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Alejandra Bravo and I'm the", "start": 588.24, "end": 594.04}, {"text": "chair of the economic and Community Development Committee uh we have Quorum I'm now calling meeting 17 order welcome", "start": 594.04, "end": 601.399}, {"text": "everyone today's meeting is being held by video conference and in person at City Hall in committee room one this", "start": 601.399, "end": 607.399}, {"text": "meeting is also being live streamed online at youtube.com back Toronto Council", "start": 607.399, "end": 613.48}, {"text": "live we're all here so before we start I think it's a good moment to take a deep breath um and in the face of all of the", "start": 613.48, "end": 621.519}, {"text": "items we have on the agenda today first acknowledge the land we're on uh this committee uh wants to acknowledge uh", "start": 621.519, "end": 628.839}, {"text": "that we on the land and where many traditional ter territory of many", "start": 628.839, "end": 634.64}, {"text": "nations including the Miss sagas of the credit and isnab chipa nooni and wend", "start": 634.64, "end": 641.76}, {"text": "peoples now home to many diverse First Nations in M peoples and that Toronto is", "start": 641.76, "end": 647.839}, {"text": "covered by treaty 13 with the Miss sagas of the credit we also want to acknowledge that Toronto um is made up", "start": 647.839, "end": 656.44}, {"text": "of um treaty peoples which we are all including those that came here as", "start": 656.44, "end": 661.56}, {"text": "settlers as migrants either in this generation or generation's past and those of us who came here involuntarily", "start": 661.56, "end": 667.839}, {"text": "particularly those brought to these lands as a result of the transatlantic slave trade and slavery we pay tribute", "start": 667.839, "end": 674.32}, {"text": "to those ancestors of African origin and descent um if you are registered uh to", "start": 674.32, "end": 679.72}, {"text": "speak at today's meeting please listen for me to call your name I will call speakers in the order they appear on the", "start": 679.72, "end": 684.8}, {"text": "list the list of speakers can be viewed online by visiting the economic and Community Development committee page at", "start": 684.8, "end": 690.56}, {"text": "toronto.ca counil and clicking the speakers box for today's meeting members", "start": 690.56, "end": 696.079}, {"text": "the city clerk has provided all agenda materials on toronto.ca Council and on CMP the clerk's meeting portal Clerk's", "start": 696.079, "end": 702.8}, {"text": "IT staff are available if member members if you need help with your devices I also want to remind you to please submit", "start": 702.8, "end": 708.76}, {"text": "and approve your motions by email staff are available at ecdc toronto.ca to help with motions are there any Declarations", "start": 708.76, "end": 715.92}, {"text": "of interest I'm seeing none uh may I have a motion to confirm the minutes from our meeting on October 23rd 2024 uh", "start": 715.92, "end": 723.56}, {"text": "councelor Moy um all in favor opposed that's", "start": 723.56, "end": 728.639}, {"text": "carried so we're now going to go to the agenda review but before uh we doing that um as", "start": 728.639, "end": 737.04}, {"text": "you can see today we have a reduced membership on the committee three members and we need to U make sure that", "start": 737.04, "end": 744.24}, {"text": "we maintain Quorum so that we can complete the agenda as such I'm going to be moving uh that we have we limit", "start": 744.24, "end": 751.56}, {"text": "public uh speakers public presentations to 3 minutes and that we close the", "start": 751.56, "end": 757.16}, {"text": "speakers um agenda um addition capacity at 10:00 a.m. so we're going to close the", "start": 757.16, "end": 763.32}, {"text": "speakers list at 10:00 a.m. all those in favor oppos that's carried thank you", "start": 763.32, "end": 770.24}, {"text": "chair I'll be in my office for some some of this meeting on WebEx thank you thank you councelor Fletcher for doing double", "start": 770.24, "end": 777.199}, {"text": "duty to make sure that we can complete the agenda uh we're going to start with um", "start": 777.199, "end": 783.16}, {"text": "uh the Ombudsman Toronto housing unit status report um and we're holding for", "start": 783.16, "end": 788.56}, {"text": "speakers and questions for that um EC 17.2 uh a partnered approach", "start": 788.56, "end": 795.8}, {"text": "to inclusive Economic Development we're holding for presentation and", "start": 795.8, "end": 801.399}, {"text": "speakers EC 17.3 addressing reconciliation and Equity via uh", "start": 801.399, "end": 806.68}, {"text": "Community funding we're holding for speakers EC 17.4 shelter Safety Action Plan and", "start": 806.68, "end": 812.6}, {"text": "contract amendments related to lodging for Asylum Seekers and refugees and Community safety team Services we're", "start": 812.6, "end": 818.279}, {"text": "holding for a presentation and 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{"text": "issues mental health issues physical issues etc etc", "start": 1087.559, "end": 1093.12}, {"text": "etc so um I wanted to um um uh address the the report which was", "start": 1093.12, "end": 1103.44}, {"text": "approved at the tcac board at the last board meeting it kind of went too", "start": 1103.44, "end": 1109.44}, {"text": "um there was not much discussion about the the all the moving parts for instance the transfer priority uh", "start": 1109.44, "end": 1117.2}, {"text": "process um I think that is being consulted with tcsc tenants and", "start": 1117.2, "end": 1123.48}, {"text": "stakeholders that has not been done yet completely there are also", "start": 1123.48, "end": 1129.039}, {"text": "recommendations out of the 14 recommendations to of the city utsman only six have been implemented there so", "start": 1129.039, "end": 1136.24}, {"text": "it's a working process and the other one is the the human rights um um internal", "start": 1136.24, "end": 1142}, {"text": 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1241.28}, {"text": "opportunity please put this on the screen this is my mom she she passed away two days ago we have ask Chris Mo", "start": 1241.28, "end": 1248.039}, {"text": "can you please put her name on the meeting please yeah please two days", "start": 1248.039, "end": 1253.88}, {"text": "thank you thank you thank you yeah", "start": 1253.88, "end": 1258.32}, {"text": "so on there on the item are there any uh questions I believe the otsman is", "start": 1261.679, "end": 1269.24}, {"text": "here do we have questions the utsman is here", "start": 1270.4, "end": 1277.039}, {"text": "oh no okay any speakers uh sorry we're", "start": 1277.039, "end": 1283.72}, {"text": "going to hold this down for speakers because we're um we're still working on this we may have we may have questions", "start": 1283.72, "end": 1292.48}, {"text": "um so we're just going to hold this down right now if that's okay you have a question no okay uh we're going to hold", "start": 1292.48, "end": 1299.44}, 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involving care work the", "start": 2456.8, "end": 2463.56}, {"text": "city divisions that are responsible for care works such as child care and some of these conversations um and then the", "start": 2463.56, "end": 2469.599}, {"text": "decent work questions around for example the um growth in Gig work um Can these", "start": 2469.599, "end": 2476.839}, {"text": "be some of the items that the working table lifts up in your view in relation", "start": 2476.839, "end": 2482.56}, {"text": "to building up the framework and Reporting back uh through you chair counsel Bravo", "start": 2482.56, "end": 2488.92}, {"text": "uh yes they can as my colleague the executive director Social Development Finance Administration said uh this work", "start": 2488.92, "end": 2495.48}, {"text": "will continue with Community um and in addition to Rosemary Powell's deputation", "start": 2495.48, "end": 2500.72}, {"text": "there's correspondence received by committee that does provide a list uh that many of the 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questions of the deput no thank you for uh coming to committee um", "start": 3061.76, "end": 3067.44}, {"text": "is uh don Sutherland", "start": 3067.44, "end": 3071.76}, {"text": "here I think what we'll do is take um a short recess to allow or can", "start": 3073.559, "end": 3082.16}, {"text": "we going to hold this for now until uh don is here and we'll move on to um the", "start": 3082.96, "end": 3089.16}, {"text": "next item if that's okay with the committee members the next item is EC", "start": 3089.16, "end": 3095.76}, {"text": "17.4 uh shelter Safety Action Plan and contrast amendments related to lodging for Asylum Seekers and refugees and", "start": 3095.76, "end": 3102.4}, {"text": "Community safety uh Team services and we have a", "start": 3102.4, "end": 3107.759}, {"text": "presentation welcome to uh gor Tanner um General Manager of Toronto", "start": 3114.119, "end": 3120.559}, {"text": "uh shelter services and supports Division and", "start": 3120.559, "end": 3126.52}, 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sector on the use and consistency of service restrictions to strengthen the", "start": 3448.96, "end": 3456.16}, {"text": "process for people to access information if they do have service restrictions and monitor the new behavioral risk alert", "start": 3456.16, "end": 3462.88}, {"text": "system which increases information sharing