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to call the November 26 2024 Community Services committee meeting to order Grimsby is", "start": 1323.24, "end": 1330.679}, {"text": "situated on treaty land this land is steeped in the rich history of the First Nations such as the hwand the honi the", "start": 1330.679, "end": 1337.2}, {"text": "Anish naab including the Mrs sagas of the Credit First Nation there are many First Nations mate in Inuit people from", "start": 1337.2, "end": 1343.559}, {"text": "across Turtle Island that live and work in niagar today the regional Municipality of niagar and grim stands", "start": 1343.559, "end": 1349.08}, {"text": "with all indigenous people past and present in promoting the wise stewardship of the lands in which we", "start": 1349.08, "end": 1354.36}, {"text": "live are there any disclosures of pecuniary or non-pecuniary interest seeing none before we approve", "start": 1354.36, "end": 1362.559}, {"text": "the agenda we'll be amending the order of the agenda to consider reports DCS", "start": 1362.559, "end": 1368.4}, {"text": "2464 and DCS 2465 after their respective delegations questions for the delegates", "start": 1368.4, "end": 1375.039}, {"text": "and staff may be asked after each presentation can I get a mover and a seconder to approve the agenda as", "start": 1375.039, "end": 1381.48}, {"text": "amended okay move by member bont and seconded by uh councelor", "start": 1381.48, "end": 1389.48}, {"text": "deflavio resolved that the November 26 2024 Community Services committee agenda", "start": 1390.32, "end": 1396.2}, {"text": "be approved as amended all in favor it's", "start": 1396.2, "end": 1401.36}, {"text": "carried can I have a mover and a seconder to receive the following committee meeting minutes", "start": 1402.36, "end": 1410.32}, {"text": "okay moved by member Le and seconded by member bont resolve that the following", "start": 1410.64, "end": 1417.279}, {"text": "committee meeting minutes be received Grimsby Santa Claus Parade committee September 9th 2024 Grimsby Santa Claus", "start": 1417.279, "end": 1423.32}, {"text": "Parade committee October 8th 2024 Community Services committee November 5th 2024 Grimsby Santa Claus Parade", "start": 1423.32, "end": 1430.559}, {"text": "committee November 6th 2024 age friendly advisory committee November 9th 19th", "start": 1430.559, "end": 1436.44}, {"text": "2024 Grimsby Santa Claus parade committee November 19th 2024 mayor's", "start": 1436.44, "end": 1441.64}, {"text": "youth advisory committee November 19th 2024 all in favor okay that's", "start": 1441.64, "end": 1448}, {"text": "carried moving on to item six delegations and presentations uh tonight", "start": 1448, "end": 1453.12}, {"text": "we have two delegations the first is from Chun leang from uh Treehouse Energy", "start": 1453.12, "end": 1458.559}, {"text": "Services regarding the energy conservation and demand uh management plan Chung Lee please come to the podium", "start": 1458.559, "end": 1468.48}, {"text": "and you're on yeah thank you uh members of council and and members yes uh so if", "start": 1469.559, "end": 1476.44}, {"text": "we can get the first slide up that'd be great", "start": 1476.44, "end": 1480.158}, {"text": "Noah yes so um just a a very brief uh", "start": 1483.64, "end": 1489.679}, {"text": "kind of overview of the uh the energy uh conservation and demand management plan that's required by regulation Ontario", "start": 1489.679, "end": 1496.159}, {"text": "regulation 5078 um next", "start": 1496.159, "end": 1502.639}, {"text": "slide so um the uh Ju Just to sort of", "start": 1503.039, "end": 1508.24}, {"text": "reiterate um this uh this plan is is one uh piece of a larger P puzzle um and", "start": 1508.24, "end": 1515.559}, {"text": "we'll need to do do a bit more uh sewing collectively to to kind of build that quilt of our emissions and energy piture", "start": 1515.559, "end": 1523.279}, {"text": "um so so uh just a bit about uh my uh my", "start": 1523.279, "end": 1528.96}, {"text": "consultancy um if we can go to the next slide so um the consultancy treeh house", "start": 1528.96, "end": 1536.559}, {"text": "we advise on on climate care through decarbonization uh primarily in in the buildings uh sector and uh we we try to", "start": 1536.559, "end": 1544.36}, {"text": "practice net zero emissions um uh I also uh work uh part-time for the