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"end": 787.8}, {"text": "the toico York Community Council all those in favor any opposed that item", "start": 787.8, "end": 794.199}, {"text": "carries ey 811 uh Ellis Avenue traffic calming", "start": 794.199, "end": 799.76}, {"text": "councelor nunzi yes um I'll read the the motion because you don't have the", "start": 799.76, "end": 806.44}, {"text": "screen do you want me to read it or yeah I have it yeah so um subject to", "start": 806.44, "end": 813.04}, {"text": "favorable results of the poll I'm asking for a poll to be done to authorize the installation of traffic comings beps on", "start": 813.04, "end": 818.839}, {"text": "Elvis Avenue between Jane and Gibson and direct the city solicitor to prepare bylaw to alter section to the roadway to", "start": 818.839, "end": 825.519}, {"text": "install three speed humps on Ellis Avenue between Jane and Gibson Avenue for traffic caling purposes generally", "start": 825.519, "end": 832.04}, {"text": "are shown on attachment two dat is 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969.6, "end": 975}, {"text": "sorry for city council to authorize the installation of traffic control signals at the intersection of North Queen", "start": 975, "end": 980.16}, {"text": "Street and medulla Avenue for private access Deputy Mayor moley moves the staff recommendations all those in favor", "start": 980.16, "end": 986.399}, {"text": "any opposed that item carries ey 8.15 himer Avenue parking amendments", "start": 986.399, "end": 993.759}, {"text": "councelor croissan uh thank you Mr chair so on this item I'll be moving staff", "start": 993.759, "end": 998.839}, {"text": "recommendations and I have a a motion that I could read as well please do okay so that toor Community Council prohibit", "start": 998.839, "end": 1006.279}, {"text": "parking from 600 pm to 6: a.m. uh following day on the south side of hyr Avenue between JS court and uh a point", "start": 1006.279, "end": 1015.16}, {"text": "32 meters west of Wallace Crescent Council quanti moves the staff", "start": 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considered the project", "start": 1400.36, "end": 1407.48}, {"text": "and think that is is an Innovative design and good use of land I expect it", "start": 1407.48, "end": 1412.84}, {"text": "to be duplicated many times I just do not think it should be built on public", "start": 1412.84, "end": 1418.679}, {"text": "use land at the most accessed entry to Centennial Park it should not be built on the only", "start": 1418.679, "end": 1427.12}, {"text": "piece of public use land left for possible development on V forth it", "start": 1427.12, "end": 1433.24}, {"text": "should not be built on the entrance to Centennial Park where we are investing Millions of dollars for invest for the", "start": 1433.24, "end": 1441.559}, {"text": "enjoyment and use of many not those able to buy a million two-story condo it", "start": 1441.559, "end": 1449.12}, {"text": "should not be built as these five buildings will form five walls between", "start": 1449.12, "end": 1455.08}, {"text": "renforth and the Park on public use land that has been open and engaging for", "start": 1455.08, "end": 1462.679}, {"text": "years it should not be built as it will put at risk the access and safety for", "start": 1462.679, "end": 1469.2}, {"text": "those using the sports fields and many other activities in the park the", "start": 1469.2, "end": 1474.88}, {"text": "community works very hard to provide these and they will be detrimentally impacted by this", "start": 1474.88, "end": 1481.6}, {"text": "development the amount of development does not fit in the space in comparison", "start": 1481.6, "end": 1486.88}, {"text": "to the existing Community it should be built it should", "start": 1486.88, "end": 1492.64}, {"text": "not be built on the flight path as their rooftop gardens may be hazardous for", "start": 1492.64, "end": 1498.52}, {"text": "their health The Joy Community festivals and people coming to enjoy and use the", "start": 1498.52, "end": 1505.2}, {"text": "park needs to be nurtured and supported when the subway is finished maybe in", "start": 1505.2, "end": 1511.72}, {"text": "2031 who knows what this piece of public zoned land might be needed for I urge", "start": 1511.72, "end": 1519}, {"text": "you to read my letter sent to your offices in March of", "start": 1519, "end": 1524.12}, {"text": "2022 if you do not have it ask your planner Trista J James for a copy my", "start": 1524.12, "end": 1530.24}, {"text": "letter raised concerns of someone I I raised my letter raised", "start": 1530.24, "end": 1536.76}, {"text": "concerns of someone who visits this location daily I doubt she has ever", "start": 1536.76, "end": 1542.399}, {"text": "visited the site except to put up the sign have you visited this site have you", "start": 1542.399, "end": 1547.44}, {"text": "seen the impact of the entry into the park and how it will be affected by this", "start": 1547.44, "end": 1553.24}, {"text": "development with over 100,000 units being added to the atropical center", "start": 1553.24, "end": 1558.32}, {"text": "community and detailed an exciting and colorful maps by those who have no influence or control I failed to", "start": 1558.32, "end": 1565.72}, {"text": "understand how these 141 units on the entrance to the park would be", "start": 1565.72, "end": 1571.36}, {"text": "missed I expect it would be very different matter if the entrance to High", "start": 1571.36, "end": 1576.799}, {"text": "Park was having 141 tow houses developed", "start": 1576.799, "end": 1581.84}, {"text": "sentennial Park is a jewel for the community and should be protected and continued to be enriched", "start": 1581.84, "end": 1588.919}, {"text": "the mental health and well-being of many residents during the pandemic was preserved and protected by ready access", "start": 1588.919, "end": 1596.039}, {"text": "to the park do as you wish the residents will get used to the walls and the", "start": 1596.039, "end": 1601.6}, {"text": "exclusion but we could be doing better if we were city building not just", "start": 1601.6, "end": 1607.159}, {"text": "building I am looking for the Greater Community good for this property I'm", "start": 1607.159, "end": 1613.12}, {"text": "happy to answer any questions that you might have thank you M green", "start": 1613.12, "end": 1618.64}, {"text": "are there any questions for the speaker if you I I did have one I'll just check with my colleagues may I pass the chair", "start": 1618.64, "end": 1625.799}, {"text": "to councel Nada councelor H councelor holiday questions um thank you M green", "start": 1625.799, "end": 1631.6}, {"text": "for speaking to us um one thing you you mentioned a few times was uh you believe", "start": 1631.6, "end": 1636.84}, {"text": "that it was zoned as public use land could you elaborate for my colleagues because they they won't be as familiar", "start": 1636.84, "end": 1642.48}, {"text": "with the site as I am but um could you elaborate on what you mean by that that it's that it's it's for the community", "start": 1642.48, "end": 1649.679}, {"text": "good it's for a an organization it's not residential it's it's important that um", "start": 1649.679, "end": 1656.279}, {"text": "that land um be seen as a resource for the community and it could be who knows", "start": 1656.279, "end": 1662.6}, {"text": "maybe we need a chesar home for the disabled maybe we need a daycare center maybe we need a marshalling center if", "start": 1662.6, "end": 1669}, {"text": "the war continues who knows because that's the only piece of land that we", "start": 1669, "end": 1674.039}, {"text": "could very easily use as a city and when the subway comes down my understanding", "start": 1674.039, "end": 1680.08}, {"text": "is sky is going to be the limitus to what we might want to do bus service will be coming there I don't know what", "start": 1680.08, "end": 1687.08}, {"text": "kind of services we need but I expect that the city looks at that rather than", "start": 1687.08, "end": 1692.44}, {"text": "just filling it up with houses now when we may need it and I know rainy day", "start": 1692.44, "end": 1698.399}, {"text": "funds never work but the Masons have enjoyed that property for over 60 years", "start": 1698.399, "end": 1705.919}, {"text": "the public used that property as part of their park and now it's going to be", "start": 1705.919, "end": 1712.519}, {"text": "closed off people will be streaming past the Windows of those in the nursing home", "start": 1712.519, "end": 1718.559}, {"text": "behind and it just will change the flavor and the capacity of the community", "start": 1718.559, "end": 1724.279}, {"text": "to enjoy and access that's what I think okay I'm supposed to express my view and that's", "start": 1724.279, "end": 1730.039}, {"text": "what I've done thank you very much thank you appreciate it thank you councelor holiday", "start": 1730.039, "end": 1739.48}, {"text": "okay uh the next speaker is Caitlyn Allen bous", "start": 1742.88, "end": 1748.158}, {"text": "Fields uh Caitlyn welcome to the UICC um you have five minutes to speak please", "start": 1754.039, "end": 1759.2}, {"text": "begin when you're ready thank you uh good morning Mr chair", "start": 1759.2, "end": 1764.48}, {"text": "and members of community council my name is Caitlyn Allen of bowfield fields and bous Fields has acted as the planning", "start": 1764.48, "end": 1771}, {"text": "consultants for the owners of this property regarding their project um I am here with members of the ownership team", "start": 1771, "end": 1777.44}, {"text": "as well as other consultant representatives and we're happy to answer any questions that uh Community", "start": 1777.44, "end": 1783.36}, {"text": "Council may have so our client submitted a resoning application in July of", "start": 1783.36, "end": 1789.559}, {"text": "2021 and they've worked with the city to refine application details to arrive at", "start": 1789.559, "end": 1795.039}, {"text": "the final report today so as you've read and as has been mentioned the proposal", "start": 1795.039, "end": 1800.919}, {"text": "is for five residential buildings each will have a height of three stories and", "start": 1800.919, "end": 1807.88}, {"text": "in total there will be 140 stacked backtack dwelling", "start": 1807.88, "end": 1813.2}, {"text": "units um in my opinion The Proposal represents good planning for this", "start": 1813.2, "end": 1819.679}, {"text": "property it will introduce new ground related housing at a scale that's in", "start": 1819.679, "end": 1825.64}, {"text": "keeping with the official plans neighborhood height limitation of four stories um", "start": 1825.64, "end": 1831.279}, {"text": "being that it's uh only three stories in a location that's well served by", "start": 1831.279, "end": 1836.84}, {"text": "infrastructure and [Music] amenities the proposed new buildings uh", "start": 1836.84, "end": 1842.799}, {"text": "given the site size will be able to be appropriately separated from each other", "start": 1842.799, "end": 1848.32}, {"text": "um and will also be appropriately separated from adjacent property orj", "start": 1848.32, "end": 1853.64}, {"text": "buildings on adjacent properties which will allow for um appropriate considerations respecting light and", "start": 1853.64, "end": 1861.24}, {"text": "privacy and it will contribute to an attractive public realm on all three", "start": 1861.24, "end": 1867.08}, {"text": "frontages including um a landscape program that will have new coniferous", "start": 1867.08, "end": 1872.96}, {"text": "and deciduous trees planted um and I'm happy to speak in more details but those are just a few", "start": 1872.96, "end": 1879}, {"text": "High Lev comments uh one thing that I will note is that a site plan application has been", "start": 1879, "end": 1885.039}, {"text": "filed so through that application process the owners are aware that a construction management plan will need", "start": 1885.039, "end": 1891.399}, {"text": "to be developed in detail so that will provide the opportunity to consider um", "start": 1891.399, "end": 1897.519}, {"text": "some of the the details and process related to the construction of the buildings um so in summary I'm I'm we", "start": 1897.519, "end": 1907}, {"text": "wanted to thank all the work that staff have put into this application um and we support the", "start": 1907, "end": 1912.76}, {"text": "findings of the final report and respectfully request that Community Council adopt its recomend commendations", "start": 1912.76, "end": 1919.2}, {"text": "the owners are anxious to move to the next phase in order to start um moving", "start": 1919.2, "end": 1924.48}, {"text": "the new housing forward so we hope that we can work uh closely with City staff to bring forward the site specific bylaw", "start": 1924.48, "end": 1931.6}, {"text": "as early as possible ideally um at the next city council when this item will be", "start": 1931.6, "end": 1936.919}, {"text": "considered um and we also look forward to wrapping up the site plan application quickly too as there's just um but we", "start": 1936.919, "end": 1943.96}, {"text": "know there are still some refinements to to work through so so thank you for your", "start": 1943.96, "end": 1949.32}, {"text": "time and again myself and any of the representatives are available for questions thank you are there any", "start": 1949.32, "end": 1956.799}, {"text": "questions of the speaker councelor cantti thank you Mr chair S I just have", "start": 1956.799, "end": 1962.32}, {"text": "one clarification on I'm just reading the section on school boards and we're we're seeing this more and more on", "start": 1962.32, "end": 1968.72}, {"text": "various different developments where it says here that the TDSB staff has determined that there may be", "start": 1968.72, "end": 1974.159}, {"text": "insufficient capacity to accommodate students and and that a sign's going to go up to advise people", "start": 1974.159, "end": 1982.12}, {"text": "um as a as a developer what what steps do you take to ensure that families that", "start": 1982.12, "end": 1988.96}, {"text": "move into that Community um are going to be able to to send their their children to school in", "start": 1988.96, "end": 1995.639}, {"text": "close proximity to where they live because it's a obviously a real problem I I see this issue repeated even and", "start": 1995.639, "end": 2002.519}, {"text": "other developments across the city uh and it's probably not a question that we can deal with here it could be a bigger", "start": 2002.519, "end": 2010.08}, {"text": "issue with the school board that needs to be addressed but just your comments on that sure and through you Mr chair um", "start": 2010.08, "end": 2017.159}, {"text": "this you're right this is something that the tdsp as different areas grow are uh", "start": 2017.159, "end": 2024.36}, {"text": "trying to adjust in order to accommodate and it I think it is a a much bigger issue than just this application as part", "start": 2024.36, "end": 2032.639}, {"text": "of the submission our office did submit a community services and facility stud", "start": 2032.639, "end": 2038.08}, {"text": "which was reviewed by City staff which outlined the anticipated projected", "start": 2038.08, "end": 2043.559}, {"text": "number of student um schoolage children coming from this development um and you", "start": 2043.559, "end": 2050.158}, {"text": "know based on existing capacities and the projected numbers uh there wasn't", "start": 2050.159, "end": 2056.358}, {"text": "necessarily uh space for accommodation but I think that um working with the", "start": 2056.359, "end": 2061.56}, {"text": "TDSB we can uh there an ongoing conversation about", "start": 2061.56, "end": 2068.32}, {"text": "um what the capacities will be like by the time this development actually comes online and I think it's just important", "start": 2068.32, "end": 2075.28}, {"text": "at the outset to provide that communication to potential residents to know that there may be uh adjustments", "start": 2075.28, "end": 2084.118}, {"text": "that need to be made in terms of accommodation but it's something that City staff are aware of all right thank", "start": 2084.119, "end": 2091.118}, {"text": "you just curious that well so when will this development come", "start": 2091.119, "end": 2096.48}, {"text": "online approx any time frame assuming everything gets approved you get a green light what does it look like I'm", "start": 2096.48, "end": 2103.96}, {"text": "probably not the best person to ask in terms of construction but I and construction timing but I do know the", "start": 2103.96, "end": 2109.52}, {"text": "intent of the owners right now is to try to move forward as quickly as possible once all the approval is in place to", "start": 2109.52, "end": 2116.119}, {"text": "construction so um the intent is not to wait U to start", "start": 2116.119, "end": 2123.04}, {"text": "construction all right thank you thank you Mr counselor um any other", "start": 2123.04, "end": 2128.24}, {"text": "questions may I councelor nunzi so uh you heard the deput before you on her", "start": 2128.24, "end": 2135.359}, {"text": "concerns about the public space and private so can you just comment on that", "start": 2135.359, "end": 2141.16}, {"text": "sure so this is privately owned land um it is zoned institutional by the bylaw", "start": 2141.16, "end": 2147.24}, {"text": "which is um a zoning category that has been in place since uh the atopico bylaw", "start": 2147.24, "end": 2153.88}, {"text": "was established to essentially reflect the Masonic temple use um you know that is a nonprofit that was a nonprofit use", "start": 2153.88, "end": 2161.48}, {"text": "but still privately owned uh the institutional zoning does permit a range", "start": 2161.48, "end": 2166.68}, {"text": "of uses so just to clarify in terms of that it's um both private like private", "start": 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involved no and I don't think that yeah", "start": 2361.68, "end": 2369.24}, {"text": "there's there's no room between two private land owners for this city to become involved okay thank you that was", "start": 2369.24, "end": 2375.079}, {"text": "all my questions thank", "start": 2375.079, "end": 2379.119}, {"text": "you okay thank you any other", "start": 2381.359, "end": 2386.76}, {"text": "questions okay thank you for joining us today thanks um I have one more speaker uh that is uh Georgina engineer", "start": 2386.76, "end": 2396.119}, {"text": "welcome Georgina to the ECC you have five minutes you be you may begin when you're ready thank you uh by", "start": 2400.16, "end": 2407.56}, {"text": "way of introduction I live in Markland wood near blur and Mill Road and I", "start": 2407.56, "end": 2412.76}, {"text": "learned to ski at the Centennial ski hill and I volunteer at the friends of the conservatory and I wrote a letter to", "start": 2412.76, "end": 2418.48}, {"text": "Steven Holliday uh in February of last year about this project my concerns are", "start": 2418.48, "end": 2424.72}, {"text": "location density noise Park events and", "start": 2424.72, "end": 2430.76}, {"text": "schools with regard to location 596 rfor Drive is adjacent to Centennial Park", "start": 2430.76, "end": 2437.28}, {"text": "which is low-lying land it is near two Creeks icho Creek and renforth Creek", "start": 2437.28, "end": 2444.04}, {"text": "these Creeks both start at the slope of the oish Marine the creek water travels", "start": 2444.04, "end": 2449.839}, {"text": "38 miles south to Lake Ontario a lot of this soil I'm told is", "start": 2449.839, "end": 2455.119}, {"text": "silt which is why it was flooded in 2013 it was the worst storm since", "start": 2455.119, "end": 2460.76}, {"text": "Hurricane Hazel in 1954 many houses got flooded including", "start": 2460.76, "end": 2465.8}, {"text": "ours in Markland wood 2third of the homes in our street got flooded the", "start": 2465.8, "end": 2471.04}, {"text": "garbage that people removed from their basements and crawl spaces aligned both sides of the street I understand", "start": 2471.04, "end": 2477.16}, {"text": "flooding of homes extended as far north as lingon Avenue density the plan is for 596", "start": 2477.16, "end": 2486.56}, {"text": "renforth Drive D is to build 140 stacked tow houses after the Masonic building is", "start": 2486.56, "end": 2492.92}, {"text": "either moved or torn down there were supposed to be 185 car parking spaces", "start": 2492.92, "end": 2498.92}, {"text": "for underground yesterday when I stopped by and read the sign displayed on the lawn", "start": 2498.92, "end": 2504.76}, {"text": "next to the street a sticker had been placed over the parking space number and it now read 177 spaces for cars and", "start": 2504.76, "end": 2513.88}, {"text": "109 sorry 106 spaces for bikes the people who buy these town houses can", "start": 2513.88, "end": 2519.599}, {"text": "enter the underground shared garage with their vehicles there's going to be one elevator to ground level I was", "start": 2519.599, "end": 2526.839}, {"text": "told noise 596 renforth is under the final", "start": 2526.839, "end": 2532.48}, {"text": "descent path for airplanes landing at Pearson Airport it's between two north", "start": 2532.48, "end": 2539}, {"text": "south runways one over bdale United Church and another over nearby", "start": 2539, "end": 2544.52}, {"text": "businesses and homes in Miss aaga when the weather gets really bad the noise is", "start": 2544.52, "end": 2550.16}, {"text": "awful these runways are also used when one of the East West runways is having its tarmac repaired or redone and that", "start": 2550.16, "end": 2558.16}, {"text": "happened in late 2022 a resident near the ranforce site", "start": 2558.16, "end": 2563.2}, {"text": "told me that there's often car racing at night and motorbikes a long rainforth", "start": 2563.2, "end": 2570.24}, {"text": "drive yikes uh Park events many large soccer", "start": 2570.24, "end": 2576.48}, {"text": "baseball Golf and football games are held in the park Ribfest and other", "start": 2576.48, "end": 2582.16}, {"text": "events also take place there why because there's lots of space and good car", "start": 2582.16, "end": 2587.76}, {"text": "parking lots there are eight tall hogen lights in the park which St can stay on", "start": 2587.76, "end": 2594.4}, {"text": "till 11:00 p.m. at night schools will the local schools be", "start": 2594.4, "end": 2600.24}, {"text": "able to handle the additional students these townhouse complex will likely provide when the Stacked town houses at", "start": 2600.24, "end": 2608.16}, {"text": "the East Mall and burnhamthorp Road were being built TDSB with its Apple logo on the sign", "start": 2608.16, "end": 2615.079}, {"text": "posted outside said it could not guarantee the children residing in the town houses could be accommodated in", "start": 2615.079, "end": 2621.4}, {"text": "existing schools for a long time some of the tow houses were", "start": 2621.4, "end": 2626.8}, {"text": "unsold in conclusion one resident of the 596 rfor", "start": 2626.8, "end": 2632.16}, {"text": "Drive area said yes we need housing but we're building it in the wrong places I could", "start": 2632.16, "end": 2639.2}, {"text": "not have put it better I see our Parks such as Centennial as extensions of the", "start": 2639.2, "end": 2645.28}, {"text": "green belt which we should not be encroaching on thank you thank you are", "start": 2645.28, "end": 2651.88}, {"text": "there any questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us", "start": 2651.88, "end": 2658.16}, {"text": "today uh those are all the speakers that I have listed is there anyone else uh that wishes to speak on 596 six renforth", "start": 2660.48, "end": 2669.16}, {"text": "Drive seeing none uh I will uh ask my colleagues if there are questions of", "start": 2669.16, "end": 2676.28}, {"text": "Staff okay may I pass the chair um councelor holiday thank", "start": 2676.28, "end": 2683.2}, {"text": "you questions excuse me questions of Staff um could we just have a very quick", "start": 2683.2, "end": 2690.559}, {"text": "overview of the mechanics of what's being asked of community council currently I think the zoning is", "start": 2690.559, "end": 2698.72}, {"text": "institutional uh within the neighborhood's designation and I wondered if you could just explain to", "start": 2698.72, "end": 2703.96}, {"text": "council even if there's parallel examples of what's before us today and if there's any ability to comment what", "start": 2703.96, "end": 2710.319}, {"text": "could be built there today without approval of council just by going right", "start": 2710.319, "end": 2716.319}, {"text": "ahead uh sure back to you Mr chair so you're correct the official plan", "start": 2716.44, "end": 2722.4}, {"text": "designation for this site is neighborhoods so it does allow f array", "start": 2722.4, "end": 2727.559}, {"text": "of residential type uses it is zoned institutional as was uh stated by the", "start": 2727.559, "end": 2734.72}, {"text": "applicants representative and further to what she said institutional uses aren't", "start": 2734.72, "end": 2741.64}, {"text": "necessarily all government or public um", "start": 2741.64, "end": 2746.8}, {"text": "types of uses that for instance you could have an art gallery you could have a retirement home there are many uses in", "start": 2746.8, "end": 2753.48}, {"text": "fact there are more uses in institutional zoning that are actually run by nonprofit or private than they", "start": 2753.48, "end": 2760.04}, {"text": "are by public so uh it is possible to have a residential type use even in an", "start": 2760.04, "end": 2767.559}, {"text": "Institutional zone for instance a retirement home so what you have before you today is just uh the zoning uh", "start": 2767.559, "end": 2776.92}, {"text": "asking Community Council to consider a change in zoning from institutional to", "start": 2776.92, "end": 2782}, {"text": "residential multiple to permit the Stacked um development and and to", "start": 2782, "end": 2787.559}, {"text": "provide for the performance standards the setbacks the height limits Etc around that at a later stage we will go", "start": 2787.559, "end": 2796.48}, {"text": "through and complete the site plan Control process which will get into the finer details uh related to what we'll", "start": 