "end": 8042.88}, {"text": "this matter be held down to next um um next month's", "start": 8042.88, "end": 8048.4}, {"text": "meeting um to afford me the opportunity to there's a to your point there's a", "start": 8048.4, "end": 8054.52}, {"text": "couple of matters in this report that I'd like to address for next okay can I okay I I will happily do", "start": 8054.52, "end": 8063.04}, {"text": "that because especially if staff are asking for it so um the other question then is if we look at", "start": 8063.04, "end": 8068.719}, {"text": "page so in addition to looking at if there's two fences will you also be able to look at the quality of the fence for", "start": 8068.719, "end": 8075.04}, {"text": "any safety issues and if it means Property Standards", "start": 8075.04, "end": 8080.719}, {"text": "yeah I will do that because because yeah I'm seeing in this you know i' I've heard different", "start": 8080.719, "end": 8086.92}, {"text": "things so one there's there's just straight up height as a height exemption but then in looking at the picture on", "start": 8086.92, "end": 8094}, {"text": "page five like I note there may be some some boards that are attached on the front there are different things going", "start": 8094, "end": 8099.96}, {"text": "on so if we could just get a better understanding of all the exemptions or how all of this relates to Property Standards in addition to the fence that", "start": 8099.96, "end": 8106.32}, {"text": "would be helpful okay I will do that okay thank you so on that basis then oh well we can", "start": 8106.32, "end": 8113.119}, {"text": "continue with questions and then I will move uh deferral um Cher", "start": 8113.119, "end": 8118.32}, {"text": "Angley okay thank you Deputy Mayor Melby uh other questions of staff on this", "start": 8118.32, "end": 8124.92}, {"text": "item Council Myers five minutes uh just a quick question um does the fact that", "start": 8125.76, "end": 8132.719}, {"text": "there's a camera play any role in the determination as to whether or not to", "start": 8132.719, "end": 8138.04}, {"text": "Grant the height exemption it's uh does not the municipal", "start": 8138.04, "end": 8144.48}, {"text": "code 447 defense bylaw does not speak to cameras it just merely speaks to the", "start": 8144.48, "end": 8149.52}, {"text": "height and maintenance of the okay thank", "start": 8149.52, "end": 8153.8}, {"text": "you thank you Council Myers other questions of staff on this", "start": 8156.44, "end": 8161.639}, {"text": "item seeing none we will move to speakers Deputy Mayor", "start": 8163.199, "end": 8168.28}, {"text": "Melby uh I'll move deferral to the next", "start": 8168.28, "end": 8172.84}, {"text": "meeting okay thank you Deputy Mayor Melby any questions of the Mover saying n way of a motion uh moveed", "start": 8174.92, "end": 8182.96}, {"text": "by Deputy Mayor Melby on this item to defer this until our next uh scarbro", "start": 8182.96, "end": 8188.04}, {"text": "community council meeting on I believe February 24th 2023 all in", "start": 8188.04, "end": 8195.479}, {"text": "favor and that item carries this item has been deferred until our next meeting of scarbo community", "start": 8195.599, "end": 8201}, {"text": "council our next", "start": 8201, "end": 8205.558}, {"text": "item sorry is SC 2. 27312 morish Road an application for", "start": 8207.8, "end": 8214.8}, {"text": "offense exemption in W 25 Scarboro Rouge Park we have three speakers listed the", "start": 8214.8, "end": 8222.08}, {"text": "first speaker is cartha Rach", "start": 8222.08, "end": 8226.88}, {"text": "chanthon good morning m ra R chanan you have 5 minutes to address the committee whenever you're", "start": 8238.8, "end": 8246.28}, {"text": "ready", "start": 8269.84, "end": 8272.84}, {"text": "e", "start": 8299.76, "end": 8302.76}, {"text": "e", "start": 8329.719, "end": 8332.719}, {"text": "e", "start": 8359.719, "end": 8362.719}, {"text": "e", "start": 8389.64, "end": 8392.64}, {"text": "e", "start": 8419.64, "end": 8422.64}, {"text": "e", "start": 8449.64, "end": 8452.64}, {"text": "e", "start": 8479.56, "end": 8482.56}, {"text": "e", "start": 8509.52, "end": 8512.52}, {"text": "e", "start": 8539.52, "end": 8542.52}, {"text": "e", "start": 8569.439, "end": 8572.439}, {"text": "e", "start": 8599.439, "end": 8602.439}, {"text": "e e", "start": 8629.439, "end": 8633.439}, {"text": "sorry any questions with the depent seeing none thank you very much", "start": 8667.479, "end": 8673.6}, {"text": "our next depent is uh Glenn", "start": 8673.6, "end": 8678.438}, {"text": "Sakira Mr Sakira you have five minutes to address the uh Community Council", "start": 8689.08, "end": 8694.12}, {"text": "whenever you're ready hi good morning Mr chair and uh counselers uh my name is", "start": 8694.12, "end": 8699.72}, {"text": "Glen seura and uh I am requesting an exemption to the Toronto City Municipal", "start": 8699.72, "end": 8705.399}, {"text": "Code 447 fence specifically section 447", "start": 8705.399, "end": 8711.08}, {"text": "1.2a subsection 5 just to provide a brief background the city of Toronto and", "start": 8711.08, "end": 8716.56}, {"text": "I have slide one just to provide us a have slides there I'm I'm hoping you can see them just to provide a brief", "start": 8716.56, "end": 8723.52}, {"text": "background the city of Toronto has a quite robust reuse and recycle campaign", "start": 8723.52, "end": 8728.6}, {"text": "as the counselor is aware the city manager uh the city manages close to 900", "start": 8728.6, "end": 8735.04}, {"text": "tons of waste that takes up landfall space we are a scarce resource to avoid", "start": 8735.04, "end": 8742.319}, {"text": "uncertainty using up this previous press result I beg your pardon sir um would AV", "start": 8742.319, "end": 8748.64}, {"text": "please um turn on the", "start": 