about safety issues across the shelter sector initiatives currently", "start": 3462.88, "end": 3469.799}, {"text": "underway include implementing the homelessness Services Capital infrastructure strategy to make new", "start": 3469.799, "end": 3476.4}, {"text": "physical shelter infrastructure accessible safer and better aligned to meet the needs of our staff and diverse", "start": 3476.4, "end": 3483.16}, {"text": "clients furthering the development of community safety teams or the deployment of those teams to support larger shelter", "start": 3483.16, "end": 3490.24}, {"text": "locations and encampments so I'll end it there and I look forward to any 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"potential to improve the conditions of the city shelter system for both residents and the staff who support", "start": 3543.079, "end": 3548.839}, {"text": "these critical Services while the current plan is more of a highlevel overview of the changes", "start": 3548.839, "end": 3554.64}, {"text": "we can expect in the coming months we're pleased to see some of its broad areas of action these include better", "start": 3554.64, "end": 3561.319}, {"text": "supporting staff creating safe and accessible spaces for people who use substance", "start": 3561.319, "end": 3567.079}, {"text": "exploring how to link and support people to housing and other supports and", "start": 3567.079, "end": 3572.68}, {"text": "importantly reviewing and improving the use of service restrictions and shelters", "start": 3572.68, "end": 3577.92}, {"text": "these actions can help to address some of the Discrimination that people may face and hopefully will prevent the", "start": 3577.92, "end": 3583.16}, {"text": "forced eviction of people who often need the deepest levels of support we're also", "start": 3583.16, "end": 3588.48}, {"text": "pleased to see that the city engaged with people with lived experience of the system in the plan's development however the camage shelter", "start": 3588.48, "end": 3595.68}, {"text": "safety study that was used to inform this plan also pointed to challenges with several City policies that so far aren't", "start": 3595.68, "end": 3602.76}, {"text": "addressed these are policies that limit autonomy and privacy for residents such as those that limit access to Secure", "start": 3602.76, "end": 3609.64}, {"text": "Storage for belongings the city should take care to ensure that the important information collected from the camage", "start": 3609.64, "end": 3616.319}, {"text": "study on City policies and through other engagements about how people are experiencing the system are reviewed and", "start": 3616.319, "end": 3622.48}, {"text": "further iterations of the plan but taking a right based approach will also mean more than examining procedures", "start": 3622.48, "end": 3629.2}, {"text": "alone it will mean reviewing the built environment of the shelter system mechanisms for feedback and the", "start": 3629.2, "end": 3635.72}, {"text": "objectives and targets to monitor the plan's success in terms of the condition of the city shelters the camate shelter", "start": 3635.72, "end": 3643.039}, {"text": "safety study noted that overcrowding was a significant issue while some of the plan's recommendations could help with", "start": 3643.039, "end": 3649.44}, {"text": "this overtime there's a need to address how well shelters are meeting resident needs now especially in the winter", "start": 3649.44, "end": 3655.599}, {"text": "months the city can also consider how to improve accommodations for people with", "start": 3655.599, "end": 3660.799}, {"text": "disabilities informed by the city's audits of shelter accessibility in addition while we're", 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support approving this plan there are opportunities to further grounded in a rights based", "start": 3704.76, "end": 3710.88}, {"text": "approach as it's implemented thank you thank you very much um are there any", "start": 3710.88, "end": 3717.48}, {"text": "questions of the deput no thanks very much for being here", "start": 3717.48, "end": 3722.68}, {"text": "today the next uh uh speaker is Callum", "start": 3722.68, "end": 3729.24}, {"text": "Houston or hon Callum is Callum here online not at", "start": 3729.24, "end": 3738.799}, {"text": "present um the next speaker is Edward Pera uh from Toronto shelter Network", "start": 3738.799, "end": 3746.16}, {"text": "Edward is online um Edward welcome to committee you have three", "start": 3746.16, "end": 3751.44}, {"text": "minutes thank you very much Madam chair uh my name is Edward Pereira and I'm tsn's project coordinator for the", "start": 3751.44, "end": 3757.68}, {"text": "pipeline project uh the Toronto shelter Network represents more than 34 organizations that collectively deliver", "start": 3757.68, "end": 3763.52}, {"text": "Toronto's 24-hour homelessness Services TSN is deputing to express our support", "start": 3763.52, "end": 3768.92}, {"text": "for the recommendations brought forward in the shelter Safety Action Plan Toronto shelter system has been faced", "start": 3768.92, "end": 3774.359}, {"text": "with tremendous pressure since the p pandemic began over 12,000 people are currently in shelters and bridging", "start": 3774.359, "end": 3779.96}, {"text": "programs there are over 200 encampments and over 230 callers to Central intake", "start": 3779.96, "end": 3785.2}, {"text": "are not matched with beds many shelter hotels have closed including the Delta hotel a 400 bed Shelter Hotel that", "start": 3785.2, "end": 3792.16}, {"text": "stopped taking admissions this month over 6,000 people are Refugee claimants supervised consumption sites are", "start": 3792.16, "end": 3798.52}, {"text": "anticipated to close in at the end of March 2025 there is overcrowding in shelters insufficient mental health and", "start": 3798.52, "end": 3805.52}, {"text": "harm reduction supports nimbyism for new and existing projects and an urgent need", "start": 3805.52, "end": 3810.76}, {"text": "for safe adequate affordable and Supportive Housing and better income supports Toronto shelter and support", "start": 3810.76, "end": 3816.72}, {"text": "services requested access to TSN six sector table meetings plus an all member meeting to represent the camage report", "start": 3816.72, "end": 3823.559}, {"text": "and ask for input from our member agencies there was also a full session with the representatives of the shelter", "start": 3823.559, "end": 3828.92}, {"text": "and housing advisory committee it was clear from these sessions that there is a need for", "start": 3828.92, "end": 3834.24}, {"text": "consistency and followup regarding service restrictions within uh organizations and across the sector as", 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are addressing this now over a multi-year plan but increased funding", "start": 3877.599, "end": 3884.599}, {"text": "could accelerate this timeline other physical recreational and social programming is also important and will", "start": 3884.599, "end": 3891}, {"text": "create safer environments for both staff and clients uh the government of Ontario recognize that supervised consumption", "start": 3891, "end": 3897.599}, {"text": "sites are crucial to the well-being of those with substance use issues and should be a part of the system which", "start": 3897.599, "end": 3903.16}, {"text": "includes treatment at the new homelessness and addiction recovery treatment centers TSN urges the economic", "start": 3903.16, "end": 3909.64}, {"text": "and Community Development Committee to adopt the recommendations of the general manager of the Toronto shelter and", "start": 3909.64, "end": 3914.96}, {"text": "support services the executive director of the housing Secretariat and the chief procan officer and approve the", "start": 3914.96, "end": 3920.96}, {"text": "recommendations of EC 17.4 I'd like to thank the Madam chair and the Committee Member for this", "start": 3920.96, "end": 3926.24}, {"text": "opportunity to speak okay thank you very much are there any questions of the", "start": 3926.24, "end": 3932.92}, {"text": "deput no thank you for coming to committee today we um now have uh Callum Houston", "start": 3932.92, "end": 3941.2}, {"text": "uh who is online and uh we' like to welcome Callum to committee you have three", "start": 3941.2, "end": 3947.359}, {"text": "minutes hi uh thank you for having me um I'll make it", "start": 3947.359, "end": 3953.119}, {"text": "brief uh since much of uh what I was going to say is already been been reiterated", "start": 3953.119, "end": 3959.799}, {"text": "um the report outlining City commitment to increase improve shelter safety for", "start": 3959.799, "end": 3966.52}, {"text": "staff and shelter residents uh it also includes 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churches there's a lot of good things in there", "start": 4011.72, "end": 4018.2}, {"text": "but uh the city does need to recognize of this impending emergency and the", "start": 4018.2, "end": 4023.96}, {"text": "deadly impact that it will have on the unhoused community um the also I advocate that", "start": 4023.96, "end": 4029.72}, {"text": "you guys stand up to the province uh a publicly opposed policies and approaches", "start": 4029.72, "end": 4035.359}, {"text": "that have evident shows actually will harm people or or make it harder for them to uh secure longer uh secure", "start": 4035.359, "end": 4043.119}, {"text": "permanent housing um and to continue to deliver evidence-based supports within the", "start": 4043.119, "end": 4049.44}, {"text": "shelter system