[{"text": "so everybody's good to go give us one moment Julia", "start": 0.12, "end": 8.358}, {"text": "y all right Julia we're ready to go when you are", "start": 15.72, "end": 21.16}, {"text": "marvelous we'll just make sure that only our members are on video right now", "start": 21.16, "end": 26.84}, {"text": "please", "start": 26.84, "end": 29.84}, {"text": "good morning my name is Julia R I am the chair of the trauma preservation board", "start": 33.92, "end": 40.6}, {"text": "we have quum so I'm now calling meeting 25 to order welcome everyone today's", "start": 40.6, "end": 46.559}, {"text": "meeting is being held by video conference and is also being live streamed online at", "start": 46.559, "end": 52.92}, {"text": "youtube.com Toronto City Council live although we me may be meeting in", "start": 52.92, "end": 58.12}, {"text": "different locations today the preservation board would like to acknowledge that the land we are meeting", "start": 58.12, "end": 63.16}, {"text": "on is the traditional territory of many nations including the missas of the credit the anes naab the Chipawa the", "start": 63.16, "end": 70.92}, {"text": "honi and the wendat peoples and is now home to many diverse First Nations", "start": 70.92, "end": 76.52}, {"text": "innuit and matey people we also acknowledge that Toronto is covered by treaty 13 with the Miss sagas of the", "start": 76.52, "end": 83.92}, {"text": "credit if you are registered to speak today um please listen for me to call your name I will call speak speakers in", "start": 83.92, "end": 90.4}, {"text": "the order they appear on the list the list of speakers can be viewed online by visiting Toronto preservation board at", "start": 90.4, "end": 98.439}, {"text": "toronto.ca counil and clicking the speakers box for today's meeting members", "start": 98.439, "end": 104.04}, {"text": "the city clerk has provided all agenda materials on toronto.ca counil and as a reminder", "start": 104.04, "end": 110.719}, {"text": "please submit and approve any motions by email staff are available at", "start": 110.719, "end": 117.56}, {"text": "htpb toronto.ca to help with motions at this time are there any Declarations of", "start": 117.56, "end": 124.68}, {"text": "Interest under the municipal conflict of interest act if you do have an interest please raise your hand or unmute your", "start": 124.68, "end": 131.16}, {"text": "mic and indicate the item number and the nature of your", "start": 131.16, "end": 136.48}, {"text": "interest seeing none we will proceed may I please have a motion to confirm the", "start": 137.92, "end": 143.319}, {"text": "minutes from our meeting on November 7th", "start": 143.319, "end": 147.84}, {"text": "2024 all move those minutes all those in", "start": 148.599, "end": 153.879}, {"text": "favor please raise your hand Mitchell oh fantastic motion", "start": 154.4, "end": 161.92}, {"text": "carries so now we'll proceed to the agenda review the first item is PB", "start": 162.36, "end": 168.8}, {"text": "25.1 358 to 360 duffen Street notice of intention to designate a property under", "start": 168.8, "end": 175.519}, {"text": "part four section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act there's a presentation from City Planning staff available if the", "start": 175.519, "end": 181.72}, {"text": "board would like to hear this item and we also have a speaker on this item is", "start": 181.72, "end": 187.04}, {"text": "that correct Tanya yes so I will", "start": 187.04, "end": 193.76}, {"text": "nope we do not have a speaker on this item my AP pardon me we do Julia we do", "start": 193.76, "end": 200.239}, {"text": "okay yeah so I will hold the item the next is PB 25 two 94 courtly", "start": 200.239, "end": 212.159}, {"text": "Boulevard notice of intention to designate uh property under part four section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act", "start": 212.159, "end": 218.72}, {"text": "there's a presentation from City Planning from Heritage planning staff available if the board would like to", "start": 218.72, "end": 223.76}, {"text": "hear it would anybody like to hold this item Jeff you'd like to hold the", "start": 223.76, "end": 230.4}, {"text": "item yes okay so the item is", "start": 230.4, "end": 234.92}, {"text": "held the next on the list there's prob about a dozen um you're on there I'm on", "start": 235.92, "end": 243.28}, {"text": "there my neighbor", "start": 243.28, "end": 247.28}, {"text": "on Aran could you turn your camera off please thank", "start": 248.68, "end": 253.799}, {"text": "you moving along now item PB", "start": 254.04, "end": 259.079}, {"text": "25.3 53 Strawn Avenue inclusion on the Heritage register there's a presentation", "start": 259.079, "end": 265.12}, {"text": "from Heritage planning staff if the board would like to hear it would anybody like to hold this", "start": 265.12, "end": 271.719}, {"text": "item seeing not we have a report before us with recommendations from City staff", "start": 272.24, "end": 277.919}, {"text": "would anybody care to move the recommendation my my apologies Madam chair this is Adam when I'd like to hold", "start": 277.919, "end": 283.479}, {"text": "uh 25.3", "start": 283.479, "end": 287.68}, {"text": "okay moving along the next item is PB", "start": 290.84, "end": 297.96}, {"text": "25.4 17 47 1751 1759 1763 1767 1771 1773", "start": 297.96, "end": 307.919}, {"text": "and 1775 bab Avenue inclusion on the Heritage", "start": 307.919, "end": 313.08}, {"text": "register there is a Heritage planning staff report available if the board would like to hear it um this T this", "start": 313.08, "end": 321.88}, {"text": "does this contain a confidential attachment no I think we have a little", "start": 321.88, "end": 328.319}, {"text": "moment sorry about that it's okay it's okay we're all good um it's the end of", "start": 328.319, "end": 335.24}, {"text": "November glitches um which we all have would anybody like to hold this item", "start": 335.24, "end": 341.44}, {"text": "Jeff would like to hold the item moving", "start": 341.44, "end": 348.319}, {"text": "along DB 25.5 2102 lawence Avenue East alterations to", "start": 348.319, "end": 355.56}, {"text": "a designated Heritage Property and demolition of a building under under section 33 and 34 of the Ontario", "start": 355.56, "end": 362.199}, {"text": "Heritage act and authority to enter into a Heritage easement agreement there's a planning uh there's a presentation from", "start": 362.199, "end": 368.039}, {"text": "Heritage planning staff available um Matthew do you want to hold this", "start": 368.039, "end": 374.759}, {"text": "item yes please okay and so held moving along to PB", "start": 375.4, "end": 383.4}, {"text": "25.6 the designation of the tagon and babby Point Heritage conservation under", "start": 383.4, "end": 390.16}, {"text": "part five of the Ontario Heritage act there are public speakers registered so I will hold this item the next is PB", "start": 390.16, "end": 397.919}, {"text": "25.7 the designation of the West Queen West Heritage Conservation District plan under part five of the Ontario Heritage", "start": 397.919, "end": 404.72}, {"text": "act again we have public speakers so I will hold this item PB 25.8 the West Phase 2 Heritage", "start": 404.72, "end": 414.28}, {"text": "Conservation District study um there're public speakers on this item so I will hold", "start": 414.28, "end": 420.28}, {"text": "and then finally PB 25.9 2451 and 2489 bayw Avenue a", "start": 420.28, "end": 428.08}, {"text": "proposed amendment to the designating bylaw under part four section 30.1 of the Ontario Heritage act there's a", "start": 428.08, "end": 434.919}, {"text": "presentation from Heritage planning staff available if the board would like to hear the presentation would anybody", "start": 434.919, "end": 440.919}, {"text": "like to hold this item", "start": 440.919, "end": 446.56}, {"text": "Alex all right having moved through the agenda review let's take it from the top moving up to", "start": 447.84, "end": 455.44}, {"text": "PB uh 25.1 35 358 to 360", "start": 455.44, "end": 461.759}, {"text": "deine and we have", "start": 461.759, "end": 465.759}, {"text": "Liz good morning good morning chair everyone can you hear me okay", "start": 472.199, "end": 481.12}, {"text": "excellent I'm Liz McFarland a senior Heritage planner at city of Toronto and I'm presenting on the first item today", "start": 481.599, "end": 488}, {"text": "it's PB 25.1 358 to 360 duffen Street notice of", "start": 488, "end": 493.879}, {"text": "intention to designate a property under part four section 29 of the Ontario", "start": 493.879, "end": 499.039}, {"text": "Heritage act slide please thank you the site we're looking", "start": 499.039, "end": 506.4}, {"text": "at here is defined by the gold shading uh um prizes an industrial complex", "start": 506.4, "end": 512.36}, {"text": "located along the west side of duffen Street just south of Queen Street West and extends Westward from duffrin", "start": 512.36, "end": 518.719}, {"text": "um between Milky Way Lane to the north and Melbourne Avenue to the South the", "start": 518.719, "end": 523.959}, {"text": "site is directly adjacent to the Parkdale Main Street Heritage Conservation District to the north and", "start": 523.959, "end": 529.12}, {"text": "to the listed residential Terrace properties at 1 to7 Melbourne uh place", "start": 529.12, "end": 534.48}, {"text": "to the South the built form and ownership uh across this site has a evolved over the past 140 years with the", "start": 534.48, "end": 542.48}, {"text": "site ceasing to function as a cohesive industrial complex heavy industrial complex in 1907 and that's following the", "start": 542.48, "end": 549.839}, {"text": "departure of the Dominion radiator Factory in that year after nearly 20 years at this", "start": 549.839, "end": 556.839}, {"text": "location the subject property is at 358 to 360 duffen Street uh indicated by the", "start": 556.839, "end": 562.959}, {"text": "red dash line comprise part of that late Victorian era industrial compound the", "start": 562.959, "end": 568.279}, {"text": "factory offices Foundry building mixing and core oven buildings with red brick industrial chimneys and Central", "start": 568.279, "end": 574.839}, {"text": "Courtyard which is defined by these large footprint built components constitute a cultural heritage landscape", "start": 574.839, "end": 581.6}, {"text": "that facilitated heavy industrial manufacturing and contributed to the historic character of Parkdale uh", "start": 581.6, "end": 588.279}, {"text": "following the easing of industrial zoning restrictions in the area in the late 19th", "start": 588.279, "end": 594.2}, {"text": "century slide please so this slide shows the early", "start": 594.2, "end": 600.6}, {"text": "built evolution of the site uh the first industrial property owner at the site was the Toronto stove manufacturing", "start": 600.6, "end": 607.36}, {"text": "company from 1884 to 89 and at far left the 1884 goats historical map shows that", "start": 607.36, "end": 614.64}, {"text": "the Toronto stove manufacturing company has just completed their office in Foundry building at the corner of Deen", "start": 614.64, "end": 620.839}, {"text": "Street in Milky Way Lane then by 1903 as seen in the second historical map", "start": 620.839, "end": 626.44}, {"text": "Dominion radiator has not only acquired the earlier buildings which they did in", "start": 626.44, "end": 631.48}, {"text": "1889 but expanded their presence with additions and new buildings around the perimeter of the site to create a much", "start": 631.48, "end": 638.16}, {"text": "larger complex for the manufacturer of steam radiators uh uh including their", "start": 638.16, "end": 644}, {"text": "Safford patent models that became become widely popular in the uh 1890s for both", "start": 644, "end": 650.639}, {"text": "their design and performance and were used in such notable buildings as the Ontario legislative assembly and found", "start": 650.639, "end": 657.8}, {"text": "as far away as new land and China in the archival image uh at right", "start": 657.8, "end": 663.68}, {"text": "in this slide we see the Northern portion of the complex indicated by the arrow and the proximity of the factory", "start": 663.68, "end": 669.8}, {"text": "site to the CP Railway itself a Heritage register property with its then newly", "start": 669.8, "end": 675.079}, {"text": "constructed underpass slide", "start": 675.079, "end": 679.199}, {"text": "please here we move into the central Courtyard of the site today in the heavy industrial heart of the late Victorian", "start": 680.24, "end": 686.68}, {"text": "complex at left looking Southwest we see part of The Foundry building at right with a one-story later Edition in the", "start": 686.68, "end": 694.16}, {"text": "foreground and the core oven building in the background the image at top right in the slide shows the principal East", "start": 694.16, "end": 700.24}, {"text": "elevation of the core oven building and the bottom image shows the abing on story mixing building a late Victorian M", "start": 700.24, "end": 707.76}, {"text": "uh material pallette of red brick with buff brick detailing unifies the original buildings and incremental", "start": 707.76, "end": 714.6}, {"text": "additions showcasing a range of purpose built features developed for heavy manufacturer ing arched and segmentally", "start": 714.6, "end": 721.279}, {"text": "arched window openings coring and rusticated stone further reinforced the Victorian architectural character of the", "start": 721.279, "end": 728.079}, {"text": "industrial complex these buildings uh as well as", "start": 728.079, "end": 733.279}, {"text": "the factory offices that also in part of this report and we'll look at shortly", "start": 733.279, "end": 738.8}, {"text": "are associated with The prominent Toronto architect EJ Lennox uh who", "start": 738.8, "end": 744.079}, {"text": "between 1895 and 1903 adapted and expanded the complex for Dominion radiators", "start": 744.079, "end": 750.92}, {"text": "burgeoning business before designing the company's subsequent larger Factory further up Deen Street near Lapin Avenue", "start": 750.92, "end": 759.44}, {"text": "uh which is now demolished considered one of the city's", "start": 759.44, "end": 765.639}, {"text": "preeminent Victorian era Architects Lennox contributed over 70 known", "start": 765.639, "end": 770.92}, {"text": "buildings to Toronto many of which are significant landmarks his efforts for", "start": 770.92, "end": 776.16}, {"text": "the Dominion Radiator Company occur as at the same time is important Civic and institutional works by him such as Old", "start": 776.16, "end": 783.68}, {"text": "City Hall and the Toronto Athletic Club uh Stuart building of the various Styles", "start": 783.68, "end": 789.16}, {"text": "and typologies in which Lennox deafly worked to 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conceptualized in his drawing can be", "start": 833.639, "end": 839.72}, {"text": "seen today in the current for photograph of the same in the center image on this", "start": 839.72, "end": 845.68}, {"text": "slide slide please the factory offices bu uh", "start": 845.68, "end": 852.079}, {"text": "building forms the largest contiguous portion of Street wall on the site and was designed in two phases by Lennox the", "start": 852.079, "end": 859.639}, {"text": "four northernmost Bays were constructed in 1893 to 1894 and the eight", "start": 859.639, "end": 864.8}, {"text": "southernmost were constructed in 1896 late Victorian features include", "start": 864.8, "end": 870.839}, {"text": "coring along the first floor and cornice line contrasting uh buff brick lentils", "start": 870.839, "end": 876.279}, {"text": "and a rtic rusticated stone base the most noticeable elevation of the", "start": 876.279, "end": 882.24}, {"text": "Dominion radiator complex is the East elevation of 360 deff street with its", "start": 882.24, "end": 887.48}, {"text": "regular rhythm of bays and openings creating a long uninterrupted Street wall on the west elevation the regular", "start": 887.48, "end": 895}, {"text": "rhythm of bays and openings is continued with the original main entrance opening onto the central", "start": 895, "end": 901.24}, {"text": "Courtyard slide please contextually the built and", "start": 901.24, "end": 906.44}, {"text": "Landscape components of the complex that were incrementally added between 1889", "start": 906.44, "end": 911.68}, {"text": "and 1907 are visually functionally and historically linked to one another as", "start": 911.68, "end": 917.44}, {"text": "parts of the Dominion radiator Factory complex the buildings as we've seen are largely contiguous grouped around an", "start": 917.44, "end": 924.519}, {"text": "interior Courtyard the office and Factory editions located at 36 duffen Street serve as the complex's principal", "start": 924.519, "end": 931.959}, {"text": "elevation while the buildings that historically housed heavy industrial uses such as the mixing core up and and", "start": 931.959, "end": 938.44}, {"text": "Foundry buildings are set back from the Main Street and face on to that Central", "start": 938.44, "end": 943.959}, {"text": "Courtyard beyond the context of the complex itself the site is valued as one of the few surviving examples of", "start": 943.959, "end": 950.199}, {"text": "industrial Heritage South of the railway tracks uh on duffen Street along with", "start": 950.199, "end": 955.839}, {"text": "the adjacent uh CP Rail underpass to the north at Queen Street", "start": 955.839, "end": 961.12}, {"text": "West the Dominion radiator complex also contributes to the historic care uh", "start": 961.12, "end": 966.72}, {"text": "historic context of the late 19th century industrialization of the Dale", "start": 966.72, "end": 971.759}, {"text": "area when an 1883 Council decision relaxed local industrial zoning", "start": 971.759, "end": 977.44}, {"text": "regulations to permit uh large footprint industrial sites to infiltrate this", "start": 977.44, "end": 982.68}, {"text": "otherwise fine grain area of Toronto that was up until then known as the floral suburb industrialization of the", "start": 982.68, "end": 990.199}, {"text": "neighborhood brought with it the need for workers housing including the Heritage properties uh which you can see", "start": 990.199, "end": 996.319}, {"text": "in the two images at bottom right located at 1 to7 Melbourne Place built", "start": 996.319, "end": 1002.16}, {"text": "in 1889 to 91 and directly adjacent to the south end of the former Dominion", "start": 1002.16, "end": 1007.319}, {"text": "radiator complex so for the reasons mentioned uh in this presentation and contained", "start": 1007.319, "end": 1014.199}, {"text": "within the staff report before you the subject properties uh meet on Cher regulation", "start": 1014.199, "end": 1020.24}, {"text": "9006 criteria prescribed for municipal designation under part four 20 uh", "start": 1020.24, "end": 1025.4}, {"text": "section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act as such the properties at 358 to 360 de", "start": 1025.4, "end": 1032.558}, {"text": "Street Merit designations staff recommend that councils support the designation of these properties to", "start": 1032.559, "end": 1037.959}, {"text": "conserve their cultural heritage value thank you thank you very much Liz um we", "start": 1037.959, "end": 1044.4}, {"text": "in fact I don't think have a speaker on this uh item I think they backed out can you confirm that", "start": 1044.4, "end": 1051.919}, {"text": "Jen please hi Julia yes sorry no there is no speaker it was the person was", "start": 1052.16, "end": 1057.4}, {"text": "registered as something else but it appeared on our list inadvertently so there's no speaker registered for item", "start": 1057.4, "end": 1064.24}, {"text": "all good all good so at this point though are there questions for Liz um Madam chair this is Adam wi I", "start": 1064.24, "end": 1070.919}, {"text": "apologize I'm having um computer issues so I have my camera off so web runs a bit faster I have um four questions if", "start": 1070.919, "end": 1078.039}, {"text": "possible bi them one at a time does the designation include any", "start": 1078.039, "end": 1084.12}, {"text": "interior elements uh this is quite a sizable Factory complex there's a lot of uh post and de construction on the", "start": 1084.12, "end": 1089.44}, {"text": "inside a lot of um very large wooden components or any of those included within the", "start": 1089.44, "end": 1096.279}, {"text": "designation excuse me thank you through the chair uh no the designation report does not include uh any interior uh", "start": 1097.72, "end": 1106.4}, {"text": "elements um the portions uh of the building that I had access uh to and had", "start": 1106.4, "end": 1114.28}, {"text": "visited the interior of had all been significantly altered and um chopped up", "start": 1114.28, "end": 1121.2}, {"text": "inside if you will to support a lot of the um individual businesses and", "start": 1121.2, "end": 1126.32}, {"text": "community services that are uh currently in place on the", "start": 1126.32, "end": 1131.559}, {"text": "site all right Adam question number two question number two um do you have Could", "start": 1132.159, "end": 1137.679}, {"text": "you um just reiterate when the different sections of that factory complex are built please I understand there's one", "start": 1137.679, "end": 1143.12}, {"text": "section or two sections quite a bit later and is it all EJ lenux or is it uh just parts that are EJ", "start": 1143.12, "end": 1150.12}, {"text": "ltic thank you uh Adam for the question through the chair yes so th this site", "start": 1150.12, "end": 1156.36}, {"text": "has evolved over the 140 years there are uh many moments of buildout uh here so", "start": 1156.36, "end": 1164.88}, {"text": "as I mentioned earlier 18 83 to 84 was when Toronto stove manufacturing company", "start": 1164.88, "end": 1172.679}, {"text": "bought the site and they built the structure at the corner of", "start": 1172.679, "end": 1179.28}, {"text": "duffern uh they built out the structure at the corner of Duffer and Milky Way Lane and that was their offices and", "start": 1179.28, "end": 1187.28}, {"text": "Foundry building and that Foundry building is what is known today as 376", "start": 1187.28, "end": 1192.84}, {"text": "are Deen Street um and after that point", "start": 1192.84, "end": 1197.96}, {"text": "they were only there until 1889 I believe they if I'm remembering correctly from uh my research that uh", "start": 1197.96, "end": 1206.679}, {"text": "they dissolved they went bankrupt at that point and Dominion radiator bought", "start": 1206.679, "end": 1211.84}, {"text": "the site it was a relocation for them from uh a brief time on Niagara Street", "start": 1211.84, "end": 1218.679}, {"text": "and made this their home base uh from 1889 they were there for nearly uh 20", "start": 1218.679, "end": 1224.64}, {"text": "years until 1907 uh and during which time between 18", "start": 1224.64, "end": 1230}, {"text": "uh 95 is the historical record is incomplete uh but what we can say", "start": 1230, "end": 1237.48}, {"text": "definitively was that at least by 1895 they had commissioned uh uh EJ lanx to", "start": 1237.48, "end": 1247.32}, {"text": "um uh to work on pulling together expanding and adding uh additions and", "start": 1247.32, "end": 1254.2}, {"text": "new buildings to the site and the last moment that we know that he was involved", "start": 1254.2, "end": 1260.6}, {"text": "was by 1903 when we can see in that goat's historical map um uh the addition", "start": 1260.6, "end": 1267.08}, {"text": "of the building at 340 Deen Street beyond that once um Dominion radiator uh", "start": 1267.08, "end": 1274.919}, {"text": "vacates the property it no it ceases at that point to be a cohesive late", "start": 1274.919, "end": 1281.2}, {"text": "Victorian heavy industrial complex and goes through multiple uh moments of", "start": 1281.2, "end": 1287.08}, {"text": "different ownership and occupation and with additional buildings built out in", "start": 1287.08, "end": 1292.84}, {"text": "the 50s through the 70s wonderful thing thank you um I I", "start": 1292.84, "end": 1298.88}, {"text": "promise the next question won't be won't be as long but um the chimneys are they or through the show may ask the next", "start": 1298.88, "end": 1305.12}, {"text": "question or of course go for it um are the chimneys part of the designation and", "start": 1305.12, "end": 1310.679}, {"text": "if so are they the original designs um I have EJ lennox's original drawings up on my other screen and it looks like they", "start": 1310.679, "end": 1316.12}, {"text": "had a highly ornamental brick pattern on the chimney do you know if those were rebuilt or if there's an opportunity or hypothetically if there's", "start": 1316.12, "end": 1323.159}, {"text": "a Redevelopment application to bring that back yes thank you so through the chair yes there's a number of Remnant chimneys", "start": 1323.159, "end": 1329.64}, {"text": "on the site and uh the they are an important component of the cultural", "start": 1329.64, "end": 1335.48}, {"text": "heritage value of the site and um they are there are chimneys listed in the", "start": 1335.48, "end": 1342.52}, {"text": "attributes um in the statement of uh significance for the property we are", "start": 1342.52, "end": 1349.44}, {"text": "most excited about uh we we only know for sure and this might be the same image that you have up is the uh East", "start": 1349.44, "end": 1358.36}, {"text": "elevation of the core oven building with the two flanking chimneys those are the only ones that we know what they looked", "start": 1358.36, "end": 1365.4}, {"text": "like originally and what their original height was and uh those are the ones", "start": 1365.4, "end": 1370.919}, {"text": "that you know we would desire could potentially be", "start": 1370.919, "end": 1376.08}, {"text": "rebuilt um using even if possible uh", "start": 1376.08, "end": 1381.159}, {"text": "Remnant bricks from some of the other chimneys that we cannot uh uh prove what", "start": 1381.159, "end": 1387.4}, {"text": "they look like in their original State uh but having said that we also know that there is a lot of deterioration and", "start": 1387.4, "end": 1393.88}, {"text": "Spalding on the brick of those chimneys um but there is a desire to return the", "start": 1393.88, "end": 1399.76}, {"text": "EJ Lennox chimneys on the core oven building to their original state they're currently capped and", "start": 1399.76, "end": 1406.6}, {"text": "truncated wonderful thank you I can actually pull a photo up in about two seconds to show people what we're referring to no no no no no we have a", "start": 1406.6, "end": 1413.88}, {"text": "long okay it would take five seconds an amazing report and which", "start": 1413.88, "end": 1419.76}, {"text": "we've all read I'll send it by email then the last question um very last", "start": 1419.76, "end": 1425}, {"text": "question thank you um can you pull up the site plan again please um does it", "start": 1425, "end": 1430.12}, {"text": "does this site include the laneway on the the West Side the only reason I ask is that's still legally listed as a", "start": 1430.12, "end": 1437}, {"text": "property of the Dominion Radiator Company they haven't existed since 1924 I'm not sure if that's been", "start": 1437, "end": 1443.159}, {"text": "captured in this designation bylaw but I just want to flag that as a potential um property title nightmare with", "start": 1443.159, "end": 1450}, {"text": "it uh thank you for the question through the chair it's my understanding that that is not um part of this site uh and", "start": 1450, "end": 1459.72}, {"text": "it has not been treated as such in the designation report wonderful thank you it's one of", "start": 1459.72, "end": 1465.679}, {"text": "these orphan laneways that we have there is an amazing report are there other", "start": 1465.679, "end": 1471.96}, {"text": "question seeing none is their discussion amongst", "start": 1473.76, "end": 1479.039}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none Adam I know you're having some issues with your video but", "start": 1482.96, "end": 1489.52}, {"text": "it makes life a little bit easier if you could turn it on for voting and just to yeah just to sort of", "start": 1489.52, "end": 1496.64}, {"text": "flag things so you know we just roll with it is there other is there discussion amongst us", "start": 1496.64, "end": 1502.36}, {"text": "then oh uh I'll just flag and my apology I'm just going to grab them I'm just GNA move the camera around but um I just", "start": 1502.36, "end": 1509.08}, {"text": "want to flag that there's a priority perhaps for some other designations on Duff feet if possible in Liberty Village", "start": 1509.08, "end": 1515.44}, {"text": "we have such a wonderful collection of industrial buildings on that stretch that are increasingly vulnerable and", "start": 1515.44, "end": 1521.76}, {"text": "don't have Heritage protection but thank you for this wonderful report it's great to see at least one of them protected so", "start": 1521.76, "end": 1527.32}, {"text": "far absolutely all right if there's no other", "start": 1527.32, "end": 1532.679}, {"text": "discussion then I", "start": 1532.679, "end": 1536.08}, {"text": "have somebody's talking okay no other", "start": 1538.12, "end": 1544.36}, {"text": "discussion we have a staff Report with recommendations before us would anybody like to remove the recommendations of", "start": 1544.36, "end": 1553}, {"text": "report Wendy and then we're gonna let Adam pull", "start": 1553.64, "end": 1558.88}, {"text": "up his video just so that we can all do a raise of", "start": 1558.88, "end": 1563.799}, {"text": "hands and if there's anybody there who should", "start": 1568.08, "end": 1575.159}, {"text": "be muted could you please mute all right Adam are you able to put", "start": 1575.159, "end": 1582.12}, {"text": "up your video I do have my hand raised uh bear", "start": 1582.12, "end": 1587.96}, {"text": "with me about two minutes I'm just going to see if I can restart one of the video drivers and get WebEx okay you know what do it um let's do it orally and you", "start": 1587.96, "end": 1595.36}, {"text": "could just sort of log your vote we've heard you say yay everybody else can raise their hands and then you can reboot as we move on to the next item as", "start": 1595.36, "end": 1602.12}, {"text": "we keep motoring along all right all those in favor and we have Adam who verbally said", "start": 1602.12, "end": 1609.88}, {"text": "yay so the motion carries we're moving on to PB", "start": 1609.88, "end": 1615}, {"text": "25.2 94 courtly Boulevard and welcome", "start": 1615, "end": 1620.76}, {"text": "Clint hello um through the chair good morning members of the board my name is", "start": 1620.76, "end": 1626.559}, {"text": "Clint Robertson and I'm a Heritage planner with the city of Toronto in policy and", "start": 1626.559, "end": 1632.48}, {"text": "research this presentation relates to item PB 25.2 994 courtly Boulevard notice of", "start": 1632.48, "end": 1640.36}, {"text": "intention to designate a property under part four section 29 of the Ontario", "start": 1640.36, "end": 1645.44}, {"text": "Heritage act next slide please", "start": 1645.44, "end": 1650.158}, {"text": "the subject property is located in the Linton Park neighborhood of the Lawrence Park South Community just slightly off", "start": 1650.72, "end": 1658.279}, {"text": "Avenue Road to the East and between Lawrence and Eglington Avenues the property was listed on the", "start": 1658.279, "end": 1665.6}, {"text": "city of Toronto's Heritage register July 19th 2023 next slide", "start": 1665.6, "end": 1673}, {"text": "please