8748.64, "end": 8752.239}, {"text": "overhead oh but I had this okaying okay I'll just start it again", "start": 8765.56, "end": 8772.88}, {"text": "just to provide a beef bra on the city of Toronto has quite a robust reuse and recycled", "start": 8772.88, "end": 8778.2}, {"text": "campaign uh as the council is aware the city manages close to 900 tons of waste", "start": 8778.2, "end": 8783.8}, {"text": "that takes up landfill space we which is a scarce resource to avoid uncertainty", "start": 8783.8, "end": 8789.88}, {"text": "using up this precious resource the city of Toronto actively encourages its residents to subscribe to its waste", "start": 8789.88, "end": 8796.64}, {"text": "reduction campaign the picture shown here describes how the city of Toronto wishes to accomplish the goals", "start": 8796.64, "end": 8803.439}, {"text": "highlights and recover the resources which includes repurposing resources", "start": 8803.439, "end": 8808.76}, {"text": "next slide let's look", "start": 8808.76, "end": 8812.56}, {"text": "at let's look at section 447 1.2a Clause 5 specifically States no", "start": 8815.76, "end": 8823.04}, {"text": "person shall erect own or maintain or cause a permit the erection or maintain", "start": 8823.04, "end": 8829}, {"text": "of any fences that uses materials not usually intended for use in permanent fencing unless specifically permitted by", "start": 8829, "end": 8836.8}, {"text": "the chapter or any other law additionally the bylaw officer highlighted kids as the material which", "start": 8836.8, "end": 8844.359}, {"text": "violates this bylaw now look at the difference next slide I'm just going to one", "start": 8844.359, "end": 8852.6}, {"text": "second now look at the uh now look let's look at uh now let's look at the", "start": 8855.16, "end": 8860.24}, {"text": "difference between skids and pallets and why our fence would not qualify as a skid fence Marine website has eight", "start": 8860.24, "end": 8868.92}, {"text": "definitions of skids none of which was specifically by the officer assuming", "start": 8868.92, "end": 8874}, {"text": "they meant a low platform mounted on which material it is set for handling", "start": 8874, "end": 8879.12}, {"text": "and moving then the picture on the left can be identified as a skit the picture on the right however is a pallet notice", "start": 8879.12, "end": 8886.68}, {"text": "that the skits only have top and bottom bols whereas pallets have top and bottom", "start": 8886.68, "end": 8892.8}, {"text": "bolts also note that both are made of wood one second sorry right here here", "start": 8892.8, "end": 8902.64}, {"text": "are two pictures of the same fence here are two pictures of the same fence on the front yard of my property notice the", "start": 8902.64, "end": 8909.6}, {"text": "fence that was erected is made of pallets and not skits as identified by the bylaw officer and is made of wood", "start": 8909.6, "end": 8917.439}, {"text": "the left picture identifies the top and bottom boods which are the identifying features of a pallet now let's address", "start": 8917.439, "end": 8924.68}, {"text": "the first claim that the skid or in my case palettes are not", "start": 8924.68, "end": 8929.72}, {"text": "normal fencing materials a quick Google search can show that there are many pallet fences designs therefore other", "start": 8929.72, "end": 8936.24}, {"text": "homeowners can and designers have normalized use in pallets", "start": 8936.24, "end": 8942.399}, {"text": "fencing um it might be a little small but right there so those are designs", "start": 8942.399, "end": 8948.56}, {"text": "from designers in conclusion I would have expected that the use of wooden skits or", "start": 8948.56, "end": 8953.92}, {"text": "palet depending on the consule definition as something to be commended", "start": 8953.92, "end": 8959.2}, {"text": "and not penalized given the ingenious repurposing of this wood material and creating a new Vibe and environment", "start": 8959.2, "end": 8966.359}, {"text": "friendly use for it a fence is not only complies with the bylaw but it's made up", "start": 8966.359, "end": 8972.52}, {"text": "of material normally used in fence but it also complies with the city's own environment efforts including its", "start": 8972.52, "end": 8978.8}, {"text": "Recycling and green program we believe we have adequately demonstrated that a fence erected at 312 morish road is", "start": 8978.8, "end": 8985.2}, {"text": "fully in compliance with the bylaw and a further and further repositioning of the wood material in Embraces the city's", "start": 8985.2, "end": 8991}, {"text": "goal of inspiring is friendly therefore we respectfully request that Council to", "start": 8991, "end": 8996.319}, {"text": "provide us with the exemption for the bylaw thank you very much", "start": 8996.319, "end": 9001.08}, {"text": "councilors uh thank you very much are there any questions of the", "start": 9002.399, "end": 9007.398}, {"text": "deput seeing none our next uh depent", "start": 9012.52, "end": 9018.24}, {"text": "sorry our last speaker registered for this item is Julie", "start": 9018.24, "end": 9024.479}, {"text": "blaski that's okay that's okay hi good morning thank you for your time I'll be very brief I think it's just more of um", "start": 9026.399, "end": 9032.319}, {"text": "was here in case um the councelor down col has had any questions that I could assist in clarifying but really what", "start": 9032.319, "end": 9038.64}, {"text": "this boils down to as you've heard um the neighbors um I guess her pleadings in the situation I don't believe that", "start": 9038.64, "end": 9045.439}, {"text": "they have any real substantial grounds um thank you for um adequately", "start": 9045.439, "end": 9050.76}, {"text": "I guess maintaining the focus of what is what we are here for today is