[{"text": "ladies and gentlemen thank you very much for being here today um we are now going to have our final discussion among", "start": 1.52, "end": 9.559}, {"text": "counselors over uh budget", "start": 9.559, "end": 14.48}, {"text": "decisions um do we have any regrets I see councelor", "start": 15.359, "end": 21.64}, {"text": "CH as a regret but is that yeah okay um any", "start": 21.96, "end": 28.76}, {"text": "Declarations of he interest see none great um just quickly", "start": 28.76, "end": 35.079}, {"text": "we're going to go to 4.1 Mr chair yeah sorry Mr chair I do wish to declare a", "start": 35.079, "end": 41.559}, {"text": "pecuniary interest okay it's counc n I'm right here there we go oh there we go I see", "start": 41.559, "end": 49.16}, {"text": "you there um I wanted to declare a pecuniary interest on matters related to the K Street Bia budget allocation my", "start": 49.16, "end": 56.559}, {"text": "company uh is a member of the K Street Bia and as such any 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"start": 108.799, "end": 115.68}, {"text": "amount uh to be provided um thank you for the details that you did provide in", "start": 115.68, "end": 122.92}, {"text": "uh on the blue paper uh in terms of our ability to increase that", "start": 122.92, "end": 129.319}, {"text": "amount I think part of my question was not just what do we have and what have we allocated but what are our options to", "start": 129.319, "end": 137.879}, {"text": "advance uh the Parkland uh um Reserve given the", "start": 137.879, "end": 144.08}, {"text": "magnitude of Parkland uh we will need uh through Grant just to clarify", "start": 144.08, "end": 151.4}, {"text": "the question from Council hasel is it increasing the amount in the capital project or in the Parkland Reserve", "start": 151.4, "end": 157.92}, {"text": "itself it would need we don't have a specific project because we do not have", "start": 157.92, "end": 163.84}, {"text": "a specific Target within uh the Midtown allocated yet but so I would 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264.199}, {"text": "strategic growth area um and so what I was trying to get at in my earlier", "start": 264.199, "end": 269.44}, {"text": "request Quest is are our only options then what you've just described is", "start": 269.44, "end": 274.52}, {"text": "carving out in capital a specific uh additional Parkland Reserve um for these", "start": 274.52, "end": 283}, {"text": "opportunities that would come up or is there another alternative which may be", "start": 283, "end": 288.12}, {"text": "tax stabilization I mean you're the finance Wizards um we need Parkland and", "start": 288.12, "end": 294.72}, {"text": "I want to find a way that we're not faced with well we we don't have we want", "start": 294.72, "end": 300.68}, {"text": "to buy five hectar we need $1 150 to $160 million", "start": 300.68, "end": 307.08}, {"text": "um we''re going to have to grow that that area much more over the next few", "start": 307.08, "end": 312.52}, {"text": "years that's what I'm trying to achieve how can you help me do you want to go", "start": 312.52, "end": 319.96}, {"text": "first through you uh chair Grant the Parkland Reserve as John said there's", "start": 319.96, "end": 325.639}, {"text": "specific criteria and so we can't grow it beyond what we're allowed to legislative", "start": 325.639, "end": 330.96}, {"text": "if opportunities come forward for land we understand the need for land we would bring to council funding options at that", "start": 330.96, "end": 337.479}, {"text": "time if there wasn't enough money in the reserve and the property was something", "start": 337.479, "end": 343.6}, {"text": "that felt should be required or acquired then we would bring forward a report to", "start": 343.6, "end": 348.759}, {"text": "council for that acquisition with a recommended funding source so it's your advice that we do", "start": 348.759, "end": 356.4}, {"text": "not have to set additional money aside every year and continue to grow a", "start": 356.4, "end": 361.56}, {"text": "separate Parks account beyond what we do in the Parkland Reserve is that what I'm", "start": 361.56, "end": 366.88}, {"text": "understanding and that we'll just figure out another funding option should we figure out land that we can", "start": 366.88, "end": 373.639}, {"text": "buy at this point in time that would be my recommendation as we go forward we we", "start": 373.639, "end": 379.039}, {"text": "will revisit that as we look at our long-term forecasting but I I think at", "start": 379.039, "end": 384.4}, {"text": "this point in time that would be my recommendation okay thank you through sorry I should have said through you", "start": 384.4, "end": 389.639}, {"text": "sure Grant so do we have any issues on the", "start": 389.639, "end": 396.8}, {"text": "report that we've", "start": 396.8, "end": 399.759}, {"text": "received well I got issues with it but I I'm prepared to move it okay then if we", "start": 401.96, "end": 407.759}, {"text": "can get the motion moved um that would be great so four point great okay all in", "start": 407.759, "end": 417.12}, {"text": "favor thank you so we'll move that forward and uh we will move to 5.1 now", "start": 417.12, "end": 425.319}, {"text": "as we move forward uh I think we have a quick report from our budget", "start": 425.319, "end": 433.4}, {"text": "team uh thank you chair Grant uh before budget committee uh dives into", "start": 434.44, "end": 439.639}, {"text": "deliberations I did want to provide a brief recap for the committee um as to where we stand now and how we got to our", "start": 439.639, "end": 445.68}, {"text": "current position of 4.82% uh as part of the overall increase to the tax levy so I just have a few", "start": 445.68, "end": 451.96}, {"text": "slides I thought I could share with committee to to help with that conversation so may if Trent or Ken can bring those", "start": 451.96, "end": 459.16}, {"text": "up all right so our just as a reminder uh we began this year's", "start": 471.28, "end": 476.919}, {"text": "oh we wait till we're on full screen", "start": 476.919, "end": 481.44}, {"text": "there we go all right so we began this year's process with a council endorsed mayal direction to staff to present a", "start": 499.24, "end": 506.56}, {"text": "budget with an overall increase of up to 4% to accommodate priorities from Council strategic plan and so this was", "start": 506.56, "end": 513.599}, {"text": "also based off of the Region's estimated budget at 3.6% and so the staff budget that we", "start": 513.599, "end": 519.36}, {"text": "prepared when we worked on this came in at a base of 3.73% and then from there we also", "start": 519.36, "end": 526.44}, {"text": "identified a number of requests and initiatives that supported Council strategic", "start": 526.44, "end": 531.56}, {"text": "priorities and these items total to 1.16 million which works out to 19 or", "start": 531.56, "end": 537}, {"text": "0.19% on the tax increase and that brings the total to the 3.92% um that you might remember from my", "start": 537, "end": 544.279}, {"text": "U my overview presentation back in October since that time there have been", "start": 544.279, "end": 550.76}, {"text": "a couple of changes one of them is from the region um so the region has updated their estimated budget uh their share", "start": 550.76, "end": 558.76}, {"text": "has increased from 1.36% to 2.26% of our", "start": 558.76, "end": 563.8}, {"text": "overall budget and that's based off of their increase going from 3.60% to 5 5.99% on their actual budget", "start": 563.8, "end": 572.6}, {"text": "so for the town's budget that works out to a 0.90% increase or 90 basis points so", "start": 572.6, "end": 580.04}, {"text": "when you add that to the 3.92% that we originally had as part of our staff overview we end up with that", "start": 580.04, "end": 586.12}, {"text": "4.82% figure that I mentioned at our last budget committee", "start": 586.12, "end": 591.24}, {"text": "meeting there's also been a couple of late adjustments that we have here at the town uh so the first is with respect", "start": 592.36, "end": 599.839}, {"text": "to the confidential staff report from last week's council meeting prepared by human resources on Labor", "start": 599.839, "end": 606.399}, {"text": "Relations so this increases the total by 05% and the second is for an increase to", "start": 606.399, "end": 614.12}, {"text": "the impact growth number that we've received the town's growth number has moved from 1.57% to", "start": 614.12, "end": 621.399}, {"text": "2.43% staff's recommendation is to defer this growth until next year 2026 given", "start": 621.399, "end": 627.44}, {"text": "the growth