Federation", "start": 1544.36, "end": 1551.12}, {"text": "of Canan municipalities uh I serve on their peerreview uh uh committee for funding applications so um so that's", "start": 1551.12, "end": 1558.88}, {"text": "just a a bit about uh what I do if we can go to the next", "start": 1558.88, "end": 1564.48}, {"text": "slide and those are my four uh major pieces in terms of uh my my services um", "start": 1564.64, "end": 1570.76}, {"text": "so yeah we can get into uh the Grimsby conservation and man management", "start": 1570.76, "end": 1576.76}, {"text": "plan so um yeah as as mentioned before um and there has been an 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{"text": "know retrogrades like retrofits whether they would cause any issues with the", "start": 2312.2, "end": 2317.48}, {"text": "neighbors because we're trying to be you know as mindful of that as possible I know our manager of parks and rack has", "start": 2317.48, "end": 2323.839}, {"text": "had some complaints so we want to make sure that that's the case so are there any recommendations there as", "start": 2323.839, "end": 2329.92}, {"text": "well yeah so in terms of disruption and and um uh the one of the uh you know", "start": 2329.92, "end": 2338.28}, {"text": "recommendations is is for solar and um you know honestly um apart from you know", "start": 2338.28, "end": 2344.24}, {"text": "the delivery of the panels and and and you know the the the craning and the lifting up to the roof there really", "start": 2344.24, "end": 2350.079}, {"text": "isn't too much um uh sort of A disruption um the only thing I can see", "start": 2350.079, "end": 2356.92}, {"text": "is if you have to 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working with uh treeh host Energy Services on as sort of a secondary piece to this work so we are trying to get to", "start": 2399.76, "end": 2405.96}, {"text": "that point where we will meet the criteria to be able to go after some of those green Municipal funds and different things as well so just wanted", "start": 2405.96, "end": 2411.44}, {"text": "to share that with the committee that's great thank you okay resolve that the delegation from Treehouse Energy", "start": 2411.44, "end": 2418.119}, {"text": "Services be received and that report DCS 2464 energy conservation and demand", "start": 2418.119, "end": 2424.24}, {"text": "management plan dated November 26 2024 be received for information all in favor", "start": 2424.24, "end": 2430.28}, {"text": "that's carried thank you very much appreciate you coming thank you thank you", "start": 2430.28, "end": 2438.88}, {"text": "everyone um director Sweeny is our second delegation online they are okay perfect so the second delegation is from", "start": 2441.16, "end": 2448.48}, {"text": "Leandra Corel Fort Ferguson and Stacy zoval from the think design regarding", "start": 2448.48, "end": 2453.839}, {"text": "the parks master plan and providing a project update Leandra and", "start": 2453.839, "end": 2459.56}, {"text": "Stacy yep the floor is yours thanks great can you hear me okay", "start": 2459.56, "end": 2466.24}, {"text": "everybody yes we can awesome thanks for welcoming us here", "start": 2466.24, "end": 2471.96}, {"text": "tonight uh for an update on the parks master plan project as you mentioned my name is Leandra and I'm an associate and", "start": 2471.96, "end": 2479.319}, {"text": "planner at think design and I'm joined by Stacy who's a project manager and landscape", "start": 2479.319, "end": 2485.599}, {"text": "architect um you'll have to excuse me tonight I am battling a cold so hope my throat", "start": 2485.599, "end": 2492.119}, {"text": "doesn't give out on me um yeah so think design is a small firm based in Toronto", "start": 2492.119, "end": 2497.64}, {"text": "since 2011 and we specialize in Parks Trails Waterfront Recreation and other", "start": 2497.64, "end": 2503.48}, {"text": "public realm Master plans as well as the design and implementation of those", "start": 2503.48, "end": 2509.24}, {"text": "projects next Slide the agenda for tonight is to First", "start": 2509.24, "end": 2515.599}, {"text": "give a project overview discuss the community context uh the consultation", "start": 2515.599, "end": 2520.839}, {"text": "approach and findings and the vision uh goals are that should say pillars and", "start": 2520.839, "end": 2526.119}, {"text": "guiding principles