2796.48, "end": 2804.4}, {"text": "eventually get a building permit for these lands can you tell me today what's the", "start": 2804.4, "end": 2810.72}, {"text": "current permitted height on the site", "start": 2810.72, "end": 2816.28}, {"text": "I might ask I don't think I have that off my", "start": 2817.48, "end": 2822.96}, {"text": "head oh the current height limit is 15 M 15 meters tall so the current The", "start": 2830.48, "end": 2835.8}, {"text": "Proposal is less than that right now that's correct the current proposal is under 11 meters in height okay um there", "start": 2835.8, "end": 2843.8}, {"text": "was a there was a point raised about parking spaces um city council changed the requirement", "start": 2843.8, "end": 2852.04}, {"text": "how many parking spaces are developers required to build on residential", "start": 2852.04, "end": 2857.079}, {"text": "applications today well the common myth is zero but", "start": 2857.079, "end": 2863.16}, {"text": "actually there are Provisions in certain parts of the city that do require a certain amount of parking certainly what", "start": 2863.16, "end": 2868.599}, {"text": "council passed with its parking review bylaw a year or so ago uh significantly", "start": 2868.599, "end": 2874.68}, {"text": "reduced the parking requirements on new development as part of changing the", "start": 2874.68, "end": 2879.96}, {"text": "motal split to get for more Transit use bike use Etc this proposal here actually", 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questions by councelor holiday um so if a development just for", "start": 2984.64, "end": 2992.44}, {"text": "clarification because I I get this all the time when we have meetings okay when you have a develop element right next to", "start": 2992.44, "end": 2997.52}, {"text": "the gold station and up Express where there's Transit so just give me a percentage of the parking requirement", "start": 2997.52, "end": 3004.079}, {"text": "you know well there was a time previous byla requirements usually were one to one or", "start": 3004.079, "end": 3011.52}, {"text": "so what what is it now oh now uh it if you're within a certain distance of", "start": 3011.52, "end": 3017.799}, {"text": "higher order Transit generally within 800 meters yeah we're seeing lots of development with zero", "start": 3017.799, "end": 3024}, {"text": "proposed and in fact council's passed me with zero uh I think our challenge has", "start": 3024, "end": 3030.48}, {"text": "been with some of those developments that we want sufficient visitor parking and there is a natural demand for some", "start": 3030.48, "end": 3036.52}, {"text": "parking in these buildings to some degree uh what applicants are seeking is", "start": 3036.52, "end": 3043.079}, {"text": "that the bylaw doesn't require a certain amount of spaces but when they build the development they're not prevented from", "start": 3043.079, "end": 3050.079}, {"text": "providing more parking depending on demand from the sales of those units okay because that question is always", "start": 3050.079, "end": 3055.799}, {"text": "asked um yeah thank you thank you any other questions seeing", "start": 3055.799, "end": 3061.799}, {"text": "none we'll go to speakers any members wishing to speak okay I I will speak if I may pass", "start": 3061.799, "end": 3067.559}, {"text": "the chair to to the uh the vice chair do you", "start": 3067.559, "end": 3073.76}, {"text": "want you want to do it or do you want me to do it okay councelor holiday to speak", "start": 3073.76, "end": 3078.839}, {"text": "all right um I have a a few motions uh the first motion and I'll", "start": 3078.839, "end": 3084.48}, {"text": "I'll just summarize uh it's a very routine one oh good we've got the screen uh the first one um does not allow for", "start": 3084.48, "end": 3092.28}, {"text": "the future residents of this location to be able to apply for on street parking", "start": 3092.28, "end": 3098.52}, {"text": "anywhere in anywhere uh and it asks that the the development um process include", "start": 3098.52, "end": 3106.599}, {"text": "warning Clauses for the purchasers the next motion is uh speaks", "start": 3106.599, "end": 3111.96}, {"text": "a little bit to the details of the report there are some changes that are contemplated for sent Park gate and this", "start": 3111.96, "end": 3118.92}, {"text": "asks that uh that um that the general", "start": 3118.92, "end": 3124.079}, {"text": "manager of Transportation Services coordinate and consult uh with the local counselor and", "start": 3124.079, "end": 3131.359}, {"text": "the community on any of those changes the third motion asks um City staff uh", "start": 3131.359, "end": 3138.68}, {"text": "to consult with the local counselor on the construction management plan to ensure that it meets the needs of the", "start": 3138.68, "end": 3144.079}, {"text": "local residents institutions and parking users and the fourth motion is just a", "start": 3144.079, "end": 3149.319}, {"text": "rather simple one and it responds to some correspondence that was provided by by one of the neighboring residents uh", "start": 3149.319, "end": 3155.52}, {"text": "because I think he wanted a tree to be planted on renforth Drive uh between his house and the development and I I uh", "start": 3155.52, "end": 3162.76}, {"text": "that's just an Ask of staff to do that [Music]", "start": 3162.76, "end": 3168.64}, {"text": "um I'm sorry yeah I was just speaking the c pro sorry um so just I think this", "start": 3168.64, "end": 3176.52}, {"text": "speakers for coming today uh I realize through this process not everyone agrees with what the proposal is before us and", "start": 3176.52, "end": 3183.559}, {"text": "I you know even admit when I first saw this my instincts were the same you know boy I'd really like this to be part of", "start": 3183.559, "end": 3189.44}, {"text": "Centennial Park but as I looked it's not uh I'd really like there to be um maybe", "start": 3189.44, "end": 3195.4}, {"text": "some sort of an Institutional use that's there today even though the Masonic temple uh was not an outside facing it", "start": 3195.4, "end": 3203.28}, {"text": "was you know it was an organization and not for profit um you know that'd be great but the fact", "start": 3203.28, "end": 3208.799}, {"text": "was somebody bought the property with an intention to develop it and then I thought a little bit through about what", "start": 3208.799, "end": 3215.72}, {"text": "is being asked of counsel and when you look at the city's official plan Maps you find out this is neighborhoods and", "start": 3215.72, "end": 3222.2}, {"text": "that's not a surprise the North to the north there's a school to and then beyond that there's a fire station and", "start": 3222.2, "end": 3227.96}, {"text": "some houses to the other side of the street there's houses to the South there is a retirement home there's a church", "start": 3227.96, "end": 3234.88}, {"text": "and there's more town houses and so it it it is a neighborhood and then the question is well you know do", "start": 3234.88, "end": 3241.16}, {"text": "you allow for an infill development on a site that is otherwise to use for something a little different and I", "start": 3241.16, "end": 3247.28}, {"text": "thought about you know where have we seen this before and it it happens all the time in the city you know some of", "start": 3247.28, "end": 3252.319}, {"text": "the the cases you see are is like when a church closes down and there's houses all around it and you look at it and you", "start": 3252.319, "end": 3257.44}, {"text": "say well what do you what do you do with the site and often people do an infill development and so that's really what's", "start": 3257.44, "end": 3264.16}, {"text": "before us today or you know is is Community Council and the city council okay with that we've received the advice", "start": 3264.16, "end": 3270.72}, {"text": "from our planning staff they're recommending that that change occur and they're they've uh laid out all of the", "start": 3270.72, "end": 3276.48}, {"text": "details in the report about what will be built and what could be built uh and then you know we go to the next layer", "start": 3276.48, "end": 3282.2}, {"text": "and we think about all the details of the site how big is it what's the shape of it what's the setback uh the parking", "start": 3282.2, "end": 3288.44}, {"text": "you know the parking is a big a big worry of mine you know is there going to be enough spaces to make sure that the needs are met because I don't want the", "start": 3288.44, "end": 3295.359}, {"text": "visitors to park in the Centennial Park parking lots or Park illegally on the", "start": 3295.359, "end": 3300.52}, {"text": "road because we'd have a larger problem but the advice I got back from staff was that this developer has provided an um", "start": 3300.52, "end": 3307.72}, {"text": "an adequate number of parking spaces in the underground and so putting that all together I realize you know not everyone", "start": 3307.72, "end": 3314.319}, {"text": "is going to agree with these applications but on balance Council needs to read the wishes of the", "start": 3314.319, "end": 3319.48}, {"text": "community um the the the type of advice that we receive from our planning staff and we have to think through and balance", "start": 3319.48, "end": 3325.68}, {"text": "all of those people pieces together so I will be supporting the application uh I", "start": 3325.68, "end": 3331.28}, {"text": "I take the staff report and uh I really look to all the advice that everyone has put together on this the last thing I", "start": 3331.28, "end": 3338}, {"text": "would say just on my motions um they are uh you'll see Community consultation uh weaved into a couple of", "start": 3338, "end": 3344.76}, {"text": "them and that's because uh as this process unfolds I look forward to staying in touch with the community who", "start": 3344.76, "end": 3350.68}, {"text": "can best provide advice about how that road should be modified and according to one of the submission online here you", "start": 3350.68, "end": 3357.319}, {"text": "know the concerns of the neighboring uh the neighboring land owners and all the people that use the space with respect", "start": 3357.319, "end": 3364.119}, {"text": "to how the construction will unfold and I'm confident that there will be an opportunity to work together as this", "start": 3364.119, "end": 3369.88}, {"text": "process unfolds uh so with that I will thank everybody for their participation in this process and uh I will just check", "start": 3369.88, "end": 3376.92}, {"text": "with the clerk who do we we've got all the pieces", "start": 3376.92, "end": 3382.76}, {"text": "okay um thank you yeah just SEC do we have any questions for uh councelor holiday okay I'll pass the chair back on", "start": 3391.76, "end": 3398.48}, {"text": "to you thank you okay uh so the the", "start": 3398.48, "end": 3403.52}, {"text": "recommendations I guess we're going to try to get them on the screen great so the first one is the parking one and", "start": 3403.52, "end": 3409.079}, {"text": "then at the bottom I think we have the two recommendations with respect to the", "start": 3409.079, "end": 3414.28}, {"text": "site uh excuse me the construction management process and the um the design", "start": 3414.28, "end": 3422.44}, {"text": "of the road and then there was one additional motion that just asked urban forestry to look at planting a tree and", "start": 3422.44, "end": 3428.92}, {"text": "that was a response to a particular resident who made a request okay all those in favor on the", "start": 3428.92, "end": 3434.72}, {"text": "first amendment that Amendment carries on the second amendment that carries and on the", "start": 3434.72, "end": 3441.839}, {"text": "item as amended that carries thank you", "start": 3441.839, "end": 3447.72}, {"text": "okay the next item is ey 8.2 514 520 522 W York Road residential demolition", "start": 3449.359, "end": 3456}, {"text": "application we have a speaker registered that is Adam Rogers uh do we have Adam online or in the", "start": 3456, "end": 3463.2}, {"text": "chamber Adam Rogers it's St holiday the chair of the ECC can you hear me okay I", "start": 3474, "end": 3480}, {"text": "can can you hear me yes welcome to the ECC um you have five minutes to speak", "start": 3480, "end": 3485.72}, {"text": "please proceed when you're ready okay uh I'll keep this uh very short uh basically it's the same uh", "start": 3485.72, "end": 3493.28}, {"text": "information I sent in my email but uh straightforward uh there doesn't seem to", "start": 3493.28, "end": 3499.24}, {"text": "be any need to push this demolition forward based on the report that was submitted uh as we're all aware", "start": 3499.24, "end": 3506.64}, {"text": "anything of any construction nature will uh could lead to uh increased traffic uh", "start": 3506.64, "end": 3514.16}, {"text": "could uh negatively affect the neighbors based on noise uh there's no as there's no haste to do this why not let's get", "start": 3514.16, "end": 3521.4}, {"text": "the permits that let's get all the permits in order and then just do the demolition all at once it'll save the", "start": 3521.4, "end": 3526.52}, {"text": "neighbors that that extra time and uh since we had it also hopefully push the", "start": 3526.52, "end": 3532.28}, {"text": "incentive to the developer to get this done sooner because as we all know we've increased the vacant home tax which is", "start": 3532.28, "end": 3538.799}, {"text": "part of the reason is to increase development so if we put this forward there's a there's a bigger chance that", "start": 3538.799, "end": 3544.599}, {"text": "it'll be an empty lot that sits there while they uh and there's no guarantee that they're going to move on this", "start": 3544.599, "end": 3550.28}, {"text": "anytime soon so this will put the fire under them to get this developed done faster uh that's my my opinion on this", "start": 3550.28, "end": 3556.839}, {"text": "site uh again just for the people in that area they don't have to be subjected to two separate incidences", "start": 3556.839, "end": 3562.64}, {"text": "let's do it all at once the permanent they're just waiting for permits it's it's on its way they can wait a little", "start": 3562.64, "end": 3568.039}, {"text": "longer for those uh traffic that can be caused uh in two separate instances due", "start": 3568.039, "end": 3573.64}, {"text": "to this and just the nature of the fact that uh this will put an incentive on the developer to get this get the", "start": 3573.64, "end": 3579.319}, {"text": "permits uh expedited as soon as possible because as it saided oh and and as I said the report itself said that there", "start": 3579.319, "end": 3585.839}, {"text": "is no need to this be done right away uh and I should also note that uh if there", "start": 3585.839, "end": 3591.52}, {"text": "is a concern about these sites they always had the right to uh rent the out if they wanted to they decided not to", "start": 3591.52, "end": 3597.96}, {"text": "they decided to let them get to the position they are that that was their choice uh if they wanted to recruit losses they could have rented these uh", "start": 3597.96, "end": 3604.559}, {"text": "properties out that's all I have to say on that one thank you very much thanks Adam are there any questions of the", "start": 3604.559, "end": 3609.96}, {"text": "speaker seeing none thank you for joining us um I'll just call are there any other", "start": 3609.96, "end": 3616.88}, {"text": "speakers on this particular item seeing none uh we'll take it into committee questions of Staff councelor", "start": 3616.88, "end": 3623.44}, {"text": "uh Deputy Mayor Morley thank you Mr chair through you to staff um just to pick up on uh our deputat Point around", "start": 3623.44, "end": 3631.2}, {"text": "um the status of any future development of the site um can anybody provide an update yeah thank", "start": 3631.2, "end": 3638.88}, {"text": "you through the chair uh thank you counselor yes we are processing a", "start": 3638.88, "end": 3644.4}, {"text": "resoning application for this site it's a proposal to construct um four BU four", "start": 3644.4, "end": 3650.52}, {"text": "main buildings uh they range in height from 10 to 35 stories", "start": 3650.52, "end": 3656.44}, {"text": "uh but there's s sort of lower height components to it it's almost a thousand", "start": 3656.44, "end": 3662.76}, {"text": "residential units uh the applicant has appealed it to the", "start": 3662.76, "end": 3668.64}, {"text": "Olt nonetheless we're still working through this at this stage my recall is", "start": 3668.64, "end": 3675.72}, {"text": "we have not received a site plan control application in yet so we're not close to", "start": 3675.72, "end": 3682.48}, {"text": "building permits yet thank you and just to follow up on that would it be reasonable to defer", "start": 3682.48, "end": 3688.44}, {"text": "until such time as we have um more as it relates to the zoning bylaw amendments", "start": 3688.44, "end": 3694.72}, {"text": "in in place um because again the sense that I have is there's not an immediate", "start": 3694.72, "end": 3703}, {"text": "uh rush for the Demolition and we're leaning towards deferral do you see that becoming an issue for the delays to the", "start": 3703, "end": 3709.24}, {"text": "process uh through the chair I I don't know the motivation behind wanting the", "start": 3709.24, "end": 3714.359}, {"text": "demolition at this stage probably to clean the site ahead of time but it's not that it's required because there's", "start": 3714.359, "end": 3721.359}, {"text": "uh an imminent need to do so at this very", "start": 3721.359, "end": 3727.079}, {"text": "moment thank you are there any other questions to staff uh okay we'll go with councelor", "start": 3727.76, "end": 3735.039}, {"text": "just one question just one question on the um it it's at the O now you said", "start": 3735.039, "end": 3741.279}, {"text": "right uh yes so at the O LT they um they", "start": 3741.279, "end": 3747.039}, {"text": "could approve the demolition am I right I actually through the chair don't", "start": 3747.039, "end": 3752.92}, {"text": "know the answer to that question I I was just very curious on your answer can", "start": 3752.92, "end": 3759.2}, {"text": "I I don't believe so at so the app the application now is", "start": 3759.2, "end": 3767.64}, {"text": "at the Olt so my question is um can they the Olt can they approve the demolition", "start": 3767.64, "end": 3774.96}, {"text": "if we don't do it like is it part of their appeal I through the chair I'm not", "start": 3774.96, "end": 3780.4}, {"text": "familiar with the specific appeal my understanding it would be the uh it would just the the planning application", "start": 3780.4, "end": 3785.48}, {"text": "that's before the Olt the the uh the demolition application is something", "start": 3785.48, "end": 3791.119}, {"text": "that's usually handled through the building code and the building code act so uh I I would think and I could look", "start": 3791.119, "end": 3796.4}, {"text": "into this in more detail but I would think that the uh recourse from that is to the courts uh by taking uh by taking", "start": 3796.4, "end": 3803.279}, {"text": "the CBO uh to a court application rather than through the LT I I was just curious yeah because", "start": 3803.279, "end": 3810.72}, {"text": "this never happened before I've never okay thank you thank you any other questions", "start": 3810.72, "end": 3817.16}, {"text": "councelor granti just a clarification on the recommendations well first of all when when anybody when somebody uh applies", "start": 3817.16, "end": 3824.44}, {"text": "for a demolition permit isn't there a requirement on that demolition application to explain why they want to", "start": 3824.44, "end": 3833.039}, {"text": "demolish at this time", "start": 3833.039, "end": 3837.48}, {"text": "uh Chief Building officials got some information for us can through you Mr chair um yes in", "start": 3841.88, "end": 3850.88}, {"text": "accordance with the Demolition control bylaw in order for someone to obtain a demolition they need to First obtain", "start": 3850.88, "end": 3858.319}, {"text": "their permit for the replacement building and if they don't do that then they come to council requesting reasons", "start": 3858.319, "end": 3866.279}, {"text": "why they're looking to demolish it ahead of having that replacement building", "start": 3866.279, "end": 3871.68}, {"text": "permit but they haven't given those reasons they excuse me not that I can", "start": 3871.68, "end": 3876.92}, {"text": "see so to my knowledge they haven't given the reasons other than um there's vandalism there's upkeep of the of the", "start": 3876.92, "end": 3884.52}, {"text": "buildings or vacant buildings so they're having some some issues on the site in", "start": 3884.52, "end": 3890}, {"text": "that regard but there's also a rental housing agreement that's in place that requires them to get their building", "start": 3890, "end": 3897.359}, {"text": "permit replacement buildings prior to getting their demolition permit so all right and and thank you just one", "start": 3897.359, "end": 3904.72}, {"text": "more thing so the recommendation says to refuse the application to demolish the vacant Residential Building um and", "start": 3904.72, "end": 3912.359}, {"text": "because there's no permit as you just indicated then second point is to approve the application to demolish are", "start": 3912.359, "end": 3918.359}, {"text": "we talking about the same building you're saying refuse but then approve the third says approve the application to", "start": 3918.359, "end": 3923.559}, {"text": "demolish with the conditions point of clarification CH uh through Mr chair yes", "start": 3923.559, "end": 3930.4}, {"text": "um so there are three options that Council can choose that we put forward", "start": 3930.4, "end": 3935.92}, {"text": "to council so yes so those are three options that Council can consider and then it's up to council to decide which", "start": 3935.92, "end": 3942.52}, {"text": "option or if you want to amend one of those options you could do that as well okay then that'll be up to Deputy Mayor", "start": 3942.52, "end": 3948.4}, {"text": "to pick an option for us okay all right thank you thank you any other questions to staff seeing none uh Deputy Mayor", "start": 3948.4, "end": 3956.079}, {"text": "moley to speak thank you Mr chair um and thank you to staff for preparing this report", "start": 3956.079, "end": 3962.839}, {"text": "uh we have are not confident at this time in moving forward with the Demolition however um I am hesitant to", "start": 3962.839, "end": 3969.64}, {"text": "deny the application I'm looking to defer um so allow a little bit more time", "start": 3969.64, "end": 3974.72}, {"text": "with staff as well as with the applicant to get closer to a potential um uh", "start": 3974.72, "end": 3981.64}, {"text": "confirmation of their future um permits for new buildings um are we able to", "start": 3981.64, "end": 3987.039}, {"text": "defer uh do an Al alternate wreck to defer this item to uh I would say Q2 2024 to allow", "start": 3987.039, "end": 3997.559}, {"text": "sometime again to connect directly with the applicant allow their process with ol and others to proceed um and", "start": 3997.559, "end": 4005.039}, {"text": "hopefully by then we might have some additional Clarity on the future of that site and more confidence in moving", "start": 4005.039, "end": 4010.64}, {"text": "forward with the Demolition July thank you Madame Clerk", "start": 4010.64, "end": 4017.52}, {"text": "uh will the clerks finalize that I'll just check are there any other members of council wishing to speak on this", "start": 4024.16, "end": 4029.319}, {"text": "item nope okay we'll just give it a moment we'll get that motion uh typed", "start": 4029.319, "end": 4035.16}, {"text": "out and uh we'll vote on it in a", "start": 4035.16, "end": 4039.278}, {"text": "sec there you go Deputy Mayor um the item be deferred to the July 15 2024", "start": 4042.359, "end": 4047.599}, {"text": "meeting that's your intention great okay on um uh this is a single vote right", "start": 4047.599, "end": 4054.079}, {"text": "Madame clerk yep so on the uh the item presented by Deputy Mayor Morley all", "start": 4054.079, "end": 4060.24}, {"text": "those in favor any opposed uh that", "start": 4060.24, "end": 4065.319}, {"text": "carries okay ey 8.3 uh 26 30 32 34 36 38 burnhamthorp", "start": 4072.319, "end": 4079.76}, {"text": "Crescent and 45 47 49 burnhamthorp Crescent residential demolition application um we have a speaker", "start": 4079.76, "end": 4087.079}, {"text": "registered that's Adam Rogers uh Adam it's Stephen holiday um chair of the ECC can you hear", "start": 4087.079, "end": 4095.559}, {"text": "me yes I can hear you now uh welcome back uh please go ahead when you're ready to", "start": 4095.96, "end": 4101.758}, {"text": "start uh I am ready uh so I'll keep this short um this uh has been a problematic", "start": 4101.759, "end": 4108.359}, {"text": "site for the Neighbors of Islington Village uh I know this site very well grew up in the area uh it's", "start": 4108.359, "end": 4114.56}, {"text": "straightforward it it's already been appealed it's going to go through I get it uh but there is no haste to get this", "start": 4114.56, "end": 4121.679}, {"text": "demolition done uh I've seen the site many times there there is no uh there's", "start": 4121.679, "end": 4127.159}, {"text": "no vandalism of any nature uh there the the site is still in good good state of well I haven't been on site obviously", "start": 4127.159, "end": 4133.798}, {"text": "but from the report the site is still still in a state of uh uh still in a", "start": 4133.799, "end": 4139.359}, {"text": "state that it it doesn't require immediate uh tear down uh they as I said", "start": 4139.359, "end": 4144.798}, {"text": "to the last choice if they wish to recruit their losses they could have rented these properties out they chose", "start": 4144.799, "end": 4150.359}, {"text": "not to that was their choice uh I should also say that that location is right on", "start": 4150.359, "end": 4155.64}, {"text": "the curve of burnhamthorp going into uh to Dundas that is a very major traffic", "start": 4155.64, "end": 4162.758}, {"text": "area uh the least amount of time we the the time we can