Heritage planning staff determined that the property met for or meets four of nine criteria under", "start": 1673.519, "end": 1680.72}, {"text": "Ontario Heritage regulation 9006 first the property is a", "start": 1680.72, "end": 1685.919}, {"text": "representative and fine example of a Suburban estate home from the early 20th century inspired by the Arts and Crafts", "start": 1685.919, "end": 1693.76}, {"text": "movement characteristic features include the half timbering in The Gables the", "start": 1693.76, "end": 1698.799}, {"text": "extended Ro roof slope that bisects the front facade the jacoban window on the", "start": 1698.799, "end": 1704.2}, {"text": "south side it's rustic brick finish asymmetric iCal facade Arrangement and", "start": 1704.2, "end": 1709.559}, {"text": "complex roof line all features which extend to it a picturesque quality", "start": 1709.559, "end": 1715.12}, {"text": "classical windows and ballustrades on the rear relieve it of AI a rigid", "start": 1715.12, "end": 1720.6}, {"text": "Conformity with the Arts and Crafts design and imbue it with an Eclectic aesthetic next slide", "start": 1720.6, "end": 1729.12}, {"text": "please um a high level of detailing distinguishes the house including the", "start": 1729.679, "end": 1734.88}, {"text": "coring and stone brackets below the eaves and stonework rising at the corners above the foundation and the", "start": 1734.88, "end": 1742.2}, {"text": "brick work forming the aprons below the main Windows um as you can see in the", "start": 1742.2, "end": 1747.76}, {"text": "photographs on the slide the design was that of Alfred vidler a builder without", "start": 1747.76, "end": 1752.96}, {"text": "known credentials as an architect but who may uh have had such training giving", "start": 1752.96, "end": 1759.08}, {"text": "given the sophistication of the overall design in the 1940s the rear Veranda was", "start": 1759.08, "end": 1765.48}, {"text": "mostly removed which is the biggest change to the house however it still displays a high level of", "start": 1765.48, "end": 1772}, {"text": "Integrity next slide please Additionally the property has", "start": 1772, "end": 1778.679}, {"text": "historical value for yielding information that contributes to an understanding of the community history", "start": 1778.679, "end": 1784.799}, {"text": "given that it was among the earliest to be constructed in Linton Park and the former subdivision of Alexander Gardens", "start": 1784.799, "end": 1792.279}, {"text": "it was built for William weeks a prominent and professional decorator in Toronto despite desite the ambitious", "start": 1792.279, "end": 1798.88}, {"text": "subdivision plans being registered between 1910 and 1911 to create hundreds", "start": 1798.88, "end": 1804.72}, {"text": "of building Lots the 1913 map uh as you see on the slide shows just a half dozen", "start": 1804.72, "end": 1811.159}, {"text": "houses constructed in the entire Western third of the community um including the", "start": 1811.159, "end": 1818.039}, {"text": "subject property the next year since Alexander Gardens was built out primarily in the late 1920s to early", "start": 1818.039, "end": 1825.44}, {"text": "1940s the property at 94 courtly Boulevard constructed in 1914 reflects", "start": 1825.44, "end": 1831.36}, {"text": "the original development phase of Linton Park next slide", "start": 1831.36, "end": 1838.679}, {"text": "please the property has contextual value for its contribution to defining", "start": 1838.679, "end": 1844}, {"text": "maintaining and supporting the character of the area like a significant number of properties historically developed on", "start": 1844, "end": 1849.799}, {"text": "courtly Boulevard and in the area the design of the subject property was inspired by the Arts and Crafts movement", "start": 1849.799, "end": 1856}, {"text": "a preferred aesthetic during the early 20th century additionally when Alexander", "start": 1856, "end": 1861.159}, {"text": "Gardens was developed it had numerous restrictive covenants placed upon it", "start": 1861.159, "end": 1866.36}, {"text": "such as minimum setbacks minimum building costs specifications for", "start": 1866.36, "end": 1871.519}, {"text": "highquality finished materials landscape provisions and a residential use", "start": 1871.519, "end": 1876.84}, {"text": "requirement they contributed to a harmonious contextual character which is further reflected by 94 courtly", "start": 1876.84, "end": 1883.72}, {"text": "Boulevard next slide please", "start": 1883.72, "end": 1888.278}, {"text": "um finally the property is linked to its courtly Boulevard and Linton Park", "start": 1890.08, "end": 1895.12}, {"text": "surroundings in a visual physical functional and historical ways its", "start": 1895.12, "end": 1900.48}, {"text": "materials stylistic design substantive character and spatial relation to the", "start": 1900.48, "end": 1905.76}, {"text": "street which were specified by original restrictive covenants tie the property visually and physically to its context", "start": 1905.76, "end": 1913.2}, {"text": "as one of the earliest residences in the area the property helped set the tone and vision for development in the area", "start": 1913.2, "end": 1921.039}, {"text": "um that concludes my presentation thank you and happy to answer any", "start": 1921.039, "end": 1927.48}, {"text": "questions thank you so much Clint so this item was held um do we", "start": 1930.039, "end": 1936.36}, {"text": "have any questions for", "start": 1936.36, "end": 1940.278}, {"text": "Clint seeing none see it was a great report this is this is I I like good", "start": 1945.919, "end": 1951.36}, {"text": "news stories um so is there discussion amongst ourselves", "start": 1951.36, "end": 1958.279}, {"text": "Alex yes it was a good report and it's a magnificent house I just wanted to point", "start": 1958.279, "end": 1963.6}, {"text": "this out as an example of how important it is to identify properties such as this one when early on in the", "start": 1963.6, "end": 1971.279}, {"text": "development process fortunately a panel member Eli Aon who's an expert on Linton", "start": 1971.279, "end": 1976.919}, {"text": "Park noted that this house was for sale several years ago and brought it to our", "start": 1976.919, "end": 1982.32}, {"text": "attention and as you probably saw it was listed last year and it's resulted in", "start": 1982.32, "end": 1988.6}, {"text": "this happy uh situation today we're quite sure that if this had", "start": 1988.6, "end": 1994.12}, {"text": "not happened the house would have been demolished and probably the property would have been subdivided so just again", "start": 1994.12, "end": 2001.639}, {"text": "um I think it's a good lesson in getting in there early in the process thank you", "start": 2001.639, "end": 2009.2}, {"text": "thank you very much Alex any other discussion Wendy um it's it's not is not a question", "start": 2009.2, "end": 2016.44}, {"text": "or anything just for the information from the knowledge so is this usually this kind of like um like a case and and", "start": 2016.44, "end": 2024.799}, {"text": "well for this occasion I'm learning from from Adams so is it interior included or", "start": 2024.799, "end": 2031.32}, {"text": "just exterior uh through the chair yes as per", "start": 2031.32, "end": 2036.84}, {"text": "the report it's only the exterior not interior so is it including the roof yes", "start": 2036.84, "end": 2044.6}, {"text": "the roof the roof line um the the Finish materials on the roof specifically which", "start": 2044.6, "end": 2051.52}, {"text": "is slate so the entire roof is is uh is an", "start": 2051.52, "end": 2057.118}, {"text": "attribute I see so is it for this type of case that usually cannot get into the", "start": 2057.119, "end": 2063.878}, {"text": "interior let's say the interior is really original interior with like high value to preserve or or important", "start": 2063.879, "end": 2070.839}, {"text": "significant historical event the the ACT still cannot cover that", "start": 2070.839, "end": 2077.398}, {"text": "aspect is that the case because I'm still learning about how much that will be covered if there's like this type of", "start": 2077.399, "end": 2084.28}, {"text": "scenario and uh again I think this is a beautiful report and I'm so happy to see that it's like putting on the table to", "start": 2084.28, "end": 2091.358}, {"text": "at least for some sort of potential uh like like Productions and what arst said", "start": 2091.359, "end": 2097.359}, {"text": "me the Story the background thank you for those in like background information they're great and it's really good news", "start": 2097.359, "end": 2103.4}, {"text": "but I'm just for my own knowledge I just like to know more to what extent that", "start": 2103.4, "end": 2108.48}, {"text": "can be like this sport can request to cover more if that's not too greedy", "start": 2108.48, "end": 2113.76}, {"text": "thank you yeah good morning good morning board it's uh Tamar s cartright the", "start": 2113.76, "end": 2119.32}, {"text": "program manager uh through the chair the Ontario Heritage act uh under the", "start": 2119.32, "end": 2124.72}, {"text": "individual designations under part four um allow for identification of any", "start": 2124.72, "end": 2130.48}, {"text": "features or attributes that uh embody the cultural heritage value so those", "start": 2130.48, "end": 2135.68}, {"text": "could be features on the exterior that at the rear uh elevation of the house", "start": 2135.68, "end": 2141.76}, {"text": "could also or any building or could be the interior however with a part five", "start": 2141.76, "end": 2147.4}, {"text": "designation which you're going to hear uh later in in the agenda uh there is no", "start": 2147.4, "end": 2152.72}, {"text": "interior protection under part five and as we look at each property when we were", "start": 2152.72, "end": 2158.52}, {"text": "doing individual designations we look to see what are the features of the property that might uh best represent or", "start": 2158.52, "end": 2167.28}, {"text": "embody that cultural heritage value and for the purposes of this property we did not identify individual interior", "start": 2167.28, "end": 2174.72}, {"text": "features as noted by Clint I hope that answers your question yes yes that's", "start": 2174.72, "end": 2179.88}, {"text": "very informative thank you very much yeah that's what I'm looking for so this is like the would be like based on", "start": 2179.88, "end": 2185.839}, {"text": "different acts right different okay okay thank you that's very informative thank you so we we've", "start": 2185.839, "end": 2193.48}, {"text": "slipped a little bit back into questions of staff so just are there questions of staff at this", "start": 2193.48, "end": 2199.64}, {"text": "moment seeing none any other discussion amongst", "start": 2199.64, "end": 2205.319}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none we have a report before us with recommendations would anybody care to move the recommendations", "start": 2205.839, "end": 2212.319}, {"text": "in the report Alex all those in favor please raise your", "start": 2212.319, "end": 2219.319}, {"text": "hand and the motion carries thank you very much moving on to", "start": 2219.319, "end": 2225.839}, {"text": "PB 25.3 and we'll welcome Gary to the", "start": 2225.839, "end": 2231.88}, {"text": "floor good morning good morning everyone thanks Hans my name is Gary Mima and I'm", "start": 2231.88, "end": 2238.319}, {"text": "a project manager with h Heritage planning and I will be presenting this report today and I'd like to recognize", "start": 2238.319, "end": 2244.599}, {"text": "the work of Lindsey Parsons assistant planner and Patrick Brown Heritage planner in pulling together this listing", "start": 2244.599, "end": 2251.24}, {"text": "report uh this Pro this report recommends that 53 stra Avenue uh", "start": 2251.24, "end": 2256.88}, {"text": "recommends 53 St Avenue for inclusion on the Heritage register as a listed property next slide", "start": 2256.88, "end": 2264.4}, {"text": "please subject property at 53 stra Avenue is located on the Southeast corner of stra Avenue and Wellington", "start": 2264.4, "end": 2271.76}, {"text": "Street West immediately north of the Lakeshore West rail Corridor the city-owned property was identified in", "start": 2271.76, "end": 2279.16}, {"text": "2014 as having potential Heritage value as part of a Heritage survey conducted through the South Niagra planning", "start": 2279.16, "end": 2286.52}, {"text": "strategy staff have undertaken research and evaluation for the property at 53 stra Avenue including entrance addresses", "start": 2286.52, "end": 2293.92}, {"text": "715 801 805a 805 and 805b Willington Street West and believe that the", "start": 2293.92, "end": 2300.68}, {"text": "property has cultural heritage value or interest and meets at least one of the criteria prescribed in Ontario", "start": 2300.68, "end": 2306.48}, {"text": "regulation 906 for including a non-designated property on a municipal register under Section 27", "start": 2306.48, "end": 2314.16}, {"text": "of the onaral Heritage act next slide please constructed in 1888 the", "start": 2314.16, "end": 2320.68}, {"text": "property's primary structure has designed value as a representative example of a large scale late 19th", "start": 2320.68, "end": 2326.52}, {"text": "century brick Factory warehouse type building the property is associated with", "start": 2326.52, "end": 2331.92}, {"text": "The prominent Lumber Company of John B Smith and Sons uh and the property also", "start": 2331.92, "end": 2337.079}, {"text": "defined supports and maintains the former industrial character of the South Niagara area and is visually physically", "start": 2337.079, "end": 2343.24}, {"text": "and historically linked to its surroundings anchoring the southeast corner of Willington Street West and", "start": 2343.24, "end": 2348.68}, {"text": "stwn Avenue the property has been a visible landmark in the South Niagara area since the late", "start": 2348.68, "end": 2354.52}, {"text": "1880s thank you thank you very much", "start": 2354.52, "end": 2359.68}, {"text": "Gary are there questions of staff", "start": 2359.68, "end": 2365.88}, {"text": "seeing none do we have discussion amongst ourselves by apologies there", "start": 2371.079, "end": 2376.48}, {"text": "was have ex I'm running slow I have two questions for Gary okay go for it number", "start": 2376.48, "end": 2382.04}, {"text": "one uh number one uh hi Gary um thanks for the great presentation um will the", "start": 2382.04, "end": 2388.04}, {"text": "ghost sign be included in in this listing report or in a future destination", "start": 2388.04, "end": 2393.079}, {"text": "report that's a great ex oh s go ahead oh well true the here that that's that's", "start": 2393.079, "end": 2398.28}, {"text": "a great example of uh of something that would be uh further looked at through a", "start": 2398.28, "end": 2404.079}, {"text": "designation report and I think that the designation report would address that issue number two just a followup comment", "start": 2404.079, "end": 2412.48}, {"text": "on that number one one I it's my understanding it's under active renovation so I hope that ghost sign does survive um until designation comes", "start": 2412.48, "end": 2419}, {"text": "forward U there's a second building on this site um was that assessed for Heritage value as", "start": 2419, "end": 2425.119}, {"text": "well uh it was so when when when staff did look at the site um we considered", "start": 2425.119, "end": 2430.319}, {"text": "the entire site and uh following that evaluation we focused our um listing", "start": 2430.319, "end": 2436.72}, {"text": "report on the primary structure that the very large uh three story industrial uh", "start": 2436.72, "end": 2442.4}, {"text": "Factory warehouse type building uh so that that's the primary structure that's identified in the listing", "start": 2442.4, "end": 2448.48}, {"text": "report thank you very much any other questions of", "start": 2448.48, "end": 2453.92}, {"text": "Staff Adam thank you is there a follow-up opportunity for listing or designation of that secondary structure", "start": 2454.64, "end": 2461.48}, {"text": "should it meet the criteria I I again that this is a fuller", "start": 2461.48, "end": 2467.4}, {"text": "evaluation report would have a chance to um dig more deeply into the site and at", "start": 2467.4, "end": 2472.52}, {"text": "that point further as the report notes further values could be identified so that would be the", "start": 2472.52, "end": 2478.319}, {"text": "opportunity perfect any other", "start": 2478.319, "end": 2482.56}, {"text": "questions seeing none discussion amongst ourselves", "start": 2483.52, "end": 2488.76}, {"text": "Adam it's interesting that the uh site map includes the public park a secondary building and the main building um I hope", "start": 2488.76, "end": 2495.8}, {"text": "that won't cause any headaches for uh the future development of that Park other discussion", "start": 2495.8, "end": 2504.319}, {"text": "points seeing none I have a staff report before us with recommendations would anybody care to move the recommendations", "start": 2505, "end": 2511.28}, {"text": "in the report uh sorry Katarina thank you all", "start": 2511.28, "end": 2516.64}, {"text": "those in favor please raise your hand motion carries thank you very much", "start": 2516.64, "end": 2523.68}, {"text": "motoring along to uh PB 25.4 with many Bay addresses which I", "start": 2523.68, "end": 2531.04}, {"text": "will let Gary read out I'm back uh hi everyone again happy to", "start": 2531.04, "end": 2536.68}, {"text": "present this report and here again I just want to thank Lindsay Parsons for her work and also Anna Martin Heritage", "start": 2536.68, "end": 2542.599}, {"text": "planner who also contributed to this listing report thank you Hans the report", "start": 2542.599, "end": 2547.76}, {"text": "recommends uh 1747 1751 1759 1763", "start": 2547.76, "end": 2555.559}, {"text": "1767 1771 1773 and 1775 bayw Avenue for inclusion", "start": 2555.559, "end": 2563.48}, {"text": "on the Heritage register next Slide the subject properties uh on bayw", "start": 2563.48, "end": 2571.92}, {"text": "Avenue and I won't repeat all of the addresses at this point um are located on the east side of B View Avenue south", "start": 2571.92, "end": 2578.28}, {"text": "of Eglington Avenue East and North of parkor uh Boulevard in the leide", "start": 2578.28, "end": 2583.4}, {"text": "Bennington neighborhood the eight subject properties form part of a group of 10 contiguous two-story purpose-built", "start": 2583.4, "end": 2592}, {"text": "properties uh that house four um residential Apartments uh all the", "start": 2592, "end": 2598.2}, {"text": "buildings are of similar design um and all were nominated for inclusion on the Heritage register by the North York", "start": 2598.2, "end": 2604.72}, {"text": "panel in 2011 to two of the 10 properties have since been designated", "start": 2604.72, "end": 2610.68}, {"text": "under the inario Heritage act uh the eight subject properties recommended for inclusion on the city's", "start": 2610.68, "end": 2617}, {"text": "Heritage register have been researched and evaluated by staff using the criteria prescribed in Ontario regulation 906 and meet one or more of", "start": 2617, "end": 2625.16}, {"text": "the provincial criteria for determining cultural heritage value or interest and are believed to be of cultural heritage", "start": 2625.16, "end": 2631.079}, {"text": "value or interest uh the properties were constructed in the 1930s and hold physical value as two-story house form", "start": 2631.079, "end": 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"end": 2683.04}, {"text": "uh moves you into the opportunity to enter one of four residential Apartments within these buildings and you can see", "start": 2683.04, "end": 2688.96}, {"text": "the similar typology with varying architectural detail across these", "start": 2688.96, "end": 2694}, {"text": "properties that's the presentation thank you very much", "start": 2694, "end": 2699.04}, {"text": "Gary do we have questions of Staff", "start": 2699.04, "end": 2706.8}, {"text": "Jeff well first of all I'd like to um thank staff um for bringing this forward", "start": 2709.839, "end": 2715.119}, {"text": "it was U it's interesting story it came out of the um overbuild at the leide", "start": 2715.119, "end": 2722.2}, {"text": "station the LRT station uh Michael Seaman at that time who was involved in the mediation and so on and the", "start": 2722.2, "end": 2729.319}, {"text": "subsequent report to council um put in a request for the additional", "start": 2729.319, "end": 2735.599}, {"text": "um quadruplexes um south of the station to be brought forward for listing um by", "start": 2735.599, "end": 2743.72}, {"text": "November 2024 and indeed the the target has been", "start": 2743.72, "end": 2748.839}, {"text": "reached so that's appreciated um a couple of of points um the um I guess a", "start": 2748.839, "end": 2756.119}, {"text": "major point would why would we not um proceed to designation um because the under the the", "start": 2756.119, "end": 2763.88}, {"text": "provincial government's new regulations they did extend the the listing period", "start": 2763.88, "end": 2770}, {"text": "for two years um so now the listing expires uh December 31", "start": 2770, "end": 2778.92}, {"text": "2026 I believe um but that only gives us two years um in this case uh two as um", "start": 2778.92, "end": 2786.8}, {"text": "as Gary stated two of the U quads have previously been", "start": 2786.8, "end": 2793.319}, {"text": "designated um and it's a pretty it's a pretty uh 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um that's", "start": 2849.839, "end": 2855.24}, {"text": "17661 um when in fact they um we always refer they have they have two front", "start": 2855.24, "end": 2861.28}, {"text": "doors basically they they're quads but there were two double duplexes so there", "start": 2861.28, "end": 2867.28}, {"text": "were two front doors and and the left hand side and the right hand side um the", "start": 2867.28, "end": 2872.599}, {"text": "the lower number is on the right so they that's the way people think of the them as 1775 1777 you know Hy in between but", "start": 2872.599, "end": 2882.16}, {"text": "here I understand that we're using a legal uh legal numbering and it's it's", "start": 2882.16, "end": 2887.72}, {"text": "just that it's more clear um to the public um to use the the double the", "start": 2887.72, "end": 2894.599}, {"text": "double numbering indicating the two halves of the the quads and I'm wondering why we didn't do that um thank", "start": 2894.599, "end": 2901.88}, {"text": "you um and um appreciate the report", "start": 2901.88, "end": 2908.039}, {"text": "are you Gary thank you through the chair uh to the first question um staff were", "start": 2908.599, "end": 2915.24}, {"text": "responding directly with this report to council's Direction in March of this year to evaluate the properties for", "start": 2915.24, "end": 2921.079}, {"text": "inclusion on the Heritage register uh so that's what we've accomplished as you know listing is also a uh an efficient", "start": 2921.079, "end": 2928.44}, {"text": "means to add properties to the register and then it it certainly comes with um", "start": 2928.44, "end": 2933.559}, {"text": "benefits in terms of uh monitoring the properties moving forward um with regards to the addresses Fair", "start": 2933.559, "end": 2940.359}, {"text": "Point and first of all thank you Jee for your uh advocacy over the years and and patience as as uh these properties were", "start": 2940.359, "end": 2947.88}, {"text": "identified a long time ago um and uh the the addresses typically staff will use", "start": 2947.88, "end": 2954.119}, {"text": "in our reports primary addresses which are the legal addresses to the properties um and we do that for um", "start": 2954.119, "end": 2962}, {"text": "legal reasons to be clear about which property we're talking about the report in the in the listing statement", "start": 2962, "end": 2967.68}, {"text": "uh members of the board may have noticed that we did refer to the entrance addresses so we tried to address that", "start": 2967.68, "end": 2973.2}, {"text": "issue noting that it it could confuse people and in each of the listing statements we do reference the entrance", "start": 2973.2, "end": 2978.799}, {"text": "addresses uh so the two addresses for each property but we do identify them singularly by their uh primary", "start": 2978.799, "end": 2986.64}, {"text": "addresses thanks Gary other", "start": 2986.64, "end": 2991.48}, {"text": "questions seeing no further question Jeff well I'm I'm just responding um in", "start": 2994.319, "end": 2999.96}, {"text": "terms of Gary's response I'm just still concerned about the listing um would", "start": 2999.96, "end": 3005.359}, {"text": "would there be any objection from staff if I if I made a motion uh requesting designation reports coming back um you", "start": 3005.359, "end": 3014.4}, {"text": "know the as I say this is two years um and and and if if if we missed that then", "start": 3014.4, "end": 3021.079}, {"text": "we've lost it for five years right I mean the the uh the powerful message", "start": 3021.079, "end": 3026.16}, {"text": "from the Province to get rid of these listing properties um if if they're not", "start": 3026.16, "end": 3031.72}, {"text": "dealt with as as designation within the time frame so it's it's a big risk if if we miss those those", "start": 3031.72, "end": 3040.68}, {"text": "deadlines hi Mary hello good morning uh", "start": 3040.88, "end": 3046.68}, {"text": "Jeff I think the issue I mean obviously you're you the board will put forward", "start": 3046.68, "end": 3052.16}, {"text": "motions as it seese fit to the chair um I would say how however that as we are", "start": 3052.16, "end": 3058.559}, {"text": "as you know very well embarking on a fairly substantial Mass", "start": 3058.559, "end": 3065.119}, {"text": "designation process that there's no guarantee I can't give you a guarantee", "start": 3065.119, "end": 3071.76}, {"text": "that we would be that we will be able to do that within any time frame specified", "start": 3071.76, "end": 3077.04}, {"text": "by the board but I can certainly guarantee that we will consider them within the mix of priorities uh of the", "start": 3077.04, "end": 3085}, {"text": "listing Pro listed property that we will move forward for designation before uh any expiry dates", "start": 3085, "end": 3092.119}, {"text": "so right now as you've seen in our presentations we're doing a a very 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I'll I'll I'll hold off I don't want to make extra work for staff but it", "start": 3145.24, "end": 3151.2}, {"text": "it just seems It's a shame that we didn't uh you know move forward on the designation it's it's kind of a cookbook", "start": 3151.2, "end": 3157.68}, {"text": "um designation I think the proper is are basically you know follow a PN and the", "start": 3157.68, "end": 3163.4}, {"text": "designation reports would be pretty similar I think fair enough are there", "start": 3163.4, "end": 3168.64}, {"text": "other questions we have right now of Staff seeing none any discussion amongst", "start": 3168.64, "end": 3175.44}, {"text": "ourselves", "start": 3175.44, "end": 3178.44}, {"text": "seeing none I have a report before us with recommendations would anybody care to move the recommendations in that", "start": 3182.72, "end": 3188.559}, {"text": "report Jeff thank you very much all those in favor raise your", "start": 3188.559, "end": 3193.68}, {"text": "hands fantastic motion carries look at us getting things done today PB", "start": 3193.68, "end": 3201.28}, {"text": "25.5 2102 Lawrence Avenue East and and we're going to say hello to", "start": 3201.28, "end": 3209.28}, {"text": "Georgia good morning uh my name is Georgia kush I'm senior Heritage planner and I will be presenting the report", "start": 3209.28, "end": 3216.119}, {"text": "recommending approval of the alterations to and demolition of a building on the", "start": 3216.119, "end": 3221.68}, {"text": "property at 2102 Lawrence Avenue East and also requesting authority to enter into a Heritage easement agreement now", "start": 3221.68, "end": 3229.64}, {"text": "the United Property resource Corporation and their development partner Kindred Works have submitted a a Heritage permit", "start": 3229.64, "end": 3237.44}, {"text": "application in conjunction with an official plan and Zoning Amendment", "start": 3237.44, "end": 3242.839}, {"text": "application uh next slide please the property is 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"extensions alterations to the property include the construction of a new L-shaped rental housing complex with 30%", "start": 3348.4, "end": 3356.88}, {"text": "of them being affordable rental units targeted at below Market rates west of", "start": 3356.88, "end": 3362.72}, {"text": "the church would be a 12 story component which you can see in this slide and that", "start": 3362.72, "end": 3367.76}, {"text": "is connected to the West Wall of the church by a twostory glazed Atrium which", "start": 3367.76, "end": 3373.119}, {"text": "is about 5 meters wide next", "start": 3373.119, "end": 3378.119}, {"text": "please this site plan shows the church in blue the 12-story building uh the new", "start": 3378.4, "end": 3384.44}, {"text": "12-story building west of it and a new six-story component constructed behind", "start": 3384.44, "end": 3389.88}, {"text": "the rear wall of the church and not connected at the north side of the property a community garden and a", "start": 3389.88, "end": 3397.039}, {"text": "publicly accessible playground will be introduced as for the 1842 Cemetery the", "start": 3397.039, "end": 3403.079}, {"text": "project proposes to create and maintain a stable environment for the uh Cemetery", "start": 3403.079, "end": 3408.4}, {"text": "which is located on the east side of the property and just a note on the cemetery", "start": 3408.4, "end": 3413.92}, {"text": "Community planning is taking a concurrent report report forward recommending that the portion of land", "start": 3413.92, "end": 3419.079}, {"text": "containing the cemetery be rezoned as open space cemetery and designated in", "start": 3419.079, "end": 3424.92}, {"text": "the official plan as an open space area to protect it to protect the open space", "start": 3424.92, "end": 3430.88}, {"text": "and that means that development will not be permitted on the cemetery land next", "start": 3430.88, "end": 3437.68}, {"text": "please this detailed plan shows the separation of the new building from the", "start": 3437.68, "end": 3442.76}, {"text": "existing church at the west and the north side so there's five M at the west and 3.1 M at the", "start": 3442.76, "end": 3450.88}, {"text": "North next please and here's a drawing showing the full proposal on the Lawrence elevation", "start": 3450.88, "end": 3458.319}, {"text": "and the church you can see on the right next", "start": 3458.319, "end": 3463.48}, {"text": "please and this is an elevation drawing showing the East wall and next slide", "start": 3463.48, "end": 3471.839}, {"text": "please now the interventions to the church are very minimal and limited only to the North and the West walls so on", "start": 3471.839, "end": 3478.359}, {"text": "the North side the demolition of the addition will reveal the full wall which", "start": 3478.359, "end": 3483.52}, {"text": "will be restored and the upper windows will be removed and replaced with new leaded glass windows with decorative", "start": 3483.52, "end": 3490.039}, 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cemetery