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climate change initiatives and I see your online Trevor if you'd like to just introduce yourself yeah hi", "start": 728.399, "end": 735.959}, {"text": "good evening everyone S I can't be there in person but Trevor imhoff senior project manager in the office of climate change", "start": 735.959, "end": 741.519}, {"text": "initiatives great thanks staff oh and Katherine's here too yes hi", "start": 741.519, "end": 747.92}, {"text": "everyone I'm Katherine Winkleman senior project manager in the office of climate change initiatives sorry for almost", "start": 747.92, "end": 753.12}, {"text": "missing you there Catherine I'll Now read the Hamilton land acknowledgement the city of Hamilton is situated upon", "start": 753.12, "end": 759.079}, {"text": "the traditional territories of the Eerie neutral hon wend that honos and missas", "start": 759.079, "end": 764.76}, {"text": "this land is covered by the dis one spoon wamp Bel Covenant which was an agreement between the honos and anomic", 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before we approve the agenda I would like to add a change um", "start": 810.12, "end": 815.68}, {"text": "as an amendment to the current agenda and I'll be putting forward that um we amend the agenda uh so that way we", "start": 815.68, "end": 822.88}, {"text": "add a discussion item 10.1 a and I'll be putting forward the following motion", "start": 822.88, "end": 828.519}, {"text": "that the climate change advisory committee recommends that any surplus funds from Department ID", "start": 828.519, "end": 835.839}, {"text": "300309 be used to support and the adviser committee be transferred back to the climate change reserve", "start": 835.959, "end": 843.6}, {"text": "10862 and that a copy of the climate change advisory committee minutes be sent to the next general issues", "start": 843.6, "end": 848.88}, {"text": "committee meeting do I have a mover and seconder for this", "start": 848.88, "end": 855}, {"text": "motion to amend the agenda yes Lucha thank you so much uh is there any", 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"start": 971.88, "end": 977}, {"text": "to save the city of Hamilton millions of dollars while improving air quality for hundreds of thousands of hamiltonians", "start": 977, "end": 983}, {"text": "for generations to come fulfilling Hamilton's Urban Forest canopy goals while increasing biodiversity um since", "start": 983, "end": 989.12}, {"text": "this is a delegation request um if we do seek to uh have Lee join us at a future meeting I'll need of mover and seconder", "start": 989.12, "end": 996.24}, {"text": "to approve that request and this would probably be for our January meeting or a", "start": 996.24, "end": 1001.68}, {"text": "subsequent one if it doesn't work uh for Lee to join us do I have a mover or", "start": 1001.68, "end": 1007.88}, {"text": "seconder I see a mover with Lucha do I have a seconder to approve this delegation request seconded by Matthew", "start": 1009.6, "end": 1016.68}, {"text": "tuty uh any discussion or questions about this", "start": 1016.68, "end": 1022.959}, {"text": "request yep oh who wants to go first I just a", "start": 1023, "end": 1030.038}, {"text": "quick quick question um if someone were to submit a delegation request and show", "start": 1030.039, "end": 1036.6}, {"text": "up in person at the meeting could that delegation happen at the same meeting if", "start": 1036.6, "end": 1042.079}, {"text": "it was approved yeah in theory yes um however because of this request that was", "start": 1042.079, "end": 1048.28}, {"text": "sent through they're not asking to delegate on anything that's on our immediate agenda so as as co-chairs and", "start": 1048.28, "end": 1055.32}, {"text": "and with our staff L on we kind of just it made sense to just approve it for a future meeting and the delegation", "start": 1055.32, "end": 1061.12}, {"text": "requestor knows that as well so they're they're not here waiting to to delegate um uh so it would be for either our next", "start": 1061.12, "end": 1068}, {"text": "meeting or a subsequent 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front I don't see a downside if it's on the agenda and", "start": 1260.52, "end": 1265.679}, {"text": "it's a topic that's related that we would talk to a member of the public even if they've already spoken on it I know it can be kind of frustrating to uh", "start": 1265.679, "end": 1272.88}, {"text": "talk to you know Council into to talk with City staff and that maybe we would provide a little bit more Community", "start": 1272.88, "end": 1278.559}, {"text": "level interface for something like this so I don't see it as a huge detraction or", "start": 1278.559, "end": 1284.96}, {"text": "issue all righty are there I'm not seeing any other hands up both in person or online so I'll call the vote uh for", "start": 1285.159, "end": 1293.48}, {"text": "everyone in favor of approving the delegation request could you please indicate uh by raising your hands either", "start": 1293.48, "end": 1300.52}, {"text": "in person or online I'm seeing three in", "start": 1300.52, "end": 1306.32}, 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"explanation is is uh uh appreciated by everyone maybe we can just move on to a", "start": 1529.279, "end": 1535.2}, {"text": "vote just a question do do the minutes from this committee meeting not go to", "start": 1535.2, "end": 1540.72}, {"text": "General issues committee as a matter of course no they they do okay um but it we", "start": 1540.72, "end": 1547.44}, {"text": "want to make sure that this recommendation we're we're moving this recommendation to", "start": 1547.44, "end": 1553.679}, {"text": "GIC Lucha so now just trying to understand", "start": 1553.679, "end": 1558.88}, {"text": "how this differs from the direction that GIC already saw last week um I believe", "start": 1558.88, "end": 1564.48}, {"text": "that the budgets were supposed to go back to the Departments so what essentially is being proposed is that the remainder of the $9,000 for the room", "start": 1564.48, "end": 1571.919}, {"text": "rental that we haven't used on the room rental instead of just going into 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"the um Community Leon groups and the and just the review of uh volunteer advisory", "start": 