really focusing on the fence um Mr squer from", "start": 9050.76, "end": 9057.6}, {"text": "the other side of the of the aisle is looking to have an exemption provided by", "start": 9057.6, "end": 9062.92}, {"text": "the counselors today to install what really boils down to a wooden fence um and it's being um installed by", "start": 9062.92, "end": 9070.24}, {"text": "repurposing uh existing types of materials so we've they were very throrough in reviewing the bylaw um", "start": 9070.24, "end": 9076.08}, {"text": "ensuring that they were compliant um unfortunately it seems that some of this uh situation including the complaint", "start": 9076.08, "end": 9082.479}, {"text": "triggering the inspector visiting the premises is as you heard from um from Kathy I'm sorry I don't want to", "start": 9082.479, "end": 9088.359}, {"text": "mispronounce her last name um really stemming from other ancillary issues as", "start": 9088.359, "end": 9093.439}, {"text": "opposed to really having um concerns about the fense so I'd like to leave those issues aside and leave the", "start": 9093.439, "end": 9098.84}, {"text": "neighbors to dis to U resolve those issues separately in other forms and just focus on today's situation which is", "start": 9098.84, "end": 9105.2}, {"text": "just um would neighbors be um f I'm mutually Factory response to putting in", "start": 9105.2, "end": 9112.2}, {"text": "place a wooden fence that's really what it boils down to the skids are being used or the pallets are really being", "start": 9112.2, "end": 9117.6}, {"text": "used as wooden frames um the family has added additional paneling additional wood planks to the frames you've seen to", "start": 9117.6, "end": 9124.84}, {"text": "actually make even more sturdier fence um and again going back to the issue of just re reusing Recycling and finding an", "start": 9124.84, "end": 9131.359}, {"text": "green option so unless you have any questions I am done thank you for your time yes Mr Myers uh is it for myself or", "start": 9131.359, "end": 9140.68}, {"text": "is it for Mr squa uh just point", "start": 9140.68, "end": 9146.52}, {"text": "Missy were um asking questions of you yes uh through the chair I think you", "start": 9146.52, "end": 9152.279}, {"text": "have the floor that's through the chair uh just a quick question ma'am what's", "start": 9152.279, "end": 9157.68}, {"text": "your role in this issue oh we are um family friends okay so you don't live in", "start": 9157.68, "end": 9163.279}, {"text": "the house no no no I live nearby and so I've I have private assistance with the application and some of the", "start": 9163.279, "end": 9169.04}, {"text": "documentation and also also am aware of some of the other ancillary um possibly legal actions that are also being taken", "start": 9169.04, "end": 9175.24}, {"text": "on the other matters so have information knowledge that I could you know discuss and share with you here thank you no", "start": 9175.24, "end": 9181.52}, {"text": "more questions thank you Council Myers other questions of the", "start": 9181.52, "end": 9187.72}, {"text": "depent seeing none uh we'll bring this under committee questions of stop thank", "start": 9189.24, "end": 9194.6}, {"text": "you Deputy Mayor Melby thank you James can you just let me know um are the", "start": 9194.6, "end": 9199.84}, {"text": "these permitted materials under the current bylaw uh no they are not and", "start": 9199.84, "end": 9207.96}, {"text": "why so Municipal Code 447 fences speaks to U no person shall erect maintain", "start": 9207.96, "end": 9216.64}, {"text": "cause or permit to erect or maintain any fence that doesn't you use materials not", "start": 9216.64, "end": 9221.68}, {"text": "intended for the use of permanent permanent fencing unless spe", "start": 9221.68, "end": 9227.64}, {"text": "specifically permitted by this chapter so I do have a first person knowledge of this situation I'll um maybe just", "start": 9227.64, "end": 9235.16}, {"text": "quickly sum it up honor vote August 2022 Municipal licensing standards received", "start": 9235.16, "end": 9241.64}, {"text": "information about defense um that's before you today the officer attended", "start": 9241.64, "end": 9246.8}, {"text": "the location confirmed that skids were being used along with other various", "start": 9246.8, "end": 9252.319}, {"text": "materials uh at the property um the officer came to me at the conclusion of", "start": 9252.319, "end": 9258.08}, {"text": "the shift showed me pictures and I said 100% we have to issue a notice of violation because skids by all intents", "start": 9258.08, "end": 9265.319}, {"text": "and purposes are used for storing securing and transporting material", "start": 9265.319, "end": 9271.96}, {"text": "they're not fence material what is a fence material rot iron Uh Wood", "start": 9271.96, "end": 9278.72}, {"text": "composite wood glass panels Etc kids are not permitted that led to the notice of", "start": 9278.72, "end": 9285.08}, {"text": "violation being issued that led to a series of phone calls with the property owner I Enlighten the property owner", "start": 9285.08, "end": 9291.6}, {"text": "consistent with my dialogue here today subsequently they applied for okay and then the materials that we", "start": 9291.6, "end": 9298.479}, {"text": "select or are permitted is that also because they have fire safety proven safety proven strength like is that how", "start": 9298.479, "end": 9305.16}, {"text": "those materials are on the list and do we know that about skids like will it always meet all those same criteria for", "start": 9305.16, "end": 9311.359}, {"text": "safety fire safety Etc strength um well to answer your question", "start": 9311.359, "end": 9318.2}, {"text": "um fenor material is pressure wood or materials that are going to withstand the weather skids", "start": 