and", "start": 3530.28, "end": 3535.359}, {"text": "and the new Zone as open space east of the church will continue to provide a large amount of open space and Views to", "start": 3535.359, "end": 3542.44}, {"text": "the church and will maintain that relationship between the church and the cemetery the church no longer has an", "start": 3542.44, "end": 3549.599}, {"text": "active congregation and its full retention and Rehabilitation for a new use in the context of a new residential", "start": 3549.599, "end": 3556.24}, {"text": "development is one that staff can support thank you thank you so much", "start": 3556.24, "end": 3564.2}, {"text": "Georgia uh do we have questions of Matthew and then Alex and", "start": 3564.2, "end": 3571.72}, {"text": "then sure hi uh you answered most of my questions I was going to ask just", "start": 3571.72, "end": 3576.88}, {"text": "regarding the cemetery the cemetery is included as part of the property I wasn't", "start": 3576.88, "end": 3581.92}, {"text": "entirely sure on that cemetery is part of the property", "start": 3581.92, "end": 3587.319}, {"text": "yes it is and is there any information about the further upkeep and the M", "start": 3587.319, "end": 3593.599}, {"text": "maintenance of the uh of the cemetery I not sure if it's a Heritage uh Cemetery", "start": 3593.599, "end": 3601.24}, {"text": "or not well it's not identified in the designation bylaw as as an", "start": 3601.24, "end": 3607.92}, {"text": "attribute uh only the church is and and parts of the church so the the owners", "start": 3607.92, "end": 3614.2}, {"text": "will be responsible for the maintenance of the cemetery okay thank you", "start": 3614.2, "end": 3620.88}, {"text": "Alex yes through you madam chair I just wonder if there's any plan to", "start": 3620.88, "end": 3626.119}, {"text": "incorporate the three I assume stained glass windows which are going to be removed from the north uh side of the", "start": 3626.119, "end": 3633.079}, {"text": "sanctuary could they be incorporated in the development somewhere else or what is is there a plan I will let um I", "start": 3633.079, "end": 3640.839}, {"text": "believe the Heritage consultant is here and I think I would ask the Heritage", "start": 3640.839, "end": 3646.44}, {"text": "consultant to respond to", "start": 3646.44, "end": 3649.64}, {"text": "that however I think our heritage consultant is not on our speakers is not", "start": 3652.039, "end": 3658.96}, {"text": "here is not", "start": 3658.96, "end": 3662.799}, {"text": "here so I I'm not sure but given that the the uprc is the development arm of", "start": 3664.72, "end": 3671.839}, {"text": "the United Church and they are this is their development um I would I would imagine", "start": 3671.839, "end": 3678.28}, {"text": "that those windows would be incorporated somewhere um but that's certainly a", "start": 3678.28, "end": 3683.68}, {"text": "conversation that we can have and look at in the cont conservation plan thank you", "start": 3683.68, "end": 3691.359}, {"text": "CH I just um I I also had a question about the cemetery I just wanted um you", "start": 3691.88, "end": 3697.28}, {"text": "know there the cemetery um memorials there right um so", "start": 3697.28, "end": 3703.16}, {"text": "what happens to those is is the cemetery being decommissioned I forget I think", "start": 3703.16, "end": 3708.88}, {"text": "this is a technical term for that um but what is the status of the the cemetery from a legal and uh is it will it", "start": 3708.88, "end": 3716.2}, {"text": "continue to be active or is it simply um like um set aside um and and so in what", "start": 3716.2, "end": 3724.119}, {"text": "what would be the um interaction with the public that's possible what I", "start": 3724.119, "end": 3729.44}, {"text": "understand is that the cemetery is closed for New interments and and that's all I can tell you that's all I know at this", "start": 3729.44, "end": 3737.96}, {"text": "point and Georgia is it true though that that that cemeteries are in this case", "start": 3739.64, "end": 3744.92}, {"text": "graveyard um it it's also covered under different legislation for its protection that's", "start": 3744.92, "end": 3750.839}, {"text": "right okay uh Adam you've got a question and then", "start": 3750.839, "end": 3757.48}, {"text": "Wendy you are muted Adam uh thank you for that presentation", "start": 3758.799, "end": 3765.839}, {"text": "um do we know roughly or rather in the discussions around the Heritage elements of this file uh were there any", "start": 3765.839, "end": 3772.44}, {"text": "discussions of having them do a a site survey to um determine that all the graves are where they think they are I", "start": 3772.44, "end": 3777.76}, {"text": "know that intersects with the brief authority of Ontario um but depending on", "start": 3777.76, "end": 3783.48}, {"text": "the alterations to this property there may be interments in places you don't expect given the age of it I'm gonna ask", "start": 3783.48, "end": 3788.799}, {"text": "my archaeology colleagues to respond to that question good morning uh thank you", "start": 3788.799, "end": 3796.119}, {"text": "Georgia H through the chair uh my name is Alis Andor leer I'm the project manager for archaeology uh with Heritage", "start": 3796.119, "end": 3803.16}, {"text": "planning at the city of Toronto um the development proposal uh that was", "start": 3803.16, "end": 3808.48}, {"text": "considered by City Planning did include requirements for archaeological assessment that was", "start": 3808.48, "end": 3813.72}, {"text": "undertaken um specifically to confirm the presence of any unmarked burials and", "start": 3813.72, "end": 3819.279}, {"text": "to avoid uh any impacts to those uh burials um as you'll note in the staff", "start": 3819.279, "end": 3825.88}, {"text": "report there are recommendations that require um further archeological assessment prior to any um uh permits", "start": 3825.88, "end": 3834.559}, {"text": "involving subsurface impacts within the limits of the cemetery um so there would", "start": 3834.559, "end": 3840.64}, {"text": "be uh some additional work required if impacts were proposed within the boundaries of the cemetery which they", "start": 3840.64, "end": 3846.44}, {"text": "are um you know just to reiterate from Georgia's report there are no alterations uh being proposed to the", "start": 3846.44, "end": 3852.88}, {"text": "south or east elevations of that historic church thank you very much", "start": 3852.88, "end": 3858.599}, {"text": "Allison um Wendy you have a", "start": 3858.599, "end": 3863.4}, {"text": "question uh uh yes thank you I just wonder well it's a great presentation", "start": 3864.079, "end": 3869.44}, {"text": "thank you and I just wonder is that a timeline for the uh demolition because well I kind of like", "start": 3869.44, "end": 3877.079}, {"text": "with experience of a um Metropolitan church I believe that's where I used to", "start": 3877.079, "end": 3882.279}, {"text": "leave and and they they demolished the like addition sessions and and for a", "start": 3882.279, "end": 3888.48}, {"text": "long time they did not put anything back as what we heard from the neighborhood as something new building coming up so I", "start": 3888.48, "end": 3895.96}, {"text": "just wonder is there any timeline for the demolitions and then um any like plan timelin for putting up the new", "start": 3895.96, "end": 3903.96}, {"text": "building thank you yes through the chair those timelines will be addressed in the", "start": 3903.96, "end": 3909.4}, {"text": "Heritage easement agreement at this time I don't have that", "start": 3909.4, "end": 3914.559}, {"text": "information but they will be but they will be nailed down in that agreement oh okay thank", "start": 3914.559, "end": 3921.079}, {"text": "you are there other questions of staff", "start": 3921.079, "end": 3926.76}, {"text": "seeing none thank you Georgia oh hi Mary hi sorry um I just had one minor thing", "start": 3927.24, "end": 3933.68}, {"text": "to add to uh georg's answer for Wendy's uh to elay her concerns when we uh issue", "start": 3933.68, "end": 3941.44}, {"text": "any permits of course all protections have to be in place including a letter of credit approved conservation plan and", "start": 3941.44, "end": 3948.52}, {"text": "there are requirements for when we would release any permit and as part of that if we understood there was going to be", "start": 3948.52, "end": 3954.52}, {"text": "any delay in work we would ensure that appropriate protective measures would be put in place for any part of the church", "start": 3954.52, "end": 3962.88}, {"text": "uh that would be um perhaps uh open to impact if there was a delay so I just", "start": 3962.88, "end": 3970.16}, {"text": "wanted to um pop that in so you wouldn't be concerned thank you very much other", "start": 3970.16, "end": 3979.079}, {"text": "questions seeing none we move into discussion amongst ourselves is there", "start": 3979.079, "end": 3984.119}, {"text": "any seeing none we have a staff Report with", "start": 3984.119, "end": 3990.16}, {"text": "recommendations before us would anybody like to move the recommendations in the report from Matthew thank you very much", "start": 3990.16, "end": 3996.079}, {"text": "all those in favor raise your hands and the motion", "start": 3996.079, "end": 4002.4}, {"text": "carries moving on now to PB 25.6 and we will welcome", "start": 4002.96, "end": 4011.92}, {"text": "Cecilia through the chair good morning members of the board Madame chair I'm", "start": 4012.48, "end": 4018.16}, {"text": "Cecilia n Hernandez I'm a Heritage planner with the policy and research team in Heritage planning and the", "start": 4018.16, "end": 4024.079}, {"text": "Project Lead for the teon babby Point Heritage District plan I would like to thank the city planning project team for", "start": 4024.079, "end": 4030.24}, {"text": "their work on this project that brought us here today I'll be presenting the item PB 25.6 designation of the tagon", "start": 4030.24, "end": 4039.039}, {"text": "babby Point Heritage Conservation District under part five of the Ontario Heritage act and will be followed by", "start": 4039.039, "end": 4044.92}, {"text": "presentation by by dimma cook and Emily CH from evoke architecture who are the lead consultants for the project I'm", "start": 4044.92, "end": 4051.4}, {"text": "also here today uh with some of my colleagues um Allison T La project manager archaeology for the city um I", "start": 4051.4, "end": 4058.839}, {"text": "myself together with dimma and Allison will be mainly answering questions to staff that the board may have after the", "start": 4058.839, "end": 4065.44}, {"text": "presentation next slide please the proposed teon babby Point", "start": 4065.44, "end": 4072.96}, {"text": "Heritage Conservation District boundary General includes the area West from Jane Street to the 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suburb design it is an area with a", "start": 4123.96, "end": 4129.4}, {"text": "concentration of Heritage resources that distinguish it from its surroundings and given its multi layered cultural", "start": 4129.4, "end": 4136.52}, {"text": "heritage value it merits designation under part five of the Ontario Heritage act and protection by bylaw and that it", "start": 4136.52, "end": 4143.238}, {"text": "will be conserved for future generations to come next slide", "start": 4143.239, "end": 4149.44}, {"text": "please the work builds upon the hcd study phase recommendations that", "start": 4149.96, "end": 4155.04}, {"text": "indicated that the area is a candidate for designation and the study received endorsement from the Toronto", "start": 4155.04, "end": 4161.238}, {"text": "preservation board in 2018 to develop an hcd plan for Council adoption this study", "start": 4161.239, "end": 4167.88}, {"text": "area for the Heritage Conservation District study was endorsed by the Toronto preservation board in July 2018", "start": 4167.88, "end": 4174.318}, {"text": "at the completion of the first phase of the study the hcd plan phase commenced", "start": 4174.319, "end": 4179.64}, {"text": "in the spring of 2021 and the final htd plan is before the Toronto preservation board today and", "start": 4179.64, "end": 4186.48}, {"text": "will go to the Toronto and East York Community Council on December 4th and and Council December 17th to 19 next", "start": 4186.48, "end": 4194.12}, {"text": "slide please the hcd designates the defined area by", "start": 4194.12, "end": 4201.239}, {"text": "bylaw under part five of the Ontario Heritage act the purpose of the hcd plan", "start": 4201.239, "end": 4206.36}, {"text": "is to manage change in the district to conserve the cultural the area's", "start": 4206.36, "end": 4211.76}, {"text": "cultural heritage value by implementing policies and guidelines the purpose of the hcd plan therefore is not to freeze", "start": 4211.76, "end": 4218.92}, {"text": "the area and time instead it guides change while maintaining the Heritage attributes as the objectives in section", "start": 4218.92, "end": 4225.719}, {"text": "four of the tagon HD plan indicate the purpose is to conserve and maintain the", "start": 4225.719, "end": 4231.199}, {"text": "cultural heritage values of the district as expressed through its Heritage attributes the plan also includes", "start": 4231.199, "end": 4237.44}, {"text": "additional objectives which to name a few include to conserve and enhance the", "start": 4237.44, "end": 4242.6}, {"text": "district's Garden suburb character as a cultural heritage landscape including but not limited to its setting tree", "start": 4242.6, "end": 4250.679}, {"text": "canopy landscape front yards with setbacks and predominance of soft land landscaping and public", "start": 4250.679, "end": 4257.199}, {"text": "real it is also the objective of the plan to manage change to ensure alterations to contributing properties", "start": 4257.199, "end": 4264.12}, {"text": "conserve and maintain the Heritage attributes of the district another objective is to ensure", "start": 4264.12, "end": 4270.199}, {"text": "that new construction additions or alterations conserve and maintain the cultural heritage of of the cultural", "start": 4270.199, "end": 4277.04}, {"text": "heritage values of the district particularly with respect to the archaeological resources burials", "start": 4277.04, "end": 4283.36}, {"text": "historic scale form massing and materials of its contributing properties", "start": 4283.36, "end": 4288.96}, {"text": "pattern of building streetscape and public real finally I'll I'll highlight that um", "start": 4288.96, "end": 4295.08}, {"text": "another objective of the plan is also to ensure that the district's archaeological resources are conserved", "start": 4295.08, "end": 4301.08}, {"text": "respecting their spiritual value to indigenous communities including meaningful engagement with indigenous", "start": 4301.08, "end": 4307.6}, {"text": "communities so that indigenous perspectives May contribute to the understanding of the district's enduring", "start": 4307.6, "end": 4313.6}, {"text": "significance to indigenous communities the content of the hcd plan", "start": 4313.6, "end": 4319.639}, {"text": "is directed by the ontari Heritage act um section 41.1 uh sentence five as noted in the", "start": 4319.639, "end": 4326.08}, {"text": "slide here um the HD plan needs to have a statement explaining the cultural", "start": 4326.08, "end": 4332.04}, {"text": "heritage value identify its Heritage attributes for the district and for properties it needs to have objectives", "start": 4332.04, "end": 4339.08}, {"text": "as I um shared that must be achieved through the policies and guidelines it needs to have", "start": 4339.08, "end": 4344.88}, {"text": "polic IES and guidelines to manage the change in the hcd and it has to have a description of alterations to property", "start": 4344.88, "end": 4351.4}, {"text": "that do not require a Heritage permit as per the anterior Heritage act", "start": 4351.4, "end": 4356.639}, {"text": "at least 25% of properties in the area must also satisfy two or more of the", "start": 4356.639, "end": 4362.48}, {"text": "nine criteria for determining cultural heritage value or interest the hcd study and plan have", "start": 4362.48, "end": 4369.28}, {"text": "been prepared in accordance with provincial legislation and Heritage conservation districts in Toronto", "start": 4369.28, "end": 4374.32}, {"text": "procedures policy in terms of reference from 2012 next slide", "start": 4374.32, "end": 4380.92}, {"text": "please this slideshow uh shows this slide shows an overview of community", "start": 4382.159, "end": 4388.239}, {"text": "engagement um given its enduring significance to indigenous communities", "start": 4388.239, "end": 4393.36}, {"text": "the hcd plan phase of the uh process included direct and meaningful", "start": 4393.36, "end": 4399.239}, {"text": "engagement with indigenous Nations and urban indigenous groups and knowledge Keepers from the start start of the plan", "start": 4399.239, "end": 4406.08}, {"text": "phase in 2021 to the conclusion of the hcd plan the city led the indigenous Nations engagement the hcd plan phase", "start": 4406.08, "end": 4413.76}, {"text": "also included Community consultation with residents uh including two virtual meetings and a community consultation", "start": 4413.76, "end": 4420.4}, {"text": "open housee residents also received two newsletters with updates and information on the project the city with Consultants", "start": 4420.4, "end": 4427.4}, {"text": "Innovation 7 who are a team with expertise in indigenous facilitation and", "start": 4427.4, "end": 4432.52}, {"text": "engagement engage with Urban indigenous community members from October 2023 to April", "start": 4432.52, "end": 4438.239}, {"text": "2024 the HD plan was reviewed by participating First Nations and the HD", "start": 4438.239, "end": 4443.48}, {"text": "plan has now been finalized next slide", "start": 4443.48, "end": 4448.44}, {"text": "please as part of the HD studies phase initial Outreach Heritage planning", "start": 4450.199, "end": 4455.8}, {"text": "received support from six nations of the Grand River and the her and wendat Nation for the development of an hcd in", "start": 4455.8, "end": 4462.48}, {"text": "this area since July 2021 W early on during the plan phase Heritage planning", "start": 4462.48, "end": 4467.96}, {"text": "has been engaging with First Nations and mate communities with rights and interests in the area with continued", "start": 4467.96, "end": 4474.52}, {"text": "involvement from uh the following First Nations who identified interest in", "start": 4474.52, "end": 4479.8}, {"text": "involvement at the outset of the plan phase and continue to provide their perspective and expertise throughout", "start": 4479.8, "end": 4486.36}, {"text": "these are the six nations of the Grand River the Miss sagas of the Credit First Nation and the H and wendat", "start": 4486.36, "end": 4492.76}, {"text": "Nation extensive engagement was undertaken including introduction letters meetings three project updates", "start": 4492.76, "end": 4498.8}, {"text": "circulation and review of all the sections of the document two inperson site visits four technical meetings two", "start": 4498.8, "end": 4505.28}, {"text": "workshops and a closing meeting engagement also informed Heritage planning's ongoing work", "start": 4505.28, "end": 4511.88}, {"text": "programs for the area including a revised historical research along with undertaking of the", "start": 4511.88, "end": 4518.52}, {"text": "stage one archaeological assessment of the tagon archaeologically sensitive area this type of Eng engagement aligns", "start": 4518.52, "end": 4525.92}, {"text": "with the city's vision for reconciliation as articulated in the 2022 reconciliation action plan that was", "start": 4525.92, "end": 4531.96}, {"text": "adopted unanimously by Council in April 2022 next slide", "start": 4531.96, "end": 4538.679}, {"text": "please finally to describe the composition of the Heritage district", "start": 4539.679, "end": 4546.719}, {"text": "there are 222 properties in total of which 169 are contributing and 53 are", "start": 4546.719, "end": 4553.84}, {"text": "identified as non-rib ruting in the hcd plan these includes one these include", "start": 4553.84, "end": 4560.4}, {"text": "one currently listed property on the Heritage register and one part for designated", "start": 4560.4, "end": 4565.84}, {"text": "property at least 75% of the properties in the proposed hcd meet at least two", "start": 4565.84, "end": 4572}, {"text": "criteria of cultural heritage value or interest this concludes staff", "start": 4572, "end": 4577.719}, {"text": "presentation and I will hand it off to dimma cook from evoke to continue with evol's 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such as new structures that require new", "start": 5207.639, "end": 5214}, {"text": "found Foundation below grade um additions major", "start": 5214, "end": 5219.36}, {"text": "landscaping and excavation including those for um below grade private", "start": 5219.36, "end": 5225.28}, {"text": "utilities um and reating and Sal site", "start": 5225.28, "end": 5231.52}, {"text": "alterations for the dis for the landscape in the district um there are", "start": 5237.159, "end": 5242.6}, {"text": "three character zones um Zone one is the upper level which", "start": 5242.6, "end": 5249.239}, {"text": "captures the designed Garden suburb where there's a variety of trees and shrubs that are integrated with the residential", "start": 5249.239, "end": 5255.52}, {"text": "buildings zone two is the sloped former Riverbank that is heavily treed with", "start": 5255.52, "end": 5260.679}, {"text": "mostly uh Native species and zone three is the lower level of the Humber River", "start": 5260.679, 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{"text": "in the in the photograph ornamental stone walls tree canopy is also addressed", "start": 5325.04, "end": 5334.28}, {"text": "um prioritizing the its conservation and avoiding the REM its removal or and", "start": 5334.28, "end": 5340.8}, {"text": "injury to the trees as well as disturbance of the soil um with those", "start": 5340.8, "end": 5346.6}, {"text": "Associated trees new trees requiring soil excavation within the ASA will", "start": 5346.6, "end": 5352.08}, {"text": "require a herriage permit and were relevant in archaeological", "start": 5352.08, "end": 5357.239}, {"text": "assessment the policies and guidelines for parks and public realm follow the same vein as the archaeological in", "start": 5357.96, "end": 5364.28}, {"text": "canopy conservation previously mentioned Additionally the conservation of Vistas are addressed um as well uh", "start": 5364.28, "end": 5373.8}, {"text": "the support of passive recreation in the Parks as well as indigenous engagement", 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and 53 non-contributing", "start": 5471.48, "end": 5478}, {"text": "properties the policies and guidelines for built Heritage resources so these policies um apply", "start": 5478.52, "end": 5487}, {"text": "only to the exterior portions of the property that are visible from the public realm except for alterations that", "start": 5487, "end": 5492.199}, {"text": "may require an archaeological assessment and this is for both non-contributing and contributing", "start": 5492.199, "end": 5499.639}, {"text": "properties for contributing properties alterations and additions should conserve and maintain the district's", "start": 5500.679, "end": 5506.36}, {"text": "cultural heritage value and Heritage attributes this includes conserving", "start": 5506.36, "end": 5511.84}, {"text": "massing roof lines Street proportion threedimensional integrity and repairing instead of", "start": 5511.84, "end": 5517.719}, {"text": "replacing where possible the policies and guidelines um", "start": 5517.719, "end": 5525.32}, {"text": "are also Illustrated to clarify what are for example compatible and incompatible", "start": 5525.32, "end": 5530.679}, {"text": "rear and side additions so for example um compatible", "start": 5530.679, "end": 5538.08}, {"text": "additions would be ones that are subordinate to the um contrib", "start": 5538.08, "end": 5545.08}, {"text": "property and um conserve the setback and roof line of the contributing", "start": 5545.08, "end": 5554.08}, {"text": "property policies and guidelines for non-contributing properties", "start": 5557.84, "end": 5563.56}, {"text": "um there's um are also Illustrated um new construction and", "start": 5563.56, "end": 5569.8}, {"text": "additions should be compatible with the district conserving things like like Rhythm articulation and roof Ridge", "start": 5569.8, "end": 5577.96}, {"text": "height they should not negatively impact the cultural heritage values and Heritage attributes of the", "start": 5577.96, "end": 5586}, {"text": "district for the in implementation portion of the plan the Heritage permit the Heritage for sorry for the", "start": 5589.96, "end": 5596.04}, {"text": "implementation of the plan the Heritage permits will be required except for", "start": 5596.04, "end": 5601.119}, {"text": "minor work um summarized here such as painting temporary signage and", "start": 5601.119, "end": 5609.239}, {"text": "decorations uh tree and utility maintenance building maintenance and", "start": 5609.239, "end": 5615.04}, {"text": "Landscaping provided they do not require um subsurface excavation or grade", "start": 5615.04, "end": 5623.119}, {"text": "changes so that was a summary of the contents of the plan thank you very much for listening to our", "start": 5629.239, "end": 5636.48}, {"text": "presentation today thank you so much DEA and Emily um", "start": 5636.48, "end": 5642.719}, {"text": "because um evoke was the consultant of the city we're going to hold all of the questions for dimma and Emily along with", "start": 5642.719, "end": 5650.36}, {"text": "our questions of Staff after we listen to the other speakers it just keeps things nice and neat that way um and it", "start": 5650.36, "end": 5656.84}, {"text": "gives I think a more fome opportunity so we're going to move to the top of our speakers list which is Mary and Damonte", "start": 5656.84, "end": 5663.719}, {"text": "Wen whan and you have five minutes and I", "start": 5663.719, "end": 5669.08}, {"text": "will gesture wildly when you're close to the end of your time thank you very", "start": 5669.08, "end": 5675.8}, {"text": "much but after you're unmuted can you hear me now absolutely", "start": 5677.32, "end": 5685.119}, {"text": "welcome great thank you good morning chair and members of the Toronto preservation board my name is Maryann", "start": 5685.119, "end": 5692.08}, {"text": "Deonte whan I am chair of the baby Point Heritage Foundation and today I am", "start": 5692.08, "end": 5697.84}, {"text": "resenting I am representing the baby Point Heritage Foundation and its neighborhood members founded in early", "start": 5697.84, "end": 5705.8}, {"text": "2010 the baby Point Heritage Foundation began as a collaboration of neighbors", "start": 5705.8, "end": 5711.48}, {"text": "with common interest in a shared goal to preserve and protect the built Heritage", "start": 5711.48, "end": 5717.199}, {"text": "of this exceptional and unique neighborhood concerned by the potential for demolishing or r Ally modifying the", "start": 5717.199, "end": 5724.88}, {"text": "exterior of homes and streetscape and baby point and catalyzed into action by", "start": 5724.88, "end": 5730.679}, {"text": "the proposed demolition of a Heritage arts and crafts home the group decided to form the baby Point Heritage", "start": 5730.679, "end": 5737.159}, {"text": "Foundation with the view to educate and inform residents and the public of the", "start": 5737.159, "end": 5742.639}, {"text": "heritage of the neighborhood which historically archa archaeologically and", "start": 5742.639, "end": 5749.6}, {"text": "architecturally is significantly to the city of the toron to the city of Toronto to the province of Ontario and to Canada", "start": 5749.6, "end": 5757.04}, {"text": "and all this is explained in detail in the excellent report that the tagon uh", "start": 5757.04, "end": 5762.08}, {"text": "baby Point Heritage Conservation District plan which we have just had a review of and is with which is an", "start": 5762.08, "end": 5768.04}, {"text": "impressive and extensive study and background for the hcd since our incorporation we have", "start": 5768.04, "end": 5775.48}, {"text": "collaborated with Heritage preservation at the city of Toronto on an ongoing basis to achieve the goal of a Heritage", "start": 5775.48, "end": 5782.52}, {"text": "Conservation District for the neighborhood we fully support the proposed recommendation by the senior", "start": 5782.52, "end": 5788.679}, {"text": "manager Heritage planning Urban Design we acknowledge the incredible amount of", "start": 5788.679, "end": 5794.32}, {"text": "work undertaken by staff to bring this forward both with both within the current community and the outre Outreach", "start": 5794.32, "end": 5801.639}, {"text": "to Urban indigenous communities to ensure their support of the designation and are grateful for all the efforts on", "start": 5801.639, "end": 5809.08}, {"text": "this project we recommend that the Toronto preservation board approve the stud designation which has entailed much", "start": 5809.08, "end": 5816.119}, {"text": "work over many years thank you thank you very much do we have any", "start": 5816.119, "end": 5823.6}, {"text": "questions of the speaker seeing none thank you so much", "start": 5823.6, "end": 5829.32}, {"text": "for your time today thank you our speaker is uh Janie", "start": 5829.32, "end": 5837.239}, {"text": "Singh and I don't see them on our", "start": 5842.28, "end": 5847.44}, {"text": "list uh do we have John coin", "start": 5849.8, "end": 5855.158}, {"text": "here seeing not Lisa", "start": 5859.96, "end": 5865.08}, {"text": "DeMarco welcome Lisa you're muted at the moment but I'll use that opportunity to say you've got five minutes thank you", "start": 5865.159, "end": 5872.599}, {"text": "madam chair I do believe John coin was also trying to connect through the phone line system and may be having some", "start": 5872.599, "end": 5878.639}, {"text": "difficulties with that system so in the interim let me proceed if I might Madam", "start": 5878.639, "end": 5883.88}, {"text": "chair I I would through you like to make two points in", "start": 5883.88, "end": 5889}, {"text": "opposition and I will reiterate in opposition to the part five designation", "start": 5889, "end": 5894.92}, {"text": "of the tagon on Bobby Point area as a Heritage Conservation District under the Ontario Heritage act and those two", "start": 5894.92, "end": 5901.8}, {"text": "points are first that the designation should not be granted on the grounds that it is", "start": 5901.8, "end": 5909}, {"text": "entirely antithetical to the transform to climate goals and specific goals for", "start": 5909, "end": 5916.84}, {"text": "2030 and 2040 the second point is that the designation should not be granted as it", "start": 5916.84, "end": 5924.679}, {"text": "is inconsistent with the actions and policies of relevant First Nations and", "start": 5924.679, "end": 5930.04}, {"text": "in particular the hodon and the Missa the Credit First Nation if I might speak", "start": 5930.04, "end": 5936.52}, {"text": "to my first point and that is that the designation is inconsistent with transform", "start": 5936.52, "end": 5942.159}, {"text": "to I would note that the plan itself calls for a 65% reduction in greenhouse", "start": 5942.159, "end": 5950.32}, {"text": "gases by 2030 I will note that we have filed the plan itself with you for your", "start": 5950.32, "end": 