I think that's um very much key to to improving people's", "start": 4049.44, "end": 4055.96}, {"text": "conditions um that's pretty much everything I like I said I wanted to keep it", "start": 4055.96, "end": 4061.4}, {"text": "brief uh thank thank you Callum any questions for deput seeing none thank", "start": 4061.4, "end": 4067.96}, {"text": "you uh next up is uh Savannah Wilson Toronto Alliance to end homelessness are", "start": 4067.96, "end": 4073.76}, {"text": "you here okay three minut", "start": 4073.76, "end": 4077.44}, {"text": "thank you counselor uh my name is Savannah Wilson I'm with the Toronto Alliance to end homelessness uh Network", "start": 4078.96, "end": 4084.48}, {"text": "can you hold for a second please thank you", "start": 4084.48, "end": 4089}, {"text": "okay you may continue thank you um I'm with the Toronto Alliance to end homelessness a", "start": 4116.239, "end": 4121.719}, {"text": "network of over 100 Partners across the city United in a vision of ending homelessness I want to commend the", "start": 4121.719, "end": 4127.96}, {"text": "city's initiative uh to engage camh to do the shelter safety study and this", "start": 4127.96, "end": 4133.719}, {"text": "safety 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as risky can lead to", "start": 4252.719, "end": 4259.159}, {"text": "discrimination further marginalization especially if the system fails to account for the nuanced context of their", "start": 4259.159, "end": 4265.6}, {"text": "behavior over surveillance can also erode privacy Foster distrust and", "start": 4265.6, "end": 4270.8}, {"text": "increase disengagement from Services um for to that end these the uh it's", "start": 4270.8, "end": 4277.36}, {"text": "neither effective in addressing the root causes of harm in the system like the lack of mental health care and", "start": 4277.36, "end": 4283.4}, {"text": "increasingly volatile and unpredicted able substance use support systems and a lack of deeply affordable and supportive", "start": 4283.4, "end": 4289.52}, {"text": "housing options these are Central to both the shelter safety plan and the homelessness Services Capital", "start": 4289.52, "end": 4294.84}, {"text": "infrastructure strategy and more transparent implementation of the monitoring of that system could mitigate", "start": 4294.84, "end": 4300.48}, {"text": "the risk of the system undermining the very goals of the safety plan itself thank you very much um I know that you", "start": 4300.48, "end": 4306.56}, {"text": "rushed to finish but do you have any other uh did you have any other um comments that you weren't able to make", "start": 4306.56, "end": 4312.8}, {"text": "uh I think I'm I'm very pleased to see restor of jus Justice named in this report I would like to invite and encourage the exploration into", "start": 4312.8, "end": 4319.88}, {"text": "restorative justice models to also include moving beyond restorative justice to towards transformative", "start": 4319.88, "end": 4326.12}, {"text": "Justice um it promotes Collective responsibility and is a tool to to build", "start": 4326.12, "end": 4331.719}, {"text": "and change systems to prevent harm rather than just respond to it thank you any other questions of the", "start": 4331.719, 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seeing none we'll go to uh Joshua", "start": 4583.679, "end": 4589.8}, {"text": "Feldman Joshua Feldman oh here you are welcome to", "start": 4590.76, "end": 4597.199}, {"text": "committee you have three", "start": 4597.199, "end": 4600.84}, {"text": "minutes go ahead okay thank you can you hear me okay is that right", "start": 4606.28, "end": 4611.96}, {"text": "yeah thanks very well um my name is Josh f and I'm here representing Health Providers against poverty uh in response", "start": 4611.96, "end": 4619.08}, {"text": "to community advocacy from diverse groups including people with lived experience of homelessness outreaching", "start": 4619.08, "end": 4624.28}, {"text": "Community workers as well as healthc care providers the city of Toronto has improved winter access to shelter and rest bit", "start": 4624.28, "end": 4630.4}, {"text": "centers we commend these efforts however these changes are insufficient to keep people struggling to live in this city", "start": 4630.4, "end": 4636.96}, {"text": "safe and housed that by the city of Toronto's own admission these increases will fall unacceptably short the city's", "start": 4636.96, "end": 4644.199}, {"text": "2024 2025 winter plan States the number of people in need of shelter and housing in Toronto has continued to grow due to", "start": 4644.199, "end": 4651.48}, {"text": "inadequate income supports lack of affordable housing increased cost of living and additional Refugee claiming", "start": 4651.48, "end": 4657.84}, {"text": "arrivals while additional shelter space warming centers and new housing will help many in need this winter seasonal", "start": 4657.84, "end": 4664.08}, {"text": "plans cannot fully address the increasing demand for shelter instead of instead of devoting appropriate funding", "start": 4664.08, "end": 4670.36}, {"text": "to ensure we have sufficient number of safe spaces for people experiencing disadvantage mayor Olivia Chow increased", "start": 4670.36, "end": 4676.28}, {"text": "the 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want", "start": 7302.28, "end": 7312.56}, {"text": "from that role is it investigations that might be important uh is it reviews is", "start": 7312.56, "end": 7319.88}, {"text": "it Trends is it best practice in throughout the world that we can access", "start": 7319.88, "end": 7325.28}, {"text": "to make better decisions here in the city in other words do you front end load it or do you backend load it staff", "start": 7325.28, "end": 7331.28}, {"text": "do everything and then get there's a investigation into how it worked out if it didn't work out if it did work out um", "start": 7331.28, "end": 7338.4}, {"text": "usually it didn't work out or is it ahead of time and this is the best practice particularly in the digital age", "start": 7338.4, "end": 7344.52}, {"text": "so I can't speak after you make your motion but I speaking ahead of it that that I think it's really nested in one", "start": 7344.52, "end": 7352.239}, {"text": "place is it uh is that the right place still we got the year report from the", "start": 7352.239, "end": 7358}, {"text": "utsman and it is very investigative heavy so that brought this up to my mind", "start": 7358, "end": 7364.119}, {"text": "and I think into yours so I will certainly support this direction of your motion thank", "start": 7364.119, "end": 7370.04}, {"text": "you thank you Council sir um any other speakers so I do um first of all have a", "start": 7370.04, "end": 7378.32}, {"text": "motion um to move coming um um from the", "start": 7378.32, "end": 7384.719}, {"text": "housing rights advisory uh committee uh requesting the deputy that city council", "start": 7384.719, "end": 7390.719}, {"text": "request the deputy utsman to provide updates on um the ombudsman's Tonto uh", "start": 7390.719, "end": 7396.52}, {"text": "housing units housing rights framework at each housing rights advisory committee meeting in 2025", "start": 7396.52, "end": 7403.159}, {"text": "um the second motion uh refers to uh what councelor Fletcher has just spoken to and it is essentially that um it's a", "start": 7403.159, "end": 7412.079}, {"text": "request for the city manager to report um to Executive um on the original", "start": 7412.079, "end": 7418.56}, {"text": "functions that were set out in 2019 with respect to uh areas that are not", "start": 7418.56, "end": 7425.079}, {"text": "necessarily attended to in the ombudsman's report um which as Council", "start": 7425.079, "end": 7430.719}, {"text": "Fletcher says has taken on important investigations um this is really", "start": 7430.719, "end": 7436.04}, {"text": "referring to uh functions of the Housing Commission or as they were initially", "start": 7436.04, "end": 7441.719}, {"text": "envisioned um and which were set out in the um matri crane report of 2022 in", "start": 7441.719, "end": 7449.92}, {"text": "which um a commissioner would review and assess the systemic issues and hurdles", "start": 7449.92, "end": 7455}, {"text": "for the implementation of the obligations that the city has taken on itself through the Toronto housing", "start": 7455, "end": 7460.28}, {"text": "Charter and our housing to plan um going to 2030 uh provide expertise on housing as", "start": 7460.28, "end": 7467.159}, {"text": "a human right which is as yet a very unsettled question um so what does that look like what is what's the Baseline", "start": 7467.159, "end": 7473.96}, {"text": "what are the definitions um making recommendations to city council around these pieces and", "start": 7473.96, "end": 7480.84}, {"text": "providing advice to the public service at at various levels city manager Deputy", "start": 7480.84, "end": 7486.4}, {"text": "city managers and relevant divisions while my motion doesn't indicate a way forward in particular but we do want to", "start": 7486.4, "end": 7492.48}, {"text": "examine how these um unfulfilled functions could be fulfilled because as", "start": 7492.48, "end": 7497.92}, {"text": "we looked at in the previous item the the lack of of progress on on housing", "start": 7497.92, "end": 7503.52}, {"text": "and affordable housing is a systemic question that it has an important player as the municipal government but it does", "start": 7503.52, "end": 7510.44}, {"text": "intersect obviously with the provincial