pressures that we're already forecasting for next year so as a result that doesn't change anything on this year's", "start": 627.44, "end": 634.04}, {"text": "budget so the 4.87 figure you see at the bottom of the screen is the starting", "start": 634.04, "end": 639.36}, {"text": "spot that we have in the budget spreadsheet calculator that we'd be happy to pull up for committee uh once the time comes today uh if it's helpful", "start": 639.36, "end": 646.32}, {"text": "to you in navigating through any deliberations or questions you might", "start": 646.32, "end": 651.44}, {"text": "have and I also wanted to point out a couple of other things um just in case", "start": 651.519, "end": 657.04}, {"text": "they're helpful to committee so as requested by the budget committee back at our June kickoff meeting we have", "start": 657.04, "end": 663.279}, {"text": "included any business cases that didn't make it into 2025 and were deferred into 2026 so the committee could consider", "start": 663.279, "end": 670.56}, {"text": "them and see what their impact is there are 18 of these business cases for $ 1.7", "start": 670.56, "end": 675.639}, {"text": "million which works out to. 28% on the total and then we've also included on", "start": 675.639, "end": 681.44}, {"text": "here and on the spreadsheet the Oakville Public Library request for 16 mile for 310,000 which represents 05%", "start": 681.44, "end": 689.839}, {"text": "uh to the overall tax levy increase so if all of those items were included by budget committee the total would move", "start": 689.839, "end": 696.24}, {"text": "from uh 4.87 to 5.20 uh that's just if they were all included just wanted to put that out", "start": 696.24, "end": 702.279}, {"text": "there uh for any interest and then I have a very simple", "start": 702.279, "end": 707.56}, {"text": "graph to show this this just demonstrates the uh the big blue bar is the base budget for", "start": 707.56, "end": 714.519}, {"text": "3.73 Council strategic priorities is the slightly lighter blue bar right above it", "start": 714.519, "end": 720.48}, {"text": "and then you can see that we're below the target that's which is the red line which is at 4% and then the region", "start": 720.48, "end": 726.279}, {"text": "changes have pushed us over that along with that slight light adjustment that I talked about a moment ago so again just", "start": 726.279, "end": 731.76}, {"text": "wanted to visualize this or help the committee visualize this uh as to where we started and where we are today as we", "start": 731.76, "end": 737.16}, {"text": "head into uh deliberations for recommendations to the mayor Mr chair that's all I had for you", "start": 737.16, "end": 743.36}, {"text": "this morning thank you um do you do you have a the the", "start": 743.36, "end": 749.639}, {"text": "spreadsheet that we've received um to put on screen for us yes we also have", "start": 749.639, "end": 755.76}, {"text": "that spreadsheet and we'd be happy to pull that up and then uh as we go through it if there's any changes or edits to it dalar can come to the podium", "start": 755.76, "end": 762.44}, {"text": "here at the middle and help us navigate through that thank you and when you put up that spreadsheet would you be able to", "start": 762.44, "end": 767.8}, {"text": "um put up uh what we believe will be happening with the", "start": 767.8, "end": 774.399}, {"text": "region uh so through you chair Grant uh so the region is currently sitting at", "start": 774.399, "end": 780.72}, {"text": "5.99% I believe and I I chatted with the region briefly yesterday I don't want to put words in their mouth but I believe", "start": 780.72, "end": 787.36}, {"text": "that the um the item that might be before them is to further increase the police budget which would move their", "start": 787.36, "end": 793.8}, {"text": "number from 5.99 to 6.2% um that is that's up to the region", "start": 793.8, "end": 799.88}, {"text": "and and that body I can tell this uh tell our Council that uh increasing to", "start": 799.88, "end": 805.6}, {"text": "that number would increase our number by eight basis points so um depending on which number you're looking at if we're", "start": 805.6, "end": 811.199}, {"text": "looking at 4.87 that would move us to about 4.95 give or take there's always some", "start": 811.199, "end": 816.639}, {"text": "rounding in there but I I think it would be helpful as we discuss the budget today that we look at that higher", "start": 816.639, "end": 825.12}, {"text": "number um and and just see what the for one of a better phrase worst case", "start": 825.12, "end": 831.079}, {"text": "scenario would be so if we can put that up on the screen as we go through this", "start": 831.079, "end": 836.72}, {"text": "if we can get Trent or Ken's help with that that would be great thank you and uh our first counselor to speak to this", "start": 836.72, "end": 843.399}, {"text": "is uh counselor Adams thanks very much for all the", "start": 843.399, "end": 848.88}, {"text": "information and the stepbystep um set of changes that we were we're all expecting", "start": 848.88, "end": 854.32}, {"text": "to see um and Council Grant has already asked my question about the um likely", "start": 854.32, "end": 860.04}, {"text": "change in the police budget at the region and um I support the the need to to show complete transparency around", "start": 860.04, "end": 867.44}, {"text": "that and show what that number would look like on our screen when we're um looking at this uh the other the only", "start": 867.44, "end": 872.839}, {"text": "other question I had for you was within the uh the 2025 uh business case um", "start": 872.839, "end": 879.24}, {"text": "materials are there positions there or um projects there that would generate", "start": 879.24, "end": 884.6}, {"text": "savings through efficiencies that um council could [Music]", "start": 884.6, "end": 890.8}, {"text": "consider so w would some of those projects uh within the 1.62 million", "start": 890.8, "end": 896.759}, {"text": "there uh would those uh in future years generate savings uh so through you chair", "start": 896.759, "end": 902.959}, {"text": "Grant um there is uh um a position actually and I'm not going to let me", "start": 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units in order to achieve that um so that we have a better understanding right now of the", "start": 1038.28, "end": 1044.6}, {"text": "lean processes we have in place how we can take advantage of asset management for examp example and looking at our", "start": 1044.6, "end": 1049.799}, {"text": "assets and doing those differently um and and many other types of programs so I think we have a better handle on how", "start": 1049.799, "end": 1056.679}, {"text": "we can get into those efficiencies so I do I would suggest to council that allow", "start": 1056.679, "end": 1063.16}, {"text": "us to get that work underway with the positions we've asked for in the in this budget in combination of last year um so", "start": 1063.16, "end": 1070.16}, {"text": "that I have a little more confidence that we yes can produce some savings over the next two years there is a fair", "start": 1070.16, "end": 1077.08}, {"text": "amount of work that is involved and take some time to actually identify it and then be able to actually achieve the", "start": 1077.08, "end": 1082.96}, {"text": "savings themselves okay and uh what would be the magnitude of those expected", "start": 1082.96, "end": 1089.64}, {"text": "savings um so we have had some preliminary discussions on the efficiency work that we expect to be", "start": 1089.64, "end": 1095.36}, {"text": "doing um I think that a a stretch goal for us I would suggest um is um a", "start": 1095.36, "end": 1101.88}, {"text": "600,000 over two years it allows us to perhaps not take half of it in the first", "start": 1101.88, "end": 1107.12}, {"text": "year um because we are still working through those changes but over the two-year time frame um we feel that we", "start": 1107.12, "end": 1114.2}, {"text": "can as a stretch goal look to achieving that either in actual cost savings or the other option which is a lot of the", "start": 1114.2, "end": 1120.919}, {"text": "savings we've had before is really a cost avoidance I understand that doesn't take it out of the base budget but it", "start": 1120.919, "end": 1126.799}, {"text": "limits the amount of increases we have going forward and that's fair um okay so your recommendation is not to", "start": 1126.799, "end": 1133.6}, {"text": "incorporate a savings efficiency number in this year's budget but to hold that into the base budget in a future year no", "start": 1133.6, "end": 1141.039}, {"text": "I I think actually you could uh incorporate um 600,000 