5955.599}, {"text": "ease of reference it also calls for Net Zero by", "start": 5955.599, "end": 5961.599}, {"text": "2040 very very significant emission reductions that will only be achieved by", "start": 5961.599, "end": 5968.52}, {"text": "pillars that are identified in the plan three of which are particularly relevant", "start": 5968.52, "end": 5973.719}, {"text": "to this designation the first is in relation to homes and buildings and it", "start": 5973.719, "end": 5978.92}, {"text": "indicates that all new homes and buildings will be designed and built to net near zero and secondly that", "start": 5978.92, "end": 5985.4}, {"text": "greenhouse gas emissions from existing buildings will be cut in", "start": 5985.4, "end": 5990.719}, {"text": "half from 2008 levels by the deadlines in relation to energy", "start": 5990.719, "end": 5997.28}, {"text": "it stipulates that 50% of CommunityWide energy comes from", "start": 5997.28, "end": 6002.44}, {"text": "renewable are low carbon sources and in relation to Transportation it indicates that 30% of", "start": 6002.44, "end": 6010.36}, {"text": "registered Vehicles should be electric all of these changes May in fact require", "start": 6010.36, "end": 6016.52}, {"text": "changes to the building envelope changes to Windows and facades and Associated", "start": 6016.52, "end": 6021.639}, {"text": "Energy Efficiency equipment and thirdly changes to the exterior to accommodate electric vehicle charging", "start": 6021.639, "end": 6028.679}, {"text": "and Associated elements all of these elements are certainly required to meet", "start": 6028.679, "end": 6035.04}, {"text": "those prominent goals of the climate change plan outlined in transformed to", "start": 6035.04, "end": 6040.92}, {"text": "and secondly are not conducive to the restrictions and the associated elements", "start": 6040.92, "end": 6049.48}, {"text": "of the permitting that would be required to rapidly in accordance with the necessary climate", "start": 6049.48, "end": 6055.84}, {"text": "change plans and without delay Implement changes to meet Toronto's climate change", "start": 6055.84, "end": 6063.239}, {"text": "objectives my second point is in relation to the consistency with the", "start": 6063.239, "end": 6069.28}, {"text": "hodon and Mrs Aus of the Credit First Nation plans and policies and in that", "start": 6069.28, "end": 6075.159}, {"text": "regard I have filed each of those plans with you for your ease of reference very", "start": 6075.159, "end": 6080.96}, {"text": "specifically these two entities have been Guardians of the land and the Earth in this area from time Memorial and in", "start": 6080.96, "end": 6089.04}, {"text": "that regard each of their Visions speaks to policies that support ongoing Energy", "start": 6089.04, "end": 6097.48}, {"text": "Efficiency that are consistent with environmental", "start": 6097.48, "end": 6103.159}, {"text": "improvements and that are Dynamic and allow for sustainable", "start": 6103.159, "end": 6109.599}, {"text": "development the restrictions potentially imposed by the plan are neither of those", "start": 6109.599, "end": 6116.719}, {"text": "three things they do not conform to those three elements so as a result in", "start": 6116.719, "end": 6122.159}, {"text": "the last minute that I've got with you I would strongly reiterate our opposition", "start": 6122.159, "end": 6128.239}, {"text": "to the designation and in the alternative should the board plan to", "start": 6128.239, "end": 6135.52}, {"text": "proceed with the designation we would ask for a very clear and express", "start": 6135.52, "end": 6142.36}, {"text": "exemption waiver or carve out for any improvements and developments that are", "start": 6142.36, "end": 6149.48}, {"text": "consistent with the transform to plan and enhanced Energy Efficiency of the", "start": 6149.48, "end": 6155.639}, {"text": "residents thank you those are my submissions thank you very much Lisa do", "start": 6155.639, "end": 6161.4}, {"text": "we have any questions speaker", "start": 6161.4, "end": 6166}, {"text": "Jeff yes um I thank the um the deput for her comments but I'm confused as to why these three", "start": 6168.719, "end": 6178.44}, {"text": "areas that she touched on greenhouse gas uh energy and electric vehicles why they", "start": 6178.44, "end": 6186.159}, {"text": "represent um you know diverging from the intent and the practice of of the plan", "start": 6186.159, "end": 6193.04}, {"text": "seems to me that if you want to put in a electric um charging station on your", "start": 6193.04, "end": 6199.56}, {"text": "property that would probably be considered as a minor um electrical", "start": 6199.56, "end": 6204.92}, {"text": "change you know wouldn't wouldn't affect um in any way it could be permitted as", "start": 6204.92, "end": 6210.76}, {"text": "as a minor thing under the under the permit uh system that is being proposed", "start": 6210.76, "end": 6216.36}, {"text": "but I would I I guess this question should be referred to staff but but my my sense is that it's not um it's not", "start": 6216.36, "end": 6223.199}, {"text": "really an issue here thank you might I resp respond Madam chair", "start": 6223.199, "end": 6228.88}, {"text": "through you yes May thank you Mr Kim I would say that", "start": 6228.88, "end": 6234.239}, {"text": "the repair rather than replace criteria and the facade restrictions May in fact", "start": 6234.239, "end": 6240.599}, {"text": "be violated as a function of installing electric vehicle charging the subsurface", "start": 6240.599, "end": 6247.28}, {"text": "requirements would also be affected and thirdly any building envelope changes to", "start": 6247.28, "end": 6254.159}, {"text": "the facade to increase Energy Efficiency would be restricted under the current plan I will defer of course to the", "start": 6254.159, "end": 6261.28}, {"text": "expert Architects on the m but I believe you're mistaken on that point so I think uh to Jeff's point and", "start": 6261.28, "end": 6268.92}, {"text": "I think probably will um this will be probably a question Revisited as we ask of Staff as well um other questions for", "start": 6268.92, "end": 6276.28}, {"text": "our speaker at this moment Adam you're muted", "start": 6276.28, "end": 6284.04}, {"text": "Adam um thank you it's a comment rather than a question but it's are you", "start": 6284.04, "end": 6289.36}, {"text": "familiar with it's pertinent to um the specific deput do this so um I can wait till the", "start": 6289.36, "end": 6298.119}, {"text": "discussion session but I think that so the point is we let's let's keep it focused if you have", "start": 6298.119, "end": 6304.52}, {"text": "a question under we have lots of time to discuss are there other questions of our", "start": 6304.52, "end": 6311.679}, {"text": "speaker Zing none thank you very much for your time today Lisa um I see that", "start": 6311.679, "end": 6317.48}, {"text": "we've been joined by chanu Singh thank you madam chair", "start": 6317.48, "end": 6323.84}, {"text": "and um tranie are you are you prepared to to", "start": 6325.719, "end": 6335.52}, {"text": "speak hello can you hear me yes you have five", "start": 6335.52, "end": 6342.159}, {"text": "minutes thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak having engaged with over 200 residents in the neighborhood", "start": 6342.159, "end": 6349.199}, {"text": "I'm strongly opposed can you hear me yeah I I'm here to", "start": 6349.199, "end": 6356.599}, {"text": "strongly oppose the proposal to designate baby Point as an hcd here's what I'll outline the historical", "start": 6356.599, "end": 6363}, {"text": "argument is weak relying on symbolic ties without uh tangible Heritage to", "start": 6363, "end": 6368.76}, {"text": "preserved two the Heritage architectural diversity disqualifies it as a cohesive", "start": 6368.76, "end": 6374.28}, {"text": "Heritage district and three the designation threatens the vibrant and inclusive character of baby Point", "start": 6374.28, "end": 6380.56}, {"text": "running counter to Toronto's values of progress and diversity finally I'll propose a better path forward that", "start": 6380.56, "end": 6387.32}, {"text": "honors the past without stifling growth first the historical argument The", "start": 6387.32, "end": 6392.4}, {"text": "Proposal highlights bab Point's connection to the honi Village of tagon let's be clear there are no physical", "start": 6392.4, "end": 6398.639}, {"text": "remnant of this history symbolic gestures have a place but they fail to meet the standards of meaningful", "start": 6398.639, "end": 6404.239}, {"text": "preservation if the city truly wants to honor indigenous history the focus should be on action investing in", "start": 6404.239, "end": 6410.44}, {"text": "initiatives that Empower indigenous voices and preser ve living culture not symbolic references to a history that", "start": 6410.44, "end": 6416.92}, {"text": "has no tangible remnants in baby point today proponents might argue that symbolic references carry legal weight", "start": 6416.92, "end": 6423.52}, {"text": "in the Ontario Heritage act but symbolism without substance or tangible outcomes for the community risks", "start": 6423.52, "end": 6430.719}, {"text": "appearing performative as for baby Point's European history much of the neighborhood's architecture was", "start": 6430.719, "end": 6436.639}, {"text": "developed in the 1940s and well beyond even the tutor style home cited AR", "start": 6436.639, "end": 6442.92}, {"text": "nostalgic imitations of a time that never actually existed here hom Smith's", "start": 6442.92, "end": 6448.32}, {"text": "area homesmith the area's original developer encouraged individuality in construction locking baby Point into", "start": 6448.32, "end": 6455.56}, {"text": "rigid identity that contradicts with very founding principles undermines its authentic Story number two the", "start": 6455.56, "end": 6462.719}, {"text": "architectural argument successful Heritage sites at cabbage Town Thrive because of their architectural cohesion", "start": 6462.719, "end": 6469.4}, {"text": "baby point however is a patchwork of styles in periods with no no unified aesthetic for example 49 badeo Crescent", "start": 6469.4, "end": 6476.88}, {"text": "an art deco home is celebrated in The Proposal but would likely never has been built under the proposed restrictions", "start": 6476.88, "end": 6484.56}, {"text": "its preservation reflects the passion of its owners not regulatory oversite", "start": 6484.56, "end": 6489.76}, {"text": "meanwhile homes like 71 baby Point Crescent or modern architectural marbles", "start": 6489.76, "end": 6495.159}, {"text": "are completely ignored in the study this selective focus undermines the proposed credibility and overlooks baby Point's", "start": 6495.159, "end": 6501.92}, {"text": "real architecture diversity let's be honest baby Bo's architectural significance compared to other", "start": 6501.92, "end": 6507.56}, {"text": "neighborhoods is limited the drive through the Kingsway or Park reveals similarly styled English cottage and", "start": 6507.56, "end": 6513.719}, {"text": "colonial revival homes making baby Point architecture far from unique proponents May argue that the proactive", "start": 6513.719, "end": 6520.32}, {"text": "preservation is necessary to maintain character but the neighborhood has thrived precisely because of its organic", "start": 6520.32, "end": 6526.119}, {"text": "evolution imposing uniformity would stifle the diversity that makes it", "start": 6526.119, "end": 6531.199}, {"text": "special third the Brader implications as someone who has lived in baby point for 30 years I've seen it evolve into a", "start": 6531.199, "end": 6539.199}, {"text": "vibrant living community that reflects Toronto's cultural Mosaic families from all walks of life H have enriched its", "start": 6539.199, "end": 6546.599}, {"text": "character blending the preservation of its charm with new elements that future Generations will value designating baby", "start": 6546.599, "end": 6553}, {"text": "Point as a Heritage District risks freezing this Dynamic growth locking in the neighborhood into a narrow outdated", "start": 6553, "end": 6560.36}, {"text": "identity even more troubling is the perception that this designation is less about preservation and more about", "start": 6560.36, "end": 6566.44}, {"text": "exclusion over the past 15 years more minority and immigrant families have moved into baby Point bringing fresh", "start": 6566.44, "end": 6572.92}, {"text": "perspectiv and energy yet the leadership of the baby Point Heritage Foundation remains homogeneous and their 2025", "start": 6572.92, "end": 6579.599}, {"text": "calendar exclusively highlights a eurocentric colonial narrative with no representation of indigenous or minority", "start": 6579.599, "end": 6586.92}, {"text": "groups who have also helped shape the neighborhood such selective focus raises concerns about whether this proposal is", "start": 6586.92, "end": 6593.159}, {"text": "driven by exclusionary motives under the guise of preservation the implication for Toronto's reputation are significant", "start": 6593.159, "end": 6600}, {"text": "approving this designation could provoke media scrutiny alienate constituents and undermine the city's identity as a", "start": 6600, "end": 6606.239}, {"text": "champion of diversity and inclusion so what do I propose first designate the", "start": 6606.239, "end": 6611.719}, {"text": "baby Point Gates as a Historic Landmark including a plaque to honor the indigenous History Two invest in shared", "start": 6611.719, "end": 6618}, {"text": "spaces like the Humber River Trail or the stairs to the Ravine that have been broken for", "start": 6618, "end": 6623.239}, {"text": "the past five years three collaborate with the diverse community members to ensure baby Point", "start": 6623.239, "end": 6629.8}, {"text": "remains representative of its modern identity in closing baby point is not just a collection of homes it's a or a", "start": 6629.8, "end": 6637.239}, {"text": "remnant of History it's a living breathing neighborhood that reflects the best of Toronto's Evolution thank you", "start": 6637.239, "end": 6644.04}, {"text": "very much honor what truly matters the people the stories and the progress that Define the city thank you very much do", "start": 6644.04, "end": 6651.56}, {"text": "we have any questions of our speaker Adam um the speaker indicates", "start": 6651.56, "end": 6657.32}, {"text": "they um they've lived in the area for over 30 years I I'm hoping and I'd like to ask are you aware of the 1999 2007", "start": 6657.32, "end": 6664.48}, {"text": "incidents with the senica burials that were found during construction process and that artifacts are routinely found", "start": 6664.48, "end": 6671.56}, {"text": "and there was indigenous engagement part of the study I'm just taken by some of these", "start": 6671.56, "end": 6676.88}, {"text": "comments sorry my my phone keeps saying I'm being asked to unmute myself can you hear", "start": 6677.84, "end": 6683.719}, {"text": "me yes we can hear you so first and foremost um there is", "start": 6683.719, "end": 6691.04}, {"text": "little or um if anything in the proposal to celebrate the indigenous Community", "start": 6691.04, "end": 6697.599}, {"text": "this comes off to the uh to constituents who I've spoken to as well as myself as", "start": 6697.599, "end": 6703.84}, {"text": "very much performative in trying to wash away uh Crimes of the past by um", "start": 6703.84, "end": 6710.84}, {"text": "recognizing names as opposed to investing in the living community um so", "start": 6710.84, "end": 6717.84}, {"text": "there has been little or to no interest in uh from Aboriginal groups despite", "start": 6717.84, "end": 6724.079}, {"text": "what was mentioned by these Consultants uh in the neighborhood having lived here", "start": 6724.079, "end": 6729.56}, {"text": "and experienced it there is limited if any interaction", "start": 6729.56, "end": 6736}, {"text": "with Aboriginal communities in this neighborhood or Traditions performed in", "start": 6736, "end": 6741.079}, {"text": "this neighborhood on unless they are residents that are performing them in their own way in the same way that", "start": 6741.079, "end": 6747.8}, {"text": "Indians would celebrate Dali or and others would celebrate Quanza and", "start": 6747.8, "end": 6753.84}, {"text": "whatnot thank you very much are there other questions of this speak I I see you Lisa but I'm sorry your time has has", "start": 6753.84, "end": 6760.48}, {"text": "has passed um for session can I make a comment because I live in baby Point I've lived there for 20 years no Mr", "start": 6760.48, "end": 6767.28}, {"text": "mcfadin you are up next on the on the speakers list okay minutes", "start": 6767.28, "end": 6774.44}, {"text": "Adam I um you know I'll leave it to the to the discussion session thank you", "start": 6775.48, "end": 6781}, {"text": "thank you very much um any other", "start": 6781, "end": 6786.599}, {"text": "questions seeing none we have David", "start": 6786.599, "end": 6792.719}, {"text": "mcfaden y you have five minutes okay great thank you um so I appreciate that", "start": 6792.92, "end": 6799.28}, {"text": "a lot of work has gone into this uh potential designation but I've lived in baby Point since 2000", "start": 6799.28, "end": 6805.92}, {"text": "so I've lived there for 25 years and I definitely oppose this designation given", "start": 6805.92, "end": 6812.04}, {"text": "the following first of all all the renovations have improved the beauty of the", "start": 6812.04, "end": 6817.36}, {"text": "neighborhood uh secondly the renovations and development of the homes have all increased the property values limiting", "start": 6817.36, "end": 6824.679}, {"text": "development limits property values and therefore limits the wealth of property owners given the home is typically", "start": 6824.679, "end": 6831.199}, {"text": "someone's largest asset three increasing property values actually benefits the city through", "start": 6831.199, "end": 6838.04}, {"text": "higher property taxes so inhibiting property development only hurts potential tax income for the", "start": 6838.04, "end": 6845.04}, {"text": "city four there are already lots of rules and limits to development in place", "start": 6845.04, "end": 6851.52}, {"text": "now that people are required to seek approval of and often you have to go to", "start": 6851.52, "end": 6857.4}, {"text": "a committee of adjustment which is what I did when I renovated my home five", "start": 6857.4, "end": 6863.28}, {"text": "there are absolutely no signs at all of any indigenous past none and yes I am", "start": 6863.28, "end": 6869.719}, {"text": "aware of a ren a home that was being renovated and they found um some remains", "start": 6869.719, "end": 6874.92}, {"text": "of IND of an indigenous uh person but that could happen anywhere in Toronto so", "start": 6874.92, "end": 6880.56}, {"text": "we might as well designate all of Toronto as indigenous and seek all of Toronto's development with indigenous", "start": 6880.56, "end": 6886.92}, {"text": "people could happen anywhere so to say that baby point is this", "start": 6886.92, "end": 6893.32}, {"text": "indigenous uh you know special Community it's absurd in my opinion I've lived", "start": 6893.32, "end": 6898.8}, {"text": "there for 25 years there are no signs at all of any indigenous class", "start": 6898.8, "end": 6904}, {"text": "none that's all I have to say thank you very much do we have any", "start": 6904, "end": 6909.96}, {"text": "questions for this speaker Paul thank you madam chair my my first", "start": 6909.96, "end": 6917.76}, {"text": "question is um does the speaker have any the speaker maintains the that this", "start": 6917.76, "end": 6922.84}, {"text": "reduces property values and I would ask is there any actual evidence of that the", "start": 6922.84, "end": 6929.32}, {"text": "last uh you know um uh studies that I'm aware of on property values and Heritage", "start": 6929.32, "end": 6935.599}, {"text": "designation are a little old mid 20000s but uh and they were done at the", "start": 6935.599, "end": 6940.639}, {"text": "University of waterl and they found no um evidence of any detriment uh to", "start": 6940.639, "end": 6947.079}, {"text": "property values and uh certainly my observation from looking at the MLS ads", "start": 6947.079, "end": 6953.159}, {"text": "is Realtors are are quite able uh and willing to uh feature Heritage", "start": 6953.159, "end": 6959.4}, {"text": "designations uh there are some in MLS listings right now and home Smith is", "start": 6959.4, "end": 6964.719}, {"text": "actually uh a label that Realtors love to put on on properties uh when they", "start": 6964.719, "end": 6971}, {"text": "when they come on the market so I I would question is there actually any evidence that property values are are", "start": 6971, "end": 6978}, {"text": "bothered well I don't have any evidence but when you're going to start to limit what someone can do to their", "start": 6978, "end": 6984.639}, {"text": "property uh that's in effectively limiting the potential value of the", "start": 6984.639, "end": 6990}, {"text": "property and if someone has a property that you have so-called designated as a", "start": 6990, "end": 6996}, {"text": "Heritage Property let them let them choose to just leave it the way it is and if they think it's going to increase", "start": 6996, "end": 7002.199}, {"text": "results in a higher value then great for them but uh we shouldn't be imposing all", "start": 7002.199, "end": 7007.639}, {"text": "these restrictions on people's property and let them do whatever the heck they want with the property and uh you know", "start": 7007.639, "end": 7013.159}, {"text": "they'll they'll if if it's Heritage and they think it's going to go up in value because of that then so be it they they", "start": 7013.159, "end": 7018.84}, {"text": "they'll keep it as such but if you look at baby point the development of baby point it's not like we're knocking down", "start": 7018.84, "end": 7024.8}, {"text": "all these buildings all the time and totally redesigning the neighborhood it it looks pretty much the same the whole", "start": 7024.8, "end": 7030.36}, {"text": "time but at least people have the freedom and the right to do what they want with their", "start": 7030.36, "end": 7036.56}, {"text": "property thank you very much do we have other questions of the speaker Paul and then Adam Paul sorry", "start": 7036.56, "end": 7044.4}, {"text": "you're you're muted sry thank you if I could ask one more uh you say there are no signs of of", "start": 7044.4, "end": 7051.88}, {"text": "indigenous interest in the area I just wonder if you ever walk through uh ATN brulee Park uh where there are quite", "start": 7051.88, "end": 7059}, {"text": "often signs uh erected some of them ad hoc uh by various indigenous persons or", "start": 7059, "end": 7065.679}, {"text": "groups uh reminding people of the indigenous presence in in the area I've certainly seen those signs I'm wondering", "start": 7065.679, "end": 7072}, {"text": "if if you have so i' I've walked through at intim Brule Park many many many times uh I", "start": 7072, "end": 7078.92}, {"text": "have not seen those signs if you want to put up some signs in baby points saying this was a indigenous Community fine I", "start": 7078.92, "end": 7086.52}, {"text": "have no problem with that but limiting the development of someone's home that have a big problem with thank you very", "start": 7086.52, "end": 7092.92}, {"text": "much Adam do you still have a question yes I do um sir how do you uh view the hcd as restricting you further than the", "start": 7092.92, "end": 7099.159}, {"text": "pre-existing trca restrictions on your properties well I've been following your", "start": 7099.159, "end": 7104.48}, {"text": "presentation and uh it's quite obvious you know you I saw these uh diagrams", "start": 7104.48, "end": 7111.76}, {"text": "okay well if you have if you have this kind of property we're we're only going to let you add this if you have this", "start": 7111.76, "end": 7116.8}, {"text": "we're we're only going to let you change that like it's it's someone's house let them let them do what what they want with it", "start": 7116.8, "end": 7123.96}, {"text": "and and and just look at the past look at look at Baypoint just go through the neighborhood like it's beautiful people", "start": 7123.96, "end": 7130.679}, {"text": "are not knocking down homes all the time and completely redesigning it like they're keeping the Integrity of the", "start": 7130.679, "end": 7136.719}, {"text": "neighborhood the way it is as as is we don't need any more rules regulations and government overreach we have enough", "start": 7136.719, "end": 7142.28}, {"text": "rules as it is if you want to make a big change you have to go to Committee of adjustment that's okay that's fine and", "start": 7142.28, "end": 7147.88}, {"text": "you have to get the consent of your neighbors too by the way I had to get the consent of all my neighbors around", "start": 7147.88, "end": 7152.92}, {"text": "me before I made an addition to my home and everybody was okay with it like that's a good process we don't need", "start": 7152.92, "end": 7159.599}, {"text": "anymore we don't need more regulation thank you very much any other", "start": 7159.599, "end": 7166.079}, {"text": "questions seeing none I think that's the end of our speakers list so thank you", "start": 7166.159, "end": 7171.28}, {"text": "very much for everybody taking Julia I just wanted to interject I think um our missing Speaker John coin has joined by", "start": 7171.28, "end": 7178.599}, {"text": "phone we did a little bit of investigating while the speaking was happening so if John is", "start": 7178.599, "end": 7186.48}, {"text": "around we're g to try to unmute him on our end to see if that might solve some", "start": 7187.719, "end": 7192.96}, {"text": "of the audio", "start": 7192.96, "end": 7196.56}, {"text": "issues oh we saw something I believe when we", "start": 7209.4, "end": 7216.56}, {"text": "try to unmute John it um says it sent a request to unmute so maybe on John's and", "start": 7216.56, "end": 7222.159}, {"text": "there might have to be an additional unmute give it a few more seconds", "start": 7222.159, "end": 7229.96}, {"text": "here I appreciate the time that all of the speakers have taken out of their days to join us so thank you very", "start": 7230.88, "end": 7238.76}, {"text": "much I think much luck Madam", "start": 7242.199, "end": 7248.84}, {"text": "chair mad Madam chair it's John oh hi John you", "start": 7249.199, "end": 7255.96}, {"text": "have thank you thank you very much for your time and I'm sorry that my telephone did not um accommodate the", "start": 7255.96, "end": 7263.48}, {"text": "requirements here I've listen very carefully to the very presentation from", "start": 7263.48, "end": 7269.679}, {"text": "the staff I appreciate question Lisa demro mute Lisa this a", "start": 7269.679, "end": 7276}, {"text": "feedback coming from your system I'm using system", "start": 7276, "end": 7282.719}, {"text": "we hearing double of you at the moment this out does that does that help", "start": 7284.079, "end": 7291.28}, {"text": "hello this is the host speaking I'm so sorry to interrupt John I'm wondering if you could maybe just oh great you've", "start": 7291.28, "end": 7297.56}, {"text": "dropped the other number that's dropped the other line thank you very much so much Madam chair I apologize for the delay and the inconvenience and I", "start": 7297.56, "end": 7303.8}, {"text": "appreciate again the um uh the excellent work done by the staff and the questions from your uh fellow members um I would", "start": 7303.8, "end": 7311.599}, {"text": "like to register my opposition to this proposal at this time uh it is entirely", "start": 7311.599, "end": 7317.56}, {"text": "unclear to me that the justification and need for this proposal has been established in addition to the other", "start": 7317.56, "end": 7324.92}, {"text": "restrictions and regulations which already attend to ownership of property", "start": 7324.92, "end": 7330.52}, {"text": "in this particular area and I comment in particular on the archaeology and the Landscaping features associated with", "start": 7330.52, "end": 7337.76}, {"text": "this neighborhood so at the beginning I would say that that is uh an", "start": 7337.76, "end": 7343.119}, {"text": "inappropriate extension of regulatory Authority which is entirely unclear to", "start": 7343.119, "end": 7348.599}, {"text": "me how it will be implemented I do believe that the proposal will inhibit the development and economic", "start": 7348.599, "end": 7354.199}, {"text": "improvements and property evolutions and growth in this neighborhood all of which", "start": 7354.199, "end": 7359.44}, {"text": "I believe are attempted to be done in a very positive way and as one of the speakers um spoke to earlier is already", "start": 7359.44, "end": 7367.719}, {"text": "subject to Neighborhood approval a series of approvals with the TRC a through the committee of adjustments and", "start": 7367.719, "end": 7374.119}, {"text": "so on in order to pro pro pro preserve Heritage and characteristics in this", "start": 7374.119, "end": 7380.36}, {"text": "neighborhood I think that this proposal will add an appropriate and unknown costs and delays to Property Management", "start": 7380.36, "end": 7387}, {"text": "maintenance and Improvement whether that's in relation to how it is that people manage their properties from a", "start": 7387, "end": 7392.04}, {"text": "climate point of view or from an architectural or Property Maintenance point of view and I'm not sure that I", "start": 7392.04, "end": 7397.92}, {"text": "see any corresponding Heritage offsets that would just ify such inappropriate", "start": 7397.92, "end": 7403.96}, {"text": "and unknown costs and delays I also believe in support of one of the earlier", "start": 7403.96, "end": 7409.76}, {"text": "speakers that this proposal represents an unreasonable interference with the property rights of res residents in this", "start": 7409.76, "end": 7417.199}, {"text": "designated area as opposed to other areas and once again I cannot see an", "start": 7417.199, "end": 7423.8}, {"text": "appropriate set of Heritage issues and characteristics that would offset that", "start": 7423.8, "end": 7430.32}, {"text": "additional characteristic so the requirements with respect to archaeology whether it's in the trca the", "start": 7430.32, "end": 7437.96}, {"text": "re the Ravine protections or the committee of adjustment restrictions all of which add to the character of this", "start": 7437.96, "end": 7445.92}, {"text": "particular neighborhood but also provide an appropriate set of existing and", "start": 7445.92, "end": 7451.44}, {"text": "predictable restrictions to property ownership in this era area I do believe", "start": 7451.44, "end": 7457.76}, {"text": "that from an indigenous point of view there is an entirely appropriate set of engagements and uh Communications that", "start": 7457.76, "end": 7465.92}, {"text": "would be entirely appropriate and that this neighborhood undoubtedly has and", "start": 7465.92, "end": 7471.079}, {"text": "will support in order to reflect the archaeological Heritage of the indigenous peoples but I don't believe", "start": 7471.079, "end": 7478.48}, {"text": "that this Heritage designation is an appropriate vehicle for doing so so thank you very much for your time and I", "start": 7478.48, "end": 7483.96}, {"text": "appreciate uh your engagement on this issue thank you very much do we have any questions for", "start": 7483.96, "end": 7492.28}, {"text": "Adam you are mut uh thank you madam chair um same", "start": 7496.559, "end": 7502.76}, {"text": "question