9318.2, "end": 9325.04}, {"text": "could be anything from particle board to um various", "start": 9325.04, "end": 9330.279}, {"text": "materials uh up to including plastic um sheep metal um I did see in", "start": 9330.279, "end": 9336.52}, {"text": "the photos that there were some chairs lined up for fencing all these things reinforced council's bylaws 1447 and 629", "start": 9336.52, "end": 9345.279}, {"text": "Property Standards uh to ensure a minimum standard for the so um skids are not considered fening", "start": 9345.279, "end": 9354.12}, {"text": "material they don't comply okay thank you thank you thank you Deputy May Melby", "start": 9354.12, "end": 9362}, {"text": "other questions of staff on this item councilor Myers thank you chair uh through the", "start": 9362, "end": 9367.08}, {"text": "chair um can you confirm in your inspection if there were Nails protruding from the", "start": 9367.08, "end": 9374.08}, {"text": "skids um in speaking with the officer skids are not finished product or not", "start": 9375.88, "end": 9380.96}, {"text": "designed for um again this this purpose and uh skids were noted", "start": 9380.96, "end": 9388.08}, {"text": "um um again it's it's not fency Material uh and one more question given", "start": 9388.08, "end": 9395.8}, {"text": "the uh intensification of storms um that we've experienced with the you know the", "start": 9395.8, "end": 9401.72}, {"text": "change in climate do you think that 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{"text": "move option one refuse the Grant application uh refuse to Grant the application for an exemption permit um I", "start": 9457.6, "end": 9465.279}, {"text": "I do believe in reduced reuse recycle but there are safety standards that we need to meet and there are criteria for materials for", "start": 9465.279, "end": 9472.88}, {"text": "fencing uh that have been given considerable um consideration and", "start": 9472.88, "end": 9478.92}, {"text": "there's a reason why we have those rules I would like to say that um depants when", "start": 9478.92, "end": 9486.04}, {"text": "they come should speak to the subject matter that is before us and in this", "start": 9486.04, "end": 9491.16}, {"text": "case that was uh the defense itself and the fence exemption so I do think it's", "start": 9491.16, "end": 9497}, {"text": "important that we remind residents um that I know they may have challenges", "start": 9497, "end": 9503.439}, {"text": "with each other um but it is important that we 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"start": 9565.359, "end": 9571.6}, {"text": "request um okay what's your request Mr chair today is a sad day um it's sad for", "start": 9571.6, "end": 9580.52}, {"text": "a number of reasons but most importantly it's sad that this will be the last um", "start": 9580.52, "end": 9586.279}, {"text": "meeting for Mr zuliani M Mr zuliani will be conducting his last community council", "start": 9586.279, "end": 9593}, {"text": "meeting as he is uh retiring and he is the director of", "start": 9593, "end": 9598.76}, {"text": "community uh planning in the East District scarbro all of us are quite uh aware of", "start": 9598.76, "end": 9605.439}, {"text": "his tremendous work and his leadership we are joined today by the uh Chief", "start": 9605.439, "end": 9610.96}, {"text": "planner for the city of Toronto Mr Greg linter along with Mr renrick Ashby um", "start": 9610.96, "end": 9618.64}, {"text": "manager of Community planning here in scarbo District I just wanted to take", "start": 9618.64, "end": 9623.76}, {"text": "this time to wish Mr zulani um well in his", "start": 9623.76, "end": 9631.8}, {"text": "um uh next chapter of his life and uh we", "start": 9631.8, "end": 9637.68}, {"text": "will greatly missed his expertise his um ability to make complex", "start": 9637.68, "end": 9647.08}, {"text": "matters simple as part of the planning process his ability to bring people", "start": 9647.08, "end": 9653.8}, {"text": "together to arrive at consensus and to arrive at", "start": 9653.8, "end": 9658.88}, {"text": "a conclusion that works for everyone I just wanted to take uh This Moment again", "start": 9658.88, "end": 9664.72}, {"text": "to thank him for his um 34 years of contribution to the city and its", "start": 9664.72, "end": 9671.56}, {"text": "planning and its development I note that uh when he looks at the uh City from his", "start": 9671.56, "end": 9679.8}, {"text": "vantage point he will be able to be very proud of his um Direction uh decisions", "start": 9679.8, "end": 9689.319}, {"text": "that have been made to make the city a better place in its developmental practices and specifically in the", "start": 9689.319, "end": 9696.479}, {"text": "Scarboro area um Mr zuliani will be uh", "start": 9696.479, "end": 9701.96}, {"text": "missed and I just wanted to take this time to wish him well he and his family", "start": 9701.96, "end": 9708.439}, {"text": "and as he reti car is a very young man uh that he has uh lots of time and", "start": 9708.439, "end": 9713.72}, {"text": "energy to make great contribution and as I said this is but a chapter in the a", "start": 9713.72, "end": 9719.84}, {"text": "page in the chapter of his uh professional um uh life and so just", "start": 9719.84, "end": 9725.439}, {"text": "wanted to take that time to thank Mr zuliani and I don't know whether or not Mr linter wishes to say anything in Mr", "start": 9725.439, "end": 9731.64}, {"text": "Ashby uh but I have to leave shortly Mr chair and this is why I wanted just to take a moment to um make the comment um", "start": 9731.64, "end": 9739.479}, {"text": "through you to Mr Aulani and to wish him all the", "start": 9739.479, "end": 9746.12}, {"text": "best Mr lter do you want to say something you uh uh councelor Thompson", "start": 9747, "end": 9753.96}, {"text": "and