reduce to construction to that area is ideal because any Lane", "start": 4162.759, "end": 4170.199}, {"text": "held up in there is of uh is going to clog traffic up especially during rush hour I know that area very very well it", "start": 4170.199, "end": 4176.758}, {"text": "is always backed up for left turns so let's get it all done at once they're getting their permanence in order", "start": 4176.759, "end": 4182.318}, {"text": "there's no haste to get them done let's get all their ducks in a row get it all done at once uh it's a straightforward", "start": 4182.319, "end": 4188.318}, {"text": "as that I appreciate their their expediency but based on the report there is there's no need for it to be done", "start": 4188.319, "end": 4194.56}, {"text": "right now it can be held off until they get their permanence in order I imagine they're pretty close to that once that's", "start": 4194.56, "end": 4200.32}, {"text": "done follow the rules like everyone else um and I do see there was a report from the police uh that they they appealed to", "start": 4200.32, "end": 4207.44}, {"text": "but I can note that there hasn't been no reports of vandalism in that area I think I I appreciate the the police", "start": 4207.44, "end": 4213.32}, {"text": "concern on this one but I think as long this should push put a fire under these folks to get this done this has been", "start": 4213.32, "end": 4219.719}, {"text": "pending for a long time and I get they're probably they probably feel some frustration so let's do the permits in", "start": 4219.719, "end": 4225.48}, {"text": "order get your permits do a demo everything at once and save the residents of that area from further", "start": 4225.48, "end": 4232.12}, {"text": "delay and further traffic it's GNA happen let's do it when it should be all in order thank", "start": 4232.12, "end": 4237.679}, {"text": "you thank you Adam are there any questions to the speaker seeing none thank you for", "start": 4237.679, "end": 4242.84}, {"text": "joining us today um qu are there any other speakers in this item okay questions of", "start": 4242.84, "end": 4250.679}, {"text": "Staff seeing none uh Deputy Mayor moley to speak thank you Mr chair um and thank", "start": 4250.679, "end": 4256.48}, {"text": "you again to our debutant for um his participation here today I will respectfully disagree on this one uh we", "start": 4256.48, "end": 4262.8}, {"text": "do have an application that's a little bit further along in the process and uh as we've heard from other community", "start": 4262.8, "end": 4268.48}, {"text": "stakeholders the um intention of the uh applicant here to move forward with", "start": 4268.48, "end": 4273.6}, {"text": "demolition does feel appropriate in terms of timing um so I will be moving recommendation number three of the", "start": 4273.6, "end": 4279.76}, {"text": "report to approve the application to demolish the vacant residential building with conditions um and clerks can H have", "start": 4279.76, "end": 4287.08}, {"text": "those on screen now so the conditions are um listed above and uh that's my my", "start": 4287.08, "end": 4293.28}, {"text": "motion today thank you uh Deputy Mayor moley moves um", "start": 4293.28, "end": 4298.4}, {"text": "recommendation number three which is the demolition with conditions all those in", "start": 4298.4, "end": 4303.76}, {"text": "favor any opposed that item carries ey 8.4 34 cold Road application to remove a", "start": 4303.76, "end": 4311.8}, {"text": "private tree we have a speaker registered uh the speaker is Ivan quevic so Ivan", "start": 4311.8, "end": 4319.08}, {"text": "welcome Ivan to the UICC uh you have five minutes to speak to community council uh please begin", "start": 4319.08, "end": 4324.96}, {"text": "when you're ready thank you um so I'm like to take this", "start": 4324.96, "end": 4332.4}, {"text": "opportunity to discuss my application and bring up some important elements that the urban forestry report", "start": 4332.4, "end": 4339.52}, {"text": "omits um the first thing to note is that the tree in question is a Norway maple", "start": 4339.52, "end": 4345.76}, {"text": "um what the urban forestry report doesn't say is that the city considers these an invasive species and that the", "start": 4345.76, "end": 4353.48}, {"text": "city has been waging a decade long campaign to reduce their number as an example the city's canopy study from", "start": 4353.48, "end": 4361.239}, {"text": "2018 reported that on account of deliberate measures taken by the city to diversify away from the species the", "start": 4361.239, "end": 4367.88}, {"text": "proportion of Norway Maples lining the city streets was reduced from 22% to 13 a. half% within a decade that same study", "start": 4367.88, "end": 4375.96}, {"text": "stated that the Norway maple can outcompete native species the urban forestry report also", "start": 4375.96, "end": 4382.4}, {"text": "admits to mention that the city of Toronto has adopted a strategic Forest management plan and one of its six goals", "start": 4382.4, "end": 4389.28}, {"text": "is the increase in biodiversity the report also doesn't mention that Toronto strategy has as one", "start": 4389.28, "end": 4394.96}, {"text": "of its goals the removal of invasive species in short the report's recommendation to deny the request flies", "start": 4394.96, "end": 4402.12}, {"text": "in the face of the city's strategic goals of increasing biodiversity and is contrary to its own actions of", "start": 4402.12, "end": 4408.239}, {"text": "aggressive removal of this species from city property the urban forestry report also", "start": 4408.239, "end": 4414.36}, {"text": "doesn't mention another of the six goals of the of the Strategic Forest management plan that of achieving", "start": 4414.36, "end": 4421.44}, {"text": "equitable distribution I take this to mean that no single property owner or", "start": 4421.44, "end": 4426.96}, {"text": "neighborhood is overly burdened with an invasive species for context the", "start": 4426.96, "end": 4432.639}, {"text": "backyard in question is about 30 ft by 30 ft in size and contains six full", "start": 4432.639, "end": 4439}, {"text": "grown maple trees five of which are Norway Maples the two neighboring backyards", "start": 4439, "end": 4446.159}, {"text": "also host Norway Maples on the front side five of the", "start": 4446.159, "end": 4451.239}, {"text": "seven Street trees closest to the house are Nori Maples I think it's fair to say", "start": 4451.239, "end": 4457.199}, {"text": "that the property and the neighborhood are disproportionately burdened with this invasive", "start": 4457.199, "end": 4463.08}, {"text": "species and exist exist inside a tree", "start": 4463.08, "end": 4468.56}, {"text": "monoculture thus the urban forestry recommendation to deny the request also goes against another of the Strategic", "start": 4468.56, "end": 4474.679}, {"text": "Forest Mansion PL goals of achieving equitable distribution in place of the", "start": 4474.679, "end": 4479.88}, {"text": "Norway maple I would like to plant a few native species hemlocks and beaches but", "start": 4479.88, "end": 4484.96}, {"text": "as the canopy study makes clear these species will be out competed and will", "start": 4484.96, "end": 4490.04}, {"text": "not Thrive one of the claims that the urban forestry report does make is that and", "start": 4490.04, "end": 4496.92}, {"text": "I'm going to quote that the nor that the Norway maple tree at 34 kled Road", "start": 4496.92, "end": 4502.04}, {"text": "provides numerous aesthetic social and economic benefits to the property owner", "start": 4502.04, "end": 4508.679}, {"text": "and the local community wow the presumptuousness and", "start": 4508.679, "end": 4514.96}, {"text": "huis of that statement should give this Council pause I definitely don't need a", "start": 4514.96, "end": 4520.32}, {"text": "surrogate to determine whether I derive aesthetic social or economic benefits from of my", "start": 4520.32, "end": 4525.92}, {"text": "property I will also point out that the three letters in support versus none in", "start": 4525.92, "end": 4531.44}, {"text": "opposition to the proposal to my proposal also suggests that the urban forestry got wrong the community's views", "start": 4531.44, "end": 4538.36}, {"text": "on the aesthetic social and economic benefits of the tree so I IG just Council to pass a motion to number one", "start": 4538.36, "end": 4545.12}, {"text": "entirely reject the urban forestry report number two to give weight to the", "start": 4545.12, "end": 4550.159}, {"text": "property owner and the community's views and wishes who don't want to live in a", "start": 4550.159, "end": 4555.679}, {"text": "monoculture and number three to approve the my request without condition thank", "start": 4555.679, "end": 4562.92}, {"text": "you um we have a question for you depan may Morley thank you Mr chair and thank", "start": 4564.52, "end": 4569.8}, {"text": "you Ivan for being here today I appreciate your um presentation can you talk to me a little bit more about your", "start": 4569.8, "end": 4575.239}, {"text": "concerns of living in a tree monoculture like what are some of the negative impacts as you're experiencing", "start": 4575.239, "end": 4581.12}, {"text": "them well for for one all we see are maple trees and the negative effect is I", "start": 4581.12, "end": 4587.4}, {"text": "if I'm trying to plant other species hemlocks beaches a GLE tree whatever I want to plant it's not going to thrive", "start": 4587.4, "end": 4593.48}, {"text": "this is a huge canopy um these trees have huge canopies not a bad thing um I", "start": 4593.48, "end": 4599.159}, {"text": "have six of them on my property just just in my backyard a 30 by3 um so not", 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love diversity here in the", "start": 4640.92, "end": 4646.96}, {"text": "city so I'm not mad at that um why this tree and not any of the other five um this tree probably um would have", "start": 4646.96, "end": 4656.08}, {"text": "uh the biggest impact on um if I if I wanted to plant in its place something", "start": 4656.08, "end": 4661.48}, {"text": "else or next to it or you know in the plot next to it um because of the canopy", "start": 4661.48, "end": 4667.56}, {"text": "um and the way it's located in the yard it probably covers um the most and and", "start": 4667.56, "end": 4674.199}, {"text": "therefore like like I said if I'm trying to plant anything it really out competes it I know I have uh uh you know it sucks", "start": 4674.199, "end": 4679.84}, {"text": "up most of the water um you know other plants that other shrubs that have tried to plant next to it you know really", "start": 4679.84, "end": 4685.8}, {"text": "really don't Thrive and certainly like I said if if I'm trying to plant you know anything else that's more native um", "start": 4685.8, "end": 4691.36}, {"text": "these are not in these are these are invasive these are not native to to Canada so the I'd like to plant some", "start": 4691.36, "end": 4696.96}, {"text": "more native species and they won't Thrive if uh if", "start": 4696.96, "end": 4702.44}, {"text": "if if I try to do that thank you Ian thank you um any other questions I got a", "start": 4702.44, "end": 4709.12}, {"text": "quick one let me pass the chair c holiday question the the the vice chair has got", "start": 4709.12, "end": 4717.719}, {"text": "right all right uh thank you I did I understand correctly just from the I", "start": 4717.719, "end": 4723.28}, {"text": "guess the last few words are you looking to replant something in its place yes I'm looking to plant uh", "start": 4723.28, "end": 4729.84}, {"text": "hemlocks at beaches um potentially a Gango tree as well so I have I have a", "start": 4729.84, "end": 4735.32}, {"text": "plan to to to plant I'm not just looking to clearcut and leave it blank right and", "start": 4735.32, "end": 4741.04}, {"text": "and and that that's your your backyard that's my backyard and how many other trees did you have in the backyard already I have six full grown maple", "start": 4741.04, "end": 4748.96}, {"text": "trees in the backyard five of them are Norway Maples one's a silver maple", "start": 4748.96, "end": 4754.12}, {"text": "familiar with all of those thank you for speaking to", "start": 4754.12, "end": 4758.48}, {"text": "us okay questions to staff uh Deputy Mayor Morley thank you for", "start": 4760.76, "end": 4766.44}, {"text": "joining us thank you Mr chair through you to staff um I see Max here today thanks for joining us Max um can you", "start": 4766.44, "end": 4773.48}, {"text": "speak to us a little bit about um the tree in question here and uh what", "start": 4773.48, "end": 4780.92}, {"text": "potential impact um is it's having on the on the resident and the neighborhood", "start": 4780.92, "end": 4787.4}, {"text": "as being an invasive species yes through you Mr chair this uh", "start": 4787.4, "end": 4793}, {"text": "the nor maple trees is just a it's not a native tree to Toronto however the tree B chapter 813 does not", "start": 4793, "end": 4801.8}, {"text": "exempt the infas species that in terms of the issuing the permit or granting", "start": 4801.8, "end": 4808.239}, {"text": "the exception so there are this tree is healthy even in arborist support from", "start": 4808.239, "end": 4813.88}, {"text": "the arborist hired by the property owner the tree indicated as is in good", "start": 4813.88, "end": 4819.32}, {"text": "condition so tree is healthy and maintainable is no other impact to the", "start": 4819.32, "end": 4824.4}, {"text": "ex existing trees for sure it is a if you plant shrubs there or veggies or", "start": 4824.4, "end": 4829.56}, {"text": "something underneath they're going to impact because of the shading and we know that but there are so many noru", "start": 4829.56, "end": 4836.76}, {"text": "maple trees in the city of Toronto that's why the tree policy and tree byw does that exempt them from", "start": 4836.76, "end": 4843.52}, {"text": "the from the byw protection are there other n um Native species that are", "start": 4843.52, "end": 4850.04}, {"text": "compatible that might be more compatible with going in around this area", "start": 4850.04, "end": 4855.199}, {"text": "or you know the the point from the resident around wanting to diversify some of the thing is it possible to do", "start": 4855.199, "end": 4861.48}, {"text": "that without removing the tree but there I don't know exactly the spacing around", "start": 4861.48, "end": 4866.84}, {"text": "could be and it's good to have multiple speeches not just the one monoculture for sure in the future it depends on the", "start": 4866.84, "end": 4874.52}, {"text": "owner right maybe it was a previous owner they were 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max just if you could Mr D thank you for answering", "start": 4923.44, "end": 4929.28}, {"text": "questions if you could just uh clarify for Council and those listening um", "start": 4929.28, "end": 4934.88}, {"text": "staff's hands are fairly tied uh when there's an application to remove a", "start": 4934.88, "end": 4940.76}, {"text": "healthy tree there's very few reasons that you can grant the application to", "start": 4940.76, "end": 4945.92}, {"text": "remove it is that a fair statement that's yeah is fair to say and then the", "start": 4945.92, "end": 4951.44}, {"text": "problem is that if there is other reason let's say to remove that Tre let's say the applicant is going to Committee of", "start": 4951.44, "end": 4957.32}, {"text": "adjustment from Min minor variances still Orban forestry will not support removal but if under the planning act", "start": 4957.32, "end": 4964.159}, {"text": "Committee of adjustment support or Grant the the the final and binding letter for", 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{"text": "Maples Manitoba Maples they can do that right still they're providing benefits is", "start": 5062.239, "end": 5068.76}, {"text": "don't we do not want to forget that those trees even though are invasive they're providing benefits to the", "start": 5068.76, "end": 5075.32}, {"text": "environment and that's happening in city of Toronto more I don't know exactly now the percentage but it's about 50% nor", "start": 5075.32, "end": 5082.36}, {"text": "Maples and Manitoba Maples or other invasive species in Toronto so urban", "start": 5082.36, "end": 5087.8}, {"text": "forestry I believe the policy is not ready yet to remove all of the street", "start": 5087.8, "end": 5093.719}, {"text": "which we may be desire and then go to the next and plant only native", "start": 5093.719, "end": 5099.52}, {"text": "trees take in consideration sorry take in consideration they losing a lot of trees lately because of the past and", "start": 5099.52, "end": 5105.719}, {"text": "disease you know Asian lung horn Beal emal Bor and others you got my next question one more question yes thank you", "start": 5105.719, "end": 5112.679}, {"text": "Vice chair I'll be quick um are there uh are there tree species that are sought", "start": 5112.679, "end": 5118.239}, {"text": "after uh because we've we've lost populations of trees in the city that if", "start": 5118.239, "end": 5124.04}, {"text": "people were having the choice to plant and they could pick anything are there things that are desirable that they be", "start": 5124.04, "end": 5131.04}, {"text": "planted yes there is a list of trees in the city of char about 30 35 speeches", "start": 5131.04, "end": 5136.56}, {"text": "that the owners can choose from that list at the same time the general rule is if", "start": 5136.56, "end": 5142.56}, {"text": "they plant native trees will be good to grow thank you thank you Vice", "start": 5142.56, "end": 5147.719}, {"text": "chair back to you uh are there any other questions to", "start": 5147.719, "end": 5152.92}, {"text": "staff thanks Mr daa um uh members wishing to", "start": 5152.92, "end": 5160.239}, {"text": "speak Deputy Mayor Morley thank you Mr chair um this is a this is a really", "start": 5160.56, "end": 5165.84}, {"text": "tough one and I really appreciate the homeowner being here today and and all of the work and and time that's gone", "start": 5165.84, "end": 5170.92}, {"text": "into this um since taking office almost a year ago um I've been pretty", "start": 5170.92, "end": 5177.199}, {"text": "consistent in my support of our tree canopy and and refusal of um requests to", "start": 5177.199, "end": 5183.719}, {"text": "remove health healthy trees um with a few exceptions um the exceptions being safety um or uh risk of safety if the", "start": 5183.719, "end": 5191.32}, {"text": "tree is um you know leaning towards a home or has some kind of Health um specific consideration this is my first", "start": 5191.32, "end": 5198.04}, {"text": "monoculture concern my first sort of diversity um of trees on the lot uh", "start": 5198.04, "end": 5203.679}, {"text": "issue and unfortunately I am leaning towards um staff recommendations on this", "start": 5203.679, "end": 5210.8}, {"text": "one because we do have a couple of other instances um of trees that again we've", "start": 5210.8, "end": 5216.48}, {"text": "not supported the removal because they are healthy trees an important part of our tree canopy um so that is where I'm", "start": 5216.48, "end": 5222.96}, {"text": "leaning today uh Mr chair and I hate to disappoint but uh I would like to see this tree protected um and something", "start": 5222.96, "end": 5231.239}, {"text": "again I think I need to continue to turn my mind to and and uh further understand but ultimately in a climate crisis um", "start": 5231.239, "end": 5238.4}, {"text": "mature significant sized trees like this one do continue to provide benefit and I think it's important for us to um to", "start": 5238.4, "end": 5245.08}, {"text": "keep that in mind if and when the tree is in Decline I'd be very happy to support a removal um but those are my", "start": 5245.08, "end": 5251.92}, {"text": "comments thank you Mr chair thank you Deputy Mayor any other members wishing to speak seeing none Deputy Mayor moley", "start": 5251.92, "end": 5258.88}, {"text": "moves the staff recommendations all those in favor any", "start": 5258.88, "end": 5266.32}, {"text": "opposed uh correct staff Rex all those in favor any opposed that carries", "start": 5267.6, "end": 5275.36}, {"text": "okay ey 8.5 115 Langdon Avenue request for fence", "start": 5277.44, "end": 5284.8}, {"text": "exemption to the Toronto Municipal Code chapter 447 we have a speaker uh Marco Vieira Marco here", "start": 5284.8, "end": 5295.76}, {"text": "uh Marco Vera uh I hear you're online it's uh Steven holiday uh chair of the toico York Community Council can you", "start": 5305.199, "end": 5311.84}, {"text": "hear", "start": 5311.84, "end": 5314.08}, {"text": "me morning yes I can hear you I we just muted for a little second there all right welcome Marco you've got five", "start": 5317.199, "end": 5323.56}, {"text": "minutes please begin when you're ready thank you so good morning council members my name is marier with epic", "start": 5323.56, "end": 5329.719}, {"text": "designs Inc I'm acting as the agent for Mr Domingos he's also here with me um", "start": 5329.719, "end": 5336.44}, {"text": "and i' just like to take the opportunity to summarize um or go over a couple of", "start": 5336.44, "end": 5341.679}, {"text": "the sticking points with our proposal so the intent here is to keep the existing", "start": 5341.679, "end": 5346.84}, {"text": "uh fence along the east south and west limits of the property line This fence", "start": 5346.84, "end": 5352.639}, {"text": "has been in existence for um approximately 20 years um and we are seeking the exemption for height and", "start": 5352.639, "end": 5360.4}, {"text": "it's close proximity to the water's edge where one side we're asking for 1.09 M", "start": 5360.4, "end": 5366.6}, {"text": "on the other side is 076 M set back to the existing Waters Edge um we do acknowledge that part of", "start": 5366.6, "end": 5374.719}, {"text": "the application also deals with the construction of the uh pool enclosure", "start": 5374.719, "end": 5380.44}, {"text": "which the type of construction used um May create some concerns with regards to", "start": 5380.44, "end": 5385.96}, {"text": "visibility into the uh pool area um and we have met with staff um on site as far", "start": 5385.96, "end": 5393.4}, {"text": "back as last Friday uh to just discuss and look at possible solutions so as an", "start": 5393.4, "end": 5399.44}, {"text": "alternative we came up with with City staff on site was to replace the uh", "start": 5399.44, "end": 5405.119}, {"text": "vertical Boards of the existing pool enclosure fence and replace them with 1", "start": 5405.119, "end": 5411.199}, {"text": "in by 1 in uh vertical pickets that would increase the visibility into the", "start": 5411.199, "end": 5417.199}, {"text": "uh pool area and therefore um not create any adverse impact or um issues with", "start": 5417.199, "end": 5424.239}, {"text": "people being in the pool deck area without having proper visibility the", "start": 5424.239, "end": 5429.639}, {"text": "existing backyard is fully enclosed with fence also with self-latching devices", "start": 5429.639, "end": 5435.8}, {"text": "located on the gates and with spring-loaded um device so that the gates always remain uh closed so we're", "start": 5435.8, "end": 5444.199}, {"text": "asking to you know for the approval your consideration uh to maintain the existing condition um the pool was", "start": 5444.199, "end": 5451.76}, {"text": "previously installed um I believe four years ago to replace an existing above ground pool in the same location uh so", "start": 5451.76, "end": 5459.28}, {"text": "we asked councel for the consideration to um approve this", "start": 5459.28, "end": 5465.48}, {"text": "exemption thank you Mr Vier is that is that everything um three minut counselor I", "start": 5466.119, "end": 5472.52}, {"text": "believe so thank you are there any questions of the", "start": 5472.52, "end": 5480.6}, {"text": "speaker no I'm just wondering why the speak", "start": 5480.6, "end": 5485.92}, {"text": "yeah and I'm sorry sir there there's a question from the gallery but they're not permitted um I had a problem", "start": 5494.48, "end": 5501.44}, {"text": "registering okay did you want to speak on this item yes okay could you see one of the clerk's staff at the back there", "start": 5501.44, "end": 5507.239}, {"text": "we just make sure that we get you registered and we'll welcome you up in just a moment I'll be great", "start": 5507.239, "end": 5515.6}, {"text": "okay uh Mr chair sure um who would like to ask some questions on this item coun", "start": 5527.639, "end": 5534.159}, {"text": "holiday um Mr via it's stepen holiday I had a couple of questions for you could you tell me uh when the pool was built", "start": 5534.159, "end": 5544.04}, {"text": "the pool was built in June of 2020 replacing an old existing above ground", "start": 5544.04, "end": 5550}, {"text": "pool June of 20 who built the pool I believe the homeowner had", "start": 5550, "end": 5556.4}, {"text": "somebody um install this in ground pool was it a pool", "start": 5556.4, "end": 5563.92}, {"text": "contractor yes it was are you able to share who that was with", "start": 5564.28, "end": 5569.56}, {"text": "me uh yes the name of the company is aquadec", "start": 5569.56, "end": 5575}, {"text": "and so that pool was built close to the property line", "start": 5575.84, "end": 5581.119}, {"text": "edges uh that was built so close that it doesn't meet the pool enclosure bylaw is that", "start": 5581.119, "end": 5586.76}, {"text": "correct that is correct did aquadec also do the pool enclosure or how did that", "start": 5586.76, "end": 5593.679}, {"text": "work who was responsible for dealing with the enclosure so the existing pool enclosure", "start": 5593.679, "end": 5600.56}, {"text": "uh was built by the homeowner proxim when he first bought the property 20 years ago so the enclosure which", "start": 5600.56, "end": 5608.199}, {"text": "basically fences in the existing property line on the east west and south side has been in existence for 20 years", "start": 5608.199, "end": 5616.04}, {"text": "with also the previous pool um when it was uh located at the rear of the", "start": 5616.04, "end": 5622.04}, {"text": "property so the pool the inground pool came after okay and so is there a can you", "start": 