as to the previous speaker how do you feel the hcd um differs from the existing trca restrictions on the", "start": 7502.76, "end": 7509.239}, {"text": "properties I don't I I thank you for the question I think that was you Adam um I'm not sure that it is um uh", "start": 7509.239, "end": 7516.639}, {"text": "conflicting with it I'm just resistant to additional restrictions which don't", "start": 7516.639, "end": 7521.84}, {"text": "seem to have any meaningful value associated with the additional restriction we already have an", "start": 7521.84, "end": 7529.679}, {"text": "extraordinary amount of restrictions on our properties well and and and I could say this if I lived in a lot of other", "start": 7529.679, "end": 7535.559}, {"text": "neighborhoods not just this particular neighborhood and it is entirely unclear to me that the Heritage designation in", "start": 7535.559, "end": 7541.88}, {"text": "this area would add sufficient value to offset the uncertainty associated with that", "start": 7541.88, "end": 7547.88}, {"text": "designation thank you very much other questions Adam can you give us an example please of", "start": 7547.88, "end": 7553.92}, {"text": "these other restrictions uh I think I spoke to those earlier the archaeological restrictions", "start": 7553.92, "end": 7560.599}, {"text": "that are imposed by the trca the committee of adjustment restrictions on uh significant property developments the", "start": 7560.599, "end": 7567.4}, {"text": "landscape restrictions that are already in place with respect to Ravine Protections in this area they're", "start": 7567.4, "end": 7573.36}, {"text": "numerous and those are just three that I would comment on thank you very much other", "start": 7573.36, "end": 7578.88}, {"text": "questions Adam oh you let's discussion thank you thank you very much uh", "start": 7578.88, "end": 7586.4}, {"text": "Mitchell yeah I just wanted to ask what you meant by the uncertainties that you", "start": 7586.4, "end": 7591.84}, {"text": "think this uh doign lead to in terms of I I assume developing your property yeah", "start": 7591.84, "end": 7598.88}, {"text": "and and and let's be clear I have no current intention to develop my property so I am this is not a self-interested", "start": 7598.88, "end": 7606.239}, {"text": "comment I I will say that the uncertainty um view has to do with ever", "start": 7606.239, "end": 7612.119}, {"text": "always having to ask permission to do certain activities and the more people you have to ask and the more uncertain", "start": 7612.119, "end": 7619.36}, {"text": "or vague the restrictions are that could potentially be imposed on property", "start": 7619.36, "end": 7626.079}, {"text": "owners uh gives a rise to that uncertainty by definition and since we already have a", "start": 7626.079, "end": 7632.88}, {"text": "very clear set of rules associated with how people manage their properties", "start": 7632.88, "end": 7638.52}, {"text": "whether that's the exterior or the interior of their property it's entirely unclear to me that this further", "start": 7638.52, "end": 7644.719}, {"text": "designation will indeed justify itself or indeed provide", "start": 7644.719, "end": 7651}, {"text": "any certainty to homeowners thank you very much any", "start": 7651, "end": 7658.239}, {"text": "others thank you very much for your time today John we're going to move back into questions of uh staff um and by", "start": 7658.239, "end": 7667.04}, {"text": "extension consultants and I'm going to lead off", "start": 7667.04, "end": 7673.079}, {"text": "and ask and then I will get to everybody else um is there a difference between", "start": 7673.079, "end": 7678.8}, {"text": "restrictions and guidelines and what does itail like what what is what is I I", "start": 7678.8, "end": 7685.199}, {"text": "think this is an important very um to to have so if if some", "start": 7685.199, "end": 7690.48}, {"text": "clarification could be given is is it supposed to be restrictive the hcd or is", "start": 7690.48, "end": 7695.96}, {"text": "it meant to be a guideline for change through the chair that'll go to", "start": 7695.96, "end": 7702.28}, {"text": "that question will go to dimma she could please answer thank you what the objectives of the hcd are", "start": 7702.28, "end": 7709.84}, {"text": "to provide guidance on how to manage change in the district so we speak to um", "start": 7709.84, "end": 7717.76}, {"text": "information on how to do additions to buildings information on how to change um the exteriors of", "start": 7717.76, "end": 7723.76}, {"text": "buildings uh on Windows on rooms on porches so the it's not to restrict", "start": 7723.76, "end": 7730.159}, {"text": "change and to prevent some somebody from doing any change to their property but it's to provide a framework into which", "start": 7730.159, "end": 7737.4}, {"text": "that change occurs so that the overall impact so that the character of the", "start": 7737.4, "end": 7742.679}, {"text": "overall area and neighborhood is retained so there are um there are these", "start": 7742.679, "end": 7749.76}, {"text": "guidelines and policies that um provide instruction on how to manage the change", "start": 7749.76, "end": 7757.04}, {"text": "of the property thank you very much are there other questions now of of Staff I'm", "start": 7757.04, "end": 7764}, {"text": "gonna go with Mitchell and then Adam um thank you through you madam", "start": 7764, "end": 7769.599}, {"text": "chair um are there any restrictions or are there any guidelines or or", "start": 7769.599, "end": 7776.079}, {"text": "restrictions on uh that would limit anyone's ability to upgrade the uh the", "start": 7776.079, "end": 7783.559}, {"text": "envelope of their building or create a more sustainable home uh one that is lower energy or anything like that I", "start": 7783.559, "end": 7790.32}, {"text": "know that was a concern uh of quite a few people uh no in fact I think the", "start": 7790.32, "end": 7798.679}, {"text": "district is supportive of um upgrades to the neighborhood and recognize like certainly we recognize um the importance", "start": 7798.679, "end": 7805.48}, {"text": "of um sustainability uh so there the changes to the interior of the house are", "start": 7805.48, "end": 7811.28}, {"text": "completely allowed under this District under the policies in the district so upgrading to the insulation of a", "start": 7811.28, "end": 7817.44}, {"text": "building is completely permissible um adding um Electrical uh outlets for", "start": 7817.44, "end": 7824.159}, {"text": "electric cars which was brought up is also um permissible um so then I would", "start": 7824.159, "end": 7829.639}, {"text": "not say that there's anything in the existing policies that would actually prevent somebody from improving the", "start": 7829.639, "end": 7835.52}, {"text": "performance of their house it does provide um an overarching guidelines as the Avenues of how that can be pursued", "start": 7835.52, "end": 7842.36}, {"text": "and improved but if one were to increase the insulation in the roof of a property that is absolutely allowed as well as", "start": 7842.36, "end": 7849.36}, {"text": "any interior improvements that would impact the insallation of the walls thank you very much Adam you were next", "start": 7849.36, "end": 7856.679}, {"text": "can oh I I have sorry but can I ask a question like can I be added to the que to ask a question no I'm sorry sir", "start": 7856.679, "end": 7863.32}, {"text": "you're that this is this is the time when the board asks questions of staff and we try and pull in what we've heard", "start": 7863.32, "end": 7869.84}, {"text": "from our speakers um and and and direct it as well so thank much so the speakers", "start": 7869.84, "end": 7874.92}, {"text": "can ask questions of the staff only the staff can ask questions the panel the preservation", "start": 7874.92, "end": 7881.36}, {"text": "board and the members can only ask questions of staff at this point Thank you", "start": 7881.36, "end": 7888.719}, {"text": "Adam I have three or four questions of staff I will try to handle these one at a time um I thank every I thank the", "start": 7888.719, "end": 7896.199}, {"text": "staff and all the speakers for both the the very valuable presentation and their um comments and questions today um the", "start": 7896.199, "end": 7903.36}, {"text": "first is could we have um a somebody from staff please just briefly mention", "start": 7903.36, "end": 7908.679}, {"text": "the heritage tax rebate program I there some comment from one of the speakers I think there's some uncertainty there", "start": 7908.679, "end": 7913.84}, {"text": "that they're going to have to pay out of pocket for additional costs I'm not quite sure how they're conceptualizing", "start": 7913.84, "end": 7919.599}, {"text": "this particularly but if someone could speak to the heritage tax rebate uh that would be greatly", "start": 7919.599, "end": 7926.599}, {"text": "helpful well thanks Adam uh this area once designated under part five the", "start": 7926.599, "end": 7932.36}, {"text": "owners will be eligible to participate in our heritage grant program uh which", "start": 7932.36, "end": 7937.44}, {"text": "offers um monies on a yearly basis to um", "start": 7937.44, "end": 7942.88}, {"text": "to support costs related to exterior restoration or changes um so and uh as", "start": 7942.88, "end": 7949.92}, {"text": "this District moves forward we would inform the residents about those deadlines and dates and um our desire is", "start": 7949.92, "end": 7958.159}, {"text": "to be supportive of anyone who is within a Conservation District you Adam just I know you have", "start": 7958.159, "end": 7965.4}, {"text": "three or four I'm just going to make sure that everybody has a chance before we get to number two other questions all", "start": 7965.4, "end": 7972.52}, {"text": "right take it oh Alex yes just a quick question to you madam chair how about solar panels on", "start": 7972.52, "end": 7980.159}, {"text": "roofs has that been considered something that came to my", "start": 7980.159, "end": 7986.04}, {"text": "mind that was reviewed and is something we did consider the area is heavily um", "start": 7986.04, "end": 7993.159}, {"text": "treed and in fact um in our review of you could put solar panels on the back", "start": 7993.159, "end": 7999.119}, {"text": "of your house without any um restrictions because we don't regulate the htd will not regulate changes to the", "start": 7999.119, "end": 8005.639}, {"text": "rear that are not visible from the public realm but in fact if we look at tree coverage in the area the", "start": 8005.639, "end": 8011.639}, {"text": "effectiveness of solar panels um would not actually be um they in fact would", "start": 8011.639, "end": 8017.28}, {"text": "not be effective thank Youk I'm gonna do Adam question number", "start": 8017.28, "end": 8022.44}, {"text": "two and then I saw your hand Mitchell as well Adam um okay thank you um thank you", "start": 8022.44, "end": 8028.559}, {"text": "madam Sher I'm wondering if staff could speak a bit about the indigenous engagement process uh behind this study", "start": 8028.559, "end": 8034.599}, {"text": "I could think of a number of events recently know there's a walking tour with the indigenous engagement there are", "start": 8034.599, "end": 8039.88}, {"text": "a number of indigenous engagement sessions this area had some of the first Nish language Heritage plaques in all of", "start": 8039.88, "end": 8045.719}, {"text": "Canada um also there was recently the indigenous Leed 70th Anniversary ceremony of Hurricane Hazel in the h", "start": 8045.719, "end": 8052.239}, {"text": "River to stop to speak a bit more about the indigenous engagement components and why this area still has value as an", "start": 8052.239, "end": 8057.639}, {"text": "indigenous site that'd be hugely appreciated", "start": 8057.639, "end": 8061.96}, {"text": "certainly through the chair um there in fact there were as you can", "start": 8063.28, "end": 8070.92}, {"text": "see uh explained in section one of the Heritage District plan um the the process has been described in the", "start": 8070.92, "end": 8077.84}, {"text": "document itself um as well as the staff report um there has been indigen", "start": 8077.84, "end": 8084.159}, {"text": "indigenous Nation engagement City Le um that was um that took place since the", "start": 8084.159, "end": 8092.4}, {"text": "early um start of the plan phase July 2021 um this was uh undertaken with uh", "start": 8092.4, "end": 8100.159}, {"text": "rights holding Nations uh the six nations of the Grand River Miss sagas of the credit Nation here in wet Nation", "start": 8100.159, "end": 8106.159}, {"text": "were the Nations that expressed interest and involvement um that included uh", "start": 8106.159, "end": 8112.199}, {"text": "extensive engagement um introduction letters followed by meetings project", "start": 8112.199, "end": 8118.119}, {"text": "updates uh we did do to in person and site visits um the the the whole process", "start": 8118.119, "end": 8126.679}, {"text": "uh finished with a closing meeting with um great support from from the Nations", "start": 8126.679, "end": 8133.679}, {"text": "participating we heard uh very moving words um from uh six nations of the", "start": 8133.679, "end": 8140.96}, {"text": "Grand River um that we have listened um we really the city really um took it", "start": 8140.96, "end": 8149.36}, {"text": "seriously the the process and um uh the listening learning and applying to uh", "start": 8149.36, "end": 8157.119}, {"text": "the document what we've heard um further to that um the city with Innovation 7", "start": 8157.119, "end": 8164.679}, {"text": "which is a consultant uh specializing in uh indigenous facilitation um we reached out to the", "start": 8164.679, "end": 8172.239}, {"text": "urban indigenous community members and uh we met uh virtually we also met um on", "start": 8172.239, "end": 8180.44}, {"text": "site and and also uh very uh generally positive response and um uh being happy", "start": 8180.44, "end": 8189.159}, {"text": "to have been included in the conversation and what we heard generally is a greater understanding of um", "start": 8189.159, "end": 8197.319}, {"text": "especially uh the the landscape uh indigenous con uh connection to na", "start": 8197.32, "end": 8203.719}, {"text": "nature and uh the ancestors that uh are linked to to the area it's deeply", "start": 8203.719, "end": 8210.24}, {"text": "meaningful to all indigenous communities that uh we heard", "start": 8210.24, "end": 8215.678}, {"text": "from thank you very much Mitchell yes I just wanted to ask a", "start": 8215.679, "end": 8221.319}, {"text": "clarifying question um I understand the site and the the neighborhood has been identified in Toronto's um", "start": 8221.32, "end": 8228.08}, {"text": "archaeological master plan as an area having archaeological potential and so I", "start": 8228.08, "end": 8233.439}, {"text": "wanted to clarify whether it was the hcd plan itself that's triggering additional archaeological requirements or if those", "start": 8233.44, "end": 8239.96}, {"text": "would have been required in any case um I understand there are required in things like minor variance applications", "start": 8239.96, "end": 8245.92}, {"text": "consent applications um because it's in that area so just wondering if there's any additional", "start": 8245.92, "end": 8252.8}, {"text": "requirements I can take that question Cecilia I was just gonna say sorry um thanks uh through the chair um", "start": 8259.44, "end": 8268.319}, {"text": "the you're correct that the neighborhood of uh where the tagon babby Point Heritage Conservation District plan um", "start": 8268.32, "end": 8275.319}, {"text": "is located is also the location of the tagon archaeologically sensitive area", "start": 8275.32, "end": 8281.518}, {"text": "and uh that has been in place for about 15 or 20 years um and it recognizes that", "start": 8281.519, "end": 8289.12}, {"text": "uh there are uh there are nine separate indigenous archaeological sites that", "start": 8289.12, "end": 8294.2}, {"text": "have been registered um with the ministry of citizenship and multiculturalism uh both on the upper", "start": 8294.2, "end": 8299.76}, {"text": "Plateau as well as on the lower table lands um three of those archaeological sites were registered with the province", "start": 8299.76, "end": 8306.08}, {"text": "in the 1970s uh based on historical records however the other six sites have", "start": 8306.08, "end": 8311.96}, {"text": "been registered within the last 25 years including one registered uh within the", "start": 8311.96, "end": 8318.399}, {"text": "residential area uh the upper Plateau just in 2023 so uh there has uh it's been", "start": 8318.4, "end": 8326.319}, {"text": "demonstrated that interventions in the area which involve soil disturbance could present a risk to archaeological", "start": 8326.32, "end": 8333.719}, {"text": "resources uh as well as ancestral remains that we know um are still extent", "start": 8333.719, "end": 8339.08}, {"text": "in the landscape um this is uh these registered archaeological sites represent uh resources that are still", "start": 8339.08, "end": 8346.28}, {"text": "present in the neighborhood um and uh so through the archaeological management", "start": 8346.281, "end": 8351.518}, {"text": "plan we have uh the opportunity to ensure that those resources are appropriately conserved when alterations", "start": 8351.519, "end": 8357.719}, {"text": "to properties are proposed um and so those requirements are already in place and what is achieved uh through the", "start": 8357.719, "end": 8364.319}, {"text": "Heritage Conservation District plan is uh some consistency and some clarity", "start": 8364.32, "end": 8369.439}, {"text": "around those requirements thank you very much you ad", "start": 8369.44, "end": 8374.598}, {"text": "do you have another question and I see you Kash um thank you madam chair um I have", "start": 8374.599, "end": 8383.04}, {"text": "three more questions my apologies I had five instead of four um if K has a question he I welcome him", "start": 8383.04, "end": 8391.24}, {"text": "to ask it first Le may it back and forth you ask number three we'll break it up", "start": 8391.24, "end": 8397.8}, {"text": "Wonder okay can you uh could staff speak to the process behind uh Trees and", "start": 8397.8, "end": 8403.6}, {"text": "Landscaping within this htd specifically how they Envision that or how that is being envisioned and how that would work", "start": 8403.6, "end": 8410}, {"text": "from a policy perspective are each is each tree designated as part of a property is there an inventory", "start": 8410, "end": 8416.08}, {"text": "associated with the listing like if you have a Black Oak in your front yard or an Elm in your front yard is it linked", "start": 8416.08, "end": 8421.56}, {"text": "to that property um just trying to get a sense because this is the first htd where I've seen trees specifically", "start": 8421.56, "end": 8426.96}, {"text": "flagged as part of the uh legislative capaces that do allow", "start": 8426.96, "end": 8432.6}, {"text": "that I can speak to that um trees are not trees are not individually listed or", "start": 8432.6, "end": 8439.24}, {"text": "designated um but they are considered as a whole Heritage attributes in the district so the trees that are visible", "start": 8439.24, "end": 8445.6}, {"text": "on the from the front Lawns the significant trees as well as the overall tree canopy um in terms of applications", "start": 8445.6, "end": 8454.08}, {"text": "for changes or alterations that involve trees the tree and Ravine protection", "start": 8454.08, "end": 8459.319}, {"text": "regulations still apply within the district so that is not something that this hcd um overrules or changes um but", "start": 8459.319, "end": 8468.16}, {"text": "when we look at impacts to a property or changes um to uh alterations to a", "start": 8468.16, "end": 8474.2}, {"text": "property that may involve um the removal of trees or the alteration of trees we", "start": 8474.2, "end": 8480.2}, {"text": "are looking looking now at the impact of that removal of the tree on the overall tree canopy and on the landscape", "start": 8480.2, "end": 8486.24}, {"text": "character of the area and we are also critically considering um the the hcd", "start": 8486.24, "end": 8492.319}, {"text": "critically considers a soil disturbance which may trigger archaeological um implications so anything that involves", "start": 8492.319, "end": 8499.2}, {"text": "removal of a tree or cutting the tree and removing the tree from the ground will have archaeological potential", "start": 8499.2, "end": 8506.08}, {"text": "triggers and then as well the reciprocity if you're removing a tree and your um you need to plant a tree", "start": 8506.08, "end": 8512.08}, {"text": "according to the tree bylaws then the planting of a tree would also trigger um", "start": 8512.08, "end": 8517.64}, {"text": "an archaeological review because it also involves some significant soil disturbance thank you", "start": 8517.64, "end": 8526.399}, {"text": "K through you madam sh um and great thanks for the staff's investigation um", "start": 8526.399, "end": 8533.8}, {"text": "my question is to pursue Alex question is um is there any guidelines to you", "start": 8533.8, "end": 8539.28}, {"text": "know for energy saving change uh that can have impact on the facade um to", "start": 8539.28, "end": 8546.52}, {"text": "decrease termar brides and stuff like that uh is there any guidelines to see", "start": 8546.52, "end": 8553.28}, {"text": "and observe these changes for the energy saving", "start": 8553.28, "end": 8558.68}, {"text": "chains I I just mean that they had the impact on the", "start": 8558.68, "end": 8564.119}, {"text": "facade I'm not sure I understand the question for example like being changing windows and uh you know that may help", "start": 8564.24, "end": 8573.04}, {"text": "you know the houses to be more energy saver and uh to reduce the energy", "start": 8573.04, "end": 8579.12}, {"text": "consumption maybe they have some changes in the windows or you know in the some", "start": 8579.12, "end": 8585}, {"text": "places in the facade that may have some uh that should see some changes that", "start": 8585, "end": 8592}, {"text": "should be obvious in the facade the hcd does not require um or", "start": 8592, "end": 8600.04}, {"text": "impose um improvements to energy envelope or Windows as part of the policies and", "start": 8600.04, "end": 8606.88}, {"text": "guidelines it does speak in general and this again is only for facades", "start": 8606.88, "end": 8612.24}, {"text": "elevations that are visible from the public realm it does um for contributing properties um encourage the maintenance", "start": 8612.24, "end": 8620.08}, {"text": "of the existing openings um and the existing Rhythm of the windows uh and um", "start": 8620.08, "end": 8629.479}, {"text": "but it does not oblige um changes that would oblige uh", "start": 8629.479, "end": 8635.64}, {"text": "somebody to replace their windows with better performing Windows that's not within the remit of the hcd so they can", "start": 8635.64, "end": 8641.96}, {"text": "have Chang in you know replace the windows for example the insulated one I think yes the review of the", "start": 8641.96, "end": 8650}, {"text": "windows under the policies is based on their existing condition and upgrade so there are many ways to actually improve", "start": 8650, "end": 8655.6}, {"text": "the performance of your windows um not just um plainly replacing them um so", "start": 8655.6, "end": 8662.319}, {"text": "from a carbon perspective it's actually often better to repair your windows and at a c sash or storm window to improve", "start": 8662.319, "end": 8668.96}, {"text": "its performance because it's actually much more beneficial from a carbon perspective um in terms of conservation", "start": 8668.96, "end": 8674.64}, {"text": "because if we're looking at um carbon and uh being cognizant of our greenhouse", "start": 8674.64, "end": 8682.12}, {"text": "gas emissions that is a huge factor in it so the hcd can requires people to", "start": 8682.12, "end": 8688.88}, {"text": "look at their Windows look at their condition looking at looking at how they can be upgraded and then offers many paths and", "start": 8688.88, "end": 8694.88}, {"text": "avenues as to how that can be achieved thank you thank you very much Adam next", "start": 8694.88, "end": 8702.399}, {"text": "one next one okay thank you H thank you madam chair", "start": 8702.399, "end": 8708.08}, {"text": "um if we could get please uh from staff a bit more clarification about the tree", "start": 8708.479, "end": 8713.6}, {"text": "canopy being designated I I try to get a sense here of how that's being inventoried how it's being interpreted", "start": 8713.6, "end": 8720.2}, {"text": "uh if you have for example a um a storm comes through and your tree comes and blocks your driveway do you need a", "start": 8720.2, "end": 8726.319}, {"text": "permit to remove that for a Heritage permit rather than a general one also um there was a dichotomy mentioned in the", "start": 8726.319, "end": 8732.479}, {"text": "study between um a pro or even in this presentation today you could have a non-contributing property with", "start": 8732.479, "end": 8739.08}, {"text": "contributing features part of the landscape so even if the building does not have um it is not identified as a", "start": 8739.08, "end": 8745.279}, {"text": "contributing property it is still possible for the gardens and the trees to be I'm just trying to get a sense of", "start": 8745.279, "end": 8750.479}, {"text": "that is going to be entered within the system how that's going to be tracked um the city of Toronto has a her tree", "start": 8750.479, "end": 8757.84}, {"text": "program that has never actually designated anything uh in terms of like individual trees or tree canopies my", "start": 8757.84, "end": 8763.359}, {"text": "understanding please correct me if I'm", "start": 8763.359, "end": 8766.641}, {"text": "wrong um yeah uh through the chair I'm happy to um start answering this question and", "start": 8769.68, "end": 8777}, {"text": "um evoke can can chime in as well um so", "start": 8777, "end": 8782.08}, {"text": "section 11 of the Heritage District plan includes um a list of permits that are", "start": 8782.08, "end": 8790.12}, {"text": "uh deemed permits as required in the uh Ontario Heritage act um and and in there", "start": 8790.12, "end": 8797.96}, {"text": "um one starts to see the distinction um Adam mentioned in the event of of an", "start": 8797.96, "end": 8804.279}, {"text": "emergency basically a tree falls down um so that that essentially um", "start": 8804.279, "end": 8811.16}, {"text": "uh falls into a certain category that it says here in the event of an imminently hazardous tree cutting down and uring of", "start": 8811.16, "end": 8818.92}, {"text": "that tree is permitted however any ground disturbance such as removal of a stump will require a Heritage permit um", "start": 8818.92, "end": 8825.56}, {"text": "so it's it's um it's working together with uh the tree bylaws in the", "start": 8825.56, "end": 8832.08}, {"text": "city um to address uh different situations like that um pruning pruning", "start": 8832.08, "end": 8838.439}, {"text": "is is part of maintaining maintaining a health of the tree so uh that's also a", "start": 8838.439, "end": 8843.96}, {"text": "deem permit um so I hope that that answers that that part of the question", "start": 8843.96, "end": 8851.84}, {"text": "um so section 11 is very helpful in in that regard um in regards to Adam", "start": 8851.84, "end": 8858.72}, {"text": "mentioned how will the tree canopy be inventoried um the tree canopy has not", "start": 8858.72, "end": 8864.84}, {"text": "been inventoried for this Heritage District plan um so it's it's seen as is", "start": 8864.84, "end": 8871.359}, {"text": "um what's there and um and and that's it I don't know if if vul would like to add", "start": 8871.359, "end": 8877.439}, {"text": "to that through the chair thank you I could add that perhaps because I think", "start": 8877.439, "end": 8882.52}, {"text": "part of the question is how does one then track and assess the tree canopy", "start": 8882.52, "end": 8887.8}, {"text": "and as part of any um program or permit that would be required to change a tree or moove a tree an arborist report is", "start": 8887.8, "end": 8894.52}, {"text": "required as part of the existing regulations and one of the things the arborus would have to do is part of", "start": 8894.52, "end": 8899.96}, {"text": "their their assessment is assess the impact of the removal of a tree or addition of a tree on that tree canopy", "start": 8899.96, "end": 8906.279}, {"text": "so that is the tool that would be used to assess impact on a tree caning thank you very much ready for", "start": 8906.279, "end": 8914.92}, {"text": "question five there there was an clarification on", "start": 8914.92, "end": 8921.92}, {"text": "that last one I'm still hoping to get I want to preference this with I've been in dialogue with Edith George um and a few other people she's in dialogue with", "start": 8921.92, "end": 8928.479}, {"text": "the attendant Governor we're all trying to figure out the is trees thing um the dichotomy between that non", "start": 8928.479, "end": 8934.399}, {"text": "non-contributing and contributing again that's uh how is that going to look for", "start": 8934.399, "end": 8939.6}, {"text": "the residents in this District every property in this", "start": 8939.6, "end": 8946.96}, {"text": "neighborhood is going to be designated so whether you're", "start": 8946.96, "end": 8952}, {"text": "contributing or non-contributing you will be part of like the property's part of the part five designation So within", "start": 8952, "end": 8957.52}, {"text": "the plan all the policies app app to the properties so when it comes to landscape", "start": 8957.52, "end": 8963}, {"text": "and archaeology any change to a property is under those sections and when it comes", "start": 8963, "end": 8968.96}, {"text": "to building and built form changes are on the would be under the non-contributing policies the plan", "start": 8968.96, "end": 8975.72}, {"text": "recognizes that the land and the soil that the houses are on um spans the", "start": 8975.72, "end": 8981.12}, {"text": "whole area and the whole district and that the characteristics of the district as a garden suburb so its landscape", "start": 8981.12, "end": 8987.52}, {"text": "features its trees it's its Garden are all critical to its overall", "start": 8987.52, "end": 8993.479}, {"text": "character and have been valued by both the community and Indigenous communities", "start": 8993.479, "end": 8998.92}, {"text": "and so we that's how the the um so your landscape contributes the overall", "start": 8998.92, "end": 9004.56}, {"text": "streetcape um the overall um character of the neighborhood and that's where the", "start": 9004.56, "end": 9009.6}, {"text": "distinction lies so I I don't know if that clarifies it but if you're if somebody is deemed", "start": 9009.6, "end": 9014.96}, {"text": "non-contributing it's their house their physical building that is the non-contributing element um but the", "start": 9014.96, "end": 9022.279}, {"text": "policies they would have to look to are still the archaeological policies if their property is deemed to have potential as well as the landscape", "start": 9022.279, "end": 9029.479}, {"text": "impact um that any changes they do to their property would have on the overall character of The", "start": 9029.479, "end": 9036.24}, {"text": "District thank you I just wanted to yes just to give a", "start": 9036.24, "end": 9041.56}, {"text": "clarification that um there