uh chair I just uh I mean we'll certainly um take Paul out for a few uh", "start": 9753.96, "end": 9760.96}, {"text": "drinks maybe uh or drink of the of of his choice um but um I just you know", "start": 9760.96, "end": 9768.439}, {"text": "publicly here to to thank as well uh um the community council for working so", "start": 9768.439, "end": 9774.68}, {"text": "closely with staff uh over the years we all know what um a challenge uh", "start": 9774.68, "end": 9780.64}, {"text": "Community planning is in a growing changing City and um I think our", "start": 9780.64, "end": 9785.76}, {"text": "partnership and and the work that Paul has been able to do with the team over the years is pretty uh instrumental in", "start": 9785.76, "end": 9792.72}, {"text": "uh solving and addressing some of those challenges um there's always something new and Paul has certainly risen to the", "start": 9792.72, "end": 9799.8}, {"text": "occasion he's a a strong team player um really provides mentorship and a lot of", "start": 9799.8, "end": 9805.76}, {"text": "coaching to his his staff um he is kind of a planner's planner he he kind of gets it which is really important at the", "start": 9805.76, "end": 9812.56}, {"text": "end of the day knowing um knowing uh the intricacies of the business that we're in um always been interested in looking", "start": 9812.56, "end": 9820.399}, {"text": "for ways to do things better uh Paul and I worked many years ago on a continuous Improvement project um it seems like", "start": 9820.399, "end": 9827.2}, {"text": "continuous Improvement is continuous but uh certainly uh Paul has that in his DNA", "start": 9827.2, "end": 9833.479}, {"text": "uh he's also very people focused and and cares a lot about the staff and uh and uh what's going on in the office and", "start": 9833.479, "end": 9839.92}, {"text": "what's going on in people's lives which is so important um uh today so on behalf", "start": 9839.92, "end": 9845.08}, {"text": "of U City Planning certainly I wish him all the best um uh I I don't know what", "start": 9845.08, "end": 9851.319}, {"text": "he has going on next um but um I do wish him all the best and and good health and", "start": 9851.319, "end": 9857.12}, {"text": "and U and and thank him very much for his public", "start": 9857.12, "end": 9861.761}, {"text": "[Applause] service did you want to say anything and", "start": 9863.21, "end": 9870.319}, {"text": "and I here I think the chair wanted to say", "start": 9870.319, "end": 9875.399}, {"text": "something yeah I just wanted to add uh Paul um I've known you for a long time", "start": 9875.399, "end": 9880.56}, {"text": "I've been a counselor for a while I can't thank you enough um for all of your hard work and dedication on both uh", "start": 9880.56, "end": 9887.359}, {"text": "behalf of the scaros community council members um but also the residents here", "start": 9887.359, "end": 9892.76}, {"text": "in Scarboro um I know it's all of your services been invaluable uh can't thank", "start": 9892.76, "end": 9898.319}, {"text": "you enough and I hope you have a long happy healthy", "start": 9898.319, "end": 9902.68}, {"text": "retirement you poll through the chair U just a few quick words um and thank you", "start": 9905.08, "end": 9911.96}, {"text": "very much for this I I just want to say I've been a very proud Toronto public service worker for 34 years uh I've", "start": 9911.96, "end": 9919.359}, {"text": "really been honored to serve Council this community council for the last 15", "start": 9919.359, "end": 9924.84}, {"text": "years and the residents of Toronto for those 34 years um I'm I'm glad and I", "start": 9924.84, "end": 9931.399}, {"text": "love our city and I'm glad to see it you know grow the way it has and it will continue to be a great City and lastly I", "start": 9931.399, "end": 9938.84}, {"text": "want to let you know that you know you're in good hands here we've got a great team uh with Greg and our local", "start": 9938.84, "end": 9945.8}, {"text": "managers renrick and Christian and you know we're growing our team here and um", "start": 9945.8, "end": 9951.72}, {"text": "um you're in good hands for the next 20 years as well so thank you very", "start": 9951.72, "end": 9957.88}, {"text": "much all right thank you very much Paul our we will get back to the agenda um so", "start": 9962.479, "end": 9971.319}, {"text": "members just at this point so we have four items left um we have 15 minutes until our", "start": 9971.319, "end": 9977.64}, {"text": "lunch break I don't know if you want to to work through the lunch break or come back we'll try and get through as much as we can before the lunch break and", 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thank you Mr chairman and uh", "start": 10041.319, "end": 10050.68}, {"text": "counselors hello I'd like to just start off uh this particular tree is a gko", "start": 10067.64, "end": 10074.68}, {"text": "um it's a female which drops off a lot of different berries apparently they", "start": 10074.68, "end": 10081.16}, {"text": "don't uh plant these trees anymore it's between myself and my", "start": 10081.16, "end": 10088}, {"text": "neighbor he couldn't make it today he's an older gentleman not feeling too", "start": 10088, "end": 10093.399}, {"text": "well he sent a letter to the council uh regarding the tree that he wanted to get", "start": 10093.399, "end": 10099.6}, {"text": "rid of it as well because of the nuisance to it those are the berries that are up on", "start": 10099.6, "end": 10107.16}, {"text": "the on the screen there um they drop every year two months out of the out of", "start": 10107.16, "end": 10113.52}, {"text": "the Year November and December my 92-year-old mother came over one time", "start": 10113.52, "end": 10120.439}, {"text": "and uh she slipped and broke her hip in three places