and federal governments there's context there's funding", "start": 7510.44, "end": 7515.76}, {"text": "relationships um and that we want to make sure that every in every way um we're aligning across divisions across", "start": 7515.76, "end": 7523.119}, {"text": "initiatives to make sure that we're fulfilling these pieces and that the question of housing as a human right is", "start": 7523.119, "end": 7529.04}, {"text": "is very important in how we investigate how programs have been administered and how policies are developed but it also", "start": 7529.04, "end": 7536.48}, {"text": "has to do with how we build out what we have so Council fetcher has talked about", "start": 7536.48, "end": 7541.719}, {"text": "frontend loading so do we look at everything through this lens and make sure that we're complying with our", "start": 7541.719, "end": 7547.119}, {"text": "obligations as we've adopted in Council decisions um and in then on the other", "start": 7547.119, "end": 7552.4}, {"text": "end this is the investigation once you've already made the mistake then you kind of face the consequences and I", "start": 7552.4, "end": 7558.719}, {"text": "think at this moment in time given what Toronto and and is facing we need to make sure that every step that we take", "start": 7558.719, "end": 7565.4}, {"text": "every dollar that we invest every policy that we make every program that we initiative that we initiate is actually", "start": 7565.4, "end": 7571.92}, {"text": "um making bringing us forward um and that way we can hold ourselves accountable and make sure that where", "start": 7571.92, "end": 7578.159}, {"text": "there ever there is a systemic barrier a cult barrier within the organization um or any kind of uh gaps", "start": 7578.159, "end": 7586.599}, {"text": "that exist that we're attending to these with every energy that we have so that we can resolve the biggest problems that", "start": 7586.599, "end": 7591.92}, {"text": "we face right now so on that I just have a question on your motion chair oh yes", "start": 7591.92, "end": 7598.119}, {"text": "counselor I I'm just interested in how motions come from the housing accessibility committee to to city", "start": 7598.119, "end": 7605.88}, {"text": "council is there a pathway for that um I'm not sure I think that that's", "start": 7605.88, "end": 7612.719}, {"text": "the the housing rights advisory is an advisory committee so per it has to", "start": 7612.719, "end": 7618.679}, {"text": "report somewhere and those motions would have to come in to a", "start": 7618.679, "end": 7623.92}, {"text": "clerk yes but but they they", "start": 7623.92, "end": 7628.52}, {"text": "go it the the clerk has informed me that it depends 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8370.359}, {"text": "to Quality child care and how neighborhoods affect Child Care Quality since 2014 lowincome families", "start": 8370.36, "end": 8378.719}, {"text": "are being increasingly crowded out of licensed Child Care spaces in order to", "start": 8378.719, "end": 8384.439}, {"text": "avoid further widening of the equity Gap the following actions are immediately", "start": 8384.44, "end": 8389.8}, {"text": "required even before the fees are decreasing to $22 a day next January the", "start": 8389.8, "end": 8396.84}, {"text": "council should mandate that all programs benefiting from Public Funding must be", "start": 8396.84, "end": 8402.08}, {"text": "accountable from for program quality through annual quality assessment that", "start": 8402.08, "end": 8407.8}, {"text": "all programs benefiting from Public Funding must accept subsidized children", "start": 8407.8, "end": 8413.2}, {"text": "that subsidized families must have a priority for admission to municipally operated programs and a minimum", "start": 8413.2, "end": 8420.72}, {"text": "percentage of SP spaces in every Community program shall be guaranteed for Access by children from low-income", "start": 8420.72, "end": 8428.319}, {"text": "families these measures should come into place as soon as possible waiting for", "start": 8428.319, "end": 8433.88}, {"text": "the scheduled late February ecdc meeting or even Another Round Table later in the", "start": 8433.88, "end": 8439.359}, {"text": "spring will not only make things worse but we also will have knock on effects", "start": 8439.359, "end": 8444.72}, {"text": "on City's poverty reduction strategy demand for housing subsidies a potential", "start": 8444.72, "end": 8450.12}, {"text": "demand for social assistance and other supports the same urgency for Action", "start": 8450.12, "end": 8455.8}, {"text": "applies to the second issue I wish to bring forward as early as the spring of", "start": 8455.8, "end": 8461.439}, {"text": "2025 we could have in place a new government whose policy position is the", "start": 8461.439, "end": 8468.16}, {"text": "abolishment of the $10 Child Care Program and a reintroduction of direct funding of All Families similar to the", "start": 8468.16, "end": 8475.8}, {"text": "Harper government's Universal childcare benefit I am recommending that City", "start": 8475.8, "end": 8481.359}, {"text": "constitutes an internal task force with participation from Human Services", "start": 8481.359, "end": 8486.96}, {"text": "Economic Development and culture and finance divisions with a mandate to address the impact of the likely", "start": 8486.96, "end": 8493.16}, {"text": "canellation of qual the task force should consider all negative impacts of", "start": 8493.16, "end": 8498.8}, {"text": "cancellations for children and their families service providers neighborhoods and local businesses it also should", "start": 8498.8, "end": 8506.2}, {"text": "consider the probability of having to increase funding for child care subsidies social assistance cost", "start": 8506.2, "end": 8512.56}, {"text": "pressures for affordable housing and other social supports this analysis should be the share with other", "start": 8512.56, "end": 8519.52}, {"text": "municipalities elected uh representatives and community at large finally because planning is as much for", "start": 8519.52, "end": 8527.24}, {"text": "bad weather as good it is important that the city staff develop contingency plans", "start": 8527.24, "end": 8533}, {"text": "at the earliest opportunity waiting until the emergency actually happens will be too late for any meaningful", "start": 8533, "end": 8540.08}, {"text": "action thank you thank you thank you for your deputation uh is suana Jang she's online", "start": 8540.08, "end": 8548.2}, {"text": "uh welcome to committee you have three", "start": 8548.2, "end": 8551.92}, {"text": "minutes do you hear me yes you have three minutes go ahead thank you thank", "start": 8555.52, "end": 8561.88}, {"text": "you councelor bra to give me a opportunity to talk my name is Sultana Jang I'm from South Asian women's rights", "start": 8561.88, "end": 8568.319}, {"text": "organization we are community women Light Community Based organization founded by immigrant women living in the", "start": 8568.319, "end": 8574.399}, {"text": "ois tacy and surrounding East Danforth neighborhood we have been long advocate", "start": 8574.399, "end": 8579.6}, {"text": "for full funding Universal child care for low income and no income parents all children have the right to early Lear", "start": 8579.6, "end": 8585.64}, {"text": "and healthy development regardless of their mother's employment status income immigration status neighborhood and any", "start": 8585.64, "end": 8592.12}, {"text": "other Factor the announcement of cwcc was important for many low income", "start": 8592.12, "end": 8597.64}, {"text": "and no income pents and caregiver lack of access to childcare is a significant barrier to employment for many mothers", "start": 8597.64, "end": 8603.84}, {"text": "and result is inequitable access to Early Learning and quality child care for the children we are excited to see", "start": 8603.84, "end": 8609.88}, {"text": "the trajectory of changing change uh which we welcome the this long overd", "start": 8609.88, "end": 8615.24}, {"text": "strategy and in its benefit we continue to be left behind first there is a space", "start": 8615.24, "end": 8620.319}, {"text": "crisis in the community we live and work in Scarboro itoo and other similar area are considered chare desert yet have", "start": 8620.319, "end": 8628.359}, {"text": "little to no space and not many child School based Child Care are being cancelled so uh the city's previous", "start": 8628.359, "end": 8635.88}, {"text": "Target to create Child Care space for 50% of Toronto child population excluded", "start": 8635.88, "end": 8641.16}, {"text": "our communities and this exclusion is continuing by both the Ontario government and City second there is a", "start": 8641.16, "end": 8647.399}, {"text": "lack of commitment and action to secure and expand Child Care subsidies for low income and no income mother the current", "start": 8647.399, "end": 8654.319}, {"text": "average rate $22 a day and eventually $10 a day is still too much for precariously employed low and no income", "start": 8654.319, "end": 8661.52}, {"text": "parents and caregiver parallel provincial governments not the city did not aark any fund to secure childcare", "start": 8661.52, "end": 8669.2}, {"text": "subsidy this will continue to exclude and harms Community lastly child care", "start": 8669.2, "end": 8674.24}, {"text": "workers continue to experience precarious employment Arrangement ECE ECA and other steps are integral to the", "start": 8674.24, "end": 8681.359}, {"text": "early development of the