uh in this budget um by", "start": 1141.039, "end": 1148.919}, {"text": "supplementing that with ta tax stabilization over the next two years in order for us to actually achieve those", "start": 1148.919, "end": 1154.24}, {"text": "Savings in the base budget so we could incorporate in 600,000 in Savings in this year and reduce that number by a", "start": 1154.24, "end": 1160.96}, {"text": "certain amount next year uh and phase it out by the the second year second year yes okay um thank you very much for that", "start": 1160.96, "end": 1169.159}, {"text": "um could we and then through you Mr chair could we incorporate a an extra", "start": 1169.159, "end": 1175}, {"text": "line in our spreadsheet um showing a a", "start": 1175, "end": 1181.44}, {"text": "savings uh three chair Grant so we can certainly do that I'm gonna actually ask delber to uh head to the um Center", "start": 1183.32, "end": 1189.12}, {"text": "Podium there because he can probably navigate that spreadsheet better um and then we can also update the uh the Region's number at the same time so you", "start": 1189.12, "end": 1195.52}, {"text": "can see what that impact is we just have to make sure the technology works for us first thank you very", "start": 1195.52, "end": 1202.36}, {"text": "much and I'm hoping the technology Works I'd like to have a uh a live reflection", "start": 1203.6, "end": 1210.039}, {"text": "of our discussion uh with the budget so if we can do that that' be", "start": 1210.039, "end": 1218.919}, {"text": "great and as we work towards seeing that on screen we'll move to our next speaker", "start": 1219.48, "end": 1225.88}, {"text": "which is councelor Giddings thank you through you chair um you", "start": 1225.88, "end": 1232.08}, {"text": "mentioned the additional assessment growth from impacct and it was on the on the spreadsheet that was up there", "start": 1232.08, "end": 1238.4}, {"text": "086 any projection of what we could anticipate seeing next year", "start": 1238.4, "end": 1245.72}, {"text": "as uh through you chair Grant if I could predict that I would uh be much to my", "start": 1248.24, "end": 1253.48}, {"text": "advantage as well um it's really difficult to determine what numbers we're going to get from empact uh and", "start": 1253.48, "end": 1259.36}, {"text": "when they're going to come online our staff do an excellent job of trying to get as many building permits over to", "start": 1259.36, "end": 1264.44}, {"text": "empac as possible um but it there is no linear relationship between when we get", "start": 1264.44, "end": 1270.279}, {"text": "permits finalized and when they show up on the role so I I don't have a better answer for you than that", "start": 1270.279, "end": 1276.4}, {"text": "sorry I appreciate that in terms of uh that point", "start": 1276.4, "end": 1281.72}, {"text": "86 the recommendation is still that it's better to hold that until next year even", "start": 1281.72, "end": 1288.679}, {"text": "though we don't know what an indicator of what's coming so through you chair Grant uh one", "start": 1288.679, "end": 1295.76}, {"text": "of the things we'd like to do as a good principle when we're looking at the growth we're receiving is trying to", "start": 1295.76, "end": 1301}, {"text": "match it up with our growth pressures um and so when we look ahead to next year's uh budget we have a number of growth", "start": 1301, "end": 1307.48}, {"text": "items that are coming in uh and so trying to match those two things as closely as possible um is is a good", "start": 1307.48, "end": 1314.12}, {"text": "principle to follow and that's why our recommendation would be to to quote unquote save it for next year thank you so it's fair to say our", "start": 1314.12, "end": 1320.4}, {"text": "challenges will continue beyond this year uh I would agree with that statement yes thank you Mr", "start": 1320.4, "end": 1328.4}, {"text": "chair thank you our next uh person is cancor [Music]", "start": 1328.4, "end": 1334.48}, {"text": "Longo thank you chair Grant uh I just wanted to kind of reinforce what councilor Adams mentioned uh with uh CE", "start": 1334.48, "end": 1343.52}, {"text": "closy regarding the kind of the efficiencies I support having positions", "start": 1343.52, "end": 1348.6}, {"text": "there to be able to look at you know across the lines of business how can we look at using technology you know the", "start": 1348.6, "end": 1355.24}, {"text": "buzzword these days is AI but are there ways of automating things are there ways of uh also looking at processes to be", "start": 1355.24, "end": 1361.679}, {"text": "more efficient because I think it sends a message to our residents that we are looking internally we are trying to uh", "start": 1361.679, "end": 1367.08}, {"text": "be more efficient in the way we deliver service um so I I definitely recommend", "start": 1367.08, "end": 1372.32}, {"text": "uh you know if there is a position in in the budget that uh that that we keep", "start": 1372.32, "end": 1377.72}, {"text": "those and that we put that 600,000 over a 2-year period thank", "start": 1377.72, "end": 1384.159}, {"text": "you and thank you and I believe our numbers are yes they're being published", "start": 1384.159, "end": 1390.919}, {"text": "Live on YouTube that's great all right uh councelor", "start": 1390.919, "end": 1396.559}, {"text": "Oma um thank you Mr chair just just I just want to be clear about the procedure that we're going through right", "start": 1396.559, "end": 1401.919}, {"text": "now so we're we're obviously talking about um discussing increase to the regional budget we're talking about some", "start": 1401.919, "end": 1409}, {"text": "of the issues my my Council colleagues has raised um are we going to go through that list of the extra 1.7 million that", "start": 1409, "end": 1415.72}, {"text": "Council had recommend how are we structuring this conversation right now where we're going to sort of how are we", "start": 1415.72, "end": 1421.2}, {"text": "going to package everything up into the recommendation to the mayor right now I I believe that the uh extra 1.7", "start": 1421.2, "end": 1428.279}, {"text": "million is going to be pushed forward as a package as a package unless there's", "start": 1428.279, "end": 1435}, {"text": "something you want to pull out um well no I know that would go to it too cuz I'm I'm between different meetings and", "start": 1435, "end": 1441.36}, {"text": "different places I don't see those things somewhere I'm wondering if staff has 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1479.88, "end": 1485.2}, {"text": "if Now's the Time or or what this this is your time let's go for it thank you so much um so uh let me just pull that", "start": 1485.2, "end": 1492.96}, {"text": "up one more time um so I put forward a motion I would like to put forward a", "start": 1492.96, "end": 1498.72}, {"text": "motion um to uh to deal with a a", "start": 1498.72, "end": 1504.039}, {"text": "construction uh temporary occupant Street occupancy permit in the Brony area that we're not quite sure how it's", "start": 1504.039, "end": 1510.039}, {"text": "going to unfold um and uh I I can send that out to council members right now", "start": 1510.039, "end": 1515.32}, {"text": "I'll just read it um briefly if the temporary Street occupancy permit for 85", "start": 1515.32, "end": 1520.48}, {"text": "Brony Road expires or fails that staff be directed to implement a temporary one-way", "start": 1520.48, "end": 1527.799}, {"text": "Southbound traffic configuration on Brony Road from Lakes Shore West to Marine Drive for a period of 24 months", "start": 1527.799, "end": 1534.32}, {"text": "beginning um on the date that if it happens until the 24mon period would", "start": 1534.32, "end": 1540.32}, {"text": "expire um to update the traffic bylaw to reflect the temporary one-way southbound traffic configuration on Bron from Lakes", "start": 1540.32, "end": 1546.6}, {"text": "Shore um that a soul Source contract be approved for the procurement of the equipment necessary to set up the oneway", "start": 1546.6, "end": 1552.36}, {"text": "street configuration in order to have the changes in place by again depending on and if the the expiry or fail failure", "start": 1552.36, "end": 1560.399}, {"text": "of that occupancy to be renewed and that funds in the amount of 70,000 be added to the road safety program budget for", "start": 1560.399, "end": 1567.76}, {"text": "temporary one-way conversion of Brony to Lakes Shore West Marine Drive um and and", "start": 1567.76, "end": 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could come out of stabilization I don't think it would be an operating budget issue um but I I I would leave", "start": 1649.52, "end": 1654.76}, {"text": "that