5622.04, "end": 5630.48}, {"text": "tell us is there a permit required to build a pool like a construction permit in your", "start": 5630.48, "end": 5637.56}, {"text": "experience I believe I believe you don't require a construction permit for a pool but you do require a pool enclosure uh", "start": 5637.56, "end": 5645.239}, {"text": "permit um and that was you know something that was conveyed to the homeowner that it wasn't going to be", "start": 5645.239, "end": 5651.56}, {"text": "needed because he's got an existing fence that was there um but they were not aware of the BW requirements to", "start": 5651.56, "end": 5658}, {"text": "ensure that this new pool going in would have to be 1.2 meters away from the um", "start": 5658, "end": 5664.719}, {"text": "enclosure as opposed to taking the measurements from the property line do you know was aquadec aware or was it the", "start": 5664.719, "end": 5672.679}, {"text": "homeowner that wasn't aware um the homeowner wasn't aware I am not sure if aquadec wasn't I'm assuming", "start": 5672.679, "end": 5679.28}, {"text": "they would be uh if that's what they do do you know what which days the", "start": 5679.28, "end": 5684.32}, {"text": "construction were in June um not the exact dates I know that", "start": 5684.32, "end": 5690.32}, {"text": "it was started in June we've got proof of when the liner was being applied in", "start": 5690.32, "end": 5695.6}, {"text": "August but it originally started um sometime in June do you know if it was", "start": 5695.6, "end": 5700.92}, {"text": "during stage one or stage two of the province's um um emergency", "start": 5700.92, "end": 5709.8}, {"text": "plans I'm not um sure I'm not aware of that fair enough I didn't have any other", "start": 5709.84, "end": 5715.119}, {"text": "questions thank you yeah you you were down almost to your last question since the the clock didn't start just the same", "start": 5715.119, "end": 5722.44}, {"text": "sure thank you Vice chair pass it back to you thank you Vice chair uh are there any other questions", "start": 5722.44, "end": 5729.44}, {"text": "of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us Mr viea um we have additional", "start": 5729.44, "end": 5736}, {"text": "speaker registered just bear with me here as I", "start": 5736, "end": 5741.76}, {"text": "get these systems set up uh uh Mr David King", "start": 5741.76, "end": 5748.52}, {"text": "good morning my name is David King King I tried to register but I had it", "start": 5755.679, "end": 5762.6}, {"text": "difficulties I have now registered got you great uh welcome to the ECC please", "start": 5762.6, "end": 5768.08}, {"text": "uh you have five minutes please begin when you're ready I'm the ab budding homeowner for the rear of the property", "start": 5768.08, "end": 5775.239}, {"text": "and the first thing I'd like to do is dispute something that the previous owner said the fence that separates the", "start": 5775.239, "end": 5781.119}, {"text": "rear of my property from the rear of the property in question was not the fence that was there when the current pool was", "start": 5781.119, "end": 5787.84}, {"text": "built there's a chain link fence there the remnants of that fence still exist", "start": 5787.84, "end": 5792.92}, {"text": "if somebody wants to come and inspect it I've been arguing this through various", "start": 5792.92, "end": 5798.76}, {"text": "people since about July the 8th 2020 when I discovered what was going", "start": 5798.76, "end": 5805.8}, {"text": "on I I have the report for action and I'd like to", "start": 5806.4, "end": 5812.6}, {"text": "start out by saying on page two the recommendations is the way I feel on this", "start": 5812.6, "end": 5820.119}, {"text": "matter that the refuse the application and I'd like to highlight the pieces of", "start": 5820.119, "end": 5826.52}, {"text": "the report that makes me feel that way there's four items that are", "start": 5826.52, "end": 5835.119}, {"text": "non-compliance they're mainly relating to the height of the fence and the", "start": 5837.48, "end": 5843.08}, {"text": "distance of the fence from the surface of the water which is quite clear in the", "start": 5843.08, "end": 5850.679}, {"text": "bylaw 447 the variances are not", "start": 5850.679, "end": 5856.84}, {"text": "insignificant in one case it's almost 50% Too", "start": 5856.84, "end": 5862.519}, {"text": "Close For example it should be 1.2 M and", "start": 5865.04, "end": 5870.08}, {"text": "one of them one of the edges is 76 yes I realize that's more than 50% but it's", "start": 5870.08, "end": 5877.04}, {"text": "it's not insignificant these are all for safety reasons so that if somebody falls", "start": 5877.04, "end": 5882.56}, {"text": "off the fence they don't land in the uh the", "start": 5882.56, "end": 5887.88}, {"text": "Water the it says the property currently has a", "start": 5887.88, "end": 5895.84}, {"text": "charge before the courts from September 16th 2020 so this is more than three", "start": 5895.84, "end": 5901.159}, {"text": "years ago this has been the city's been aware of what's been going on here I I understand it takes a while for these", "start": 5901.159, "end": 5907.52}, {"text": "things to to come to light but so be it so it's not me saying", "start": 5907.52, "end": 5914.88}, {"text": "I've been dealing with this for a long time the city's known about this since at least SE September 16th 2020 and I", "start": 5914.88, "end": 5922.679}, {"text": "have records saying it was about July the 8th or 9th when the city became aware of what was going on when I first", "start": 5922.679, "end": 5929.28}, {"text": "contacted them via email", "start": 5929.28, "end": 5933.8}, {"text": "going to page five of the report the applicant is requesting the exemption", "start": 5937, "end": 5943.8}, {"text": "for their privacy and security well how about everybody else who has a a a", "start": 5943.8, "end": 5949}, {"text": "complying pool fence and the alternate is not feasible because the rear abiding", "start": 5949, "end": 5956.28}, {"text": "fence is within a few centimeters of the property line already the side fences", "start": 5956.28, "end": 5962.52}, {"text": "are right on the property line so there's no way that a fence can be moved away my suggestion being rather flippant", "start": 5962.52, "end": 5971.199}, {"text": "would be move the pool which you can't do because it's poured concrete but you could pour new concrete inside the", "start": 5971.199, "end": 5978.32}, {"text": "existing pool to make the water surface compliant with the PW which would be", "start": 5978.32, "end": 5984.119}, {"text": "what my suggestion is leave what's there put more add more concrete to to make a", "start": 5984.119, "end": 5990.199}, {"text": "they call it a pool deck that puts the water surface 1.2 M from the fence I", "start": 5990.199, "end": 5996.719}, {"text": "completely disagree with the fence being allowed to be over height when I built my fence I had no trouble finding that", "start": 5996.719, "end": 6005}, {"text": "the uh kind of fence in a in a neighborhood backyard can't be higher", "start": 6005, "end": 6010.639}, {"text": "than 2 meters and and I don't understand why this applicant thinks he can suddenly go two MERS plus another 2third", "start": 6010.639, "end": 6019.28}, {"text": "of a meter thank you thank you we just hang on a moment", "start": 6019.28, "end": 6024.92}, {"text": "are there any questions of the speaker yeah I just what was your what was your address again one three sorry 1", "start": 6024.92, "end": 6034.84}, {"text": "32 cordella Avenue oh you live on cordella okay yes yeah okay thanks I", "start": 6034.84, "end": 6040.28}, {"text": "just didn't get it when you uh I didn't sorry I didn't say it AB buts 115 at the", "start": 6040.28, "end": 6045.8}, {"text": "rear yes exactly yeah I know it's just I didn't hear you when you came forward on your I didn't give my address sorry okay", "start": 6045.8, "end": 6054.56}, {"text": "um thank you may I uh ask if you're done are you done can I ask a question yeah", "start": 6054.56, "end": 6059.84}, {"text": "go ahead do you want me to stay here or yeah if you can it's it's fairly", "start": 6059.84, "end": 6065.32}, {"text": "straightforward um I've got I'm looking at aerial pictures on my screen as you're talking and there's this massive", "start": 6065.32, "end": 6073.639}, {"text": "tree that was there in 2018 yes I can't tell where it is and", "start": 6073.639, "end": 6080.48}, {"text": "then now gone on the 2020 and 2020 2021 sorry it's it's gone on the 2021", "start": 6080.48, "end": 6087}, {"text": "imagery not on the 2021 well that's what started my investigation as to what was", "start": 6087, "end": 6092.599}, {"text": "going on here on approximately July the 8th the tree fell down and went through my garage roof an investigation by the", "start": 6092.599, "end": 6101}, {"text": "ARP that came to remove the tree was that somebody had cut off the main Roots right at the property", "start": 6101, "end": 6107.04}, {"text": "line um at that point I called Toronto forestry to come and look at it around", "start": 6107.04, "end": 6114.36}, {"text": "July 10th to the 20th somewhere in that an inspector came and looked at it", "start": 6114.36, "end": 6120.76}, {"text": "wouldn't give me an opinion as to what had gone on but in my biased opinion it", "start": 6120.76, "end": 6126.119}, {"text": "was quite clear somebody had cut the roots right at the property line down to a a depth of about 5T and the tree fell", "start": 6126.119, "end": 6133.04}, {"text": "down the tree was 40 to 50 feet so nonmetric in height with a very large", "start": 6133.04, "end": 6140.719}, {"text": "canopy was the tree part of the work around the fence or was it set I can't", "start": 6140.719, "end": 6147.159}, {"text": "tell was it it was right on the fence line and part of the fence is still", "start": 6147.159, "end": 6152.28}, {"text": "visible in the remaining stump so the the but the tree didn't", "start": 6152.28, "end": 6157.56}, {"text": "have to do with the change over of the fence or is that the original fence that's there that fence was there when I", "start": 6157.56, "end": 6163.04}, {"text": "moved in 40 years ago and it still there or did it get changed the chain link fence I've left pending resolution but", "start": 6163.04, "end": 6171.159}, {"text": "the ab budding property owner has built a new wooden fence just in Board of on", "start": 6171.159, "end": 6177.36}, {"text": "his side of the property line and again because I have aerial imagery y I think you said it someone", "start": 6177.36, "end": 6185.56}, {"text": "said there was an above ground pool there yes which was hard to see because of the tree and like if you if you went", "start": 6185.56, "end": 6193.04}, {"text": "had if this was July the 10th 2020 and you looked at the aerial view on Google", "start": 6193.04, "end": 6198.599}, {"text": "Maps it's hard to see the pool unless you know you're looking for it because of the size of the the tree so so it was", "start": 6198.599, "end": 6205.679}, {"text": "an above ground pool and switched to a below ground pool yes and and and that's", "start": 6205.679, "end": 6210.719}, {"text": "also an issue but it's not gerain to this discussion okay I just it's hard", "start": 6210.719, "end": 6215.92}, {"text": "for me like because you have the local knowledge it's hard for me to understand so thank you liveed there 40 years yeah", "start": 6215.92, "end": 6221.119}, {"text": "thank you for answering so do you have all the pictures that are in the report uh we do yeah no is that what you're", "start": 6221.119, "end": 6226.84}, {"text": "looking at well I'm looking at an aerial picture so that's I was I just wanted to ask those questions okay um are there um", "start": 6226.84, "end": 6235.36}, {"text": "I'm done questions I'll just check are there any other questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us", "start": 6235.36, "end": 6241.719}, {"text": "thank you are there any other speakers on this item seeing none um I will say ask if", "start": 6241.719, "end": 6249.44}, {"text": "there's questions to staff yes if I can bring staff forward thank you and thank you uh for", "start": 6249.44, "end": 6258}, {"text": "the deput for being here okay so if you can just give us a a", "start": 6258, "end": 6264.52}, {"text": "history on on this application as well and there's an outstanding charge it's", "start": 6264.52, "end": 6269.719}, {"text": "my understanding that's uh going through the courts very shortly yeah so good morning chair and", "start": 6269.719, "end": 6276.199}, {"text": "Council my name is Shantel corm I'm a supervisor for the West District Investigation Services team uh from", "start": 6276.199, "end": 6282.52}, {"text": "Municipal licensing and standards so we received this complaint it was actually a referral I believe either from urban", "start": 6282.52, "end": 6288.48}, {"text": "forestry or trono buildings um in 2020 uh there is I'll start off by saying", "start": 6288.48, "end": 6294.84}, {"text": "there is an active charge before the courts uh so I can't speak too much on that um but the notice of violation was", "start": 6294.84, "end": 6304.199}, {"text": "issued in September of 2020 for pool enclosure no permit uh there was no never a permit that was obtained by the", "start": 6304.199, "end": 6310.639}, {"text": "property owner um the owner confirmed with the officer who went out there that", "start": 6310.639, "end": 6315.8}, {"text": "the pool was built in 2012 uh did not mention that the pool", "start": 6315.8, "end": 6321.28}, {"text": "was an above ground pool um it was kind of insinuated that the pool that was", "start": 6321.28, "end": 6327.56}, {"text": "existing had been there since 2012 um and then in October 2021 there was a", "start": 6327.56, "end": 6333.04}, {"text": "zoning folder open for a uh zoning certificate regarding the pool however", "start": 6333.04, "end": 6339.04}, {"text": "there was no response received from the applicant so the file was closed by I", "start": 6339.04, "end": 6344.92}, {"text": "believe the zoning department or Toronto buildings in November of 2021 and in March of 2022 so 2 years", "start": 6344.92, "end": 6353.28}, {"text": "after we received the file there was still no permit application in therefore", "start": 6353.28, "end": 6359.4}, {"text": "the officer laid the charge um and then in November of", "start": 6359.4, "end": 6364.8}, {"text": "2022 the zoning folder was opened in relation to a pool permit", "start": 6364.8, "end": 6371.719}, {"text": "application okay um as far as the tree that councel holiday do you have any", "start": 6372.679, "end": 6379.239}, {"text": "information on the tree through you chair counselor I do not that would have been through an urban", "start": 6379.239, "end": 6385.76}, {"text": "forestry and I believe he slept yeah fer okay I think Max is", "start": 6385.76, "end": 6393.36}, {"text": "left yeah he left yeah is there any way we can get", "start": 6394.44, "end": 6400.04}, {"text": "him back GES um so just um just a question", "start": 6400.04, "end": 6405.639}, {"text": "to to you um so the so there is a violation so if", "start": 6405.639, "end": 6413.4}, {"text": "if uh if we um refuse this application", "start": 6413.4, "end": 6418.679}, {"text": "tomorrow I mean today what happens to the violation through you chair um the", "start": 6418.679, "end": 6425.159}, {"text": "violation will still stand so if the application is refused um the violation", "start": 6425.159, "end": 6430.88}, {"text": "would still be there with no exemption so we would go forth with either telling the property owner that the pool", "start": 6430.88, "end": 6438.08}, {"text": "enclosure needs to be rectified and brought up to the requirements of the bylaw um", "start": 6438.08, "end": 6443.96}, {"text": "um I mean inevitably if somebody just refuses to do the work that's needed to", "start": 6443.96, "end": 6449.32}, {"text": "be done to bring the property into compliance uh that's when it would end", "start": 6449.32, "end": 6454.48}, {"text": "up before the courts um it's kind of up to the property owner to make the adjustments to bring them into", "start": 6454.48, "end": 6461.119}, {"text": "compliance I will say on the just to note on the original exemption", "start": 6461.119, "end": 6466.28}, {"text": "application there was only note of the height and the setback um when I was", "start": 6466.28, "end": 6473.4}, {"text": "reviewing the application and the officer's notes I noticed that the visibility and the climbability which", "start": 6473.4, "end": 6479.119}, {"text": "wasn't mentioned um by the applicant or um Mr King that I saw the barbecue as a", "start": 6479.119, "end": 6486.92}, {"text": "climbability aspect as well so the application sorry the exemption is for more than just what's noted on the uh by", "start": 6486.92, "end": 6495.4}, {"text": "the applicant okay so looking at your report and as the deput mentioned um", "start": 6495.4, "end": 6503.36}, {"text": "the there was a violation that was issued in 2020 right so we're in 2023", "start": 6503.36, "end": 6509.56}, {"text": "now so this actually can go on for quite a while um for the applicant to uh uh to", "start": 6509.56, "end": 6517.84}, {"text": "respond to the city on meeting the requirements am I correct through you", "start": 6517.84, "end": 6523.239}, {"text": "chair yes uh unfortunately due to the pandemic we were redistributed in 2020", "start": 6523.239, "end": 6529.48}, {"text": "so we were not um doing a lot of Property Standards responses so that", "start": 6529.48, "end": 6535.56}, {"text": "might have had something to do with it but uh initially yeah the complaint came in in 2020 but the the exemption is for", "start": 6535.56, "end": 6544.04}, {"text": "the actual enclosure the notice of violation that was issued was for the um", "start": 6544.04, "end": 6550.159}, {"text": "fact that there was no permit at all so right now there's no notice of violation for those deficiencies we're kind of", "start": 6550.159, "end": 6556.84}, {"text": "waiting the outcome of this council meeting to determine if the exemption goes through then no need for notice of", "start": 6556.84, "end": 6562.28}, {"text": "violation if it doesn't go through then we would act on that and issue a notice of violation for those deficiencies to", "start": 6562.28, "end": 6567.719}, {"text": "get rectified okay thank", "start": 6567.719, "end": 6571.84}, {"text": "you any other questions of Staff seeing none um", "start": 6573.159, "end": 6579.719}, {"text": "gu um do you want to hold it down", "start": 6579.719, "end": 6585.88}, {"text": "okay um to speak councelor", "start": 6585.88, "end": 6590.32}, {"text": "nun thank Q um so what I'm going to be moving is", "start": 6591.4, "end": 6597}, {"text": "the staff recommendation to refuse the application", "start": 6597, "end": 6602.76}, {"text": "councel nunzi Adam M a staff recommendation yeah so I mean listening to the deput and um you know um to", "start": 6602.76, "end": 6610.48}, {"text": "realize that actually this the order uh was in 2020 and we're 2023 now and that", "start": 6610.48, "end": 6618.96}, {"text": "has not been resolved now the um uh I I never even received a call from the", "start": 6618.96, "end": 6626.44}, {"text": "property owner I did receive a call from the agent just a few days before Community Council um and uh I have I've", "start": 6626.44, "end": 6634.96}, {"text": "not received a call from the owner at all uh so really disturbs me", "start": 6634.96, "end": 6640.32}, {"text": "when uh we have um uh residents or applicants that do um build things and", "start": 6640.32, "end": 6648.48}, {"text": "build pools in that without a permit and then come to us later on ask asking okay can you exemp me and can you allow us", "start": 6648.48, "end": 6656.079}, {"text": "and you know I I I don't agree with that at all it's very disturbing to me when that happens um so that's why I'm moving", "start": 6656.079, "end": 6664.119}, {"text": "to refuse the application and I want to thank the deput temp for being here um", "start": 6664.119, "end": 6670.36}, {"text": "um and uh so hopefully now that we move this um the city staff could move", "start": 6670.36, "end": 6675.92}, {"text": "forward on whatever issues are outstanding at uh at this address thank you", "start": 6675.92, "end": 6682.96}, {"text": "uh councelor nunzi moves the staff recommendations all those in favor any opposed that", "start": 6682.96, "end": 6689.04}, {"text": "carries okay uh we are now on uh ey", "start": 6689.04, "end": 6695}, {"text": "8.6 eyy 8.6 is 272 Gary Drive request for offense exemption to the Toronto", "start": 6697.28, "end": 6703.56}, {"text": "Municipal Code chapter 447 uh there is a speaker registered uh", "start": 6703.56, "end": 6709.4}, {"text": "Scott muso is Scott available in the chamber or", "start": 6709.4, "end": 6714.96}, {"text": "online uh Scott welcome to the uto York Community Council um you have five", "start": 6714.96, "end": 6720.8}, {"text": "minutes to speak please begin when you're ready good morning everyone my name is", "start": 6720.8, "end": 6726.159}, {"text": "Scott muso along with my wife Rita we live at 272 Gary Drive we are here today", "start": 6726.159, "end": 6732}, {"text": "to ask for an exemption to the city bylaw and to request a permit for an 8T", "start": 6732, "end": 6738}, {"text": "solid wood fence the fence will be 8 ft High and will run approximately 60 ft", "start": 6738, "end": 6744.96}, {"text": "along the east side of our property and will be completely private it will be on", "start": 6744.96, "end": 6750.28}, {"text": "our side of the property line the contractor will do the entire job on our side of the property and will at no time", "start": 6750.28, "end": 6758.079}, {"text": "have any access to the property at 270 Gary Drive we have had many acts of v um", "start": 6758.079, "end": 6766.32}, {"text": "vandalism and property damage throughout the years and have also spent a lot of", "start": 6766.32, "end": 6772.52}, {"text": "of money replacing plants and flowers that were either damaged destroyed or removed we also have installed security", "start": 6772.52, "end": 6780}, {"text": "cameras which were also destroyed when a weapon was fired from a window at 270", "start": 6780, "end": 6786}, {"text": "Gary over the existing 6-t chain length fence we feel that the solid wood 8ft", "start": 6786, "end": 6795.239}, {"text": "fence would not only provide us with Safety and Security but also give us a peace of", "start": 6795.239, "end": 6800.84}, {"text": "mind the east side pathway is the only access to the backyard otherwi or except", "start": 6800.84, "end": 6807.639}, {"text": "for through the garage we are concerned when walking along the pathway between", "start": 6807.639, "end": 6812.88}, {"text": "the two houses as we don't feel safe please consider the situation and", "start": 6812.88, "end": 6817.96}, {"text": "hopefully you will provide us with the exemption for the permit thank you for your time thank you Scott are there any", "start": 6817.96, "end": 6825.04}, {"text": "questions of the speaker yes I do coun V so this has been going on for quite a", "start": 6825.04, "end": 6831.4}, {"text": "few years yeah right yes um but ongoing issue uh We've", "start": 6831.4, "end": 6837.48}, {"text": "contacted City staff many many times on this one and it looks like uh the", "start": 6837.48, "end": 6843.4}, {"text": "neighbor continues to to harass and do nothing on on property um", "start": 6843.4, "end": 6851.159}, {"text": "2014 right this has been an ongoing issue um so", "start": 6851.159, "end": 6857.679}, {"text": "um yeah I'm I'm glad that um it's actually here on Community Council um", "start": 6858, "end": 6864.96}, {"text": "and uh hopefully this will resolve some of the issues that you're having with your neighbor um because I've been out", "start": 6864.96, "end": 6871.599}, {"text": "there personally and uh been harassed as well from your neighbor as you know", "start": 6871.599, "end": 6876.92}, {"text": "right over the years so thank you very much for being here thank you any other", "start": 6876.92, "end": 6882.719}, {"text": "questions see none uh any other speakers to this matter seeing none uh questions of", "start": 6882.719, "end": 6889.84}, {"text": "Staff seeing none councelor nunzi speak yes so I'll move um to Grant the uh the", "start": 6889.84, "end": 6898.4}, {"text": "application um we put the there it is on the screen to Grant the", "start": 6898.4, "end": 6905.84}, {"text": "exception um as as I mentioned um yeah this has been an ongoing issue where", "start": 6905.84, "end": 6911.04}, {"text": "this neighbor started doing work on the house uh in", "start": 6911.04, "end": 6916.8}, {"text": "2014 and has been um uh harassing the", "start": 6916.8, "end": 6921.88}, {"text": "neighbor um for the past 10 years um and even City staff when City staff has gone out", "start": 6921.88, "end": 6928.679}, {"text": "there um on a complaint and uh so um you", "start": 6928.679, "end": 6934}, {"text": "know it just actually surprises me in Council holiday and I were talking about", "start": 6934, "end": 6939.32}, {"text": "it this morning how somebody can have a building permit and have it outstanding", "start": 6939.32, "end": 6944.44}, {"text": "for almost 10 years and as long as he puts a nail uh hammers a nail in it's", "start": 6944.44, "end": 6950.079}, {"text": "still active and there's absolutely nothing that we could do which is frustrating uh for me and for the", "start": 6950.079, "end": 6956.679}, {"text": "Neighbors around because they have to they have to go through that for many years and uh I think there I think we", "start": 6956.679, "end": 6963.28}, {"text": "need to change that I know it's provincial but you know I have a lot of those in my w and so and and I know the", "start": 6963.28, "end": 6970.36}, {"text": "neighbors have been going through a lot of frustration uh over the years so I I will uh Grant the exception and thank", "start": 6970.36, "end": 6977.8}, {"text": "you very much for being here thank you thank you thank you uh councelor nunzi", "start": 6977.8, "end": 6983.639}, {"text": "moves to Grant the exemption all those in favor any opposed that item carries", "start": 6983.639, "end": 6988.84}, {"text": "thank you for joining us thank you very", "start": 6988.84, "end": 6992}, {"text": "much I'm just checking because I lost my screen here", "start": 7002.719, "end": 7008.719}, {"text": "thank you madam clerk um councelor uh perut issued a letter to community council to add new business uh I'll just", "start": 7015.159, "end": 7022.719}, {"text": "place a motion here to add new business all those in favor any opposed that item is carried that item is now on the", "start": 7022.719, "end": 7030.239}, {"text": "agenda uh I guess I should describe the item it's uh parking uh changes to", "start": 7030.239, "end": 7036.4}, {"text": "parking uh parking rules okay uh ey 8. 