children of our children yet are facing substandard work", "start": 8681.359, "end": 8686.399}, {"text": "conditions such as low chaotic scheduling the prevents of temporary help agency misclassification as", "start": 8686.399, "end": 8692.96}, {"text": "contractors and challenges in accessing work related benefit on this occasion my Community member our Advocates elected", "start": 8692.96, "end": 8700}, {"text": "representative and policy maker to not leave us behind again we can cannot", "start": 8700, "end": 8705.24}, {"text": "afford to be the exclud excluded we demand increased Child Care spaces Target to meet at least 85% of the", "start": 8705.24, "end": 8711.479}, {"text": "Toronto child population these spaces must be Public School based Community Based and nonprofit to ensure quality", "start": 8711.479, "end": 8718.04}, {"text": "and accessible care and allow must prioritize in under and high needs", "start": 8718.04, "end": 8723.84}, {"text": "Community ensure immediate full funding for Child Care Subsidy for no and low income women and re revise eligibility", "start": 8723.84, "end": 8730.68}, {"text": "to accommodate parents with precarious immigration status and employment status Implement public standards of employment", "start": 8730.68, "end": 8736.96}, {"text": "and labor practices to protect all childcare worker this including ending the use for for-profit staffing agency", "start": 8736.96, "end": 8744.72}, {"text": "provincial City Pay G that start for the Living Way public accessible training and dignified", "start": 8744.72, "end": 8750.84}, {"text": "condition I'll conclude my um repeating our demand to not to left behind us", "start": 8750.84, "end": 8756.279}, {"text": "again we must recognize the right dignity and security for one in order to", "start": 8756.279, "end": 8761.359}, {"text": "guarantee the security for all and every children deserve quality child care and", "start": 8761.359, "end": 8766.439}, {"text": "every mother thank you for your deputation uh the next deput is Donna", "start": 8766.439, "end": 8773.04}, {"text": "spriter dral childcare Advocates is done online yeah welcome to committee you", "start": 8773.04, "end": 8779.359}, {"text": "have three minutes Toronto Child Care Advocates has", "start": 8779.359, "end": 8786.6}, {"text": "submitted a comprehensive five-page document to this committee it includes", "start": 8786.6, "end": 8791.64}, {"text": "tcca support for the three motions I urge you to read tcca submission and", "start": 8791.64, "end": 8797.68}, {"text": "consider the additional recommendations my name is Donna spritzer and I'm here today to tell you that the Child Care", "start": 8797.68, "end": 8804.319}, {"text": "Community needs more aggressive action from the city to defend seel and help", "start": 8804.319, "end": 8809.8}, {"text": "drive it success we are concerned that in the current political environment $10 a day", "start": 8809.8, "end": 8815.8}, {"text": "Child Care is at risk we recognize the province and the feds have the fiscal capacity to do more but the city has", "start": 8815.8, "end": 8822.76}, {"text": "always been assistant manager and fun historically to the tune of 20% we are", "start": 8822.76, "end": 8829.08}, {"text": "therefore calling on the city to do its fair share if the city wants to achieve", "start": 8829.08, "end": 8834.319}, {"text": "its Equity goals and address poverty and meet its Targets in the provincial plan", "start": 8834.319, "end": 8839.56}, {"text": "plan and the city's growth strategy policy it needs to find new Innovative strategies to expand nonprofit spaces", "start": 8839.56, "end": 8847.6}, {"text": "for example loan funds for nonprofits and directly building child care in new", "start": 8847.6, "end": 8853.6}, {"text": "housing and of course working towards paying childcare workers a livable wage and good benefits with the goal of", "start": 8853.6, "end": 8860.279}, {"text": "achieving parody with city workers I want to put a plugin for loans or", "start": 8860.279, "end": 8865.56}, {"text": "revolving loans for nonprofit centers I'm not sure you are aware but it's nearly impossible for nonprofits to", "start": 8865.56, "end": 8872.279}, {"text": "borrow money from a bank when I was a childcare director it took me 10 years to convince the bank to give us a credit", "start": 8872.279, "end": 8879.56}, {"text": "card we know the capital funding is an obstacle for growth it's in the report", "start": 8879.56, "end": 8884.92}, {"text": "if we want more child care spaces and expansion in the nonprofit sector we need the provincial government to", "start": 8884.92, "end": 8890.68}, {"text": "release Toronto share of the promised infrastructure money this 625 million", "start": 8890.68, "end": 8896.8}, {"text": "fund was announced by the feds in 2023 and has not yet been", "start": 8896.8, "end": 8901.88}, {"text": "allocated the community is alarmed that act that the actual revenue allocations for 2025 and Beyond are yet unknown for", "start": 8901.88, "end": 8910.72}, {"text": "the third year in a row Boards of directors are trying to budget with no Assurance of the revenue stream this is", "start": 8910.72, "end": 8917.439}, {"text": "taking a serious toll on childcare operators who are dedicated mostly women", "start": 8917.439, "end": 8923}, {"text": "holding the system together on a wing in a prayer I can assure you that depending on prayer is no way to operate", "start": 8923, "end": 8931.08}, {"text": "now more than ever we depend on the city to better assist operators by providing more frequent and improved communication", "start": 8931.08, "end": 8938.439}, {"text": "through eblast q&as and town halls where operators can get their questions", "start": 8938.439, "end": 8943.56}, {"text": "answered and to do this so all operators receive the same information to", "start": 8943.56, "end": 8948.72}, {"text": "effectively navigate the system and access optimal funding we urge the city", "start": 8948.72, "end": 8954.8}, {"text": "to strengthen intergovernmental advocacy Advocates and operators want want to", "start": 8954.8, "end": 8960.52}, {"text": "work with the city to make seawalk successful for families and Educators", "start": 8960.52, "end": 8965.84}, {"text": "alike thank you to the committee and children's services for your important", "start": 8965.84, "end": 8971.399}, {"text": "work thank you very much for your deputation uh the next uh speaker is", "start": 8971.399, "end": 8976.439}, {"text": "Melissa Bruno is Melissa online welcome to committee you have", "start": 8976.439, "end": 8982.2}, {"text": "three", "start": 8982.2, "end": 8984.439}, {"text": "minutes go ahead there good morning thank you chair uh I'd like to speak to", "start": 8988.64, "end": 8994.2}, {"text": "both recommendations one and three from Children Services uh my name is Melissa bro and I'm one of the affected parents", "start": 8994.2, "end": 9001.04}, {"text": "from a for-profit daycare that has decided to pull out of the national subsidy program in the new year uh I", "start": 9001.04, "end": 9008.399}, {"text": "have a three and a half yearold that goes to sunyside daycare and we received a notice on November 1 that our fees", "start": 9008.399, "end": 9014.84}, {"text": "were going to go from $900 to $2,100 a month uh because they were pulling out", "start": 9014.84, "end": 9020.84}, {"text": "of the subsidy program we also have a daughter who was on The Sibling priority", "start": 9020.84, "end": 9026.64}, {"text": "list and so for two kids in daycare at full tuition it meant that we would uh", "start": 9026.64, "end": 9033.359}, {"text": "be paying $4,700 a month we made you know major", "start": 9033.359, "end": 9038.84}, {"text": "life decisions based on the budget that included a Child Care Subsidy and I don't know many other people who can", "start": 9038.84, "end": 9045.319}, {"text": "afford an additional $1,000 to their monthly budget let alone $44,000 a month", "start": 9045.319, "end": 9052.479}, {"text": "the reason that the operators provided to us was simply that the model wasn't working for them and that the program", "start": 9052.479, "end": 9059.279}, {"text": "was too difficult for them to participate in we found out after", "start": 9059.279, "end": 9064.319}, {"text": "talking to other groups of parents that um out of the 14 for-profit daycares", "start": 9064.319, "end": 9070.92}, {"text": "that were opting out of the program seven of them were linked to the same corporate", "start": 9070.92, "end": 9076.24}, {"text": "chain so a community of parents came together we draft Ed a letter with over a 100 signatures to request a meeting", "start": 9076.24, "end": 9084.08}, {"text": "with the ownership and asked that they provide more information and transparency in terms of why they were", "start": 9084.08, "end": 9090.2}, {"text": "pulling out of the subsidy program we applied significant media pressure we", "start": 9090.2, "end": 9096.279}, {"text": "named these owners publicly and finally after a few weeks we received a", "start": 9096.279, "end": 9102.88}, {"text": "three-page nonresponse from the owners that essentially said no to a meeting", "start": 9102.88, "end": 9108.2}, {"text": "they did not provide further clarity uh in terms of why they were pulling out of the subsidy they just reiterated", "start": 9108.2, "end": 9114.04}, {"text": "their position and expressed a hope that the national subsidy program would one", "start": 9114.04, "end": 9119.16}, {"text": "day increase viability and more choice in selecting child care