she refuses to um come back", "start": 10120.439, "end": 10127.04}, {"text": "to the house because of it deals with uh Alzheimer's now as well that that's", "start": 10127.04, "end": 10132.2}, {"text": "probably part of the uh problem so there's a financial burden", "start": 10132.2, "end": 10138.2}, {"text": "with that um two months in the hospital 8 months in", "start": 10138.2, "end": 10145.239}, {"text": "rehab these uh berries are uh smell like vomit for two months you have to put up", "start": 10145.6, "end": 10152.76}, {"text": "with that um my description of vomit is uh", "start": 10152.76, "end": 10159.319}, {"text": "clarified through the American Comer society as you can see where it they", "start": 10159.319, "end": 10164.52}, {"text": "actually say it smells like vomit so there's the physical burden", "start": 10164.52, "end": 10171.2}, {"text": "non-stop dropping berries all day for the two months this is a photo 4 hours after 8:00 a.m. where I", "start": 10171.2, "end": 10179.76}, {"text": "have to uh break these things up along with my neighbor who's 80 plus years", "start": 10179.76, "end": 10186.96}, {"text": "old the physical birth bur with it as well it's very heavy and normally we get", "start": 10186.96, "end": 10192.479}, {"text": "through three of these 85 L containers to pick them", "start": 10192.479, "end": 10197.8}, {"text": "up and because they're so heavy the city workers won't take them they won't uh put them into the machines into the dump", "start": 10197.8, "end": 10204.72}, {"text": "trucks so I have to bring them back to the the transfer", "start": 10204.72, "end": 10210.6}, {"text": "station uh Mr Travers in his report says that it's a small amount of Maintenance", "start": 10210.68, "end": 10215.92}, {"text": "necessary for these trees that drop Twigs leaves and berries I big to Def uh", "start": 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{"text": "reputable uh Restoration company so in conclusion I trust the committee", "start": 10274.76, "end": 10281.479}, {"text": "will use the com their Common Sense after all this information has been provided and determined that they will", "start": 10281.479, "end": 10287.56}, {"text": "allow this nuisance tree to be removed thank", "start": 10287.56, "end": 10292.479}, {"text": "you Mr chair I have a question y go ahead councelor Crawford", "start": 10293.64, "end": 10299.04}, {"text": "um so you mentioned uh now is it on your property Source or is it on your neighbor's property it's a border tree a", "start": 10299.04, "end": 10304.399}, {"text": "b which is on the U the edge of my property and my neighbor how long have", "start": 10304.399, "end": 10309.72}, {"text": "you um lived there or how long how long is the looks like I I don't didn't see in the report how old the tree is but", "start": 10309.72, "end": 10315}, {"text": "how long have you lived there and I've lived there six years and my neighbors lived there for 25 okay so you don't the", "start": 10315, "end": 10322.16}, {"text": "the tree is definitely older than 25 years by the sounds of it I believe so yeah okay um okay thank", "start": 10322.16, "end": 10330.96}, {"text": "you thank you councelor Crawford other questions of the deput on this item", "start": 10332.359, "end": 10339.318}, {"text": "see none thank you much very much Mr power we're going to bring it back in the committee uh questions of staff on", "start": 10339.56, "end": 10345.359}, {"text": "this item yeah it's councel Crawford yeah councelor Crawford go ahead um just with regard to um trees uh", "start": 10345.359, "end": 10353.6}, {"text": "again yeah private trees you have City trees do we plant ginkos is this a tree that would be uh of an option when we're", "start": 10353.6, "end": 10359.76}, {"text": "planting where people are requesting trees on the properties I'm just the deputy had commented that they", "start": 10359.76, "end": 10366.239}, {"text": "don't plant these anywhere so I just want to ask do we plant or have options to plant gko", "start": 10366.239, "end": 10373.92}, {"text": "trees the chair uh Jenice Allen uh we do plant genos but we plant uh", "start": 10374.68, "end": 10382}, {"text": "male not the female okay and and what would that reason why would why would we just plant the male not the female", "start": 10382, "end": 10389.76}, {"text": "because they don't produce the fruit okay so you you we don't we don't plant", "start": 10389.76, "end": 10395}, {"text": "females because they don't they produce fruit that could be you know a nuisance I", "start": 10395, "end": 10402.8}, {"text": "guess correct okay thank", "start": 10402.8, "end": 10407.239}, {"text": "you thank you Council Crawford other questions councelor", "start": 10408.08, "end": 10413.96}, {"text": "mantis Mr chair uh to Janice do Dingle trees have an evasive uh", "start": 10415.04, "end": 10424.92}, {"text": "system who the chair they're not any more invasive than any other tree", "start": 10426.279, "end": 10433.239}, {"text": "okay thank you so much thank you other questioners of", "start": 10433.239, "end": 10440.16}, {"text": "staff on this item uh just uh just want to clarify", "start": 10440.16, "end": 10445.88}, {"text": "that should Community Council Grant this request uh you would require five", "start": 10445.88, "end": 10451.68}, {"text": "replacement trees through the chair that's correct", "start": 10451.68, "end": 10457.279}, {"text": "okay thank you thank you dep mayor Melby other questions of staff on this", "start": 10457.279, "end": 10464.399}, {"text": "item seeing none oh sorry councilor Myers uh through the chair uh just for", "start": 10464.399, "end": 10470.6}, {"text": "my clarification if uh does staff conclude that the tree is causing damage to the", "start": 10470.6, "end": 10477.761}, {"text": "house through the chair that