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"clerk uh yes a revised agenda was posted on Friday December 6th which included an", "start": 1842.6, "end": 1848.159}, {"text": "updated purchasing various staff report an amendment to the general signing bylaw and delegations received prior to", "start": 1848.159, "end": 1854.159}, {"text": "the deadline which were published in the revised agenda since that time staff have received a delegation request after", "start": 1854.159, "end": 1860.32}, {"text": "the registration deadline from Fred Hannah uh with respect to uh an addition to item 6.1 request for staff report", "start": 1860.32, "end": 1868}, {"text": "regarding roundabouts uh which is listed as item uh 9.4 since this request was", "start": 1868, "end": 1874.039}, {"text": "received after the deadline a motion to wave rules of procedure to allow this delegation will be required this motion", "start": 1874.039, "end": 1879.919}, {"text": "has been prepared for the chair this evening for council's consideration later on today's 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"participate these instructions will be provided later on in the agenda where we will be holding the public meetings and", "start": 1964.96, "end": 1971.039}, {"text": "information about how to connect remotely will be scrolling across the live stream video we've also received", "start": 1971.039, "end": 1976.799}, {"text": "delegations to be added to the agenda which do not require a motion to wave rules since they are with respect to the", "start": 1976.799, "end": 1982.08}, {"text": "statutory public meetings these public meeting delegations that we've been made aware of will be prompted by the chair", "start": 1982.08, "end": 1987.84}, {"text": "during the appropriate time in this evening's agenda all written submissions received have been circulated to members", "start": 1987.84, "end": 1993.24}, {"text": "of Council in advance of the meeting and lastly bylaws to approve Heritage designations at", "start": 1993.24, "end": 1999.159}, {"text": "11017 w line and 10266 second line 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Committee of council councelor best will be in the chair and that will be dealt with at that", "start": 2049.119, "end": 2055.158}, {"text": "time councelor Ali thank you Mr uh mayor I have um the", "start": 2055.159, "end": 2061.52}, {"text": "conflict on the same item um my children are part of one of the uh soccer groups", "start": 2061.52, "end": 2067.079}, {"text": "where uh that is receiving Community Fund thank you are there any further", "start": 2067.079, "end": 2075.04}, {"text": "disclosures being none uh again this concludes this portion of the uh council", "start": 2075.04, "end": 2081.72}, {"text": "meeting councelor best if you will assume the uh chair and just give us a couple of minutes and we'll turn things", "start": 2081.72, "end": 2087.839}, {"text": "uh around there so very good this portion is now", "start": 2087.839, "end": 2093.76}, {"text": "concluded e", "start": 2096.64, "end": 2100.68}, {"text": "thank you worship and welcome ladies and gentlemen our first uh item is the waving the rules and has been moved by", "start": 2134.88, "end": 2141.72}, {"text": "mayor CR and second by councelor Keli that the council waves the rules of procedure to allow a delegation of Fred", "start": 2141.72, "end": 2147.52}, {"text": "Hannah regarding the Motions of consideration requests for a staff report regarding roundabouts for this", "start": 2147.52, "end": 2152.72}, {"text": "evening's agenda any questions the motion if not all those in favor motions", "start": 2152.72, "end": 2160.44}, {"text": "carried and we now have uh the consent items 5.1 to 5.8 does anyone have any", "start": 2166.76, "end": 2172.44}, {"text": "questions or uh comments if not it's been moved by councelor Jaz and second by councelor m", "start": 2172.44, "end": 2179.359}, {"text": "that consent items 5.1 to 5.8 be approved all those in", "start": 2179.359, "end": 2184.64}, {"text": "favor carried", "start": 2184.64, "end": 2188.64}, {"text": "yep yes and uh now we going to the public meeting process that we make Milton and the clerk will be reading the", "start": 2191.079, "end": 2197.8}, {"text": "uh information", "start": 2197.8, "end": 2201.28}, {"text": "my apologies we have to do the delegation first we do have to to follow the script here so I call upon uh Mr", "start": 2218.44, "end": 2226.04}, {"text": "Brian duza to come forward as regarding item consideration 9.4 Mr soua like to", "start": 2226.04, "end": 2231.92}, {"text": "step forward and press the microphone button thank", "start": 2231.92, "end": 2236.52}, {"text": "you good evening your worship Council and guests as you heard my name is Brian I'm a resident of Ward 4 and I'm just", "start": 2239.48, "end": 2246.599}, {"text": "reassuring you I don't come to Council meetings this often it just happens to be the last few a few items have been up", "start": 2246.599, "end": 2252.319}, {"text": "there so I I want to come speak uh I'm here today to speak on two items I'll start with the first um both brought up", "start": 2252.319, "end": 2259.16}, {"text": "by councelor Ki and councelor Ali in regards to staff report 9.4 about", "start": 2259.16, "end": 2265.28}, {"text": "roundabouts um this one is a little different than my last one um just from my professional as an educator I believe", "start": 2265.28, "end": 2270.72}, {"text": "the report is needed and is important to safeguard the kids of Milton I believe having the report to look at roundabouts", "start": 2270.72, "end": 2276.319}, {"text": "and crossing guards is a good First Step but also to look at traffic flow speed", "start": 2276.319, "end": 2282.119}, {"text": "and also incidents on streets where schools border main roads uh specifically I would mention Thompson", "start": 2282.119, "end": 2288.96}, {"text": "Louis Anon and soon to be South Bronte where there will be major retail spaces", "start": 2288.96, "end": 2294.079}, {"text": "to draw students across the street to go buy their lunches and despite the", 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help a child in with paramedics to an ambulance to go to McMaster but then further speaking to", "start": 2335.72, "end": 2341.68}, {"text": "the parents why they're in a room with 10 medical practitioners uh simply because of crosswalk so the scope of the", "start": 2341.68, "end": 2349.76}, {"text": "current uh 9.4 is good I would just say it's potentially look at it more from", "start": 2349.76, "end": 2354.839}, {"text": "speed limits but also where they are and if there's any incidents as I described before um so that's what I have to say", "start": 2354.839, "end": 2360.44}, {"text": "about 9.4 thank you uh thank you sir and is any questions or comments if not", "start": 2360.44, "end": 2366.72}, {"text": "thank you very much your presentation I'll be calling you back for the next item soon and have Mr Fred Hannah come", "start": 2366.72, "end": 2371.88}, {"text": "forward", "start": 2371.88, "end": 2374.279}, {"text": "please I dropped my son every morning to the new Catholic School on ceron and I", "start": 2381.599, "end": 2387.839}, {"text": "had The Misfortune about a month or so ago to witness a child getting hit by a car I don't think anybody here in", "start": 2387.839, "end": 2394.319}, {"text": "Council like to witness that again they have been four incidents of people", "start": 2394.319, "end": 2400.359}, {"text": "getting hit and numerous near misses I happen to watch one the other day I", "start": 2400.359, "end": 2407.44}, {"text": "implore Council to do away with that roundabout yes it saves cars from damage", "start": 2407.44, "end": 2415.079}, {"text": "but it Expos our kids to needless harm I want my son to come home go to school", "start": 2415.079, "end": 2421.56}, {"text": "and come home safe every day and without with that roundabout I have no faith", "start": 2421.56, "end": 2428.119}, {"text": "that that will ever happen I see kids crossing and I see cars not respecting the flashing light and just zipping", "start": 2428.119, "end": 2435.92}, {"text": "through sadly not everybody obeys the rules of the road a traffic light that", "start": 2435.92, "end": 2442.88}, {"text": "stopped the cars further back from the intersection preventing them from turning to the left or right you stop", "start": 2442.88, "end": 2450}, {"text": "the traffic the kids go through you resume the traffic and of course you reduce the speeds and you choke it it's", "start": 2450, "end": 2457.28}, {"text": "it's bad enough that we have five or six schools on S lauron adding roundabout is", "start": 2457.28, "end": 2463.88}, {"text": "a recipe for disaster in 1994 I lived at the inter of", "start": 2463.88, "end": 2470.52}, {"text": "nin line and der Road the city of Miss Saga did not put a light at Roser the", "start": 2470.52, "end": 2477.24}, {"text": "next intersection they refused to put it they didn't they couldn't justify it until somebody got hit and passed", "start": 2477.24, "end": 2483.76}, {"text": "away within that week the light was up we don't want to be there but I assure", "start": 2483.76, "end": 2489.88}, {"text": "you from what I see there every morning at that school and greilberger this is", "start": 2489.88, "end": 2497.04}, {"text": "going to happen I implore you folks you have the power to dictate to our city", "start": 2497.04, "end": 2503}, {"text": "staff to take away the roundabout put the traffic light and do the proper", "start": 2503, "end": 2508.599}, {"text": "thing thank you sir if you'll stay there for a second anyone have any questions", "start": 2508.599, "end": 2514.28}, {"text": "delegation if not thank you sir and we go back to item 6.2 we have Mr", "start": 2514.28, "end": 2521.24}, {"text": "dusza come back", "start": 2521.24, "end": 2524.52}, {"text": "please been busy I apologize um just wanted to again speak to uh councelor", "start": 2532.56, "end": 2538.88}, {"text": "Kelis and councelor Ali's Motion in regards to gym space um we all know", "start": 2538.88, "end": 2544.92}, {"text": "Milton's growing uh I always say if you move to Milton man woman and child you will be having a baby very soon because", "start": 2544.92, "end": 2550.8}, {"text": "just the way the town look is growing uh gym space is at a premium and despite", "start": 2550.8, "end": 2555.88}, {"text": "new schools being built um the gym space is being utilized I myself was only able to secure an 8 to nine uh gym space", "start": 2555.88, "end": 2564.079}, {"text": "after about two months of trying and the price for it changed three times from the rental fee then an administration", "start": 2564.079, "end": 2570.04}, {"text": "fee and then oh you got to add a custodian because we didn't factor that in so the the price changed three times", "start": 2570.04, "end": 2575.559}, {"text": "just trying to get that 1 hour of space um as the population grows again it's going to be the uh I would request that", "start": 2575.559, "end": 2582.319}, {"text": "the staff report also look at the needs of indoor turf um it's even scarcer than", "start": 2582.319, "end": 2588.559}, {"text": "the the gyms itself trying to get anything into town and it's h it's a resource that we would need it would", "start": 2588.559, "end": 2594.359}, {"text": "enable more of a fair and equitable distribution of turf in cold months and provide data for potential future needs", "start": 2594.359, "end": 2600.88}, {"text": "especially with the review next year of all of our Parks and Recreation as well I hope that grass fields um as last year", "start": 2600.88, "end": 2608}, {"text": "the grass fields in prime time after school time was unavailable be included in the review and possible looking at", "start": 2608, "end": 2614.52}, {"text": "again private Public Partnerships to increase inventory because there are several private", "start": 2614.52, "end": 2620.2}, {"text": "um private Community groups as mentioned last time and I was here that could we potentially work with them to get those", "start": 2620.2, "end": 2625.96}, {"text": "inventories back in to allow that I look forward to debate on Council on these two items and I thank you for your", "start": 2625.96, "end": 2632.48}, {"text": "time thank you sir presentation councelor Ki sir if you want to stay there for a minute", "start": 2632.48, "end": 2637.68}, {"text": "thanks Mr chair thanks Brian for your delegation there just a quick question you brought up cost at the school gyms for the rental there um what other", "start": 2637.68, "end": 2644.52}, {"text": "barriers do you think exist at the schools in terms of why these spaces are sitting empty in some cases finding the", "start": 2644.52, "end": 2651.44}, {"text": "time um to be Equitable I know I spoke to many of you that you want fair and equitable distribution um and there are", "start": 2651.44, "end": 2659.599}, {"text": "programs in place to allow that but there are some programs though they're well- intended are blocking access to", "start": 2659.599, 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really what are you looking for the public looking for in your request in the", "start": 2743.8, "end": 2750.68}, {"text": "request it's it's been a placements chair I know working agreements with the boards of education for a long time", "start": 2750.68, "end": 2757.079}, {"text": "they've worked at least in my opinion reasonably well so over and above what's already in", "start": 2757.079, "end": 2762.4}, {"text": "place um I could answer or um from what I see itself is and first off just want", "start": 2762.4, "end": 2769.559}, {"text": "to say parks and wreck have been really good in in speaking with me and tolerating some of my emails so first", "start": 2769.559, "end": 2775.319}, {"text": "and foremost I will say that they they've been very gracious on that um my concern always comes back to there's", "start": 2775.319, "end": 2781.599}, {"text": "limited capacity and then it's the priority ranking of the groups that get access to it and if it's like if we say", "start": 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{"text": "affiliate groups who have done the the programs and everything that want this access but by the time it's their turn", "start": 2825.839, "end": 2832.079}, {"text": "they could be number two or number three on the list there's nothing left so it's how do we how we're able to provide a", "start": 2832.079, "end": 2837.2}, {"text": "little bit more of an equitable solution to it while respecting the nonprofit status and everything I'm fully in", "start": 2837.2, "end": 2842.839}, {"text": "agreement with that but that's the only piece I would say is a cap on the amount", "start": 2842.839, "end": 2848.28}, {"text": "anyone else any questions delegation councelor t d sorry this might actually be more for", "start": 2848.28, "end": 2854.64}, {"text": "staff does the current affiliate agreement allow for this type of variation in the agreement like right", "start": 2854.64, "end": 2861.48}, {"text": "now it sounds like it's open so there's is there a way to use the existing 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um would be an", "start": 2908.16, "end": 2914.24}, {"text": "undertaking that's what I thought I guess the question is more is there a mechanism already baked into the current agreement that allows a renegotiation", "start": 2914.72, "end": 2922.119}, {"text": "doesn't sound like it uh I'm not aware of anything that's already baked into the agreement that we", "start": 2922.119, "end": 2928.319}, {"text": "have within the reciprocal agreement although we do work with the boards and have ongoing conversations with them on a regular basis um and obviously the", "start": 2928.319, "end": 2935.72}, {"text": "town's affiliation policy that is something that is directed by Council okay anyone else any questions", "start": 2935.72, "end": 2943.16}, {"text": "delegation if not thank you Ser your presentation moving now on to the public meeting process I'll have the clerk read", "start": 2943.16, "end": 2949.559}, {"text": "out the uh program uh thank you so this is the first public meeting of this evening", "start": 2949.559, "end": 2955.28}, {"text": "it's with regard to we make Melton official plan Council will consider related bylaws at a future meeting if", "start": 2955.28, "end": 2960.96}, {"text": "you wish to be notified of the decision please sign the attendance sheet located at the back table of council chambers or", "start": 2960.96, "end": 2966.799}, {"text": "make a written request to the town clerk at 150 Mary Street Milton or email uh", "start": 2966.799, "end": 2971.88}, {"text": "town clerk milton. CA following a presentation from staff there'll be an opportunity for public comments from", "start": 2971.88, "end": 2977.48}, {"text": "inperson and remote meeting participants and we have a couple of uh delegations already uh registered with us uh during", "start": 2977.48, "end": 2984.119}, {"text": "the presentation uh the phone number will be scrolling across a live stream video for anyone wishing to connect via", "start": 2984.119, "end": 2989.96}, {"text": "Zoom um and our staff will assist you with step-by-step instructions on how to enter and uh connect via phone only as a", "start": 2989.96, "end": 2997.92}, {"text": "reminder the phone number is 1866 511 0021 thank you for that introduction I", "start": 2997.92, "end": 3005.28}, {"text": "understand that commissioner development services Jill Hogan will introduce uh the", "start": 3005.28, "end": 3011.079}, {"text": "presentation uh through you Mr chair I'd like to introduce Gail Anderson she is", "start": 3011.079, "end": 3016.559}, {"text": "the senior planner who has been leading our new official plan project Gail will be making a brief presentation thank you", "start": 3016.559, "end": 3026.72}, {"text": "so good evening Mr chair and good evening Council my name is Gail Anderson and I'm a senior Planner on the uh on", "start": 3027.88, "end": 3034.48}, {"text": "J's team the policy planning and Urban Design Team and I'm also the Project Lead for the we make Milton official", "start": 3034.48, "end": 3039.96}, {"text": "plan review um it is a team effort so there are many staff that have been involved in it and I'm speaking on their", "start": 3039.96, "end": 3046.72}, {"text": "behalf so this is a statutory public meeting under the planning act under Section 17 and section 26 of the", "start": 3046.72, "end": 3053.319}, {"text": "planning Act and the purpose of the meeting is to provide council with information and an update on the we make", "start": 3053.319, "end": 3059.04}, {"text": "Milton official plan and it's also an opportunity to give uh members of the public and interested parties the", "start": 3059.04, "end": 3065.079}, {"text": "opportunity to delegate to council through the official Plan update", "start": 3065.079, "end": 3072.2}, {"text": "the town has been developing the land use policies that will guide growth and development to the year", "start": 3072.2, "end": 3077.839}, {"text": "2051 early in the process we developed the new vision for the official plan and", "start": 3077.839, "end": 3083.52}, {"text": "it involved choice and providing opportunity and options as we grow and as we change", "start": 3083.52, "end": 3090.28}, {"text": "we also developed a set of principles that would guide the policy writing and the policy", "start": 3090.28, "end": 3096}, {"text": "development in the most recent stage staff have been drafting the new updated policies and these policies are the", "start": 3096, "end": 3103.68}, {"text": "first set of policies so they're 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that was a part of the virtual public meeting was", "start": 3198.24, "end": 3204.079}, {"text": "recorded and that was posted and made available on the let's talk Milton engagement platform so interested", "start": 3204.079, "end": 3210.24}, {"text": "parties uh could watch the video at any time as well as could read the policies at any", "start": 3210.24, "end": 3216.52}, {"text": "time we received numerous uh comments through the let's talk Milton platform", "start": 3217.48, "end": 3222.92}, {"text": "as well as written submissions that were sent via email to staff and these comments informed the editing of the", "start": 3222.92, "end": 3229.24}, {"text": "draft", "start": 3229.24, "end": 3231.68}, {"text": "document um based on the comments received and on discussions and so forth that we had we did do some amendments to", "start": 3234.28, "end": 3241.599}, {"text": "the policies so some in some cases some new policies had to be added others had to be amended or deleted so for 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2051 so we're able to remove that policy at this time in addition", "start": 3289.48, "end": 3297.319}, {"text": "because the regional official plan has now become an official plan of the town of Milton staff also did an initial", "start": 3297.319, "end": 3303.319}, {"text": "review of the regional official plan policies and an initial recommendation of policies from that plan that can be", "start": 3303.319, "end": 3309.559}, {"text": "removed at this stage because the regional policy direction is already reflected in the town of Milton official", "start": 3309.559, "end": 3315.599}, {"text": "plan or if there was a case where it conflicted with the new policy Direction", "start": 3315.599, "end": 3322.24}, {"text": "since the proposed new policies replace the Preamble chapters one and chapters 2", "start": 3326.799, "end": 3332.039}, {"text": "we're proposing that those policies be removed and the old policies are ultimately replaced with the new", "start": 3332.039, "end": 3337.799}, {"text": "policies the new uh Vision direction to the year 20 2051 in addition there are some policies", "start": 3337.799, "end": 3345.16}, {"text": "in the ineffect official plan which will be removed and others that will remain and then in chapter in part three will", "start": 3345.16, "end": 3352.16}, {"text": "be the um Regional official plan policies that are still needed in order for the region to be able to implement", "start": 3352.16, "end": 3359.88}, {"text": "their sorry the region to be able to implement their mandate so in the interm", "start": 3359.88, "end": 3365.48}, {"text": "the regional the town of Milton official planner red doents the vision to 2051", "start": 3365.48, "end": 3371.68}, {"text": "the in effect policies that must remain in place in order for us to have interterm policies that are more", "start": 3371.68, "end": 3377.2}, {"text": "detailed and implement the vision and the remaining Regional official plan policies that are needed at that this", "start": 3377.2, "end": 3383.079}, {"text": "time in order for us to be able to implement the mandate ultimately once we have", "start": 3383.079, "end": 3389.359}, {"text": "completed part two of our policy drafting all of the policies in the ineffec official plan and in the", "start": 3389.359, "end": 3395.559}, {"text": "regional official plan will become replaced with our new policies that we'll be working on and we'll have the new complete town of Milton official", "start": 3395.559, "end": 3404.279}, {"text": "plan in terms of our next steps Town staff will continue to work with um", "start": 3404.76, "end": 3410.76}, {"text": "interested parties and continue to engage with them on the proposed draft we intend to", "start": 3410.76, "end": 3416.799}, {"text": "report back to Council in q1 of 2051 sorry in q1 of of next year of", "start": 3416.799, "end": 3423.079}, {"text": "2025 uh with the proposed draft policies to 2051 with under the new planning act um", "start": 3423.079, "end": 3430}, {"text": "structure the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing is the approval Authority so upon council's approval of", "start": 3430, "end": 3436.4}, {"text": "the updated policies we would be working with the province our submission would be to the province for approval and then", "start": 3436.4, "end": 3443.079}, {"text": "we would work with the province through that approval process while that's taking place staff can then begin to", "start": 3443.079, "end": 3449}, {"text": "draft the phase two more detailed implementation policies and so we begin to really focus in on that uh that set", "start": 3449, "end": 3456.319}, {"text": "of work so that involves drafting the policies undertaking several sets of consultations on that and revising them", "start": 3456.319, "end": 3462.839}, {"text": "before being able to bring those to council for consideration that concludes my", "start": 3462.839, "end": 3468.64}, {"text": "presentation uh thank you Mr chair uh thank you", "start": 3468.64, "end": 3474.119}, {"text": "presentation yeah thank you uh chair uh I just wonder if there's a Common Thread", "start": 3474.119, "end": 3480.24}, {"text": "that you've run into so far and I know we're early early in the process with", "start": 3480.24, "end": 3485.64}, {"text": "the requests I guess observations Andor opinions from those individuals that you", "start": 3485.64, "end": 3490.72}, {"text": "may have been interacting with to date uh through you Mr chair uh we have", "start": 3490.72, "end": 3498.88}, {"text": "received support for our things such as our Urban structure uh so we did hear", "start": 3498.88, "end": 3504.119}, {"text": "back from from uh participants that they were supportive of what we're proposing", "start": 3504.119, "end": 3509.559}, {"text": "in terms of the urban structure we didn't receive any major concerns uh we did receive requests for clarification", "start": 3509.559, "end": 3516.68}, {"text": "of policies that we've gone through and we've begun to make those um requests", "start": 3516.68, "end": 3521.839}, {"text": "for understanding the details around what has been proposed within some of the because the policies are are higher", "start": 3521.839, "end": 3529.2}, {"text": "level at this time there are requests to begin to understand the more detailed implementation behind them um and I", "start": 3529.2, "end": 3535.119}, {"text": "would say those are the the common threads that we did receive counc Tess", "start": 3535.119, "end": 3542.2}, {"text": "jckson thanks very much uh just with respect to the provincial review process", "start": 3542.2, "end": 3547.559}, {"text": "this is the first official plan exercise I've been through how long do we expect the province to take before getting back", "start": 3547.559, "end": 3553.359}, {"text": "to us with comments or approval through you Mr chair we haven't um The Province hasn't given a a", "start": 3553.359, "end": 3559.92}, {"text": "deadline in terms of how long they would be um they would take that through the", "start": 3559.92, "end": 3565.559}, {"text": "process do post it on the ER and they do receive uh comments back uh they then", "start": 3565.559, "end": 3571.359}, {"text": "would provide us with any recommended changes or approval or so forth but I have not heard from The Province if", "start": 3571.359, "end": 3577.88}, {"text": "there is a timeline I guess I would refer to Jill what I can say is that uh the", "start": 3577.88, "end": 3584.44}, {"text": "province has been very responsive to date when we've been sending them updates on our official plan they've", "start": 3584.44, "end": 3590.48}, {"text": "given us very positive feedback in terms of their review time when we send them the full package I I I don't want to uh", "start": 3590.48, "end": 3598.359}, {"text": "put a date on that that being said um I've been very impressed with how", "start": 3598.359, "end": 3603.48}, {"text": "efficient they've been to date with responding to us on our op so fingers crossed it will be an efficient", "start": 3603.48, "end": 3611.48}, {"text": "process that's good news and just a follow-up question I I think there are some Rumblings about potential election", "start": 3611.76, "end": 3617.88}, {"text": "in the spring do we anticipate that there might be a delay in on our end due", "start": 3617.88, "end": 3624.079}, {"text": "to an election or a change of administration uh through the chair to councelor tesser", "start": 3624.079, "end": 3631.16}, {"text": "derksen yes I've heard rumors of of a a provincial election uh what I can tell", "start": 3631.16, "end": 3637.079}, {"text": "you um through working with other provincial agencies there is that", "start": 3637.079, "end": 3642.319}, {"text": "blackout period where no real decisions are being made that being said where we're at with our official plan we won't", "start": 3642.319, "end": 3649.079}, {"text": "be in a position to send the full package for their approval this spring so hopefully if there is an election", "start": 3649.079, "end": 3654.92}, {"text": "that will all be done with by the time that we actually forward our plan for approval thank you councelor", "start": 3654.92, "end": 3662.039}, {"text": "cheler uh thanks Mr chairman uh just as an aside uh most postings are 30 days", "start": 3662.039, "end": 3669.48}, {"text": "unless they're deemed to be different than that and and I don't know that an official plan is any different than any", "start": 3669.48, "end": 3675.2}, {"text": "other it's typically 30 days uh I was wondering uh if staff have", "start": 3675.2, "end": 3682.4}, {"text": "contemplated a working session with Council prior to to uh you know the", "start": 3682.4, "end": 3687.72}, {"text": "final official plan document coming back as well as a a working session around", "start": 3687.72, "end": 3694.119}, {"text": "the implementation planning as well because quite frankly having been a part of previous official plans uh the devil", "start": 3694.119, "end": 3702.119}, {"text": "is in the details when it comes as you know uh as it come when when it comes to implementation and I think it's probably", "start": 3702.119, "end": 3708.359}, {"text": "really important that uh there be some discussion at a working level between", "start": 3708.359, "end": 3714.72}, {"text": "staff and Council on the document itself but also on the implementation", "start": 3714.72, "end": 3720.48}, {"text": "plan sorry go ahead Joel uh through the