for parents", "start": 9119.16, "end": 9126.04}, {"text": "which I think is really interesting that they honed in on this idea of choice since their entire business model is", "start": 9126.04, "end": 9133.12}, {"text": "taking advantage of a supply and demand Dynamic these owners know that their", "start": 9133.12, "end": 9139.2}, {"text": "weight list is hundreds of kids long and they're banking on the fact that", "start": 9139.2, "end": 9145.64}, {"text": "families will have no other option but to pay the fees that they set in our", "start": 9145.64, "end": 9151.399}, {"text": "particular area in the West End of Toronto there's no space in surrounding nonprofit dayc carees my son has been on", "start": 9151.399, "end": 9158.8}, {"text": "the weight list for almost four years uh families are now scrambling to", "start": 9158.8, "end": 9163.92}, {"text": "find alternative care whether it's unlicensed daycares uh Nanny shares", "start": 9163.92, "end": 9169.52}, {"text": "which requires you to have adequate space in your home uh we're looking at ad hoc care options with family and", "start": 9169.52, "end": 9176.92}, {"text": "friends which we're gonna have to ask you to wrap up but um I can ask you a follow-up question um sure can do you go", "start": 9176.92, "end": 9185.68}, {"text": "ahead and finish your thought I think it's an important ultimately what's happening is", "start": 9185.68, "end": 9191.08}, {"text": "people are taking out lines of credit and they're refinancing their mortgages because they don't have an option but to pay for the care or they're going to", "start": 9191.08, "end": 9197}, {"text": "leave the workforce uh altogether which obviously becomes at an economic disadvantage uh to the entire city I", "start": 9197, "end": 9204.64}, {"text": "worry that these particular owners will profit even more if the cap on for-profit centers is lifted there", "start": 9204.64, "end": 9211.76}, {"text": "obviously should be no place in our society for investors and veter capitalist to make profits in child care", "start": 9211.76, "end": 9218.72}, {"text": "settings and so I have three asks for the committee members to consider today one is that the city prevent any", "start": 9218.72, "end": 9225.2}, {"text": "additional licenses that uh should be given to this particular corporate chain", "start": 9225.2, "end": 9230.479}, {"text": "that the city look at providing Capital Loans to community groups like The affected parents of these for-profit", "start": 9230.479, "end": 9236.12}, {"text": "centers who want and are willing to put in the work to open a nonprofit daycare and that the city include this", "start": 9236.12, "end": 9242.279}, {"text": "particular group of affected parents in future discussions on child care in Toronto thank you thank you very much", "start": 9242.279, "end": 9248.56}, {"text": "for your deputations any other questions of the deput we'll go to our final deput", "start": 9248.56, "end": 9254.12}, {"text": "uh John weather online okay welcome to committee", "start": 9254.12, "end": 9261.08}, {"text": "you have three", "start": 9261.08, "end": 9263.72}, {"text": "minutes hello can you hear me sorry yes go ahead please three minutes okay thank", "start": 9267, "end": 9272.68}, {"text": "you my my name is John weather and I'm the president of uh Tonto education Workers Local 4400 we represent about", "start": 9272.68, "end": 9281.399}, {"text": "17,000 uh employees across four uh School boards Tonto District School", "start": 9281.399, "end": 9286.439}, {"text": "Board Tonto Catholic School Board beond in BL review we also represent for child", "start": 9286.439, "end": 9291.68}, {"text": "carees um just uh uh we're very supportive of the report uh there's a", "start": 9291.68, "end": 9296.76}, {"text": "number of groups who spoken before us on some of the changes and some questions that they put forward I bring it from an", "start": 9296.76, "end": 9303.52}, {"text": "education perspective and uh how uh Child Care Now moving under the Ministry", "start": 9303.52, "end": 9309.2}, {"text": "of Education and the importance that it brings to education there's in the most of the reports that come out education", "start": 9309.2, "end": 9316.439}, {"text": "is mentioned but not highlighted on the impact of learning for children in the", "start": 9316.439, "end": 9322.16}, {"text": "early years and I know there's just one out yesterday the future of work empowering growth we seem to get our", "start": 9322.16, "end": 9329}, {"text": "minds around uh uh you know bring women out of poverty wages those types of", "start": 9329, "end": 9335.359}, {"text": "things but there's little discussion on things like the Pascal report that was a number of years ago the oecd report on", "start": 9335.359, "end": 9342.56}, {"text": "the economic benefits of children in the education and the benefits of providing quality child so I think we just wanted", "start": 9342.56, "end": 9350.08}, {"text": "to highlight a few of those things the other thing is when we talk about we look at these things from a poverty", "start": 9350.08, "end": 9356.8}, {"text": "reduction or antipoverty the structure that's set up for wages that are", "start": 9356.8, "end": 9361.84}, {"text": "proposed in the city of Toronto means that women predominantly working in this these jobs cannot afford to live in the", "start": 9361.84, "end": 9369.319}, {"text": "city of Toronto and if they do they're really living very close to the poverty level or below secondly their pensions", "start": 9369.319, "end": 9376.76}, {"text": "normally defined contribution outside of municipality and education means that they're destined for a life of poverty", "start": 9376.76, "end": 9383.08}, {"text": "when they retire so as we look at these things and we talk all the benefits all the things that come along with it the", "start": 9383.08, "end": 9389.88}, {"text": "structure itself leads uh women to be in poverty for long periods of time and I think the wage structure in particular", "start": 9389.88, "end": 9397.319}, {"text": "the pension saying that people will be going into what they call a defined contribution plan which runs out and", "start": 9397.319, "end": 9402.84}, {"text": "pays very little pension to women and we know as women age and retire that that", "start": 9402.84, "end": 9408.279}, {"text": "uh they they're life of poverty so I think just asking that if the report does deal with the integration of", "start": 9408.279, "end": 9415.96}, {"text": "Education I think healthc care should be included in the early years we know a lot now about how the brain functions in", "start": 9415.96, "end": 9422.92}, {"text": "children and how they learn as the city and uh the school boards I think it should also include uh sick kids as one", "start": 9422.92, "end": 9430.6}, {"text": "of the leaders in this area uh blue review School auor autism Chio hospitals", "start": 9430.6, "end": 9436.68}, {"text": "there's a number that actually deliver uh how children learn so as closing I", "start": 9436.68, "end": 9442.52}, {"text": "just want to see you know that there better education integration then when we talk about economic interest we don't", "start": 9442.52, "end": 9448.64}, {"text": "have a group of employees or members who are going to be destined for poverty if tensions aren't addressed um Capital", "start": 9448.64, "end": 9456.8}, {"text": "funding with the TDSB and the organizing around Capital funding has already been spoken of but a better integration of", "start": 9456.8, "end": 9463.12}, {"text": "how Capital money is assisted we know the school board had their Capital funding gonna have to ask you to wrap up", "start": 9463.12, "end": 9468.72}, {"text": "sorry I'll just wrap up in in in saying that child carees in schools or where", "start": 9468.72, "end": 9474.72}, {"text": "people live are the way to go moving it out of schools or moving it out of", "start": 9474.72, "end": 9479.88}, {"text": "housing where people are is detriment of parents and it's harmful for students", "start": 9479.88, "end": 9485}, {"text": "and they need to focus on having a school based Bas thank you thank you uh", "start": 9485, "end": 9490.04}, {"text": "for your deputation and now we'll go to questions of Staff any questions uh councilor Moy", "start": 9490.04, "end": 9496.76}, {"text": "questions of staff so when I read to the report uh it said that 0 to 5 years old is 10", "start": 9496.76, "end": 9504.12}, {"text": "day $10 day child care and 6 to 12 it's 22 a day for child care is that correct", "start": 9504.12, "end": 9512.24}, {"text": "is that my understanding the chair sorry can you repeat the 6 to 12 6 to2 is $22", "start": 9512.24, "end": 9518.319}, {"text": "a day and0 to5 is $10 a day y so through through the chair and thank you councelor for that for children 0 to5", "start": 9518.319, "end": 9526.84}, {"text": "effective uh January 1st the fee will be $22 a day for 6 to 12 year olds which", "start": 9526.84, "end": 9533.64}, {"text": "are called school age they are not part of the Canada wide program and those operators set their fees based on their", "start": 9533.64, "end": 9540.319}, {"text": "budget and their revenue so they are not part of that program and they do not they do not", "start": 9540.319, "end": 9546.88}, {"text": "benefit from reduced fees was that always the case or is that just the uh well the case of the", "start": 9546.88, "end": 9555.04}, {"text": "introduction of can Canada wide specifically was to um um provide", "start": 9555.04, "end": 9560.92}, {"text": "affordability