to our finance staff to to tell us where best uh it would come from but I would put that forward to the committee", "start": 1654.76, "end": 1660.6}, {"text": "um for their consideration thank you Mr chair not a problem so would that be a motion it would be yes so if we could", "start": 1660.6, "end": 1668.24}, {"text": "get you to make that as a motion I I move that and I will I will uh um just", "start": 1668.24, "end": 1675.36}, {"text": "make sure that uh staff or that committee members have't in front of them right now I just read out I just sent that so I I I would move that", "start": 1675.36, "end": 1684.158}, {"text": "motion give me a second no problem thank", "start": 1687.48, "end": 1692.158}, {"text": "you okay so we are going to put this to a suggestion right now and we will vote", "start": 1696.399, "end": 1701.96}, {"text": "for at the end I'm at your and I have I I have have mayor Burton who", "start": 1701.96, "end": 1709.559}, {"text": "wants to respond to Mr chair I understand the urgency of", "start": 1709.559, "end": 1715.36}, {"text": "the matter and I support the matter um I I believe that some of what's in this uh", "start": 1715.36, "end": 1721.48}, {"text": "uh motion really belongs at a council meeting rather than a committee meeting and I would recommend that this motion", "start": 1721.48, "end": 1729.399}, {"text": "be brought to the next council meeting on December 16th and that the funding come from stabilization and as a result", "start": 1729.399, "end": 1735.84}, {"text": "it doesn't need to be considered here at the budget committee which is only one", "start": 1735.84, "end": 1741.519}, {"text": "piece of a continuing process so uh I think you on December 16th I believe as", "start": 1741.519, "end": 1749.2}, {"text": "our council meeting you might actually get your result faster if you go by that route yeah I I either way I was told by", "start": 1749.2, "end": 1756.279}, {"text": "staff that it should go through the budget process so I'm I'm happy to to to make sure that the that the proper", "start": 1756.279, "end": 1762.6}, {"text": "prions are in place however they come so if if if that's the proper procedure I happy to do that too i' maybe just look to the mayor or to whoever wants to tell", "start": 1762.6, "end": 1769.24}, {"text": "me that yep that's perfectly fine we can go with that so Mr chair I think it's it's perfectly fine the the use of the", "start": 1769.24, "end": 1775.919}, {"text": "stabilization fund is available to council throughout the year it's not tied to only the budget committee uh and", "start": 1775.919, "end": 1782.32}, {"text": "there were uh other matters uh that uh sound more like councel than budget", "start": 1782.32, "end": 1788.279}, {"text": "Committee in in the motion which I totally support I believe the counselor is happy with moving that forward to the", "start": 1788.279, "end": 1795.84}, {"text": "next council meeting then we can do it then so withdraw that motion then that that sounds great thank you very that is", "start": 1795.84, "end": 1801.12}, {"text": "absolutely wonderful and hopefully we will solve that issue for you the next council meeting thank you thank you", "start": 1801.12, "end": 1808.559}, {"text": "mayor thank you councilor Amir our next speaker is councelor", "start": 1808.559, "end": 1815.12}, {"text": "Elgar thank you very much through you chair um I just want to thank staff for", "start": 1815.96, "end": 1821.24}, {"text": "what they prepared for us is I think it's the most detailed report I've ever seen of how the tax dollars are spent uh", "start": 1821.24, "end": 1828.2}, {"text": "down to a a a more of a granular level however I'd like to ask can staff provide when we finish this a more", "start": 1828.2, "end": 1834.799}, {"text": "granular level related to snow clearing leaf pickup and also how much taxpayers", "start": 1834.799, "end": 1842.88}, {"text": "are sub are subsidizing the growth uh on on annual", "start": 1842.88, "end": 1849.72}, {"text": "basis uh so through you chair Grant so we can certainly um break out the snow", "start": 1852.84, "end": 1859.519}, {"text": "clearing and I believe you said leafing correct um programs um to provide more", "start": 1859.519, "end": 1866.519}, {"text": "detail on those the subsidization of growth is not a specific line in our", "start": 1866.519, "end": 1872.24}, {"text": "operating budget so that one would be uh we wouldn't be able to provide that but certainly on the other two we can", "start": 1872.24, "end": 1877.519}, {"text": "provide you more information so Jonathan how do we get to tell the people how", "start": 1877.519, "end": 1883.12}, {"text": "much there have have to subsidize growth which that is it's a a big number and", "start": 1883.12, "end": 1888.799}, {"text": "it's getting bigger this year and it's going to keep getting bigger based on where the province is going so how do we", "start": 1888.799, "end": 1894.76}, {"text": "get around how how do we get away from hiding it uh so through you chair Grant um one", "start": 1894.76, "end": 1903.279}, {"text": "of the struggles we have in commun communicating uh about those changes in legislation is that it's um it's lost", "start": 1903.279, "end": 1911.679}, {"text": "Revenue that we're not collecting uh we're not collecting as much as we would have otherwise before those changes came", "start": 1911.679, "end": 1917.44}, {"text": "in uh so it means that with less Revenue you have to then adjust the nature and", "start": 1917.44, "end": 1923.08}, {"text": "timing of your of your Capital expenditures and make decisions that way or use other sources um other Town", "start": 1923.08, "end": 1930.159}, {"text": "sources to do that and that would depend on the individual project that comes 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we do uh provide um to council is a summary spreadsheet of of what those", "start": 2029.919, "end": 2037.799}, {"text": "changes have been uh what re we've lost um so I think that's probably one of the", "start": 2037.799, "end": 2043.039}, {"text": "best tools we have on the communication front I I thank you for that but I hear", "start": 2043.039, "end": 2048.72}, {"text": "what you're saying and I realize our hands are tied but somehow we're missing uh the opportunity to educate the people", "start": 2048.72, "end": 2056.638}, {"text": "uh thinking that as as we grow our taxes should be going down and that's what start happening and it's happening more", "start": 2056.639, "end": 2062.398}, {"text": "and more and based on the numbers I see things are going to get a lot worse and the the town we we not a revenue", "start": 2062.399, "end": 2068.638}, {"text": "generator like it's the taxpayers money we are using it's the individuals with assessments and I don't know somehow", 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{"text": "probably ready for this question uh thank you for your question counselor", "start": 2123.8, "end": 2130.079}, {"text": "uh through you uh chair uh so the government relations uh", "start": 2130.079, "end": 2137.16}, {"text": "we had some research positions that were one permanent one temporary approved last year and they are really focused on", "start": 2137.16, "end": 2146.48}, {"text": "um making sure that proper research is being done for Council consideration", "start": 2146.48, "end": 2152.16}, {"text": "with uh any changes or recommendations we're making so we often hear the", "start": 2152.16, "end": 2157.2}, {"text": "question back what are other municipalities doing what is the latest kind of Direction on certain things uh", "start": 2157.2, "end": 2165.04}, {"text": "and that's what these two uh staff are really focused on and to give a bit of", "start": 2165.04, "end": 2170.119}, {"text": "an example some of it is uh how other munici ofies are responding to", 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{"text": "be able to move forward with their projects uh I think as the um uh", "start": 3340.52, "end": 3346.119}, {"text": "director of building Ralph Kaminsky had indicated and he is here I was waiting for him to come up to the behind you", "start": 3346.119, "end": 3352}, {"text": "he's hiding uh as he indicated we're looking at that that issue uh from also a", "start": 3352, "end": 3358.48}, {"text": "technology perspective there is a new set of software that's coming in that allows for a lot more transparency uh in", "start": 3358.48, "end": 3364.76}, {"text": "the processes that are there um so that not only is the building uh uh officials", "start": 3364.76, "end": 3371.359}, {"text": "able to flag things and move things forward but the applicants themselves can follow along and I will leave