are um um just just a note to sort of say this is", "start": 9041.56, "end": 9048.399}, {"text": "about a district um and um I know that Edith and others have done remarkable", "start": 9048.399, "end": 9054.52}, {"text": "work about the uh idea of individual rare species trees um in this in this", "start": 9054.52, "end": 9062.56}, {"text": "district there is one that is a Heritage tree otherwise this isn't a concept of a Heritage tree this is about landscape", "start": 9062.56, "end": 9070}, {"text": "for a district I hope that H helps to answer your your your thoughts and", "start": 9070, "end": 9075.08}, {"text": "certainly we could have another uh conversation um not related to this District plan about such matters to give", "start": 9075.08, "end": 9082.8}, {"text": "clarification we'd be happy to do that offline another time thank you Adam one more question um thank you", "start": 9082.8, "end": 9091.479}, {"text": "Tamar and and certainly I'll take you up on that offer for that conversation because I know there's some uncertainties around um how this is", "start": 9091.479, "end": 9097.52}, {"text": "framed within the Ontario Heritage act but um just more broadly wonder if this an opportunity for Heritage planning to", "start": 9097.52, "end": 9104.52}, {"text": "uh connect with trca and maybe have an information session for the residents here because there's a lot of overlaps", "start": 9104.52, "end": 9110.68}, {"text": "um for properties with those restrict with those policies and guidelines and also perhaps as an opportunity for um", "start": 9110.68, "end": 9117.6}, {"text": "some funding from any level of government for archaeological or liar related investigations but perhaps if", "start": 9117.6, "end": 9123.96}, {"text": "Heritage planning would be beli to connect with TRC and a bit more detailed and talk to the residents that may allay some", "start": 9123.96, "end": 9129.439}, {"text": "concerns don't you think there I got a question for you um are there other", "start": 9129.439, "end": 9135.279}, {"text": "questions of our speakers of of sorry of Staff of staff", "start": 9135.279, "end": 9141.84}, {"text": "if I if I may answer uh Adam's non-question question with a statement", "start": 9143.52, "end": 9149.64}, {"text": "um which is to say that we are available to answer any question of any Resident", "start": 9149.64, "end": 9155.96}, {"text": "who needs clarification whether they are here at this meeting or uh want to contact us at", "start": 9155.96, "end": 9162.84}, {"text": "any time I want to point out that because of the postal strike uh staff actually went out and delivered hand", "start": 9162.84, "end": 9169.88}, {"text": "delivered the notices to ensure that everybody had an opportunity to consider and to be here at this meeting uh we're", "start": 9169.88, "end": 9177.439}, {"text": "grateful for all the comments and the participation it doesn't end here um a", "start": 9177.439, "end": 9182.68}, {"text": "lot of um concerns about Heritage conservation districts are are", "start": 9182.68, "end": 9188.08}, {"text": "fear-based and we will do everything that we can to uh to help people", "start": 9188.08, "end": 9194.319}, {"text": "understand what is required and not required um and we have appre", "start": 9194.319, "end": 9199.76}, {"text": "appreciated all the participation thus far so just an open invitation to", "start": 9199.76, "end": 9206.359}, {"text": "clarify thank you are there other questions of", "start": 9206.359, "end": 9211.398}, {"text": "Staff seeing none thank you very very much thank you for being here thank you for this tremendous tremendous piece of", "start": 9212.08, "end": 9219.56}, {"text": "work in the undertaking um this is no small feat and um all of the varying ARs", "start": 9219.56, "end": 9226.04}, {"text": "and Consultants working together it's it's it's it's it's wonderful thank you do we have discussion amongst", "start": 9226.04, "end": 9233.521}, {"text": "ourselves hello Adam I see okay um for I", "start": 9233.68, "end": 9240.16}, {"text": "heard a lot of concerns around uh you know having an existing building from the early 20th century late 19 century", "start": 9240.16, "end": 9246.04}, {"text": "and bringing it up to energy and conservation standards um I'd encourage people look at the Gemini Project at 31", "start": 9246.04, "end": 9252.24}, {"text": "Sussex by the University of Toronto and tmu they took a solid masonry Victorian home and completely modernized it while", "start": 9252.24, "end": 9259.84}, {"text": "retaining the Heritage features uh state-of-the-art run by a computer now um but looks like a Victorian home so it", "start": 9259.84, "end": 9265.479}, {"text": "is possible and that was done about 10 years ago so I imagine the technolog evolved even further", "start": 9265.479, "end": 9271.96}, {"text": "now and there's lots of subsidies marvelous um no that's a great", "start": 9271.96, "end": 9278.479}, {"text": "one you know good Heritage and environmentalism I think are are good", "start": 9278.479, "end": 9284.04}, {"text": "companions um Mitchell yeah I I mean I just have uh coms for the rest of the", "start": 9284.04, "end": 9291.359}, {"text": "panel um but I I I think we heard a few misconceptions about Heritage programs", "start": 9291.359, "end": 9297.479}, {"text": "today in in some concerns so hopefully some of the discussion will Le them that there's really not a restriction on", "start": 9297.479, "end": 9305.04}, {"text": "achieving um sustainability targets there there is an opportunity to upgrade buildings and get them to a higher", "start": 9305.04, "end": 9311.6}, {"text": "performance level um and also in in terms of achieving uh uh sustainability", "start": 9311.6, "end": 9318.359}, {"text": "goals just by its nature in uh sort Pro prohibiting demolition it aids in", "start": 9318.359, "end": 9325.439}, {"text": "avoiding emissions for replacement buildings and like another aspect of sustainability um even property values", "start": 9325.439, "end": 9332.68}, {"text": "and and I've seen a more recent study that actually says that property value stay the same or rise relative to", "start": 9332.68, "end": 9338.439}, {"text": "properties around them which is is I mean I think hopeful for for all these", "start": 9338.439, "end": 9343.76}, {"text": "for owners who are concerned about that um and then uh sort of same thing with", "start": 9343.76, "end": 9349.52}, {"text": "with with maintenance costs it doesn't actually doesn't actually increase the cost of Maintenance Place additional", "start": 9349.52, "end": 9355.08}, {"text": "burden uh for requirements of Maintenance and there's brains so", "start": 9355.08, "end": 9360.16}, {"text": "hopefully all of that kind of helps a bit thank you other other other", "start": 9360.16, "end": 9368.358}, {"text": "discussions no we have a yes Adam you're muted I need to get a sign", "start": 9370.16, "end": 9376.6}, {"text": "today just to raise it you're muted oh um wonderful um I I'd encourage everyone", "start": 9376.6, "end": 9382.96}, {"text": "to uh keep their ears out for the upcoming um Miss Saga of the credit project for getting the Humber River", "start": 9382.96, "end": 9389.359}, {"text": "personhood for the international year of the water next year this is a very big project coming from um from then s is", "start": 9389.359, "end": 9396.2}, {"text": "for the thank you we have Rogue", "start": 9396.2, "end": 9404.04}, {"text": "unmuted there we go uh we have a staff Report with recommendations before us", "start": 9404.04, "end": 9410.319}, {"text": "oh hello Mary wait a second you're muted sorry sorry to interject up", "start": 9410.319, "end": 9418.24}, {"text": "through the chair at this inappropriate moment but I need to clarify something that I said I said that we had to hand", "start": 9418.24, "end": 9424.399}, {"text": "deliver notices in this area for this hcd in fact the notices were able to get out before the postal strike um hand", "start": 9424.399, "end": 9431.96}, {"text": "delivering happened on other projects and hand delivering also happened through the newsletters uh in the past", "start": 9431.96, "end": 9437.72}, {"text": "just wanted to be absolutely sure uh given that um you know these are recorded So that that's that's the", "start": 9437.72, "end": 9444.64}, {"text": "clarification thank you for staff uh for for setting me on the right path thank", "start": 9444.64, "end": 9450.96}, {"text": "you all right we have a staff Report with recommendations before us who would care", "start": 9450.96, "end": 9457.56}, {"text": "to would anybody care to move the recommendations in the report I", "start": 9457.56, "end": 9463.08}, {"text": "will all those in favor motion carries thank you very much", "start": 9463.08, "end": 9471.8}, {"text": "okay so we have a few more items it is 1208 I have great faith in us but what", "start": 9471.8, "end": 9480.04}, {"text": "I'm going to ask we're GNA definitely go past 12:30 so I think I would like to do the motion to extend past 12:30 now", "start": 9480.04, "end": 9486.96}, {"text": "while we have a little pause and then um bear with me as we sort of move through", "start": 9486.96, "end": 9492.439}, {"text": "the next few items and I will make a call at some point in the next 30 minutes as to whether we need to break", "start": 9492.439, "end": 9498.64}, {"text": "for lunch or whe we can do it and just power through um and then you have the afternoon so that", "start": 9498.64, "end": 9505.439}, {"text": "is that is the game plan so I'm going to ask clerks if we could put the motion on the screen for", "start": 9505.439, "end": 9513.399}, {"text": "extending thank you that the preserv Toronto preservation board extend the meeting past the scheduled 12:30 pm", "start": 9513.76, "end": 9520.56}, {"text": "lunch recess to complete the agenda I will move the motion all those", "start": 9520.56, "end": 9526.88}, {"text": "in favor motion carries so bear with me because I know", "start": 9526.88, "end": 9534.279}, {"text": "everybody gets a little bit hungry too so just we we'll see how we'll see how things sort of flow we're gonna move on", "start": 9534.279, "end": 9540.399}, {"text": "to PB 25.7 the West Queen West Heritage Conservation", "start": 9540.399, "end": 9548.2}, {"text": "District Welcome Poria the floor is yours uh good afternoon everyone and", "start": 9549.88, "end": 9555.92}, {"text": "members of the board my name is pori and I'm senior Heritage planner with the", "start": 9555.92, "end": 9561.64}, {"text": "Heritage planning policy and research team my colleague Emma doens and I will", "start": 9561.64, "end": 9566.84}, {"text": "be presenting item PB 25.7 designation of the West Queen West", "start": 9566.84, "end": 9572.319}, {"text": "Heritage Conservation District plan under part five of the Ontario Heritage act next", "start": 9572.319, "end": 9579.64}, {"text": "please the West Queen West area is characterized by a high concentration of", "start": 9582.68, "end": 9588.2}, {"text": "late 19s and early 20th century commercial buildings which contribute to", "start": 9588.2, "end": 9593.92}, {"text": "its history character and cultural significance the CD plan area includes", "start": 9593.92, "end": 9599}, {"text": "all properties fronting onto Queen Street West from bers to doin streets", "start": 9599, "end": 9605.359}, {"text": "next", "start": 9605.359, "end": 9607.721}, {"text": "please the Wen V city is bordered by the Queen Street West to the East and the", "start": 9610.56, "end": 9616.92}, {"text": "park Del Main Street hcd to the West West West Green West is a unique and", "start": 9616.92, "end": 9622.56}, {"text": "vibrant area cherished by torontonians and serves as a popular tourist", "start": 9622.56, "end": 9627.76}, {"text": "destination it features a high concentration of Heritage buildings that collectively form continuous Heritage of", "start": 9627.76, "end": 9634.72}, {"text": "Street walls and the area is characterized by a distinctive Street pattern including", "start": 9634.72, "end": 9641.68}, {"text": "several T intersections along Queen Street West Queen West showcases narrow retail front", "start": 9641.68, "end": 9648.76}, {"text": "ages with Dynamic commercial uses at ground level these fine grain front ages", "start": 9648.76, "end": 9654.84}, {"text": "contribute to a very highly pedestrian friendly environment next", "start": 9654.84, "end": 9661.6}, {"text": "please in June 2017 Heritage planning completed an exidus study for the area", "start": 9662.88, "end": 9668.8}, {"text": "from passers to rones Avenue and following this the Toronto preservation", "start": 9668.8, "end": 9674.52}, {"text": "board endorsed the recommendation to proceed from the study phase to the plan", "start": 9674.52, "end": 9679.64}, {"text": "phase resulting in the creation of two separated City plans for the west west", "start": 9679.64, "end": 9685}, {"text": "area from bers to doin and the paral Main Street area from doing to Jameson", "start": 9685, "end": 9691.279}, {"text": "in December 2020 Council adopted the Heritage planning staff report recommending the inclusion of", "start": 9691.279, "end": 9698.8}, {"text": "325 properties in the area from bers to transes FS on the city's Heritage", "start": 9698.8, "end": 9705.76}, {"text": "register of these 215 properties are are located within the West Queen West area", "start": 9705.76, "end": 9712.279}, {"text": "next please Heritage planning staff also work", "start": 9712.279, "end": 9718.319}, {"text": "worked uh collaboratively with Comm planning and Urban Design on the", "start": 9718.319, "end": 9723.479}, {"text": "planning study for the area between bers and brones Wells which led to the", "start": 9723.479, "end": 9728.76}, {"text": "development of official plan amendment number 445 Opa 445 was adopted by Council in", "start": 9728.76, "end": 9737.08}, {"text": "September 2020 and came into force in November", "start": 9737.08, "end": 9742.76}, {"text": "2023 the par Del Main Street at CD uh was adopted by Council in July 2022 and", "start": 9742.76, "end": 9750.88}, {"text": "came into force in June 2024 during uh 2024 Heritage planning", "start": 9750.88, "end": 9758.04}, {"text": "continued developing the West Queen West City plan and organized several public", "start": 9758.04, "end": 9763.72}, {"text": "consultation events to finalize the plan I provide more details about the", "start": 9763.72, "end": 9769.2}, {"text": "Community consultation process in the following slides next", "start": 9769.2, "end": 9775}, {"text": "please under part five uh of the Ontario Heritage act municipalities are enabled", "start": 9775.399, "end": 9782}, {"text": "to establish Heritage conservation districts all properties within an hcd", "start": 9782, "end": 9787.84}, {"text": "are designated under part five of The Heritage act section 41.1 of the", "start": 9787.84, "end": 9794.04}, {"text": "Heritage act outlines the requirements for an hcd plan the City plan must", "start": 9794.04, "end": 9800.04}, {"text": "include a statement of objectives a statement of cultural heritage value of the district a description of the", "start": 9800.04, "end": 9806.8}, {"text": "Heritage attributes policy statements guidelines and procedures for achieving", "start": 9806.8, "end": 9812}, {"text": "the district's objectives and a description of alterations uh considered", "start": 9812, 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{"text": "development in Toronto with most of its buildings constructed between the 1880s", "start": 9973.68, "end": 9979.76}, {"text": "and 1920s the district also has a rich tradition of community and Civic", "start": 9979.76, "end": 9986.04}, {"text": "activity supported by Landmark buildings next", "start": 9986.04, "end": 9991.439}, {"text": "please section three of the plan also includes a list of Heritage attributes", "start": 9991.439, "end": 9996.92}, {"text": "that Define the district and some key examples include the historic Ministry", "start": 9996.92, "end": 10002.6}, {"text": "character characterized by a continuous Street wall and fine grain build form", "start": 10002.6, "end": 10007.76}, {"text": "then narrow lot from vages their rear Lane ws and T intersections which", "start": 10007.76, "end": 10013.359}, {"text": "contribute to the district's distinctive uh pattern a variety of", "start": 10013.359, "end": 10020}, {"text": "commercial building typologies include 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please", "start": 10154.64, "end": 10160.239}, {"text": "as a result of the high number of commercial properties in the district there are obviously many commercial storefronts present at street level", "start": 10160.239, "end": 10167.76}, {"text": "collectively their recessed entrances create a rhythm along the streetscape and their sign bands create data blinds", "start": 10167.76, "end": 10174.88}, {"text": "across the street walls the hcd plan identifies two very simple categories of storefronts there", "start": 10174.88, "end": 10181.279}, {"text": "are historic and non-historic the policies and guidelines are provided for", "start": 10181.279, "end": 10186.399}, {"text": "each category to ensure their appropriate treatment the presence of an historic storefront at street level is a", "start": 10186.399, "end": 10192.84}, {"text": "defining feature of the commercial building typology and is also recognized as one of the district's attributes the", "start": 10192.84, "end": 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{"text": "illustrating their High concentration within the district the hcd includes a", "start": 10411.12, "end": 10416.2}, {"text": "total of 330 properties of which 239 have been identified as contributing and", "start": 10416.2, "end": 10423.04}, {"text": "91 as non-contributing next slide please", "start": 10423.04, "end": 10429.358}, {"text": "this slide provides examples of contributing properties which are highlighted in green and non-contributing properties highlighted", "start": 10429.479, "end": 10436.08}, {"text": "in Gray the contributing non-contributing classification forms the basis of our policies and guidelines", "start": 10436.08, "end": 10442.84}, {"text": "in the plan the policies recognize that a higher standard of conservation must be applied to contributing properties", "start": 10442.84, "end": 10449.12}, {"text": "because they are historic resources and with that segue I will pass the presentation back to Poria who", "start": 10449.12, "end": 10455.279}, {"text": "will review those policies and guidelines thank you Emma next slide", "start": 10455.279, "end": 10462.8}, {"text": "please uh as Emma mentioned the HD plan classifies properties as contributing", "start": 10465.08, "end": 10471.279}, {"text": "and non-contributing chapter six of the plan includes a specific policies and", "start": 10471.279, "end": 10477.279}, {"text": "guidelines for contributing properties as you can see in this slide this chapter includes 18 subsections covering", "start": 10477.279, "end": 10484.88}, {"text": "different aspects such as conservation individually designated Heritage properties under part four demolition", "start": 10484.88, "end": 10492.319}, {"text": "removal and relocation restoration alteration massing roofs and other", "start": 10492.319, "end": 10498.239}, {"text": "sections next please the massing policies have been", "start": 10498.239, "end": 10504.6}, {"text": "developed to provide guidance on how new developments can be 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10557.6}, {"text": "of new development on non-contributing properties including replacement buildings additions or operations must", "start": 10557.6, "end": 10565.479}, {"text": "comply with the policies and guidelines outlined in chapter seven of the plan", "start": 10565.479, "end": 10570.52}, {"text": "non-contributing properties can be demolished and replaced with new developments provided they align with", "start": 10570.52, "end": 10576.96}, {"text": "the pl objectives and requirements next please the hcd plan outlines a specific", "start": 10576.96, "end": 10584.88}, {"text": "requirements for new development on non-contributing properties new development must be compatible with the", "start": 10584.88, "end": 10592.319}, {"text": "design scale maing and form of adjacent contributing properties for developments taller than adjacent contributing", "start": 10592.319, "end": 10599.16}, {"text": "properties a minimum 5 m step back is required this policy aims to conserve", 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historic notes Street escape and Lane", "start": 10654.12, "end": 10661.52}, {"text": "ways views and gateways and public art this section also includes guidelines", "start": 10661.52, "end": 10667.72}, {"text": "Direct the recognition and interpretation of indigenous Heritage", "start": 10667.72, "end": 10672.88}, {"text": "through the design and redesign of public spaces next", "start": 10672.88, "end": 10680.319}, {"text": "please the last sections I'll be talking about are procedures and appendices the", "start": 10680.72, "end": 10687.399}, {"text": "C plan describes the Heritage permit process including categories of work that do not require a Heritage permit", "start": 10687.399, "end": 10695.64}, {"text": "the index of contributing properties and and list of non-contributing properties have been provided provided in", "start": 10695.64, "end": 10703.399}, {"text": "appendices in appendix d a detailed statement of contribution for each", "start": 10703.399, "end": 10709.16}, {"text": "contributing property has been developed next slide", "start": 10709.16, "end": 10715.239}, {"text": "please Heritage planning staff are of the opinion that the West invested CD", "start": 10715.239, "end": 10720.76}, {"text": "plan meets the requirements of the alterior Heritage act it is in Conformity with the Heritage act", "start": 10720.76, "end": 10726.8}, {"text": "provincial planning statement official plan policies and best practices in", "start": 10726.8, "end": 10732.08}, {"text": "Heritage planning Heritage planning staff therefore recommended the ignation of the West Queen West hcd under part", "start": 10732.08, "end": 10739.479}, {"text": "five of the Ontario Heritage act including the adoption of the hcd plan by ba in closing I'd like to extend my", "start": 10739.479, "end": 10748}, {"text": "sincere thanks to the community members and stakeholders who support it and contributed to the development of the", "start": 10748, "end": 10754.96}, {"text": "West invest CD this includes the working group group members local advisory", "start": 10754.96, "end": 10760.04}, {"text": "committee Bia board members indigenous communities the sunnide historical", "start": 10760.04, "end": 10765.72}, {"text": "society and many others whose efforts made this plan possible thank", "start": 10765.72, "end": 10772.68}, {"text": "you thank you very very much it's a very impressive piece of work um we have one", "start": 10772.68, "end": 10779.239}, {"text": "speaker on this item mua", "start": 10779.239, "end": 10784.279}, {"text": "Pasha hi madam um Madam chair I have a presentation may I may I", "start": 10786.6, "end": 10792.72}, {"text": "present you you you may I will ask the C to to to to give you that ability um you", "start": 10792.72, "end": 10800}, {"text": "still have only five minutes okay I'll try to be fast thank you otherwise I I just cut you off all right thank you", "start": 10800, "end": 10808.279}, {"text": "here you go can you see the slide deck oh you can okay great um so I I I", "start": 10808.279, "end": 10816.2}, {"text": "was part of the Beaconsfield uh resident Association we did provide some feedback", "start": 10816.2, "end": 10821.239}, {"text": "and so um there's in the proposed AC ACD plan for uh Queen Street West there's", "start": 10821.239, "end": 10827.52}, {"text": "lack still lack sufficient protections to ensure that is a proper uh hcd um in", "start": 10827.52, "end": 10833.64}, {"text": "my opinion and many others it deviates from traditional Heritage protection practices which I'll outline in the next", "start": 10833.64, "end": 10839.56}, {"text": "couple of slides um it still risks modern developments that will overwhelm", "start": 10839.56, "end": 10845.6}, {"text": "uh the district's historical identity um and so uh heds should serve as guard", "start": 10845.6, "end": 10851.72}, {"text": "rails for developers and there isn't enough uh protections that will preserve the Queen Street Street West Heritage", "start": 10851.72, "end": 10858.88}, {"text": "for the next 100 100 years or whatever it might be in my opinion this is this", "start": 10858.88, "end": 10865.08}, {"text": "will convert into a which is really across all of Toronto you can uh if anyone would just travels around toron", "start": 10865.08, "end": 10872.16}, {"text": "can see is that it's really a facade Conservation District not a Heritage Conservation District", "start": 10872.16, "end": 10879.92}, {"text": "this slide really kind of summarizes other hcds around the world New York Green wch Village Boston San Francisco", "start": 10884.2, "end": 10891.68}, {"text": "where I live for many many years Paris Edinburgh Amsterdam Venice Barcelona uh", "start": 10891.68, "end": 10897.56}, {"text": "and then it compares to what the polls was um from the PDF that we received in", "start": 10897.56, "end": 10903.239}, {"text": "uh in the summer and I'm just going to focus on the top three rows strict height limit 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my recommendation is that we need to have an absolute High cap in order to to actually have a true hcd uh", "start": 10997.84, "end": 11006.439}, {"text": "designation from an international perspective this is something that I pass by twice a week uh every week um", "start": 11006.439, "end": 11013.76}, {"text": "this is on Queen Street West U and this I'm not sure exactly what the setbacks", "start": 11013.76, "end": 11018.88}, {"text": "and exact height is but this could this is really in my opinion the future um", "start": 11018.88, "end": 11025}, {"text": "you know in the next couple years with this these provisions because developers still can develop they can purchase", "start": 11025, "end": 11030.439}, {"text": "these these developments and um and quite frankly you can walk around the city and you can see example after", "start": 11030.439, "end": 11037.2}, {"text": "example of Heritage buildings where developments that do not conform with the look and feel of the the building", "start": 11037.2, "end": 11043.2}, {"text": "are built and it looks ridiculous quite frankly there's no other way of saying it I don't see any other city in the", "start": 11043.2, "end": 11049.88}, {"text": "developed world that does what Toronto does and um and so we really need to", "start": 11049.88, "end": 11056.08}, {"text": "have no setbacks for roof additions uh Clause I think 62.7 does allow that with", "start": 11056.08, "end": 11061.92}, {"text": "these type of specific require uh you know Provisions um I mean think about it", "start": 11061.92, "end": 11068.2}, {"text": "90% of the structure if it's Glass Tower any kind of concrete and 10% is a", "start": 11068.2, "end": 11073.88}, {"text": "historical facade is that really historical preservation to me it's facade preservation that's what Toronto", "start": 11073.88, "end": 11079.64}, {"text": "does very well um and again you look look at the granular uh definitions of", "start": 11079.64, "end": 11085.399}, {"text": "what HDs do across Venice and burough and other cities they do provide very", "start": 11085.399, "end": 11091.52}, {"text": "strict um you know restrictions on what can be built on top of these Heritage buildings and so my recommendation is", "start": 11091.52, "end": 11098.08}, {"text": "either to eliminate the setbacks or you know require that any kind of rooftop", "start": 11098.08, "end": 11103.8}, {"text": "expansions can should be invisible from the street level and public view um and", "start": 11103.8, "end": 11110.319}, {"text": "that will help to ensure that the district continues to have historical character moving forward we don't want", "start": 11110.319, "end": 11116.84}, {"text": "to have a situation what's that you're at five minutes okay just uh one comment we want we don't", "start": 11116.84, "end": 11123.56}, {"text": "want a situation 200 years from now where someone says what came first the historical facade or that glass tower", "start": 11123.56, "end": 11130}, {"text": "that concrete building behind it so thank you thank you very much thank you for your presentation and your time with", "start": 11130, "end": 11136.56}, {"text": "us today are there questions of our speaker ad um thank you madam chair um", "start": 11136.56, "end": 11145.52}, {"text": "Mr Speaker are you aware of the uh opa 445 it covers a lot of the subjects of what you just described in terms of", "start": 11145.52, "end": 11151.76}, {"text": "height storefront LD no I'm not no Opa 445 is the official", "start": 11151.76, "end": 11157.6}, {"text": "plan Amendment for Queen Street between Bathurst and Rons veils it covers this hcd I'd encourage you looking at", "start": 11157.6, "end": 11163.72}, {"text": "it okay so does it provide a limit in terms of what can be built on top of the", "start": 11163.72, "end": 11169.279}, {"text": "buildings it it sets the framework for development in this District it has height setback things like that", "start": 11169.279, "end": 11174.52}, {"text": "storefront width okay so that means that you a developer can still purchase a building on Queen Street uh West and", "start": 11174.52, "end": 11181.359}, {"text": "they can still provide a highrise development on top of those buildings what I think'll is we'll take", "start": 11181.359, "end": 11189.239}, {"text": "that question and Adam will hold on to it because we'll ask it of Staff as well the specifics matter right because", "start": 11189.239, "end": 11197.08}, {"text": "I've seen too many times in Toronto where we don't drill on to the details and this is across the board in Toronto", "start": 11197.08, "end": 11203}, {"text": "detail the devil is in the details and uh developers these are these are supposed to be a guard rail for", "start": 11203, "end": 11208.84}, {"text": "developers and we do not have very strict guard rails in Toronto we just do it and this is not only just with", "start": 11208.84, "end": 11214.04}, {"text": "Heritage plan planning but uh any kind of urban planning um and often", "start": 11214.04, "end": 11219.84}, {"text": "developers know the policies of uh Toronto the official plan better than", "start": 11219.84, "end": 11225}, {"text": "City staff uh or um even the residents it's just a fact I've just seen it too", "start": 11225, "end": 11230.2}, {"text": "many times for the last several years so Details Matter thank you very much are", "start": 11230.2, "end": 11235.239}, {"text": "there other questions of our speaker", "start": 11235.239, "end": 11239.319}, {"text": "seeing none thank you very much for your time today and your presentation we're", "start": 11240.72, "end": 11245.92}, {"text": "going to move into questions of", "start": 11245.92, "end": 11250.319}, {"text": "Staff Adam I I'm gonna if does anyone else", "start": 11252.8, "end": 11258}, {"text": "have a question first because I have quite a few um I've been context been involved with this study for almost", "start": 11258, "end": 11264.359}, {"text": "seven years now um no you know what Adam I'm watching Everybody if anybody else", "start": 11264.359, "end": 11269.399}, {"text": "raises their hand we'll do what we did last time and you know we we'll we'll we'll take some turns but by all means", "start": 11269.399, "end": 