Char of councelor chalar absolutely I", "start": 3720.839, "end": 3726.079}, {"text": "think this is this certainly would warrant a uh Council Workshop when the when the time is right we have had one", "start": 3726.079, "end": 3732.039}, {"text": "Council workshop on the op but as we get into those detailed policies I think it's imperative that we have a session", "start": 3732.039, "end": 3738.2}, {"text": "with Council and we'll certainly be scheduling one thank you thank you coun CH", "start": 3738.2, "end": 3744.76}, {"text": "councelor Ellie thank you Mr chair through you this question is uh for the planning um folks", "start": 3744.76, "end": 3751.72}, {"text": "in our town um I know that where we are at in the official plan process is", "start": 3751.72, "end": 3758.359}, {"text": "trying to make sure that we are keeping what is relevant and deleting what is not and to that end my question is when", "start": 3758.359, "end": 3766.68}, {"text": "you're doing that process what is the biggest change you're noticing in the previous official plan and the new one", "start": 3766.68, "end": 3774.359}, {"text": "what do you think is the biggest change um our future Direction looks", "start": 3774.359, "end": 3781.24}, {"text": "like um I think the biggest change is is in the structure so I mean the overall", "start": 3781.24, "end": 3787.24}, {"text": "goal is creating complete Equitable communities so we are looking at um allowing for more mix of uses in order", "start": 3787.24, "end": 3794.64}, {"text": "to really ensure that there's accessibility throughout the community so we have looked at for example the", "start": 3794.64, "end": 3799.96}, {"text": "complete neighborhoods and we have looked at where are there perhaps gaps in the neighborhoods and then opportunities so for example what does", "start": 3799.96, "end": 3807.4}, {"text": "access to retail look like how far do people have to travel to get to parks and then how can we what changes can we", "start": 3807.4, "end": 3814.319}, {"text": "put in place in order to as we grow and develop or as we have Redevelopment what requirements do we", "start": 3814.319, "end": 3821.16}, {"text": "want to have in order to ensure that that accessibility is created and I think that's probably the main change", "start": 3821.16, "end": 3828.2}, {"text": "and we looked at it for both the urban and the rural areas so for example we looked at the hamlets and we looked at", "start": 3828.2, "end": 3833.279}, {"text": "we had discussions with folks about what would you like to see as we grow and it it really was that accessibility and", "start": 3833.279, "end": 3840.16}, {"text": "accessibility to different types of uses so that not everybody has to drive to one area in order to access shopping in", "start": 3840.16, "end": 3846.76}, {"text": "order to access to the Daily needs and then accessity to Green Space was another one that definitely came", "start": 3846.76, "end": 3853.76}, {"text": "up oh thank you would would you say that Transit would also be a very big change", "start": 3853.76, "end": 3859.4}, {"text": "in how focused this new official plan would be on transit because when you say walkable communities Transit is a big", "start": 3859.4, "end": 3866.119}, {"text": "big portion of that Transit has always been a goal of the town of Milton so I think it's continuing to work with the", "start": 3866.119, "end": 3872}, {"text": "folks in the transportation department um I think it's building on some really great policies that were already there", "start": 3872, "end": 3878.52}, {"text": "uh the transportation master plan is being updated so ensuring that those two documents um are supportive and that the", "start": 3878.52, "end": 3884.72}, {"text": "policies of the official plan recognize the transportation master plan um so I think it's it's building on a good", "start": 3884.72, "end": 3891}, {"text": "foundation that was already there but absolutely that was one of the ones that was one of the comments we heard quite a bit through let's talk Milton and then", "start": 3891, "end": 3897.92}, {"text": "one of the ones that we had wanted to address so making sure that we worked with our Transit and transportation teams in order to make sure that those", "start": 3897.92, "end": 3905.16}, {"text": "the transportation master plan and the transit master plan integrate with the official plan so that the proposed land", "start": 3905.16, "end": 3910.52}, {"text": "use structure is supportive of the goals that those will be achieving thank you anyone else Council", "start": 3910.52, "end": 3918.599}, {"text": "want to speak thank you for your presentation thank you Mr chair now get the", "start": 3918.599, "end": 3923.96}, {"text": "delegation point of the process and just to confirm we have three registered delegations and also", "start": 3923.96, "end": 3930.44}, {"text": "anyone in the audience or online can also speak you have up to five minutes I invite Mr Mitch marot to uh come forward", "start": 3930.44, "end": 3938.64}, {"text": "my apologies about pronunciation", "start": 3938.64, "end": 3944.68}, {"text": "sorry okay my apologies he is", "start": 3944.68, "end": 3948.838}, {"text": "remote right good evening Mr chair members of council coun and staff thank", "start": 3951, "end": 3956.599}, {"text": "you uh for allowing me a few minutes to speak this evening I appreciate uh the", "start": 3956.599, "end": 3966}, {"text": "uh commentary that Gail uh was just able to provide I had the opportunity to uh", "start": 3966, "end": 3973.079}, {"text": "meet with Gail uh via Zoom uh recently and um uh she's been quite helpful thus", "start": 3973.079, "end": 3981.44}, {"text": "far in the process so I appreciate that assistance from staff", "start": 3981.44, "end": 3986.64}, {"text": "um if it's possible I did have a couple of slides uh I'm not sure if you are", "start": 3986.64, "end": 3992.079}, {"text": "able to view those at this point just give you a moment to pull those up please", "start": 3992.079, "end": 4000.4}, {"text": "I believe we have them now okay excellent thank you all right so um the", "start": 4017.319, "end": 4024.319}, {"text": "uh uh lands specifically that I uh wish to address you with uh tonight are", "start": 4024.319, "end": 4031.839}, {"text": "located uh in the southwest corner of Milton uh you can see here uh by this", "start": 4031.839, "end": 4039.2}, {"text": "map that they are uh north of number two Side Road and adjacent to uh Bell School", "start": 4039.2, "end": 4046.52}, {"text": "line um the lands are are presently farmed um and this uh map here shows the", "start": 4046.52, "end": 4056.52}, {"text": "current official plan uh designation of these lands uh that being a natural", "start": 4056.52, "end": 4062.52}, {"text": "heritage uh designation uh you'll note that uh immediately to the north of these lands", "start": 4062.52, "end": 4070.279}, {"text": "uh there's an agricultural uh designation on on those", "start": 4070.279, "end": 4076.119}, {"text": "lands um and lands to the uh south and east are uh all loc uh also located", "start": 4076.119, "end": 4084.64}, {"text": "within the natural heritage designation uh I'd also uh note that um", "start": 4084.64, "end": 4092.839}, {"text": "the lands uh South up here below uh what appears to be a red and green dash line", "start": 4092.839, "end": 4099.88}, {"text": "uh those lands are in the green belt uh area uh whereas these lands are located", "start": 4099.88, "end": 4106.4}, {"text": "outside of of the green belt um so what I would uh what I would like", "start": 4106.4, "end": 4113.6}, {"text": "to note and I'll have asked for the slide to be changed momentarily uh now is fine as well uh perhaps this is", "start": 4113.6, "end": 4120.838}, {"text": "better you can see uh at the North End of uh the subject lands uh there is a uh", "start": 4120.839, "end": 4128.798}, {"text": "Valley system and water course that runs through that area uh however um you can", "start": 4128.799, "end": 4134.838}, {"text": "see beneath the uh zoning layer the uh agricultural A-1 Zone that's uh shown", "start": 4134.839, "end": 4142.44}, {"text": "here uh you can see through that layer that um essentially you have uh open", "start": 4142.44, "end": 4148.199}, {"text": "field here uh open farmland and so uh one of the one of the items that um that", 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interest in our suggestion that", "start": 4262.239, "end": 4269.52}, {"text": "uh if that uh schedule n uh were to be amended as part of uh as part of this", "start": 4269.52, "end": 4276.199}, {"text": "official plan review process that uh these lands as well being located um uh", "start": 4276.199, "end": 4284.88}, {"text": "in a good place for future employment uses uh proximity to uh various Transit", "start": 4284.88, "end": 4293.239}, {"text": "uh corridors uh Transportation corridors I should say uh and so on that these", "start": 4293.239, "end": 4299.199}, {"text": "lands would be appropriate to be considered uh as part of the um future", "start": 4299.199, "end": 4304.96}, {"text": "strategic employment area um I'll leave it at that um and uh", "start": 4304.96, "end": 4311.04}, {"text": "would be happy to entertain any questions thank you your presentation any questions from", "start": 4311.04, "end": 4316.679}, {"text": "counselors if not thank you sir and uh we'll move on to the next one and staff will be adding this to your to your", "start": 4316.679, "end": 4323.4}, {"text": "deliberations thank you our next presentation is also remote by John", "start": 4323.4, "end": 4328.639}, {"text": "obstein representing the Federation of agriculture", "start": 4328.639, "end": 4333.32}, {"text": "camera and go on", "start": 4352.199, "end": 4355.52}, {"text": "here hello everyone can you hear me yes perfectly great uh your worship Mr chair", "start": 4357.32, "end": 4365.04}, {"text": "uh Council staff my name is John obstein I live at 9636 second line ASA and I'm", "start": 4365.04, "end": 4370.36}, {"text": "here representing the hton Federation of Agriculture uh and I I wish I could be there in person tonight my wife had a", "start": 4370.36, "end": 4376.719}, {"text": "little medical procedure this afternoon so thought it was best that I stick near the house um we uh we at the hton", "start": 4376.719, "end": 4383.92}, {"text": "Federation of Agriculture the HFA appreciate this opportunity to speak to the Milton official plan tonight uh", "start": 4383.92, "end": 4390.84}, {"text": "firstly I would like to thank Gail and the planning staff who have had a we for", "start": 4390.84, "end": 4396.12}, {"text": "having productive two-way open and honest communication with us as representativ of the farming community", "start": 4396.12, "end": 4402.96}, {"text": "and I know this active dialogue helps both both parties understand each other our needs our wants the challenges we", "start": 4402.96, "end": 4409.76}, {"text": "even had a little farm tour with planning staff and showed them uh you know went around the the Town showing", "start": 4409.76, "end": 4415.88}, {"text": "them some of the challenges that uh some farmers face from uh you know everything", "start": 4415.88, "end": 4421.12}, {"text": "from planning to kite string and things like that they can tell you the stories of that so hopefully uh uh that was a", "start": 4421.12, "end": 4427.84}, {"text": "very very great thing to to for us to work on together um we feel it may be", "start": 4427.84, "end": 4434.159}, {"text": "mutually beneficial to formalize this creation of an with the creation of an agricultureal advisory committee at the", "start": 4434.159, "end": 4440.08}, {"text": "hton region the hton agriculture advisory committee served for well over 40 years uh advising the region on", "start": 4440.08, "end": 4447.28}, {"text": "issues of agricultural industry uh the Agri food industry uh land use planning Economic Development tourism tourism and", "start": 4447.28, "end": 4454}, {"text": "much more now that the province has changed the planning responsibilities from the region to the town an advisory", "start": 4454, "end": 4459.88}, {"text": "committee uh I think would be appropriate uh okay so St has listened", "start": 4459.88, "end": 4465.639}, {"text": "and heard our concerns and Incorporated many thoughts through this draft one example is the planning in the urban", "start": 4465.639, "end": 4472.4}, {"text": "area Edge so that we consider to consider the rural area just outside that border Edge planning can help farms", "start": 4472.4, "end": 4479.84}, {"text": "grow and thrive in this environment we still have some concerns which could affect the long-term", "start": 4479.84, "end": 4485.28}, {"text": "viability of farms farmers and the Agri food system in Milton a key and", "start": 4485.28, "end": 4491.28}, {"text": "fundamental issue for the long-term viability is the ability of the availability of prime Farmland", "start": 4491.28, "end": 4499.32}, {"text": "Prime Farmland is is a valuable scarce resource less than 5% of the province is", "start": 4499.32, "end": 4505.76}, {"text": "prime Farmland so therefore when land is permanently removed from production it", "start": 4505.76, "end": 4512.04}, {"text": "is a great loss with a Comm a communative negative effect and this is", "start": 4512.04, "end": 4517.88}, {"text": "not just for new development but also other activities things like illegal truck parking uh planting trees major", "start": 4517.88, "end": 4525.719}, {"text": "tree planting some recreational activities just to name a few take land out of the critical mass of Farmland we", "start": 4525.719, "end": 4532.719}, {"text": "understand that land use planning is about priorities and sometimes sacrifice sacrifices must be made but we feel if", "start": 4532.719, "end": 4539.679}, {"text": "the egg lands are taking out of Agriculture forever there must be a strong rationale and every Avenue of", "start": 4539.679, "end": 4546.56}, {"text": "Alternatives have been exercised considering what an important scarce resource it is another issue uh is", "start": 4546.56, "end": 4554.56}, {"text": "planning Maps they are a key tool to planners not but not only to planners but to land owners and to Farmers we", "start": 4554.56, "end": 4561.639}, {"text": "ensure that uh we are are want to ensure that maps and designations are ground truthed aerial maps can have some issues", "start": 4561.639, "end": 4569.08}, {"text": "uh I'll give you one example from my farm uh most recent Regional mapping with our own Farm uh the key feature map", "start": 4569.08, "end": 4577.4}, {"text": "ran right through our house and actually went right through our bedroom my wife was in the key feature or the no touch", "start": 4577.4, "end": 4583.96}, {"text": "Zone that was her side of the bed and I was outside that zone and I can assure you that was no fun for anyone so uh", "start": 4583.96, "end": 4591.92}, {"text": "mapping is important so please make sure uh we're we're cue on that another issue", "start": 4591.92, "end": 4597.639}, {"text": "is that uh the NHS or the green system can limit the farmers's uh ability to", "start": 4597.639, "end": 4603.719}, {"text": "build agricultural infrastructure such as barns perhaps creating a buffer zone", "start": 4603.719, "end": 4609.44}, {"text": "around the farm cluster uh could provide more clarity for that for farmers in the long-term future", "start": 4609.44, "end": 4616.6}, {"text": "uh the hrfa you know there's a lot of other little things but I think we can keep discussing them and keeping those", "start": 4616.6, "end": 4622.159}, {"text": "the communication open the the hrfa looks forward to continuing", "start": 4622.159, "end": 4627.239}, {"text": "communication with Town staff for the betterment of farmers and all the citizens of Milton as Milton grows it", "start": 4627.239, "end": 4634.76}, {"text": "becomes more important that we continue to be the best of town and country the", "start": 4634.76, "end": 4639.96}, {"text": "agricultural system that is flexible and prosperous and farming with a clear path", "start": 4639.96, "end": 4645.239}, {"text": "to a dynamic future is a benefit to our entire Community here in Milton no M you", "start": 4645.239, "end": 4650.8}, {"text": "know to uh from the cities to the to the to the country we all eat so hopefully", "start": 4650.8, "end": 4656.56}, {"text": "we can uh make sure that we have a long prosperous uh time with agriculture in", "start": 4656.56, "end": 4661.639}, {"text": "our community I know I've been a part of it for more than 50 years here so I look", "start": 4661.639, "end": 4667.32}, {"text": "forward to uh more Generations coming through with that so thank you very much Mr chair have any questions yeah thank", "start": 4667.32, "end": 4674.84}, {"text": "thank you John for your presentation and adding a little bit of levity to this uh procedures any questions of the", "start": 4674.84, "end": 4682.36}, {"text": "delegation if not thank you John and your comments will be added to the discussion our next delegation is in", "start": 4682.36, "end": 4689.52}, {"text": "person sand deep samb if you like to come forward please thank", "start": 4689.52, "end": 4695.56}, {"text": "you hi good evening Mr Mayor chair members of Council my name is sand sambi", "start": 4701.28, "end": 4707.04}, {"text": "I've been a proud resident and business owner in Milton since 2009 um today regarding the town plan", "start": 4707.04, "end": 4714.6}, {"text": "I'm speaking on behalf of Gara Singh Saba Milton an initiative formed by like-minded seik Punjabi families living", "start": 4714.6, "end": 4720.92}, {"text": "in our town as you know Milton's Punjabi Community has been steadily growing particularly since the last census in", "start": 4720.92, "end": 4728}, {"text": "2021 many families including my own are committed to building a stronger sense of community here in Milton one way we", "start": 4728, "end": 4735.199}, {"text": "hope to achieve this is by establishing a Gorda it's a place of worship for the sea", "start": 4735.199, "end": 4740.239}, {"text": "Community right now we're renting facilities at the fairgrounds to hold our services once a month but with", "start": 4740.239, "end": 4745.6}, {"text": "Rising costs and increasing attendance it's making it challenging to sustain these gatherings now as awareness of our", "start": 4745.6, "end": 4752.6}, {"text": "services grow along with the the seek population in Milton we anticipate quickly outgrowing this space so we're", "start": 4752.6, "end": 4759.52}, {"text": "an organized group with a clear and United goal to secure land and build a permanent place of work worship that", "start": 4759.52, "end": 4765.159}, {"text": "will not only serve as a spiritual center but also as a space for cultural and community activities for all", "start": 4765.159, "end": 4770.4}, {"text": "residents of Milton now in this regard we respectfully ask Council to consider", "start": 4770.4, "end": 4775.679}, {"text": "the growing needs of our community When Future lands are zoned as places of worship additionally we kindly request", "start": 4775.679, "end": 4782.88}, {"text": "to be kept informed and included in the planning and development processes for new neighborhoods so that we can", "start": 4782.88, "end": 4788.32}, {"text": "actively participate in these discussions and work collabora collaboratively to fulfill our community's needs on behalf of myself", "start": 4788.32, "end": 4795.56}, {"text": "and our group thank you for your time and the opportunity to address you all today thank you for your presentation", "start": 4795.56, "end": 4801.96}, {"text": "councilor Ali thank you Mr chair through you thank you so much Cy for coming here today and", "start": 4801.96, "end": 4808.12}, {"text": "representing the gwara Singh Saba um first of all congratulations on um the", "start": 4808.12, "end": 4813.56}, {"text": "grant that you have received from the hton police board I congratulate you and it was received because of the good work", "start": 4813.56, "end": 4819.04}, {"text": "you do in the community just wanted to reiterate that um I'm going to take this moment that I have uh", "start": 4819.04, "end": 4825.199}, {"text": "um the ability to use the mic to ask our staff who have heard your delegation to", "start": 4825.199, "end": 4830.52}, {"text": "see uh what we are doing for places of worship planning in our future I know we", "start": 4830.52, "end": 4836.199}, {"text": "had the troler report come to council where we are actually um asking developers to predesignate spaces for", "start": 4836.199, "end": 4844}, {"text": "places of worship so that is something that is already started but what can we do now to help you that's for the", "start": 4844, "end": 4850.84}, {"text": "planning department uh through the chair to councelor Ali", "start": 4850.84, "end": 4857.36}, {"text": "and to the delegate what we are proposing to do in our new growth area and namely uh the britania secondary", "start": 4857.36, "end": 4864.96}, {"text": "plan which is a large New Growth area in southeast Milton uh we're targeting uh", "start": 4864.96, "end": 4870.159}, {"text": "January to bring that report forward and a secondary plan is kind of that next level of detail on an official plan what", "start": 4870.159, "end": 4877.96}, {"text": "we're proposing to do is to have uh place of worship site reservation policies so basically what that means is", "start": 4877.96, "end": 4885.36}, {"text": "we would require the developers or the land owners to reserve certain sites for", "start": 4885.36, "end": 4890.84}, {"text": "a period of 3 years when when we see where those site Reserve sites are the town of Milton", "start": 4890.84, "end": 4897.92}, {"text": "will be contacting all of the faith groups on our stakeholder list and informing them of pieces of land that", "start": 4897.92, "end": 4905.48}, {"text": "are available and that are zoned for places of worship so that is something", "start": 4905.48, "end": 4911.719}, {"text": "that uh we are we are going to be recommending that Council approve in January and that actually gives Faith", "start": 4911.719, "end": 4918.96}, {"text": "groups an opportunity to potentially purchase a site because as you know it's", "start": 4918.96, "end": 4925.12}, {"text": "difficult to find land a lot of it is bought up by developers many years ago", "start": 4925.12, "end": 4930.88}, {"text": "but by putting in these site reservation policies it will give the faith groups at least an opportunity to purchase land", "start": 4930.88, "end": 4936.639}, {"text": "and realize a new place of worship great anything further counc", "start": 4936.639, "end": 4943.56}, {"text": "mayor CR yeah thank you Mr chairman it was along those uh same lines there uh I believe", "start": 4943.56, "end": 4950.639}, {"text": "and jel can correct me if I'm wrong but it's mandated by the province that we", "start": 4950.639, "end": 4955.88}, {"text": "have to have to make provision for all those uses and including religious as", "start": 4955.88, "end": 4961.92}, {"text": "well so I think what's really critical though is moving and you heard Jill mention that threeyear time frame that", "start": 4961.92, "end": 4968.96}, {"text": "you're prepared to move regardless of what it is or you know whether it's religious whether it's it's a trucking", "start": 4968.96, "end": 4975.639}, {"text": "operation or whatever it is you've got that time frame to work uh within but it's mandatory we must provide that just", "start": 4975.639, "end": 4984.36}, {"text": "how much I'm not sure of that and I'm not sure if Jill uh has any you know in", "start": 4984.36, "end": 4990.239}, {"text": "in acreage wise uh how much has to be set aside for certain uh you know uses", "start": 4990.239, "end": 4997.239}, {"text": "and we have to make you know provision for all uses also we staff can answer that and also assist the delegation", "start": 4997.239, "end": 5006.12}, {"text": "uh through the chair to Mayor CR um the site reservation policies would be for", "start": 5006.12, "end": 5011.48}, {"text": "one acre sites um and through our uh review that seems to be ample for the", 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5058.56, "end": 5065.76}, {"text": "for the third and final time okay we now move on to the", "start": 5065.76, "end": 5071.28}, {"text": "motion it's moved by councelor Jazz and second by councelor Malu that the report DS", "start": 5071.28, "end": 5077.4}, {"text": "8524 regarding the we make Milton official plan review be received for information for the purpose of a of a", "start": 5077.4, "end": 5083.44}, {"text": "statutory public meeting any questions the motion if not all those in favor", "start": 5083.44, "end": 5088.8}, {"text": "motions carried thank you everyone now move on to our second", "start": 5088.8, "end": 5095.56}, {"text": "public meeting this is regarding the OM official plan Amendment and the clerk", "start": 5095.56, "end": 5101.48}, {"text": "will read out the script uh this is the second uh public meeting regarding the OM official plan", "start": 5101.48, "end": 5107.28}, {"text": "Amendment Council will consider related bylaws at a future meeting if you wish to be notified of decision for this", "start": 5107.28, "end": 5112.8}, {"text": "application please sign the attendance sheet at the back of the room um email town clerk milton. CA or you can make a", "start": 5112.8, "end": 5119.119}, {"text": "request to the town clerk at 150 Mary Street uh following a presentation from staff there'll be an opportunity for", "start": 5119.119, "end": 5125.32}, {"text": "public comments from inperson and remote meeting participants just as a reminder for anyone looking to connect remotely", "start": 5125.32, "end": 5131.48}, {"text": "the number is 1 1866 511 0021 thank you and commissioner would", "start": 5131.48, "end": 5137.88}, {"text": "you like to introduce Megan sure thank you Mr chair I'd like to introduce Megan level senior planner", "start": 5137.88, "end": 5144}, {"text": "who has been leading the Oma exercise thank [Music]", "start": 5144, "end": 5151.06}, {"text": "you hey um good evening Mr chair members of council my name is Megan level I'm miss your policy planner for the town", "start": 5151.44, "end": 5158.56}, {"text": "and I'm here to present uh local official plan Amendment 1124 um for a statutory public meeting", "start": 5158.56, "end": 5164.96}, {"text": "the OM policy update so I know there's been recent conversation about Oma Council um but on", "start": 5164.96, "end": 5172.56}, {"text": "the screen now is the location map for omah so the north side of Old btan Road", "start": 5172.56, "end": 5178.119}, {"text": "that location is taken from the current Bo secondary plan and the south side of", "start": 5178.119, "end": 5184.639}, {"text": "brania road is taken from the britania secondary plan so the general location", "start": 5184.639, "end": 5190.199}, {"text": "is Old britania Road and fourth line some quick historical context om", "start": 5190.199, "end": 5198.04}, {"text": "was founded in 1818 at the intersection of fourth line in brtan Road in the past it was a gathering point for residents", "start": 5198.04, "end": 5204.199}, {"text": "um from nearby Farms um where they completed erand socialized and attended", "start": 5204.199, "end": 5209.56}, {"text": "church it's the last remaining Village of the um former Trafalger Township ship that retains elements of its Village", "start": 5209.56, "end": 5216}, {"text": "character there's a full outline in a previous staff report of almost cultural heritage value that was presented to", "start": 5216, "end": 5221.88}, {"text": "council back in 2019 um PD", "start": 5221.88, "end": 5226.719}, {"text": "0519 um I won't get into the full recommendations of PD", "start": 5227.44, "end": 5234.08}, {"text": "5019 but um at the time based on previous policies that we had in", "start": 5234.28, "end": 5239.679}, {"text": "place there was um uh a to look at the Heritage conser", "start": 5239.679, "end": 5246}, {"text": "possibility of a Heritage Conservation District in this staff report there was direction to instead move forward the", "start": 5246, "end": 5251.48}, {"text": "character area designation since that time there's been a change in Heritage like leg U Heritage", "start": 5251.48, "end": 5258.679}, {"text": "planning legislation which now we're looking at a different direction for policies for the OM", "start": 5258.679, "end": 5266.239}, {"text": "area so for current policy context as you can see on this map the Oma area is", "start": 5266.679, "end": 5271.76}, {"text": "split between two secondary plant so the bo secondary plan and the britania secondary plan and a part of the reason", "start": 5271.76, "end": 5277.239}, {"text": "we're doing the amendment that I'm presenting tonight is so that we're removing the omma specific pieces from", "start": 5277.239, "end": 5282.36}, {"text": "two secondary plans so we have one uh policy that applies to the entirety of", "start": 5282.36, "end": 5287.52}, {"text": "oma within the parent", "start": 5287.52, "end": 5290.88}, {"text": "op So within the bo secondary plan um that applies to again the area north of", "start": 5293.199, "end": 5299.36}, {"text": "Old brania Road um the boy secondary plan is originally endorsed by Council in 2013 it's currently in effect and", "start": 5299.36, "end": 5306.28}, {"text": "being built out it would provide the underlying land uses which um the residential area for the area to the", "start": 5306.28, "end": 5314.159}, {"text": "north um it currently has policies within the secondary plan that require the potential um the investigation of a", "start": 5314.159, "end": 5320.92}, {"text": "potential Heritage Conservation District to be carried out prior to development being permitted in the Oma", "start": 5320.92, "end": 5327.92}, {"text": "area um again the so side is the prania secondary plan so the prania secondary", "start": 5329.32, "end": 5334.44}, {"text": "plan is not in effect yet um it's going to be coming back to Council in January of 2025 for approval that um secondary", "start": 5334.44, "end": 