next the project", "start": 2526.119, "end": 2532.28}, {"text": "overview next slide next slide", "start": 2532.28, "end": 2538.559}, {"text": "please okay so the purpose of a Parks master plan it's a guiding document for", "start": 2538.559, "end": 2544.04}, {"text": "the next 10 years it uses a broad set of data including surveys interviews", "start": 2544.04, "end": 2550.2}, {"text": "facility use Trends local opportunities Etc it should be viewed as a living", "start": 2550.2, "end": 2556.88}, {"text": "document to help staff and Council determine annual work plans and budgets", "start": 2556.88, "end": 2562.4}, {"text": "so as such recommend recommendations may be Advanced or delayed or tweaked in", "start": 2562.4, "end": 2568.079}, {"text": "relation to other Municipal priorities or concurrent opportunities funding or other factors that may arise a master", "start": 2568.079, "end": 2576.2}, {"text": "plan is high so some of the recommendations will require additional Community", "start": 2576.2, "end": 2581.44}, {"text": "consultation to arrive at detailed design and costing next", "start": 2581.44, "end": 2588.319}, {"text": "slide so this graphic is showing the project phases and scope um first phase", "start": 2588.319, "end": 2594.04}, {"text": "was background review we started 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the other side of the New Year the plan will be um shared with", "start": 2635.4, "end": 2641.559}, {"text": "the community for another round of review and it will be finalized next", "start": 2641.559, "end": 2649.72}, {"text": "slide all right so a bit about the community context next slide these numbers were provided from", "start": 2649.72, "end": 2656.559}, {"text": "the town and Region's official plans um basically showing the anticipated population growth which will be about", "start": 2656.559, "end": 2663.319}, {"text": "2,000 people added in the next 10 years and this is just a map showing the", "start": 2663.319, "end": 2668.839}, {"text": "distribution of parks uh in the town kind of shows that they're quite evenly distributed across the urban", "start": 2668.839, "end": 2676}, {"text": "area next slide all right so this is just", "start": 2676, "end": 2681.839}, {"text": "summarizing some of the key takeaways from the background review and uh soci demographic profile so 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{"text": "people as possible so we engage residents community members youth m", "start": 2781.24, "end": 2787.559}, {"text": "staff stakeholders um to get a gain a range of perspectives priorities", "start": 2787.559, "end": 2794.119}, {"text": "concerns um and reduce the risk of Overlook looking a particular group so", "start": 2794.119, "end": 2800.72}, {"text": "for this project um we we also did a variety of approaches for our", "start": 2800.72, "end": 2806.559}, {"text": "consultation so we uh conducted a telephone survey uh random", "start": 2806.559, "end": 2813.52}, {"text": "openhouse uh openhouse questionnaires an online engage engagement platform on the", "start": 2813.52, "end": 2818.839}, {"text": "ground engagement sessions including two youth focused Camp sessions as well as", "start": 2818.839, "end": 2824.28}, {"text": "several interviews with counselor staff and user groups next", "start": 2824.28, "end": 2831}, {"text": "slide so our key findings uh here's a list these are topics that came up U", "start": 2831, "end": 2837.319}, {"text": "multiple times across all the different consultations um so basically they're", "start": 2837.319, "end": 2843.2}, {"text": "priorities for us um and in the next slides we'll go through each consultation type and in a little", "start": 2843.2, "end": 2849.88}, {"text": "more detail next slide so first uh Council", "start": 2849.88, "end": 2855.64}, {"text": "and staff interviews um so counselors and staff highlighted the need for Park upgrades", "start": 2855.64, "end": 2862.92}, {"text": "better management and enforcement uh more diverse activities op and optimized", "start": 2862.92, "end": 2868.88}, {"text": "Parkland um they also highlighted leveraging Partnerships and Waterfront", "start": 2868.88, "end": 2873.96}, {"text": "spaces and also focusing on funding and resource", "start": 2873.96, "end": 2879.559}, {"text": "efficiency next slide during the stakeholder interviews", "start": 2879.68, "end": 