1634.48, "end": 1641.88}, {"text": "committees um so beatric sent everyone an an email so that you were aware of a", "start": 1641.88, "end": 1647.84}, {"text": "report rep that went to the audit finance and admin committee um last week", "start": 1647.84, "end": 1654.039}, {"text": "uh and I just wanted to very quickly update you on the out the outcome there", "start": 1654.039, "end": 1659.12}, {"text": "um I think in a nutshell I can tell you that the the staff report and the", "start": 1659.12, "end": 1664.559}, {"text": "recommendations in it were defeated at committee there was a tie vote uh so", "start": 1664.559, "end": 1670.6}, {"text": "that will go ahead to uh Council tomorrow as part of the report from from", "start": 1670.6, "end": 1677.08}, {"text": "that committee um and um to be determined how how Council then then", "start": 1677.08, "end": 1683.12}, {"text": "deals with that 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sue do I have a seconder thank you Matt um discussion are there any", "start": 1770.72, "end": 1777.919}, {"text": "questions or discussion on this item", "start": 1777.919, "end": 1785.08}, {"text": "Luchia um so in terms you know we we'll know more tomorrow about how things", "start": 1785.08, "end": 1790.48}, {"text": "proceed at Council um part of the direction was to do this report back in", "start": 1790.48, "end": 1796.799}, {"text": "each department thing in the interim time which was like a year before report", "start": 1796.799, "end": 1802.159}, {"text": "back that is a significant amount of time this committee could still undertake quite a bit of work will the", "start": 1802.159, "end": 1807.2}, {"text": "committee be doing work over that year or will it be suspended through the chair my", "start": 1807.2, "end": 1814.24}, {"text": "understanding is this committee will continue to function this is you you're probably aware that a lot of the volunteer advisory committees 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committee will continue to fun function as it's been functioning I think probably the", "start": 1945.88, "end": 1951.48}, {"text": "difference with some of the the others that you're hearing about a very quick turnaround for is that they they don't", "start": 1951.48, "end": 1957.12}, {"text": "have an existing structure in place at all um yeah so I would say I I think I'm", "start": 1957.12, "end": 1963.72}, {"text": "I'm pretty comfortable saying to you that we're not going to face a scenario where 3 months into 2025 there's a", "start": 1963.72, "end": 1969.399}, {"text": "completely different structure in place for you um if anything our goal here is to keep an advisory committee structure", "start": 1969.399, "end": 1977.96}, {"text": "moving for this term of council when it comes to this committee so I hope that helps and then I see Jeff yeah through", "start": 1977.96, "end": 1985.279}, {"text": "you chair um I'm just wondering if staff can quickly recap the recommendation um just because I know", "start": 1985.279, "end": 1991.32}, {"text": "there's a few community members in the room and there might be folks online and I don't think I don't think there was an", "start": 1991.32, "end": 1996.919}, {"text": "attachment to the agenda on this so if like just I understand we've we've got into it but if there could just be a", "start": 1996.919, "end": 2002.84}, {"text": "quick recap of what the recommendation was that would be helpful thank you yeah through through the so there were kind", "start": 2002.84, "end": 2009.039}, {"text": "of specific recommendations for each volunteer advisory committee and to be honest in some instances there were", "start": 2009.039, "end": 2015.48}, {"text": "recommendations that some committees cease to exist but but I think for all of the the ones that the the staff are", "start": 2015.48, "end": 2023.159}, {"text": "recommending continue to exist the standard shift is to go to what they're describing as a community liaison 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hope that helps not getting into the detail specifically about what the recommendation related to this group", "start": 2072.599, "end": 2079.28}, {"text": "says but I think there's added language there that just speaks to the the Mandate of this group and obviously that", "start": 2079.28, "end": 2087.8}, {"text": "that would be preserved in any any transition into a different structure if that's where we're required to go so I I", "start": 2087.8, "end": 2094.48}, {"text": "hope that helps a little bit yeah no thank you you um yeah I I I'll just ask Gabby to", "start": 2094.48, "end": 2102.04}, {"text": "technically take the chair while I uh provide bit of my own two", "start": 2102.04, "end": 2108.2}, {"text": "cents Gabby are you there to take the chair I hope so yes uh okay great um", "start": 2108.2, "end": 2117.44}, {"text": "yeah I I as I communicated to other members of the committee um I plan to delegate on this at last week's uh audit", "start": 2117.44, "end": 2125}, {"text": "finance and administration committee which I did um I was delegating just as myself um I didn't", "start": 2125, "end": 2134.359}, {"text": "claim to speak for anyone else on this committee but I did point out that we weren't consulted and it was", "start": 2134.359, "end": 2140.92}, {"text": "acknowledged that yeah we weren't consulted because this committee was uh convened after the review process", "start": 2140.92, "end": 2147.8}, {"text": "started um I will also flag for other members who weren't able to catch uh the", "start": 2147.8, "end": 2153.52}, {"text": "committee meeting um there was uh an interesting back and forth between counselors and staff who were bringing", "start": 2153.52, "end": 2160.44}, {"text": "forward the recommendations where and this is my own personal opinion um it it definitely", "start": 2160.44, "end": 2167.079}, {"text": "seemed like there was a difference in interpretation of where this was going between some counselors and some staff", 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at least acknowledged and understood in that regard um and I know", "start": 2217.92, "end": 2223.76}, {"text": "that there's probably going to be significantly more discussion um tomorrow uh as well and I and I will", "start": 2223.76, "end": 2229.599}, {"text": "just say uh if we move in the direction