8 8 golf Crest Road", "start": 7036.4, "end": 7043.76}, {"text": "request for offense exemption to the Toronto Municipal Code chapter 447 also a quick thank you to everyone", "start": 7043.76, "end": 7049.32}, {"text": "who's been waiting patiently I know there's still a lot of speakers uh we're down to three items uh the first speaker", "start": 7049.32, "end": 7055.76}, {"text": "is David hernick uh David is indicated as being online hi David it's stepen Holliday the", "start": 7055.76, "end": 7062.599}, {"text": "chair of the Cho York Community Council can you hear me okay yes I can see you all right uh", "start": 7062.599, "end": 7069.599}, {"text": "welcome to the community council uh you have five minutes to speak uh you may begin when you're", "start": 7069.599, "end": 7075.119}, {"text": "ready thank you thank you counselors uh we appreciate the opportunity to comment", "start": 7075.119, "end": 7080.88}, {"text": "on this item we believe that we uh covered the reasons we object to the", "start": 7080.88, "end": 7087.32}, {"text": "fence height exemption in the comments we submitted on October the 13th we", "start": 7087.32, "end": 7093.76}, {"text": "wanted to appear today in order to PR permit you uh with the chance to ask us", "start": 7093.76, "end": 7100.36}, {"text": "questions on those comments", "start": 7100.36, "end": 7104.118}, {"text": "uh was that everything David yes it is thank you uh great um thank you for joining us today um are", "start": 7107.8, "end": 7115.119}, {"text": "there any questions of the speaker seeing none uh maybe I'll just", "start": 7115.119, "end": 7121.119}, {"text": "add a very quick question can you just clarify uh in relation to where you live", "start": 7121.119, "end": 7126.84}, {"text": "in relation to this particular application and uh I think you said you", "start": 7126.84, "end": 7132.239}, {"text": "didn't support it correct um we are at number six golf", "start": 7132.239, "end": 7137.84}, {"text": "Crest the property owner is at number eight golf Crest and the fence in", "start": 7137.84, "end": 7145.36}, {"text": "question is on the property line between number eight and number", "start": 7145.36, "end": 7152.48}, {"text": "10 great thank you any other questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us today David um the next", "start": 7152.48, "end": 7160.4}, {"text": "speaker I have uh register for this is uh bodan pahuta I pronounce that", "start": 7160.4, "end": 7169.92}, {"text": "correctly uh welcome to the tobaco York Community Council bodan um please join", "start": 7169.92, "end": 7175.8}, {"text": "us at the front um you have five minutes to speak and you may begin when you're", "start": 7175.8, "end": 7182.159}, {"text": "ready uh thank you uh well good morning Mr chairman and counselors uh you've", "start": 7182.44, "end": 7189.28}, {"text": "already received our submission uh about it last week about our objection to the", "start": 7189.28, "end": 7196.639}, {"text": "uh golf CR or number eight golf Crest exemption application and I came here today to", "start": 7196.639, "end": 7203.719}, {"text": "give you a brief summary of our position and be able to answer any questions", "start": 7203.719, "end": 7209.599}, {"text": "people may have um generally as taxpayers we hope and expect City", "start": 7209.599, "end": 7217}, {"text": "municipal licensing and Council follow the bylaws and if necessary are have the", "start": 7217, "end": 7224.44}, {"text": "power to make reasonable decisions if a bylaw does not fit a problem uh we we try to conduct", "start": 7224.44, "end": 7232.32}, {"text": "ourselves in accordance with bylaws and we expect our neighbors to do that also", "start": 7232.32, "end": 7237.96}, {"text": "uh just as we don't want off fence that we calculated to be 10 in too high which", "start": 7237.96, "end": 7244.04}, {"text": "is congruent with what Metro a municipal Municipal and Licensing calculated", "start": 7244.04, "end": 7250.44}, {"text": "number eight doesn't want def fence that would be 10 in too low either so to", "start": 7250.44, "end": 7257.119}, {"text": "allow everybody to enjoy their properties if neighbors don't get along", "start": 7257.119, "end": 7262.44}, {"text": "and in this case we don't uh following imp paral evenhanded rules and", "start": 7262.44, "end": 7270.4}, {"text": "regulations allows everybody to live peacefully within the community and enjoy their own", "start": 7270.4, "end": 7276.84}, {"text": "property um I hope that the submission we made last week uh is is clear to you", "start": 7276.84, "end": 7283.56}, {"text": "and as I say if you have any questions I'm happy to uh try to address them now", "start": 7283.56, "end": 7289.079}, {"text": "but in in short uh we want number eight", "start": 7289.079, "end": 7294.239}, {"text": "to follow the bylaws fix their sents F fix their fence and uh make the the fence secure", "start": 7294.239, "end": 7304.32}, {"text": "and private uh right now it's 10 in too high an easy fix is to remove the top", "start": 7304.32, "end": 7311.32}, {"text": "three board of the fence that was constructed and this will and cut back", "start": 7311.32, "end": 7317.719}, {"text": "the uh fence posts which even are higher than that and by removing that the", "start": 7317.719, "end": 7324.76}, {"text": "variants will be corrected um one additional ask that I", "start": 7324.76, "end": 7330.92}, {"text": "had but uh from what I understand uh it's not the prerogative of the council to", "start": 7330.92, "end": 7338.88}, {"text": "deal with it so I'll put it you know given the C reason I'll put it on our Christmas wish list is for number eight", "start": 7338.88, "end": 7345.84}, {"text": "to correct a large gap at the bottom of the fence which allows pests and and", "start": 7345.84, "end": 7352.84}, {"text": "skunks to pass through um if we need to we'll fix that but uh living in a", "start": 7352.84, "end": 7359.679}, {"text": "neighborhood one would hope that the the people that put up the fence would do", "start": 7359.679, "end": 7364.8}, {"text": "that uh so that is what I wanted to cover with everybody and if there are", "start": 7364.8, "end": 7372.159}, {"text": "any questions I I I would I'd like to answer them now thank you um May I pass the chair Mr", "start": 7372.159, "end": 7380}, {"text": "Vice chair uh Council holiday question chair", "start": 7380, "end": 7386.4}, {"text": "um thank you if I made just a couple of questions what's your relationship to", "start": 7386.4, "end": 7392.4}, {"text": "the fence okay well we're on the direct boundary we're at number 10 the fence is", "start": 7392.4, "end": 7398.119}, {"text": "put up between number 10 and number eight by by number eight by number eight", "start": 7398.119, "end": 7404.04}, {"text": "okay and um just for the benefit of my colleagues on community council can you", "start": 7404.04, "end": 7409.88}, {"text": "describe what the fence looks like like it's construction style is it wood is it vertical horizontal that sort of thing", "start": 7409.88, "end": 7416.719}, {"text": "um it's a vertical board fence with", "start": 7416.719, "end": 7422.36}, {"text": "three horizontal boards on top that raise it even higher it's actually a very nice", "start": 7422.36, "end": 7429.199}, {"text": "fence um you know before we had a secure and private fence too we had a chain", "start": 7429.199, "end": 7434.92}, {"text": "link fence with Hedges and shrubs on both sides number8 removed their shrubs", "start": 7434.92, "end": 7441.4}, {"text": "and hedges and and then were complaining that they had no privacy which existed", "start": 7441.4, "end": 7447.32}, {"text": "before all that but regardless you know people can put up whatever fences they want we just want people to follow the", "start": 7447.32, "end": 7455.52}, {"text": "bylaws okay so you mentioned you were concerned with a gap at the bottom um but I think my colleagues know we don't", "start": 7455.52, "end": 7462.599}, {"text": "regulate that uh are you otherwise sorry you said the three boards the top you object to because", "start": 7462.599, "end": 7469.76}, {"text": "that adds height to the fence are you otherwise okay with the vertical board part of the fence oh yes yeah it may be", "start": 7469.76, "end": 7478.04}, {"text": "a bit over here and there but it may be over under but generally it's those top", "start": 7478.04, "end": 7483.639}, {"text": "three boards that are the issue great thank you very much for clarifying um", "start": 7483.639, "end": 7489.679}, {"text": "I'll take the chair back but I appreciate you speaking to us today thank you thank you thank you oh by all", "start": 7489.679, "end": 7497.96}, {"text": "means I I just so so the the fence is um at 10 inches higher than what the bylaw", "start": 7497.96, "end": 7505.079}, {"text": "permits and um do you know why the fence was built higher is it a private are the", "start": 7505.079, "end": 7512.44}, {"text": "grades constant there are they flat is uh the the grade is gently sloping", "start": 7512.44, "end": 7520.159}, {"text": "from west to east on that part of golf Crest okay so so if the bylaw permitted", "start": 7520.159, "end": 7526.8}, {"text": "a fence 10 10 in higher you would be okay with the fence says", "start": 7526.8, "end": 7532.559}, {"text": "is well my intent is to comply with bylaws you basically said so if if", "start": 7532.559, "end": 7540.119}, {"text": "the um the rules are I think it's um what's the height the maximum height 66", "start": 7540.119, "end": 7547.159}, {"text": "two met 6 two me yeah so it would be six 66 um so if the if we added 10 inches to", "start": 7547.159, "end": 7555.4}, {"text": "the bylaw you would be okay with the fence my intent and goal is to live in a", "start": 7555.4, "end": 7562.719}, {"text": "tobico and follow the rules no no I I I I realize that one of the reasons why", "start": 7562.719, "end": 7567.92}, {"text": "people are able to come before this council is because as you know bylaws", "start": 7567.92, "end": 7574.92}, {"text": "don't capture each and every situation right um all our individual", "start": 7574.92, "end": 7581.76}, {"text": "our individual needs and our individual desires sometimes are not you know", "start": 7581.76, "end": 7587.88}, {"text": "there's no constant built into that so we write a bylaw you you try to give", "start": 7587.88, "end": 7593.599}, {"text": "that bylaw um you know you you try to write it in a way that says okay you", "start": 7593.599, "end": 7598.88}, {"text": "know what 66 in most cases you know especially if grades are", "start": 7598.88, "end": 7604.96}, {"text": "are level right there is no gradient differences between the properties me inter", "start": 7604.96, "end": 7612.679}, {"text": "let me just finish with my question okay 66 in that instance would provide both", "start": 7612.679, "end": 7619.719}, {"text": "properties um AB budding that fence yours in this case and number eight um", "start": 7619.719, "end": 7626.4}, {"text": "would provide privacy for both of you uh if we had decided uh to to", "start": 7626.4, "end": 7633.8}, {"text": "basically um you know add some so one of the reasons people are able to come here", "start": 7633.8, "end": 7639.48}, {"text": "is ask us to vary those rules rules so in this instance they want an exemption to that", "start": 7639.48, "end": 7646.639}, {"text": "rule they want to say look we understand that your bylaw six says 6'6 but we", "start": 7646.639, "end": 7652.4}, {"text": "don't agree with that we would like it 610 here at our at our particular property right like Committee of", "start": 7652.4, "end": 7660.199}, {"text": "adjustment for example variances you have bylaws and then you you you have a", "start": 7660.199, "end": 7666.639}, {"text": "process to vary those rules so you're objecting to the variance here as well", "start": 7666.639, "end": 7673.44}, {"text": "I am objecting to the variance uh to your point the the", "start": 7673.44, "end": 7679.28}, {"text": "because the fense is then too high or or does it not meet the the the the bylaw", "start": 7679.28, "end": 7684.719}, {"text": "standard well may I'm sorry I may not understand your question", "start": 7684.719, "end": 7691.159}, {"text": "because I if the given is the bylaw and if I want to accept the bylaw as a", "start": 7691.159, "end": 7698.559}, {"text": "resident of a tooco that means six six so I I don't think personal", "start": 7698.559, "end": 7706.36}, {"text": "preference really has anything to do with that bylaw I I understand there could be an", "start": 7706.36, "end": 7714}, {"text": "exemption but they do have a secure private fence and it still would be at", "start": 7714, "end": 7722.159}, {"text": "66 sorry I'm I may not be understanding your your question or or concern", "start": 7724.04, "end": 7730.599}, {"text": "properly the argument you made was that the bylaw", "start": 7730.599, "end": 7737.559}, {"text": "and and I just wanted to get some clarity in my own brain that U that the argument you made", "start": 7737.559, "end": 7743.88}, {"text": "was that the bylaw says 6'6 right this exceeds that", "start": 7743.88, "end": 7750.44}, {"text": "bylaw one of the things that people are able to come before this Council uh in and ask is to create", "start": 7750.44, "end": 7759.32}, {"text": "exemptions or variances to the bylaws right because bylaws don't necessarily", "start": 7759.32, "end": 7767}, {"text": "fit each and every case so my question to you was if the bylaw added those", "start": 7767, "end": 7774.84}, {"text": "those 10 inches then you wouldn't be here today you'd be okay with the fence 10 inches", "start": 7774.84, "end": 7781.079}, {"text": "higher once again I I accept what the rules are my neighbor did not", "start": 7781.079, "end": 7788.76}, {"text": "okay and my neighbor did not provide a reason for why you should go out of", "start": 7788.76, "end": 7794.8}, {"text": "those rules thank you okay thank you thank", "start": 7794.8, "end": 7802.719}, {"text": "you uh next speaker I have registered is uh Brendan Mcall is Brendan in the", "start": 7807, "end": 7813.44}, {"text": "chamber or online okay Brandon is online Brandon", "start": 7813.44, "end": 7819.239}, {"text": "it's stepen holiday the chair of the typical York Community Council can you hear", "start": 7819.239, "end": 7825.28}, {"text": "me hello hi Brendan welcome to the uto York Community Council um you may begin", "start": 7828.199, "end": 7835.04}, {"text": "speaking you have five minutes uh thank you uh for this", "start": 7835.04, "end": 7841.76}, {"text": "opportunity and I am at home today if I can appear via video at some point I", "start": 7841.76, "end": 7847.599}, {"text": "could actually show you the fence um there's some important information I think that maybe we're not aware of", "start": 7847.599, "end": 7855.4}, {"text": "number one our fence is the lowest of three fences so the neighbor to the", "start": 7855.4, "end": 7861.52}, {"text": "north uh the fence is higher Mr Puda himself has a lattice that's higher and also uh David", "start": 7861.52, "end": 7869.719}, {"text": "Nancy a section of their fence they've made higher as well so actually we are the lowest of three fences number two a", "start": 7869.719, "end": 7876.84}, {"text": "very important Point our lumber is compliant meaning when you add the", "start": 7876.84, "end": 7882}, {"text": "boards you have a 6ot board which you can see in the photos you then have a 1in board laying down a 4in board and a", "start": 7882, "end": 7889.079}, {"text": "1inch board on top the wood itself the fence itself is 6' 6 inch taller 2", "start": 7889.079, "end": 7895.28}, {"text": "meters we hired a reputable fence Building Company entirely at our own expense we got them out of the Yellow", "start": 7895.28, "end": 7901.76}, {"text": "Pages we told them the fence will be scrutinized my neighbor Mr bahuda and my", "start": 7901.76, "end": 7907.239}, {"text": "other neighbor oh let's someone has called the fire department over 20 times times in the last two years the police", "start": 7907.239, "end": 7912.92}, {"text": "have been on site what feels like half a dozen times the bylaw officers I know on a first name basis so we are talking", "start": 7912.92, "end": 7920.44}, {"text": "about topography the grade between the two homes one of the most important things", "start": 7920.44, "end": 7925.88}, {"text": "that's been left out is Mr Puda has a raised patio at his house he hasn't mentioned that so if that height was", "start": 7925.88, "end": 7932.76}, {"text": "ever factored in to the measurements I understand it's three points on either side if one of those points was to hit", "start": 7932.76, "end": 7938.639}, {"text": "Mr baha's raised patio then we wouldn't even be having this conversation I'd also like to mention I've added soil and", "start": 7938.639, "end": 7945.639}, {"text": "rocks on my side to try and bring up the topography U since this notice was issued so I've done my best I also tried", "start": 7945.639, "end": 7953.159}, {"text": "to fill the bottom uh Gap our home is a new build 2014 build sometimes the", "start": 7953.159, "end": 7958.76}, {"text": "topography settles the Earth settles and we're not in control of that but again at my expense I've gone out purchased", "start": 7958.76, "end": 7964.84}, {"text": "materials to try and bring it up because again the wood is compliant what you see", "start": 7964.84, "end": 7970.32}, {"text": "in the photos is a 6'6 fence but the space underneath topography and the", "start": 7970.32, "end": 7975.599}, {"text": "measurements is what we're talking about so I'd love to live in peace with my neighbors I'd like this fence uh golf", "start": 7975.599, "end": 7982.48}, {"text": "Crest we've experienced uh I've had an attempted home invasion this year I've had my car stolen at Foodland uh this", "start": 7982.48, "end": 7989.119}, {"text": "year our friends on golf Crest have had their house broken into we've had two other vehicles so we've had six pretty", "start": 7989.119, "end": 7995.44}, {"text": "Subs serious crimes on golf Crest uh in the last 12 months and I i' just like", "start": 7995.44, "end": 8001.559}, {"text": "everyone to keep their fences Mr Puda can have his fence which is taller than mine Dave and Nancy can have their fence", "start": 8001.559, "end": 8007.4}, {"text": "that's taller than mine the neighbors to the north that I've never met they can have their fence that's taller than mine", "start": 8007.4, "end": 8012.679}, {"text": "and if at any point you'd like me to appear by a video link and show you these fences or maybe pull out a", "start": 8012.679, "end": 8018.199}, {"text": "measuring tape or you can come to my house and visit if you are not going to approve this exemption at least come by", "start": 8018.199, "end": 8024.96}, {"text": "and take a look yourself thank you very much have a nice day uh thank you Mr Mall I've got some", "start": 8024.96, "end": 8031.28}, {"text": "questions for you if I may pass the chair yes absolutely um and don't forget to", "start": 8031.28, "end": 8038.559}, {"text": "start the clock there you go okay thank you Vice chair uh Mr mcole could could", "start": 8038.559, "end": 8043.599}, {"text": "you just tell me you had the fence built by someone who was that um literally it's like 1 1800", "start": 8043.599, "end": 8051.84}, {"text": "fences or something like that my wife who's not with me at the time uh it was covid pricing we we looked for a bunch", "start": 8051.84, "end": 8058.639}, {"text": "of people it actually cost $1,000 we were shocked at the pricing but um again", "start": 8058.639, "end": 8064.199}, {"text": "we did it two inches on our property line and we told them be be", "start": 8064.199, "end": 8069.4}, {"text": "compliant uh and we knew that the police were going to be called the police came on site multiple times we knew it was", "start": 8069.4, "end": 8075.44}, {"text": "going to be scrutinized so we asked this company just whatever you do make sure it's compliant and that's what they", "start": 8075.44, "end": 8081.199}, {"text": "built okay there by the way I also it's not 10 in not true if I can just have one", "start": 8081.199, "end": 8088.4}, {"text": "speaker and that's Mr McCall for now if I may okay and so the fence was built um was", "start": 8088.4, "end": 8095.719}, {"text": "there any process used to agree on the fence or the fence height uh with your", "start": 8095.719, "end": 8102.719}, {"text": "next door neighbor Mr Puda no we don't communicate uh in a", "start": 8102.719, "end": 8110.28}, {"text": "sort of polite Manner and so we simply asked for it to be the maximum height I", "start": 8110.28, "end": 8116.44}, {"text": "am a tall person and again with the raised patio directly opposite our dining area we just wanted it as tall as", "start": 8116.44, "end": 8122.28}, {"text": "possible for maximum privacy how many inches but again byw compliance how many", "start": 8122.28, "end": 8127.559}, {"text": "inches long are the boards the vertical boards so six foot six foot board and", "start": 8127.559, "end": 8133.44}, {"text": "then you have a one inch a board laid flat to create one inch a 4-inch board", "start": 8133.44, "end": 8138.8}, {"text": "and a one-inch board on top making it 6 fo6 total or two", "start": 8138.8, "end": 8144.04}, {"text": "meters okay thank you that was all my questions I'll check is there anyone else with questions seeing none", "start": 8144.599, "end": 8151.719}, {"text": "uh thank you for speaking to us back to you Mr chair thank you Vice chair um I", "start": 8151.719, "end": 8157.679}, {"text": "have one other speaker registered and that is uh Cynthia Casa and forgive me casaban", "start": 8157.679, "end": 8164.76}, {"text": "or casassa bran I can't I can't read this caban caban thank you very much um", "start": 8164.76, "end": 8171.679}, {"text": "Cynthia welcome to the utopico York Community Council you have five minutes to speak you may", "start": 8171.679, "end": 8178.198}, {"text": "be", "start": 8179.92, "end": 8182.92}, {"text": "e e", "start": 8209.84, "end": 8213.88}, {"text": "the fence company was recommended from home Stars which is a site that many um", "start": 8248.639, "end": 8255.518}, {"text": "homeowners contact for uh well recommended fence building and it's", "start": 8255.519, "end": 8262.24}, {"text": "called Toronto's Best Fence uh our fence Builder Oleg completely did built the", "start": 8262.24, "end": 8269.84}, {"text": "fence manually by hand without machines to lessen the damage to the both", "start": 8269.84, "end": 8276.439}, {"text": "property side even though the fence is within two Ines of our property", "start": 8276.44, "end": 8283.399}, {"text": "thank you for your time thank you did anyone have any other questions of the", "start": 8301.32, "end": 8307.519}, {"text": "speaker seeing none I'm sorry our procedure doesn't allow us to ask questions of the speaker uh from the", "start": 8308.04, "end": 8314.319}, {"text": "gallery it's only members of council uh seeing none uh I will ask are there any other speakers on this", "start": 8314.32, "end": 8320.518}, {"text": "particular item there's not okay so we'll take it", "start": 8320.519, "end": 8326.399}, {"text": "into committee uh we'll ask staff questions um are there members of", "start": 8326.4, "end": 8331.84}, {"text": "council wishing to ask questions of Staff seeing none I will ask well just", "start": 8331.84, "end": 8337.478}, {"text": "one one little question um so the 10 in um violation how how long does that run", "start": 8337.479, "end": 8344.638}, {"text": "for along the fence good morning through you Mr chair um I'm not too sure where", "start": 8344.639, "end": 8349.88}, {"text": "the 10 Ines is coming in to play uh based on the officer's photos the there is a grade difference so if we're", "start": 8349.88, "end": 8357.2}, {"text": "measuring from eight golf Crest the measurements are pretty on par to that 2", "start": 8357.2, "end": 8362.24}, {"text": "m Mark uh with the exception of a few areas where the grade goes up and down it might be an inch to maximum three um", "start": 8362.24, "end": 8370.96}, {"text": "above that 2 meter and then if we're measuring from 10 golf Crest the maximum", "start": 8370.96, "end": 8376.678}, {"text": "measurements that I saw was about 4 in over that 2 m Mark so I I am not too sure where the 10 in is coming into play", "start": 8376.679, "end": 8384.12}, {"text": "but there is grading that does go up and down throughout the fence so it is multiple areas throughout the fence 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you chair we", "start": 8436.72, "end": 8443.64}, {"text": "don't see any safety concerns um it it's in violation of the bylaw um", "start": 8443.64, "end": 8450.84}, {"text": "but yeah with regards to safety or any concerns that staff has we don't see and", "start": 8450.84, "end": 8457.359}, {"text": "just a follow up on that we heard from one of the uh deput here today that there are numerous surrounding fences in", "start": 8457.359, "end": 8463.04}, {"text": "the neighborhood that do exceed the height that we're discussing here today was that your observation or can you", "start": 8463.04, "end": 8468.12}, {"text": "confirm if that was the observation from staff through you chair um I can confirm that on the side of 10 golf Crest there", "start": 8468.12, "end": 8476.04}, {"text": "is a white I want to say maybe a privacy screen would better describe it because", "start": 8476.04, "end": 8481.72}, {"text": "it's not a fence it's not on the property line I believe it's on top of 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"then uh yeah it it would