was not part of any part of the application that we", "start": 10477.88, "end": 10484.359}, {"text": "received okay um through the chair would staff's", "start": 10484.359, "end": 10491.239}, {"text": "recommendation um change if it was concluded that the", "start": 10491.239, "end": 10496.56}, {"text": "tree was causing physical damage to the house", "start": 10496.56, "end": 10502.04}, {"text": "sorry hello hi Sor we didn't catch that through the", "start": 10522.12, "end": 10527.68}, {"text": "chair no our our decision would not have changed in this", "start": 10527.68, "end": 10532.96}, {"text": "situation um because the roots don't cause the", "start": 10532.96, "end": 10538.319}, {"text": "damage even to the driveway", "start": 10538.319, "end": 10545.04}, {"text": "uh yeah no even to the driveway because that can be fixed without removal of the", "start": 10545.359, "end": 10551.52}, {"text": "tree okay thank you no more questions thank you councelor", "start": 10551.52, "end": 10558.319}, {"text": "Meyer any other questions on", "start": 10558.319, "end": 10562.841}, {"text": "this thank you very much uh speakers on this item hi councel Crawford here", "start": 10563.92, "end": 10569.12}, {"text": "Crawford yeah thank you very much uh Mr chair I'd like to remove or move uh", "start": 10569.12, "end": 10574.68}, {"text": "number one scarber Community Council approve the request for permit remove one privately owned tree at 140 and 142", "start": 10574.68, "end": 10581.68}, {"text": "cor sled Road um first of all I recognize in historically when you're", "start": 10581.68, "end": 10587.08}, {"text": "looking at city council Community Council and our discussions with trees um I would assume probably 99% of trees", "start": 10587.08, "end": 10595.16}, {"text": "we we do not take down and we do not permit to take them down uh and it really comes down to the fact that if", "start": 10595.16, "end": 10601.2}, {"text": "it's a healthy tree uh with regard to the tree canopy we understand the importance of that and and and we", "start": 10601.2, "end": 10606.84}, {"text": "generally do not do that um this is a little bit different and I I'll be honest with with my colleagues I", "start": 10606.84, "end": 10612.76}, {"text": "was originally going to move to deny uh the permit to remve but when I spoke", "start": 10612.76, "end": 10618.12}, {"text": "with staff I asked about the the GLE tree and they actually don't um um have", "start": 10618.12, "end": 10623.359}, {"text": "male well they have male but not female trees because of the abundance of fruit", "start": 10623.359, "end": 10628.399}, {"text": "um and when I looked at the pictures and saw the the sort of Maintenance and the challenges that are occurring between", "start": 10628.399, "end": 10634.68}, {"text": "the two uh neighbors and elderly Neighbors at that um I do recognize those challenges and um part of the", "start": 10634.68, "end": 10642.399}, {"text": "motion is for them to provide five replacement trees uh which can be achieved in a combination of on-site", "start": 10642.399, "end": 10648.319}, {"text": "planting and cash andl so again these are always difficult decisions when it comes to before us and you always have", "start": 10648.319, "end": 10655.359}, {"text": "to look at the extenda circumstances because a lot of times we have these debates at city council after we've had", "start": 10655.359, "end": 10662.2}, {"text": "the conversation at Community Council and sometimes the context of those conversations uh are different and and I", "start": 10662.2, "end": 10669.56}, {"text": "think this is an example of one of those um examples of where I believe as much", "start": 10669.56, "end": 10675.56}, {"text": "as I am there to protect the canopy this is an exemption that I'm comfortable moving as I said I didn't come into this", "start": 10675.56, "end": 10682.12}, {"text": "meeting today with that assumption but based on the information I've heard this is what I'm comfortable doing so I'm hopefully we'll be able to get the", "start": 10682.12, "end": 10688.68}, {"text": "support of my uh colleagues on on this thank you thank you councelor Crawford other", "start": 10688.68, "end": 10696.04}, {"text": "speakers on this item", "start": 10696.04, "end": 10699.76}, {"text": "see none so we have the motion before us uh by councelor Crawford uh recommending", "start": 10702.8, "end": 10708}, {"text": "approval of removal of the tree all in", "start": 10708, "end": 10713.2}, {"text": "favor none opposed and that motion carries our uh next item is SC 2.10 33", "start": 10713.56, "end": 10722.96}, {"text": "callings Brook Boulevard application to remove a private tree uh there are no list speakers this is in W uh 22 does", "start": 10722.96, "end": 10732.399}, {"text": "anybody have any questions of Staff just just a quick point of order Mr chair can I just move a motion to extend to finish", "start": 10732.399, "end": 10737.92}, {"text": "the agenda clerk have asked me to do that I would appreciate that okay thank you all", "start": 10737.92, "end": 10743.84}, {"text": "in favor of uh extending to approve conclude the agenda thank you that's", "start": 10743.84, "end": 10751.04}, {"text": "approved that passes thank you Council Crawford I appreciate that uh on to item number 10 as I uh", "start": 10751.04, "end": 10759.239}, {"text": "mentioned uh questioners any questions of staff on this", "start": 10759.239, "end": 10765.358}, {"text": "item uh speakers on this item councelor Manis I'd like to move uh stations", "start": 10769.239, "end": 10777.72}, {"text": "chair sorry I had trouble hearing you I would like to move sta", "start": 10777.72, "end": 10784.92}, {"text": "recommendations okay all right so councelor mantis is uh", "start": 10785.359, "end": 10793.04}, {"text": "moving the staff