of a community layone group we wouldn't be live streaming right now member of", "start": 2229.599, "end": 2235.319}, {"text": "the public wouldn't be able to tune in and see what we're talking about um which is what I also raised in the", "start": 2235.319, "end": 2242.04}, {"text": "meeting um and and and so those are just my two sents I I think um", "start": 2242.04, "end": 2248.079}, {"text": "appreciate Linda for your update on this but again um we don't know how council's going to vote tomorrow and we don't know", "start": 2248.079, "end": 2254.839}, {"text": "exactly how they're going to vote or what they'll be voting on because there could very well be a motion of some very", 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"start": 2294.8, "end": 2301.92}, {"text": "comments on that um Gabby I'll I'll retake the chair from you um and I'm not I haven't seen", "start": 2301.92, "end": 2308}, {"text": "anyone else raise their hand or anything like that oh Sue I just want to add that I found it", "start": 2308, "end": 2314.76}, {"text": "really difficult the way we found out too I just want to I just want to say that because we we have all been you", "start": 2314.76, "end": 2322.64}, {"text": "know doing a lot of work and with without knowing really what's", "start": 2322.64, "end": 2328.64}, {"text": "going to happen with I know that there's procedural ways of doing things and I I know I've expressed this too but it's", "start": 2328.64, "end": 2336}, {"text": "really hard to learn learn that something where I've only been on an advisor this is my first advisory", "start": 2336, "end": 2341.8}, {"text": "committee but I feel like I'm able to say things or support things in a way", "start": 2341.8, "end": 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at that meeting which was talking about the the fact that our committee is not", "start": 2392.44, "end": 2399.92}, {"text": "necessarily part of a one siiz fits-all solution um and that there maybe", "start": 2399.92, "end": 2405.68}, {"text": "hopefully might be space for recognition of that groups that are specifically bent to consult with equity-seeking", "start": 2405.68, "end": 2411.2}, {"text": "groups within the city that are not tied to a specific office or a specific mandate function very differently than", "start": 2411.2, "end": 2417.48}, {"text": "our group which is tied to specific staff who are very supportive of our involvement and very very clear", "start": 2417.48, "end": 2423.599}, {"text": "guidelines we exist to consult on Hamilton's climate action strategy it's not a question we know what we're doing", "start": 2423.599, "end": 2429.68}, {"text": "here and the procedural bylaw Works fairly well for that Aim so I just", "start": 2429.68, "end": 2434.8}, {"text": "wanted to flag for everyone else who maybe wasn't uh able to catch that on YouTube later um that Ian and uh", "start": 2434.8, "end": 2442.079}, {"text": "councelor Wilson spoke fairly well to that and the fact that this committee functions a little bit differently than a lot of those other", "start": 2442.079, "end": 2449.44}, {"text": "groups thank you for that do I see any other hands to speak to this", "start": 2449.68, "end": 2454.92}, {"text": "item I don't so I'll ask uh we have to uh vote to", "start": 2454.92, "end": 2461.56}, {"text": "receive the staff update uh all in favor please indicate by raising your", "start": 2461.56, "end": 2470.079}, {"text": "hand I think we're unanimous but I'll ask just in case uh any", "start": 2470.28, "end": 2477.119}, {"text": "opposed I'm seeing none opposed that carries moving on to item", "start": 2477.76, "end": 2482.8}, {"text": "10.2 working groups updates and we will start off off with nature-based", "start": 2482.8, "end": 2491.119}, {"text": "Solutions be so just so F folks know beatric is just uh setting up sharing", "start": 2496.839, "end": 2503.119}, {"text": "her screen with us so we can all have the same reference", "start": 2503.119, "end": 2509.279}, {"text": "there we", "start": 2521.64, "end": 2523.96}, {"text": "go yeah and then and then if Jesse would like to comment on this working", "start": 2527.56, "end": 2534.04}, {"text": "group if you're there Jesse thanks yep um so we've I would say gotten off to a", "start": 2534.04, "end": 2540.52}, {"text": "pretty slow start on this working group but hopefully approving this terms of reference can get us kicked into gear um", "start": 2540.52, "end": 2546.64}, {"text": "I would say kept the terms of reference pretty high level as well um I missed the second meeting or second to last", "start": 2546.64, "end": 2553.76}, {"text": "meeting that we had where I think we originally discussed at least our terms of reference someone can correct me if I'm wrong um so apologies for that I", "start": 2553.76, "end": 2561.76}, {"text": "might be playing catch up a little bit but we basically wanted to understand how can we be most effective to City", "start": 2561.76, "end": 2569.4}, {"text": "staff um and then to I guess supporting other working groups um in terms of our", "start": 2569.4, "end": 2575.559}, {"text": "mandate and what's included in the terms of ref right because the last thing we want to do is make this sort of a make", "start": 2575.559, "end": 2580.8}, {"text": "workor type of thing so you can see in the objectives and tasks and then specifically in the tasks a lot of it is", "start": 2580.8, "end": 2587.4}, {"text": "understand where there's shortcomings right now and then I suppose the terms of reference will include at a high", "start": 2587.4, "end": 2593.96}, {"text": "level what we want to focus on and then the scope of work will really dig into specifics right so um if everyone I", "start": 2593.96, "end": 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actually put together here um and apologies like I said for missing out on that second to last meeting where I", "start": 2637.88, "end": 2643.2}, {"text": "think this was discussed more thank you Jesse so we had it uh", "start": 2643.2, "end": 2649.079}, {"text": "before us in the screen share from uh beatric which was the terms of reference for the nature-based solutions terms of", "start": 2649.079, "end": 2655.559}, {"text": "reference in the scope of work so thank you so much Jesse for that and then moving on we have the community", "start": 2655.559, "end": 