5343.4}, {"text": "plan will Define the boundary for the South it'll provide underlying land uses which is currently evolving", "start": 5343.4, "end": 5350.119}, {"text": "neighborhood and um brania was presented to Council in November of 2024 for a", "start": 5350.119, "end": 5356.76}, {"text": "public meeting since that time as we're working through this um policy we're looking at updating some of the policies", "start": 5356.76, "end": 5362.679}, {"text": "to remove the tertiary plan requirement that was previously presented within that plan for the Oma", "start": 5362.679, "end": 5368.96}, {"text": "area so now for the purpose of the amendment um we're looking to refine the boundary of omal within the bo secondary", "start": 5371.36, "end": 5377.88}, {"text": "plan to be more specific based on works that have been undertaken since Bo originally moved forward we're looking to remove the OM", "start": 5377.88, "end": 5385.52}, {"text": "specific policies from the bo secondary plan and we're looking to set out policies in the parent op that apply for", "start": 5385.52, "end": 5391.76}, {"text": "the entirety of oma with two parts um comprehensive level studies that would apply to the entirety of oma and", "start": 5391.76, "end": 5398.679}, {"text": "lay out what may be required for site specific", "start": 5398.679, "end": 5403.08}, {"text": "applications so the comprehensive um or so the development constraints that we'd want to be looking at comprehensively", "start": 5403.84, "end": 5410.159}, {"text": "for the entirety of omah would be environmental concerns such as storm water management flood plane constraints", "start": 5410.159, "end": 5416.239}, {"text": "um as well as um looking at the features that contribute to the area's special", "start": 5416.239, "end": 5421.56}, {"text": "character we need to look at the water and wastewater servicing requirements and the road and infrastructure requirements that need to be", "start": 5421.56, "end": 5428.84}, {"text": "completed the the boundary changes that we're proposing within the bo secondary plan can be seen on screen currently", "start": 5430.84, "end": 5437.6}, {"text": "it's the sort of half circle that is shown within the plan and we're looking at um refining that boundary to what is", "start": 5437.6, "end": 5444.36}, {"text": "shown on the right um to basically outlin specific", "start": 5444.36, "end": 5450.96}, {"text": "properties and that is my overview so if there's any questions thank you presentation count questions councelor", "start": 5452.6, "end": 5458.239}, {"text": "shner uh thanks Mr chairman so it really is an administrative requirement uh", "start": 5458.239, "end": 5465.8}, {"text": "because you're changing uh designations under the secondary plan for the the", "start": 5465.8, "end": 5471}, {"text": "area I get that uh are there any impacts on uh any of the land owners at this", "start": 5471, "end": 5478}, {"text": "point on either side of that line as a result of what you're proposing administratively", "start": 5478, "end": 5484.239}, {"text": "um through Mr chair to councelor chaler um what we're doing with the policy is", "start": 5484.239, "end": 5489.76}, {"text": "again removing the specific policies through current Bo and modifying Britannia to again not get specific on", "start": 5489.76, "end": 5495.44}, {"text": "the requirements and instead this amendment will'll put in our official like the parent of um what's required to", "start": 5495.44, "end": 5502}, {"text": "move forward um which again would be we're just identifying the studies that", "start": 5502, "end": 5507.08}, {"text": "we already know need to be completed but outlining specifically what those are um", "start": 5507.08, "end": 5512.679}, {"text": "as we move forward so we're more clearly defining um what needs to be completed for the entirety of the area Okay so Mr", "start": 5512.679, "end": 5519.76}, {"text": "chairman no landowner is going to have to go through any process again as a result of this it it it's simply a", "start": 5519.76, "end": 5526.8}, {"text": "change in in where they're located within the secondary plans of those of that area either brania or Bo right so", "start": 5526.8, "end": 5534.719}, {"text": "they would still need to Pro proceed with any development applications that they would need to proceed with um", "start": 5534.719, "end": 5540.159}, {"text": "anyway what we're doing through this is defining what needs to be more clearly what needs to be completed before they", "start": 5540.159, "end": 5545.239}, {"text": "could move forward with those applications um we still like these are still things that we would require right", "start": 5545.239, "end": 5551.56}, {"text": "now we're just better defining what those are okay uh my last question Mr chairman", "start": 5551.56, "end": 5558.8}, {"text": "is uh just is there any additional cost you know beyond the administrative cost to the town of mton it's not requiring", "start": 5558.8, "end": 5565.96}, {"text": "us to do an awful lot more work really uh through the charity counselor", "start": 5565.96, "end": 5572.44}, {"text": "chaler um we will need to determine whether or not", "start": 5572.44, "end": 5578}, {"text": "the town will be leading some of the studies or if these will be applicant specific lead um that hasn't been", "start": 5578, "end": 5584.639}, {"text": "determined but there could be uh a financial implication to the town um to", "start": 5584.639, "end": 5590.159}, {"text": "undertake the environmental study moving forward and and just to clarify on on your previous question I think what I", "start": 5590.159, "end": 5596.96}, {"text": "think what you were alluding to was land owners in the brtan plan and land owners in the in the bo secondary plan and", "start": 5596.96, "end": 5604.48}, {"text": "basically what this amendment does is it completely cleans up the OM situation", "start": 5604.48, "end": 5610.28}, {"text": "because there were policies in BO there were going to be policies in britania", "start": 5610.28, "end": 5617.04}, {"text": "and it's it was very confusing so we felt by bringing this out and putting it in the parent op it can be treated as a", "start": 5617.04, "end": 5624.44}, {"text": "distinct area and have its own requirements outside of those secondary plans and uh the land owners are aware", "start": 5624.44, "end": 5631.52}, {"text": "of this and there really is no no concern okay thanks my last question Mr chairman", "start": 5631.52, "end": 5637.56}, {"text": "is uh none of these lines go through anybody's bedroom do", "start": 5637.56, "end": 5642.8}, {"text": "they I'm not going there anyone else any questions of the presentation if not", "start": 5643.32, "end": 5649.44}, {"text": "thank you Megan and understand Mr Mike lozar is in the audience that wishes to", "start": 5649.44, "end": 5656.159}, {"text": "speak thank you thank you Mr chair um um I'm Mike Lazar most of you I think are familiar", "start": 5660.92, "end": 5667.44}, {"text": "with me from the last meeting um there's seven Residential Properties currently on the south side of old Britannia which", "start": 5667.44, "end": 5673.88}, {"text": "will fall under the second uh Britannia secondary plan I currently owner control", "start": 5673.88, "end": 5679.04}, {"text": "four of the seven if you take out the two houses that have been vacant for at least three years one of them is falling", "start": 5679.04, "end": 5684.679}, {"text": "down I own four of the five um I'd like to thank staff for their efforts to date", "start": 5684.679, "end": 5690.8}, {"text": "on on dealing with the developments throughout Milton however the OPA to include Omar's uh uh new section", "start": 5690.8, "end": 5697.96}, {"text": "effective letter 315 to help aid in the development of the area seems to be more of a house cleaning exercise and I'm not", "start": 5697.96, "end": 5705.239}, {"text": "I'm not sure it's it's a catch up and and I'm hearing that it may further stall development because there we", "start": 5705.239, "end": 5712.04}, {"text": "haven't really assessed what those studies may be that we need uh in section 3152 IT addresses studies", "start": 5712.04, "end": 5718.48}, {"text": "required to support development of the area and refers more to studies that need to be carried out for the area all", "start": 5718.48, "end": 5723.88}, {"text": "the items addressed in 3152 in my opinion should have already been completed for the area we've approved a", "start": 5723.88, "end": 5730.56}, {"text": "th000 units plus or minus at the Northeast uh corner of Omar we've created a six Lane Highway and right", "start": 5730.56, "end": 5737.719}, {"text": "smack in the middle of that is the intersection we're referring to so I I don't know how we missed it so if we did", "start": 5737.719, "end": 5743.84}, {"text": "miss it I you know shame on us um I'd like a little bit more", "start": 5743.84, "end": 5749.56}, {"text": "clarification on what the scope of those those reports are and and whether or not they're specific to the sites or if it's", "start": 5749.56, "end": 5756.8}, {"text": "going to be for the whole area um sentence 315 2A of the OPA specifically", "start": 5756.8, "end": 5762.32}, {"text": "a requirement with respect to the area's special character I'm still struggling", "start": 5762.32, "end": 5768}, {"text": "with all the emphasis that contributes that that continues to be placed on this within both the OPA and the proposed", "start": 5768, "end": 5774.08}, {"text": "Britannia secondary plan and I believe I have a better understanding now that staff why staff is continuing to go down", "start": 5774.08, "end": 5781.36}, {"text": "that road um I've been informed town that they've identified I Believe Miss level referred to the uh PD", "start": 5781.36, "end": 5789.639}, {"text": "5019 as the document relied upon to establish the definition of special character significant cultural heritage", "start": 5789.639, "end": 5796.679}, {"text": "Natural Health System Etc I recall back in 2019 specifically addressing this report at Council I stood up and stated", "start": 5796.679, "end": 5804.04}, {"text": "that the report was technically incorrect it referred to ma ma as a village and references to the Village I", "start": 5804.04, "end": 5811.159}, {"text": "thought were removed but now I saw her it wasn't quite removed um so at that", "start": 5811.159, "end": 5819.6}, {"text": "meeting I basically suggested that anywhere that it said Village it be removed and the the report be adopted", "start": 5819.6, "end": 5825.96}, {"text": "with the the negating of that that uh term so R lying on the port of 2019", "start": 5825.96, "end": 5832.8}, {"text": "specifically part six of the report identifies the following cultural heritage value on page 41 of the report", "start": 5832.8, "end": 5839.159}, {"text": "and I quote the families of the nearby Farms shopped went to school attended church services visited the PA Ballpark", "start": 5839.159, "end": 5847}, {"text": "and socialized in om character defining elements and I quote within that report 's historic", "start": 5847, "end": 5854.56}, {"text": "significance lies in the fact that is the only remaining Village it was never", "start": 5854.56, "end": 5860.56}, {"text": "a village so we we continue to refer to this we continue to use it as a a a", "start": 5860.56, "end": 5867.56}, {"text": "policy but you know I'm just not sure how we're using that it's it's", "start": 5867.56, "end": 5872.92}, {"text": "effectively assembly of some buildings the cultural heritage of the area was", "start": 5872.92, "end": 5878.679}, {"text": "the fact that it was a hub it was where everybody came to and now we're relying on a report that says we have low", "start": 5878.679, "end": 5885.56}, {"text": "density twostory homes and that's what Oma is but it's not that's just some of", "start": 5885.56, "end": 5891.48}, {"text": "the houses and a lot of those houses were built in the 50s 607s and 80s so", "start": 5891.48, "end": 5897.28}, {"text": "I'm I'm struggling with the town to to get to a point where we need to get to to move this forward and my concern is", "start": 5897.28, "end": 5903.76}, {"text": "that we're relying on documents that aren't necessarily factually correct um having said that there's more", "start": 5903.76, "end": 5912}, {"text": "here but we don't really need to to to get into it um I I applaud the efforts", "start": 5912, "end": 5917.28}, {"text": "that they're making but moving forward with this Opa process and the secondary plan I would like to have that", "start": 5917.28, "end": 5923.56}, {"text": "specifically addressed thank you thank you presentation we stay there we got two", "start": 5923.56, "end": 5929.08}, {"text": "questions for you councelor Keli thanks Mr shair thank you sir for your delegation um if I could just get", "start": 5929.08, "end": 5934.52}, {"text": "commissioner Hogan to respond to the points raised by the resident and uh second part to that as well um in the", "start": 5934.52, "end": 5941.56}, {"text": "presentation that was done just a moment ago they mentioned that studies will continue to be undertaken in that area", "start": 5941.56, "end": 5946.639}, {"text": "will that incorporate the concerns and issues raised by the resident here and how will that", "start": 5946.639, "end": 5951.88}, {"text": "address as we continue those studies or do them through the J of councelor Ki um", "start": 5951.88, "end": 5960.679}, {"text": "the delegate has raised a report that was forwarded to council back in 2019", "start": 5960.679, "end": 5966.28}, {"text": "and Miss level did indicate that you know times have changed since 2019 the", "start": 5966.28, "end": 5972.04}, {"text": "Heritage landscape has changed in terms of legislation um at that time we were", "start": 5972.04, "end": 5977.88}, {"text": "looking at uh a special character area that's really not the case anymore there", "start": 5977.88, "end": 5984.159}, {"text": "are special qualities and I think we can find a way to recognize them but in", "start": 5984.159, "end": 5989.199}, {"text": "terms of designating it a full special character area I don't think that is in the cards in terms of the studies um we", "start": 5989.199, "end": 5996.92}, {"text": "have to remember that a lot of work has been done in that area in the last few years namely the uh realignment of of", "start": 5996.92, "end": 6003.639}, {"text": "britania Road and uh there was a a lot of technical work connected to that and", "start": 6003.639, "end": 6010.199}, {"text": "we needed to get through that before we could really tackle the Oma situation um", "start": 6010.199, "end": 6016.76}, {"text": "the main study that will be required relates to the environment relates to", "start": 6016.76, "end": 6021.88}, {"text": "flood plane um um and relates to storm water management and these are the key", "start": 6021.88, "end": 6027.36}, {"text": "um deciding factors in terms of developable area now I understand Mr lar", "start": 6027.36, "end": 6032.599}, {"text": "lar has been um consolidating several properties and there will be some", "start": 6032.599, "end": 6037.8}, {"text": "development opportunities in the future but we need to determine what is the developable area what is in the flood", "start": 6037.8, "end": 6043.84}, {"text": "plane where are there storm water issues and where are there um environmental features that uh we need to take a look", "start": 6043.84, "end": 6050.96}, {"text": "at and and uh potentially protect so there is study that needs to be done", "start": 6050.96, "end": 6056.719}, {"text": "um this has been sort of a bit of an island um it's outside of our major", "start": 6056.719, "end": 6061.88}, {"text": "growth areas but now we're trying to come up with a with with a game plan to", "start": 6061.88, "end": 6067.96}, {"text": "facilitate future development in om in a way that makes sense thanks", "start": 6067.96, "end": 6075.08}, {"text": "commissioner I hope that addresses what you've addressed here and advocated for I mean there's an importance of", "start": 6075.08, "end": 6080.719}, {"text": "obviously protecting the cultural heritage and history there but at the same time staff need to do that so to", "start": 6080.719, "end": 6087.4}, {"text": "the to the cultural heritage within that staff report it basically States the cultural heritage was the fact that it", "start": 6087.4, "end": 6094}, {"text": "was a hub it was the high density of the area it was where everybody went to", "start": 6094, "end": 6099.32}, {"text": "gather socialize get their groceries etc etc and and and now what we're trying to", "start": 6099.32, "end": 6104.84}, {"text": "produce through the the the OPA and the secondary plan is to absolutely restrict", "start": 6104.84, "end": 6113.679}, {"text": "the density of the area to the lowest density in the area which is not in in line with what the area's cultural value", "start": 6113.679, "end": 6120.599}, {"text": "was but next door to it we're going to put 18 story buildings and the at", "start": 6120.599, "end": 6125.679}, {"text": "Thompson in Britannia we're going to put 12 story buildings and we're going to have this little pocket with a baseball", "start": 6125.679, "end": 6131.96}, {"text": "diamond that was never the historical value as also indicated in the report", "start": 6131.96, "end": 6138}, {"text": "that the town has and I I can't support if that's going to be the Direction with", "start": 6138, "end": 6143.719}, {"text": "with response to the storm water management reports I understand the need for them uh within OM they built the", "start": 6143.719, "end": 6150.36}, {"text": "storm water management pond so there is documentation and there is a report somewhere that takes into consideration", "start": 6150.36, "end": 6157.199}, {"text": "all those areas it's part of their Watershed requirements if it hasn't been accounted for then it was an oversight", "start": 6157.199, "end": 6164.4}, {"text": "and now I'm paying mortgages I'm doing the things that I shouldn't have to deal", "start": 6164.4, "end": 6170.36}, {"text": "with and it should have already been done there's a storm water management pond in my", "start": 6170.36, "end": 6177.4}, {"text": "backyard anything further councelor is sta any can add any clarification to", "start": 6177.719, "end": 6183.32}, {"text": "these concerns that have been raised we're certainly not relying on", "start": 6183.32, "end": 6189.4}, {"text": "the 2019 report as I as I already indicated um we've moved on since then in terms of storm water management maybe", "start": 6189.4, "end": 6196.159}, {"text": "there is an existing Pond but that's not reflecting any future development in the area and that's the key understanding", "start": 6196.159, "end": 6203.239}, {"text": "what the densities are going to be moving forward and how that is all going to work so an existing Pond you know", "start": 6203.239, "end": 6209.639}, {"text": "that's great that it's there but um there's going to have to be a lot more technical study to take a look at what's", "start": 6209.639, "end": 6215.08}, {"text": "being proposed and how it will all fit together thank you counc cheler clarification uh for the", "start": 6215.08, "end": 6223.199}, {"text": "proponent U Bo U certainly was a village", "start": 6223.199, "end": 6229.199}, {"text": "uh it was settled before Milton was settled um it had a post office and you", "start": 6229.199, "end": 6235.44}, {"text": "you you know back in 150 200 years ago you didn't have a post office unless you had a village it had to be designated as", "start": 6235.44, "end": 6242.199}, {"text": "such and and Bo had a village for that reason or had a post office for that reason it had blacksmith shop it had uh", "start": 6242.199, "end": 6249.199}, {"text": "a general store all those things were gone by the early 20th century to your", "start": 6249.199, "end": 6254.36}, {"text": "point uh I couldn't tell you today if there's anything left from uh the", "start": 6254.36, "end": 6259.719}, {"text": "beginning of the 20th century it's it's possible Milton Historical Society could do the work and find out but I I", "start": 6259.719, "end": 6265.84}, {"text": "seriously doubt that there's there's very much left uh but you know it was a", "start": 6265.84, "end": 6271.719}, {"text": "village and at one point it was an important Village serving the agricultural Community uh in troger", "start": 6271.719, "end": 6278.04}, {"text": "Township uh but you know that changed too but uh just as just a point of", "start": 6278.04, "end": 6283.84}, {"text": "clarification uh I don't disagree with what you're saying about you know characterization areas", "start": 6283.84, "end": 6291.198}, {"text": "we're not referring to Bo we're referring to Olma yes yes Bo may have been a village", "start": 6304.76, "end": 6312.119}, {"text": "but all all the documentation that I've seen does not refer to as a village anywhere no I and I yeah sorry I my", "start": 6312.119, "end": 6319.4}, {"text": "apologies but I was thinking about the blind but almost was Al a village that had a post office uh there's a book that", "start": 6319.4, "end": 6326.44}, {"text": "Jim Dills and I wrote that talks about om it's called Milton streets U and again they had all this infrastructure", "start": 6326.44, "end": 6332.92}, {"text": "in place until the beginning of the 20th century and uh and it gradually disappeared you know basically Milton", "start": 6332.92, "end": 6339.119}, {"text": "became the Hub okay thank you both for that history lesson any other questions of the", "start": 6339.119, "end": 6346.599}, {"text": "delegation if not thank you sir for your presentation thank you and your comments will be noted is there anyone else in", "start": 6346.599, "end": 6352.719}, {"text": "the audience or online that wishes to speak to this item is no one online anyone for the", "start": 6352.719, "end": 6359.239}, {"text": "second and third time in the audience if not thank you everyone for your patience", "start": 6359.239, "end": 6365.76}, {"text": "and we have a motion by councelor Jazz and second by councelor malol that report DS 8424 be received for information any", "start": 6365.76, "end": 6373.08}, {"text": "questions to motion if not all those in favor motions", "start": 6373.08, "end": 6378.96}, {"text": "carried on to our third public meeting by the way everyone this is our record for public meetings I believe in this", "start": 6381.159, "end": 6387.32}, {"text": "term of council so it's all the commissioner of development services fault so if this does go along", "start": 6387.32, "end": 6394.719}, {"text": "appreciate everybody's patience thank you so the next public meeting is with regard to zoning B", "start": 6394.719, "end": 6400.239}, {"text": "amendment by HW Transportation group applicable applicable to lands known as 7265 number 5 Side Road Council will", "start": 6400.239, "end": 6408.119}, {"text": "consider related bylaws at a future meeting if you wish to be notified of decision please sign the attendance she at the back of the room or you can make", "start": 6408.119, "end": 6415}, {"text": "a written request to town clerk 150 Mary Street Milton or email town clerk milton. CA following a presentation from", "start": 6415, "end": 6421.96}, {"text": "the applicant there will be an opportunity for public comments from inperson and remote meeting participants", "start": 6421.96, "end": 6427.239}, {"text": "as a reminder for anyone wanting to connect remotely the number is 1866 511", "start": 6427.239, "end": 6434.44}, {"text": "0021 uh thank you sir if I to introduce yourself yes good evening Mr chair", "start": 6434.96, "end": 6440.56}, {"text": "members of uh Council uh my name is Bill outd were the applicants for the uh", "start": 6440.56, "end": 6447}, {"text": "proposal um we outr and Associates syc go ahead okay thank you I'll just go", "start": 6447, "end": 6454.08}, {"text": "through a quick uh presentation for this particular item um on the screen uh is a", "start": 6454.08, "end": 6460.28}, {"text": "picture that shows Pride Logistics U I'm sure the council members are aware that", "start": 6460.28, "end": 6465.88}, {"text": "uh Pride built this beautiful building uh got it all prep basically uh uh", "start": 6465.88, "end": 6471.8}, {"text": "completed through to actually occupying and then I think it was February this year uh Pride went bankrupt so our", "start": 6471.8, "end": 6478.84}, {"text": "client to HW Transportation purchased the building purchased the land and basically are looking to uh you know", "start": 6478.84, "end": 6486.76}, {"text": "pursue an application at Council here to basically get some additional uses for the the site the site itself was", "start": 6486.76, "end": 6497.08}, {"text": "um the site itself was uh obviously built for a uh a trucking operation", "start": 6497.28, "end": 6503.4}, {"text": "specifically rental and leasing um Pride basically uh got the approvals I think", "start": 6503.4, "end": 6510.159}, {"text": "over a two-year period to facilitate a large rental leasing uh service operation the existing zoning uh on the", "start": 6510.159, "end": 6517.239}, {"text": "site is M1 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"uh leftand corner where the site is uh right at the edge of the the business park uh within the business park itself", "start": 6567, "end": 6574.679}, {"text": "uh it's M2 zoning just on the peripheral areas of the business park it's specifically business uh uh Park", "start": 6574.679, "end": 6581.119}, {"text": "designation um the site specific section uh that we're looking for within the op is", "start": 6581.119, "end": 6587.639}, {"text": "adding the auto sales establishment uh that's provided as per staff it basically includes obviously Trucking", "start": 6587.639, "end": 6595.36}, {"text": "sales uh the resoning application once again uh the existing zoning is M1 we're looking for proposed zoning M1 special", "start": 6596.119, "end": 6602.96}, {"text": "section this will permit the specific uh motor vehicle excuse me motor vehicle dealership over what's currently", "start": 6602.96, "end": 6610.679}, {"text": "existing this is a uh a plan of the existing site uh it was all site plan", "start": 6610.679, "end": 6616}, {"text": "approved uh completed as I said to the point of all the Landscaping being done", "start": 6616, "end": 6621.08}, {"text": "uh beautiful well laid out site um the existing Site Area is 1.77", "start": 6621.08, "end": 6626.239}, {"text": "hectares building area is about 6.9% of the site so it's not a large building a", "start": 6626.239, "end": 6631.4}, {"text": "lot of landscaping there is a natural heritage open space area uh just to the", "start": 6631.4, "end": 6637.119}, {"text": "I would say the Northeast side uh Landscaping sort of surrounds the entire site it's a beautiful well-designed site", "start": 6637.119, "end": 6643.56}, {"text": "once again uh with a pretty good buffer zone there is park car parking for 57", "start": 6643.56, "end": 6649.04}, {"text": "spaces uh truck cap parking for 27 and 25 for full", "start": 6649.04, "end": 6655.519}, {"text": "cab uh all the buildings once again on the site have been constructed there's no changes proposed at all to the the", "start": 6655.599, "end": 6661.96}, {"text": "actual site uh once again the application is just to add the the sales component uh as part of our official", "start": 6661.96, "end": 6668.719}, {"text": "plan and resoning application we provided all the required reports uh planning justification report the noise", "start": 6668.719, "end": 6674.119}, {"text": "impact traffic impact functional servicing brief and so forth but once again there is no physical changes to", "start": 6674.119, "end": 6680.199}, {"text": "the site itself uh do note that all the commenting agencies have provided uh uh comments", "start": 6680.199, "end": 6687.199}, {"text": "doesn't seem to be any issues pertaining to development Finance or Halton zoning or development engineering uh once again", "start": 6687.199, "end": 6693.32}, {"text": "I believe just because as he said we're not proposing anything other than just the specific", "start": 6693.32, "end": 6699.36}, {"text": "use might be happy to answer any questions thank you for your presentation any questions the", "start": 6699.48, "end": 6705.44}, {"text": "delegation thank you sir for your presentation thank is there any other delegations that wishing to speak either", "start": 6705.44, "end": 6711.88}, {"text": "online or person if none I guess we have a", "start": 6711.88, "end": 6718.119}, {"text": "motion it's been moved by councelor Jazz and second by councelor mu that development service report DS 07924 be", "start": 6718.719, "end": 6726.28}, {"text": "received for information any questions the motion if not all those in favor", "start": 6726.28, "end": 6731.36}, {"text": "motions carried on to public meeting number four", "start": 6731.36, "end": 6737.679}, {"text": "CL", "start": 6737.679, "end": 6740.679}, {"text": "okay this public meeting is with regard to General housekeeping amendments the comprehensive zoning bylaw Council will", "start": 6744.32, "end": 6749.96}, {"text": "consider related bylaws at a future meeting again if you wish to be notified at decision on this application please", "start": 6749.96, "end": 6755.56}, {"text": "sign the attendance sheet at the back of the room email town clerk at milton. CA or you can contact the town clerk at 150", "start": 6755.56, "end": 6761.52}, {"text": "Mary Street Milton following a presentation from staff there'll be an opportunity for inperson and remote meeting participants as a reminder if", "start": 6761.52, "end": 6768.679}, {"text": "you wish to connect remotely the number is 1866 5110 21 okay thank you and Jill Hogan", "start": 6768.679, "end": 6776.48}, {"text": "introduce our speaker thank you Mr chair I'd like to introduce Natalie stoper she is the", "start": 6776.48, "end": 6782.079}, {"text": "planner who has been leading this housekeeping Amendment which is really", "start": 6782.079, "end": 6787.48}, {"text": "an administrative Amendment but I'll let Natalie explain it to you