recommendation deny deny the request for permit to remove one privately owned tree at 83 callings", "start": 10793.04, "end": 10800.479}, {"text": "Brook Boulevard any questions of the speaker seeing none all in", "start": 10800.479, "end": 10808.64}, {"text": "favor and that item passes we are now on to item number 14", "start": 10808.64, "end": 10818.88}, {"text": "u-t term prohibition dun Murray Boulevard between eaglestone Road and Gable Hurst Crescent in Ward", "start": 10818.88, "end": 10827.439}, {"text": "14 and sorry I'm just checking my speakers list uh we have one registered speaker", "start": 10827.439, "end": 10834.64}, {"text": "Mr marav", "start": 10834.64, "end": 10837.6}, {"text": "glaves can you hear me hello we can Mr glavich you have five minutes to speak", "start": 10842.16, "end": 10847.359}, {"text": "whenever you're ready it's it's it's War 22 not 14 just so you", "start": 10847.359, "end": 10852.68}, {"text": "know I live in the area I I I fully", "start": 10852.68, "end": 10857.92}, {"text": "support the the motion and take my my knees to one of", "start": 10857.92, "end": 10864.239}, {"text": "the schools there every day that the cars doing a U-turn can make a mess and", "start": 10864.239, "end": 10870.68}, {"text": "my knees almost got hit quite a few times imagine if any take off your councel heads and put your father's", "start": 10870.68, "end": 10876.68}, {"text": "mothers your parental head that's when you take your your kids to school when you took them in in the past this is a", "start": 10876.68, "end": 10882.88}, {"text": "safety factor I passed this area every day on my jog I'm in the area at the", "start": 10882.88, "end": 10889.16}, {"text": "moment speaking it's a safety factor for the community it was requested by the community please say yes to it thank", "start": 10889.16, "end": 10898.08}, {"text": "you all right thank you Mr glovich uh questions of the", "start": 10898.08, "end": 10903.319}, {"text": "document seeing none we're going to bring this into the committee questions of staff", "start": 10903.319, "end": 10909.84}, {"text": "seeing none uh speakers on this item councelor mantis it's your word go ahead just like", "start": 10910.359, "end": 10916.8}, {"text": "St okay thank you councelor mantis councelor mantis moving staff recommendations all in", "start": 10916.8, "end": 10923.88}, {"text": "favor none opposed and that item carries our uh next item is a SC 2.16 through", "start": 10923.88, "end": 10932.84}, {"text": "highways Belinda Square Sandy Hook square and Sylvester square and in Ward", "start": 10932.84, "end": 10938.439}, {"text": "22 we have one registered deput uh step", "start": 10938.439, "end": 10944.801}, {"text": "bakan uh to the chair it doesn't seem that um he's", "start": 10958.68, "end": 10963.84}, {"text": "online okay and not Pres is in the chamber so", "start": 10963.84, "end": 10969.76}, {"text": "um at this point are we'll bring it back into committee then are there any uh", "start": 10969.76, "end": 10975.08}, {"text": "questions of staff on this item seeing none speakers on this item", "start": 10975.08, "end": 10981.92}, {"text": "councelor mantis go ahead would like to move staff recommendations chair okay", "start": 10981.92, "end": 10988.319}, {"text": "thank you councelor mantis any other speakers on this item seeing none councelor mantis is", "start": 10988.319, "end": 10995.319}, {"text": "moving staff recommendations all in favor", "start": 10995.319, "end": 10999.76}, {"text": "none oppos that carries and I believe that was our last item Adam clerk is", "start": 11000.52, "end": 11006.92}, {"text": "there anything else we have to do just the bills item uh to the chair um could we just have one moment thanks very", "start": 11006.92, "end": 11014.12}, {"text": "much okay", "start": 11014.12, "end": 11018.12}, {"text": "should", "start": 11055.88, "end": 11058.88}, {"text": "uh to the chair we're ready now thank you okay thank", "start": 11067.8, "end": 11074.88}, {"text": "you can I have somebody move the bill would somebody like to volunteer to move the bills sure I'll do that uh the bills", "start": 11076.239, "end": 11084.84}, {"text": "104 to 107 so bills 104 to 7 prepared for January 27th 2023 meeting two of", "start": 11084.84, "end": 11091.2}, {"text": "scarbo community council be declared as a bylaw and pass subject to 22 6.9 of the city of Toronto act 2006 I'll move", "start": 11091.2, "end": 11099.12}, {"text": "that thank you councelor Crawford all in favor that", "start": 11099.12, "end": 11106.279}, {"text": "carries and I believe Madam clerk I can adjourn the meeting one", "start": 11107.04, "end": 11112.399}, {"text": "more oh sorry would you like would you like to", "start": 11112.399, "end": 11117.84}, {"text": "mantis oh sorry sure counc mantis confirmatory bills to confirm the", "start": 11117.84, "end": 11123.16}, {"text": "legislative proceedings of the scubber community council acting under delegated authority at meeting 2 on January 27", "start": 11123.16, "end": 11129.439}, {"text": "2023 be declared as bylaws and pass subject to section 26.9 of the city of", "start": 11129.439, "end": 11135.12}, {"text": "Toronto act 2006 all in", "start": 11135.12, "end": 11140.359}, {"text": "favor that carries none", "start": 11140.359, "end": 11144.279}, {"text": "opposed Madam clerk is there anything else no there isn't all right and I will move a motion", "start": 11146.64, "end": 11154.279}, {"text": "to adjourn the meeting all in favor that carries thank you very much everybody thank you to the clerk's department and", "start": 11154.279, "end": 11160.12}, {"text": "the IT department very much appreciated by everybody have a great day", "start": 11160.12, "end": 11166.88}, {"text": "see you soon upstairs that's great", "start": 11205.84, "end": 11212.04}]