that", "start": 3371.359, "end": 3377.079}, {"text": "to Ralph uh through you chair Grant I don't want to spoil my big surprise we have a", "start": 3377.079, "end": 3383.599}, {"text": 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requests and a lot of needs um but it is an expertise and learning it today", "start": 3599.52, "end": 3605.559}, {"text": "does not make you an expert tomorrow um and it is fundamentally you know it is a", "start": 3605.559, "end": 3611.48}, {"text": "part of you know this Multicultural Community we live in they can not only help internally but externally that", "start": 3611.48, "end": 3618.96}, {"text": "advice so I'm I'm disappointed that we don't have the dedicated resource but thank you for your answers", "start": 3618.96, "end": 3627.4}, {"text": "okay thank you um next for first time speakers we have councelor MN but before", "start": 3631.4, "end": 3637.24}, {"text": "we do that I'm going to mention that um he was kind enough to provide a motion", "start": 3637.24, "end": 3644.44}, {"text": "to all of us and as we move forward I'm going to ask members of council to provide motions for things that they", "start": 3644.44, "end": 3652.24}, {"text": "wish to see going forward um and on we will vote on these motions one by", "start": 3652.24, "end": 3659.559}, {"text": "one uh that said uh I hope every seen", "start": 3659.559, "end": 3664.599}, {"text": "councelor MC's motion uh which he sent to a few of us and uh counselor please", "start": 3664.599, "end": 3671.4}, {"text": "go ahead thank you uh budget chair Mark so it should be top everyone's um inbox", "start": 3671.4, "end": 3677.359}, {"text": "there um and it comes from the November 14th uh budget agenda it was appendix", "start": 3677.359, "end": 3684.119}, {"text": "F okay okay it was was appendix F so it's related uh similar to what councilor mayor was talking about", "start": 3684.119, "end": 3690.16}, {"text": "there's some short-term issues we're having with lower Brony Road um but we also wanted to look at some longer term", "start": 3690.16, "end": 3697.52}, {"text": "fixes for that area and it's become apparent through our streetscaping project that this is a critical link not", "start": 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clear we need motions to look", "start": 3743.76, "end": 3751.559}, {"text": "at and we will vote for them or against any additions or subtractions and I'd", "start": 3751.559, "end": 3758.2}, {"text": "like to make it clear to our Tech staff that we want to have those motions uh as", "start": 3758.2, "end": 3764.319}, {"text": "we vote on them available for people to see online so is that clear I moved that motion I also wanted to note it's a", "start": 3764.319, "end": 3770.64}, {"text": "capital expense so my understanding is that wouldn't impact our spreadsheet up there that's increases or decreases yes", "start": 3770.64, "end": 3778}, {"text": "okay we got it thank you all right um next uh mayor Burton I believe I had you", "start": 3778, "end": 3784.48}, {"text": "nope okay then moving forward first time speakers councelor", "start": 3784.48, "end": 3791.039}, {"text": "do thank you um chair uh Grant mine is", "start": 3791.76, "end": 3797.2}, {"text": "not a motion it is more of a question that has come to light from some of the constituents and that is that given the", "start": 3797.2, "end": 3805.4}, {"text": "re uh check we received from The Province for 7 million are any of those funds", "start": 3805.4, "end": 3813.4}, {"text": "available to offset the increase in our budget or are they automatically", "start": 3813.4, "end": 3818.92}, {"text": "allocated to something um with the terms from The Province thank you and actually", "start": 3818.92, "end": 3826.599}, {"text": "counselor is Mayor Burton as a response um I'm going to uh I'm going to", "start": 3826.599, "end": 3833.799}, {"text": "ask for the CAO to supplement my answer but that money is for Capital the BFF", "start": 3833.799, "end": 3839.88}, {"text": "program they have a website on the Ontario uh ontario.ca uh explaining the BFF and", "start": 3839.88, "end": 3847.4}, {"text": "explaining that the money is available for capital projects that support uh", "start": 3847.4, "end": 3852.72}, {"text": "housing and uh the CAO can get into the details of the there's an application", "start": 3852.72, "end": 3858.44}, {"text": "involved uh there's a test involved and uh uh either anyway I'm going to I'm", "start": 3858.44, "end": 3864.48}, {"text": "going to offer it to the Cao to answer for those details because that's work she has to", "start": 3864.48, "end": 3869.76}, {"text": "do uh through you chair Grant um May Burton is correct it is for Capital dollars uh we actually need to report", "start": 3869.76, "end": 3876.76}, {"text": "back to Council on the plan of how we're going to spend those dollars um that will um uh meet the requirements of the", "start": 3876.76, "end": 3883.559}, {"text": "program so you'll see a report coming forward probably early in the new year it has to be early in the New Year in", "start": 3883.559, "end": 3889.48}, {"text": "order to uh be able to take advantage of the funding excellent as I say I think", "start": 3889.48, "end": 3894.96}, {"text": "several people are sort of grappling with the fact you just got 7 million why are you asking us for an increase in", "start": 3894.96, "end": 3902.16}, {"text": "funds so that answers that thank you thank you councelor dck I'm moving", "start": 3902.16, "end": 3908.359}, {"text": "to second time speakers councelor Adams okay uh thanks very much I", "start": 3908.359, "end": 3915.64}, {"text": "wondered if um it would be helpful for you if I gave you a motion to um start", "start": 3915.64, "end": 3921.839}, {"text": "with a recommendation for the whole thing so that you can then vote on it piece by peace everything is helpful", "start": 3921.839, "end": 3927.559}, {"text": "okay um uh to get us going then um I'd like to um move a motion that we", "start": 3927.559, "end": 3933.92}, {"text": "recommend to the mayor uh that we um move forward with the uh the staff draft", "start": 3933.92, "end": 3940.799}, {"text": "2025 budget uh including the 2025 2025 items that are included in the council", "start": 3940.799, "end": 3947.799}, {"text": "strategic priorities so that's 1.62 million um to leave out the Deferred", "start": 3947.799, "end": 3954.359}, {"text": "2026 items and if staff could scroll down on that page I believe there's a", "start": 3954.359, "end": 3960.68}, {"text": "library item which I'd like to", "start": 3960.68, "end": 3964.038}, {"text": "include and I don't yet see um another line there for um sa uh efficiency", "start": 3970.279, "end": 3978.88}, {"text": "Savings of 600,000", "start": 3978.88, "end": 3982.92}, {"text": "which would be a", "start": 3986.96, "end": 3989.52}, {"text": "minus now I I know that um so that's what I'd like to put forward um does", "start": 3994.16, "end": 4001.76}, {"text": "this also this has this been yeah this has been updated to include the higher police budget at the region I think", "start": 4001.76, "end": 4007.72}, {"text": "there the 6.2 I see on line six I think reflects that um I just saw 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"start": 4063.559, "end": 4069}, {"text": "uh setup which is uh potentially tax stabilization that needs fairly quickly", "start": 4069, "end": 4074.24}, {"text": "because the developer may not extend their permit while the traffic study that we have to do for the permanent um", "start": 4074.24, "end": 4081.799}, {"text": "oneway through counselor mn's motion is different that is something we will have", "start": 4081.799, "end": 4087.119}, {"text": "to look at it through a capital project for 135,000 we'll do a study we'll do it", "start": 4087.119, "end": 4092.839}, {"text": "through the streetcap program through the public that will take over six months so are you referring to the", "start": 4092.839, "end": 4098.56}, {"text": "temporary or are you referring to the the permanence traffic study I'm uh I'm trying to understand the relationship", "start": 4098.56, "end": 4104.56}, {"text": "between the two and uh sure they I know they're not exactly the same thing uh but I'm trying", 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easier to", "start": 4200.719, "end": 4206.56}, {"text": "reference the $770,000 the council mayor is asking for is temporary is one time", "start": 4206.56, "end": 4212.96}, {"text": "is meant to uh carry us forward for that temporary condition for $770,000 over a", "start": 4212.96, "end": 4219}, {"text": "2-year period is not a longlasting request that need to go into operating", "start": 4219, "end": 