2661.2}, {"text": "engagement terms of reference scope of work am I correct on that beatric yes and then who was speaking to that", "start": 2661.2, "end": 2668.8}, {"text": "one oh thank you sue take it away Sue I am hoping that tran is there though and", "start": 2668.8, "end": 2674.76}, {"text": "that tran might want to speak to some of the tasks that have been assigned now", "start": 2674.76, "end": 2680.119}, {"text": "Tran are you there and available and or able to I'm", "start": 2680.119, "end": 2686.76}, {"text": "here and Sue is that in regards to some of the test that we add it on correct", "start": 2688.24, "end": 2693.319}, {"text": "yes okay", "start": 2693.319, "end": 2697}, {"text": "yeah so I believe the the main iteration or the changes that we did was based on some of the comments we had from staff", "start": 2713.2, "end": 2719.119}, {"text": "for the objectives it's just more in terms of um the the wording to try to", "start": 2719.119, "end": 2724.4}, {"text": "clarify what we meant by Community engagement vers uh Community communication plan versus an engagement", "start": 2724.4, "end": 2730.8}, {"text": "plan and um moving on from there we just added some of some several task and uh", "start": 2730.8, "end": 2736.68}, {"text": "proposed timelines but those are more up for U discussion in terms of whether do we see those as feasible or", "start": 2736.68, "end": 2744.88}, {"text": 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2907.24, "end": 2913.28}, {"text": "initiatives so we can really Reach the the voices that are unheard within our", "start": 2913.28, "end": 2919.359}, {"text": "community thank you for that and then moving on we have the", "start": 2921.28, "end": 2927.559}, {"text": "climate Justice terms of reference and scope of work as well not sure who's speaking to that one", "start": 2927.559, "end": 2937.88}, {"text": "oh sorry Gabby I missed you", "start": 2940.559, "end": 2943.76}, {"text": "there my question is my question is more just related to process and I know that", "start": 2945.76, "end": 2952.2}, {"text": "the scope of work we need to kind of like re like if the scope of work for any of the working groups changes that", "start": 2952.2, "end": 2958.4}, {"text": "we need to kind of come back to committee but do we have to do that for like changes to time frame like I would", "start": 2958.4, "end": 2964.04}, {"text": "guess that we don't need to do that for changes to time frame and 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{"text": "um those all have staff identified staff leads and so that helps kind of identify", "start": 3297.72, "end": 3303.319}, {"text": "oh who am I talking to what am I trying to do but I also just wanted to pass on that I believe at public works on Monday", "start": 3303.319, "end": 3310.24}, {"text": "there'll be a report on the garden program and how we're carrying forward", "start": 3310.24, "end": 3316.119}, {"text": "with especially more gardens for biodiversity often times a lot of nature-based", "start": 3316.119, "end": 3322.119}, {"text": "solutions get brought out as a pilot project um that pilot project at least", "start": 3322.119, "end": 3328.359}, {"text": "in the naturalist club's experience is kind of a a garden for biodiversity um and so just to say I", "start": 3328.359, "end": 3334.359}, {"text": "have no idea like won't know this report until like unlike anyone else it'll be published on that Wednesday and we'll all get to see it tomorrow but just to", "start": 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I'm seeing no their hands and so uh can I have a mover and seconder to", "start": 3482.24, "end": 3488.64}, {"text": "approve these new um terms of references and scopes of work before we move", "start": 3488.64, "end": 3494.72}, {"text": "on oh I see TR and shell is that a mover and", "start": 3494.72, "end": 3499.92}, {"text": "seconder okay yeah I'll go with TR as the Mover shell as the seconder all in", "start": 3499.92, "end": 3505.319}, {"text": "favor please indicate by raising your hand seeing raised hands in", "start": 3505.319, "end": 3512.039}, {"text": "person all opposed I'm seeing none opposed to that", "start": 3512.039, "end": 3518.96}, {"text": "carries and then moving on uh we have updates from the remaining uh groups uh", "start": 3518.96, "end": 3525.559}, {"text": "is there a climate Justice update beyond what we already", "start": 3525.559, "end": 3533.4}, {"text": "received the the only thing I mentioned on have gotten lost in there was just we're still working on the submission", "start": 3533.4, "end": 3540.039}, {"text": "the C the GIC submission for the climate reserve and that's that's all we're", "start": 3540.039, "end": 3545.24}, {"text": "doing right now yep thank you Chile and then uh does community engagement have any further", "start": 3545.24, "end": 3552.359}, {"text": "updates no that's it okay great thank you sue uh buildings working group do we", "start": 3553.079, "end": 3558.839}, {"text": "have an update from the buildings", "start": 3558.839, "end": 3562.2}, {"text": "group hi um it's not a major one we're just like delving into the Green Building standards I'm actually going to", "start": 3564.839, "end": 3571.4}, {"text": "let Luchia speak to that more because she's the one spearheading it uh but that's been the main focus for us over", "start": 3571.4, "end": 3577.44}, {"text": "the past couple weeks Luchi do want to jump in oh okay", "start": 3577.44, "end": 3583.119}, {"text": "great okay thank you and then uh next up is the technical and governance working group if there's any updates from you", "start": 3583.119, "end": 3589.48}, {"text": "guys yeah I can speak to this quickly um so we've met a few times and thanks everybody who's participated in this", "start": 3589.48, "end": 3594.96}, {"text": "working group um so we've heard from other working groups that the they might", "start": 3594.96, "end": 3600.44}, {"text": "want a bit more structure around how to operate with voting decision- making things like that so we felt it was in", "start": 3600.44, "end": 3607.16}, {"text": "our uh jurisdiction to come up with a very simple document to kind of help the working groups operate uh not meant to", "start": 3607.16, "end": 3615.039}, {"text": "replace any existing documents something just to support these working groups