be in compliance the areas where it's about an", "start": 8726.68, "end": 8731.92}, {"text": "inch over they would fall under the 2 meter Mark okay and then so one of the things we heard from the speaker today", "start": 8731.92, "end": 8737.96}, {"text": "was that they added soil to their side of the fence if soil brings the grades closer", "start": 8737.96, "end": 8747.2}, {"text": "in terms of differential and I I think we're talking of few inches here not feet if soil brings the the grades", "start": 8747.2, "end": 8753.84}, {"text": "closer that allows for a shorter fence is that right through you chair so what", "start": 8753.84, "end": 8759.76}, {"text": "happens when the grading changes is we take the both sides into accountability the both eight and 10 what we would do", "start": 8759.76, "end": 8766.08}, {"text": "is measure a meter out measure that grade and then split the difference and split the difference yeah okay so if the", "start": 8766.08, 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configuration of", "start": 8811.04, "end": 8816.6}, {"text": "the boards and the overall height yeah okay thank you I've gone over I appreciate your", "start": 8816.6, "end": 8822.359}, {"text": "time uh are there any other members of uh Council wishing to ask questions all", "start": 8822.359, "end": 8827.96}, {"text": "right um any members wishing to speak all right I will", "start": 8827.96, "end": 8834.24}, {"text": "speak uh I am going to move the staff recommendations uh which is to refuse", "start": 8834.24, "end": 8840.6}, {"text": "the variance um what I can say is the following uh I I", "start": 8840.6, "end": 8847.88}, {"text": "was it's good to meet some of the people to speak today this is the first I heard of some of the information that was", "start": 8847.88, "end": 8854.2}, {"text": "brought forward today but as a member of council we've all been there where we are challenged to try to sort through", "start": 8854.2, "end": 8860.12}, {"text": "something that is rather complicated um from the best research we could do leading into this uh we noticed", "start": 8860.12, "end": 8867.439}, {"text": "online through the public reporting there is an enormous number of uh bylaw complaints and things within the general", "start": 8867.439, "end": 8874.319}, {"text": "area so I think there's a lot going on here um what I have very clearly in", "start": 8874.319, "end": 8879.88}, {"text": "front of me is a difference between one neighbor and the other neighbor and so we're we're stuck as a community council", "start": 8879.88, "end": 8886.72}, {"text": "to try to pick one side or the other sometimes there's a bit of information", "start": 8886.72, "end": 8892}, {"text": "and there's a bit of rationale about what has gone on it's not completely clear in this", "start": 8892, "end": 8897.359}, {"text": "case um so what do we have left if you go through all of the steps trying to", "start": 8897.359, "end": 8902.399}, {"text": "figure it out all you've got is the bylaw at the end of the day um I built a fence just personally", "start": 8902.399, "end": 8909.16}, {"text": "myself I don't know month or two ago and uh I understand the difficulty of making", "start": 8909.16, "end": 8914.399}, {"text": "the calculations with the grade the height and so on with the fence uh but", "start": 8914.399, "end": 8919.68}, {"text": "what I just don't understand is how a professional Fence Company could be built told to work within the", "start": 8919.68, "end": 8927.279}, {"text": "bylaw and by my math unless I've got it wrong even the configuration of the wood", "start": 8927.279, "end": 8932.479}, {"text": "is slightly over so if just the wood is slightly over and you know it can't go", "start": 8932.479, "end": 8938.56}, {"text": "right to the soil on the ground then your fence is going to be over at the end of the day and I you", "start": 8938.56, "end": 8945.92}, {"text": "know one of the things I'd heard is there's a large gap between the bottom of 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8993.56}, {"text": "put into a very awkward spot to try to sort through this and really all I've got left at the end of the day is the", "start": 8993.56, "end": 8999.8}, {"text": "bylaw or not and so my recommendation to community council is that we refuse the", "start": 8999.8, "end": 9006}, {"text": "the App application for variance I regret doing that it's not easy and it's going to require a change to be made but", "start": 9006, "end": 9013.2}, {"text": "that's all that we've got left and uh I will wish the best of luck for all of the neighbors who Beyond today's meeting", "start": 9013.2, "end": 9019.319}, {"text": "are going to have to figure out how to live next to one another um with that I will um I will", "start": 9019.319, "end": 9025.52}, {"text": "ask finally if there's any other speakers seeing none uh did you want to", "start": 9025.52, "end": 9030.84}, {"text": "speak no I got a not okay on the motion on staff recommendations all those in", "start": 9030.84, "end": 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neighborhood it is only fitting that there be a", "start": 9338.319, "end": 9344.16}, {"text": "designation under the Ontario Heritage Act of 3100 Western Road", "start": 9344.16, "end": 9350.16}, {"text": "thank you thank you are there any questions of the speaker Deputy Mayor Morley thank", "start": 9350.16, "end": 9357.8}, {"text": "you Mr chair through you uh thank you for joining us today Edith it's good to see you and uh learn more about this", "start": 9357.8, "end": 9364.2}, {"text": "really important site can you talk to us about your personal connection to the site or to the the founding folks uh on", "start": 9364.2, "end": 9370.52}, {"text": "the site Percy Gardner was a youngest child of a farming family of six children two of his older brothers", "start": 9370.52, "end": 9377.52}, {"text": "became doctors and their last practices could be found in Toronto Dr John", "start": 9377.52, "end": 9382.92}, {"text": "Gardner's practice was in Mount Dennis at edlington and Weston 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fever but he said there's a new drug on the market", "start": 9430.88, "end": 9436.52}, {"text": "and I want to try it on her and of course they said yes he administered the", "start": 9436.52, "end": 9442.479}, {"text": "drug and my aunt survived that new drug was P penicillin these are The", "start": 9442.479, "end": 9449.16}, {"text": "Gardener's family's contributions to my", "start": 9449.16, "end": 9454.8}, {"text": "family thank you are there any other questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining", "start": 9455.84, "end": 9463.16}, {"text": "us our next speaker is Antonio chiarelli", "start": 9463.479, "end": 9470.2}, {"text": "is Antonio here great good", "start": 9470.2, "end": 9475.72}, {"text": "afternoon welcome to the aico York Community Council uh you have five minutes to speak please begin when", "start": 9475.72, "end": 9481.52}, {"text": "you're ready Mr chair member of the counselor", "start": 9481.52, "end": 9486.96}, {"text": "ladies and gentlemen we 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was a reference to find in peace and food for the", "start": 9539.52, "end": 9545.8}, {"text": "soul in today's society where everyone is very busy and stressed given the", "start": 9546.279, "end": 9552.12}, {"text": "economical state that we're in all due to the increase in food prices home riches and post price an average person", "start": 9552.12, "end": 9559.6}, {"text": "to PES it's very difficult founding this employment is a challenge", "start": 9559.6, "end": 9565.92}, {"text": "perspective so you may ask yourself where am I going with this I believe", "start": 9565.92, "end": 9571.399}, {"text": "that we are we are a society that cares for one another and recognize the great", "start": 9571.399, "end": 9576.64}, {"text": "benefit that they trying to provide of a thousand people from every walks of", "start": 9576.64, "end": 9582.359}, {"text": "life they visited the place to find spiritual help and peace of a mind for a", "start": 9582.359, "end": 9588.96}, {"text": "listed the time that they were there and Beyond the visit to the shrine allow me", "start": 9588.96, "end": 9595.279}, {"text": "to have a better day and be a better person many in many many", "start": 9595.279, "end": 9602.52}, {"text": "ways for the foregoing reason I ask you to consider keeping the Shrine in the", "start": 9602.52, "end": 9607.84}, {"text": "same place so that the many Soul devoted to the devotion of mother Mary can", "start": 9607.84, "end": 9614.6}, {"text": "continue to go to a place that we're always welcoming and", "start": 9614.6, "end": 9619.96}, {"text": "open to find source and help to the need there is other speaker that I will", "start": 9619.96, "end": 9626.88}, {"text": "talk about I don't know what the topic is but to me was this very important topic that I want to share with you and", "start": 9626.88, "end": 9634.359}, {"text": "I hope that uh the committee will make it the just a right decision at the end", "start": 9634.359, "end": 9640.88}, {"text": "of the day thank you thank you are there any questions of the speaker seeing none", "start": 9640.88, "end": 9646.2}, {"text": "thank you for joining us uh the next speaker is Angela Carboni I think Angela", "start": 9646.2, "end": 9653.12}, {"text": "is uh am oh great okay it says you're on video you're you're live I have a few", "start": 9653.12, "end": 9661.521}, {"text": "pictures thank you for the opportunity speak to you today um I was very blessed", "start": 9662.64, "end": 9668.68}, {"text": "in 2020 to be a tenant at the Carmen stano Community Center I'm I operate a", "start": 9668.68, "end": 9676.68}, {"text": "charity that I founded called St Bern et's Family Resource Center and we", "start": 9676.68, "end": 9681.96}, {"text": "rented three classrooms on the second floor along with the three classrooms", "start": 9681.96, "end": 9688.52}, {"text": "which was a day program called St Judith's Academy of the Arts for intellectually and physically challenged", "start": 9688.52, 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which created the beautiful garden with", "start": 9743.04, "end": 9749.68}, {"text": "permission of his superiors and the bishop which was open to the public and", "start": 9749.68, "end": 9755.76}, {"text": "we had a real Devastation when they were sent away they were trying to eliminate", "start": 9755.76, "end": 9761.359}, {"text": "me from the building as well hoping to sell the property seven of us went to Rome I wrote to Pope Francis who took", "start": 9761.359, "end": 9769.399}, {"text": "away the rights to sell the property so for 7 years we received written permission from Rome from their General", "start": 9769.399, "end": 9777.52}, {"text": "to keep attending the property I was a volunteer prayer coordinator I did all", "start": 9777.52, "end": 9783.12}, {"text": "the prayers from May to October and thousands and thousands kept coming Night and Day within all the years which", "start": 9783.12, "end": 9791.12}, {"text": "is 20 years almost 18 years that my involvement has been there I have", "start": 9791.12, "end": 9797.08}, {"text": "personally received a healing where my mother was healed of cancer and it extended her life 15 years um my", "start": 9797.08, "end": 9804.84}, {"text": "assistant received a healing of fourth stage leukemia he is now 45 should have", "start": 9804.84, "end": 9810.96}, {"text": "been dead at 32 but he and another young lady who worked with me had endocrine", "start": 9810.96, "end": 9817.56}, {"text": "cancer completely healed she's on her third child in May last year after", "start": 9817.56, "end": 9822.72}, {"text": "hearing of hundreds of people with blindness not ability to walk um", "start": 9822.72, "end": 9829.12}, {"text": "different healings of different kinds a lady came running in May and said I have", "start": 9829.12, "end": 9834.319}, {"text": "a tumor on my breast please pray for me she prayed the rosary and we prayed that", "start": 9834.319, "end": 9840.96}, {"text": "night about a month later she came running to me and said it's gone they", "start": 9840.96, "end": 9846.76}, {"text": "were going to do a biopsy and it there was nothing to remove so there has been countless", "start": 9846.76, "end": 9854.2}, {"text": "healings and there's also been people who I've witnessed young people people", "start": 9854.2, "end": 9859.84}, {"text": "who while I was praying some who told me that they would be committing suicide", "start": 9859.84, "end": 9866.64}, {"text": "but the peace they felt the Solace they felt at this beautiful Grounds was", "start": 9866.64, "end": 9872.64}, {"text": "incredible the same peace was in the chapel and unfortunately it was sold", "start": 9872.64, "end": 9879.479}, {"text": "without any warning or any notice to anyone and we're at 20,000 on a", "start": 9879.479, "end": 9886.12}, {"text": "change.org petition and it's growing going weekly people are devastated", "start": 9886.12, "end": 9892.2}, {"text": "people have said I managed to fulfill my time in Canada because I was able to", "start": 9892.2, "end": 9897.64}, {"text": "visit this Shrine some of them have said they've been able to cope with serious", "start": 9897.64, "end": 9903.64}, {"text": "mental stress loss of family because it was open 247 so basically people would", "start": 9903.64, "end": 9910.6}, {"text": "just go any time to this day I'm praying there I was never a squatter I was a", "start": 9910.6, "end": 9917.96}, {"text": "volunteer and people are still coming in the cold", "start": 9917.96, "end": 9923.04}, {"text": "uh last Friday night we had close to 400 um unfortunately we haven't been treated", "start": 9923.04, "end": 9929.279}, {"text": "with any respect from the new owner and actually it's not the statue that heals", "start": 9929.279, "end": 9934.84}, {"text": "people we are not idolators it's the grounds it's like Lords and if we're", "start": 9934.84, "end": 9940.92}, {"text": "lucky in Toronto you might get a lot of visits Lords gets thousands and thousands from all over the world which", "start": 9940.92, "end": 9947.24}, {"text": "this place is getting also from out of the country so I pray that you do", "start": 9947.24, "end": 9952.279}, {"text": "consider it Heritage it is of Great Value that is much greater than any money can buy because it gives love", "start": 9952.279, "end": 9959.68}, {"text": "peace and healing at a very desperate time God bless thank you thank you Miss", "start": 9959.68, "end": 9965.2}, {"text": "Carboni are there any questions of the speaker seeing none we'll ask the next", "start": 9965.2, "end": 9972.12}, {"text": "speaker uh Rose Savage the note here is Rose may be", "start": 9972.12, "end": 9977.279}, {"text": "online the nod good good afternoon to St hi thank you", "start": 9977.279, "end": 9984.16}, {"text": "so much for this opportunity you've got five minutes please begin when you're ready hey thank you so much for this", "start": 9984.16, "end": 9990.359}, {"text": "opportunity to speak today I I emailed my um deputation that includes six links", "start": 9990.359, "end": 9996.68}, {"text": "to documents as as it relates to Heritage so the first one is the architect of uh emer's treasured River", "start": 9996.68, "end": 10003.52}, {"text": "Emory Village which was dated March the 20 2022", "start": 10003.52, "end": 10009.68}, {"text": "the second was uh second one was riverme house and its owner Percy Garder Emory", "start": 10009.68, "end": 10014.8}, {"text": "Village which was dated April 2022 third one is North York residents", "start": 10014.8, "end": 10020.359}, {"text": "called fixes to Carmine Stefano dated June 2019 and updated on May 27", "start": 10020.359, "end": 10027.84}, {"text": "2023 fourth one is uh riverme house and its second owner Jethro crang Emery", "start": 10027.84, "end": 10033.88}, {"text": "Village dated May 2022 the fifth one is on trip advis", "start": 10033.88, "end": 10039.76}, {"text": "er.ca and this is a Trip Advisor has many 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the necessary research and due diligence on the land its type and its uses as a", "start": 10088.12, "end": 10096.359}, {"text": "designated Shrine for all to enjoy in addition any existing applications", "start": 10096.359, "end": 10102.479}, {"text": "with Decades of dedication from community members public officials as", "start": 10102.479, "end": 10108.399}, {"text": "well as formal and informal contracts agreements in place to support the community's use this too would be", "start": 10108.399, "end": 10115.8}, {"text": "brought to the buyer's attention during inspections and should not have been ignored nor can buyers attempt to change", "start": 10115.8, "end": 10122.96}, {"text": "bylaws immediately during inspections phase and prior to closing the transaction", "start": 10122.96, "end": 10129.04}, {"text": "formal acknowledgement understanding agreement concurrence and consent to", "start": 10129.04, "end": 10134.6}, {"text": "Legal binding signatures respects the Heritage applications already in", "start": 10134.6, "end": 10140.359}, {"text": "progress at the city of Toronto this formal consent and signoff is required", "start": 10140.359, "end": 10145.64}, {"text": "in order to proceed with closing the transaction the legal binding agreement is signed and seal and once it's signed", "start": 10145.64, "end": 10153.319}, {"text": "the transaction is closed this now becomes an informed buyer who cannot dispute", "start": 10153.319, "end": 10159.239}, {"text": "demand immediate change or escalate to alpat Olt or legal action no", "start": 10159.239, "end": 10165.439}, {"text": "knowingly the planning department process as well as the understanding of the current planning act official plan", "start": 10165.439, "end": 10172.239}, {"text": "and zoning bylaws requires formal public consultation through Committee of the", "start": 10172.239, "end": 10177.84}, {"text": "whole and ratified at Council are required with any planned changes to existing use formal application and", "start": 10177.84, "end": 10185.6}, {"text": "permits are made available for all to adhere to and follow a process in order", "start": 10185.6, "end": 10190.92}, {"text": "to request any changes after closing date and only if permitted and the", "start": 10190.92, "end": 10195.96}, {"text": "community is heard and is part of the process so the transaction ignores and", "start": 10195.96, "end": 10201.88}, {"text": "disrespects the city of Toronto and the community at large by their failure to", "start": 10201.88, "end": 10207.8}, {"text": "adhere to these established processes and the needs of the community so thank you again for this opportunity to speak", "start": 10207.8, "end": 10215.52}, {"text": "thank you Miss Savage are there any questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us our", "start": 10215.52, "end": 10222}, {"text": "next speaker is Stan", "start": 10222, "end": 10226.479}, {"text": "SOC Stan welcome to the uto your community council you 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Bramton so now this is only my my", "start": 10338.16, "end": 10344.92}, {"text": "picture of the beautiful place they destroy which whole Community not only", "start": 10344.92, "end": 10350.88}, {"text": "Toronto but uh around the world they they knew this place thank you very", "start": 10350.88, "end": 10357.96}, {"text": "much thank you are there any questions of the speaker thank you for joining us", "start": 10357.96, "end": 10363.96}, {"text": "today uh the next speaker is uh Olga robino", "start": 10363.96, "end": 10369.76}, {"text": "Mr chair just before we do that can I move um that we extend to finish uh our", "start": 10369.76, "end": 10375.479}, {"text": "agenda today because I know that if the next speaker will extend exceed 12:30 so", "start": 10375.479, "end": 10381}, {"text": "can we do that now absolutely Vice uh um Vice chair bruts moves to extend uh to", "start": 10381, "end": 10386.88}, {"text": "complete the agenda all those in favor any opposed that carries um we just ask", "start": 10386.88, "end": 10392.88}, {"text": "is Olga Rabino available yes I'm avail again okay Olga", "start": 10392.88, "end": 10400.04}, {"text": "you're online uh Steven holiday chair of the toico York Community Council welcome uh you have five minutes to speak please", "start": 10400.04, "end": 10406.16}, {"text": "begin when you're ready thank you good morning Mr chair Steven holiday and members of community", "start": 10406.16, "end": 10412.8}, {"text": "council thank you for the opportunity to speak this morning my name is Olga Rubino I'm a retired French immersion", "start": 10412.8, "end": 10419.76}, {"text": "high school department head and supervising principal of Elementary International languages program with the", "start": 10419.76, "end": 10425.92}, {"text": "Toronto Catholic District School Board and have served the community in education for over 40 years I'm here to", "start": 10425.92, "end": 10432.76}, {"text": "support the amending of the listing statement and to support the eventual designation of 3100 Weston Road as a", "start": 10432.76, "end": 10439.84}, {"text": "Heritage Property to be preserved in its original state the property includes the", "start": 10439.84, "end": 10445.359}, {"text": "tutor style house the backyard gardens with the Maran Shrine an outdoor gazebo", "start": 10445.359, "end": 10450.56}, {"text": "prayer room and the L-shaped red brick building that houses the Chapel church named St basil the Great's church and", "start": 10450.56, "end": 10457.88}, {"text": "the original High School named St basil the great College school this morning I will present three points firstly do", "start": 10457.88, "end": 10466.439}, {"text": "process and public access to the property historically the property has been sold to developers who are from out", "start": 10466.439, "end": 10473.52}, {"text": "of Province Andor out of country no opportunity was given to torontonians", "start": 10473.52, "end": 10479.08}, {"text": "GTA citizens residents or members of the community to purchase the property no", "start": 10479.08, "end": 10484.6}, {"text": "due process took place nor was any notice given to the public that the property at 3100 Western Road would be", "start": 10484.6, "end": 10491.439}, {"text": "available for sale the public has enjoyed access to the property for more than 20 years the", "start": 10491.439, "end": 10498.16}, {"text": "public should have been informed about the availability of the property for sale prior to any private sale much", "start": 10498.16, "end": 10505.16}, {"text": "money was donated by the public to create the pathway the Gazebo the gardens Etc the place was developed with", "start": 10505.16, "end": 10512.239}, {"text": "private donations and the funds of the people in the common knowledge woven", "start": 10512.239, "end": 10517.319}, {"text": "into the collective mindset of the community the property albeit private does have aspects of being a public", 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thank you thank you are there", "start": 10744.84, "end": 10751.64}, {"text": "any questions of the speaker seeing none uh thank you for joining us the next speaker is uh Eva pnik is Eva here or", "start": 10751.64, "end": 10761.359}, {"text": "online Eva's online welcome Eva Steven holiday chair of the utal York Community Council uh you have five minutes to", "start": 10761.359, "end": 10768.239}, {"text": "speak please begin when you're", "start": 10768.239, "end": 10771.279}, {"text": "ready there you good afternoon I've been a resident in this", "start": 10777.239, "end": 10782.8}, {"text": "area for just over a decade one of the first things my", "start": 10782.8, "end": 10788.279}, {"text": "partner and I uh did when we moved to this area was visit the", "start": 10788.279, "end": 10793.64}, {"text": "shrine um during during my residency here in", "start": 10793.64, "end": 10800.439}, {"text": "this neighborhood uh our family has", "start": 10800.439, "end": 10806.399}, {"text": "lost um so many members to illness and violence and", "start": 10806.399, "end": 10812.359}, {"text": "crime and every time we did um my mother and I would visit the", "start": 10812.359, "end": 10819}, {"text": "shrine my sister and I would visit the shrine and we have um so", "start": 10819, "end": 10826.96}, {"text": "much gratefulness for being able to attend a place that gives us Solace and peace and", "start": 10826.96, "end": 10835.8}, {"text": "hope and just to have this beautiful place in our neighborhood um has", "start": 10835.8, "end": 10843.04}, {"text": "been such a wonderful opportunity um and I hope we don't lose", "start": 10843.04, "end": 10849.68}, {"text": "it the the grounds itself is beautiful any construction on this property would", "start": 10849.68, "end": 10857.92}, {"text": "be a detriment to the Humber River Park system and um and a gorgeous meeting", "start": 10857.92, "end": 10866.52}, {"text": "place for everyone to to find Comfort", "start": 10866.52, 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{"text": "being negatively impacted by the kns leag Takeover since August 2023 of the", "start": 10954.279, "end": 10959.52}, {"text": "playing field which the counselor andara is not only in support of but a willing", "start": 10959.52, "end": 10965.279}, {"text": "participant in these gatherings I'm going to include um photos that will be attached to the deputations um in an", "start": 10965.279, "end": 10972.56}, {"text": "email to see so that you can see us proof uh the last one being on October 13th where a feast with tables food", "start": 10972.56, "end": 10979.88}, {"text": "music statues and a large Gathering of people was being looked over by the counselor in the presence of police", "start": 10979.88, "end": 10986.12}, {"text": "officers now I just want to say this that whether the shrine is added to the listing or not um or whether it be", "start": 10986.12, "end": 10993.12}, {"text": "considered Heritage or not as a property owner I have some very very very conning", 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11153.04, "end": 11158.2}, {"text": "handling of this matter by The Counselor will be submitting a complaint to the Integrity commission