thank", "start": 6787.48, "end": 6792.719}, {"text": "you so good evening Mr chair members of council my name is Natalie stoer and I", "start": 6792.719, "end": 6798.719}, {"text": "am um working on the zoning bylaw Amendment for our Urban zoning bylaw um so as was mentioned this is a", "start": 6798.719, "end": 6804.96}, {"text": "statutory public meeting for those housekeeping amendments to our Urban zoning bylaw town planning staff often", "start": 6804.96, "end": 6811.28}, {"text": "review our zoning bylaws to make sure they're accurate and up toate um and where amendments are required um we", "start": 6811.28, "end": 6818.679}, {"text": "present those amendments to council for consideration to help to improve and clarify and update our existing zoning", "start": 6818.679, "end": 6825.36}, {"text": "bylaw regulations that apply townwide so the purpose of this housekeeping", "start": 6825.36, "end": 6830.48}, {"text": "amendment is just to amend very parts of the town's Urban zoning bylaw so no", "start": 6830.48, "end": 6835.92}, {"text": "changes to the rural zoning bylaw or site specific um sites are proposed", "start": 6835.92, "end": 6841.36}, {"text": "through this process um and the proposed housekeeping amendments um and the rationale for each", "start": 6841.36, "end": 6848.56}, {"text": "of those are found within my staff report in appendix one so you'll see a list of all of the Amendments and the rationale for those so some of the", "start": 6848.56, "end": 6855.92}, {"text": "Amendments that are included within the draft zoning bylaw um include", "start": 6855.92, "end": 6861.4}, {"text": "modifications to the definitions um for various motor vehicle", "start": 6861.4, "end": 6866.719}, {"text": "establishments um changes to the minimum parking rates related to the major transit station area to apartment", "start": 6866.719, "end": 6873.719}, {"text": "buildings as well as to short-term rentals um changes to the provisions for", "start": 6873.719, "end": 6881.199}, {"text": "drive-through facilities within the mtsa area as well as um changes to the", "start": 6881.199, "end": 6886.599}, {"text": "provisions uh within the future development Zone we're also looking at adding a few regulations one would have", "start": 6886.599, "end": 6894.239}, {"text": "an amenity space requirement for apartment buildings within the RO Zone to keep it consistent with some of our", "start": 6894.239, "end": 6900}, {"text": "other zoning categories as well as uh Provisions that would allow for the encroachment of electric vehicle", "start": 6900, "end": 6906.48}, {"text": "charging um stations within existing um parking", "start": 6906.48, "end": 6912.119}, {"text": "stalls so notice of the statutory public meeting was provided in accordance with the planning Act and the town of Milton", "start": 6912.119, "end": 6918.199}, {"text": "official plan um we had a notice posted on the town's website um and I also circulated the proposed", "start": 6918.199, "end": 6925.8}, {"text": "amendments to all internal agencies and external agencies for comments and a", "start": 6925.8, "end": 6931.119}, {"text": "technical report will be brought to Council in the future once our review has been", "start": 6931.119, "end": 6936.76}, {"text": "completed thank you presentation any questions to Natalie if not thank you for your", "start": 6939.8, "end": 6946.92}, {"text": "presentation and is there any delegations in the audience or online", "start": 6946.92, "end": 6952.4}, {"text": "going once oh councelor Keli sorry just wanted to ask a quick question there thanks Mr", "start": 6952.4, "end": 6958.48}, {"text": "chair um in regards to the parking requirements and all of that uh", "start": 6958.48, "end": 6963.92}, {"text": "could you just please elaborate on the uh reduction that was noticed in the bylaw there and how that would impact", "start": 6963.92, "end": 6971.36}, {"text": "us so through you Mr chair um there's three as I mentioned three parking", "start": 6974.119, "end": 6979.88}, {"text": "changes uh proposed the first parking changes to the major transit station area so that's in relation to the", "start": 6979.88, "end": 6988.119}, {"text": "province's um planning act changes which no longer permit municipalities to require a minimum parking rate within", "start": 6988.119, "end": 6994.639}, {"text": "our major transit station area so this amendment would remove that requirement", "start": 6994.639, "end": 6999.719}, {"text": "and it would clarify that where parking is provided by the developer What proportion of those parking spaces has", "start": 6999.719, "end": 7005.679}, {"text": "to be available for accessible parking spaces visitor parking and EV parking to ensure that we're still getting those", "start": 7005.679, "end": 7011.8}, {"text": "components through that process the second change is for um the the", "start": 7011.8, "end": 7017.52}, {"text": "apartment building parking rate So currently our zoning bylaw has a fairly High parking rate and we've seen every", "start": 7017.52, "end": 7024}, {"text": "apartment building kind of come through a zoning bylaw Amendment application or minor variance application to reduce", "start": 7024, "end": 7029.92}, {"text": "that rate the current rate is 1.5 uh parking spaces per unit for the", "start": 7029.92, "end": 7035}, {"text": "residential portion and then 0.25 for the visitor parking and we are reducing", "start": 7035, "end": 7040.76}, {"text": "that to align with the various Transportation impact studies that we've had completed through this these various", "start": 7040.76, "end": 7046}, {"text": "zoning bylaw amendments to a minimum of one parking space per unit for the residential portion and 0.2 for the", "start": 7046, "end": 7053.04}, {"text": "visitor parking portion and then the last change is just to um clarify for", "start": 7053.04, "end": 7059.119}, {"text": "short-term rentals where parking spaces are required that if you have a short-term rental that occupies the", "start": 7059.119, "end": 7064.56}, {"text": "entirety of the unit you do not have to provide for an additional parking space um we're running into some instances", "start": 7064.56, "end": 7070.8}, {"text": "where residents had uh basement apartment and we're providing an a parking space for that basement", "start": 7070.8, "end": 7076.52}, {"text": "apartment um but the way the bylaws worded now they would have to provide an additional one for that basement", "start": 7076.52, "end": 7082.36}, {"text": "apartment even if they're renting that whole unit um in order to use it as an Airbnb okay thanks Mr just to clarify", "start": 7082.36, "end": 7089.44}, {"text": "that so the first item you mentioned regarding the major transitor that's from The Province correct H through you Mr chair that's", "start": 7089.44, "end": 7095.4}, {"text": "correct so that was a change made through the province to the planning act okay and in regards to the apartments um", "start": 7095.4, "end": 7101.36}, {"text": "so that rate is also o being reduced there and all that what's the consideration in regards to you know the parking issue that we have in our community most people have more than one", "start": 7101.36, "end": 7108.079}, {"text": "vehicle obviously is there still an opportunity let's say to you know have", "start": 7108.079, "end": 7113.239}, {"text": "an exception made to that if the time comes when a development comes forward just so cars have a place to park yeah", "start": 7113.239, "end": 7119.679}, {"text": "so to you Mr or through Mr chair um through our various like zoning vium I'm", "start": 7119.679, "end": 7126.079}, {"text": "applications you'll see almost every Tower that's going up in the town has gone through a very detailed Transportation impact parking study and", "start": 7126.079, "end": 7133.36}, {"text": "many of those Studies have been peer- reviewed by peer-reviewer chosen by the town who looked at those parking rates", "start": 7133.36, "end": 7139}, {"text": "and we have found um that those parking rates are generally across all those", "start": 7139, "end": 7144.4}, {"text": "developments we're seeing the one per unit plus the 0.2 two visitor is appropriate for the town all right", "start": 7144.4, "end": 7151.56}, {"text": "thanks for that and just finally I'll just conclude by saying what's the next step after this since this is the public meeting what comes", "start": 7151.56, "end": 7157.639}, {"text": "next so through you Mr chair again um The Next Step will be to review all of the comments that we receive on the", "start": 7157.639, "end": 7164.32}, {"text": "application including comments from our transportation department and other departments um and then prepare a report to council with the final", "start": 7164.32, "end": 7171.199}, {"text": "recommendation all right thanks Mr chair nothing further thank you any other questions Natalie not thank you Natalie", "start": 7171.199, "end": 7177.76}, {"text": "again is there anyone else in the audience that wishes to speak to this item if not we have a motion here moveed", "start": 7177.76, "end": 7184}, {"text": "by councelor Ja second by counselor oh sir if you like to come forward sorry I missed you there earlier if you could", "start": 7184, "end": 7190.159}, {"text": "introduce yourself as well hi there my name is gagan kasana and I've been living in Milton for the last", "start": 7190.159, "end": 7196.84}, {"text": "14 years but this is my first uh appearance here so for the parking uh", "start": 7196.84, "end": 7203.76}, {"text": "here I would like to uh point out to my residential area so in there most of the", "start": 7203.76, "end": 7210.199}, {"text": "houses they have basally two to three parking okay and this is uh detach and", "start": 7210.199, "end": 7215.52}, {"text": "semi- detach houses so they are basically areas in which there are 12h hour parking which we generally do on", "start": 7215.52, "end": 7222.48}, {"text": "the streets but uh then there are other chances that uh we basically kind of get", "start": 7222.48, "end": 7229}, {"text": "I think two weeks per year so is there basically a recommendation that uh", "start": 7229, "end": 7236.239}, {"text": "people can uh this time limit be increased to say around a month or so 30", "start": 7236.239, "end": 7242.36}, {"text": "days so that uh in case where guest are basically coming uh that people can", "start": 7242.36, "end": 7248.52}, {"text": "basically park on the streets uh so that uh this uh uh if we are basically kind", "start": 7248.52, "end": 7255.079}, {"text": "of reducing the number of parking spaces from say 1.25 to 1 so we can basically", "start": 7255.079, "end": 7261.28}, {"text": "and uh now people are also renting their uh basements so if a house has basically", "start": 7261.28, "end": 7267.52}, {"text": "two cars and they have rented out the basement the guy also basically has a third car so if they need to basically", "start": 7267.52, "end": 7273.52}, {"text": "kind of Park uh the public parking spaces then that needs to be increased", "start": 7273.52, "end": 7279.199}, {"text": "by the town because then uh if the council is deciding to basically kind of", "start": 7279.199, "end": 7284.76}, {"text": "reduce on the number of parking spaces then either say allow to basically kind", "start": 7284.76, "end": 7291.28}, {"text": "of Park in public spaces like the schools during night there's no schools the parking lots are empty but nobody", "start": 7291.28, "end": 7297.4}, {"text": "can park there so at least it should be that during night people can Vally Park", "start": 7297.4, "end": 7303.04}, {"text": "in these particular areas thank you for your presentation sir is there any questions to the", "start": 7303.04, "end": 7309.32}, {"text": "delegation uh councelor Ali and then councelor thank you Mr chair um thank you for your", "start": 7309.32, "end": 7316.56}, {"text": "delegation I do understand where you're coming from your your concern is about the reduction of parking spaces I want", "start": 7316.56, "end": 7324.159}, {"text": "some clarity on this from our um commissioner um on whether this um", "start": 7324.159, "end": 7330.88}, {"text": "housekeeping amendment is specific to mtsa or subdivisions and could you also briefly", "start": 7330.88, "end": 7337.92}, {"text": "touch you or Doug can touch upon the new parking ctions that we have", "start": 7337.92, "end": 7345}, {"text": "added through the chair to counselor Ali the parking reduction firstly that is", "start": 7345.44, "end": 7351.159}, {"text": "being proposed through this housekeeping Amendment isn't related to what you're speaking of that is in relation to um", "start": 7351.159, "end": 7358.04}, {"text": "higher density developments like Towers Apartment Towers your situation um from", "start": 7358.04, "end": 7364.8}, {"text": "what I from what I can understand is um looking at you're concerned about", "start": 7364.8, "end": 7370.92}, {"text": "parking on on a residential home or semi- detach a townhouse or a single", "start": 7370.92, "end": 7376.04}, {"text": "where there's a basement apartment for example and and let me just elaborate", "start": 7376.04, "end": 7381.96}, {"text": "and um what the requirement is today um basically is one parking spot per unit", "start": 7381.96, "end": 7388.639}, {"text": "so if you have you know the principal unit you need one parking spot for that so if you're living in your house and", "start": 7388.639, "end": 7394.52}, {"text": "renting out your basement you need one parking spot for the house and one for the basement the way that and that's the", "start": 7394.52, "end": 7400.84}, {"text": "minimums and we actually just reduced that um recently previously um more", "start": 7400.84, "end": 7406.52}, {"text": "parking was required and that eliminated many homes from having the ability to", "start": 7406.52, "end": 7412.04}, {"text": "have a basement apartment now in terms of your your your statements about um", "start": 7412.04, "end": 7417.679}, {"text": "parking in schools um those sorts of things the town recently just undertook a transitional parking study and we'd be", "start": 7417.679, "end": 7424.96}, {"text": "happy to share that with you where we're looking at temporary public areas for", "start": 7424.96, "end": 7430.36}, {"text": "parking so we can ly share that information with you um we're also going", "start": 7430.36, "end": 7436.48}, {"text": "to be undertaking uh a parking study as part of our 2025 work to look at this", "start": 7436.48, "end": 7441.8}, {"text": "holistically across the town but at this point in time um in terms of parking exemptions Etc I", "start": 7441.8, "end": 7450.48}, {"text": "don't believe and maybe um our clerk Megan can speak to this in terms of adding additional exemptions we've kind", "start": 7450.48, "end": 7456.88}, {"text": "of gone through that and we did add some additional dates but Megan if you could just elaborate on that sure U through", "start": 7456.88, "end": 7464.28}, {"text": "the chair so um up until I want to say about a year and a half ago it was 18 uh", "start": 7464.28, "end": 7469.44}, {"text": "parking exceptions per year per plate that's now 25 per plate per year uh but", "start": 7469.44, "end": 7475.639}, {"text": "as noted by the commissioner of development services in 2025 uh there will be the transitional", "start": 7475.639, "end": 7480.96}, {"text": "parking strategy in which we will be exploring uh permit parking within parks", "start": 7480.96, "end": 7486.079}, {"text": "within town-owned Parks uh so more information can be made available to you following the meeting", "start": 7486.079, "end": 7493.639}, {"text": "okay fine I'll appreciate that and going back to you so say for example if I have my house I have two cars okay one stands", "start": 7493.76, "end": 7501.599}, {"text": "in the garage one basically in my traffic if I rent uh and the guy has basically a car because he would be Comm", "start": 7501.599, "end": 7509.32}, {"text": "commuting to basically kind of pay the rent so where exactly does the city the", "start": 7509.32, "end": 7514.84}, {"text": "town basically plan where would he be basically parking the car sure possibly you could take that", "start": 7514.84, "end": 7521.76}, {"text": "help with staff afterwards because it's not part of this discussion we do have a question from councelor KY councelor", "start": 7521.76, "end": 7527.8}, {"text": "Ellie have you finished with your questions yeah councelor Keli to the delegation uh yes thanks Mr chair U", "start": 7527.8, "end": 7534.52}, {"text": "councelor Alie asked the question to commissioner Hogan in regards to that issue there", "start": 7534.52, "end": 7540.599}, {"text": "um just in regards to the again to that comment earlier about what's in the Amendments or the policy changes for", "start": 7540.599, "end": 7547.719}, {"text": "staff I guess I'll just make another comment saying that if I guess my premises is that the province isn't", "start": 7547.719, "end": 7553.28}, {"text": "requiring those other two items for the apartments and for that third item that was mentioned there to lower the parking", "start": 7553.28, "end": 7558.679}, {"text": "rate I would probably a on the side that we shouldn't reduce the parking rate we should keep it there because most people", "start": 7558.679, "end": 7565.36}, {"text": "have a significant need for a parking requirement but if the province is telling us to then obviously we have no", "start": 7565.36, "end": 7570.8}, {"text": "choice but from what I heard earlier I don't think the province is telling us to reduce the rate for the other two", "start": 7570.8, "end": 7576}, {"text": "items that was mentioned so I'll just make those comments there sir for you uh we increased parking permits from 18 to", "start": 7576, "end": 7581.639}, {"text": "25 in April 2023 we're doing a transportation Master Plan update which is on the agenda later which identifies", "start": 7581.639, "end": 7588.04}, {"text": "the need to study parking opportunities for a more longer term perspective at uh in the years to come the transitional", "start": 7588.04, "end": 7594.92}, {"text": "neighborhood parking strategy that the commissioner mentioned is going to allow residents to on a permit based system for $60 a month be able to park in", "start": 7594.92, "end": 7601.679}, {"text": "Municipal Parks um in designated spots so that's going to help a little bit there um and extended parking permits", "start": 7601.679, "end": 7608.719}, {"text": "are also available through the town if you meet a certain requir and you can also apply for 15 hour", "start": 7608.719, "end": 7614}, {"text": "street parking if your street is eligible for that so we can touch base afterwards to so can staff if you need", "start": 7614, "end": 7619.559}, {"text": "more information on that um thanks Mr chair thank you sir for your time if you could discuss this with staff I possibly", "start": 7619.559, "end": 7625.92}, {"text": "they can assist you in your own situation thank you very much we do have a motion by councelor Jaz and second by", "start": 7625.92, "end": 7632.199}, {"text": "councelor m with the development services report DS 08324 outlining the town initiated housekeeping amendments", "start": 7632.199, "end": 7638.719}, {"text": "to compreh zoning B 062 14 be as amended be received for information any", "start": 7638.719, "end": 7644.96}, {"text": "questions the motion if not all those in favor motions", "start": 7644.96, "end": 7650.48}, {"text": "carried on to the next one this is uh item 7.5", "start": 7650.76, "end": 7658.079}, {"text": "clerkes sure this public meeting is with regard to proposed plan of subdivision and Amendment to the zoning bylaw by brt", "start": 7658.079, "end": 7664.239}, {"text": "Haven fourth line Inc and 100096 8516 Ontario Inc to permit the", "start": 7664.239, "end": 7670.719}, {"text": "development of presidential plan of subdivision Council will consider related bylaws at a future meeting please sign the attendance sheet at the", "start": 7670.719, "end": 7677.079}, {"text": "back of the room if you wish to be notified of decision or email town clerk milton. CA or contact the town clerk at", "start": 7677.079, "end": 7683.159}, {"text": "150 Mary Street in Milton following a presentation from the applicant there will be an opportunity for public", "start": 7683.159, "end": 7688.599}, {"text": "comments from inperson and remote meeting participants for anyone wishing to connect remotely again that number is", "start": 7688.599, "end": 7694.88}, {"text": "1866 511 0021 uh thank you and the applicant sir", "start": 7694.88, "end": 7700.719}, {"text": "if you want to come forward introduce yourself make your presentation uh thank you chair um", "start": 7700.719, "end": 7707.679}, {"text": "excuse me members of council and members of the public uh my name is zachar bushard I'm a planner with Glenn schn Associates I'm presenting tonight on", "start": 7707.679, "end": 7714.639}, {"text": "behalf of brand Haven development for 9755 dery Road uh this proposal is to", "start": 7714.639, "end": 7719.96}, {"text": "facilitate a residential development on a currently vacant and underutilized parcel uh so the subject lands are", "start": 7719.96, "end": 7727.079}, {"text": "located north of Derry Road and just west of forth line and uh Cedar head Edge Road and they consist of", "start": 7727.079, "end": 7733.04}, {"text": "approximately 6.19 heares or 15.30 Acres uh these lands have primary Frontage on", "start": 7733.04, "end": 7738.159}, {"text": "Dairy Road which is an intensification Corridor that supports public transit active transportation and higher density", "start": 7738.159, "end": 7744.159}, {"text": "growth and the property also has Frontage on what is proposed by the town to be a future extension of Cedar hedge", "start": 7744.159, "end": 7750.76}, {"text": "Road where Cedar hedge would extend south from Harwood Drive to connect to Dairy Road and just to be clear this", "start": 7750.76, "end": 7757.48}, {"text": "Cedar hedge extension is a town initiative um and the town has asked us to include this conceptual extension as", "start": 7757.48, "end": 7763.719}, {"text": "part of our application uh the surrounding neighborhood here has developed as generally residential and", "start": 7763.719, "end": 7769.119}, {"text": "includes lowrise single detached and townhouse forms as well as mid-rise Apartments between four to8 stories in", "start": 7769.119, "end": 7775.239}, {"text": "height to the Northwest is the Milton ghost station which is approximately an 8-minute drive and there's also a", "start": 7775.239, "end": 7781.28}, {"text": "natural heritage channel on the property which bisects down the middle from the north to the", "start": 7781.28, "end": 7787.639}, {"text": "South this slide is an excerpt from the Bristol survey secondary plan land use schedule uh the secondary plan provides", "start": 7787.639, "end": 7794.239}, {"text": "more detailed land use policy for the local community area than the Melton official plan so on the west side so", "start": 7794.239, "end": 7801.599}, {"text": "subject lands are outlined in blue there on the West Side the residential area in yellow permits a mix of low medium and", "start": 7801.599, "end": 7807.639}, {"text": "high density residential uses the residential office area in red checker on the East permits higher density", "start": 7807.639, "end": 7813.96}, {"text": "developments at a density of 85 to 150 units per net hectare and Heights of up", "start": 7813.96, "end": 7819.28}, {"text": "to eight Stories the Greenland a area in the middle does not permit developments and we do understand this is one of the", "start": 7819.28, "end": 7825.92}, {"text": "last remaining Parcels in the Bristol survey secondary plan to be developed which would generally complete the", "start": 7825.92, "end": 7831.84}, {"text": "secondary plan this is an excerpt from the town of Milton zoning bylaw property zoned", "start": 7831.84, "end": 7838.199}, {"text": "natural heritage system and future development and only permits uses that exist today as such we do need to apply", "start": 7838.199, "end": 7844.52}, {"text": "for a zoning bylaw amendment to facilitate our proposed development uh which is on this next slide here so for", "start": 7844.52, "end": 7850.679}, {"text": "those of the previous community meeting this will be familiar it's the same concept plan that we presented we're", "start": 7850.679, "end": 7855.8}, {"text": "proposing a residential development consisting of townhouse forms as well as a mid-rise apartment which is located in", "start": 7855.8, "end": 7861.639}, {"text": "the Southeast in Orange there will also be a Village Square Park in the Northwest in light green and the natural", "start": 7861.639, "end": 7868.48}, {"text": "heritage channel is identified in the center in dark green uh as noted the east side of the plan is within that", "start": 7868.48, "end": 7874.44}, {"text": "residential office area designation so that's essentially everything east of the channel and represented by the East", "start": 7874.44, "end": 7879.76}, {"text": "condominium block which is a out line in a blue dash line there we are proposing both free hold and condominium tenure", "start": 7879.76, "end": 7886.52}, {"text": "units for a total of 365 units where 160 will be in the apartment uh we are also", "start": 7886.52, "end": 7893.48}, {"text": "proposing an extension of Beacham court and Rusk avenue roadways extending from the uh West down to Dairy Road and to", "start": 7893.48, "end": 7900.48}, {"text": "the east we are proposing access to the town's proposed Cedar hedge Road Extension um through this a total of 636", "start": 7900.48, "end": 7908.239}, {"text": "parking spaces are proposed which is a rate of two spaces for every townhouse unit one space for every apartment unit", "start": 7908.239, "end": 7914.159}, {"text": "and a visitor parking rate of2 spaces this is a streetscape rendering", "start": 7914.159, "end": 7921.119}, {"text": "which shows a 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block which does include the", "start": 7956.04, "end": 7962.599}, {"text": "eight-story apartment building and just for our final slide tonight um as context our project team", "start": 7962.599, "end": 7970.119}, {"text": "first held a community meeting meeting in October it was a virtual community meeting uh we had good discussion on a", "start": 7970.119, "end": 7975.4}, {"text": "number of topics for example uh in response to questions about construction impacts uh we're looking forward to", "start": 7975.4, "end": 7980.96}, {"text": "working further with the staff to develop a construction management plan and possibly A Pest Management plan to deal with impacts of construction there", "start": 7980.96, "end": 7988.079}, {"text": "were also questions about the planning process uh street parking traffic and how the town's Cedar Head Road Extension", "start": 7988.079, "end": 7993.679}, {"text": "might be implemented we're looking forward to working with the staff once we receive our official comments on this application um to address all of those", "start": 7993.679, "end": 7999.88}, {"text": "issues uh we we've shared all this information with staff for review and following today we look forward to uh", "start": 7999.88, "end": 8005.4}, {"text": "reviewing public comments Council comments and uh further staff comments as needed that's it everything for me", "start": 8005.4, "end": 8010.76}, {"text": "today thank you for your presentation is there any questions councelor councelor sheler uh thanks Mr chairman yeah I've", "start": 8010.76, "end": 8017.719}, {"text": "got a few uh so I'm assuming that uh the access to Der R would be uh to the West", "start": 8017.719, "end": 8023.8}, {"text": "only that's right just the West block all right and uh in terms of various", "start": 8023.8, "end": 8029.88}, {"text": "setbacks um between Uh current development and the development that", "start": 8029.88, "end": 8035.36}, {"text": "you're planned to do U what are you contemplating in terms of fencing and", "start": 8035.36, "end": 8040.52}, {"text": "and uh BMS and and uh plantings that kind of thing uh at this time we it's", "start": 8040.52, "end": 8047.639}, {"text": "it's early stages for that but we're definitely looking forward to working through detail design with staff um at", "start": 8047.639, "end": 8053.36}, {"text": "those further stages in terms of actual setbacks we are aligning with the zoning bylaw for for those areas okay and my", "start": 8053.36, "end": 8059.8}, {"text": "last question Mr chairman is uh around the park there is a Village Square planned uh I'm assuming it's going to be", "start": 8059.8, "end": 8066.44}, {"text": "an active uh Park that you're going be working with our staff in terms of uh", "start": 8066.44, "end": 8072.559}, {"text": "how it supports the community yeah that's right uh so we're still looking at programming through conversation with Town staff um but active and passive", "start": 8072.559, "end": 8080}, {"text": "programming okay and I appreciate the uh the construction management plan thanks", "start": 8080, "end": 8085.84}, {"text": "thanks thank you any other questions thank you sirar for your presentation We Now call on delegations", "start": 8085.84, "end": 8092.559}, {"text": "I understand there's a Mr gagin s wants to make a presentation sir like to come forward with", "start": 8092.559, "end": 8099.44}, {"text": "us sir could you turn on the microphone there thank you yeah sorry so yeah good", "start": 8103.559, "end": 8109.239}, {"text": "afternoon Gman again so I'm hre seeing you after four", "start": 8109.239, "end": 8116.199}, {"text": "years hi okay because this is B clean your area so yeah I just wanted your", "start": 8116.48, "end": 8123.92}, {"text": "uh attention a little bit so for this particular area uh so in uh my Prime", "start": 8123.92, "end": 8131.119}, {"text": "consideration is basically the East block where they are uh recommending to basically build 27 uh uh Street town", "start": 8131.119, "end": 8138.559}, {"text": "houses 54 uh back town to town houses and 160 apartment building which is", "start": 