for children zero to five okay", "start": 9560.92, "end": 9568.2}, {"text": "um And in regards to recommendation two and three it says here to collaborate", "start": 9568.2, "end": 9575.319}, {"text": "with uh and identify strategies uh to enhance Equitable", "start": 9575.319, "end": 9581.12}, {"text": "access has has that always been done or has it", "start": 9581.12, "end": 9587.92}, {"text": "that sorry has that not been done in the past or are you just starting to do that now I mean this is this is not new and", "start": 9587.92, "end": 9595.52}, {"text": "same thing with uh recommendation three saying to convene a Roundtable meeting", "start": 9595.52, "end": 9600.6}, {"text": "with indigenous Partners I'm I'm assuming that you're referring to task but again is this something that you're", "start": 9600.6, "end": 9607.64}, {"text": "introducing now or should that have been happening already um through the chair um first of", "start": 9607.64, "end": 9615.439}, {"text": "all in terms of collaborating with the childcare sector that's not new new we do that continuously we also as you", "start": 9615.439, "end": 9622.319}, {"text": "heard we have a long history of service plans this really refers to this iteration of our service plan to make", "start": 9622.319, "end": 9629.88}, {"text": "sure that it reflects the changes that have happened in the sector uh so that is a continuous process that we always", "start": 9629.88, "end": 9636.479}, {"text": "do and in terms of engaging yes with the indigenous and other partners again that", "start": 9636.479, "end": 9642.12}, {"text": "is something that we always do and we really rely on that feedback through the", "start": 9642.12, "end": 9647.439}, {"text": "service plan process to understand the uh concerns from the sector opportunities and that's how we build", "start": 9647.439, "end": 9654}, {"text": "out our action plan for the next five years okay because I mean just reading it it just says like for example to", "start": 9654, "end": 9661.08}, {"text": "convene and to um collaborate it doesn't say that", "start": 9661.08, "end": 9666.16}, {"text": "it's uh continuing so I that was fun a little confusing okay those are my", "start": 9666.16, "end": 9673.8}, {"text": "comments thank you or questions thank you um I do have some", "start": 9673.8, "end": 9680.04}, {"text": "questions um I'll start from the the question raised um by one of the", "start": 9680.04, "end": 9687.359}, {"text": "deput CHP sa Bruno uh regarding the lamentable situation those families have", "start": 9687.359, "end": 9692.68}, {"text": "found themselves um is it one of the request is for the city of Toronto to deny or prevent licenses for Bad actors", "start": 9692.68, "end": 9700.2}, {"text": "and the profit making business of child care is do we have that power is that possible um thank thank you chair uh we", "start": 9700.2, "end": 9708.24}, {"text": "don't have that possible those operators who are leaving the program who are exiting are now no", "start": 9708.24, "end": 9714.96}, {"text": "longer um going to receive any government funding they'll be completely Market driven independent operators The", "start": 9714.96, "end": 9722.319}, {"text": "Province actually controls the licensing so they would continue to receive a license through the province and uh", "start": 9722.319, "end": 9729.04}, {"text": "there there are no sanctions that we can take given they'll no longer be um part of our program nor will they be funded", "start": 9729.04, "end": 9736.439}, {"text": "but I I would like to point out that that's very unfortunate for those families and a number of families we", "start": 9736.439, "end": 9742.92}, {"text": "have worked really closely with uh any operator who 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9872.64, "end": 9879.359}, {"text": "yeah the the workers are the care really so um the the on so the ont the Ontario", "start": 9879.359, "end": 9886.479}, {"text": "funding formula uh won't provide ch your funding to Senators outside of of quel", "start": 9886.479, "end": 9892.68}, {"text": "um senators were asked to rejoin quel within a timeline how many senators applied and were accepted both profit", "start": 9892.68, "end": 9897.88}, {"text": "and not for profit um through through the chair or through your speaker the uh", "start": 9897.88, "end": 9903.279}, {"text": "the application or the we reached out to 75 locations in Toronto that were not", "start": 9903.279, "end": 9909.439}, {"text": "participating in the program and I'll just give you some rational for that these are programs that are not in", "start": 9909.439, "end": 9915.92}, {"text": "Canada wide but they are currently receiving uh government funding for fee subsidies for families in some cases and", "start": 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uh the provincial budget um and any renewal of the Canada Ontario action plan I I really want to", "start": 10141.399, "end": 10149}, {"text": "share that I'm I'm very grateful for The Advocates that have come here today there so much Collective wisdom here", "start": 10149, "end": 10155.56}, {"text": "about uh what is needed what could be be possible um with different approaches um", "start": 10155.56, "end": 10162}, {"text": "and that's that's very good to see and I look forward to continuing those conversations as we reconvene um the", "start": 10162, "end": 10168.76}, {"text": "childcare Round Table in the New Year we will continue to discuss this child care", "start": 10168.76, "end": 10173.84}, {"text": "is fundamental to the to the local economy um it's fundamental to the family economy um to the livelihoods of", "start": 10173.84, "end": 10181.08}, {"text": "parents and it's crucial intervention in child development every dollar that we spend", "start": 10181.08, "end": 10187.8}, {"text": "in child care is going to pay off three 357 depending on who you ask children", "start": 10187.8, "end": 10193.08}, {"text": "arrive at School ready to learn um it contributes to Child Development means", "start": 10193.08, "end": 10198.399}, {"text": "contributing to the better outcomes in terms of their performance um not just in terms of school but also um in the", "start": 10198.399, "end": 10205.279}, {"text": "world and and so it's an important Community uh development investment as well um there's a lot of work to do", "start": 10205.279, "end": 10212.84}, {"text": "obviously to to make our child care sector sustainable and that it grows as", "start": 10212.84, "end": 10217.88}, {"text": "it's needed and where needed as one of the deput indicated um and it's clear that we need the federal and provincial", "start": 10217.88, "end": 10223.84}, {"text": "government to resolve the outstanding issues um related to Capital funding for child care infrastructure and a real", "start": 10223.84, "end": 10231.479}, {"text": "plan for the workforce it can't say enough that they need Fair wages because the quality and child care is the", "start": 10231.479, "end": 10238.12}, {"text": "workers that's full stop um and to retain the quality workers that uh we", "start": 10238.12, "end": 10243.72}, {"text": "need to to um ensure that children are receiving great care we need we we need", "start": 10243.72, "end": 10248.84}, {"text": "to recognize that in the workers in the workforce um and of course it's the access for families there's nothing more", "start": 10248.84, "end": 10255.52}, {"text": "desperate making than not having child care that you can afford and knowing that people are going into Deb and", "start": 10255.52, "end": 10260.96}, {"text": "leaving the workforce and being driven into poverty because of these decisions is heartbreaking it puts the entire", "start": 10260.96, "end": 10266.399}, {"text": "family at risk um those are my remarks um 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chair and members of the economic and Community Development Committee thank you for this", "start": 10549.96, "end": 10556.04}, {"text": "opportunity to offer a tenant perspective on this norc proposal my name is Bill lman I am a member of the", "start": 10556.04, "end": 10563.76}, {"text": "stack a nor alumni and Ambassador and a member of the North Toronto neighborhood", "start": 10563.76, "end": 10570.479}, {"text": "care team working group the uh The norc Innovation centers", "start": 10570.479, "end": 10577.359}, {"text": "uh did an article on uh the Home Care model to better enable seniors to age in place safely and", "start": 10577.359, "end": 10583.52}, {"text": "independently and I agree with the research finding that supports this Citywide approach um for an aging place", "start": 10583.52, "end": 10591.359}, {"text": "that in to be included in the third senior strategy um", "start": 10591.359, "end": 10598.52}, {"text": "and our collaborative effort at at the building level to organize and coordinate the delivery of stakeholder", "start": 10598.52, "end": 10605.279}, {"text": "Services you know to individuals in the community um is very similar and our bimonthly", "start": 10605.279, "end": 10614.359}, {"text": "bathur Roundtable is a communication platform for stakeholders to identify their problems concerns explore ideas", "start": 10614.359, "end": 10621.88}, {"text": "and find meaningful Solutions uh to facilitate the services and supports to", "start": 10621.88, "end": 10627}, {"text": "the Ted itss we've identified some things that um you know there's a need", "start": 10627, "end": 10633.08}, {"text": "there's certainly a need for better inter departmental communication