to investigate", "start": 11158.2, "end": 11164.76}, {"text": "whether Mr peruta has violated the code of conduct that applies to him as a counselor thank you for", "start": 11164.76, "end": 11172.88}, {"text": "listening thank you are there any questions of the speaker uh seeing none I'm going to I I just", "start": 11173.359, "end": 11180.239}, {"text": "want to thank her for mentioning me I don't know 15 times in Her speech and for the political ad thank", "start": 11180.239, "end": 11188.439}, {"text": "you our next speaker is Teresa labinsky I believe that's trustee Teresa", "start": 11188.68, "end": 11194.92}, {"text": "labinsky do we have Teresa", "start": 11194.92, "end": 11201}, {"text": "online the numbers don't match so I've promoted someone but I don't know if it's the Cor", "start": 11203.08, "end": 11209.521}, {"text": "person is Teresa 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Western Road uh the community appreciates that um the most that was", "start": 11261.92, "end": 11268.239}, {"text": "presented um last month uh to propose full protection or river made to the", "start": 11268.239, "end": 11273.92}, {"text": "Garden of families former country estate the Maran Shrine of gratitude the carine", "start": 11273.92, "end": 11279.72}, {"text": "carine Stefano Community Center a parking lot and a few soccer fields that", "start": 11279.72, "end": 11284.88}, {"text": "are all located at 31 Western Road steps away from the banks of the Hur", "start": 11284.88, "end": 11291.279}, {"text": "River uh the garders family opened their home River made to various Charities and", "start": 11291.279, "end": 11296.64}, {"text": "organizations such as the crle CR of York Township the Red Cross and group", "start": 11296.64, "end": 11302.84}, {"text": "number three of the woman's auxiliary of the stclair YMCA the first nations of North America", "start": 11302.84, "end": 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"values the city needs to rec recognize its historic sides Through The Eyes of", "start": 11397.96, "end": 11403.08}, {"text": "new Canadians and immigrants and River mate offers that opportunity because of my long", "start": 11403.08, "end": 11409.04}, {"text": "connection to the Maran Shrine of gratitude I began working with my colleagues on the Toronto Catholic District School Board last month in", "start": 11409.04, "end": 11416.359}, {"text": "hopes of protecting the property at 3100 Western Road Together We formed a motion", "start": 11416.359, "end": 11422}, {"text": "that passed unanimously requesting that both the city of Toronto and the government of Ontario designate the", "start": 11422, "end": 11428.08}, {"text": "former Gardener family summer Resort bazilian father's house including the Maran Shrine of gratitude located at", "start": 11428.08, "end": 11435.52}, {"text": "3100 Western Road in Toronto as a heritage site protected by the Ontario", "start": 11435.52, "end": 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please go ahead when you're ready perfect thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak here I'm", "start": 11540.76, "end": 11546.6}, {"text": "actually very happy to to meet this committee and I'm glad that Anthony per", "start": 11546.6, "end": 11551.76}, {"text": "is actually sitting there as well because I like to direct my speech to you directly um because of your action we", "start": 11551.76, "end": 11558.399}, {"text": "are going to ter by the way just let me introduce myself a little bit I'm a property owner okay uh of", "start": 11558.399, "end": 11564.08}, {"text": "3100 and I'd like to make this very clear to the Comm due to Anthony piz's action our board is", "start": 11564.08, "end": 11572.399}, {"text": "decided to terminated leave to the city of Toronto occupying this property now this is going to result in a lot of", "start": 11572.399, "end": 11579.279}, {"text": "people uh industry of Toronto suffer the consequences due to act the action the", "start": 11579.279, "end": 11585.279}, {"text": "the council's action you've decided to neglect our property rights you've decided to wage war against your", "start": 11585.279, "end": 11592.88}, {"text": "constituent against your constituent I believe your job as a counselor is to to represent all member of the public in", "start": 11592.88, "end": 11599.76}, {"text": "your constituent not a section part of the constituent Mr BS it's it's Sten", "start": 11599.76, "end": 11605.239}, {"text": "holiday the chair if I if I could ask you to speak to the item um to mind your", "start": 11605.239, "end": 11611.68}, {"text": "comments uh in in favor or opposition of the item though please if I can just ask", "start": 11611.68, "end": 11617.479}, {"text": "you to to I I am talking I am talking in focus in favor of the of the item the", "start": 11617.479, "end": 11622.96}, {"text": "item here is to designate my property uh and and include this illegal Shrine on", "start": 11622.96, "end": 11629.2}, {"text": "my property right that's the item so I'm talking directly to that and my", "start": 11629.2, "end": 11635.319}, {"text": "objection to this item is that the shrine that everybody's talking about is a complete illegal act on this property", "start": 11635.319, "end": 11643.359}, {"text": "the counselor knows that because I've had a meeting with him in my office and I've made it very clear to him and the", "start": 11643.359, "end": 11649.399}, {"text": "response from him to my office was this would never come out of my mouth to the", "start": 11649.399, "end": 11655.04}, {"text": "constituent so we educated you we told you what our plan is with this property we made it very clear that we", "start": 11655.04, "end": 11661.399}, {"text": "would not develop or destroy the Heritage aspect of this property and we", "start": 11661.399, "end": 11667.319}, {"text": "Enlighten you as to what our plan are or is with this to this property and you responded to us and told us you would", "start": 11667.319, "end": 11674.52}, {"text": "never tell the truth to your constituent because you are concerned about the the", "start": 11674.52, "end": 11680.239}, {"text": "the the consequences of you speaking the truth which is you're going to lose bothe we feel like you are Mr chair look", "start": 11680.239, "end": 11688.12}, {"text": "I I can't I can't really understand what he's saying but I think that what he's saying is is uh you know very", "start": 11688.12, "end": 11696.16}, {"text": "Li I don't know what he's doing I like to W my time I like to my", "start": 11696.16, "end": 11701.92}, {"text": "time chair I like to my time it's my time to talk and you have no right to talk what", "start": 11701.92, "end": 11707.52}, {"text": "I'm talking the point of privilege uh uh Mr chair is that um you know you know we", "start": 11707.52, "end": 11716.2}, {"text": "we for example to recla my time we for example I like to recla my time sir I like to reclaim", "start": 11716.2, "end": 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"parlamentary or or very truthful so uh I I would caution him to do that and and", "start": 11765.319, "end": 11771.76}, {"text": "give him give him his time back absolutely he's entitled to his five minutes let him have his five minutes Mr", "start": 11771.76, "end": 11777.6}, {"text": "bab uh it's chair Stephen holiday so I did pause your time at 2:29 um I will add uh 30 seconds to give", "start": 11777.6, "end": 11785.76}, {"text": "you 5:30 because I can't roll the clock back uh but that's more than adequate uh", "start": 11785.76, "end": 11791.399}, {"text": "what I would ask you to do uh as as raised at the the point of privilege uh", "start": 11791.399, "end": 11796.92}, {"text": "by counselor perut is please bring your comments through the chair as opposed to", "start": 11796.92, "end": 11802.239}, {"text": "speaking to the counselor directly um please keep them focused to me as the", "start": 11802.239, "end": 11807.479}, {"text": "chair uh you you are I I know that you're aware that you're entitled to speak to this item and I'm prepared to", "start": 11807.479, "end": 11814.279}, {"text": "allow broad latitude uh but I do ask you to please remain focused on the", "start": 11814.279, "end": 11819.72}, {"text": "particular subject matter before us and if you are going to uh to speak uh in a", "start": 11819.72, "end": 11825.08}, {"text": "more direct manner if you could bring those comments through me as the chair um and with that I will ask that you", "start": 11825.08, "end": 11832.76}, {"text": "please continue and I will restart your I will reestablish your clock", "start": 11832.76, "end": 11838.16}, {"text": "thank you so much um I think he uh the individual uh we're talking about made a", "start": 11838.16, "end": 11844.6}, {"text": "comment that I he does not understand what I'm talking about I think uh you probably either sick to understand what", "start": 11844.6, "end": 11850.359}, {"text": "I'm saying or because I'm very what I'm saying is very clear um right abusive of", "start": 11850.359, "end": 11855.84}, {"text": "power you will be chair we are going to follow an investigation into the whole matter we feel that the uh so-called", "start": 11855.84, "end": 11864.84}, {"text": "20,000 um 20,000 petitions are fraudulent uh We've launched an", "start": 11864.84, "end": 11870.08}, {"text": "investigation into the uh socalled petitions that will will be investigated", "start": 11870.08, "end": 11875.8}, {"text": "as well as um your the the over Regional power we be we have uh uh we have", "start": 11875.8, "end": 11883.319}, {"text": "evidence to support our claim that uh Anthony pero is going around to different agencies and asking them to", "start": 11883.319, "end": 11890.279}, {"text": "give us a a hard time in developing this property including trca we have evidence", "start": 11890.279, "end": 11895.76}, {"text": "of this action and we feel that this this this this counselor has completely", "start": 11895.76, "end": 11901.199}, {"text": "abused his power in this position and we this need to be investigated also I just", "start": 11901.199, "end": 11907.04}, {"text": "like to to to to know that this is a private property either this property", "start": 11907.04, "end": 11912.16}, {"text": "gets designated or section part of this property get get designated as in", "start": 11912.16, "end": 11917.479}, {"text": "Heritage or not the public will not be allowed onto this property this is my", "start": 11917.479, "end": 11923.16}, {"text": "property and I will not let nobody come into this property right so you guys the", "start": 11923.16, "end": 11928.76}, {"text": "I feel like the the city's time has been completely wasted uh in fighting a lost cause right um this is a private", "start": 11928.76, "end": 11936.84}, {"text": "property and I'm going to iterate what I'm saying as many times as possible and no one can force us as private property", "start": 11936.84, "end": 11944.239}, {"text": "owner to allow the public to continue to trespass that property uh the city of Toronto we are in dialogue with the city", "start": 11944.239, "end": 11950.399}, {"text": "of Toronto real estate department and we have decided um maybe you might not be aware maybe you are aware the city of", "start": 11950.399, "end": 11956.8}, {"text": "Toronto is our tenant on this property they currently list in the community center and due to Anthony perel's action", "start": 11956.8, "end": 11963.359}, {"text": "we have decided to terminate the lease to the city of Toronto which obviously the large Public public will suffer the", "start": 11963.359, "end": 11971.279}, {"text": "consequences of this because they will be denied access to the playing fields which everybody enjoys just like the", "start": 11971.279, "end": 11977.12}, {"text": "previous uh speaker uh touched on and we are going to launch a Thor investigation", "start": 11977.12, "end": 11983.04}, {"text": "into this matter to expose Anthony Peru's agenda which is strictly political political thank you for", "start": 11983.04, "end": 11989.279}, {"text": "allowing me to uh to speak thank you Mr Bob are there any", "start": 11989.279, "end": 11995.92}, {"text": "questions of the speaker uh Deputy Mayor", "start": 11995.92, "end": 12001.359}, {"text": "Morley hi there um thanks for presenting today I'm curious if you are comfortable", "start": 12001.359, "end": 12006.76}, {"text": "sharing what is your intention as the private property owner for the future of this", "start": 12006.76, "end": 12012.8}, {"text": "property thank you for the question uh We've made it very clear explicitly clear that we love the house the", "start": 12012.8, "end": 12020.88}, {"text": "Heritage House we love the property as this uh like I said there's three sections to this property there's a", "start": 12020.88, "end": 12027.68}, {"text": "Heritage component to this property there's a plane field component to this property and there's a 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I really cannot understand what the agenda is here is it", "start": 12070.96, "end": 12076.239}, {"text": "is the genda to keep the Heritage Property Heritage or to keep the Shrine we have to identify exactly what we're", "start": 12076.239, "end": 12082.319}, {"text": "fighting for here right and if if the agenda here is to keep the shrine then we got to start asking the the", "start": 12082.319, "end": 12088.76}, {"text": "legitimacy of the shrine the the the shrine was has no formal organization", "start": 12088.76, "end": 12094.199}, {"text": "this is not a registered charity right these guys do not pay any taxes we", "start": 12094.199, "end": 12099.359}, {"text": "they're not exempt from paying taxes we know that CRA is not aware of this organization and they are connecting", "start": 12099.359, "end": 12105.279}, {"text": "more thousands of dollars over the last 20 years when the member of public through different donations is currently", "start": 12105.279, "end": 12110.72}, {"text": "going into private cover uh private bank accounts being utilized by this Fring um", "start": 12110.72, "end": 12116.8}, {"text": "um uh thank you you answered the question the leaders of the organization", "start": 12116.8, "end": 12122.12}, {"text": "thank you thank you thank you are there any other questions of the speaker thank you for joining us Mr", "start": 12122.12, "end": 12128.88}, {"text": "Babs our next speaker is Irene", "start": 12128.88, "end": 12134.12}, {"text": "Tes welcome to the Comm Community Council Irene uh you have five minutes to speak good afternoon Mr chair uh city", "start": 12134.84, "end": 12141.76}, {"text": "council it's been a very long morning so I'm going to try to keep this very brief", "start": 12141.76, "end": 12148.12}, {"text": "and uh shine a little bit of a different light and my involvement I am a supporter of the Heritage application", "start": 12148.12, "end": 12155.199}, {"text": "and hopefully the future designation of 3100 Weston Road including uh the prayer", "start": 12155.199, "end": 12161.56}, {"text": "garden and the shrine my parents uh met father basle 20 years ago approximately", "start": 12161.56, "end": 12169.199}, {"text": "and were involved from the very beginning in the development and um", "start": 12169.199, "end": 12175.319}, {"text": "strictly really the development and the growth of the shrine my parents had my father's background who now is deceased", "start": 12175.319, "end": 12182.16}, {"text": "2 years ago but my father's background was in engineering he had run water lines to the gardens for underground", "start": 12182.16, "end": 12189.439}, {"text": "sprinklers um my parents had donated the two angels that were part of the shr", "start": 12189.439, "end": 12196.88}, {"text": "they had imported them from Italy um at a cost of Their Own It was $2,500 for", "start": 12196.88, "end": 12202.56}, {"text": "the donation of the Angels they had donated money to the stainless glass", "start": 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"everybody and anybody and everybody could come at any given time so there was nothing illegal ever done", "start": 12308.88, "end": 12316.88}, {"text": "um recently approximately 7 years ago the uh priests father myin and Father", "start": 12316.88, "end": 12326.64}, {"text": "Basil both passed away and two new priests were put into that place my", "start": 12326.64, "end": 12336.279}, {"text": "background I've been a local realtor for over 12 years the ownership from a non", "start": 12336.279, "end": 12343.16}, {"text": "for-profit organization had changed by these two people to a holding", "start": 12343.16, "end": 12349.72}, {"text": "company and then properties started to be sold they were in possession of", "start": 12349.72, "end": 12355.64}, {"text": "various properties in the city of Toronto One Church on Von Road was sold", "start": 12355.64, "end": 12361.239}, {"text": "but all of them ironically were all sold under the impact evaluation and off", "start": 12361.239, "end": 12367.359}, {"text": "Market I'm not here to make any judgment and I not here to comment on that I'm", "start": 12367.359, "end": 12372.76}, {"text": "simply stating that so I'm here to point point out that my parents have contributed a great amount of time", "start": 12372.76, "end": 12380.319}, {"text": "effort and finances in this particular uh Shrine the shrine has grown", "start": 12380.319, "end": 12386}, {"text": "organically and it sees thousands of community members and people from", "start": 12386, "end": 12391.52}, {"text": "everywhere every part of the city coming whether it's meditating praying", "start": 12391.52, "end": 12397.359}, {"text": "whatever it is that they're doing they're there they're physically there here we've got a large number just", "start": 12397.359, "end": 12402.88}, {"text": "supporting I've been here since 9:30 this morning with my mother 83 years old on a walker it's because we care there's", "start": 12402.88, "end": 12410.72}, {"text": "a large community involvement and support and the buyer knew about this", "start": 12410.72, "end": 12417.64}, {"text": "well prior because he had been seen at the property for months before the", "start": 12417.64, "end": 12423.04}, {"text": "property had closed you can't make a part of 401 private grounds and I'm a", "start": 12423.04, "end": 12430.319}, {"text": "strong believer to wrap it up that all great things start from small I hope", "start": 12430.319, "end": 12436.92}, {"text": "that you the council and Mr chair see the Great Value that this holds to so", "start": 12436.92, "end": 12443.239}, {"text": "many people appreciate that and give us the ability to really make this place what", "start": 12443.239, "end": 12450.08}, {"text": "it should be a place of Heritage and a community thank you very much any", "start": 12450.08, "end": 12455.239}, {"text": "questions of the speaker seeing none thank you for joining us um I have one more speaker on", "start": 12455.239, "end": 12462.72}, {"text": "the list here that is Gian Franco Cho Jan Franco welcome to the uto your", "start": 12462.72, "end": 12470.08}, {"text": "community council you have five minutes please begin when you're ready welcome good afternoon chair and everybody here", "start": 12470.08, "end": 12476.279}, {"text": "um no point of repeating everything that was said today I think was all valid points what I do want the focus to be on", "start": 12476.279, "end": 12483.64}, {"text": "is as you can see and tell by the rhetoric of the new owner the way that", "start": 12483.64, "end": 12489.96}, {"text": "he spoke with counselor peruta and acknowledged the staff goes to show what", "start": 12489.96, "end": 12495.12}, {"text": "we are dealing with as a community he paints us as squatters we're not", "start": 12495.12, "end": 12500.319}, {"text": "squatters there's a current lease in effect that allows people from the", "start": 12500.319, "end": 12505.439}, {"text": "community to come to that property whether it's the the soccer fields whether it's the Park Community Center", "start": 12505.439, "end": 12511.199}, {"text": "it doesn't matter Mr CH if I may in the same way that I I cautioned others if", "start": 12511.199, "end": 12516.319}, {"text": "you could just please address it the fair and not no I'm trying to yeah no", "start": 12516.319, "end": 12522.88}, {"text": "problem so it's it's very important that to for you the chair and everybody to", "start": 12522.88, "end": 12528.08}, {"text": "know that we need the support here the shrine is not a make believe it's not about having an organization like some", "start": 12528.08, "end": 12534.92}, {"text": "have mentioned the shrine the fact that it was put together with the priest that was there given a Blessing by the bishop", "start": 12534.92, "end": 12542.68}, {"text": "at the time with the community members goes to show the validity of it it was", "start": 12542.68, "end": 12547.88}, {"text": "mentioned that the arch dasy of Toronto does not recognize it and that the V Vatican does not recognize it that is", "start": 12547.88, "end": 12554.279}, {"text": "not true the arch Das of Toronto Cardinal Collins LED Mass there if", "start": 12554.279, "end": 12559.6}, {"text": "anybody knows about priests of the Catholic Church you are not allowed to lead Mass outside of the church even to", "start": 12559.6, "end": 12565.52}, {"text": "Wed somebody without permission from the asaii there's been multiple priests come", "start": 12565.52, "end": 12572.239}, {"text": "to that property and led Mass over the years it was recognized the problem is", "start": 12572.239, "end": 12577.399}, {"text": "the archi does not own that property the property was owned by a separate entity", "start": 12577.399, "end": 12582.72}, {"text": "the Epic Arch the Ukrainian eparchy of Toronto so that's why a lot of people", "start": 12582.72, "end": 12588.239}, {"text": "say oh or actually should say it was mentioned I'm not going to say who but you know who that the property was not", "start": 12588.239, "end": 12595.239}, {"text": "recognized by the church not true at all there's been countless videos pictures of how priests Cardinals people from", "start": 12595.239, "end": 12602}, {"text": "Vatican come came to that site and honored that site the problem is they", "start": 12602, "end": 12607.04}, {"text": "don't own it and when it was sold and we contacted the arch dasis saying hey like you know is there any way that you can", "start": 12607.04, "end": 12612.76}, {"text": "help us they say that we had no knowledge that it was being sold because if it was we definitely would have been", "start": 12612.76, "end": 12618.439}, {"text": "interested because they understand the sacredness of that site it's nothing that was made believ by a few community", "start": 12618.439, "end": 12624.439}, {"text": "members putting some statues together I'll put statues in my backyard like it was mentioned but Miracles at that site", "start": 12624.439, "end": 12629.88}, {"text": "cannot be moved just like grave sites are not moved the fact that there statues there that was put forth by the", "start": 12629.88, "end": 12635.12}, {"text": "community made that Garden even more beautiful he speaks about making it keeping a heritage site no problem the", "start": 12635.12, "end": 12641.16}, {"text": "river Meat House is here the shrine is here this the field is here so you're", "start": 12641.16, "end": 12646.479}, {"text": "going to keep that you're going to keep the field that what are you going to do in the middle that's all Heritage that whole part there you cannot build there", "start": 12646.479, "end": 12653.76}, {"text": "because of where it is okay we have to understand that the river meat he claims that he wants to keep the house there's", "start": 12653.76, "end": 12659.84}, {"text": "already been videos that he had disposal bids at that house and started doing some construction inside the house and", "start": 12659.84, "end": 12666}, {"text": "he by officers were called to stop it so at the end of the day we have to really see and I understand I'm not putting", "start": 12666, "end": 12671.479}, {"text": "blame on him maybe he was misled whatever it is all I can tell you is that as a community the history here is", "start": 12671.479, "end": 12677.52}, {"text": "that the community kept that set alive we got solar panels to light up the", "start": 12677.52, "end": 12683.76}, {"text": "place cameras there we had stand that goes there buys candles and we give him", "start": 12683.76, "end": 12689.399}, {"text": "money for the candles there's no illegal things going on there the fact that people donated statues taking care of the property people coming and gardening", "start": 12689.399, "end": 12696.04}, {"text": "there there are no squatters there grandmothers my aunt my mother women", "start": 12696.04, "end": 12701.76}, {"text": "that come there and pray from different religious backgrounds too I've seen people because at the end of the day it", "start": 12701.76, "end": 12707.279}, {"text": "was a pace of Solace it's not what he says about that we're squatters no and", "start": 12707.279, "end": 12712.56}, {"text": "we and the lady mentioned about being on the soccer field no the reality is that we were given permission by the owner to", "start": 12712.56, "end": 12719.72}, {"text": "be on the hill since he closed everything off we do not go on that field unless there's no games going on", "start": 12719.72, "end": 12726.359}, {"text": "when there's no games going on two times because it was a larger Gathering and there were organized Gathering because that's what happens with the rosary that", "start": 12726.359, "end": 12732.76}, {"text": "we go on that field every night we don't step foot on that field we have videos", "start": 12732.76, "end": 12738.199}, {"text": "there's a Facebook page you can go and check out we are on the hill we are way far away from the from the field so we", "start": 12738.199, "end": 12744.12}, {"text": "don't stop anybody from playing soccer nothing I just think that it's very important for this Council to know the", "start": 12744.12, "end": 12750.279}, {"text": "the beauty of this place the religious aspect the Heritage the historical value it all sums in together at the end of", "start": 12750.279, "end": 12757.479}, {"text": "the day we want to work with the you new owners whether he wants to work with us or not