8138.559, "end": 8145.44}, {"text": "basically on around 4.2 acre which is the smaller plot okay", "start": 8145.44, "end": 8152.159}, {"text": "and uh there basically uh in total there would be around 467 parking so like", "start": 8152.159, "end": 8159.32}, {"text": "people 467 cars would be basically there so my question would be how the hell", "start": 8159.32, "end": 8167}, {"text": "these 467 people would be going from their houses in the", "start": 8167, "end": 8172.159}, {"text": "morning they will come out onto Dairy they have to take a uturn On Da to basically go ahead to either 407 or 401", "start": 8172.159, "end": 8180.679}, {"text": "and that particular intersection is next to basically a school so this is I don't", "start": 8180.679, "end": 8186.32}, {"text": "know um this particular thing doesn't even answer in uh any of the studies", "start": 8186.32, "end": 8192.558}, {"text": "which have been basically attached even though more interesting was the study", "start": 8192.559, "end": 8197.88}, {"text": "for the traffic and this was was like out of the fiction the uh they did it on September", "start": 8197.88, "end": 8206.518}, {"text": "19th the Ontario traffic Inc and according to them in the morning they", "start": 8206.519, "end": 8213.359}, {"text": "only found six pedestrians okay walking on Dairy so", "start": 8213.36, "end": 8219.719}, {"text": "there's a school there okay there's a uh go bus uh bus stop there people", "start": 8219.719, "end": 8227.24}, {"text": "basically kind of walk in the morning either to the closest rubber store there", "start": 8227.24, "end": 8232.678}, {"text": "uh to basically get the morning Lotter tickets or basically at Tim hon because there's a indor Tim hon there and they", "start": 8232.679, "end": 8239.24}, {"text": "only found six people six so basically This research which has been basically done on the traffic it", "start": 8239.24, "end": 8245.518}, {"text": "definitely sounds to me like the figures are not what exactly as a resident", "start": 8245.519, "end": 8252.28}, {"text": "living there I see so this particular I don't know how you can basically kind of go with this particular this is", "start": 8252.281, "end": 8258.96}, {"text": "something which the town needs to look into that how they can basically come up with figures I can basically kind of", "start": 8258.96, "end": 8266.16}, {"text": "count uh more than 15 people in the morning just going in front of of my", "start": 8266.16, "end": 8271.2}, {"text": "house to the uh go bu station between that particular time period that's", "start": 8271.2, "end": 8276.28}, {"text": "basically a p car everybody is basically kind of going to work and between six", "start": 8276.281, "end": 8281.439}, {"text": "and seven they basically found six people between eight and N only two people kind of going across so that", "start": 8281.44, "end": 8290.598}, {"text": "basically kind of boggles my mind how these particular figures are basically coming then the second thing is that", "start": 8290.599, "end": 8298.558}, {"text": "this whole design is basically lopsided they have put all the Condominiums uh", "start": 8298.559, "end": 8304.719}, {"text": "and stacked the town houses and everything on the east side on the West Side they have just given a big Park", "start": 8304.719, "end": 8311.12}, {"text": "people on the east side if they have to basically go onto the West Side they have to go all the way through the dairy", "start": 8311.12, "end": 8318.558}, {"text": "and then onto the park which is literally at the end next to uh basically storm water uh Pond and if", "start": 8318.559, "end": 8326.719}, {"text": "kids are basically paying there so they need to basically kind of keep an eye that okay nobody basically goes and jump", "start": 8326.719, "end": 8332.439}, {"text": "into the storm water park on sorry so that also needs to be basically taken", "start": 8332.44, "end": 8338.12}, {"text": "into consideration that the design which has been basically kind of proposed is a totally lopsided one side which is the", "start": 8338.12, "end": 8344.719}, {"text": "bigger side is uh very uh lightly populated the other side which is the", "start": 8344.719, "end": 8350}, {"text": "smallest uh of the two they have literally packed all every uh house", "start": 8350, "end": 8356.12}, {"text": "which they can Bic kind of conceived the tower the stack town house houses and", "start": 8356.12, "end": 8361.518}, {"text": "the town houses everything into the smaller so it's a lopsided development", "start": 8361.519, "end": 8366.88}, {"text": "which they have created and it's going to create traffic Mayhem the other thing", "start": 8366.88, "end": 8372.439}, {"text": "is that uh they haven't even considered the proper lighting uh they", 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"start": 8412.2, "end": 8418.08}, {"text": "possibly outline what you're uh the next steps are in terms of reviewing this process because gentleman's raised some", "start": 8418.08, "end": 8424.52}, {"text": "excellent points regarding traffic and parks and how staff review these", "start": 8424.52, "end": 8430.08}, {"text": "applications thank you Mr chair so so the applicant is proposing this", "start": 8430.08, "end": 8435.399}, {"text": "development this is the public meeting no decisions are being made tonight so I just wanted to to um clarify that in", "start": 8435.399, "end": 8443.359}, {"text": "terms of our review we will be reviewing all of the technical reports that have been submitted we also will be", "start": 8443.359, "end": 8450.08}, {"text": "considering all of the public comments that were were received and and yours most notably will will be addressed um", "start": 8450.08, "end": 8457.399}, {"text": "when we address this it will be through a technical report and I would", "start": 8457.399, "end": 8462.76}, {"text": "anticipate that technical report coming forward um sometime in mid", "start": 8462.76, "end": 8470.438}, {"text": "2025 perhaps earlier um it it just sort of depends on on how long it takes for", "start": 8472.12, "end": 8478.319}, {"text": "the review but um you will be notified of that if you give us your information and we can let you know when that's", "start": 8478.319, "end": 8485.479}, {"text": "happening thank you s delegation any other questions the staff or the delegation thank you for your time is", "start": 8485.479, "end": 8492}, {"text": "there anyone else in the audience or online that wishes to speak on this", "start": 8492, "end": 8497.04}, {"text": "item second time third and final okay we now have a motion by councelor Jazz and second by", "start": 8497.88, "end": 8505.12}, {"text": "councelor malbu that development services report DS 08224 we received from information any", "start": 8505.12, "end": 8511.12}, {"text": "questions this motion if not all those in favor motions", "start": 8511.12, "end": 8517.2}, {"text": "carried and now on to item 7.6 by Madame a Holmes clerk if you want", "start": 8519.16, "end": 8527.479}, {"text": "to introduce this uh this last public meeting is with regard to a proposed amendment by Madame", "start": 8527.479, "end": 8533.399}, {"text": "e brownwich limited to permit a mixed use development containing apartment buildings townhouse blocks and limited", "start": 8533.399, "end": 8539.12}, {"text": "ground retail uses Council will consider related bylaws at a future meeting if you wish to be notified of the decision", "start": 8539.12, "end": 8545.68}, {"text": "uh please sign the attendance sheet located at the back of council chamers make a written request to town clerk", "start": 8545.68, "end": 8551}, {"text": "milton. CA or you can contact the town clerk at 150 Mary Street in Milton following a presentation from the", "start": 8551, "end": 8557.319}, {"text": "applicant there'll be an opportunity for public comments from inperson and remote beating participants and we do have a", "start": 8557.319, "end": 8562.64}, {"text": "few uh delegations that have already uh registered with us uh during the presentation um information about how to", "start": 8562.64, "end": 8568.96}, {"text": "connect uh remotely will be scrolling across the live stream video um as a reminder the phone number is 1866 511", "start": 8568.96, "end": 8578.2}, {"text": "0021 thank you and I have an applicant come forward sir if you like to introduce", "start": 8578.2, "end": 8584.16}, {"text": "yourself good evening Mr chair counselors uh my name is Tim schar I", "start": 8585.88, "end": 8591.68}, {"text": "work with Madame holes uh the applicant in this uh this case um I work on the", "start": 8591.68, "end": 8599.76}, {"text": "development team with our Urban division um with a focus on Mid and high-rise", "start": 8599.76, "end": 8606.439}, {"text": "developments throughout the GTA uh tonight I'm presenting the um I", "start": 8606.439, "end": 8616.04}, {"text": "guess the The Proposal that we have in front of you tonight", "start": 8616.04, "end": 8621.76}, {"text": "um the community that we're proposing is located um adjacent to the intersection", "start": 8621.76, "end": 8628.12}, {"text": "of Fon Drive and Louis St laon um it's part of a larger master", "start": 8628.12, "end": 8635.04}, {"text": "plan community that Madam has been um in the process of building out uh you can", "start": 8635.04, "end": 8641.12}, {"text": "see on on the slide here there is a number of houses uh under construction", "start": 8641.12, "end": 8646.84}, {"text": "the uh aerial photo here is a bit out ofd um as the uh work around the block", "start": 8646.84, "end": 8654.8}, {"text": "uh highlighted in yellow is is well underway and many of the houses there are well under construction at this", "start": 8654.8, "end": 8662.72}, {"text": "point um the community that we are here to talk about today is is the block highlighted in yellow that I will", "start": 8662.72, "end": 8670.319}, {"text": "um provide a little bit more detail on in a few minutes", "start": 8670.319, "end": 8675.398}, {"text": "here um to give a little bit of flavor to the uh the existing policy framework", "start": 8676.6, "end": 8683.68}, {"text": "um for for the uh community in question here um I guess reading the screen left", "start": 8683.68, "end": 8691.439}, {"text": "right here uh so we are proposing the zoning bylaw Amendment uh the current", "start": 8691.439, "end": 8698.08}, {"text": "zoning applied to these lands is the future development Zone and we are proposing to uh transition them to the", "start": 8698.08, "end": 8705.68}, {"text": "mixed use Zone with uh a few site specific amendments applied to", "start": 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{"text": "um coming up here I've got a couple different uh different renderings just to give a little bit of sense of of", "start": 8979.8, "end": 8987.359}, {"text": "uh of what the development might look like um these are conceptual renderings", "start": 8987.359, "end": 8992.439}, {"text": "at this point um ultimately the renderings will be further defined in the the actual def", "start": 8992.439, "end": 8998.64}, {"text": "definition of of what the uh the buildings will look like will uh be", "start": 8998.64, "end": 9003.84}, {"text": "dealt with in more detail during this site plan approval phase um so here you can see the the", "start": 9003.84, "end": 9010.84}, {"text": "three apartment buildings um are a little bit more obvious because they have a little bit more detail to them", "start": 9010.84, "end": 9016.6}, {"text": "and then the tow houses that we are proposing um are some of the white boxes", "start": 9016.6, "end": 9022.6}, {"text": "uh that that fall behind um you 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9132.2}, {"text": "um so as you can see on the plan here the the subject site kind of Nestles in", "start": 9132.2, "end": 9137.72}, {"text": "with the uh existing uh madamey plan that we are currently", "start": 9137.72, "end": 9143.84}, {"text": "building out um many of the houses in in what's shown on the slide here is Phase five", "start": 9143.84, "end": 9150.319}, {"text": "are well under construction at this point um and we are effectively just uh", "start": 9150.319, "end": 9158.279}, {"text": "working here today to finalize the zoning to ultimately bring this full sight uh or this full community to uh to", "start": 9158.279, "end": 9166.04}, {"text": "fruition um another couple of renderings so this", "start": 9166.04, "end": 9172.52}, {"text": "is a a view of of what the site might look like from um from Louis St laon", "start": 9172.52, "end": 9178.479}, {"text": "looking into the site along the uh the woodlot another image uh highlighting a", "start": 9178.479, "end": 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know there's a bunch of delegations here as well um in", "start": 9280.68, "end": 9288.399}, {"text": "regards to how we got here and how these lands are zoned under a plan under the bo secondary plan particularly I believe", "start": 9288.399, "end": 9294.72}, {"text": "one of the previous um slideshows not this one but a few public meetings ago", "start": 9294.72, "end": 9300.96}, {"text": "uh indicated that the bo secondary plan was approved in about 2013 is that", "start": 9300.96, "end": 9306.76}, {"text": "correct all right so 2010 uh at that time what was the designation of these", "start": 9306.84, "end": 9313.08}, {"text": "lands indicated as because the applicant's presentation says that the max height allowed is 15 stories", "start": 9313.08, "end": 9321.04}, {"text": "uh through the chair to counselor Ki uh that was done through the bo secondary plan uh back in 2010 and because this is", "start": 9322.96, "end": 9330.8}, {"text": "a a a sub node uh the permissions granted were for um maximum 15 stories", "start": 9330.8, "end": 9337.92}, {"text": "and Heights for any um high density blocks okay all right thanks", "start": 9337.92, "end": 9343.24}, {"text": "commissioner um I'm going to be very Frank the area of L laurant and Ferguson Drive is a", "start": 9343.24, "end": 9349.16}, {"text": "disaster as it currently is excuse", "start": 9349.16, "end": 9354.16}, {"text": "me councelor KY if you just limit yourself to questions right now the delegation have comments later thank you", "start": 9357.68, "end": 9363.68}, {"text": "yes Mr chair due to traffic issues in the area heavy level of pedestrians specifically", "start": 9363.68, "end": 9369.439}, {"text": "student pedestrians and all that uh what studies or or impacts have you assessed so far as it pertains to mitigating", "start": 9369.439, "end": 9375.92}, {"text": "those challenges obviously I appreciate that you've come here with building Heights that are lower than what the max allows but uh have you done any", "start": 9375.92, "end": 9382.6}, {"text": "preliminary work in consideration for the area there yeah so um through through our", "start": 9382.6, "end": 9388.72}, {"text": "Consulting team through uh um VA Consultants uh we have prepared a a", "start": 9388.72, "end": 9394.64}, {"text": "transportation study um that looks at um", "start": 9394.64, "end": 9399.92}, {"text": "the transportation impacts that are caused by the the development um at at", "start": 9399.92, "end": 9405.68}, {"text": "this point the um the study itself f i finds that", "start": 9405.68, "end": 9412.52}, {"text": "the proposed impacts of this development um will not have a uh drastic impact on", "start": 9412.52, "end": 9419.56}, {"text": "the area um should there be any further Transportation questions we do have our", "start": 9419.56, "end": 9426.359}, {"text": "uh our TR Transportation consultant on the line um virtually that uh can chime", "start": 9426.359, "end": 9431.64}, {"text": "in and answer some other questions in more detail okay um additionally in regards", "start": 9431.64, "end": 9438.479}, {"text": "to the concept of I guess the inner parts of the the premise here um is", "start": 9438.479, "end": 9443.8}, {"text": "there any opportunity for a privately owned public space or playground or some sort of parket there as", "start": 9443.8, "end": 9449.56}, {"text": "well so in in terms of the the actual design of of", "start": 9449.56, "end": 9455.76}, {"text": "the amenities inside the condominium in detail um those are still very much um", "start": 9455.76, "end": 9462.319}, {"text": "open for design so we we can absolutely um work towards providing the right uh", "start": 9462.319, "end": 9468.96}, {"text": "the right type of amenity space um to meet the needs of the", "start": 9468.96, "end": 9474.8}, {"text": "uh ultimately the homeowners in the community um in terms of the privately", "start": 9474.8, "end": 9482.359}, {"text": "owned public spaces um that that is something that um at at this time um", "start": 9482.359, "end": 9491.08}, {"text": "Madame would be open to discussions on however with um through through", "start": 9491.08, "end": 9497.359}, {"text": "conversations that we've we've had um with with the town it does not um seem", "start": 9497.359, "end": 9504.24}, {"text": "like there necessarily is a need or um", "start": 9504.24, "end": 9510.359}, {"text": "find them appropriate for this location okay um I appreciate that is as", "start": 9510.359, "end": 9515.8}, {"text": "long as that can be kept open I think that would be ideal there too uh in regards to I I think the proposal here", "start": 9515.8, "end": 9521.68}, {"text": "also includes the incorporation of retail space at one of the levels of the building there um was has parking been", "start": 9521.68, "end": 9529.279}, {"text": "given given in consideration in there in regards to where Vehicles would park if somebody from that doesn't live at the development wants to access those retail", "start": 9529.279, "end": 9535.16}, {"text": "space where would they Park yeah so um as as part of the Town standard zoning", "start": 9535.16, "end": 9542.8}, {"text": "bylaw there is is uh requirements that are being met under the um under the", "start": 9542.8, "end": 9548.64}, {"text": "proposal in terms of of retail parking um the retail parking would would", "start": 9548.64, "end": 9554.24}, {"text": "share um in the requirements that uh the visitor parking of the residential would", "start": 9554.24, "end": 9559.8}, {"text": "largely because those uses often fall at opposite times so um it's a good", "start": 9559.8, "end": 9565.319}, {"text": "efficient mixed use use of uh parking spaces um there is I'll say a relatively", "start": 9565.319, "end": 9572.76}, {"text": "small quantity of of retail currently being proposed it is it's um basically", "start": 9572.76, "end": 9578.279}, {"text": "the amount that uh that the plan would allow ultimately Mami is flexible on the", "start": 9578.279, "end": 9583.6}, {"text": "retail space if if there is a strong desire for it uh as we did here uh some", "start": 9583.6, "end": 9589.359}, {"text": "comments about it at the informal public meeting um we certainly are are willing", "start": 9589.359, "end": 9594.439}, {"text": "to implement it which is why it's now been added to the plans however if there is a strong opposition to it we also", "start": 9594.439, "end": 9599.56}, {"text": "aren't married to it in any way and just just to wrap up here this final question is going to be in", "start": 9599.56, "end": 9605.04}, {"text": "relation to the on-site and underground parking that's available there um in terms of how many units that are being", "start": 9605.04, "end": 9611}, {"text": "proposed here versus how many parking spaces are going to be allocated can you just explain how many parking spaces there are for residents that would live", "start": 9611, "end": 9618.08}, {"text": "there yeah so our um our current zoning bylaw Amendment uh speaks exactly to the", "start": 9618.08, "end": 9625.96}, {"text": "the rates uh proposed in the town's housekeeping Amendment um so one one", "start": 9625.96, "end": 9632.2}, {"text": "unit or one stall per unit for Resident parking and 02 stalls for visitor", "start": 9632.2, "end": 9638.479}, {"text": "parking ultimately we have to sell these units so um in in a way we we are incentivized", "start": 9638.479, "end": 9646}, {"text": "to make sure that we are providing the right amount of parking for um ultimately our future purchasers um so", "start": 9646, "end": 9653.6}, {"text": "if if the market kind of Demands for for additional parking stalls that's certainly what we will we will look to", "start": 9653.6, "end": 9660.04}, {"text": "do um but the the zoning Amendment currently contemplates for uh one stall", "start": 9660.04, "end": 9667.88}, {"text": "per unit all right Mr sh that's all for now thank you councelor Ellie thank you Mr", "start": 9667.88, "end": 9674.96}, {"text": "chair through you I was looking at the design and I see this building right off of uh Louis St lauran and I've seen that", "start": 9674.96, "end": 9682.04}, {"text": "design a lot uh off in mamy projects wondering if there's an opportunity to put this in the back because when you're", "start": 9682.04, "end": 9688.88}, {"text": "driving down and you see this big tall building it's it's not good for the", "start": 9688.88, "end": 9694.279}, {"text": "sight lines I'm just speaking aesthetically you could have architectural reasons for doing that technical reasons so perhaps educate me", "start": 9694.279, "end": 9701.52}, {"text": "on that yeah so um i' I'd say generally", "start": 9701.52, "end": 9707.64}, {"text": "from an Urban Design perspective perspective um we usually um look to put", "start": 9707.64, "end": 9712.88}, {"text": "kind of um the larger larger built forms along", "start": 9712.88, "end": 9718.76}, {"text": "um uh kind of main rways just from a uh a general Urban Design perspective", "start": 9718.76, "end": 9725.96}, {"text": "um part of the reason that this this works um well is obviously um you know", "start": 9725.96, "end": 9733.56}, {"text": "when when you are against the main road it does allow for a little bit more transition um throughout the the width", "start": 9733.56, "end": 9739.88}, {"text": "of the right away um in terms of of uh the size of the", "start": 9739.88, "end": 9746.96}, {"text": "buildings okay so you're you're trying to build this up like that okay understood thank", "start": 9746.96, "end": 9752.84}, {"text": "you councelor Jess thank you Mr chair I uh Echo Council ki's uh um sentiments as", "start": 9752.84, "end": 9760.8}, {"text": "well as narrative uh more units more traffic more cars adding congestion jams potential safety issues uh what I'd like", "start": 9760.8, "end": 9767.56}, {"text": "to know is is there a way to require more traffic study", "start": 9767.56, "end": 9773.199}, {"text": "data um C certainly should uh should the", "start": 9773.52, "end": 9778.6}, {"text": "um Town Town staff agree with that sentiment we would certainly be um be", "start": 9778.6, "end": 9785}, {"text": "happy to to provide some additional um data or research um in order to make", "start": 9785, "end": 9791.8}, {"text": "sure that ultimately staff and counsel are satisfied so through you Mr chair I don't know if this is the right time to", "start": 9791.8, "end": 9798.72}, {"text": "ask maybe our commissioner in regards to if enough data is there uh to make", "start": 9798.72, "end": 9804.08}, {"text": "certain decisions but if there is a way to request more data on traffic study I", "start": 9804.08, "end": 9809.24}, {"text": "would appreciate that thank you if staff could possibly answer we'll take that under advisement", "start": 9809.24, "end": 9816.12}, {"text": "um we do have the traffic impact study that was submitted but if there are any gaps our our staff will acknowledge", "start": 9816.12, "end": 9822.04}, {"text": "those and request for further data moving forward so we're on top of that", "start": 9822.04, "end": 9827.24}, {"text": "thank you thank you very much that'd be it any other questions of the applicant", "start": 9827.24, "end": 9833.12}, {"text": "if not thank you sir now open the public delegations we have four people already", "start": 9833.12, "end": 9838.96}, {"text": "listed plus anyone else in the audience could call on Ann gilter to come", "start": 9838.96, "end": 9844.76}, {"text": "forward oh could you turn the microphone yeah thank you yeah and also the original meeting in September with Madam", "start": 9851.72, "end": 9859.6}, {"text": "and from the that meeting I came in way with a great deal of concerns regarding the proposed", "start": 9859.6, "end": 9864.72}, {"text": "development uh I believe that they've grossly underestimated the traffic increase because due to the 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"start": 9907.96, "end": 9913.16}, {"text": "traffic again that's cruly underestimated with the number of people being driven back to work and the cost", "start": 9913.16, "end": 9918.439}, {"text": "of hous the people who are going to be buying these units are going to be new homeowners the houses are what condos", "start": 9918.439, "end": 9924.439}, {"text": "are going 5 $600,000 that is a $2500 to $3,000 a month mortgage that's going to take two", "start": 9924.439, "end": 9931.479}, {"text": "incomes to pay if they're going to have condo fees groceries utilities", "start": 9931.479, "end": 9936.96}, {"text": "taxes you're not going to have one car so where are the extra car is going to go with a one car parking", "start": 9936.96, "end": 9943.04}, {"text": "lot uh additional concerns are the causing of congestions in the streets if", "start": 9943.04, "end": 9949.16}, {"text": "we have the cars leave it and the Ferguson is the only egress from that", "start": 9949.16, "end": 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9997.76}, {"text": "of having these condos staring down into where the school is I believe that if you build those condo buildings they", "start": 9997.76, "end": 10004.16}, {"text": "should be no more than five or six stories high to at least let sunlight into the school yard because the way it", "start": 10004.16, "end": 10009.88}, {"text": "looks from here those kidss are going to be in Shadow for all the winter months those are just some of the", "start": 10009.88, "end": 10015.08}, {"text": "concerns that I have about this development thank you presentation any", "start": 10015.08, "end": 10020.359}, {"text": "questions the delegation if not thank you for your time and staff over taking note of everything uh second delegation", "start": 10020.359, "end": 10027.64}, {"text": "Mandy oos my apologies for M pronouncing your last", "start": 10027.64, "end": 10033.76}, {"text": "name Mandy or uh thank you for letting me speak tonight uh giving me this opportunity to", "start": 10037.2, "end": 10043.8}, {"text": "voice my concerns regarding the proposed construction of the three condo buildings in our residential area while", "start": 10043.8, "end": 10050.2}, {"text": "development and growth are important I urge you to reconsider this project due to several significant issues that will", "start": 10050.2, "end": 10057.16}, {"text": "negatively impact our community firstly the issue of parking cannot be overlooked which we've heard many times", "start": 10057.16, "end": 10062.8}, {"text": "this evening the proposed condos offer insufficient parking spaces which will undoubtedly lead to to parking overflow", "start": 10062.8, "end": 10070.319}, {"text": "on our already congested streets the proposed retail spaces will have no designated parking creating more traffic", "start": 10070.319, "end": 10077.56}, {"text": "and pedestrian issues with the students wanting to cross the road from Craig kilberg a condo development with more", "start": 10077.56, "end": 10084.76}, {"text": "than 500 units and only one parking spot per unit is simply insufficient", "start": 10084.76, "end": 10090.479}, {"text": "considering the modern reality that many households own more than and use more than one vehicle this common scenario", "start": 10090.479, "end": 10097.16}, {"text": "means residents will face significant ific parking challenges leading to congestion and frustration with limited", "start": 10097.16, "end": 10103.64}, {"text": "parking spots available the overflow will spill onto our neighboring streets and school parking lots straining the", "start": 10103.64, "end": 10110.24}, {"text": "already limited public parking infrastructure and creating potential conflicts among residents and local", "start": 10110.24, "end": 10117.439}, {"text": "community such inadequacy will not only inconvenience our residents but also", "start": 10117.439, "end": 10122.76}, {"text": "affect the overall livability and attractiveness of this condo making it", "start": 10122.76, "end": 10128}, {"text": "essential to reassess and decrease units to minimize the impact on the local", "start": 10128, "end": 10133.479}, {"text": "community furthermore our neighborhood has recently seen three new developments", "start": 10133.479, "end": 10139.479}, {"text": "and one going further on to um the corner of Louis St Leon and James snow uh this is resulting in a", "start": 10139.479, "end": 10146.64}, {"text": "significant rise in population this increased density is putting strain on our resources and", "start": 10146.64, "end": 10152.08}, {"text": "infrastructure with all the local amenities schooling and Services located to the northwest of these development", "start": 10152.08, "end": 10158.72}, {"text": "Vel ments current roads will not be able to support this increase resulting in increased traffic on residential roads", "start": 10158.72, "end": 10165.279}, {"text": "being used as shortcuts the addition of these condos will not only compound will compound", "start": 10165.279, "end": 10171.56}, {"text": "these issues secondly our local schools are already grappling with major traffic", "start": 10171.56, "end": 10178.6}, {"text": "congestion the proposed location of these condos is in an area with the highest concentration of schools along", "start": 10178.6, "end": 10185.279}, {"text": "Louis St lone with a new school Catholic School next to the forest that is set to be", "start": 10185.279, "end": 10191}, {"text": "built adding three large condo buildings will exasperate this problem creating a", "start": 