uh there's issues around privacy", "start": 10633.08, "end": 10638.8}, {"text": "constraints there's a need for more Hands-On Staffing to provide health care", "start": 10638.8, "end": 10643.84}, {"text": "services and the senior uh senior housing", "start": 10643.84, "end": 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10700.56}, {"text": "be an unstated uh Vision that the 83 senior", "start": 10700.56, "end": 10706}, {"text": "buildings uh will be the point of delivery for the healthc care and Recreation services for the senior", "start": 10706, "end": 10713}, {"text": "population across the city um so I I kind of ask like why isn't there a", "start": 10713, "end": 10719.68}, {"text": "representative voice for the needs of these 15,000 senior tenants recognized", "start": 10719.68, "end": 10724.72}, {"text": "in the senior strategy and we this senior this senior", "start": 10724.72, "end": 10730.84}, {"text": "strategy acknowledge that the Toronto senior housing tenants are an equity deserving", "start": 10730.84, "end": 10737.359}, {"text": "stakeholder in the senior strategy 3.0 and are deserving of voice thank you I'm", "start": 10737.359, "end": 10743.359}, {"text": "going to ask ask you to wrap up thank you very much thank you for your deputation are there any questions of", "start": 10743.359, 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economy working group update and uh we have", "start": 10801.84, "end": 10808.56}, {"text": "deputations the first deput is Harris", "start": 10808.56, "end": 10813.479}, {"text": "Rosen no okay is not here uh second uh", "start": 10814.12, "end": 10819.2}, {"text": "deput is ingred Bud no more noise", "start": 10819.2, "end": 10823.239}, {"text": "Toronto welcome to committee you have three minutes", "start": 10826.359, "end": 10831.92}, {"text": "thank you everyone it's a pleasure to be here and to share my um thoughts on the night economy working groups update", "start": 10848.16, "end": 10855.319}, {"text": "first of all my name is ingr Bud and I'm founder of no more noise Toronto we're a Grassroots organization that focuses on noises that wake us up keep us up and", "start": 10855.319, "end": 10861.84}, {"text": "disturb us day and night I've got limited time so the rest of you know pretty much what we're up to um I do", "start": 10861.84, "end": 10867.52}, {"text": "want to say uh my screen isn't advancing let's do this so I do want to say that no more", "start": 10867.52, "end": 10874.88}, {"text": "noise Toronto is very thankful to be working with the um night economy working group and that we are one of the", "start": 10874.88, "end": 10880.04}, {"text": "external members it's been great to be invited and I share my comments with you in a collaborative vein um so a healthy", "start": 10880.04, "end": 10888.319}, {"text": "night economy requires a responsive Municipal framework that enables nighttime business and culture to thrive", "start": 10888.319, "end": 10893.399}, {"text": "while B balancing the needs of All City residents and visitors so I like to get information", "start": 10893.399, "end": 10899.76}, {"text": "from people and um so I want to know what how Amplified sound bothers people we have a survey out there we've got 33", "start": 10899.76, "end": 10906.2}, {"text": "responses so far and um basically how many nights do people hear Amplified", 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{"text": "there's a priority action approach of three different priority levels does the person know what priority level they are", "start": 10988.64, "end": 10993.96}, {"text": "assigned to basically within a week or so um byw offices will come at 12:30 in", "start": 10993.96, "end": 10999.319}, {"text": "the morning on Thursday and see if the noise is happening and if it's not happening then because it happens to be a Cloudy night as it is on the in the in", "start": 10999.319, "end": 11006.56}, {"text": "the graphic here then they need to come back they need to come back again to get a um an ambient measurement a loud", "start": 11006.56, "end": 11011.84}, {"text": "measurement we don't know how many measurements there may be and then in the meantime the person doesn't really know what's going on and we don't know", "start": 11011.84, "end": 11019.12}, {"text": "if if the business has been ticketed if they're going to court if Their fines or if their like business license has been", 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happens at our nightclubs and bars and restaurants uh when I was", "start": 11120.92, "end": 11127.479}, {"text": "first appointed as the night economy Champion I had a lot of people coming to me um at the 6 P p.m and 6 a.m. their", "start": 11127.479, "end": 11134.6}, {"text": "biggest concern was how to get to work how am I getting home from work um how", "start": 11134.6, "end": 11139.76}, {"text": "am I going to get my shopping done how am I going to meet my family's needs um", "start": 11139.76, "end": 11145.2}, {"text": "because they work all night or they work into the night night um so you know what the night economy were really looking at", "start": 11145.2, "end": 11151.92}, {"text": "doing is making sure that we have that 24-hour economy in the city of Toronto", "start": 11151.92, "end": 11157.399}, {"text": "that we're supporting all of our residents that we finding that balance and needs you can see the the membership", "start": 11157.399, "end": 11164.439}, {"text": "in the attached report of all of the different Services a broad range of", "start": 11164.439, "end": 11169.92}, {"text": "services within the internal working group uh and then the external working group once again it's not just about uh", "start": 11169.92, "end": 11177.6}, {"text": "restaurants and bars it's uh it's a wide range of you know destination Toronto", "start": 11177.6, "end": 11183.239}, {"text": "the Bia um no more noise Toronto um you know", "start": 11183.239, "end": 11189}, {"text": "the Scarboro Arts it's a range of people and representing organizations and the", "start": 11189, "end": 11195.16}, {"text": "Departments right across this city as we try to make our night economy 24-hour", "start": 11195.16, "end": 11201.12}, {"text": "economy work properly right across the city and find this balance so we ensure", "start": 11201.12, "end": 11206.92}, {"text": "that the city Toronto succeeds from one end to the other and I'd ask everybody", "start": 11206.92, "end": 11212.6}, {"text": "for uh their support on the reports that are before us today thank you very much", "start": 11212.6, "end": 11218.64}, {"text": "thank you any other speakers um I think I'll just uh say", "start": 11218.64, "end": 11224.439}, {"text": "thank you uh to the working group um I think I I concur with my colleague that", "start": 11224.439, "end": 11230.68}, {"text": "night mayor um councelor anley that the night economy um um is a lot", "start": 11230.68, "end": 11238.8}, {"text": "more than just um nightclubs and bars so people are ma working in manufacturing", "start": 11238.8, "end": 11245.12}, {"text": "all night they're working in care work significantly in shifts in a number of different Industries print printing um", "start": 11245.12, "end": 11252.88}, {"text": "things that happen 24 hours a day and Sh and and the concerns around are around", "start": 11252.88, "end": 11258.359}, {"text": "Transit and safety and access uh but we spent a lot of time here on the 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11356.96}, {"text": "commercial has a huge impact on on a local economy so we can't divorce these things and I", "start": 11356.96, "end": 11364.279}, {"text": "know there's a lot more work to do and that will be continue to be done by the public service and um and the with the", "start": 11364.279, "end": 11369.96}, {"text": "engagement of council those are my remarks and um I see no other speakers on this coun to speak thank you thanks", "start": 11369.96, "end": 11378.8}, {"text": "go ahead um I just want to follow up uh with what you said councelor anley and", "start": 11378.8, "end": 11384.72}, {"text": "this people that uh there is a 24 our economy not I don't want to focus on all", "start": 11384.72, "end": 11390.6}, {"text": "the bars and restaurants and all the issues there but there are people that do work all night there are people that", "start": 11390.6, "end": 11396.16}, {"text": "are coming have to go to work very early and I remember when there's a the blue", "start": 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{"text": "have to work at night which councelor n you spoke very eloquently about so those are just my remarks today councelor", "start": 11442.84, "end": 11449.88}, {"text": "Bravo thank you uh counselor and to receive the item adopt the", "start": 11449.88, "end": 11456.16}, {"text": "recommendations on the item thank you to the clerk all in favor oppos that's", "start": 11456.16, "end": 11461.359}, {"text": "carried and that concludes our agenda for this meeting thank you to all the staff and to the many deputat and I I", "start": 11461.359, "end": 11468.84}, {"text": "want to spe particularly say to the people that came to speak to committee", "start": 11468.84, "end": 11473.92}, {"text": "um you know I I appreciate their Grace that everyone showed um with the time limit that we needed to ensure that we", "start": 11473.92, "end": 11481.08}, {"text": "were able to finish the agenda being down two members today um has put a lot of pressure and I want to thank my", "start": 11481.08, 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