whether it's a you know a ship", "start": 12757.479, "end": 12763.04}, {"text": "that's sailed we need the help from this Council to help the community defend what is", "start": 12763.04, "end": 12769.88}, {"text": "truly a historical and Heritage Place that's all I have to say thank you are there any", "start": 12769.88, "end": 12778.68}, {"text": "questions are there any questions of the speaker seeing none uh that's the end of the list I will ask um if there is", "start": 12780.12, "end": 12788.239}, {"text": "anyone that has been missed that uh wanted to speak seeing none uh thank you", "start": 12788.239, "end": 12796.279}, {"text": "uh questions of Staff just um um very briefly I I know", "start": 12796.279, "end": 12803.64}, {"text": "that U that Gary MMA is here um just if you could um you know in a nutshell", "start": 12803.64, "end": 12811}, {"text": "really sort of sum up what we are doing here today okay because I know people", "start": 12811, "end": 12816.479}, {"text": "have been all over the map on it so thank you so uh this property was listed", "start": 12816.479, "end": 12823.16}, {"text": "on the North York inv of Heritage properties in 1997 moved on the city of", "start": 12823.16, "end": 12829.359}, {"text": "Toronto's uh list of properties Heritage registered in 2006 because of that early listing", "start": 12829.359, "end": 12836.279}, {"text": "statement it doesn't account for the full values that we see today of the", "start": 12836.279, "end": 12841.319}, {"text": "property so this is simply an amending of the listing statement it's not changing the status of the property it's", "start": 12841.319, "end": 12848.6}, {"text": "just amending the listing statement so that it's referencing uh the full dimensions of the property including any", "start": 12848.6, "end": 12854.96}, {"text": "values that might be related to the school as well as the rear yard and of course the shrine as it relates to a", "start": 12854.96, "end": 12862.239}, {"text": "community value no that's it uh seeing none", "start": 12862.239, "end": 12870.72}, {"text": "question Deputy Mayor Morland thank you Mr chair through you to staff thank you for being with us today um question for", "start": 12870.72, "end": 12876.96}, {"text": "you as it relates to this uh item before us what are the impacts uh of us moving", "start": 12876.96, "end": 12883.08}, {"text": "forward with this listing both for the shrine as we've seen and heard very clearly a a strong community of support", "start": 12883.08, "end": 12891.08}, {"text": "um and we also have heard on the opposite side of the existing property", "start": 12891.08, "end": 12896.359}, {"text": "owner and their intentions what are the impacts of this listing uh of us moving forward with this listing today on both", "start": 12896.359, "end": 12902.279}, {"text": "groups thanks for that question so what listing really means two things I think", "start": 12902.279, "end": 12908.199}, {"text": "in this scenario first of all it requires a property owner to give the city of Toronto 60 days notice if they", "start": 12908.199, "end": 12915.199}, {"text": "intend to demolish a structure of building on the property uh so that's", "start": 12915.199, "end": 12920.96}, {"text": "number one that's all listings what a revised listing statement does for us in this case is", "start": 12920.96, "end": 12927.04}, {"text": "when the owner himself has said today that they are contemplating plans for change for the property a revised", "start": 12927.04, "end": 12933.6}, {"text": "listing statement simply speaks more clearly of broader values to the site", "start": 12933.6, "end": 12938.64}, {"text": "that will need to be considered as a part of any development application and in particular a", "start": 12938.64, "end": 12944.04}, {"text": "development application on a listed property must include a Heritage impact assessment and that document is", "start": 12944.04, "end": 12951.04}, {"text": "something that is produced uh by the owner of the property with Heritage Consultants uh to speak to the values of", "start": 12951.04, "end": 12957.8}, {"text": "the site and to speak to how their plans may or may not impact the values of the", "start": 12957.8, "end": 12963.76}, {"text": "site so we start on a clearer uh level and a clearer playing field is the", "start": 12963.76, "end": 12968.8}, {"text": "intention of this that's really what this what this does", "start": 12968.8, "end": 12973.601}, {"text": "today thank you are there any other questions all right um members of", "start": 12974.56, "end": 12980.279}, {"text": "council wishing to speak Council", "start": 12980.279, "end": 12985.359}, {"text": "approves uh thank you uh Mr chair so so you you've heard it uh really clear in", "start": 12986.08, "end": 12992.08}, {"text": "terms of what we are doing here today we are amending a listing statement that", "start": 12992.08, "end": 12998.92}, {"text": "was established in 1997 I'm going to add lib here and I'm", "start": 12998.92, "end": 13004}, {"text": "assuming that in 19 1997 uh the house was listed because I", "start": 13004, "end": 13009.88}, {"text": "think the school closed down St Basel the great College school I believe", "start": 13009.88, "end": 13015.72}, {"text": "ceased to be uh a a an active High School my former Elma Mater I might", "start": 13015.72, "end": 13024.8}, {"text": "add that listing was migrated to the city of Toronto in in 2006 uh Under The", "start": 13024.88, "end": 13031.76}, {"text": "Amalgamated City but you'll see in the report the listing", "start": 13031.76, "end": 13037.52}, {"text": "statement um is is sort of um focuses in", "start": 13037.52, "end": 13043}, {"text": "on riverme um Cottage today's amended statement uh as", "start": 13043, "end": 13051.84}, {"text": "you've heard from Mr MMA is is that it now becomes much broader in terms of uh", "start": 13051.84, "end": 13060.04}, {"text": "looking at uh the entire site uh in terms of in terms of its", "start": 13060.04, "end": 13066.92}, {"text": "value that's that's what we're doing here today that's what um uh the action", "start": 13066.92, "end": 13072.199}, {"text": "of this community council uh will'll seek to do I understand that uh folks are", "start": 13072.199, "end": 13080.199}, {"text": "looking for a villain in this in this story but I just want to Simply say", "start": 13080.199, "end": 13086.84}, {"text": "this prior to July of this", "start": 13086.84, "end": 13092.6}, {"text": "year this was the activity that transpired here", "start": 13093.16, "end": 13099.52}, {"text": "that took place here for the past 18 years since", "start": 13099.52, "end": 13106.319}, {"text": "2006 so for 18 plus years people have", "start": 13108.56, "end": 13114.88}, {"text": "been congregating onto this site peacefully", "start": 13114.88, "end": 13121.88}, {"text": "praying finding that spiritual solace uh the people are looking for and they've", "start": 13121.88, "end": 13128.279}, {"text": "done it with the um knowledge and", "start": 13128.279, "end": 13134.96}, {"text": "blessings of the former owners the Brazilian order the the Brazilian uh uh", "start": 13134.96, "end": 13140.96}, {"text": "order that own the site so while", "start": 13140.96, "end": 13148.239}, {"text": "the the the app the the um uh um I", "start": 13148.239, "end": 13154.199}, {"text": "forgot his names uh the Mr Babs I believe while Mr Babs is looking for a", "start": 13154.199, "end": 13159.6}, {"text": "villain peruta was invited on site counselor yeah through the chair no no no no through the chair Mr chair yeah no", "start": 13159.6, "end": 13166.88}, {"text": "I I'm not going to go there I'm not going to uh take the bait and do that um", "start": 13166.88, "end": 13172.239}, {"text": "but I came on to the site in July why because the the site um was in", "start": 13172.239, "end": 13180.6}, {"text": "transition to be sold and the new owners had um decided", "start": 13180.6, "end": 13188.72}, {"text": "to take a Hardline uh approach to the um to the", "start": 13188.72, "end": 13195.279}, {"text": "shrine and to the uh peaceful assembly of people onto the", "start": 13195.279, "end": 13201.359}, {"text": "shrine something that they had been doing uh for um a couple of", "start": 13201.359, "end": 13209.96}, {"text": "decades and the new owners then decided to bring Security on to the site and", "start": 13209.96, "end": 13217.439}, {"text": "with that security begin to sort of push people out and and uh try to limit uh", "start": 13217.439, "end": 13225.72}, {"text": "people's access to the site they've limited they've closed the site and uh", "start": 13225.72, "end": 13231.84}, {"text": "what we have done um is said to folks this is a community center and when the", "start": 13231.84, "end": 13238.88}, {"text": "fields are available um which have Lighting on them", "start": 13238.88, "end": 13244.92}, {"text": "you know because they're Sports Fields uh when the um fields are available you", "start": 13244.92, "end": 13250.239}, {"text": "can assemble on on the uh on the fields to recite the", "start": 13250.239, "end": 13258.239}, {"text": "rosary reciting the rosary has been labeled by um uh Mr Babs and I believe a", "start": 13258.239, "end": 13265.359}, {"text": "m uh um Miss Bongo labeled that uh a", "start": 13265.359, "end": 13271.08}, {"text": "protest since wind did reciting the", "start": 13271.08, "end": 13279.358}, {"text": "rosary and paying homage to", "start": 13279.64, "end": 13284.08}, {"text": "God escalate to being a protest a political assembly a", "start": 13284.84, "end": 13291.238}, {"text": "protest so we need to yeah I will wrap up Mr chair because I I know we've we've", "start": 13293.88, "end": 13299.56}, {"text": "we've belabored this um uh somewhat so I would just simply say uh", "start": 13299.56, "end": 13305.88}, {"text": "to the new owners uh that this is a complicated site this is a site uh which", "start": 13305.88, "end": 13313.12}, {"text": "um you obviously uh want to do some things with uh to just simply come in", "start": 13313.12, "end": 13318.439}, {"text": "and talk to us about it and figure and we can figure out together uh hand in", "start": 13318.439, "end": 13323.479}, {"text": "hand how we go forward to make sure that your rights as a uh private uh property", "start": 13323.479, "end": 13330.84}, {"text": "owner and the community's desire uh uh to carry on with an activity uh that", "start": 13330.84, "end": 13337.479}, {"text": "they've been uh you're doing here for uh for several decades now uh that those", "start": 13337.479, "end": 13343.359}, {"text": "things are able to uh coexist uh um uh with each other uh and I think that", "start": 13343.359, "end": 13349.279}, {"text": "that's all we are looking for we're looking for a peaceful uh Way Forward uh", "start": 13349.279, "end": 13355.239}, {"text": "with you and if today is is the first step in that process uh then I think", "start": 13355.239, "end": 13360.84}, {"text": "we'd all welcome that thank you Council pra just for clarity for the committee there is a report and a supplementary", "start": 13360.84, "end": 13367.319}, {"text": "I'm moving the the the report uh the there's a supplementary sorry there is a", "start": 13367.319, "end": 13374.04}, {"text": "supplementary from the Tonto preservation board correct yes yes are you moving that as well I am I am yes so", "start": 13374.04, "end": 13382.08}, {"text": "um I'll just check any other speakers Deputy Mayor moley just very", "start": 13382.08, "end": 13387.479}, {"text": "quickly and I just want to commend a you Mr chair my colleague Council pruta this is a very um uh intense we can feel the", "start": 13387.479, "end": 13395.92}, {"text": "energy on both sides of this issue and I just want to thank Edith who's in the audience today because I had the", "start": 13395.92, "end": 13401.439}, {"text": "pleasure of coming to the shrine um at Edis invitation and have had a chance to experience it in person um but what's", "start": 13401.439, "end": 13408.08}, {"text": "clear to me despite what whatever we do here as Community Council today is there's folks are very far away from one", "start": 13408.08, "end": 13415.12}, {"text": "another um this listing will not guarantee access will not you know necessarily change anything uh within", "start": 13415.12, "end": 13422.159}, {"text": "the current property owner and it really is going to take some mediation some leadership and coming together for folks", "start": 13422.159, "end": 13427.84}, {"text": "I think to come up with a you know a solution forward here so I'd like to again commend my colleague for a stated", "start": 13427.84, "end": 13434.279}, {"text": "desire to to play that role and to bring folks together um and I wish you all the best of luck thank you thank you Deputy", "start": 13434.279, "end": 13440.72}, {"text": "Mayor um I'll ask just for a bit of guidance on the sequence two", "start": 13440.72, "end": 13447.52}, {"text": "votes okay all right all right", "start": 13447.52, "end": 13456.199}, {"text": "okay on the supplementary", "start": 13458.96, "end": 13462.239}, {"text": "report even the computer's tired okay the supplementary report is", "start": 13471.08, "end": 13477.159}, {"text": "up there on the supplementary all those in favor any oppose that's carried on the item itself all those in favor any", "start": 13477.159, "end": 13484.68}, {"text": "oppose osed and that is carried Madam clerk did we get that right okay thank you um uh members uh there is an", "start": 13484.68, "end": 13493.479}, {"text": "additional item from councelor perucha that is", "start": 13493.479, "end": 13498.84}, {"text": "uh it's been introduced here just give me a second to scroll through this computer ey 8.27 no stopping on Strath", "start": 13499.84, "end": 13508.479}, {"text": "burn Boulevard um um questions to staff no questions of staff to speak", "start": 13508.479, "end": 13515.68}, {"text": "councelor peruta Mr chair there's just some minor parking changes in front of a school", "start": 13515.68, "end": 13522.399}, {"text": "where the school is experiencing some parking issues in the morning and I'm hoping that you support them uh any", "start": 13522.399, "end": 13528.92}, {"text": "members wishing to speak all right councelor peruta moves the recommendations in his letter all those", "start": 13528.92, "end": 13534}, {"text": "in favor any opposed that is carried uh members um I was informed that there was", "start": 13534, "end": 13539.88}, {"text": "a member of the public that did not get an opportunity to speak on ey 8.6 which", "start": 13539.88, "end": 13545.88}, {"text": "Mr chair point of order just before you proceed that I know that people are are leaving I just wanted to thank point of", "start": 13545.88, "end": 13551.68}, {"text": "um sorry I just wanted to thank uh the the the community members that came out", "start": 13551.68, "end": 13557}, {"text": "today uh to follow this issue along uh uh it's really good to see them out here and you can tell by the numbers of", "start": 13557, "end": 13563.479}, {"text": "people that showed up today not all of them spoke obviously uh because we'd still be here well until the late", "start": 13563.479, "end": 13568.88}, {"text": "afternoon that they did uh but they came here uh and it shows how important the", "start": 13568.88, "end": 13574.96}, {"text": "this issue is to them because at the end of the day uh uh Mr chair you know that", "start": 13574.96, "end": 13580.8}, {"text": "uh you know uh culture and Heritage uh lives in the hearts and minds of people and if and if um you know uh if this", "start": 13580.8, "end": 13589.159}, {"text": "site lives in the hearts and minds of all these folks that uh uh that came here today uh then from my perspective", "start": 13589.159, "end": 13596.76}, {"text": "um uh uh you know Mr madma will will know that that's that's really at the at", "start": 13596.76, "end": 13602.88}, {"text": "the heart of it all so I thank you very much for coming it's really important that you do thank you", "start": 13602.88, "end": 13608.88}, {"text": "councelor okay members uh we just I'm going to propose to reopen ey 8.7 which", "start": 13608.88, "end": 13614.96}, {"text": "is 5 gay Lord Avenue a request for fence exemption to allow a member to speak uh", "start": 13614.96, "end": 13620.279}, {"text": "may I uh have a motion to reopen Deputy Mayor moley all those in favor any", "start": 13620.279, "end": 13625.399}, {"text": "opposed that is carried the item is reopened so we are now at e8.75 gay Lord Avenue request for fence", "start": 13625.399, "end": 13631.92}, {"text": "exemption to the Toronto Municipal Code chapter 447 and the speaker that I have registered", "start": 13631.92, "end": 13637.92}, {"text": "is Daryl sedman is Daryl in the chamber great hi darl hi there um welcome to the", "start": 13637.92, "end": 13645.439}, {"text": "utopico York Community Council you have five minutes to speak please begin when you're ready thank you I appreciate you", "start": 13645.439, "end": 13651.239}, {"text": "reopening this uh I understand my knowledge of how this works didn't work out so well today so I appreciate it um", "start": 13651.239, "end": 13659.12}, {"text": "before you today I have a request for fence exemption for two minor variances", "start": 13659.12, "end": 13664.159}, {"text": "to the pool enclosure fence uh the majority of the fence as it has been", "start": 13664.159, "end": 13669.319}, {"text": "built conforms to the requirements of what fences should be for enclosure of the pool uh with the exception of two", "start": 13669.319, "end": 13676.08}, {"text": "small areas uh there is a variance request for at the top of the stairs", "start": 13676.08, "end": 13682.04}, {"text": "where there is an opening for the fence um where it is currently at 1.1 m in", "start": 13682.04, "end": 13688.52}, {"text": "height uh in about an inch of lip um and I understand that that's to be one .2 um", "start": 13688.52, "end": 13696.319}, {"text": "so there's a request there for a minor variance um the other is encroachment of", "start": 13696.319, "end": 13701.84}, {"text": "the built-in fire place or a rather a barbecue um and that also encroaches on", "start": 13701.84, "end": 13707.479}, {"text": "the fence uh for the covered porch area um as mentioned uh the other areas", "start": 13707.479, "end": 13713.8}, {"text": "of the fence are within conformance to the requirement of uh uh of pool", "start": 13713.8, "end": 13719.6}, {"text": "enclosure and um I do have uh 11 uh", "start": 13719.6, "end": 13725.12}, {"text": "neighbors who have also come forward to uh offer their support for what we're", "start": 13725.12, "end": 13730.239}, {"text": "proposing um there are two uh actions that have been advised by staff um on", "start": 13730.239, "end": 13737.52}, {"text": "this file one is to reject the uh request as submitted um the second as a", "start": 13737.52, "end": 13744.52}, {"text": "part of the uh uh description or comments from uh um from the submission", "start": 13744.52, "end": 13752.359}, {"text": "uh says that the alternate recommendation would would be to Grant the fence exemption as", "start": 13752.359, "end": 13757.92}, {"text": "requested um and uh require that the fence remains in uh in M uh properly", "start": 13757.92, "end": 13764}, {"text": "maintained uh form until it's to be replaced in which case it would then need to conform with the requirements um", "start": 13764, "end": 13770.72}, {"text": "so today I'm asking Council to uh approve that second um uh that uh that", "start": 13770.72, "end": 13776.72}, {"text": "second option and I'm available for questions should you have any thank you um any", "start": 13776.72, "end": 13783.64}, {"text": "questions may I pass the chair Vice chair thank you uh just a couple of questions thank", "start": 13783.64, "end": 13790.84}, {"text": "you for speaking to us um you would are you the owner of the I am the homeowner", "start": 13790.84, "end": 13796}, {"text": "yes my name is Daryl sesman did you build the enclosure I did not no I had", "start": 13796, "end": 13802.08}, {"text": "uh uh I mean we've been building for about two and a half years so um the", "start": 13802.08, "end": 13807.199}, {"text": "fence enclosure that surrounds the property was built by a professional uh", "start": 13807.199, "end": 13812.479}, {"text": "fence building team they conformed with uh proper automatic gate closure and and locking um the glass uh fence enclosure", "start": 13812.479, "end": 13820}, {"text": "was built by uh the same team that did glass throughout the house um again we", "start": 13820, "end": 13825.239}, {"text": "have an Engineers report which uh as far as the glass is concerned it does conform right um from the building of", "start": 13825.239, "end": 13831.319}, {"text": "the glass and there's just certain nuances which then uh put it outside of that who prepared the design for the", "start": 13831.319, "end": 13836.72}, {"text": "fence enclosure uh the design for uh the hardscaping on the property was done by", "start": 13836.72, "end": 13842.56}, {"text": "a landscape architecture team that we hady deployed uh underneath our overall", "start": 13842.56, "end": 13848.199}, {"text": "um architecture team for the home which is David small design which was the overall architecture um and we had uh a", "start": 13848.199, "end": 13855.199}, {"text": "separate landscape architecture design the fence enclosure so you had someone design it correct and someone buildt it", "start": 13855.199, "end": 13860.68}, {"text": "for you yes correct okay and so the deficiencies was the height and the placement of certain climbable items the", "start": 13860.68, "end": 13867.04}, {"text": "deficiencies were nuanced with kind of it would be the location of where the fence was in accordance to some of the", "start": 13867.04, "end": 13873.72}, {"text": "retaining walls and also in accordance to uh the barbecue build which were done by separate separate developers we got", "start": 13873.72, "end": 13880.479}, {"text": "pictures of that correct report uh okay um those were all my", "start": 13880.479, "end": 13886.12}, {"text": "questions thank you Vice chair thank you for joining us thank", "start": 13886.12, "end": 13891.641}, {"text": "you um okay I I thank you for speaking to us today uh earlier today um I moved", "start": 13894.12, "end": 13901.56}, {"text": "to adopt the staff recommendations which was to refuse application um never easier or or um", "start": 13901.56, "end": 13911.439}, {"text": "it's never easy to do that uh these are very important situations these are about uh safety in particular safety for", "start": 13911.439, "end": 13918.479}, {"text": "children um in this case uh there's a couple of things I noticed that was uh", "start": 13918.479, "end": 13924.239}, {"text": "some of the fence enclosure was changed somehow through the process and changed from a a 1.5 meter iron fence to Glass", "start": 13924.239, "end": 13933.479}, {"text": "and in that I guess a deficiency occurred near one of the gates the remedy of that of course is to put the", "start": 13933.479, "end": 13939.84}, {"text": "right height piece of glass to deal with that and then another situation occurred uh where there was um a built-in", "start": 13939.84, "end": 13946.399}, {"text": "barbecue and then a sort of a side cabinet that was built very close to the glass enclosure and again if you look", "start": 13946.399, "end": 13953.479}, {"text": "really carefully at it um you'll see even the designer put minimum height 1.2", "start": 13953.479, "end": 13959.359}, {"text": "M Glass enclosure somewhere along the lines it was built to the the way it is today", "start": 13959.359, "end": 13965.319}, {"text": "um I regret the homeowner is now in an awkward position where they've got a product that doesn't conform uh to what", "start": 13965.319, "end": 13973.159}, {"text": "the standards are and in this case it sounds like professionals designed it and built it um so I I am going to again", "start": 13973.159, "end": 13981.8}, {"text": "um move what I did before which was to refuse the application I hope the homeowner is able to work with the", "start": 13981.8, "end": 13988}, {"text": "people that installed it so that they uh install it in conformance with the requirements uh if they're experienced", "start": 13988, "end": 13994}, {"text": "in this um you know and I guess maybe it's a reputation issue is making sure that they adhere to the code I hope they", "start": 13994, "end": 14000.399}, {"text": "can fix it for you uh but I think at the end of the day you will have a much safer situation um and I hope that's", "start": 14000.399, "end": 14008.159}, {"text": "okay uh with that on the staff recommendations all those in favor any", "start": 14008.159, "end": 14013.319}, {"text": "opposed that is carried and I thank you for your patience and waiting as we went through all the", "start": 14013.319, "end": 14018.359}, {"text": "pieces okay uh Madam clerk do we have bills great", "start": 14018.359, "end": 14024.72}, {"text": "may I have a member move the bills please Deputy Mayor um move that bills", "start": 14037.88, "end": 14043.92}, {"text": "928 to 946 prepared for the October 16th 2023 meeting 8 of the atopico York", "start": 14043.92, "end": 14050.399}, {"text": "Community Council be declared as bylaws and passed subject to section 26.9 of the city of Toronto act 2006 all", "start": 14050.399, "end": 14058.52}, {"text": "those in favor any opposed that is carried another volunteer for the second", "start": 14058.52, "end": 14065.479}, {"text": "one deputy mayor uh moving that confirmatory bill is to confirm that legislative proceedings of the aobo York", "start": 14065.479, "end": 14072.319}, {"text": "Community Council acting under delegated authority at meeting 8 on October 16th 2023 be declared as bylaws and passed", "start": 14072.319, "end": 14080.239}, {"text": "subject to section 226.000 six all those in favor any opposed that", "start": 14080.239, "end": 14086.84}, {"text": "item is carried that was the last Vice chair peruta motion to adjourn", "start": 14086.84, "end": 14092.96}, {"text": "okay thank you everyone so move Mr chair all right thank you to everybody um appreciate everyone's contribution", "start": 14092.96, "end": 14101}, {"text": "today for", "start": 14113.319, "end": 14117.319}]