10191, "end": 10196.04}, {"text": "dangerous situation for children and pedestrians The increased traffic and potential for accidents are serious", "start": 10196.04, "end": 10202.72}, {"text": "concerns that need to be addressed building a condo in an already overcrowded school zone presents", "start": 10202.72, "end": 10208.8}, {"text": "significant risks particularly regarding pedestrian safety the influx of new", "start": 10208.8, "end": 10213.96}, {"text": "residents will exasperate the existing congestion making it increasingly difficult for our children to safely", "start": 10213.96, "end": 10220.12}, {"text": "navigate their way to and from school the increased traffic poses a heightened", "start": 10220.12, "end": 10225.279}, {"text": "danger to pedestrians especially young children who may not be fully aware of these risks this development could lead", "start": 10225.279, "end": 10232.84}, {"text": "to more traffic incidents and putting our safety of our community's children at Great Peril prioritizing the safety", "start": 10232.84, "end": 10239.92}, {"text": "and well-being of our students should be Paramount and constructing additional", "start": 10239.92, "end": 10245.08}, {"text": "housing in such a densely populated area dur directly contradicts this priority", "start": 10245.08, "end": 10251.68}, {"text": "we must seek alternative solutions that do not compromise the safy safety and quality of our community the", "start": 10251.68, "end": 10258.76}, {"text": "overcrowding of our local schools has reached a critical level severely impacting the quality of education and", "start": 10258.76, "end": 10265.279}, {"text": "student well-being recent boundary reviews for Hawthorne Village Public School indicates that these new", "start": 10265.279, "end": 10270.479}, {"text": "developments will be and housing will attend this school as mentioned before", "start": 10270.479, "end": 10275.8}, {"text": "this will increase Northwest traffic through residential neighborhoods adding to the already congested parent drop off", "start": 10275.8, "end": 10282.88}, {"text": "and pickup Roots Madam homes builds a dream but not", "start": 10282.88, "end": 10288.16}, {"text": "a reality and once these dreams are sold they have no responsibility in dealing with the burden of the complications", "start": 10288.16, "end": 10295.239}, {"text": "that arise for example their developments feature short driveways that fail to accommodate resident", "start": 10295.239, "end": 10300.8}, {"text": "Vehicles particularly in multif family homes and homes that need to rent out to", "start": 10300.8, "end": 10306}, {"text": "afford to live there this caused significant parking challenges that the city then has to deal with as bylaw", "start": 10306, "end": 10313.68}, {"text": "infractions if these buildings go up the city will be the one that'll have to deal with the wake of the issues that", "start": 10313.68, "end": 10319.439}, {"text": "will arise in conclusion while development is necessary it should not come at the cost", "start": 10319.439, "end": 10325.239}, {"text": "of our community safety quality of life and well-being I urge this city council", "start": 10325.239, "end": 10330.479}, {"text": "to consider these serious concerns and reject this proposal for these condo buildings we have to work together to", "start": 10330.479, "end": 10336.8}, {"text": "find a more suitable and sustainable solution for our neighborhood I leave you with this challenge though I", "start": 10336.8, "end": 10342.92}, {"text": "challenge Council to provide me with a positive example in the GTA of three 10-story or in this case 12", "start": 10342.92, "end": 10351.56}, {"text": "story buildings that are built directly in a single family residential area off", "start": 10351.56, "end": 10357.239}, {"text": "a two-lane road within 500 me meters of five schools with no direct access to", "start": 10357.239, "end": 10365.6}, {"text": "shopping Source within a 500 meter radius this development is a glaring example of", "start": 10365.6, "end": 10372.479}, {"text": "what a builder can do when new construction sales are down at trying to keep their profit", "start": 10372.479, "end": 10379.12}, {"text": "up thank you for your time and consideration thank you your", "start": 10379.12, "end": 10384.681}, {"text": "presentation is there any questions of the delegation if not thank you for your presentation our next speaker is Fred", "start": 10386.16, "end": 10394.04}, {"text": "henna like to come forward sir", "start": 10394.04, "end": 10398.439}, {"text": "at the September meeting information meeting Mr schar presented the same presentation the buildings were 10 story", "start": 10406.6, "end": 10413.68}, {"text": "high 12 story high today they went up 25 I left the meeting with the", "start": 10413.68, "end": 10419.479}, {"text": "impression they're going down they went up and I hear from Council 12 I stand corrected", "start": 10419.479, "end": 10428.56}, {"text": "I hear from Council that you're looking at reducing the parking formula from 1.5", "start": 10428.56, "end": 10434.12}, {"text": "per unit to one based on exceptions that have been given to existing building", "start": 10434.12, "end": 10440.359}, {"text": "that are under construction that have never been occupied so you have no way of gauging the real impact on those", "start": 10440.359, "end": 10446.8}, {"text": "building half of them are still empty how can you make that change when you have not tested it in", "start": 10446.8, "end": 10452.359}, {"text": "practice and you're doing it in a community where we have a school we were", "start": 10452.359, "end": 10457.84}, {"text": "just talking here two minutes ago about s CRA Burger is not much better in", "start": 10457.84, "end": 10465.84}, {"text": "the presentation the traffic person told us that they expect out of the 600 units", "start": 10465.84, "end": 10471.68}, {"text": "only 200 occupant will get in their car go to work in the morning and the", "start": 10471.68, "end": 10477.8}, {"text": "balance of them 400 will work from home how many people do you know on your", "start": 10477.8, "end": 10484.479}, {"text": "own streets work from home we need to have those building allowed they don't", "start": 10484.479, "end": 10490.68}, {"text": "have to be 12 and 15 stories they need to be reasonable for the neighborhood for the traffic it's a horrible place to", "start": 10490.68, "end": 10499.04}, {"text": "put more traffic congestion I don't know what we're doing to our city thank", "start": 10499.04, "end": 10505.72}, {"text": "you just hold there for a second think there's no questions the", "start": 10505.72, "end": 10511.8}, {"text": "delegation if not okay on the next speaker Bill King to come forward sir", "start": 10511.8, "end": 10519.6}, {"text": "after there may be more after those three oh there will be more okay good um good evening your worship and uh and", "start": 10526.92, "end": 10533.04}, {"text": "esteemed members of council my name is Bill King and I'm a resident of ward 3 uh in Milton I'm here tonight speaking", "start": 10533.04, "end": 10538.359}, {"text": "on behalf of a number of residents living on Stuart Crescent that have traffic concerns related to the m", "start": 10538.359, "end": 10543.76}, {"text": "proposed three condominium Towers in the area of Louis STW and Ferguson Drive a lot of the details have already been", "start": 10543.76, "end": 10549.12}, {"text": "discussed um I'll preface my spe specific concerns with uh by first commenting on the current traffic", "start": 10549.12, "end": 10555.359}, {"text": "conditions in the area most specifically on Ferguson Drive Louis ston and fourth", "start": 10555.359, "end": 10560.439}, {"text": "line for approximately two hours every weekday one hour in the morning and one hour in the afternoon households as well", "start": 10560.439, "end": 10567.76}, {"text": "as the general public attempting to access any of these roads are held hostage by the amount of traffic created", "start": 10567.76, "end": 10573.72}, {"text": "by students at Craig kelberg High School either walking riding scootering or most", "start": 10573.72, "end": 10578.84}, {"text": "dramatically being dropped off and picked up by parents I expect that this topic has no", "start": 10578.84, "end": 10584.479}, {"text": "doubt been brought before Council before today and certainly today and will certainly be supported by councelor Keli", "start": 10584.479, "end": 10591.76}, {"text": "the level of chaos and unsafe conditions in this area is absurd frustrating and maddening the residents I represent", "start": 10591.76, "end": 10599.12}, {"text": "acknowledge the requirements set in place by the province and region with regard to the necessity to develop space", "start": 10599.12, "end": 10604.279}, {"text": "for housing and more specifically for high density housing and we're not gener stand in the way of this sort of", "start": 10604.279, "end": 10609.56}, {"text": "progress today there are three schools and student to be before that have students being transported to this", "start": 10609.56, "end": 10615.52}, {"text": "location the Condominium Apartments are proposing to add 520 units right in the middle of this very busy area I", "start": 10615.52, "end": 10622.8}, {"text": "understand from an inside Halton article dated September 29th the madami hosted a public meeting where the concerns over", "start": 10622.8, "end": 10628.96}, {"text": "this very issue were um for Forefront and residents Minds it is unfair and", "start": 10628.96, "end": 10634.96}, {"text": "unreasonable that residents should have to stay home or stay away during these times exacerbating the problem by adding", "start": 10634.96, "end": 10642.479}, {"text": "highdensity housing at its epicenter is unreasonable in conclusion our group", "start": 10642.479, "end": 10647.68}, {"text": "recognizes that highdensity housing is going to happen this said we strongly urge Town Council to not approve the", "start": 10647.68, "end": 10653.8}, {"text": "zoning bylaw Amendment for this specific area as adding this level of additional traffic will continue to Ill frustrate", "start": 10653.8, "end": 10660.239}, {"text": "residents and will contribute to an increase in unsafe conditions for students and for motorists thank", "start": 10660.239, "end": 10666.12}, {"text": "you thank your presentation any questions the delegation if not thank you sir now open it", "start": 10666.12, "end": 10673.68}, {"text": "up that was our list of registered speakers now open to anyone sir if you like to come forward raise your hand", "start": 10673.68, "end": 10679.84}, {"text": "there if you just introduce yourself and your", "start": 10679.84, "end": 10684.721}, {"text": "concerns yes hi my name is Arlan Khan and uh I am uh living in Milton for very", "start": 10685.479, "end": 10692.04}, {"text": "long time like 2012 and um I also going to move into this new area that mat me", "start": 10692.04, "end": 10699.279}, {"text": "is building uh so I have uh three kids and uh they will be going to the new", "start": 10699.279, "end": 10708.16}, {"text": "high schools Catholic High School um so I'm just uh I have couple of concerns", "start": 10708.16, "end": 10715.439}, {"text": "like and adding to the e goinging to the existing me me uh members that have raised concerns uh so there are actually", "start": 10715.439, "end": 10723.439}, {"text": "uh uh two high schools U and uh two uh", "start": 10723.439, "end": 10728.6}, {"text": "to uh elementary schools in the same vinity of less than 1 kilometer area so", "start": 10728.6, "end": 10735.04}, {"text": "which is already have kids coming in and going out and also there is a on the", "start": 10735.04, "end": 10741.319}, {"text": "Thompson and the Louis and La uh area there lot of e3 places so where kids in", "start": 10741.319, "end": 10748.439}, {"text": "the uh during the uh uh during the time they go for lunch and everything so", "start": 10748.439, "end": 10754.04}, {"text": "there are lot of moments kids are going going in and out and so it's uh", "start": 10754.04, "end": 10759.64}, {"text": "very um adding this kind of a high traffic will put risk to the children", "start": 10759.64, "end": 10766.08}, {"text": "and uh it's to the safety of the of the kids um also um when I sign up for this", "start": 10766.08, "end": 10774}, {"text": "uh uh for the house at that time it just they mentioned that there's a uh there's", "start": 10774, "end": 10780}, {"text": "a high density and mid high density area coming in this area but it was not uh", "start": 10780, "end": 10785.399}, {"text": "mentioned uh the exact location so when I uh look into this uh new renderings um", "start": 10785.399, "end": 10793.239}, {"text": "I find out that one of the building the building I believe the", "start": 10793.239, "end": 10798.8}, {"text": "building building B is very close to the uh to the house and if in the in my", "start": 10802.399, "end": 10814.08}, {"text": "backyard if it's if they build like 10 story building this there will be no sun", "start": 10814.08, "end": 10819.239}, {"text": "coming there it's just always dark because so close so I have no idea how", "start": 10819.239, "end": 10826.72}, {"text": "it's getting uh getting approved with this with those things so yeah thank you", "start": 10826.72, "end": 10834.2}, {"text": "for your presentation and sir and for yourself and for everybody else that's here that wants to be kept in touch", "start": 10834.2, "end": 10840.12}, {"text": "please sign the register at the back so that staff can keep in touch with you any questions the delegation if not", "start": 10840.12, "end": 10846.08}, {"text": "thank you sir for your presentation anyone else in the audience I understand there's no remote", "start": 10846.08, "end": 10851.88}, {"text": "calls for a second time anyone else in the audience that want to speak because staff are taking your comments and", "start": 10851.88, "end": 10858.239}, {"text": "concerns down sir if you like to come", "start": 10858.239, "end": 10862.319}, {"text": "forward I would like to basically kind of put a suggestion to the Town Council", "start": 10864.56, "end": 10871.6}, {"text": "that they basically conduct end to endend uh Town traffic analysis because", "start": 10871.6, "end": 10877.96}, {"text": "what is happening is uh these multi-story buildings they are basically coming up like mushrooms one is coming", "start": 10877.96, "end": 10883.64}, {"text": "on Kennedy one is coming on Ontario and der then we had basically a couple of", "start": 10883.64, "end": 10889}, {"text": "more recommendations couple are coming near the main street so the problem is", "start": 10889, "end": 10895.64}, {"text": "that all these particular condos which are basically coming they would be basically having a domino effect on the", "start": 10895.64, "end": 10901.72}, {"text": "traffic now whenever these traffic studies are basically conducted they are just conducted in a localized area at", "start": 10901.72, "end": 10908.399}, {"text": "where the building would be basically coming but what about the traffic which is coming say anybody uh who is", "start": 10908.399, "end": 10915.12}, {"text": "basically kind of say uh living on 24 on Ontario if they have to basically go to", "start": 10915.12, "end": 10921.239}, {"text": "401 there are only two intersections in Milton and most of them they basically use the uh James snow Parkway uh", "start": 10921.239, "end": 10930}, {"text": "intersection so every all the traffic would be basically kind of ending up there and uh there hasn't been any of", "start": 10930, "end": 10938.92}, {"text": "the traffic study which has happened for the traffic analysis they haven't taken", "start": 10938.92, "end": 10944.96}, {"text": "into consideration the traffic which is basically coming from behind and the new development which would be happening", "start": 10944.96, "end": 10951.68}, {"text": "which would add additional traffic in there and so for example in der now when", "start": 10951.68, "end": 10958.399}, {"text": "I moved here there were I think around five or six traffic lights now within a", "start": 10958.399, "end": 10965.52}, {"text": "span of 2 to 3 years they have been additional four or five traffic lights which have been just introduced onto da", "start": 10965.52, "end": 10972.239}, {"text": "so that needs to be basically kind of taken into consideration that uh all this new", "start": 10972.239, "end": 10978.399}, {"text": "traffic rules which we are basically uh imposing plus the additional people", "start": 10978.399, "end": 10985}, {"text": "which would be basically moving into Milton what would be the traffic impact on the existing and then people would be", "start": 10985, "end": 10991.279}, {"text": "basically using all these shortcuts they would basically kind of go into small streets and uh then basically running uh", "start": 10991.279, "end": 10999.56}, {"text": "because they need to basically reach office in time so somebody's basically speeding uh in a in a lan just to", "start": 10999.56, "end": 11007.68}, {"text": "basically kind of reach to 401 in time well uh we can't basically kind of argue", "start": 11007.68, "end": 11014}, {"text": "that okay hey you need to basically kind of go route because we didn't do a proper town planning so you have to go", "start": 11014, "end": 11020.56}, {"text": "all the way uh take 30 minutes or basically kind of leave at 5:00 in the morning so this needs to basically kind", "start": 11020.56, "end": 11028.399}, {"text": "of considered by the town thank you your presentation any questions if not thank", "start": 11028.399, "end": 11034.56}, {"text": "you is there anyone else yes we got two people in the back lady in the front first you like to come forward introduce", "start": 11034.56, "end": 11043.12}, {"text": "yourself so my name is Maran and thank you Mr chairman to give me the chance", "start": 11043.72, "end": 11048.8}, {"text": "and councils okay that oh okay I'm too short okay so I don't want to repeat", "start": 11048.8, "end": 11056.52}, {"text": "everything like those guys have nailed it already I have only two things to talk about is today is um where are the", "start": 11056.52, "end": 11064.04}, {"text": "green Parks or the fields for the kids to play there are already four schools in plan there is not even one park in", "start": 11064.04, "end": 11072.399}, {"text": "the hon uh H East uh Village uh for the kids um the other thing is that with the", "start": 11072.399, "end": 11080.8}, {"text": "study they have made for the traffic was the study made on two schools or three", "start": 11080.8, "end": 11087.2}, {"text": "schools or the fourth School the the four and the the fourth school that is planned to be there so I'm I'm not too", "start": 11087.2, "end": 11094.8}, {"text": "sure what the traffic study they have made was it made for the four schools as well as of course the condos", "start": 11094.8, "end": 11103.239}, {"text": "and the traffic and the area that has been made also for FreshCo and all the", "start": 11103.239, "end": 11110}, {"text": "um what's it called the um uh uh the area opposite to uh Tim Haron", "start": 11110, "end": 11118.399}, {"text": "it's all also like a plaza and there's so much traffic in there so that's all", "start": 11118.399, "end": 11125.319}, {"text": "what I wanted to say um thank you thank you for your presentation any questions if not could staff also clarify what the", "start": 11125.319, "end": 11132.68}, {"text": "parks plans are in this area just so that the residents in the area can understand what's going", "start": 11132.68, "end": 11139.438}, {"text": "on there's going to be a Village Square very close by and there's also going to", "start": 11139.52, "end": 11145.04}, {"text": "be a neighborhood park in the ajacent baby Lexus Madam subdivision so there", "start": 11145.04, "end": 11150.64}, {"text": "will be new parks uh within close proximity yeah we're just having first", "start": 11150.64, "end": 11156.76}, {"text": "time speakers first there was another lady at the back there that wanted to speak if don't to come", "start": 11156.76, "end": 11162.359}, {"text": "forward yeah I'm trying to get to all the first time speakers first then I'll come back to a second", "start": 11162.359, "end": 11169.04}, {"text": "time thank you Mr chair um I live in the uh same area uh Ferguson and uh excuse", "start": 11169.52, "end": 11178.12}, {"text": "me can we get your name first please sorry my name is Sophia so Maidu so I'm", "start": 11178.12, "end": 11183.16}, {"text": "part of the same area I Echo the concerns that all the other residents of the area have raised and um I'm not", "start": 11183.16, "end": 11190.52}, {"text": "going to talk about how dangerous it's going to be for the kids my own kids go to CK so I know", "start": 11190.52, "end": 11197.52}, {"text": "how it is for them to cross that intersection and try to get to and from school during lunch and during class I", "start": 11197.52, "end": 11203.72}, {"text": "work in Miss Saga so just to get to my work which is close to square one I have", "start": 11203.72, "end": 11210.479}, {"text": "to time exactly when I'm going to leave home in order to be able to drive through that intersection which is the", "start": 11210.479, "end": 11217.04}, {"text": "only intersection that makes sense for me to go through to make it out of", "start": 11217.04, "end": 11222.239}, {"text": "Milton onto Trafalgar and on to either the 407 or lower Baseline with the new subdivision that's", "start": 11222.239, "end": 11230.12}, {"text": "that was proposed to go on to Dairy and the extra construction and the extra traffic that's going to be in that area", "start": 11230.12, "end": 11237.88}, {"text": "even that Avenue is um making it very very difficult for existing residents to", "start": 11237.88, "end": 11243.08}, {"text": "navigate and get out of town so in addition to traffic in addition to", "start": 11243.08, "end": 11249.399}, {"text": "dangers for the kids in addition to you know the noise and the dust and the", "start": 11249.399, "end": 11254.76}, {"text": "health and and even as a child I wouldn't want to be having six seven eight stories of people looking down on", "start": 11254.76, "end": 11262.52}, {"text": "me as I'm playing in an elementary school and Elementary School and uh", "start": 11262.52, "end": 11267.96}, {"text": "daycare that's going to be built on Louis and Lauren so if there's something that can be done to maybe change the", "start": 11267.96, "end": 11275.84}, {"text": "plan around change how the all these buildings are located and give the", "start": 11275.84, "end": 11281.52}, {"text": "opportunity for us to move around and get uh out of traffic because otherwise", "start": 11281.52, "end": 11287.68}, {"text": "like it's down to the minute that if I miss it I'll be stuck behind all the kids and all the parents trying to get", "start": 11287.68, "end": 11294.12}, {"text": "to school and I'll never make it to work so just for your consider", "start": 11294.12, "end": 11299.438}, {"text": "ation well thank thank you presentation any questions if not thank you anyone", "start": 11300.359, "end": 11305.6}, {"text": "else a first time speak yes sir at the", "start": 11305.6, "end": 11309.6}, {"text": "back thank you Mr chair my name is adala Montiel I've been a resident to Milton since", "start": 11319.16, "end": 11325.12}, {"text": "2004 uh when I came here I joined my my wife uh we were young professionals coming to this land U to Milton we were", "start": 11325.12, "end": 11331.16}, {"text": "formerly resident of metale so we made the transplant over and the important feature what really sold us Milton was", "start": 11331.16, "end": 11338.16}, {"text": "the family community was a lot of homes and I used to come out here in the 1990s I remember", "start": 11338.16, "end": 11344.8}, {"text": "when Dairy Road was a stretch of dark dark roadway in um and to actually see", "start": 11344.8, "end": 11351.6}, {"text": "the growth has been incredible the difficulty is for someone like us who've been about 20 years here", "start": 11351.6, "end": 11357.84}, {"text": "is actually seeing it starting to turn into more urban centers similar to Bramton similar to Hamilton similar to", "start": 11357.84, "end": 11364.8}, {"text": "Toronto some of the outskirts if that was the dream of us to come here in Milton 20 years ago to be around", "start": 11364.8, "end": 11370.92}, {"text": "highrises to be around density not having kids to be able to play in the Parks because of you know size you know", "start": 11370.92, "end": 11377.08}, {"text": "uh tall buildings or be careful with roadways or a lot of uh traffic foot traffic it would have been a different", "start": 11377.08, "end": 11382.84}, {"text": "choice for us to come here and I'm wondering that is a sort of implication for the city planners that I would", "start": 11382.84, "end": 11388.04}, {"text": "propose is saying the people who are native who already bought here and bought the dream of single dwelling", "start": 11388.04, "end": 11393.8}, {"text": "homes with multiple access points a lot of green space now slowly being taken away so to give the perspective of", "start": 11393.8, "end": 11401.359}, {"text": "safety is one but also think of the current situation of people here who in my case if I have too much density", "start": 11401.359, "end": 11407.68}, {"text": "around me I'll be the first to go and that's what begins to happen is that Our Generations will start to move out and", "start": 11407.68, "end": 11414.04}, {"text": "what comes back in people wanting to figure out more density more traffic so", "start": 11414.04, "end": 11419.64}, {"text": "before Milton becomes another city urban center to really consider these City plans this is just the tip of the", "start": 11419.64, "end": 11424.72}, {"text": "iceberg when this starts to happen starts to roll out everywhere else but I thank you for your time just a perspective question yeah thank you your", "start": 11424.72, "end": 11431.319}, {"text": "presentation any questions if not anyone else first time speakers anyone else if not sir I've got", "start": 11431.319, "end": 11439.2}, {"text": "you a second time sorry I just miss two points that I", "start": 11439.2, "end": 11446.8}, {"text": "want to just just uh um make aware so like I mentioned like uh like gentleman", "start": 11446.8, "end": 11454.279}, {"text": "mentioned that I I also moved here in 2012 and I was living at the Daran terine at that time my kids were small", "start": 11454.279, "end": 11462.84}, {"text": "and there are three parks that are on the walking distance so they were going", "start": 11462.84, "end": 11471.399}, {"text": "to the parks on their own like they're walking and they're choosing which park to go", "start": 11471.399, "end": 11477.76}, {"text": "so then I moved to the area near louland lauron and", "start": 11477.76, "end": 11485}, {"text": "uh in and the highway 25 so now the kid", "start": 11485, "end": 11490.8}, {"text": "cannot go there I have to I have to drive them to the park because the parks", "start": 11490.8, "end": 11496.16}, {"text": "are not close to that much close the idea of the parks should be that kids", "start": 11496.16, "end": 11501.72}, {"text": "can walk safely to the parks and come back rather than", "start": 11501.72, "end": 11509.04}, {"text": "like you have to it's 1 kilometer where you have to drive them and then then", "start": 11509.04, "end": 11514.68}, {"text": "they come back but this is exactly what is happening so this new area where they're putting this highrises in my", "start": 11514.68, "end": 11521.2}, {"text": "opinion this is this has to be a green space where the kids of the community", "start": 11521.2, "end": 11526.56}, {"text": "can safely play so that's a because there are four four schools just in this", "start": 11526.56, "end": 11534.6}, {"text": "close vcinity making this highrise is just like uh making kids in high", "start": 11534.6, "end": 11542.16}, {"text": "danger so and other so this is one of the point and the other point just I", "start": 11542.16, "end": 11547.76}, {"text": "want to uh know is that because if you have such high rises and already the", "start": 11547.76, "end": 11553.439}, {"text": "four uh schools in the area uh is this there impact that the the noise", "start": 11553.439, "end": 11558.92}, {"text": "pollution that can be part of that as well like because so much like if you're living in this area and in the when they", "start": 11558.92, "end": 11566.88}, {"text": "all the four schools kids are going coming and there have such a high rises", "start": 11566.88, "end": 11571.92}, {"text": "is there any impact is there any any kind of uh noise pollution um studies done for", "start": 11571.92, "end": 11579.439}, {"text": "that thank you sir maybe staff could clarify both issues in terms of parks access and noise", "start": 11579.439, "end": 11586.479}, {"text": "studies thank you and also one one more thing is that because the CN is also", "start": 11586.479, "end": 11591.96}, {"text": "coming right then you know that this when the CN comes this this will become", "start": 11591.96, "end": 11599.239}, {"text": "already the so much traffic right and then we are putting more traffic so I", "start": 11599.239, "end": 11604.68}, {"text": "don't know how this thing works out okay we're still working on that issue uh", "start": 11604.68, "end": 11610.88}, {"text": "step uh through the chair in the location map contained within the staff", "start": 11610.88, "end": 11616.64}, {"text": "report it shows the subject site and it also shows um proposed locations or or", "start": 11616.64, "end": 11625}, {"text": "existing park locations and I'd be happy to um speak to the residents and explain", "start": 11625, "end": 11630.16}, {"text": "that further following the meeting um in terms of noise studies um you know noise", "start": 11630.16, "end": 11635.6}, {"text": "studies are are required um in situations where you know you're AB", "start": 11635.6, "end": 11641.319}, {"text": "budding a highway where you're budding train tracks those sorts of things would would or or