2885.4}, {"text": "with user groups uh they emphasize a need for more accessible town-owned facilities including barrier-free", "start": 2885.4, "end": 2892.599}, {"text": "washrooms and courts to serve all demographics um they noted limited", "start": 2892.599, "end": 2898.92}, {"text": "amenities hinder participation and professional Pathways of requiring", "start": 2898.92, "end": 2904.079}, {"text": "travel to other municipalities they also seek clear more formalized agreements with the town to", "start": 2904.079, "end": 2909.88}, {"text": "streamline their operations and facility use um Council committees feedback key", "start": 2909.88, "end": 2919.28}, {"text": "priorities here uh improving tree canopy managing invasive species and enhancing", "start": 2919.28, "end": 2924.96}, {"text": "green infrastructure to improve sustainability they also focused on", "start": 2924.96, "end": 2931.76}, {"text": "Equitable Equitable parking improvements um especially in areas that have uh", 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2982.24, "end": 2987.24}, {"text": "courts um youth engagement this is a graphic that's included in our report", "start": 2988, "end": 2993.799}, {"text": "basically highlighting the key points um from our youth engagement sessions um each Park you can see little", "start": 2993.799, "end": 3001.16}, {"text": "comments uh what the youth thought of could be improved and what they liked uh", "start": 3001.16, "end": 3006.88}, {"text": "what they didn't like and all all of that uh next", "start": 3006.88, "end": 3012.72}, {"text": "slide similarly this is a graphic highlighting our online engagement", "start": 3012.72, "end": 3017.88}, {"text": "feedback um again it's showing different ideas what what people liked didn't like", "start": 3017.88, "end": 3022.92}, {"text": "suggestions as well um for the different parks", "start": 3022.92, "end": 3028.16}, {"text": "next slide um our online community board uh", "start": 3028.16, "end": 3033.76}, {"text": "this is basically uh ideas so you can see several of those ideas highlighted", "start": 3033.76, "end": 3041.079}, {"text": "here and next uh our resident surveys so this is", "start": 3041.24, "end": 3046.52}, {"text": "a table showing or comparing um different data we received from our", "start": 3046.52, "end": 3051.799}, {"text": "online survey survey openhouse handout and uh random telephone survey and", "start": 3051.799, "end": 3057.92}, {"text": "basically what you can see from this table is that uh this is why we conduct a variety of", "start": 3057.92, "end": 3063.88}, {"text": "consultations uh types and um with different groups because you can see the data is quite varied across across the", "start": 3063.88, "end": 3072}, {"text": "table uh we can see that people are generally satisfied with the condition of parks but they're less satisfied with", "start": 3072, "end": 3078.64}, {"text": "the amount of parks for example and I believe this is my last slide we go to the next one yep so I'll", "start": 3078.64, "end": 3086.599}, {"text": "pass it back to Leandra to to finish off thanks", "start": 3086.599, "end": 3093.359}, {"text": "St okay um vision and guiding principles so the Consulting team met", "start": 3093.359, "end": 3100}, {"text": "with a varied group of staff to discuss the background and Community consultation findings and to brainstorm", "start": 3100, "end": 3106.76}, {"text": "for a vision and guiding principles we then took all of that and we drafted uh", "start": 3106.76, "end": 3112.44}, {"text": "Vision pillars and guiding principles and we finalized them with staff um so", "start": 3112.44, "end": 3118.119}, {"text": "this is just a reminder slide what is a vision it's a bold high-reaching statement that describes the future", "start": 3118.119, "end": 3125.4}, {"text": "state next slide and water are guiding principles", "start": 3125.4, "end": 3131.48}, {"text": "uh they are a collective predetermined position that influences decision-", "start": 3131.48, "end": 3137}, {"text": "making next slide so uh we will then use the part uh", "start": 3137, "end": 3143.72}, {"text": "the vision pillars and guiding principles um to as sort of a a check as", "start": 3143.72, "end": 3150.04}, {"text": "we're working you know as we're doing the assessments this is always in the background and it's there and we'll look at it are we are