4224.32}, {"text": "um I'll say forever um and then while counselor MC's request is actually for", "start": 4224.32, "end": 4231.12}, {"text": "us to do a PR traffic study that we will come back through Council through the streetcape study to look at do we or do", "start": 4231.12, "end": 4238.52}, {"text": "we not want to make that road permanently one way and that is a separate request for um the piece but", "start": 4238.52, "end": 4246.44}, {"text": "going back to the mayor's uh proposal which I think is very fair that in", "start": 4246.44, "end": 4251.52}, {"text": "December um we could come to council with the uh a fairly simple explanation", "start": 4251.52, "end": 4257.6}, {"text": "on where is the best way to place that $70,000 it doesn't have to go through the budget process I believe that's", "start": 4257.6, "end": 4263.679}, {"text": "correct Jonathan yes okay thank you and and so what and", "start": 4263.679, "end": 4270.28}, {"text": "and so this 135,000 um could it be um Incorporated", "start": 4270.28, "end": 4275.719}, {"text": "in that report back so we get the entire thing all together through you uh", "start": 4275.719, "end": 4281.48}, {"text": "councelor Grant um chair Grant the 135,000 will be increase to the capital", "start": 4281.48, "end": 4286.64}, {"text": "budget so that would be a capital budget and budget request through the budget", "start": 4286.64, "end": 4292.12}, {"text": "committee the 7D could be dealt with temporarily through through just a", "start": 4292.12, "end": 4297.239}, {"text": "council resolution to spend it through tax stabilization so it is actually separate inste of combined my suggestion", "start": 4297.239, "end": 4303.52}, {"text": "okay and and could the funding the ultimate funding of this Capital item come through um what would be the source", "start": 4303.52, "end": 4310.48}, {"text": "of the funding of this Capital item could it be through um DC or some other", "start": 4310.48, "end": 4316.679}, {"text": "source what's the source of the funding for it uh it will be through the capital reserve through", "start": 4316.679, "end": 4324.719}, {"text": "you okay so I'm gonna um uh I'll leave that to I'm looking for a motion here", "start": 4325.56, "end": 4332.52}, {"text": "yeah so I've given you a motion I understand councelor MCN would like to add this one in as well sure but so I'll", "start": 4332.52, "end": 4338.719}, {"text": "give you that motion to add this one in point of order chair Grant could we just", "start": 4338.719, "end": 4344.239}, {"text": "clarify is the 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{"text": "motion so you got that so Mr chair I've given you a main motion to to begin with", "start": 4443.239, "end": 4448.92}, {"text": "which would allow other council members to uh bring forward amendments to change", "start": 4448.92, "end": 4454}, {"text": "so that you could have separate votes the motion that I'm giving you is the", "start": 4454, "end": 4459.12}, {"text": "the base budget including the 2025 um Council strategic priorities", "start": 4459.12, "end": 4465.56}, {"text": "including line 22 the Oakville Public Library increase the efficiencies shown on line 24 the capital budget item which", "start": 4465.56, "end": 4473.719}, {"text": "uh councelor MCN has just brought [Music] forward which needs to be written", "start": 4473.719, "end": 4480.36}, {"text": "in if we could do that please and uh so that's my motion if", "start": 4480.36, "end": 4486.56}, {"text": "others would like to draw in um or add or subtract uh then they would bring an", "start": 4486.56, 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"counselor getting has a hand up still so thank you Mr chair the I have I will", "start": 4584.159, "end": 4592.36}, {"text": "be supplying you with two motions could I request that we have a brief break for those of us that are working on motions", "start": 4592.36, "end": 4598.8}, {"text": "to get in the format that you have requested so we can get those on the floor certainly um before we do that", "start": 4598.8, "end": 4605.88}, {"text": "though does anybody much like councelor Elgar have questions about anything if I", "start": 4605.88, "end": 4614}, {"text": "could add still steal the floor here I wanted to add to counselor elgar's motion uh I", "start": 4614, "end": 4621.8}, {"text": "appreciate the fact that residents ask a lot of questions and where the money goes and what various things cost", "start": 4621.8, "end": 4628.88}, {"text": "uh I wanted to add the other side of that you based on the phone calls we get", "start": 4628.88, "end": 4634.8}, {"text": "the discussions we have and social media apparently the reason for the growth", "start": 4634.8, "end": 4641.12}, {"text": "that we have is strictly a tax grab I know we've Prov provided uh lot of", "start": 4641.12, "end": 4646.96}, {"text": "information over the past years in terms of how we come up with the amounts the effects of the school board of the", "start": 4646.96, "end": 4653.92}, {"text": "region and everything else could we include that factual information uh as part of councelor", "start": 4653.92, "end": 4660.52}, {"text": "Elders request just so we can uh provide", "start": 4660.52, "end": 4665.96}, {"text": "residents with good good", "start": 4665.96, "end": 4669.84}, {"text": "data we can through you chair Grant we can certainly include that as well as well great thank", "start": 4671.159, "end": 4678.159}, {"text": "you okay uh we're going to take a break then I'm going to give you 12 minutes to", "start": 4679.76, "end": 4685}, {"text": "11 o'clock sorry oh counselor how it feel thank you through you chair Grant", "start": 4685, "end": 4692.32}, {"text": "um uh so I support a Break um and I believe um councelor Giddings has um", "start": 4692.32, "end": 4698.12}, {"text": "maybe it would help prior to the break for him just to speak to the two items that uh he would like to put on the", "start": 4698.12, "end": 4704.84}, {"text": "floor um so that there's some consideration and I would also ask that", "start": 4704.84, "end": 4710.08}, {"text": "um I think we need greater than 12 minutes just to think through a couple of these additional items um and my last", "start": 4710.08, "end": 4717.199}, {"text": "uh uh point for clarity is um so I'm not sure why we're calling it efficiencies", "start": 4717.199, "end": 4723.679}, {"text": "but 600,000 was over a two-year period was that correct so would it be um uh so", "start": 4723.679, "end": 4732.44}, {"text": "would I have to so would we have to defeat the 600,000 or would a friendly", "start": 4732.44, "end": 4737.6}, {"text": "Amendment uh be considered to book only 300,000 which um I still have", "start": 4737.6, "end": 4744.44}, {"text": "reservations about but at least it is for this coming year not uh not", "start": 4744.44, "end": 4750.36}, {"text": "anticipating two years out uh versus anticipating possibly just one year", "start": 4750.36, "end": 4757.92}, {"text": "out uh through you chair Grant if I can just deal with the full amount of the 600,000 I had recommend a 600,000 over", "start": 4757.92, "end": 4765.239}, {"text": "two years because um I cannot with", "start": 4765.239, "end": 4770.32}, {"text": "confidence say that I can equally split it between the two years because I I think the work that we need to do is", "start": 4770.32, "end": 4775.88}, {"text": "going to spend a fair amount of time the first year on some of those projects uh which will won't actually be achieved or", "start": 4775.88, "end": 4781.8}, {"text": "realized until the second year um so you may in 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taxpayers are are saying you know in a tax in a tax in a election year all of a", "start": 4883.4, "end": 4890.679}, {"text": "sudden everybody wants low taxes to make sure they look good going into the following term like that's a it's a bit", "start": 4890.679, "end": 4897.8}, {"text": "of a cloud that I don't want us to be labeled with how do we avoid that uh", "start": 4897.8, "end": 4903.719}, {"text": "through you chair Grant just to clarify by putting it in this way the", "start": 4903.719, "end": 4909.48}, {"text": "the savings on the tax levy are actually achieved in the 2025 budget so we would", "start": 4909.48, "end": 4915.36}, {"text": "be putting 600,000 in tax stabilization in as a placeholder for those", "start": 4915.36, "end": 4921}, {"text": "efficiencies that are going to be achieved over two years as the efficiencies are", "start": 4921, "end": 4926.36}, {"text": "achieved the the tax civilization will be removed but the actual effect of this", "start": 4926.36, 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and