and their functioning so we are drafting", "start": 3615.039, "end": 3622.68}, {"text": "that and hoping to vote on it next week and then we can send it to the full committee for your own um use and", "start": 3622.68, "end": 3630.64}, {"text": "hopefully this is a useful document for all the working groups and of course you can tailor it as needed um we're also", "start": 3630.64, "end": 3637.839}, {"text": "working on helping uh with the targets so this has been brought up for a few committees now um Trevor talked a lot", "start": 3637.839, "end": 3645.24}, {"text": "about metrics and targets and dashboards so we are starting that work as well and", "start": 3645.24, "end": 3651.799}, {"text": "we'll uh eventually solicit feedback from the entire committee um and then Lucha is going to talk about the Green", "start": 3651.799, "end": 3657.799}, {"text": "Building standards later in the meeting today thank you thank you Matt uh do I", "start": 3657.799, "end": 3665}, {"text": "I'm not seeing any further discussion on these from these updates do I have a move and seconder to receive these", "start": 3665, "end": 3671.359}, {"text": "updates move by Matthew second by Luchia all in", "start": 3671.359, "end": 3676.4}, {"text": "favor any opposed I'm seeing none it's carried", "start": 3678.119, "end": 3685.2}, {"text": "moving on on item 10.3 office of climate change initiatives updates item 10.3 a", "start": 3685.2, "end": 3691.839}, {"text": "climate change Reserve updates am I receiving that from you Linda please", "start": 3691.839, "end": 3696.92}, {"text": "take it away thanks Ian so I just wanted to give everybody a quick update on the", "start": 3696.92, "end": 3702.76}, {"text": "climate change Reserve both the staff report and then plans moving forward so that you're all aware of what's", "start": 3702.76, "end": 3708.24}, {"text": "happening so you're all probably aware we did get bumped from the November 20th General issues committee meeting and", "start": 3708.24, "end": 3715.119}, {"text": "that report is now scheduled um to move forward on the Wednesday December 4th", "start": 3715.119, "end": 3721.24}, {"text": "General issues uh committee agenda and that report will be publicly accessible", "start": 3721.24, "end": 3726.92}, {"text": "tomorrow should it should be up usually they're up by the afternoon um on the", "start": 3726.92, "end": 3732.16}, {"text": "Wednesday before the meeting happens so you can you can access there um moving", "start": 3732.16, "end": 3737.72}, {"text": "forward I just wanted to update everyone on what's been happening internally in preparation for the", "start": 3737.72, "end": 3744.079}, {"text": "2025 round of um and this is focusing in on on city-led initiatives that um might", "start": 3744.079, "end": 3751.64}, {"text": "end up being supported in the future through the climate change Reserve so we've initiated a process starting with", "start": 3751.64, "end": 3758.079}, {"text": "our our internal director level climate change initiative steering committee so they're aware and and actually there", "start": 3758.079, "end": 3764.359}, {"text": "were a group of us around that table already sort of cognizant of the fact that we needed to become more strategic", "start": 3764.359, "end": 3770.24}, {"text": "and how we're allocating this funding so there's a process that's starting internally to revie view the application", "start": 3770.24, "end": 3777.24}, {"text": "package to help to um put in place you know just some more strategic parameters", "start": 3777.24, "end": 3782.88}, {"text": "around projects that would even be considered for support through the climate change Reserve so one thing that", "start": 3782.88, "end": 3789.359}, {"text": "I wanted to um I wanted to share that with you tonight but also maybe get um", "start": 3789.359, "end": 3794.72}, {"text": "input in you know any any opinions from climate change advisory committee members on how we might engage either", "start": 3794.72, "end": 3803.359}, {"text": "you as a whole committee or as participants in relevant working groups", "start": 3803.359, "end": 3809.119}, {"text": "in 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{"text": "city uh but Community initiated or uh maybe partnered with Community groups", "start": 3935.24, "end": 3940.559}, {"text": "but uh one of the things we did do at our last meeting was that we reviewed uh the original terms of the climate change", "start": 3940.559, "end": 3947.039}, {"text": "Reserve again as a group and we were particularly troubled by the fact that the submissions from this year uh fall", "start": 3947.039, "end": 3954.64}, {"text": "into categories that the original intent of the reserve seemed not to be geared toward the original intent of the", "start": 3954.64, "end": 3961.079}, {"text": "reserve did seem very clearly to talk about projects that couldn't get funding from other departments projects which", "start": 3961.079, "end": 3966.68}, {"text": "would not be eligible for other levels of funding so for example excluding things until they've tried applying to", "start": 3966.68, "end": 3972.319}, {"text": "things like the green Municipal fund first 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{"text": "update on on that piece um I I hear what you're saying just in terms of challenges with Al alignment and and", "start": 4061.4, "end": 4069.48}, {"text": "kind of concurrently developing pieces like the climate Justice framework to help to guide work and and we know that", "start": 4069.48, "end": 4074.839}, {"text": "piece isn't there yet I think fair to say we'll be well on the way in coming", "start": 4074.839, "end": 4080.52}, {"text": "to a completed product closer to the end of 2025 so I'm I'm going to say right up", "start": 4080.52, "end": 4086.4}, {"text": "front we won't have that framework in place at the front end of 2025 to guide", "start": 4086.4, "end": 4092.88}, {"text": "assessment of of some of these projects but I but I don't think that means we can't still have a good conversation", "start": 4092.88, "end": 4099.238}, {"text": "about you know what we collectively think fits and doesn't doesn't fit I think I think that's still something", "start": 4099.239, 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think fair to say I've got the whole staff team here tonight I I I feel