heavy industrial those sorts", "start": 11641.319, "end": 11648.92}, {"text": "of things would would um would require a noise study in this instance no um", "start": 11648.92, "end": 11654.279}, {"text": "General residential development would would not require any noise studies thank you thanks for the clarification", "start": 11654.279, "end": 11661.04}, {"text": "do you have a motion by councelor Jazz and set by councelor malbu that development service report DS 08724 be", "start": 11661.04, "end": 11667.72}, {"text": "received for information is there any questions or comments councelor Keli thanks Mr sh just want to make final", "start": 11667.72, "end": 11673.64}, {"text": "comments here just want to thank everybody that came today to speak and those to you know Advocate your concerns", "start": 11673.64, "end": 11679.56}, {"text": "here um the challenge that we have obviously here is that Bo secondary plan", "start": 11679.56, "end": 11685.16}, {"text": "is what you know when it was approved in 10 approve the designation of these lands to have this type of development", "start": 11685.16, "end": 11691.08}, {"text": "even be considered or be brought forward as it is today um obviously the reality in 2010 of what's on the ground that", "start": 11691.08, "end": 11697.08}, {"text": "that intersection or in that area is different than what it is right now um I would like to see you know staff work", "start": 11697.08, "end": 11703}, {"text": "with the developer which I'm sure they will um to come up with a a way to you know incorporate the feedback that we've", "start": 11703, "end": 11709.08}, {"text": "received here today so when this does come back at a later time for a technical report perhaps we're looking at a different type of application at", "start": 11709.08, "end": 11715.359}, {"text": "that time that can be assessed and viewed by the public and we can decide collectively what we do at that point", "start": 11715.359, "end": 11721.359}, {"text": "and again just so members of the public are aware this is just a report being received for information today there's", "start": 11721.359, "end": 11726.72}, {"text": "no final decision being made and that follow-up report will probably come next year that will probably the final report", "start": 11726.72, "end": 11733.239}, {"text": "for this matter in terms of what happens with this development um but on its face right now I would like to see an", "start": 11733.239, "end": 11740.04}, {"text": "opportunity to whether it's reducing building Heights or or coming up with a more uh sustainable plan as it may be to", "start": 11740.04, "end": 11746.16}, {"text": "you know hire and address the issues that been raised um otherwise I probably won't be supporting this when the time", "start": 11746.16, "end": 11752.8}, {"text": "comes unless we get those things addressed thank you canor", "start": 11752.8, "end": 11760.399}, {"text": "ali uh Mr chair I was just pointing at one member of the audience who wishes to speak but I think that that point is", "start": 11760.399, "end": 11766.399}, {"text": "over yeah sorry about that my apologies actually if if you do have any further", "start": 11766.399, "end": 11772.08}, {"text": "questions or comments please direct them to staff because we do have to get through the meeting here anyone else", "start": 11772.08, "end": 11777.64}, {"text": "want to speak on this item if not it's been moved and seconded", "start": 11777.64, "end": 11783.64}, {"text": "although okay I'll recognize you sir if you want to come", "start": 11783.64, "end": 11788.681}, {"text": "forward thank you Mr Mayor thank you Mr chair generally speaking on high-rise", "start": 11794.96, "end": 11800.88}, {"text": "development if we look at what Miss Saga has done you travel through Miss Saga you go to square one you see all those", "start": 11800.88, "end": 11806.319}, {"text": "highrises concentrated in one spot you drive by Air miltown Center and you see all those building in one spot um I", "start": 11806.319, "end": 11814.72}, {"text": "don't see that in Milton I see every vacan lot propping up with a high rise hophazardly everywhere as opposed to a", "start": 11814.72, "end": 11822.04}, {"text": "comprehensive building by our city Stafford to say this is where we're going to put all our Rises that's where", "start": 11822.04, "end": 11827.76}, {"text": "the shopping is going to be that's where the transit is going to be that's where the living space is going to be there", "start": 11827.76, "end": 11833.399}, {"text": "for the dweller of those highrises and perhaps that would an approach that Council should consider and our city", "start": 11833.399, "end": 11840}, {"text": "planner consider as opposed to have planed those building pretty much everywhere you drive on the road you see", "start": 11840, "end": 11845.239}, {"text": "a 20 story building you drive further down you see another one you drive on S Laur you see this one coming up it", "start": 11845.239, "end": 11851.88}, {"text": "doesn't make sense it makes more sense to have them concentrated in one spot close to uh britania road which is a", "start": 11851.88, "end": 11858.76}, {"text": "three lane and you'll have a lot less of what's going on here if that was done earlier on as opposed to do it at the", "start": 11858.76, "end": 11865.359}, {"text": "back end thank you thank you sir for your comments let me see oh councelor J no sorry I'm not", "start": 11865.359, "end": 11873.439}, {"text": "entertaining more speakers just the Council debate now any other counselors", "start": 11873.439, "end": 11878.6}, {"text": "any uh comments if not we have a motion here all those in", "start": 11878.6, "end": 11883.68}, {"text": "favor oh councelor Jazz you want to speak okay", "start": 11883.68, "end": 11889.399}, {"text": "so uh as much as I agree with the traffic around the LSL Ferguson Kennedy area and the whole nine yards of where", "start": 11896.88, "end": 11903.76}, {"text": "we put buildings and whatnot highrise low rise mid-rise I just want to make a point that our city staff does an", "start": 11903.76, "end": 11909.479}, {"text": "incredible job with identifying where they go ahead and put certain things so I just want to say that I do support the", "start": 11909.479, "end": 11916.279}, {"text": "idea of not putting certain things in places that are already high traffic but to say that staff doesn't consider where", "start": 11916.279, "end": 11923.359}, {"text": "they put specific things I disagree with that specific part of what you had to", "start": 11923.359, "end": 11928.399}, {"text": "say that was not the intent of my comment I just wanted want to clarify that thank you please the future", "start": 11928.399, "end": 11936.12}, {"text": "consider concentrating things together as opposed to scattering them pretty much everywhere it will make City staff", "start": 11936.12, "end": 11943.16}, {"text": "and planning a lot easier make the resident a lot happy and happy with the counselor I really appreciate it thanks", "start": 11943.16, "end": 11949.56}, {"text": "so much uh thank you everyone and just to let everybody know that staff are taking down all the comments and", "start": 11949.56, "end": 11955.88}, {"text": "questions if you do have any other concerns please register at the back there and also you can communicate with", "start": 11955.88, "end": 11961.68}, {"text": "staff any other Council comments questions regarding the motion if not", "start": 11961.68, "end": 11966.88}, {"text": "all those in favor motion's carried thank you everybody for their", "start": 11966.88, "end": 11972.92}, {"text": "patience we now move on to the presentations part we're having a final", "start": 11972.92, "end": 11978.239}, {"text": "report for the transportation master plan it's 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and gentlemen call", "start": 12302.16, "end": 12308.88}, {"text": "everybody back to order please", "start": 12308.88, "end": 12312.92}, {"text": "thank you I call on Diana Jonah and David twig to introduce the", "start": 12318.439, "end": 12323.84}, {"text": "transportation master", "start": 12323.84, "end": 12326.96}, {"text": "plan good evening Mr chair Mr Mayor and members of council um as the chair said", "start": 12334.76, "end": 12341}, {"text": "I'm Deana gaona I'm the director of infrastructure in the community services department for the town of Milton and on", "start": 12341, "end": 12347.64}, {"text": "behalf of the infrastructure and planning policy teams and our consultant team at wsp I'm pleased to be able to", "start": 12347.64, "end": 12353.76}, {"text": "introduce the transportation Master Plan update tonight the summary of recommendations coming out of the TMP um", "start": 12353.76, "end": 12361.279}, {"text": "update is included in staff report Comm 01424 and is presented tonight for", "start": 12361.279, "end": 12366.96}, {"text": "endorsement by Council staff are also seeking approval of the study update so the notice of study completion as", "start": 12366.96, "end": 12373.56}, {"text": "required through the municipal class EA process can be issued and that the 30-day public", "start": 12373.56, "end": 12379.319}, {"text": "review period um can commence the TMP update Builds on the first townwide TMP um which was", "start": 12379.319, "end": 12386.239}, {"text": "completed in 2018 and sets a long-term Transportation Vision within Milton", "start": 12386.239, "end": 12391.6}, {"text": "providing strategies to balance all modes of transportation it's a living document that will be updated every five years in", "start": 12391.6, "end": 12398.6}, {"text": "line with industry best practices to reflect changes in regulations standards and the evolving needs of the community", "start": 12398.6, "end": 12405.64}, {"text": "the TMP does not address site specific issues or detailed design and does not authorize any construction instead it's", "start": 12405.64, "end": 12413.6}, {"text": "a guiding document that informs Town policy decision-making and future Capital", "start": 12413.6, "end": 12419.16}, {"text": "needs it's important to note that Master plans are also created for specific secondary plan areas and while those", "start": 12419.16, "end": 12426.359}, {"text": "Master plans consider the townwide TMP recommendations they may justify PL", "start": 12426.359, "end": 12431.64}, {"text": "specific recommendations and policy that differ from the townwide TMP and the language in the TMP update identifies", "start": 12431.64, "end": 12439.279}, {"text": "this historically the TMP has been a joint um effort between the infrastructure group and the planning", "start": 12439.279, "end": 12445.8}, {"text": "policy group as Transportation Planning staff resided within the traffic section", "start": 12445.8, "end": 12451.08}, {"text": "of infrastructure however going forward um the transportation master plan study", "start": 12451.08, "end": 12456.279}, {"text": "updates will be led by the development services team as Transportation Planning staff now resides within planning policy", "start": 12456.279, "end": 12463.56}, {"text": "and development engineering as a result of a reorganization earlier this year a", "start": 12463.56, "end": 12469.239}, {"text": "senior Transportation planner position which was approved through the 2024 budget will also be filled through the", "start": 12469.239, "end": 12474.96}, {"text": "planning policy Division and it's anticipated that this position will coordinate the implementation of the TMP", "start": 12474.96, "end": 12481.479}, {"text": "update recommendations in cooperation with various groups across both development services and community", "start": 12481.479, "end": 12487.6}, {"text": "services and other Town divisions like Transit I'd like to take this time to", 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other good work that the town staff have done in terms of the official plan one time I was at a public meeting", "start": 12623.239, "end": 12630.72}, {"text": "and someone came up to me and said when is the bulldozer coming so it's important to people to understand the", "start": 12630.72, "end": 12636.319}, {"text": "bulldozer is not coming based on this plan this is the first step before uh a", "start": 12636.319, "end": 12642.479}, {"text": "a project would be be constructed after this it would likely go through the next", "start": 12642.479, "end": 12648.479}, {"text": "step of the EA process which would be like a Schedule C environmental assessment it then would go through", "start": 12648.479, "end": 12653.68}, {"text": "detailed design and only after then if the council has approved the budget for construction would something actually be", "start": 12653.68, "end": 12662.601}, {"text": "constructed we're at the end of our process for the transportation master plan we've uh 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they have to cross that now they're exposed to to Vehicles so there are tradeoffs when we do uh when we do", "start": 13090.319, "end": 13096.88}, {"text": "intersection improvements that would continue to be considered as these would move toward", "start": 13096.88, "end": 13103.72}, {"text": "implementation it's not only about the infrastructure we also need policy to help support the infrastructure and and", "start": 13103.72, "end": 13109.84}, {"text": "to leverage that infrastructure uh so we have different items", "start": 13109.84, "end": 13115.72}, {"text": "i'me excuse technical", "start": 13123.92, "end": 13128.72}, {"text": "difficulties we just need a minute here I think our screens go to bed at 10", "start": 13133.399, "end": 13140.199}, {"text": "o' yeah do you have any more slides to put", "start": 13141.319, "end": 13147.359}, {"text": "on or we can carry on here yeah if you could carry on I think", "start": 13147.359, "end": 13152.439}, {"text": "most of us could imagine what we're talking because it is in your documents", "start": 13152.439, "end": 13157.358}, {"text": "and the interest are getting out of here before midnight the I just was trying to to say", "start": 13158, "end": 13164.92}, {"text": "that there are also policies that are needed to support the infrastructure there were four different items on the", "start": 13164.92, "end": 13170.6}, {"text": "screen I just wanted to highlight uh road safety and parking as as the town", "start": 13170.6, "end": 13176.76}, {"text": "staff have have put forward a budget for 2025 to do a study on both of those items to to forward the thinking on road", "start": 13176.76, "end": 13184}, {"text": "safety int and also we we've heard tonight a lot of things about parking to", "start": 13184, "end": 13189.399}, {"text": "to do a more comprehensive study there's already a transitional plan on underway but to do a townwide and uh", "start": 13189.399, "end": 13196.279}, {"text": "comprehensive study those are two of the of the policies that would", "start": 13196.279, "end": 13202.439}, {"text": "be uh needed to help implement this plan I think after that slide the the last", "start": 13202.439, "end": 13208.12}, {"text": "one was just on our next steps which which is to finish our EA process we", "start": 13208.12, "end": 13213.239}, {"text": "would like you to endorse the draft report today it would then be issued for", "start": 13213.239, "end": 13218.68}, {"text": "a 30-day review given the time of year that it is it'll probably be more than 30 days and would go to say the end of", "start": 13218.68, "end": 13225.319}, {"text": "January at 2025 we would address any comments received at during that time", "start": 13225.319, "end": 13230.68}, {"text": "and then the town would move forward to implementation uh there is a the the recommendations are phased until like", "start": 13230.68, "end": 13237.84}, {"text": "2031 2041 2051 and the town will be moving forward uh to implementation of", "start": 13237.84, "end": 13243.76}, {"text": "both policy and infrastructure thank you very much for your attention and thank you and thank you everybody", "start": 13243.76, "end": 13249.439}, {"text": "for patience I understand we'll be back online in a few minutes according to staff if councelor Cher you had the", "start": 13249.439, "end": 13255.199}, {"text": "first question Mr", "start": 13255.199, "end": 13259.199}, {"text": "chairman when I was a kid living in Milton we used to roll up the streets at 6:30 uh 50 years later we used to roll", "start": 13268.279, "end": 13274.64}, {"text": "up the screens at Town Hall we've made progress anyway uh I had the opportunity", "start": 13274.64, "end": 13281.359}, {"text": "uh to sit down with uh Anita and d and and David last week to uh go through my", "start": 13281.359, "end": 13287.279}, {"text": "somewhat copious notes on this topic and uh I am supportive uh of the of the plan", "start": 13287.279, "end": 13293.84}, {"text": "and principle uh there's some things about it that I I think are are great", "start": 13293.84, "end": 13298.88}, {"text": "and I'll I'll Point those out as I did during my meeting and it has to do with", "start": 13298.88, "end": 13304.76}, {"text": "you know first first of all the the vision but I think you know how do you bring this to life and you talked about", "start": 13304.76, "end": 13310.76}, {"text": "it being a Liv or DET talked about it being a living document and you talk about a resource plan you talk you've", "start": 13310.76, "end": 13316.76}, {"text": "got a budget all these things that uh maintenance all these things that uh", "start": 13316.76, "end": 13322.6}, {"text": "that make a document like this uh be a real thing and that's really important it's it's a critical part of uh of our", "start": 13322.6, "end": 13329.64}, {"text": "infrastructure discussion moving forward um I also pointed out some watch outs to", "start": 13329.64, "end": 13335.279}, {"text": "them and I'm not going to review that meeting it went for an hour and a half um but there are some key things and I", "start": 13335.279, "end": 13344}, {"text": "two of them are are not noted in the document but I suspect there's been conversation and one is the fact that", "start": 13344, "end": 13350.84}, {"text": "the train interchange at 401 is opening on November of 2026 and that's going to have a significant impact on on North", "start": 13350.84, "end": 13358.52}, {"text": "South uh vehicular traffic commercial traffic as well uh as well as east west", "start": 13358.52, "end": 13365.72}, {"text": "it's going to take pressure hopefully off of James Parkway and and Highway 25 or Regional Road 25 going through town", "start": 13365.72, "end": 13372.84}, {"text": "the second thing is the CN inter modal yard if it's approved so that's not", "start": 13372.84, "end": 13378.479}, {"text": "really contemplated either and I think it needs to be uh because it's going to change the discussion that you have in", "start": 13378.479, "end": 13385}, {"text": "the document around uh your north south uh major arterials and some of them are", "start": 13385, "end": 13390.439}, {"text": "Regional and some of them are are local so I would you know my", "start": 13390.439, "end": 13395.88}, {"text": "my counsel would be that you keep that in mind because it's going to be significant at some point and then I", "start": 13395.88, "end": 13402.279}, {"text": "just had a couple other very brief notes uh HOV lane on Ontario Street", "start": 13402.279, "end": 13409.8}, {"text": "South uh not really excited about that idea uh whether we end up with CN", "start": 13409.8, "end": 13417.88}, {"text": "um it it still is a in arguably our busiest major", "start": 13417.88, "end": 13423.199}, {"text": "arterial and it's not likely to change uh and so I I have a bit of a", "start": 13423.199, "end": 13429.92}, {"text": "watch out on that I think that its current purpose should be its purpose down the road um it was at one time a", "start": 13429.92, "end": 13437.359}, {"text": "major bypass to this community from 401 to Oakville and Burlington on M the qw and it still serves that purpose and so", "start": 13437.359, "end": 13445.76}, {"text": "uh I'm not sure that that's the right answer uh you talk about chg emissions", "start": 13445.76, "end": 13452.96}, {"text": "as I said to those who attended the meeting I asked the region for uh a", "start": 13452.96, "end": 13458.92}, {"text": "study when they were doing their their Regional official plan uh you need you", "start": 13458.92, "end": 13464.68}, {"text": "need you need a foundation to be to to start with and we don't have a foundation we don't we don't understand where we are in terms of that science", "start": 13464.68, "end": 13472.319}, {"text": "and and what our emissions are today so I think if if we're going to talk about that uh we think we need to do some", "start": 13472.319, 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from now those are my", "start": 13515.68, "end": 13523.72}, {"text": "comments thank you Brett did you want to respond to any of", "start": 13523.72, "end": 13529.358}, {"text": "that uh through you chair to to the counselor um so as we do the 2051", "start": 13532.319, "end": 13538.96}, {"text": "forecast we are using the Halton Region's uh Transportation model which", "start": 13538.96, "end": 13545.479}, {"text": "does include the train interchange uh being being in place so that has been", "start": 13545.479, "end": 13552.279}, {"text": "considered as part of the the long range planning I wanted to", "start": 13552.279, "end": 13558.08}, {"text": "say um regarding CN I would refer to commissioner uh Hogan on that and I", "start": 13558.08, "end": 13565.319}, {"text": "should have had my pen here with me and I'm trying to remember all of the comments oh excuse me through you uh Mr", "start": 13565.319, "end": 13572.239}, {"text": "chair for the HOV lane once again it's not set in 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13678.761}, {"text": "Milton I think everybody here would know that it's it's not possible to expand on", "start": 13679, "end": 13685.479}, {"text": "cherot Street to six Lanes uh you just couldn't do it for a whole bunch of of", "start": 13685.479, "end": 13691.56}, {"text": "uh you know expropriation but also just physical reasons", "start": 13691.56, "end": 13697.159}, {"text": "um just one other thing Mr chairman so in the document with my you know my", "start": 13697.159, "end": 13704.92}, {"text": "Council to to staff was um there was some insures in there as opposed to", "start": 13704.92, "end": 13710.64}, {"text": "maybe saying something that is a little bit lighter so for example we seem to be pretty strong on on our relationship", "start": 13710.64, "end": 13717.92}, {"text": "with uh with Metro links and what we're going to do with Metro links and I think", "start": 13717.92, "end": 13723.319}, {"text": "that we've already learned that lesson and you know I think uh 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13765.359}, {"text": "had in mind when you authored it and uh and what you've seen with other", "start": 13765.359, "end": 13771.84}, {"text": "municipalities that you provide your services to uh through the through the chair to", "start": 13771.84, "end": 13777.439}, {"text": "the counselor on this what we'd call sometimes micr Mobility or uh some of", "start": 13777.439, "end": 13783.08}, {"text": "these items if it's like a bike share or different services like that um", "start": 13783.08, "end": 13788.439}, {"text": "sometimes it's like if if not the town then who do we have a public a private entity that's willing to come in if you", "start": 13788.439, "end": 13795.56}, {"text": "think of the uh City of Toronto they the the City branch of them run the parking", "start": 13795.56, "end": 13802.72}, {"text": "authority runs the The Bike Share so they they don't have it for a thirdparty", "start": 13802.72, "end": 13807.76}, {"text": "private company uh in Hamilton they do have some 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so that there will be the", "start": 13847.92, "end": 13854.319}, {"text": "demand for that service but we see it as part of the of uh of the future of Milton as we as we progress to that year", "start": 13854.319, "end": 13862.12}, {"text": "2051 uh with this development that's that's forecast anything F last my last", "start": 13862.12, "end": 13868.88}, {"text": "question comment um so you've got a a great graphic in the report", "start": 13868.88, "end": 13875.12}, {"text": "uh it's you know it's it shows that you know 93% of miltonian use use", "start": 13875.12, "end": 13881}, {"text": "Automobiles and uh my point with with staff was uh until we fix that 78", "start": 13881, "end": 13888.12}, {"text": "billion dollar problem halfway between here and Union Station with go TR and", "start": 13888.12, "end": 13893.239}, {"text": "infrastructure that number is not going to change very quickly because to get to", "start": 13893.239, "end": 13900.199}, {"text": "you know some of the solutions that have that have been identified like you know two-way all day uh uh GO train service", "start": 13900.199, "end": 13908.72}, {"text": "you've got to fix that infrastructure problem and we kind of settled on well why don't we think about possibly having", "start": 13908.72, "end": 13915.76}, {"text": "acknowledgements somewhere in the document that that you know provides a sense of of um a plan uh you know some", "start": 13915.76, "end": 13925.6}, {"text": "realities of that plan and that being one of them because we're not driving", "start": 13925.6, "end": 13931}, {"text": "that that bus it's being driven from Queens Park and and it's a huge nut to", "start": 13931, "end": 13936.52}, {"text": "crack and until we figure that out you know our go TR our current GO train", "start": 13936.52, "end": 13941.96}, {"text": "Services it is what it is um so I hope that you know you're", "start": 13941.96, "end": 13947.84}, {"text": "you're having some of those discussions as we move forward through through this phase and and perhaps in the next plan", "start": 13947.84, "end": 13954.64}, {"text": "in five years there's there's some additional Reflections and acknowledgements but I I appreciate", "start": 13954.64, "end": 13961}, {"text": "that right did you want to respond uh through the the chair to the counselor", "start": 13961, "end": 13967.96}, {"text": "um we do see the go service a as an essential part of the future of Milton", "start": 13967.96, "end": 13973.84}, {"text": "it is a big ticket item from a financial cost and of course uh municipalities", "start": 13973.84, "end": 13979.239}, {"text": "across the the the go network if they don't have go service they want it if they do have it they want more so I", "start": 13979.239, "end": 13986.88}, {"text": "would encourage this Council to continue to advocate for for Milton um you know", "start": 13986.88, "end": 13993.199}, {"text": "Milton used to be one of the fastest growing Comm the fast the fastest growing in Canada I believe it still", "start": 13993.199, "end": 13998.6}, {"text": "must be one of the fastest uh so I think people need to recognize that and we need to provide options to to automobile", "start": 13998.6, "end": 14006.319}, {"text": "travel or else we're going to continue to have these conversations that we've had earlier", "start": 14006.319, "end": 14011.52}, {"text": "today um so certainly we can work on the language and and it's not necessarily", "start": 14011.52, "end": 14018.04}, {"text": "for us to say metr links you must do this but but we do see it as part of of", "start": 14018.04, "end": 14023.52}, {"text": "the long-term solution and even have gone so far as to say there should be another station at at DIY and troger um", "start": 14023.52, "end": 14030.479}, {"text": "as part of the Agron uh secondary plan so we do uh we can work on the on", "start": 14030.479, "end": 14037.399}, {"text": "the language but we do think that's an important part of the overall puzzle so to speak of Transportation into the", "start": 14037.399, "end": 14044.359}, {"text": "future all right thank you anything further councelor cheler no councelor ja thank you uh Mr chair through you the", "start": 14044.359, "end": 14051.239}, {"text": "time is 10:26 so I'm going to keep this question real brief or real brief response as you've heard many of our", "start": 14051.239, "end": 14056.52}, {"text": "delegations tonight residents are very interested in traffic flow and volume I and my Council colleagues regularly hear", "start": 14056.52, "end": 14062.8}, {"text": "from residents that an easy solution to improving traffic flow would be adding right-hand turns can addition of", "start": 14062.8, "end": 14069.56}, {"text": "right-hand turns uh and how they might impact uh other modes of transportation", "start": 14069.56, "end": 14074.8}, {"text": "the considerations through the chair to the councelor so we typically would would", "start": 14074.8, "end": 14080.68}, {"text": "think about a right turn lane if uh if we had 300 right turns in an hour that's kind of a threshold 300 right turning", "start": 14080.68, "end": 14087.88}, {"text": "vehicles um we also are using different Transportation analysis software to see", "start": 14087.88, "end": 14093.479}, {"text": "if that would benefit the vehicular flow but but it's not so simple as just", "start": 14093.479, "end": 14098.84}, {"text": "adding a right turn lane because as I had mentioned we're adding another three and a half meters of pavement that a", "start": 14098.84, "end": 14105.64}, {"text": "pedestrian has to cross so you need to have your your walk signal another 3 and a half seconds longer which then has", "start": 14105.64, "end": 14112.319}, {"text": "like a domino effect on all of the different movements we also have to make sure that there's the right of way and", "start": 14112.319, "end": 14118.12}, {"text": "even if there is a right of way do we have to relocate any utilities that are presently in that right of way that", "start": 14118.12, "end": 14124.08}, {"text": "would need to move to accommodate a right turn so it's it's really on a a", "start": 14124.08, "end": 14130.12}, {"text": "intersection by intersection basis and there are these tradeoffs um I we've heard a lot about a", "start": 14130.12, "end": 