we aligned with what we", "start": 3150.04, "end": 3157.4}, {"text": "said with staff and Council and the community through all the community consultation what everybody said is it", "start": 3157.4, "end": 3162.92}, {"text": "in line is it reflected in this plan um and the pillars really that came up again through the brainstorming session", "start": 3162.92, "end": 3169.319}, {"text": "where it was really these kind of key words that really resonated with people and uh The Guiding principles flow from", "start": 3169.319, "end": 3176}, {"text": "them so the vision is a community connected through vibrant Park", 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active we will support", "start": 3223.2, "end": 3230.2}, {"text": "healthy active living by providing a range of amenities and facilities for play sport and Recreation", "start": 3230.2, "end": 3236.96}, {"text": "and flexible we will move towards flexible multi-use Park spaces to accommodate a variety of activities and", "start": 3236.96, "end": 3243.2}, {"text": "changing Trends and that concludes our update for", "start": 3243.2, "end": 3249.24}, {"text": "now thank you very much thank you thank you for your delegation can I get a", "start": 3249.24, "end": 3255.4}, {"text": "mover and a seconder to get the parks master plan progress report on the floor for discussion uh move by counselor", "start": 3255.4, "end": 3263.04}, {"text": "deflavio seconded by counselor how we have any questions councelor", "start": 3263.04, "end": 3270.96}, {"text": "deavia thank you through you chair", "start": 3270.96, "end": 3275.24}, {"text": "so I was expecting a summary of the actual plan not uh how we got there so", "start": 3276.72, "end": 3283.48}, {"text": "are we going to is there going to be a presentation on the content of the actual plan it's a 311 page document", "start": 3283.48, "end": 3290.76}, {"text": "this is more talking about process than what it actually what what the document", "start": 3290.76, "end": 3296}, {"text": "said so is that coming I mean the doc because the document that's what I thought the presentation was going to be", "start": 3296, "end": 3302}, {"text": "about focus on more was the actual document than the than the process so I", "start": 3302, "end": 3307.319}, {"text": "I don't know through you chair if you somebody can answer that director Sweeney if you can possibly answer that", "start": 3307.319, "end": 3312.64}, {"text": "sure through the chair so definitely when the plan is prepared yes so the plan isn't prepared yet so we're just", "start": 3312.64, "end": 3318.2}, {"text": "telling you sort of where we're at in the stage right now so you can see the process that we've gotten to so far and", "start": 3318.2, "end": 3323.28}, {"text": "where we're at and then you will see the final plan so this is not the only time uh you will see the team here before you", "start": 3323.28, "end": 3329.599}, {"text": "they will be coming to you again with the final plan as well we just wanted to give you an update to let you know where we're going and I think share a little", "start": 3329.599, "end": 3335.44}, {"text": "bit of just about what we're hearing and what we are working on in terms of some of the the key pieces that we're", "start": 3335.44, "end": 3342.039}, {"text": "learning and just yeah I I'm actually going to be asking a few questions and providing some of my feedback as well", "start": 3342.039, "end": 3348.24}, {"text": "but are there any questions right now uh in addition councelor flamia yeah uh so if I could through you chair um if we're", "start": 3348.24, "end": 3355.72}, {"text": "talk when when we get to 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are things in our budget and this kind of relates to you but kind of", "start": 3400.72, "end": 3406.92}, {"text": "relates to staff as well that were never approved by Council you know there are things in the long-term budget that says", "start": 3406.92, "end": 3413.2}, {"text": "you know $10 million for this and $5 million for that but those were not part of a strategic plan or perhaps were part", "start": 3413.2, "end": 3419.039}, {"text": "of a previous strategic plan so those are going to need to be updated based on what we get as a result of this", "start": 3419.039, "end": 3425.559}, {"text": "information so I'd like to see that I'd also like to see", "start": 3425.559, "end": 