request to include those with accessibility", "start": 4975.6, "end": 4982.08}, {"text": "challenges and I'll working on those now thank you all right um I did reach out", "start": 4982.08, "end": 4989.28}, {"text": "to every member of this committee yesterday to ask for any input you had", "start": 4989.28, "end": 4996.48}, {"text": "so I'm surprised that you all feel like you need more time but we will now move", "start": 4996.48, "end": 5002.4}, {"text": "this to I guess 11 :30 for uh when we", "start": 5002.4, "end": 5007.56}, {"text": "return and that will give you time to consider things I asked you to consider yesterday thank you very", "start": 5007.56, "end": 5015.84}, {"text": "much welcome back everybody um before we get into individual motions I just want", "start": 5020.679, "end": 5027.679}, {"text": "to go back and make sure that we get comments from members of our", "start": 5027.679, "end": 5033.32}, {"text": "Council and and I believe we've got councelor Giddings asking questions", "start": 5033.32, "end": 5043.44}, {"text": "first thank you chair the uh everyone has the Motions I", "start": 5045.88, "end": 5052}, {"text": "believe we do and we're going to be looking at those and voting on those after comments well I'm good then I can", "start": 5052, "end": 5058.36}, {"text": "wait for for those to come up councelor has a theal", "start": 5058.36, "end": 5065.04}, {"text": "uh thank you through your chair Grant um I understand we might have some of that additional information on uh", "start": 5065.159, "end": 5072.32}, {"text": "efficiencies uh", "start": 5072.32, "end": 5075.678}, {"text": "[Music] projects I through you chair uh yes", "start": 5077.86, "end": 5083.08}, {"text": "thank you for that additional time uh so I had talked about uh some green belt", "start": 5083.08, "end": 5089.4}, {"text": "training uh that we do those are staff that are trained in the Departments under under our larger um continuous", "start": 5089.4, "end": 5096.76}, {"text": "Improvement program that's run corporately so the list of 10 includes", "start": 5096.76, "end": 5102.199}, {"text": "uh the community activation Grant process uh and the community investment", "start": 5102.199, "end": 5107.44}, {"text": "strategy uh and online service standards and qualification criteria uh there are two separate", "start": 5107.44, "end": 5114.08}, {"text": "programs related to the on cross and offboarding one is the employee life cycle program uh and the other is the", "start": 5114.08, "end": 5122.199}, {"text": "corporate training uh program oh sorry there's three as well as the", "start": 5122.199, "end": 5127.4}, {"text": "its application access so there's three components to that on and offboarding", "start": 5127.4, "end": 5133.32}, {"text": "and that one is actually um a project that we are coordinating corporately", "start": 5133.32, "end": 5138.4}, {"text": "because it does hit every Department across the organization uh clerks is looking at", "start": 5138.4, "end": 5145.239}, {"text": "their in-house printing processes and Communications uh a bylaw management", "start": 5145.239, "end": 5150.76}, {"text": "process as well in clerks we also have the e plan experience and improvements", "start": 5150.76, "end": 5157}, {"text": "uh commissioner Kaminsky was talking about that um we have the Road Corridor", "start": 5157, "end": 5164.92}, {"text": "uh process and uh online service uh component to that and then I had talked", "start": 5164.92, "end": 5171.52}, {"text": "about the government relations research function earlier being a new function within the organization we are looking", "start": 5171.52, "end": 5177.4}, {"text": "at um a process for how departments are able to access that and how it's prioritized going forward so those are", "start": 5177.4, "end": 5184.84}, {"text": "examples of the 10 Green Belt um and in addition we still have ongoing", "start": 5184.84, "end": 5191.199}, {"text": "implementation I mentioned earlier associated with the procurement uh lean review that has been", "start": 5191.199, "end": 5198.8}, {"text": "done as well as uh business continuity planning so my only followup to all this", "start": 5198.88, "end": 5205.88}, {"text": "then is um will it maintain or will these initiatives have a priority of", "start": 5205.88, "end": 5212.159}, {"text": "maintaining or enhancing our service levels um through the project so I would say", "start": 5212.159, "end": 5218.679}, {"text": "our goal is always to go in to either maintain or improve our service levels", "start": 5218.679, "end": 5225.159}, {"text": "uh and this is a way to try and allow for either a faster process or um a um a", "start": 5225.159, "end": 5233.88}, {"text": "reduced number of steps so that we can take on more volume so the goal is to", "start": 5233.88, "end": 5239.239}, {"text": "maintain or improve um and we'll um uh uh I'm", "start": 5239.239, "end": 5244.679}, {"text": "assuming we will get reported out to us over the course of the next uh two years", "start": 5244.679, "end": 5251.44}, {"text": "uh the uh measurables around how we are doing on these projects yes you will not", "start": 5251.44, "end": 5257.88}, {"text": "only on these ones but as uh CEO chy mentioned we are gathering efficiencies", "start": 5257.88, "end": 5263.84}, {"text": "and savings elsewhere we just haven't been as good at tracking that so we will be looking to track those as well okay", "start": 5263.84, "end": 5271.04}, {"text": "and my final followup is so in term terms of things like green infrastructure which is pressing and", "start": 5271.04, "end": 5278.08}, {"text": "some of these other items that are more pressing um they're not part of the continuous Improvement in the", "start": 5278.08, "end": 5283.639}, {"text": "efficiencies but they are part of the support mechanisms or sorry what business strategic business advisers or", "start": 5283.639, "end": 5290.56}, {"text": "business support is going to ensure our deliverables in 2025 yes yes that that's not part of the", "start": 5290.56, "end": 5297.28}, {"text": "continuous Improvement thank you for the additional information I appreciate it thank you uh Council", "start": 5297.28, "end": 5306.118}, {"text": "Adams thanks very much I just so I note that on our spreadsheet we've got line items 25 and 26 for the transit Caravan", "start": 5307.48, "end": 5314.76}, {"text": "and the Heritage Grant programs I'm happy to incorporate those in my um motion uh for you if that is helpful in", "start": 5314.76, "end": 5321.639}, {"text": "terms of dealing with the procedure and um could I speak to the U the item now", "start": 5321.639, "end": 5327.639}, {"text": "or are there any other items that are meant to why don't we get questions through", "start": 5327.639, "end": 5332.92}, {"text": "first and then we'll start disc discing excellent okay items I wait for that thank you uh counc", "start": 5332.92, "end": 5339.239}, {"text": "alar thank you through you chair um I thankks staff for all the work they've done on this budget and the", "start": 5339.239, "end": 5345.36}, {"text": "clarification on the 600,000 and in fact when I previously said it would impact", "start": 5345.36, "end": 5350.48}, {"text": "on 2026 budget uh in fact it will not if if we do not see the savings it would be", "start": 5350.48, "end": 5356.639}, {"text": "2027 before that that would show up correct on the taxation", "start": 5356.639, "end": 5361.719}, {"text": "budget uh that's correct if we're on successful in finding those either through direct savings or cost avoidance", "start": 5361.719, "end": 5368.92}, {"text": "it would show up in 27 I thank you very much for the for the clarification on this all the discussion on it and uh I", "start": 5368.92, "end": 5377.08}, {"text": "look forward to getting more information on it and I support uh 25 and 26 the transit care and the Heritage growth", "start": 5377.08, "end": 5384.44}, {"text": "program also so I think hopefully this will move forward godp speed thank", "start": 5384.44, "end": 5390.96}, {"text": "you no worries okay so we we will now move forward again in 5.1 uh to look at", "start": 5390.96, "end": 5398.56}, {"text": "the different motions that are coming forward I believe our first motion and hopefully we can get this on", "start": 5398.56, "end": 5406.04}, {"text": "screen from our tech department is from uh councelor mcnees", "start": 5406.04, "end": 5413.44}, {"text": "there we go um counc MCN do you want to speak to", "start": 5428.08, "end": 5433.88}, {"text": "this uh believe I covered it earlier but I you did but nevertheless we want more", "start": 5434.6, "end": 5441.639}, {"text": "happy to discuss anything further and um thank you