as", "start": 4185.159, "end": 4191.52}, {"text": "though we'd be comfortable and ready in January to come back and you know provide all of you with a grand tour of", "start": 4191.52, "end": 4198.44}, {"text": "our 2025 work plan yeah I'm not seeing any other uh hands", "start": 4198.44, "end": 4204.92}, {"text": "up Jeff sir just quickly so um I think I remember this correctly from the last", "start": 4204.92, "end": 4210.88}, {"text": "meeting so basically what we'd expect to see in the report um that's being made", "start": 4210.88, "end": 4216.52}, {"text": "public tomorrow going to council is the recommendations that were brought to committee and we were talking about", "start": 4216.52, "end": 4222.52}, {"text": "hopefully next year there'd be time to like um engage in an earlier phase when", "start": 4222.52, "end": 4227.88}, {"text": "things could could actually be changing so in that case the only way that Council would then decide to", "start": 4227.88, "end": 4235.44}, {"text": "approve reject or sort of amend the allocations as as present as presented is that correct yeah that's correct for", "start": 4235.44, "end": 4242.679}, {"text": "this year's round that's that's we may see changes as a result of that Council dialogue", "start": 4242.679, "end": 4248.679}, {"text": "yeah great thank you I'm not seeing another hands up um I I would like to ask um I think we've lost Gabby", "start": 4248.679, "end": 4256.04}, {"text": "temporarily so Lucha could I hand you the chair temporarily thank you so much", "start": 4256.04, "end": 4261.12}, {"text": "um trigger I handed you the chair because uh you triggered in my brain um", "start": 4261.12, "end": 4266.159}, {"text": "I I would like to just flag I I like the idea of um Community", "start": 4266.159, "end": 4273}, {"text": "directed action that isn't necessarily undertaken by Community primarily and", "start": 4273, "end": 4279.4}, 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because I I know that that would probably make uh things very complicated so I'll I'll", "start": 4318.639, "end": 4324.88}, {"text": "leave my comments there I'll take the chair back from you Luchia thank you so much and I'm not seeing any other", "start": 4324.88, "end": 4330.239}, {"text": "questions or comments on this so we can move on to item", "start": 4330.239, "end": 4336.32}, {"text": "10.4 oh yes sorry just just quickly maybe if anyone has any comments just in", "start": 4336.52, "end": 4342.44}, {"text": "terms of looking forward to 2025 and that revamping of the application for City Le initiatives does anyone have any", "start": 4342.44, "end": 4349.4}, {"text": "strong feelings about how would you be comfortable with us starting to share information with relevant working groups", "start": 4349.4, "end": 4356.08}, {"text": "how how would you like us to proceed on that I mean we could do that we could start doing that now like sooner than later if people are comfortable 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this would be aligned with your work plan speak up let us know and", "start": 4401.04, "end": 4407.639}, {"text": "we'll we'll we'll have a discussion I think that would be an awesome way to move forward thank you for that that's", "start": 4407.639, "end": 4413.6}, {"text": "helpful thanks I'm not seeing any other hands raised but I think it's safe to say generally", "start": 4413.6, "end": 4419.84}, {"text": "speaking most people in the committee are happy if you are bringing information forward to the working groups and I don't think anyone would be", "start": 4419.84, "end": 4425.8}, {"text": "opposed to that so moving on uh item 10.4 oh sorry I'm so sorry Sue sorry it", "start": 4425.8, "end": 4431.92}, {"text": "was just a quick comment to say absolutely the sooner the better send it along okay great now moving on to item", "start": 4431.92, "end": 4439.52}, {"text": "10.4 uh Green Building standards I can provide an update on", "start": 4439.52, "end": 4445.52}, {"text": "that 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update", "start": 4482.639, "end": 4489.199}, {"text": "at the December meeting assuming that it falls after that December 10th but uh quick reminder I guess to everyone who's", "start": 4489.199, "end": 4495.28}, {"text": "here who is part of either of those working groups the next Technical and governance working group is going to be", "start": 4495.28, "end": 4501.04}, {"text": "on December uh 4th 5th or 6th there's a doodle pullup for joining that and", "start": 4501.04, "end": 4506.32}, {"text": "that's where we are going to finalize that our group is happy with the recommendations that are are coming forward buildings uh will probably have", "start": 4506.32, "end": 4513.199}, {"text": "their own process but we really need to get everybody's comments in prior to that meeting on the", "start": 4513.199, "end": 4519.04}, {"text": "10th thank you Lucha do I have a mover and seconder to receive this update and", "start": 4519.04, "end": 4524.48}, {"text": "it shouldn't be from you Lucha do have another do have a mover move by Sue second by Matthew do we have any", "start": 4524.48, "end": 4531.04}, {"text": "discussion or questions on this and I'm seeing Oh no TR rate you lowered your hand uh is there any question or", "start": 4531.04, "end": 4539}, {"text": "discussion on this update I'm not seeing any so I'll uh", "start": 4539, "end": 4546.8}, {"text": "call a vote to receive uh all in favor just indicate by raising your", "start": 4546.8, "end": 4552.48}, {"text": "hand anyone opposed please raise your hand and keep it raised I'm not seeing", "start": 4552.48, "end": 4557.639}, {"text": "any opposed so that carries thank you so much moving", "start": 4557.639, "end": 4562.679}, {"text": "on item 10.5 the urban boundary expansion framework update and then the", "start": 4562.679, "end": 4570}, {"text": "climate change advisor committee comments uh who is taking us away with", "start": 4570, "end": 4575.4}, {"text": "this", "start": 4575.4, "end": 4577.6}, {"text": "one this is just a I believe the discussion unless staff have anything they want to start us off with no other", "start": 4582.719, "end": 4589.44}, {"text": "than to say I guess we that was just added as a reminder to all of you that there's that opportunity to comment and", "start": 4589.44, "end": 4595.88}, {"text": "I I