3430.799}, {"text": "um we've talked about accessibility inclusivity repeatedly and uh I think", "start": 3430.799, "end": 3436.72}, {"text": "it's a priority for Council so I'd like to see how could I say this um I'd like to", "start": 3436.72, "end": 3445.48}, {"text": "see the Incorporation of visuals 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is if there's more thoughts", "start": 3485.359, "end": 3491.839}, {"text": "or comments you know it now is a great time for us to hear them as we are working towards the next steps of the plan so so thank you for those comments", "start": 3491.839, "end": 3498.68}, {"text": "councelor Chrisi thank you through chair I'm just going to touch a little bit on the accessibility further that I would", "start": 3498.68, "end": 3504.52}, {"text": "like to see that as well because I just want toensure sure that we're looking at accessibility uh through a range of", "start": 3504.52, "end": 3511.24}, {"text": "abilities and disabilities uh just for example some of the parks um in", "start": 3511.24, "end": 3516.839}, {"text": "municipalities they're putting like pictographs and stuff uh for nonverbal um you know you have your wheelchair", "start": 3516.839, "end": 3523.079}, {"text": "accessible stuff like that to have a a well-rounded accessibility so we're not missing anything I do really like 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we have you know one day uh at Christmas", "start": 4416.08, "end": 4422.6}, {"text": "time where we open it up for a public skate or something like that we need to have money coming back for the money", "start": 4422.6, "end": 4429.36}, {"text": "going out when it comes to those kinds of organized organized facilities um", "start": 4429.36, "end": 4436.12}, {"text": "I have some other concerns about Heritage and cultural integration I'll just email those and a couple of other", "start": 4436.12, "end": 4441.4}, {"text": "things I don't want to get I I've already taking up more time than I need to here but but I thank you for what", "start": 4441.4, "end": 4446.48}, {"text": "you've done so far and I'm looking forward to the final", "start": 4446.48, "end": 4451.679}, {"text": "product any other questions councelor Chris Angie thank you through chair I'm just not seeing", "start": 4453.48, "end": 4460.239}, {"text": "Whitaker Park on here unless I missed it but is okay yeah sure thank you director", "start": 4460.239, "end": 4468.679}, {"text": "Sweeney it should be on there so if it is not for some reason we'll make sure we'll follow up and get that", "start": 4468.679, "end": 4475.239}, {"text": "corrected right resolve that the delegation from think oops counselor how", "start": 4476.08, "end": 4481.8}, {"text": "I can um chair you made a comment about the stairs so I'll take the absolute", "start": 4481.8, "end": 4487.04}, {"text": "opposite what you didn't say in in that is $1,800,000 for the stairs and you", "start": 4487.04, "end": 4493.92}, {"text": "didn't say anything about about maintenance and upkeep on a yearly basis so you know if it's the stairs are worth", "start": 4493.92, "end": 4501.159}, {"text": "million eight", "start": 4501.159, "end": 4504.08}, {"text": "then uh director Sweeney thank you chair I just wanted to", "start": 4506.719, "end": 4511.76}, {"text": "address the low cost no cost just to make sure there's clear I I don't think the plan 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{"text": "the museum sessions uh report on the floor for discussion moved by councelor", "start": 4589.32, "end": 4594.84}, {"text": "how seconded by member", "start": 4594.84, "end": 4598.4}, {"text": "L resolve that report DCS 2462 Museum accessions report November 2024 dated", "start": 4601.52, "end": 4608.4}, {"text": "November 26 2024 be received for information and that the community services standing committee recommends", "start": 4608.4, "end": 4614.199}, {"text": "that Council accept the accessions as presented all in favor that is", "start": 4614.199, "end": 4621.88}, {"text": "carried can I have a mover and a seconder to get the Museum information report on the floor for dis discussion", "start": 4621.88, "end": 4628.719}, {"text": "okay move by councelor deflavio seconded by member", "start": 4628.719, "end": 4634.76}, {"text": "bront resolved that um the the report DCS 2463 Museum", "start": 4634.88, "end": 