councelor Adams for clarifying A few things on it so that um we're all", "start": 5441.639, "end": 5448.28}, {"text": "on the same page but um we just think it would be a lost opportunity if we didn't", "start": 5448.28, "end": 5453.48}, {"text": "include it while our streetscaping work is already taking place and uh another", "start": 5453.48, "end": 5459.119}, {"text": "possibility of this is as development is happening which it currently is uh funds become available from the developer to", "start": 5459.119, "end": 5465.6}, {"text": "do the street scaping and if it can be done in a consistent way to the standard of the whole street scaping plan that's", "start": 5465.6, "end": 5472.4}, {"text": "beneficial and uh that's what this motion would do thank", "start": 5472.4, "end": 5478.76}, {"text": "you all right um so as we're voting on these individually uh I will ask then seeing", "start": 5482.04, "end": 5489.52}, {"text": "how this is properly moved uh all in favor sorry you have", "start": 5489.52, "end": 5496.92}, {"text": "a sorry I thought it was I thought our staff already had drafted a a motion", "start": 5496.92, "end": 5502.199}, {"text": "that incorporated the effects of this I'm not sure if it included the EXA exact words um I just want to make sure", "start": 5502.199, "end": 5508.159}, {"text": "that we've got it all together can I ask May no", "start": 5508.159, "end": 5515.639}, {"text": "Burton maybe someday yeah um uh Mr chair", "start": 5515.639, "end": 5520.84}, {"text": "I sense that uh we are at a point of consensus and voting on individual items", "start": 5520.84, "end": 5526.8}, {"text": "M might not be necessary um uh is it the will of the", "start": 5526.8, "end": 5531.88}, {"text": "committee to um to vote on the main motion um given that the Mover of the", "start": 5531.88, "end": 5537.96}, {"text": "main motion has incorporated everybody's suggestions well we can take a straw", "start": 5537.96, "end": 5543.08}, {"text": "poll um does anyone object that would be the way you check", "start": 5543.08, "end": 5549.56}, {"text": "yes and everybody seems to be okay um can we just look through the different", "start": 5549.56, "end": 5554.84}, {"text": "motions perhaps they're on the if you if you go to the spreadsheet you see them", "start": 5554.84, "end": 5561.639}, {"text": "all and if every member of council is okay with this then we can move the entirety of these uh as moved by", "start": 5562.239, "end": 5570.4}, {"text": "councelor Adams does anybody wish to speak to", "start": 5570.4, "end": 5576.88}, {"text": "this I was hoping to speak to it please go ahead for objections so well okay um", "start": 5576.88, "end": 5584.4}, {"text": "thank you very much so first of all uh I want to thank you uh chair grant for your work uh over the last um month and", "start": 5584.4, "end": 5592.04}, {"text": "a half or so uh it's much appreciated uh it's I know you've done a bunch of other", "start": 5592.04, "end": 5597.44}, {"text": "things Beyond uh what we see in the committee uh and so I think we should recognize that extra effort uh so thank", "start": 5597.44, "end": 5604.36}, {"text": "you very much for that um the other uh things I wanted to say is um despite the", "start": 5604.36, "end": 5609.56}, {"text": "larger than um uh what we all might hope for in terms of uh overall tax increase", "start": 5609.56, "end": 5615.239}, {"text": "I think it's a responsible way of eating the um the impacts of inflation that we've all been feeling for a number of", "start": 5615.239, "end": 5621.44}, {"text": "years uh and and it'll take us probably another year or so to finish eating all", "start": 5621.44, "end": 5627.36}, {"text": "the inflationary impacts that we've um seen over the last year or two uh and", "start": 5627.36, "end": 5632.639}, {"text": "second the uh while we're eating these inflationary impacts we're maintaining our services", "start": 5632.639, "end": 5638.48}, {"text": "and and um enhancing a few of them along the way as we see in this budget um and", "start": 5638.48, "end": 5643.8}, {"text": "finally uh despite these changes and the inflationary impacts we're seeing we're still going to be significantly lower", "start": 5643.8, "end": 5650.6}, {"text": "than all of our neighboring municipalities uh Milton Burlington msaga and that's a good news story for", "start": 5650.6, "end": 5657.92}, {"text": "our residents uh and they should take some soless in the fact that we've done uh what we've done so", "start": 5657.92, "end": 5664.239}, {"text": "thank you very much again for your service and your effort uh we appreciate it thank you um councel how it feel", "start": 5664.239, "end": 5671.96}, {"text": "thank you through you chair Grant um so I'll support uh the motion on the floor", "start": 5671.96, "end": 5677.719}, {"text": "I do want to thank um my colleagues um and in particular around the Caravan um", "start": 5677.719, "end": 5682.96}, {"text": "motion that uh counselor Giddings has put forward and the Heritage I think their uh their investments in things", "start": 5682.96, "end": 5690.239}, {"text": "that we take uh quite seriously around enabling people to have uh joy in their", "start": 5690.239, "end": 5695.48}, {"text": "life and to get around and their need and um our respect for Heritage in the town I also think that the the efforts", "start": 5695.48, "end": 5703.88}, {"text": "uh by uh Bronte our Bronte team um are are are really essential to getting it", "start": 5703.88, "end": 5710.92}, {"text": "right um uh through what will be a difficult construction period um I want", "start": 5710.92, "end": 5716.88}, {"text": "to express some gratitude to uh to the fire chief for taking some time and", "start": 5716.88, "end": 5722.199}, {"text": "helping me understand the eight firefighters and the importance um and the response times in the north um uh", "start": 5722.199, "end": 5729.719}, {"text": "and how that will be beneficial and some of the assurances we've heard today around really important Services um I", "start": 5729.719, "end": 5738.679}, {"text": "remain very deeply concerned about how we approach the acquisition of Parkland", "start": 5738.679, "end": 5744.28}, {"text": "I take some Assurance from the mayor that there are ways that we can acquire", "start": 5744.28, "end": 5750.04}, {"text": "um uh access to dollars that uh can address the need as well as uh I know", "start": 5750.04, "end": 5755.8}, {"text": "that the our commissioner and our director of parks have uh an interest in in trying to find a way forward uh to", "start": 5755.8, "end": 5763.88}, {"text": "secure uh in the Strategic growth uh nodes uh essential Green Space so I will", "start": 5763.88, "end": 5770.639}, {"text": "support uh the motion on the floor and hope um when the mayor's budget comes back that he will take some of my other", "start": 5770.639, "end": 5776.719}, {"text": "earlier comments to heart as well around the importance of equity and inclusion and and uh and in particular the parks", "start": 5776.719, "end": 5784.6}, {"text": "thank you thank you very much and for my part", "start": 5784.6, "end": 5790.239}, {"text": "I would like to thank staff and uh the patience of members of council uh", "start": 5790.239, "end": 5796.6}, {"text": "certainly working on a budget of this size is not in my wheelhouse so I I appreciate the fact that everybody's", "start": 5796.6, "end": 5802.92}, {"text": "been forthright and honest in in how they want to approach this um again it's", "start": 5802.92, "end": 5808.639}, {"text": "been a interesting process so I'm I'm glad that we are", "start": 5808.639, "end": 5814.04}, {"text": "in agreement to what we've achieved today um so at that point now I guess we", "start": 5814.04, "end": 5821.56}, {"text": "shall vote all in favor of councelor Adams motion and that", "start": 5821.56, "end": 5827.8}, {"text": "carries and I will point out that next Thursday uh the mayor will present uh", "start": 5827.8, "end": 5833.48}, {"text": "this budget and uh the two following Thursdays after that we'll have a chance to discuss and uh acknowledge this so", "start": 5833.48, "end": 5841.08}, {"text": "thank you very much and I believe we are we are going to move", "start": 5841.08, "end": 5847.48}, {"text": "to 5.2 uh that responses from staff and requests of the budget committee are", "start": 5847.48, "end": 5854.719}, {"text": "received we have a motion from councelor Elgar great all in favor that is carried", "start": 5854.719, "end": 5861.32}, {"text": "uh we have no confidential discussion items so now we are actually done thank", "start": 5861.32, "end": 5866.84}, {"text": "you very much everybody before lunch", "start": 5866.84, "end": 5872.4}]