know a series of in fact there's one happening as we all sit here till 9:00", "start": 4595.88, "end": 4600.96}, {"text": "at the convention center so opportunities to engage in that process yeah I'm seeing luia I have some", "start": 4600.96, "end": 4607.32}, {"text": "information here oh wait yeah before we go sorry think yeah no I actually attended um I popped in this afternoon", "start": 4607.32, "end": 4613.679}, {"text": "so you know if anyone wants to look at some of the materials that are in this room here you're welcome but as Linda", "start": 4613.679, "end": 4619}, {"text": "said it's open to 9 so you still have time to zip across and and look at the um the boards very good boards and and", "start": 4619, "end": 4626.12}, {"text": "the staff there to answer questions so it's well worth if you have a bit stopping by Luchia I'll comment that I", "start": 4626.12, "end": 4634.28}, {"text": "did stop by before I came here and I was unfortunately not very impressed by the fact that the online uh commenting in", "start": 4634.28, "end": 4641.8}, {"text": "the report and the boards that are presented are not one to one so just for public consumption if people were", "start": 4641.8, "end": 4648.639}, {"text": "looking at the PDF they would see a detailed breakdown from Dylan Consulting", "start": 4648.639, "end": 4654.32}, {"text": "uh Parts a b have tabular information that outlines detailed criteria which is", "start": 4654.32, "end": 4660.6}, {"text": "not reflected by the display boards there in person there's like some summary text but it's it's one board and", "start": 4660.6, "end": 4666.56}, {"text": "it's pretty small and the comments as a results are very very high level they don't actually talk about a lot of the", "start": 4666.56, "end": 4672.48}, {"text": "details that's presented in that report and some some of them are really important on the flip side there's", "start": 4672.48, "end": 4677.92}, {"text": "additional information about notification that is not present in the report pdf online there's things where", "start": 4677.92, "end": 4684.84}, {"text": "they're getting people to vote on for example an option to do a Citywide survey every time that there's a an", "start": 4684.84, "end": 4690.56}, {"text": "urban boundary application and I asked the planning staff who came and gave us an update last time I didn't see that in", "start": 4690.56, "end": 4697.32}, {"text": "the report that would be prohibitively expensive that wouldn't be a very feasible option and he said yeah no that", "start": 4697.32, "end": 4702.92}, {"text": "wouldn't be a very feasible option why is it there on the poster board for people to come and vote on so I was a", "start": 4702.92, "end": 4709.04}, {"text": "little bit disappointed that um given the low turnout like this is our third", "start": 4709.04, "end": 4714.76}, {"text": "time around trying to keep a firm Urban boundary in Hamilton steam is running out and the the the provincial framework", "start": 4714.76, "end": 4721.92}, {"text": "is really really opaque and also it uh it it's hard with Bill 185 with all", "start": 4721.92, "end": 4728.159}, {"text": "these individual pieces so I recognize that there's going to be probably limited public engagement as opposed to", "start": 4728.159, "end": 4734.8}, {"text": "previous sessions um but certainly for the people that are taking the time to come out in person uh and the people", "start": 4734.8, "end": 4740.8}, {"text": "that are taking their time to do things online I was um you know just wondering what how did that happen and why are", "start": 4740.8, "end": 4748.4}, {"text": "these things not one to one so I just wanted to flag that publicly especially uh if we have any people who are keeners", "start": 4748.4, "end": 4754.719}, {"text": "and watch the climate change advisory they might be the kind of people that are motivated to go to these sessions", "start": 4754.719, "end": 4759.84}, {"text": "and to make their online comments please be advised uh I would recommend doing both", "start": 4759.84, "end": 4766.56}, {"text": "thank you Luchia any other people wish to flag this for", "start": 4766.56, "end": 4772.84}, {"text": "discussion um I'm seeing Gabby is back on uh Gabby can I hand you the chair real quick or oh I'm sorry before I do", "start": 4772.84, "end": 4779.52}, {"text": "that I see Trevor Has raised his hand yeah thanks uh Mr chair can you", "start": 4779.52, "end": 4785.28}, {"text": "hear me okay yep okay great sounds weird in my headset for some reason um you sound fine okay just to be specific is", "start": 4785.28, "end": 4794.12}, {"text": "there are the deadline comments are December 6th and why don't um I just", "start": 4794.12, "end": 4799.159}, {"text": "I'll I'll kindly ask beatric to to send just a followup email to the advisory", "start": 4799.159, "end": 4806.76}, {"text": "committee um with the uh link to the engage page um and that has the emails", "start": 4806.76, "end": 4814.159}, {"text": "that anyone can send direct comments to thank you Trevor and then I'll Gabby", "start": 4814.159, "end": 4821.32}, {"text": "I'll just hand you over the chair briefly so I can just provide a comment", "start": 4821.32, "end": 4828.08}, {"text": "um uh we are the the city of Hamilton's climate change advisory committee this", "start": 4828.08, "end": 4834.36}, {"text": "is unfortunately well out of the scope of where our influence can have any", "start": 4834.36, "end": 4840.8}, {"text": "effect including the city of Hamilton's influence as well um but I think that", "start": 4840.8, "end": 4847}, {"text": "just on the record I think it's worth putting down that this is a good example that for all of us as committee members we need to be aware of the fact that", "start": 4847, "end": 4854.88}, {"text": "there are political forces in the country that are well above every you", "start": 4854.88, "end": 4860.4}, {"text": "know everyone's level of influence right here that um will certainly in in even", "start": 4860.4, "end": 4866.719}, {"text": "if everything goes ideally for us on this committee um upend and completely negate potentially what we may have to", "start": 4866.719, "end": 4872.44}, {"text": "do so um I think it's just worthwhile for us to keep that in mind and especially for the community engagement", "start": 4872.44, "end": 4879.08}, {"text": "uh