4641.679}, {"text": "information report November 2024 dated November 26 2024 be received for", "start": 4641.679, "end": 4647.44}, {"text": "information all in favor oh you got", "start": 4647.44, "end": 4654.199}, {"text": "some sorry yes I I flew through that go ahead sorry go", "start": 4654.199, "end": 4659.28}, {"text": "ahead thank you through you chair um just for this report I just like to", "start": 4659.28, "end": 4664.56}, {"text": "highlight the exhibitions that are quickly coming upon us for 2025 um the biggest one is our permanent", "start": 4664.56, "end": 4670.84}, {"text": "Gallery which is uh slated to open in hopefully February uary 2025 we've had", "start": 4670.84, "end": 4676.08}, {"text": "some delays due to Grants but um we are starting to build as of right now um so", "start": 4676.08, "end": 4681.679}, {"text": "it should open uh in the New Year this is Grimsby Museum's first ever permanent exhib exhibition um the exhibition", "start": 4681.679, "end": 4688.639}, {"text": "explores grimsby's history through a journey 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{"text": "including names you'll understand and and uh you'll recognize Bright's Distillery doc Finch uh Palmer store and", "start": 4732.96, "end": 4739.239}, {"text": "many many more so um please uh keep an eye open for that and the other exhibit we are putting out is uh lak laon um the", "start": 4739.239, "end": 4747.12}, {"text": "museum has been very very busy transcribing all the lak laon letters um for those of you who don't know lak laon", "start": 4747.12, "end": 4753.76}, {"text": "is named for the grassy stretch between the house and the lake it was built in 1846 by John Adolphus Nellis um son of", "start": 4753.76, "end": 4761.28}, {"text": "William Nellis John's brother Peter ball Nellis shared this property and built uh his home called The Stone Shanty it is", "start": 4761.28, "end": 4767.96}, {"text": "no longer there um it was uh raised when the Queen Elizabeth way was built um the", "start": 4767.96, "end": 4773.6}, {"text": "museum has over 200 letters and uh many 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some amazing ones this year if you have kids there is an entire squish M tree for those of you who knows what that is", "start": 4819.719, "end": 4825.36}, {"text": "please come out and you don't tree a squish M tree well you should ask some of your", "start": 4825.36, "end": 4832.4}, {"text": "students I'm sure they know they will know exactly what they are are there any questions uh councelor", "start": 4832.4, "end": 4840}, {"text": "how you can't hear me the attendance last year for the fantasy of trees was a", "start": 4840.84, "end": 4848.36}, {"text": "pretty good number wasn't it um through you chair I believe we had", "start": 4848.36, "end": 4853.44}, {"text": "there was it was about 2600 people came through Fantasy last year I don't have", "start": 4853.44, "end": 4859.12}, {"text": "the exact number in front of me but uh it's been growing steadily uh we had a there was a big dip when we had the when", "start": 4859.12, "end": 4866}, {"text": "when Co was on but it's been 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December 7th and all the", "start": 4915.96, "end": 4921.639}, {"text": "information can be found on the town of Grimsby website so if you're looking for more information go to Grimsby", "start": 4921.639, "end": 4927.639}, {"text": "doca um councelor chrisan thank you just to touch on that this year again there", "start": 4927.639, "end": 4932.96}, {"text": "will be an accessibility viewing uh section at the parade um details are on", "start": 4932.96, "end": 4939.32}, {"text": "the town website as well but it'll be you can park a trinity church and uh it'll just Beyond Main Street West there", "start": 4939.32, "end": 4946.159}, {"text": "so anybody who needs uh extra accessibility that is provided this year and also um our firefighters are going", "start": 4946.159, "end": 4953.159}, {"text": "to be collecting any donations so um food or any other types of donations at the parade as well so if you'd like to", "start": 4953.159, "end": 4960}, {"text": "donate that's the time to to drop them off so our next meeting is scheduled for", "start": 4960, "end": 4965.96}, {"text": "Thursday December 12th at 6:30 so thank you everyone the meeting is adjourned", "start": 4965.96, "end": 4973.44}]