11275.359}, {"text": "lead us off thank you um thank you for the great presentation", "start": 11275.359, "end": 11281.76}, {"text": "uh I I'm wondering if there's any consideration for any interior attributes of any of the contributing", "start": 11281.76, "end": 11287.399}, {"text": "properties this district has a large number of stores that have retained original as strant related items on the", "start": 11287.399, "end": 11294.359}, {"text": "inside there are 100-year-old Apothecary cabinet and also a high degree of the decorative stamped metal ceilings that", "start": 11294.359, "end": 11301.8}, {"text": "were actually produced quite locally just on duffen Street were they captured all in this", "start": 11301.8, "end": 11307.96}, {"text": "study uh for the purpose of through the chair for the purpose of the hcd plan uh", "start": 11307.96, "end": 11313.96}, {"text": "we have identified the list of Heritage attributes which are visible from the public row but we have uh 22 properties", "start": 11313.96, "end": 11322.84}, {"text": "which within the district which are designated under part individually designated under part part four um and", "start": 11322.84, "end": 11330.12}, {"text": "part four uh would cover the uh interior attributes of the buildings if necessary", "start": 11330.12, "end": 11337.68}, {"text": "but from the from an HD plan perspective we haven't included any attributes", "start": 11337.68, "end": 11343.399}, {"text": "related to the interior spaces of uh the buildings you just sort of surveying", "start": 11343.399, "end": 11350.88}, {"text": "other questions Adam number two okay thank you um could you speak a", "start": 11350.88, "end": 11358.319}, {"text": "bit more about the period of significance and how you um came to that specific time frame of the 1880s to the", "start": 11358.319, "end": 11363.64}, {"text": "early 20th century so understanding there are some buildings that predate even as early as the 1840s I was", "start": 11363.64, "end": 11370.239}, {"text": "surprised to see how they were attributed within the uh document through the chair most of", "start": 11370.239, "end": 11376.399}, {"text": "the properties were built uh within the district within the period of significant from 1880s to", "start": 11376.399, "end": 11383.479}, {"text": "1920s but uh in section 5.2 of the plan we describe the methodology that we use", "start": 11383.479, "end": 11391.2}, {"text": "to identify the contributing properties in this section we explained that uh", "start": 11391.2, "end": 11397.96}, {"text": "even properties which were built outside the period of significance were", "start": 11397.96, "end": 11404.16}, {"text": "evaluated and if they contribute to the district's character and statement of cultural headed value we can still", "start": 11404.16, "end": 11411.68}, {"text": "consider inclusion of them on the list of contributing properties and there are a few examples examples which were built", "start": 11411.68, "end": 11419.72}, {"text": "before and after before the 1880s and after 1920s and we considered them as", "start": 11419.72, "end": 11426.76}, {"text": "contributing property so we uh based on the concentration of the buildings", "start": 11426.76, "end": 11433.439}, {"text": "within the district constructed within this period of significance uh this period has been", "start": 11433.439, "end": 11439.2}, {"text": "identified as a period of significance but we acknowledge that there are other buildings were built outside the period", "start": 11439.2, "end": 11446.16}, {"text": "of significance but but they still contribute to the Heritage character of The", "start": 11446.16, "end": 11452.2}, {"text": "District thank you other questions Jeff and then", "start": 11452.2, "end": 11459.521}, {"text": "Adam um yes I got to say I appreciated the um the deputation by Mr paser Mr M", "start": 11463.439, "end": 11471.08}, {"text": "Pasa um in pointing out in start doing a comparison of um of The Proposal here", "start": 11471.08, "end": 11478.239}, {"text": "um and in relation to other HDs around the world I guess particularly you know", "start": 11478.239, "end": 11484.2}, {"text": "North America Europe and he his main point was the um uh the allowance uh for", "start": 11484.2, "end": 11491.319}, {"text": "for the step backs um and the lack of an absolute height uh Criterion for", "start": 11491.319, "end": 11499.68}, {"text": "property for the property or um affecting the U affecting the the the", "start": 11499.68, "end": 11507.68}, {"text": "facade basically um wondering you know whether whether sta where where staff is", "start": 11507.68, "end": 11515.72}, {"text": "you know where they came up with their particular um proposals in in regard to", "start": 11515.72, "end": 11521.239}, {"text": "step backs and absolute height have they considered um um prevailing policies", "start": 11521.239, "end": 11527.76}, {"text": "elsewhere and so on is is are we simply accepting what's been done in other acds", "start": 11527.76, "end": 11533.88}, {"text": "or where did the inspiration come for the IC policies and have we tested those", "start": 11533.88, "end": 11539.84}, {"text": "in terms of of um um the street gate View and so on and how how that would", "start": 11539.84, "end": 11546.479}, {"text": "have been affected by by different uh rules in in that", "start": 11546.479, "end": 11551.92}, {"text": "regard I through through the chair um I just I want to give an opening statement", "start": 11551.92, "end": 11557.319}, {"text": "and then puya will go into the specifics um we certainly know that", "start": 11557.319, "end": 11562.52}, 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11806.239}, {"text": "buried Rivers is that right yes that's correct the city of Toronto actually adopted that as an official policy y", "start": 11806.239, "end": 11813.52}, {"text": "yeah so I mean that policy would is is not in conflict with this", "start": 11813.52, "end": 11820.239}, {"text": "District plan um and you know pora can speak to some of the public realm", "start": 11820.239, "end": 11827.04}, {"text": "sections I don't know if it's necessary as an overlay given that the city has already adopted that um project but", "start": 11827.04, "end": 11834.52}, {"text": "Poria do you want to address the specifics about through the chair we included and", "start": 11834.52, "end": 11840.8}, {"text": "indicated The Garrison uh Creek uh in", "start": 11840.8, "end": 11846.12}, {"text": "the statement of uh in the statement of cultur value as part of the historical", "start": 11846.12, "end": 11852.359}, {"text": "associative value but uh we also in the statement of culture value uh we explained about", "start": 11852.359, "end": 11860.12}, {"text": "sunlight access to the north side of Queen Street West that and its", "start": 11860.12, "end": 11865.6}, {"text": "contribution to the vibr y of the public realm we have", "start": 11865.6, "end": 11870.64}, {"text": "included many aspects of public realm policies and guideline chapter 8 but uh", "start": 11870.64, "end": 11877.279}, {"text": "Mr wi if I understood correctly your concern about is it about the natural", "start": 11877.279, "end": 11882.96}, {"text": "heritage remnants of after that this historical acknowledgement of uh", "start": 11882.96, "end": 11890.04}, {"text": "Garrison Creek I I can provide more detail if you would there's one mention", "start": 11890.04, "end": 11895.92}, {"text": "of um natural Heritage on page six of the study and compar to the babby Point study that has very strong natural", "start": 11895.92, "end": 11901.399}, {"text": "heritage ement I've just taken back you know 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south side", "start": 12124.96, "end": 12131.319}, {"text": "of Queen near which is now aington Avenue um I noticed that was not including uded within the uh within the", "start": 12131.319, "end": 12138.439}, {"text": "study um or within the H documents we have in front of us today is there a reason for that", "start": 12138.439, "end": 12143.92}, {"text": "emission and then this is from the maps of that era there's an article from John Court that has been circulated the camh", "start": 12143.92, "end": 12149.72}, {"text": "archist it was a well documented site to the the cage side on the south", "start": 12149.72, "end": 12157.16}, {"text": "side of the the Queen Street West has been excluded from the the plant area", "start": 12157.16, "end": 12164.16}, {"text": "and it is consistent with the c this stud the area boundry which was authorized in 2015 so", "start": 12164.16, "end": 12172.439}, {"text": "uh from the beginning uh the this part of uh Queen Street West was excluded", 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Mr re you", "start": 12222.72, "end": 12230.92}, {"text": "shared with us and uh we uh found it uh", "start": 12230.92, "end": 12236.72}, {"text": "accurate and useful information but uh given these lands are outside the", "start": 12236.72, "end": 12243.68}, {"text": "boundaries we didn't include it in the final statement chapter", "start": 12243.68, "end": 12249.68}, {"text": "three thank you I'm just going to survey are there other questions before we move back to Adam", "start": 12249.68, "end": 12256.88}, {"text": "okay Adam please um thank you Cora for that um it's a bit disheartening to hear", "start": 12256.88, "end": 12262.6}, {"text": "given modern boundaries are excluding this major um historical site for the nagas within the wartime period but I'm", "start": 12262.6, "end": 12270.239}, {"text": "just wondering if you could speak a bit more to the indigenous engagement for this process um I I noticed aington Avenue is listed as an indigenous Trail", "start": 12270.239, "end": 12277.52}, {"text": "um and then there was no mention of the potential indigenous settlement site in TR Bell was it just like you get a", "start": 12277.52, "end": 12282.6}, {"text": "better understanding of the indigenous engagement um portion of the study thank", "start": 12282.6, "end": 12288.72}, {"text": "you uh through the chair as I mentioned uh at the presentation uh Heritage planning retain", "start": 12289.04, "end": 12297.08}, {"text": "Innovation 7even uh to develop an indigenous uh engagement strategy and we", "start": 12297.08, "end": 12303.6}, {"text": "completed five separate sessions uh with indigenous", "start": 12303.6, "end": 12308.84}, {"text": "communities uh and the the the two sessions were held at the Parkville uh", "start": 12308.84, "end": 12316.319}, {"text": "Queen West uh Health Community Health Center uh and we had also two uh", "start": 12316.319, "end": 12322.52}, {"text": "sessions at uh Native Canadian Center of Toronto we shared with the 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respect to honoring and celebrating the indigenous", "start": 12376.76, "end": 12383.64}, {"text": "uh Heritage and in chapter 8 policy and", "start": 12383.64, "end": 12388.72}, {"text": "guideline for public realm we have several uh guidelines to celebrate and", "start": 12388.72, "end": 12393.92}, {"text": "honor uh the Heritage indigenous Heritage in the this region thank you very much Kash I saw", "start": 12393.92, "end": 12401.52}, {"text": "your hand nope oh okay uh other question", "start": 12401.52, "end": 12406.68}, {"text": "staff Adam I I want to pref this just three more questions um this is seven", "start": 12406.68, "end": 12412.239}, {"text": "years of research coming through ah head and and I thank everyone for their patience um there there's been", "start": 12412.239, "end": 12418.16}, {"text": "significant Community interest in the large American elm at the northeast corner of fennings and queen um there", "start": 12418.16, "end": 12424.56}, {"text": "are Provisions under the Ontario Heritage act um for designation of Heritage trees uh I'm wondering if any", "start": 12424.56, "end": 12431.239}, {"text": "consideration was given to including that in the study and if not um why it's it's certainly a landmark meets all the", "start": 12431.239, "end": 12437.08}, {"text": "criteria um and I do have a draft motion that will be presented shortly and for all the members here and you know was", "start": 12437.08, "end": 12443.04}, {"text": "circulated earlier with um background context it's a 14 and A2 foot circumference Elm um likely much older", "start": 12443.04, "end": 12450.479}, {"text": "than the surrounding neighborhood and this is a species is traditionally used as a way finding tool to Mark the edge of properties it's on the boundary of", "start": 12450.479, "end": 12456.68}, {"text": "two park lots that were then rural property before the development of this area and it's also very rare American", "start": 12456.68, "end": 12462.439}, {"text": "elm almost 99% of them died from Dutch elm disease so all the criteria there", "start": 12462.439, "end": 12468.84}, {"text": "um was consideration given to adding it to the study and if not", "start": 12468.84, "end": 12475.319}, {"text": "why uh through the chair the HD plan attributes are mainly focused on", "start": 12475.319, "end": 12482.199}, {"text": "those uh architectural features uh related to the contributing buildings", "start": 12482.199, "end": 12489.279}, {"text": "that uh together Define a Heritage of Street wall so uh although the the this", "start": 12489.279, "end": 12496.479}, {"text": "tree that uh Mr R indicated is uh important but uh Heritage plan staff", "start": 12496.479, "end": 12504.239}, {"text": "believe that an H CD plan on a Main Street would not be an appropriate tool", "start": 12504.239, "end": 12509.8}, {"text": "to protect uh these American elm tree but there are definitely other tools to", "start": 12509.8, "end": 12516.359}, {"text": "protect uh this tree and this uh tree is located on property at 1056 Que Street", "start": 12516.359, "end": 12524.6}, {"text": "West which is uh parking lot and identified as a non-contributing", "start": 12524.6, "end": 12530.68}, {"text": "property and it is a city owned uh tree uh as uh we check the the the resources", "start": 12530.68, "end": 12538.84}, {"text": "that we have thank you very much Adam next", "start": 12538.84, "end": 12544.8}, {"text": "question yes thank you just a brief followup there was BBY points tell you", "start": 12544.8, "end": 12550}, {"text": "there was the ability to separate the landscape features from the built environment as as we saw a way to make", "start": 12550, "end": 12555.479}, {"text": "it eot between a non-contributing built of property and a contributing natural feature um I I just fear that if", "start": 12555.479, "end": 12561.6}, {"text": "anything happens on that property that tree is done for and this seems to be one of the few tools that can actually", "start": 12561.6, "end": 12567.8}, {"text": "be provided that at the level of legal protection and I see uh Mary's just popped up on", "start": 12567.8, "end": 12572.92}, {"text": "camera Flo in and Flo out um thank you Adam through the chair um I think it's", "start": 12572.92, "end": 12579.64}, {"text": "important to remember that District plans are very specific to the studies and plans that are that come out of the", "start": 12579.64, "end": 12586.96}, {"text": "work that's done for that area so they are they have uh different policies", "start": 12586.96, "end": 12592.439}, {"text": "different nuances different interests and certainly the tree canopy and the landscape was a fundamental part of uh", "start": 12592.439, "end": 12601.64}, {"text": "understanding the Bobby Point area so there was a necessity also through the indigenous engagement um that we did to", "start": 12601.64, "end": 12609.359}, {"text": "make sure that landscape features were were especially noted and conserved and", "start": 12609.359, "end": 12615.479}, {"text": "so um in this instance the Queen Street West context is quite different so the", "start": 12615.479, "end": 12622.52}, {"text": "study takes a different form and has different policies so we are certainly um happy to provide a notation um within", "start": 12622.52, "end": 12632.96}, {"text": "uh the document that indicates on this non-contributing property that that tree exists to make a note I can tell you we", "start": 12632.96, "end": 12640.64}, {"text": "have um developed a relationship with urban forestry they have an inventory a tree inventory", "start": 12640.64, "end": 12646.479}, {"text": "and where we think um that a tree has uh", "start": 12646.479, "end": 12651.72}, {"text": "a demonstrated uh value added in terms of its significance they actually note that in their", "start": 12651.72, "end": 12657.08}, {"text": "inventory um as puya said it is city-owned and so it is something that", "start": 12657.08, "end": 12662.72}, {"text": "we will be very uh able to make sure uh provides you know that that we have the", "start": 12662.72, "end": 12669.64}, {"text": "proper review would also say that urban forestry has their own set of tools that", "start": 12669.64, "end": 12675.239}, {"text": "they are a able to employ that are um would would be a doubling of efforts to", "start": 12675.239, "end": 12682.359}, {"text": "do that given that this is not relevant and I I know you like to the district plan as a whole it is relevant as its", "start": 12682.359, "end": 12689.04}, {"text": "own thing we can reference it we can make sure that they're aware of it we can do all kinds of things um to watch", "start": 12689.04, "end": 12696.239}, {"text": "for it uh but from a regulatory framework perspective it it would not be considered an", "start": 12696.239, "end": 12703.08}, {"text": "attribute thank you other", "start": 12703.08, "end": 12708.199}, {"text": "questions Adam uh this is the the last one I'm going to hopefully combine everything into to one here so I'm", "start": 12708.199, "end": 12714.279}, {"text": "hoping perhaps there's also an opportunity to flag it as a a landmark and that leads into was any", "start": 12714.279, "end": 12719.72}, {"text": "consideration given to the Prince of Wales Hall um at the corner of Queen and northcot um it has similar mask to the", "start": 12719.72, "end": 12726.52}, {"text": "gladston hotel from a similar era it's the largely forgotten landmark of that", "start": 12726.52, "end": 12732.199}, {"text": "technology and in similar notes the Queen Street Subway Cornerstone from the 1890s just before Duffin was that flag", "start": 12732.199, "end": 12739.439}, {"text": "at", "start": 12739.439, "end": 12741.641}, {"text": "all Adam I'm I'm not just to clarify before Poria answers y so you're you're", "start": 12745.88, "end": 12753.6}, {"text": "pointing to things that you think should be considered landmarks 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significant views have been", "start": 12798.239, "end": 12804.6}, {"text": "identified uh within the HD plan and we have a specific po policies for of views", "start": 12804.6, "end": 12811}, {"text": "to these landmarks we have also specific policies uh for massing in the massing", "start": 12811, "end": 12817.56}, {"text": "section of the C plan for landmarks and in identification of Heritage landmarks", "start": 12817.56, "end": 12822.64}, {"text": "we mostly focus on the physical prominence and presence and also the", "start": 12822.64, "end": 12830}, {"text": "social and and Community value of these landmarks and the role that this Landmark play uh in the district their", "start": 12830, "end": 12837.72}, {"text": "connection to the community so we haven't heard from the community during the consultation meetings uh about the", "start": 12837.72, "end": 12845.72}, {"text": "buildings that you uh Mr wi uh indicated but definitely we can have a separate", "start": 12845.72, "end": 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{"text": "can put added pressure I suppose on the situation okay I I just note that there", "start": 17848.08, "end": 17854.32}, {"text": "was a tree that was recently a very old 300-year tree that was cut down in in a", "start": 17854.32, "end": 17859.92}, {"text": "to and um that that was a very sad event but but I'd have to say the the city", "start": 17859.92, "end": 17866.28}, {"text": "staff that were involved in that moved Heaven and Earth to try and keep that tree alive um and it really was a a", "start": 17866.28, "end": 17872.558}, {"text": "matter of you know there was no other option um but but to take it it down so", "start": 17872.558, "end": 17878.48}, {"text": "I certainly have a lot of confidence that the city doesn't take you know that sort of thing lightly or or that it", "start": 17878.48, "end": 17884.48}, {"text": "falls in the cracks no and unfortunately there is a natural lifespan", "start": 17884.48, "end": 17890.798}, {"text": "um but we'll do everything that we can to help uh the flourishing to make it as long as possible because they are", "start": 17890.798, "end": 17897.52}, {"text": "extraordinary our older trees are", "start": 17897.52, "end": 17901.08}, {"text": "extraordinary uh thank you madam Sher there's um a researcher by the name of Eric Davies at the University of Toronto", "start": 17903.76, "end": 17909.76}, {"text": "who specializes in the genetic diversity of um Toronto's trees and he's mapped he runs the Grand Tree Project which has", "start": 17909.76, "end": 17916.16}, {"text": "identified around 1,100 surviving trees that predate 179 three when the British arrived and he's mapped these out across", "start": 17916.16, "end": 17923}, {"text": "the city of Toronto um I I note that the anterior Heritage act has I think designated 38 individual trees across", "start": 17923, "end": 17929.958}, {"text": "various municipalities but for whatever reason it's not something the city of Toronto does um that's at their", "start": 17929.958, "end": 17935.2}, {"text": "discretion although um Mary we should have a conversation at some point because there's documents that reference the Heritage tree program and I think", "start": 17935.2, "end": 17941.12}, {"text": "that's where a lot of community confusion is originating from no it's important to flag Mary", "start": 17941.12, "end": 17952.04}, {"text": "um other further discussion amongst", "start": 17955.84, "end": 17959.718}, {"text": "ourselves so Adam has moved these these these this amendment um so um do I have", "start": 17965.24, "end": 17973.84}, {"text": "a um are we I'm going to proceed as as as a bundle um um so as long as there's", "start": 17973.84, "end": 17980.52}, {"text": "no further discussion Adams move them um all those in", "start": 17980.52, "end": 17986.52}, {"text": "favor thank you very much that carries we now have a staff report", "start": 17989.68, "end": 17995.718}, {"text": "before us as amended sort of lots of recommendations are any further discussion you know before we", "start": 17995.718, "end": 18003.202}, {"text": "proceed seeing none would anybody care to move the recommendations as amended in the report", "start": 18003.44, "end": 18010.6}, {"text": "kaarina thank you very much all those in favor the motion carries thank you ever", "start": 18010.6, "end": 18017.558}, {"text": "so much moving on to PB 25.8 the Weston", "start": 18017.558, "end": 18023.36}, {"text": "Phase 2 hcd study final report welcome", "start": 18023.36, "end": 18028.76}, {"text": "Lissa hello everyone I almost said good morning good afternoon everyone I'm Lissa cologo and I'm a Heritage planner", "start": 18028.76, "end": 18035.718}, {"text": "at the city of Toronto and I'll be presenting on item pb25 5.8 Weston Phase", "start": 18035.718, "end": 18041.958}, {"text": "2 Heritage Conservation District study final report next slide", "start": 18041.958, "end": 18048.282}, {"text": "please on January 31st 2018 city council directed that an hcd study be initiated", "start": 18050.638, "end": 18057.68}, {"text": "for the Weston Phase 2 hcd study as identified in the map on the screen the", "start": 18057.68, "end": 18063.6}, {"text": "study area is a primarily residential neighborhood located east of the Humber River and the railway track", "start": 18063.6, "end": 18070.68}, {"text": "the area is bound by Rosemount Avenue to the West Church Street to the North Elm", "start": 18070.68, "end": 18075.92}, {"text": "Street to the East and McDonald Avenue to the south in January 2019 City staff", "start": 18075.92, "end": 18082.798}, {"text": "initiated a study of the Weston Phase 2 study area to determine whether it merited designation under part five of", "start": 18082.798, "end": 18089.92}, {"text": "the Ontario Heritage act or the OA on January 1st 2023 legislative changes were made to", "start": 18089.92, "end": 18097.2}, {"text": "the OA through Bill 23 which outlined that at least 25% of properties within", "start": 18097.2, "end": 18102.958}, {"text": "the defined area must satisfy two or more of the criteria in Ontario", "start": 18102.958, "end": 18108.08}, {"text": "regulation 906 of the OA for determining cultural heritage value or", "start": 18108.08, "end": 18114.12}, {"text": "interest Research into the history and evolution of the study area was undertaken as part of the hcd study", "start": 18114.12, "end": 18120.958}, {"text": "process which provided a foundational understanding of the history of land use", "start": 18120.958, "end": 18126.28}, {"text": "and development that informed the subsequent character analysis and Heritage evaluation generally speaking", "start": 18126.28, "end": 18133.16}, {"text": "the Weston Phase 2 study area is understood to be an area that has developed slowly over time as a Milling", "start": 18133.16, "end": 18140.24}, {"text": "community at the end of the 18th century and into the mid 19th century and evolved with the coming of the Railway", "start": 18140.24, "end": 18146.718}, {"text": "during the mid to late 19th century and subsequently developed into an industrial suburb into the mid 20th", "start": 18146.718, "end": 18153.52}, {"text": "century and then a post-industrial Amal Amalgamated Community into the latter half of the 20th century a detailed", "start": 18153.52, "end": 18160.84}, {"text": "review of the history and evolution of the Weston Phase 2 study area can be found in attachment to to the report the", "start": 18160.84, "end": 18168}, {"text": "study process also included two Community consultation meetings or CCMS", "start": 18168, "end": 18173.558}, {"text": "and four Community Advisory Group meetings or kegs as well as consultation", "start": 18173.558, "end": 18178.718}, {"text": "with the Weston historical society and the Weston Heritage Conservation District organization who have provided", "start": 18178.718, "end": 18185.558}, {"text": "an extraordinary amount of research and information that assisted City staff through the study phase next slide", "start": 18185.558, "end": 18193.876}, {"text": "please an analysis of the study area's character was also undertaken to", "start": 18193.92, "end": 18199.16}, {"text": "understand the defining features of the Weston Phase 2 neighborhood in this analysis City staff were evaluating the", "start": 18199.16, "end": 18206.92}, {"text": "extent to which there was an identifiable and cohesive character in Weston that could and should be", "start": 18206.92, "end": 18213.2}, {"text": "conserved through the objectives policies and guidelines of an hcd plan", "start": 18213.2, "end": 18218.878}, {"text": "mapping produced as part of the study Illustrated that there is no dominant period of construction or period of", "start": 18218.878, "end": 18225.28}, {"text": "significance related to when the study area built with the area being re subdivided at least 14 times and", "start": 18225.28, "end": 18232.4}, {"text": "containing a wide variety in its built form next slide", "start": 18232.4, "end": 18237.878}, {"text": "please similarly mapping of architectural Styles present in the study area Illustrated the diversity", "start": 18237.92, "end": 18244.718}, {"text": "present in the built form with over 18 architectural Styles being identified with within the hcd study boundary as a", "start": 18244.718, "end": 18252.798}, {"text": "result staff concluded that there is a lack of definable visual Harmony or commonality within the study area which", "start": 18252.798, "end": 18259.958}, {"text": "would have otherwise been present if there was a significant period of development next slide", "start": 18259.958, "end": 18266.04}, {"text": "please following community and stakeholder consultation and the analysis of the study area's history and", "start": 18266.04, "end": 18272.4}, {"text": "evolution and its present day character staff also evaluated the area against", "start": 18272.4, "end": 18277.76}, {"text": "the criteria for determination of cultural heritage value within an hcd", "start": 18277.76, "end": 18282.958}, {"text": "established in the council adopted Heritage conservation districts in Toronto procedures policies and terms of", "start": 18282.958, "end": 18289.76}, {"text": "reference next slide please based on the findings of the hcd", "start": 18289.76, "end": 18295.92}, {"text": "study City staff have determined that there is an absence of a definable design to the built form or a coherent", "start": 18295.92, "end": 18302.958}, {"text": "set of physical values that could be conserved under part five of the OA", "start": 18302.958, "end": 18308.28}, {"text": "additionally the Weston two study area did not meet the province's 25% minimum", "start": 18308.28, "end": 18313.6}, {"text": "threshold with under 10% of the properties meeting two or more of the nine Ontario regulation 906 criteria in", "start": 18313.6, "end": 18321.2}, {"text": "the OA staff have concluded that the Weston Phase 2 study area does not Merit", "start": 18321.2, "end": 18326.76}, {"text": "conservation through an hcd and are recommending that the study does not proceed to the hcd plan phase however", "start": 18326.76, "end": 18334.16}, {"text": "cultural heritage value is present in the study area as represented in individual properties next slide", "start": 18334.16, "end": 18342.16}, {"text": "please staff have identified a list of 20 properties with potential cultural heritage value that meet two or more of", "start": 18342.24, "end": 18349.32}, {"text": "the criteria in Ontario regulation 906 of the OA and will be undertaking", "start": 18349.32, "end": 18354.44}, {"text": "research and evaluation on these properties the addresses of these properties can be found in attachment 7", "start": 18354.44, "end": 18360.44}, {"text": "of the report with accompanying images in attachment 8 thank", "start": 18360.44, "end": 18366.202}, {"text": "you thank you very much we have one speaker on this item Sher", "start": 18367.08, "end": 18376.6}, {"text": "Hurst can you hear me we should certainly can you have five", "start": 18388.84, "end": 18394.32}, {"text": "minutes okay well as said my name is Sher Hurst I don't know why the camera is not working but um anyways uh I'll", "start": 18394.32, "end": 18402.558}, {"text": "start video sorry um my name is Sher Hurst and I'm the president of the", "start": 18402.558, "end": 18407.92}, {"text": "Western Historical Society I was also the president of the Western Heritage Conservation District board um wow after", "start": 18407.92, "end": 18416.16}, {"text": "listening to the uh all the presentations and the comments and stuff today uh I have Rewritten and written", "start": 18416.16, "end": 18423.6}, {"text": "and Rewritten what I wanted to say but um it's still first of all it does come", "start": 18423.6, "end": 18429.04}, {"text": "down to the I want to thank the people at preservation services for all the work they have done on this project it", "start": 18429.04, "end": 18434.24}, {"text": "was a huge task and so I do thank you um I'm more disappointed than I can say to", "start": 18434.24, "end": 18441}, {"text": "hear