committee and and when we continue to move forward that as members of this committee we", "start": 4879.08, "end": 4885.6}, {"text": "are mindful when we engage with the public as individuals and as members of this committee that we remind the public", "start": 4885.6, "end": 4891.8}, {"text": "of this that there are decisions being made by other levels of government", "start": 4891.8, "end": 4898.4}, {"text": "that completely can upend everything that it happens at this committee and um", "start": 4898.4, "end": 4903.719}, {"text": "it it's it's detrimental and it's horrible um but at the same time I think", "start": 4903.719, "end": 4909.32}, {"text": "uh while we may not have room within the power within this room we certainly can potentially", "start": 4909.32, "end": 4915.199}, {"text": "uh collaborate together outside of it uh is where I'll leave those comments and I'll take back the chair from you Gabby", "start": 4915.199, "end": 4921}, {"text": "thank you and I see marel oh okay I was mistaken sorry and", "start": 4921, "end": 4927.52}, {"text": "then Lucha you have uh one final comment uh I do which is that um the the urban", "start": 4927.52, "end": 4934.08}, {"text": "boundary uh issue is one of the reasons that again just reminding folks that we are bringing forward some ambitious low", "start": 4934.08, "end": 4941.36}, {"text": "density uh targets and Green Building standards is that uh we are expecting", "start": 4941.36, "end": 4946.44}, {"text": "unfortunately low density sprawl um uh at least some of the applications to to", "start": 4946.44, "end": 4951.6}, {"text": "go through and that's part of the reason why it's important that our group make sure that we contribute as fully as", "start": 4951.6, "end": 4958.239}, {"text": "possible to making sure that those do not lock in uh future future", "start": 4958.239, "end": 4964.48}, {"text": "emissions thank you for that um moving on we have item 11 we have no motions", "start": 4964.48, "end": 4974.92}, {"text": "was it was no presentation though so do we still move if there's just a discussion on a", "start": 4975.44, "end": 4983.12}, {"text": "topic do I have a move in second or just to be real safe Matthew Sue all in favor", "start": 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would like to get us started on this discussion well", "start": 5043.88, "end": 5049.48}, {"text": "yes sure um I find Tuesdays seem to work for people nicely for most of the so do", "start": 5049.48, "end": 5056}, {"text": "we want to continue meeting on Tuesdays and then would it make sense for me to propose some dates and people could put", "start": 5056, "end": 5063.36}, {"text": "them in their calendars decide you know and be prepared that way is that something that you know that we want to", "start": 5063.36, "end": 5069.719}, {"text": "do so the next meeting would be okay so are we meeting in", "start": 5069.719, "end": 5075.639}, {"text": "December number one I think probably not some people are notd in I don't know like we don't have a December date well", "start": 5075.639, "end": 5082.8}, {"text": "I think I I'll speaking to the mic I think it slightly depends on what happens tomorrow right there if there's", "start": 5082.8, "end": 5089.04}, {"text": "something that we don't anticipate um certainly my thought would be that maybe", "start": 5089.04, "end": 5094.96}, {"text": "we leave some options open because it may trigger a discussion it might be a short meeting but it may trigger a", "start": 5094.96, "end": 5100.679}, {"text": "discussion um for our group to uh get more updates and see what's going on", "start": 5100.679, "end": 5106.639}, {"text": "okay okay so we can keep December you know optional and then for", "start": 5106.639, "end": 5113.48}, {"text": "2025 so we've met six times this year which is bra everybody because we", "start": 5113.48, "end": 5118.52}, {"text": "started given that we started in April that's pretty good right um again terms", "start": 5118.52, "end": 5123.8}, {"text": "of reference for us is that we need to meet at least four times a year and we can meet as many times beyond that it's", "start": 5123.8, "end": 5130.6}, {"text": "up to us um so if for January would people feel", "start": 5130.6, "end": 5136.679}, 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5229}, {"text": "tomorrow then just just an like the room bookings all those types of availabilities all", "start": 5229, "end": 5234.92}, {"text": "the things related to the city's functionings which doesn't impact most volunteer members but may impact some of", "start": 5234.92, "end": 5240.4}, {"text": "Beatrice's bookings um that hopefully is a", "start": 5240.4, "end": 5246.118}, {"text": "tomorrow so it sounds like what we'll be doing is Staff will collaborate with the chairs we'll just confirm everyone's", "start": 5246.28, "end": 5252.32}, {"text": "availability for the next year we'll confirm December meeting by email um and", "start": 5252.32, "end": 5258.639}, {"text": "then moving forward we'll look at later January when we meet in January because I think safe to say we're going to be", "start": 5258.639, "end": 5265.28}, {"text": "meeting in January no matter what um and then beyond that we can have a discussion of dates once folks have", "start": 5265.28, "end": 5271.92}, {"text": "either confirmed Tuesday still work or or don't all right thank you everyone uh", "start": 5271.92, "end": 5278.6}, {"text": "can I have a mover and can I have a vote to receive this", "start": 5278.6, "end": 5284.56}, {"text": "discussion all in favor because we did a move in second already all right any opposed none", "start": 5284.56, "end": 5292.199}, {"text": "opposed do I have a moover in second or to", "start": 5292.199, "end": 5296.52}, {"text": "adjourn before you do that um I wasn't qualified to vote on the delegation", "start": 5297.239, "end": 5303.76}, {"text": "question at the beginning of the agenda so my opposing vote should be struck all", "start": 5303.76, "end": 5310.4}, {"text": "right thank you for that if it was counted I assume no no thank you for", "start": 5310.4, "end": 5316.159}, {"text": "that uh do I have a mover in second or to adjourn seeing Sue I'll give it to Tran", "start": 5316.159, "end": 5323.88}, {"text": "so that way we have some balance 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