that the Western Phase 2 Heritage conservation dist district is not moving", "start": 18441, "end": 18446.08}, {"text": "forward a lot of people from the Western Community have done a lot of work put in a lot of time and a lot of money towards", "start": 18446.08, "end": 18453.16}, {"text": "this idea the Finish Line on this project has changed so many times for us", "start": 18453.16, "end": 18459.718}, {"text": "and we have jumped through so many Hoops throughout this process when all our work was handed over to the city we were", "start": 18459.718, "end": 18466.08}, {"text": "promised that it would be different from here on in obviously that hasn't quite come to pass once again the city has", "start": 18466.08, "end": 18473.36}, {"text": "totally missed the meaning of Weston we don't I agree we totally do not reflect", "start": 18473.36, "end": 18478.958}, {"text": "a single planner architect landscape architect artist Builder designer or theorist we reflect", "start": 18478.958, "end": 18486.958}, {"text": "many Architects design uh designers Builders etc etc we have a we have a", "start": 18486.958, "end": 18494.558}, {"text": "fantastic collection of different styles types materials or construction methods", "start": 18494.558, "end": 18500.84}, {"text": "that is the definition of Weston that is the definition of our area definition of the character of our area because the", "start": 18500.84, "end": 18508.16}, {"text": "area has been subdivided 14 times we were told we have too much diversity I", "start": 18508.16, "end": 18513.6}, {"text": "like our diversity and I'm going to embrace it we need this more than ever in today's world even if if we were only", "start": 18513.6, "end": 18520}, {"text": "talking about houses I have heard that each district in this meeting today I've heard number", "start": 18520, "end": 18526.04}, {"text": "of times that each district is uh is uh sorry is commented on according", "start": 18526.04, "end": 18535.24}, {"text": "to its specific area and even some of the uh plans and stuff will be adapted", "start": 18535.24, "end": 18540.92}, {"text": "according to the specific area well I think that's been forgotten when doing the work on the Western", "start": 18540.92, "end": 18547.16}, {"text": "Place the idea of singular designating 20 homes sounds interesting uh es and", "start": 18547.16, "end": 18554.04}, {"text": "and especially appreciated knowing the workload that I know preservation Services has right now but once again", "start": 18554.04, "end": 18560.08}, {"text": "the city has totally missed the meaning of Weston those same people who own the 20 homes just may not want them", "start": 18560.08, "end": 18567.12}, {"text": "designated singularly and and in addition in addition there home owners", "start": 18567.12, "end": 18572.878}, {"text": "homeowners who definitely want their homes listed and they're not on the list", "start": 18572.878, "end": 18578.2}, {"text": "to this end I and our counselor Francis nanata would request that this decision", "start": 18578.2, "end": 18583.638}, {"text": "about these 20 homes be postponed until the owners of the said properties have had their say at a community meeting", "start": 18583.638, "end": 18590.84}, {"text": "thank you thank you very much thank you for", "start": 18590.84, "end": 18597}, {"text": "hanging around until this portion of our day two and for your words I've been I've been hanging around for 18 years so", "start": 18597, "end": 18603.36}, {"text": "16 years sorry do we have questions for our speaker", "start": 18603.36, "end": 18610}, {"text": "Paul Sherry I just want to refresh the history of how the boundaries of this", "start": 18611.4, "end": 18618}, {"text": "study were arrived at and and especially in comparison to the first", "start": 18618, "end": 18623.4}, {"text": "hcd um was did do you have a recollection of what", "start": 18623.4, "end": 18629}, {"text": "we wanted out of the F Phase 2 or uh the what the boundaries were were meant to", "start": 18629, "end": 18634.798}, {"text": "be boundaries were of the map showing in the report was the", "start": 18634.798, "end": 18641.4}, {"text": "original boundaries we actually had wanted it to go even larger but that didn't get sent all the way to city hall", "start": 18641.4, "end": 18647.84}, {"text": "or all the way to preservation services so they stayed with the the size that it", "start": 18647.84, "end": 18653.44}, {"text": "is in that map those boundaries are basically um a based on streets and", "start": 18653.44, "end": 18660.32}, {"text": "based on the uh growth of Weston which was much uh more west of Elm Street than", "start": 18660.32, "end": 18668.4}, {"text": "the the area past salm street that does that answer your question yes it does", "start": 18668.4, "end": 18674.16}, {"text": "thank you are there other questions", "start": 18674.16, "end": 18679.92}, {"text": "Adam you're muted Adam thank you madam chair um Sher you", "start": 18681.16, "end": 18689.4}, {"text": "had mentioned um concerns over individual designations rather than a Heritage Conservation District as a", "start": 18689.4, "end": 18695.32}, {"text": "whole so part four is a part five um I understand you have a background with one of the local historical societies", "start": 18695.32, "end": 18700.6}, {"text": "can you um eluate those concerns my concerns I'm sorry I didn't catch all that my concerns for why um", "start": 18700.6, "end": 18707.84}, {"text": "why are you or perhaps your neighbors concerned about an individual designation rather than a hcd", "start": 18707.84, "end": 18713.48}, {"text": "designation it's the same old same old say that you've had the some of the comments on the meeting today is they're", "start": 18713.48, "end": 18720.16}, {"text": "worried about uh um restrictions on their property um they're worried they", "start": 18720.16, "end": 18726.12}, {"text": "you know they feel it's their home they can do what they want with it the this basically all the same all some of it is", "start": 18726.12, "end": 18732.2}, {"text": "not knowing right what a what a designation can do for their property and some of it's just not wanting that", "start": 18732.2, "end": 18738.84}, {"text": "interference thank you other", "start": 18738.84, "end": 18742.958}, {"text": "questions seeing none thank you so much again for your time today okay thank you", "start": 18746.12, "end": 18754.04}, {"text": "oh Jeff is that a question for our speaker hold on oh question for staff oh", "start": 18754.04, "end": 18760.718}, {"text": "we're getting there we're getting there thank you so moving on now to", "start": 18760.718, "end": 18766.76}, {"text": "questions of staff and Jeff is first in the queue yeah um this is 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requiring two criteria rather than than", "start": 18817.44, "end": 18823.718}, {"text": "maybe it was one before I'm just a very specific question on", "start": 18823.718, "end": 18829.762}, {"text": "that Gary tomorrow who would like to take this one um um I would I would just say that", "start": 18830.32, "end": 18837.878}, {"text": "it was an added consideration but it was our we were following the terms of reference of the hcds in Toronto um so", "start": 18837.878, "end": 18846.2}, {"text": "this was sort of a a supplementary to us to look at um what it did inform us on was boundary", "start": 18846.2, "end": 18852.92}, {"text": "um we were not we looked at a variety of scenarios to see if we could make it a smaller area uh that would Merit uh um", "start": 18852.92, "end": 18861.76}, {"text": "and again the percentage was not there um but uh I I would say that it has been", "start": 18861.76, "end": 18870}, {"text": "a learning process for this one in particular um you know each each district as we uh go into it we we do", "start": 18870, "end": 18879.08}, {"text": "look at um all the uh built form and we did the inventory ourselves uh we looked", "start": 18879.08, "end": 18885.44}, {"text": "at it in a variety of ways um I I think I I completely acknowledge and recognize", "start": 18885.44, "end": 18893.76}, {"text": "Sherry's incredible dedication and and the historical research um I hope we can", "start": 18893.76, "end": 18900.12}, {"text": "continue to collaborate as as we move forward on on this but it's in in my", "start": 18900.12, "end": 18906.24}, {"text": "opinion our best advice is not to proceed uh to the plan", "start": 18906.24, "end": 18911.718}, {"text": "stage and I brought Gary on board also to help us um uh Lissa can have uh", "start": 18911.718, "end": 18917.878}, {"text": "technical questions but um I've asked Gary and we're collaborating on the next", "start": 18917.878, "end": 18923.24}, {"text": "phase on the recommendations on the individual property research so I've asked him to join us on on that matter", "start": 18923.24, "end": 18930.28}, {"text": "as well and and this has been our commitment for this project was as with", "start": 18930.28, "end": 18935.878}, {"text": "other hcds that as we um have the opportunity we want to uh not just say", "start": 18935.878, "end": 18942.878}, {"text": "stop Full Stop on that there's not enough Heritage for the district and walk away um we're continuing our work", "start": 18942.878, "end": 18950.32}, {"text": "but it's in a different manner um and looking at individual properties that's our commitment uh to", "start": 18950.32, "end": 18957.638}, {"text": "Weston you sorry madam chair if I could just interject um I've just heard some", "start": 18957.638, "end": 18965.958}, {"text": "sad news of death in the family um if I leave will you still have Quorum yes I believe we will Matthew I'm", "start": 18965.958, "end": 18973.28}, {"text": "so sorry please go attend to your what you need to", "start": 18973.28, "end": 18979.04}, {"text": "do um okay um my followup question is then", "start": 18979.04, "end": 18986.92}, {"text": "I think to Gary what are the next steps because I think we' we've is listing next is designation next like what is", "start": 18986.92, "end": 18993.84}, {"text": "the next process for those 20 houses and then I see you Paul and I think Jeff you also had a follow up so I I will just", "start": 18993.84, "end": 18999.958}, {"text": "then if you're asking what's in the report if I could just refer you to the recommendations in the report itself and", "start": 18999.958, "end": 19006.48}, {"text": "and it's it's quite clear and we'll only speak to what's in the recommendations at this time because it's an evolving uh", "start": 19006.48, "end": 19013.16}, {"text": "request so Gary if you could just uh address what's the recommendations in the report", "start": 19013.16, "end": 19020}, {"text": "itself which leads me to quickly pull up the recommendations in the report could you speak to them tomorrow if you've got", "start": 19020.798, "end": 19027.12}, {"text": "those in front of you yeah so we we are um Lissa if you have that report that we", "start": 19027.12, "end": 19033.92}, {"text": "could just speak to the the recommendation I'm sorry I we're we're just trying to", "start": 19033.92, "end": 19040.84}, {"text": "uh I've I've got I've got it open so I closed everything down for the lunch break and I'm sorry I should have opened", "start": 19040.84, "end": 19047.12}, {"text": "it up again no problem I've got it open so there's two recommendations the first is to uh receive", "start": 19047.12, "end": 19053.12}, {"text": "information uh in this report and then the second is to endorse the list of", "start": 19053.12, "end": 19058.44}, {"text": "heritage potential properties recommended for further research and evaluation so that list of 20", "start": 19058.44, "end": 19066.078}, {"text": "properties and that's all we're asking of of of the board today than you um okay", "start": 19069.36, "end": 19077.44}, {"text": "Paul well my my question would be with regards to our endorsing uh the 20 how", "start": 19077.44, "end": 19083.4}, {"text": "far short is that of a recommendation to list the 20 and uh what what would be", "start": 19083.4, "end": 19089.68}, {"text": "different it's kind of I think I'm on the same wavelength that Jeff was earlier with bayew um you know how far", "start": 19089.68, "end": 19096.798}, {"text": "are we from uh um you know continuing that process or how close are we", "start": 19096.798, "end": 19105.16}, {"text": "hopefully well um okay so again I'll I'll I can answer that to the point that", "start": 19107.6, "end": 19113.958}, {"text": "what's required as you've seen in a listing a report is a listing statement that's a requirement under the Ontario", "start": 19113.958, "end": 19120.16}, {"text": "Heritage act um we also this was actually the site or our 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um I I would say for ourselves and I see Mary has come on I don't know", "start": 19211.44, "end": 19217.6}, {"text": "if you want to reference previous reports in in my opinion at this point it is the work continues for us as we've", "start": 19217.6, "end": 19225.04}, {"text": "discovered some individual resources that we wish to uh conclude that work", "start": 19225.04, "end": 19231.36}, {"text": "on this is similar we we did this uh for example in the caloma area where we had", "start": 19231.36, "end": 19238.24}, {"text": "a large boundary and in that instance we had an area that we felt um hung", "start": 19238.24, "end": 19244.48}, {"text": "together as a potential hcd but we also in the process of our work recognized there were individual uh properties I", "start": 19244.48, "end": 19251.92}, {"text": "don't believe at the time we had a recommendation to endorse but in this case uh because of the circumstances the", "start": 19251.92, "end": 19259.24}, {"text": "close work that we've been doing uh with Sher and the toico Historical Society we", "start": 19259.24, "end": 19264.878}, {"text": "we felt that it was important to have something public and on the record and also to Signal the continued work uh and", "start": 19264.878, "end": 19273.4}, {"text": "to uh which then sends us off to speak to the individual owners to help them to", "start": 19273.4, "end": 19278.52}, {"text": "understand what listing would mean um so it is a slightly more public statement uh it frankly isn't required for us to", "start": 19278.52, "end": 19286.718}, {"text": "be doing that work because we will do that work anyway um but we did want it", "start": 19286.718, "end": 19291.878}, {"text": "not to be lost Adam and to be clear that our commitment to the area", "start": 19291.878, "end": 19297.52}, {"text": "continues any other questions of Staff Adam and then", "start": 19297.52, "end": 19303.92}, {"text": "Jeff does it have the same uh functionality as the nomination 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{"text": "process but to the point like the recommendation is that we're endorsing today that yes these 20 properties need", "start": 19542.84, "end": 19548.92}, {"text": "to be looked at um more more closely um and I think that's you know it's not the", "start": 19548.92, "end": 19555.44}, {"text": "the rosiest outcome for for you know such hard work that's been put into this by such a dedicated community of people", "start": 19555.44, "end": 19562.48}, {"text": "but at least it's is a positive outcome um any other points of discussion", "start": 19562.48, "end": 19569.4}, {"text": "Paul please yeah I I I just wanted to say I I think I would agree with", "start": 19569.4, "end": 19574.76}, {"text": "everything you just said there's this is a glass half full situation uh we have", "start": 19574.76, "end": 19580.32}, {"text": "the phase 1 hcd that that was successful we have the 20 properties that was", "start": 19580.32, "end": 19586.12}, {"text": "successful and we have um individual 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or otherwise that I think we have to be clear on what these boundaries are and speaking from the", "start": 19676.76, "end": 19684.24}, {"text": "Suburban point of view the period of significance also matters because we have communities that didn't exist until", "start": 19684.24, "end": 19691.32}, {"text": "postwar and so you know that doesn't mean there's no Heritage in in those communities it's and the heritage is not", "start": 19691.32, "end": 19698.48}, {"text": "necessarily the The Farmhouse that was there from the 1800s it's how how we", "start": 19698.48, "end": 19703.558}, {"text": "built Suburbia and that too will eventually be be herited stuff that we", "start": 19703.558, "end": 19708.798}, {"text": "need to look at so I just think you know we this this one presented a lot of lessons uh learned but the and you know", "start": 19708.798, "end": 19716.36}, {"text": "I have to say the other big benefit we got out of this one is I think the report is a very good one it has a huge", "start": 19716.36, "end": 19722.44}, {"text": "section of history and it has an enormous uh list of references and and biography so for people who who want to", "start": 19722.44, "end": 19730.558}, {"text": "uh continue research or look look elsewhere I think it was a a very useful uh work forward just sort of regretful", "start": 19730.558, "end": 19737.76}, {"text": "in the end that it did didn't result in an hcd but I'll stop", "start": 19737.76, "end": 19742.798}, {"text": "there thank you very much Paul I think you you you articulated what a lot of of", "start": 19742.798, "end": 19748.24}, {"text": "us are thinking right now that you know you wish there's something halfway in between to recognize this unique", "start": 19748.24, "end": 19753.68}, {"text": "character even if it doesn't you know Merit um the tests of the legislative um", "start": 19753.68, "end": 19759.36}, {"text": "framework under which we have to operate within Heritage um other discussion", "start": 19759.36, "end": 19766.08}, {"text": "points seeing none we have a staff Report with recommendations before us would anybody care to moove the", "start": 19766.08, "end": 19771.958}, {"text": "recommendations in the report I'll I'll do so although those in", "start": 19771.958, "end": 19780.44}, {"text": "favor motion carries thank you very much everybody hi C thank you very much and", "start": 19780.638, "end": 19787.44}, {"text": "then we're moving on to our last item of the day 25.9 hello Liz welcome", "start": 19787.44, "end": 19794.76}, {"text": "back Alex hello in towards expediency I'd be quite happy", "start": 19794.76, "end": 19802}, {"text": "to unhold the Bay viw Avenue property if that would help things I I I think it's", "start": 19802, "end": 19809.4}, {"text": "fairly non-c contentious I thought it was a very interesting report and I thought it would be interesting to hear", "start": 19809.4, "end": 19814.52}, {"text": "it but in view of the fact that it's going to be dark in a few hours I would be quite happy to unhold it what do you", "start": 19814.52, "end": 19820.24}, {"text": "think all right so just to make sure that that's um with the will of the rest of the", "start": 19820.24, "end": 19826.4}, {"text": "board um is everybody else okay with that and we'll", "start": 19826.4, "end": 19831.958}, {"text": "move no questions it is an amazing report oh Adam I see your hand you want to hear", "start": 19831.958, "end": 19838.638}, {"text": "everything I I yes I I think um just by virtue of there's elements here for", "start": 19838.638, "end": 19844.6}, {"text": "other files that I've been following that I think there may be some applicability and so question do you", "start": 19844.6, "end": 19849.92}, {"text": "want to hear the report or you just want to ask some questions no I'd like to hear the report please thank", "start": 19849.92, "end": 19855.558}, {"text": "you Liz please and thank you because this is this is this is very cool thank you everyone uh so anchoring", "start": 19855.558, "end": 19864.558}, {"text": "the beginning of uh end end of today's meeting uh I'm now presenting today's Final item", "start": 19864.558, "end": 19870.68}, {"text": "uh PB 25.9 uh 2451 and 24 89 Bay View Avenue", "start": 19870.68, "end": 19877.92}, {"text": "proposed amendment to designating bylaw under part four section 30.1 of the Ontario Heritage", "start": 19877.92, "end": 19884.84}, {"text": "act slide please located on the east side of bayew", "start": 19884.84, "end": 19891.28}, {"text": "Avenue south of York Mills Road the city owned part 4 designated property at 2451", "start": 19891.28, "end": 19897.4}, {"text": "in 489 babo Avenue known as windfields estate is a significant cultural", "start": 19897.4, "end": 19902.878}, {"text": "heritage landscape containing the original 20 acre estate of late Canadian business magnate and thoroughbred horse", "start": 19902.878, "end": 19909.84}, {"text": "breeder EP Taylor where a significant grouping of interrelated buildings are placed in a landscape", "start": 19909.84, "end": 19916.76}, {"text": "setting developed in the uh actually I'll I'll bypass that part it's in the", "start": 19916.76, "end": 19921.92}, {"text": "report part of the subject property uh was designated in 1992 on part four", "start": 19921.92, "end": 19928.6}, {"text": "section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act in the designated portion of the property is currently leased to the", "start": 19928.6, "end": 19934.718}, {"text": "Canadian Film Center the property is also located within City of Toronto Parkland known as winfields Park uh with", "start": 19934.718, "end": 19942.04}, {"text": "a municipal address of 2451 Bay View Avenue and the eastern boundary of the", "start": 19942.04, "end": 19948.24}, {"text": "property is located within a Toronto uh Regional conservation Authority regulated area and the property", "start": 19948.24, "end": 19955.878}, {"text": "encompasses two identified and 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significance and Associated Heritage attributes recommended in the report uh before you today uh you'll", "start": 20043.32, "end": 20050.68}, {"text": "notice that a full research and evaluation section has been uh prepared and included as attachment five and K's", "start": 20050.68, "end": 20057.718}, {"text": "notes version of that history and understanding of the cultural heritage value and attributes of the property is", "start": 20057.718, "end": 20063.4}, {"text": "provided in the following slides to begin Toronto architect Joselyn Davidson initially worked on the", "start": 20063.4, "end": 20070.44}, {"text": "20 acre property for EP Taylor which was envisioned as a residential country estate with a view to an equestrian", "start": 20070.44, "end": 20076.84}, {"text": "lifestyle Davidson designed the main house and the Stables both completed in", "start": 20076.84, "end": 20082.4}, {"text": "1937 Davidson can be credited with some of the most impressive private residences in 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grouping of auxiliary buildings combines The Bungalow Style with classical highlights that complate", "start": 20272.2, "end": 20278.4}, {"text": "complement the main house and Stables slide", "start": 20278.4, "end": 20283.76}, {"text": "please in 1986 the tailor family bequeathed the property to the former city of North York the built components", "start": 20284.798, "end": 20291.92}, {"text": "and Landscape grounds of Winfield's estate have been tenanted and adaptively reused by the Canadian Film Center since", "start": 20291.92, "end": 20299}, {"text": "1988 and this was a bequest of EP uh EP Taylor and a gesture befitting his", "start": 20299, "end": 20305.798}, {"text": "long-term patronage of the Arts so since then uh Winfield's estate has been", "start": 20305.798, "end": 20311.6}, {"text": "identified with the development and evolution of the Canadian Film Center the CFC was founded as the Canadian", "start": 20311.6, "end": 20318.32}, {"text": "center for advanced Film Studies by the internationally celebrated and Canadian born film director Norman", "start": 20318.32, "end": 20325.08}, {"text": "Json a current kapo stamp replicated at the center of this slide captures the", "start": 20325.08, "end": 20330.52}, {"text": "late jewison sitting in the movie theater in the basement of the main house excuse me at the windfields", "start": 20330.52, "end": 20337.24}, {"text": "estate sensitively designed recent additions to the windfields estate", "start": 20337.24, "end": 20342.28}, {"text": "property that enhanced the cultural Val uh cultural heritage value of the site", "start": 20342.28, "end": 20347.68}, {"text": "include the courtyard directly south of the main house designed by Heritage landscape David", "start": 20347.68, "end": 20352.92}, {"text": "werman and the Northern dancer Pavilion uh which is named after Taylor's world-renowned thoroughbred racehorse an", "start": 20352.92, "end": 20360.878}, {"text": "adjacent water feature both designed by Ken Fukushima and located the Eastern Terminus of the Taylor era Terrace", "start": 20360.878, "end": 20368.52}, {"text": "Gardens these interventions are legible as new additions while they also deafly", "start": 20368.52, "end": 20373.638}, {"text": "incorporate historic themes and features of the property the details of that are highlighted in", "start": 20373.638, "end": 20379.44}, {"text": "the report before you slide", "start": 20379.44, "end": 20384.558}, {"text": "please contextually windfields estate is a landmark on bayw Avenue with its", "start": 20385.2, "end": 20390.36}, {"text": "expansive site with natural features in landscaping The prominent estate house", "start": 20390.36, "end": 20396.04}, {"text": "and the collection of related buildings the site is historically linked to its surroundings in North York where it was", "start": 20396.04, "end": 20402.24}, {"text": "among the first country estates developed on the street uh following the extension of bay Avenue North of", "start": 20402.24, "end": 20408}, {"text": "Eglington Avenue East in 1929 other country estates in North York", "start": 20408, "end": 20413.28}, {"text": "that were commissioned by ep Taylor's contemporaries have been either demolished or reduced in size making", "start": 20413.28, "end": 20419.92}, {"text": "windfields unique within with the retention of its excuse me I'm choking on myself", "start": 20419.92, "end": 20426.4}, {"text": "making windfields unique with the retention of original 20 acres it's 20", "start": 20426.4, "end": 20431.44}, {"text": "Acre Site buildings and Landscape features 10 views uh identify as", "start": 20431.44, "end": 20437.6}, {"text": "attributes in the revised statement of significance contained in the report before you of which uh three are seen", "start": 20437.6, "end": 20445.718}, {"text": "here uh including at top right uh that axial relationship I just mentioned", "start": 20445.718, "end": 20452.478}, {"text": "between the rear of the main house from which the photo is taken across the formal Terrace Gardens to the Northern", "start": 20452.478, "end": 20458.52}, {"text": "dancer Pavilion that replaces the deri pool and Cabanas staff have determined that the", "start": 20458.52, "end": 20465.6}, {"text": "entire city-owned Heritage proper known as Windfield estate and located at 2451", "start": 20465.6, "end": 20471.28}, {"text": "and 2489 Bay Avenue has cultural heritage value and Associated Heritage", "start": 20471.28, "end": 20477}, {"text": "attributes meeting Ontario regulation 906 as such the current designation", "start": 20477, "end": 20482.638}, {"text": "bylaw for the property should be amended accordingly uh under part four section", "start": 20482.638, "end": 20488.32}, {"text": "30.1 of the onaro Heritage act and finally I I I just want to take a moment", "start": 20488.32, "end": 20494.76}, {"text": "before I conclude to recognize my late colleague Katherine Anderson uh who she", "start": 20494.76, "end": 20500.84}, {"text": "penned the 1992 Heritage designation bylaw for the windfields estate property", "start": 20500.84, "end": 20506.478}, {"text": "and he subsequently prepared a draft SOS under oeg 9906 that forms the basis for the", "start": 20506.478, "end": 20514.04}, {"text": "revised statement of significance before you today and I'm pleased to have had", "start": 20514.04, "end": 20519.16}, {"text": "the opportunity to build upon and carry forward this work to adequately identify and protect this remarkable Landmark", "start": 20519.16, "end": 20525.76}, {"text": "Heritage Property in our city thank you thank you so much", "start": 20525.76, "end": 20532.6}, {"text": "Liz do we have questions of", "start": 20532.6, "end": 20538.16}, {"text": "Staff hi Alex yes true you madam chair I think", "start": 20539.798, "end": 20545.12}, {"text": "somewhere in the report it was mentioned that there was white fencing I think at", "start": 20545.12, "end": 20550.36}, {"text": "one point it could have gone along the western Frontage along Bay View because I remember that back in the days of", "start": 20550.36, "end": 20558.958}, {"text": "earlier preservation panels there was a big discussion about replacing putting in the present fence which is not white", "start": 20558.958, "end": 20565.36}, {"text": "fencing I'm just wondering if any white fencing still exists in other parts of the", "start": 20565.36, "end": 20571.52}, {"text": "property I don't see it mentioned thank you Alex um on other parts of the", "start": 20573.44, "end": 20579.04}, {"text": "property uh no I'm not aware of any of that white picket fencing the fencing", "start": 20579.04, "end": 20584.08}, {"text": "along the uh Western perimeter is mentioned in the report uh that divides the property from the from bayu Avenue", "start": 20584.08, "end": 20592.2}, {"text": "um albeit it's not white at the moment uh it's uh that's that's been that's", "start": 20592.2, "end": 20598.76}, {"text": "faded since but it is contained within the report else elsewhere I um I have", "start": 20598.76, "end": 20604.958}, {"text": "not come across any picket fencing and also I guess it's a temporary matter but I don't think you", "start": 20604.958, "end": 20611.4}, {"text": "referred to the fact that the big white tent of the Canadian baking Championship", "start": 20611.4, "end": 20616.558}, {"text": "is actually erected at Winfield or at least when that's being", "start": 20616.558, "end": 20621.84}, {"text": "filmed through the chair that that's correct it is a tidbit a sort of popular culture tidbit I thought about including", "start": 20621.84, "end": 20628.958}, {"text": "and and didn't but I appreciate that that is the the site of the filming of that CBC series anyway thank you and I", "start": 20628.958, "end": 20637.24}, {"text": "think it's a fantastic report thank you very much other", "start": 20637.24, "end": 20644.16}, {"text": "questions seeing them thank you so much Liz and discussions amongst", "start": 20646.04, "end": 20653.36}, {"text": "ourselves saying no discussion we have a staff Report with recommendations before", "start": 20656.36, "end": 20661.718}, {"text": "us would anybody care to move the recommendations in the report Alex thank you very much all those in", "start": 20661.718, "end": 20669.36}, {"text": "favor motion carries that concludes our business for", "start": 20669.36, "end": 20674.718}, {"text": "today thank you very much I I don't see everybody until 2025 so enjoy the rest of 2024 and I", "start": 20674.718, "end": 20683.28}, {"text": "really hope that I get to see everybody in person at our January meeting it'd be", "start": 20683.28, "end": 20688.84}, {"text": "very nice to be able to meet on those terms and together but until then thank you for your time today thank you to", "start": 20688.84, "end": 20694.958}, {"text": "staff and clerks and all of the public that have attended today um it's it's", "start": 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