14137.08}, {"text": "vehicular traffic but we also heard a lot about safety and and children Crossing and so that's", "start": 14137.08, "end": 14144.399}, {"text": "I I I worked for a civil engineer once who told me Brett traffic engineering is not a science it's an art and and that", "start": 14144.399, "end": 14152.279}, {"text": "just kind of shows like the tradeoffs of yes we can add a right turn lane to facilitate vehicular movement but it", "start": 14152.279, "end": 14159.56}, {"text": "sometimes comes at the expense of pedestrians and and then like when you have that right turn and your right turn", "start": 14159.56, "end": 14165.8}, {"text": "on red and you're a pedestrian you're trying to figure out if they're going to go or if they're not so it it becomes a", "start": 14165.8, "end": 14171.84}, {"text": "little bit more complex counselor but uh certainly we it's it is a solution thank", "start": 14171.84, "end": 14177.88}, {"text": "you Brett councelor Ali thank you Mr chair through you thank", "start": 14177.88, "end": 14183.359}, {"text": "you for your presentation this is a long time coming Transit uh master plan we", "start": 14183.359, "end": 14188.84}, {"text": "have been waiting for it Transportation I I apologize um I had a lot of", "start": 14188.84, "end": 14195.359}, {"text": "questions a lot of them have been already asked and answered sufficiently by you so I'm not going to repeat them", "start": 14195.359, "end": 14200.96}, {"text": "um my one of my questions was um I do see the mention of der in brania traler", "start": 14200.96, "end": 14207.8}, {"text": "train a lot of the regional roads um in your recommendations and my question was", "start": 14207.8, "end": 14213.319}, {"text": "going to be um sometimes in fact many times in my experience had a lot of", "start": 14213.319, "end": 14219.319}, {"text": "challenges trying to get that coveted left", "start": 14219.319, "end": 14224.399}, {"text": "turn uh lane or the right turn lane on these Regional roads um and and I", "start": 14224.399, "end": 14230.6}, {"text": "foresee that as being a big challenge to your recommendations that's just a comment I don't know what else uh you", "start": 14230.6, "end": 14236.76}, {"text": "could do I think uh you working with them is is a good sign but I can tell", "start": 14236.76, "end": 14241.92}, {"text": "you from experience that is has been a challenge historical challenge um I know", "start": 14241.92, "end": 14247.479}, {"text": "that you mentioned one of your recommendations is to separate traffic and parking", "start": 14247.479, "end": 14252.88}, {"text": "bylaws if I'm not wrong could you further elaborate that", "start": 14252.88, "end": 14259.479}, {"text": "please uh through the chair if I may call upon the staff to help with that response please", "start": 14259.479, "end": 14265.96}, {"text": "sure thanks um yeah through you Mr chair to council Ali so", "start": 14265.96, "end": 14272.64}, {"text": "um right now I wish Heidi was here because she could speak to it um really well but um right now there's something", "start": 14272.64, "end": 14279.279}, {"text": "called the uniform traffic bylaw and that's was when the region was um you", "start": 14279.279, "end": 14287.04}, {"text": "know in charge of all things in Milton let's say and so along the way we've", "start": 14287.04, "end": 14292.68}, {"text": "been amending this bylaw in this bylaw there's lots of changes that have happened over the years and um so it", "start": 14292.68, "end": 14301.479}, {"text": "it's something that through consultation internally through internal 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Downer", "start": 14347.72, "end": 14353.56}, {"text": "here but you know where I'm going with this how how do we plan to include all", "start": 14353.56, "end": 14360.56}, {"text": "of these costings in our future budgets considering the tight pressures", "start": 14360.56, "end": 14365.8}, {"text": "we face as it is today and every budget is a big challenge of balancing needs", "start": 14365.8, "end": 14371.88}, {"text": "versus keeping taxes low or the lowest in the GTA um how do we what what do you", "start": 14371.88, "end": 14379.159}, {"text": "foresee uh how achievable are these goals through the chair um when it comes", "start": 14379.159, "end": 14386.479}, {"text": "to the costing in the report there are there are different uh number of variety of costs so firstly on the capital side", "start": 14386.479, "end": 14393.72}, {"text": "you know looking at how many are growth related and certainly the initial cost development charges are a big component of that to your point 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"specific details working with the the experts as to you know are there things that need to change in in the way we", "start": 14436.08, "end": 14441.88}, {"text": "budget for those that are different than what would do today um and if it was material we would just then work through", "start": 14441.88, "end": 14448.64}, {"text": "Council to identify the the right timing and and implementation but again a lot of the plan has been considered", "start": 14448.64, "end": 14455.199}, {"text": "historically in things like DC studies and and our our budgets so with a new study we look for you know where we have", "start": 14455.199, "end": 14461.92}, {"text": "to make further refinements and you know the annual budget process is the main venue for that thank you so what I'm", "start": 14461.92, "end": 14468.56}, {"text": "understanding is that you would classify them as tcas um and then you would put put them", "start": 14468.56, "end": 14474.199}, {"text": "into work in progress accounting yes one of the the uh funding", "start": 14474.199, "end": 14480.76}, {"text": "principles that we've adopted is that when we when we add the new infrastructure we do uh put some funding", "start": 14480.76, "end": 14486.52}, {"text": "aside for you know future replacement and so they really go hand in hand now from a funding", "start": 14486.52, "end": 14492.239}, {"text": "perspective thank you um considering the fact that we gave gave", "start": 14492.239, "end": 14498.439}, {"text": "ourselves three big xes on trying to meet our you know bud", "start": 14498.439, "end": 14504.479}, {"text": "forecast um I just want to highlight the fact that this could be a continued", "start": 14504.479, "end": 14510.64}, {"text": "pressure moving forward in our budgets and that Council should be prepared for it thank", "start": 14510.64, "end": 14516.319}, {"text": "you thank you councilor Tessa jckson you're passing okay anyone else", "start": 14516.319, "end": 14522.92}, {"text": "any questions comments thank you Brett for your presentation and staff for all the work", "start": 14522.92, "end": 14528.92}, {"text": "as just noted here that we've had a lot of work ahead of us including tonight", "start": 14528.92, "end": 14534.279}, {"text": "and we have a staff report moved by councelor malbu second by councelor CH I'm not going to read out the whole thing any questions or comments to the", "start": 14534.279, "end": 14540.96}, {"text": "motion if not all those in favor motions carried moving right along to items of", "start": 14540.96, "end": 14548.279}, {"text": "consideration 9.1 the community funds I understand we have some Del conflicts", "start": 14548.279, "end": 14554.64}, {"text": "here and we have no staff presentation but staff are available is there any questions of Staff of the Community", "start": 14554.64, "end": 14560.96}, {"text": "Fund if not okay we have the first motion here is that the move by councel Malo", "start": 14560.96, "end": 14568}, {"text": "second by councel CH that Milton Community Fund applications number 1 to 47 save and accept number 34 containing", "start": 14568, "end": 14574.76}, {"text": "Schedule C be approved and the mayor and clerk be authorized to execu any agreements associated with the approved", "start": 14574.76, "end": 14580.08}, {"text": "recommendations containing in staff report any questions the motion if not this is the one that", "start": 14580.08, "end": 14586.279}, {"text": "councelor Marshall has a conflict with all those in favor motions", "start": 14586.279, "end": 14592.12}, {"text": "carried and this is the one at Community Fund application number 34 contained in", "start": 14592.12, "end": 14597.64}, {"text": "section Schedule C be approved this is a motion with councilor Ali has a conflict", "start": 14597.64, "end": 14602.8}, {"text": "any questions if not all those in favor motions", "start": 14602.8, "end": 14607.96}, {"text": "carried and we're moving item 9.2 technical report any questions regarding", "start": 14608.68, "end": 14615.399}, {"text": "this report staff are available for questions if not we have one moved by councelor Mal second by councelor chor", "start": 14615.399, "end": 14621.84}, {"text": "I'm not going to read the whole thing any any questions if not all those in favor actions", "start": 14621.84, "end": 14628.159}, {"text": "carried I aim to get you out of here by 11:00 and I'm definitely not reading", "start": 14628.159, "end": 14635.12}, {"text": "this one item 9.3 the purchasing report uh is there any questions of the", "start": 14635.12, "end": 14640.159}, {"text": "purchasing report if not forever hold your tongue move by councelor malos and second by", "start": 14640.159, "end": 14646.68}, {"text": "councelor Cher that staff report be approved any questions if not all those", "start": 14646.68, "end": 14652.159}, {"text": "in favor motions carried congratulations", "start": 14652.159, "end": 14657.76}, {"text": "Clen okay and I'm not going to read this one we have a motion to consideration", "start": 14661.8, "end": 14667.12}, {"text": "request for staff report regarding roundabouts councelor Keli uh thanks Mr chair and I'll keep this brief I know", "start": 14667.12, "end": 14673.76}, {"text": "Council and everybody here pretty much had a lengthy discussion about this and just want to thank Council for uh all of", "start": 14673.76, "end": 14679.72}, {"text": "the feedback that was provided on this resolution and thank staff as well for all of their meeting and phone calls and", "start": 14679.72, "end": 14685.08}, {"text": "guidance as it pertains to this as well uh I mentioned it on previous occasion as well you know roundabouts near", "start": 14685.08, "end": 14692.92}, {"text": "schools particularly in W 3 we have two of them one's at Lou St lant and Kennedy Circle where the new s CER school is and", "start": 14692.92, "end": 14700.199}, {"text": "we have another near St Veronica school at Whitlock AV and um 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mentioned Mr chair is a staff report requesting that analysis to be done so", "start": 14740.399, "end": 14747.12}, {"text": "that way if we end up in a future situation where we're considering where we're putting roundabouts this report can potentially influence whether we do", "start": 14747.12, "end": 14753.64}, {"text": "that or not or we get a proactive sense of what we can Implement to prevent any near misses collisions or any other", "start": 14753.64, "end": 14759.88}, {"text": "safety concerns that may arise if a similar situation happens in another area uh having said that I'm open to any", "start": 14759.88, "end": 14766.68}, {"text": "questions and I request that my colleagues support this important resolution thank you okay anyone else", "start": 14766.68, "end": 14772.279}, {"text": "any questions or comments mayor CR and Council Al just uh thank", "start": 14772.279, "end": 14778.56}, {"text": "you Mr chair on the uh surface it would appear that you know something like this", "start": 14778.56, "end": 14783.64}, {"text": "is very harmless but there's a there's definitely a cost to it as well and the", "start": 14783.64, "end": 14790.04}, {"text": "uh CEO and I have had uh conversation about and I guess you could refer to the", "start": 14790.04, "end": 14795.439}, {"text": "next one uh the same uh I'm not exactly sure if we're just talking about safety", "start": 14795.439, "end": 14801.88}, {"text": "and I heard it tonight maybe doing away with roundabouts uh there tonight and", "start": 14801.88, "end": 14807.68}, {"text": "I'm not sure whether that's a reasonable option or not uh you know but having", "start": 14807.68, "end": 14814.04}, {"text": "it's my understanding having crossing guards at roundabouts is something new and I'm not sure if it's any place else", "start": 14814.04, "end": 14822.04}, {"text": "but uh I know the CEO has concerns about it and and I've not gotten into it in", "start": 14822.04, "end": 14827.359}, {"text": "any depth a toll but uh I would suggest having a brief look", "start": 14827.359, "end": 14834.319}, {"text": "at it and I'm not suggesting going out hiring a consultant and I know councelor", "start": 14834.319, "end": 14839.8}, {"text": "cul is not suggesting that as well but there's a time element with staff", "start": 14839.8, "end": 14844.96}, {"text": "involved too and they could wind up in a very you know awkward position depending", "start": 14844.96, "end": 14850.04}, {"text": "on what they may or may not come back with so SE might want toh just you know", "start": 14850.04, "end": 14856.52}, {"text": "it's not a popular thing to you know vote against something this and I'm not going to but I just want to make Council", "start": 14856.52, "end": 14862.76}, {"text": "where be careful what you asked for you might get it and we might not be happy", "start": 14862.76, "end": 14867.84}, {"text": "with it so through you Mr Shar to say see you yeah happy to make a comment my", "start": 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{"text": "stories which are very relevant um as for the fact that roundabouts should be", "start": 14966.04, "end": 14971.399}, {"text": "replaced by signalized intersections I invite the community to come and visit uh Louis St L and Broner section and", "start": 14971.399, "end": 14978.92}, {"text": "check out at the school drop off andp times at St Francis Xavier that is a", "start": 14978.92, "end": 14984.08}, {"text": "situation we've been trying to deal with about six years since I've been on Council and I do not think replacing a", "start": 14984.08, "end": 14990.279}, {"text": "roundabout with a with a signalized intersection would make a difference we have always also involved a lot of um", "start": 14990.279, "end": 14997}, {"text": "Halton police presence there um giving out $50 jaywalking tickets to high schoolers unfortunately the situation is", "start": 14997, "end": 15004.64}, {"text": "uh just at this point considered unmitigable so U just trying to be realistic here thanks thank you", "start": 15004.64, "end": 15011.8}, {"text": "councelor Marshall I just have a question um hoping staff might be able to chime in as to whether", "start": 15011.8, "end": 15018.72}, {"text": "an initial step in this before you know if if this is approved staff delve into", "start": 15018.72, "end": 15023.88}, {"text": "it about whether or not there's any municipalities maybe you know nationally maybe even in other countries that are", "start": 15023.88, "end": 15030.92}, {"text": "actually using roundabouts um in areas and basically has this work already been done somewhere um that has a similar", "start": 15030.92, "end": 15039.04}, {"text": "landscape so instead of investing all time and effort um we could at least", "start": 15039.04, "end": 15045.88}, {"text": "start with a preliminary is this work already done staff could", "start": 15045.88, "end": 15052.399}, {"text": "respond uh thank you through the chair um at this time we're not aware of anything that we can go back to and", "start": 15052.399, "end": 15058.279}, {"text": "definitively point to to say that's what we want to go back to look at or replicate we will need to do some", "start": 15058.279, "end": 15063.439}, {"text": "research and and do a scan you know staff are involved with the Ontario traffic Council um sit on some different", "start": 15063.439, "end": 15069.96}, {"text": "boards nationally and whatnot we'll look we'll look as close to home as we can first and then spread out from there and", "start": 15069.96, "end": 15075.56}, {"text": "see what we can find anything further no councilor KY yes thanks Mr chair just wanted I forgot", "start": 15075.56, "end": 15082.04}, {"text": "to mention the initial remarks I know it came in last minute not sure if everybody's had a chance to read it but uh one of the written delegation", "start": 15082.04, "end": 15087.92}, {"text": "submitted tonight um regarding this particular resolution is from um the school council representing the entire", "start": 15087.92, "end": 15094.6}, {"text": "parent Council there in the school from St Veronica Catholic Elementary School in W 3 where there is that one", "start": 15094.6, "end": 15100.96}, {"text": "roundabout there and then there's another Elementary School in between on the other side so the round's in between two elementary schools um both of them", "start": 15100.96, "end": 15108.76}, {"text": "are new elementary schools to the word 3 Community as well uh and over here I just want to highlight one item that", "start": 15108.76, "end": 15114.92}, {"text": "they mentioned here just going to quote here uh the delegate mentions they pose unique risks for pedestrians especially", "start": 15114.92, "end": 15121.199}, {"text": "young children due to difficulty in ensuring Vehicles yield appropriately that's from the delegation that's", "start": 15121.199, "end": 15128}, {"text": "representing the entire School community at that one particular elementary school so just 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that's why there aren't any anywhere else with crossing guards the other", "start": 15172.64, "end": 15178.439}, {"text": "concern I have is whether we should not be having this discussion in camera and", "start": 15178.439, "end": 15184.279}, {"text": "I would ask staff to check with our legal staff okay to get a legal opinion", "start": 15184.279, "end": 15189.8}, {"text": "on what is being proposed here that's all I have thank", "start": 15189.8, "end": 15195.68}, {"text": "you well I'll take that our staff advisement that to come back with us CEO do you have any concerns on this", "start": 15196.8, "end": 15204.199}, {"text": "item Thinking Out Loud here we did have an in camera with the lawyer and um", "start": 15204.199, "end": 15209.88}, {"text": "there was discussion given in camera so I mean and I don't really want to go any", "start": 15209.88, "end": 15216}, {"text": "farther than that but but what I would say is that those of you that have been around this table for a long 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15259.88, "end": 15266.399}, {"text": "that road that is uh functioning the way it's supposed to be that doesn't mean we can't have a look at it doesn't mean we", "start": 15266.399, "end": 15272.84}, {"text": "can't do our research on it I would just be careful as to what we might expect", "start": 15272.84, "end": 15278.199}, {"text": "back in terms of uh a solution because those that have seen this challenge is is I see it in many cases in many forms", "start": 15278.199, "end": 15286.52}, {"text": "whether it be signalized intersections crosswalks traffic circles all the", "start": 15286.52, "end": 15292.199}, {"text": "variety of things that are out there so if Council wishes we're happy to undertake the research we'll we'll be", "start": 15292.199, "end": 15297.88}, {"text": "comprehensive in what we can find um but but there will be some questions left", "start": 15297.88, "end": 15303.64}, {"text": "that will need to be answered thank you councelor Malu anything further okay anyone else", "start": 15303.64, "end": 15310.88}, {"text": "anything on this item we have the motion for you just to give my two cents worth", "start": 15310.88, "end": 15315.92}, {"text": "regarding high schools it's uh councelor Cher and mayor cran Milton District High School has similar challenges over the", "start": 15315.92, "end": 15322.279}, {"text": "years even when I was there which was a long time ago uh so we have a motion and", "start": 15322.279, "end": 15328.199}, {"text": "and uh does anyone need any clarification some good points raised all those in favor motions carried Mr", "start": 15328.199, "end": 15335.92}, {"text": "chair you always want to the intersection across who didn't you I usually rode the school bus", "start": 15335.92, "end": 15344.92}, {"text": "okay on to item 9.5 there has been one change here the uh Clause has been added", "start": 15351.08, "end": 15357.359}, {"text": "the resolution be circulated to local municipalities in Halton region so that's been added councelor Keli did you", "start": 15357.359, "end": 15364.04}, {"text": "want to add anything further yep thanks Mr chair um this resolution is also", "start": 15364.04, "end": 15369.439}, {"text": "asking for a staff report and it stems essentially from you know Community interest and concern as it", "start": 15369.439, "end": 15375.64}, {"text": "pertains to you know the overwhelming demand for access to more opportunities for indoor gym space um our programs", "start": 15375.64, "end": 15382.84}, {"text": "from my understanding with speaking to our Recreation team here at the town is that uh our town offered programs in", "start": 15382.84, "end": 15388.04}, {"text": "indoor gyms fill up within minutes after postings open up and that's like three days prior to the actual when the", "start": 15388.04, "end": 15394.119}, {"text": "booking opens up so there is a heavy demand for you know access to more gym space uh we also know that our town gyms", "start": 15394.119, "end": 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potential School gyms if there is a cost barrier that's in place or any other barriers", "start": 15437.08, "end": 15442.8}, {"text": "and come back to council with some recommendations as it pertains to what we can do to offer residents the maximum", "start": 15442.8, "end": 15449.279}, {"text": "ability to access space in our community um because a gym can be used for multiple Sports pickle ball which we", "start": 15449.279, "end": 15455.199}, {"text": "know is in high demand badminton and other sports that can be played in Endor gym um I'll leave it at that and if", "start": 15455.199, "end": 15461.88}, {"text": "there's any discussion or questions we'll go from there thanks thank you councelor Ellie is a seconder thank you", "start": 15461.88, "end": 15468.319}, {"text": "Mr chair um I think councilor Ki for asking me to Second this but I I am also", "start": 15468.319, "end": 15474}, {"text": "very aware of the of the situation and the realities we face around this issue I'm aware that a big part of this", "start": 15474, "end": 15481.319}, {"text": "discussion is the school board and the trustees and so um I understand that", "start": 15481.319, "end": 15487.159}, {"text": "this is just staff Direction which is why I'm happy to Second it uh but I do know that there are challenges is", "start": 15487.159, "end": 15493}, {"text": "speaking to the school board which is something that I know my colleagues on the table have experienced themselves", "start": 15493, "end": 15499.56}, {"text": "and cost if cost is a barrier uh for for the community um I I do believe there are", "start": 15499.56, "end": 15506.6}, {"text": "opportunities with the school board to address those costs um as opposed to town subsidizing anything uh but having", "start": 15506.6, "end": 15515.08}, {"text": "said that I will wait to see what what staff come back with and uh we'll take it from there thank you yeah counc", "start": 15515.08, "end": 15522.119}, {"text": "tesser jks yeah actually on that point Mr chair with respect to the school boards I'm", "start": 15522.119, "end": 15527.399}, {"text": "wondering if is this asking for staff report a little premature like should we", "start": 15527.399, "end": 15532.479}, {"text": "be directing staff to start a discussion with the school boards first to see if there's even a possibility or potential", "start": 15532.479, "end": 15539.72}, {"text": "for actually needing a report I'm not sure if we're putting the horse before the cart Andy staff can answer that", "start": 15539.72, "end": 15547.359}, {"text": "question um through you Mr chair we'll be looking at a lot of these items through our our Recreation Master Plan", "start": 15547.359, "end": 15554}, {"text": "update that we'll be doing later in 2025 um and as part of that we will also", "start": 15554, "end": 15559.159}, {"text": "be Consulting with the school boards and you know looking to determine what what", "start": 15559.159, "end": 15564.279}, {"text": "the community demands and needs are and what spaces available and and what opportunities there there are and where", "start": 15564.279, "end": 15570.399}, {"text": "we currently have opportunities is there any chance that we can look to make any", "start": 15570.399, "end": 15575.72}, {"text": "enhancements and whatnot with the school so um we we do have a little bit of work to", "start": 15575.72, "end": 15581.76}, {"text": "do there that's going to take a little bit of time to get through so does that mean this work is", "start": 15581.76, "end": 15588.52}, {"text": "already kind of planned to be undertaken in that Recreation master plan in", "start": 15588.52, "end": 15595.08}, {"text": "2025 correct we would be looking at all of our programs and services what spaces do we have what space do we need what do", "start": 15595.08, "end": 15601.64}, {"text": "we need to build is there anything that we need to repurpose and whatnot that would all be included as part of our 2025 master", "start": 15601.64, "end": 15607.92}, {"text": "plan Mr chair so is is this report beneficial like it would be used in that plan or is it going to be redundant to", "start": 15607.92, "end": 15614.319}, {"text": "the work you will be undertaking in that plan uh through the chair I believe that", "start": 15614.319, "end": 15621.319}, {"text": "this is going to be what we have here is a little bit of a difference on timing I think the work that we're going to do on", "start": 15621.319, "end": 15626.479}, {"text": "the master plan is most likely going to take a large portion of 2025 and I think the intention here with", "start": 15626.479, "end": 15632.8}, {"text": "this component of what the work that we were going to be doing was looking to get a report back in around the end of", "start": 15632.8, "end": 15638.399}, {"text": "Q2 um of 2025 for that way if there was any possible or", "start": 15638.399, "end": 15643.88}, {"text": "potential um opportunities to enhance enhance any offerings or make any changes to the current programs um and", "start": 15643.88, "end": 15651.439}, {"text": "bookings of what we're currently doing that those could potentially be in place for the fall of", "start": 15651.439, "end": 15657.68}, {"text": "2025 okay I think Council knows where I'm going here like if the work is kind of projected to occur in the future as", "start": 15657.68, "end": 15665.239}, {"text": "part of a broader plan um I I don't want to see a redundancy I get that you want to get it", "start": 15665.239, "end": 15671.399}, {"text": "done fast I do get that but at the same time I'm I'm I would hope that if this this motion does pass and the staff", "start": 15671.399, "end": 15677.72}, {"text": "report goes ahead that there's um it's used in in the master plan that you", "start": 15677.72, "end": 15683.319}, {"text": "produce in 2025 as well do you know what I mean like there's an added value uh through you Mr chair yes we", "start": 15683.319, "end": 15689.88}, {"text": "would we would take that report and include some of the information and background information that we'll probably be doing ahead of time um to", "start": 15689.88, "end": 15696.64}, {"text": "include with the report um so it would be supplementary information really", "start": 15696.64, "end": 15703.92}, {"text": "thank you councelor Keli yes thanks Mr chair and to councelor Tes D's point I'll just give you a idea I forgot to", "start": 15703.92, "end": 15709.84}, {"text": "mention earlier to in relation to my thought process on this um it is a timing thing you know the Parks and", "start": 15709.84, "end": 15715.199}, {"text": "Recreation Master Plan update hasn't happened for 10 years Co slowed things down obviously so it is scheduled for 2025 as commissioner mentioned but uh my", "start": 15715.199, "end": 15724.04}, {"text": "understanding is that work is going to take over a year before we get any you know feedback as a result of what steps", "start": 15724.04, "end": 15729.199}, {"text": "we need to implement to address whether it's this concern or other concerns and part Parks and Recreation um so this", "start": 15729.199, "end": 15734.479}, {"text": "would essentially expedite us being able to do that work I mean I'll pose the", "start": 15734.479, "end": 15739.88}, {"text": "question to staff you know if they could advise if there's any vacancies in town operated gyms and if they could speak to", "start": 15739.88, "end": 15745}, {"text": "what the demand is like so that way staff can you know articulate I think we all know that there's a heavy demand for access to indor space but I'll let staff", "start": 15745, "end": 15752.359}, {"text": "answer that and address those points any further comments or questions", "start": 15752.359, "end": 15759.239}, {"text": "you have this okay question to staff sorry with that that was a rhetorical", "start": 15759.239, "end": 15764.8}, {"text": "question oh sorry no not rhetorical actual question yes commissioner uh through you Mr chair um", "start": 15764.8, "end": 15771.56}, {"text": "counselor is correct the majority of our gyms are very well utilized um you know", "start": 15771.56, "end": 15777.159}, {"text": "Monday to Friday night time weekends they're very well utilized gym space is in high demand um the programs dropin", "start": 15777.159, "end": 15784.76}, {"text": "programs that we do offer are generally you know sold out on many occasions as well um we haven't added any new", "start": 15784.76, "end": 15791.76}, {"text": "inventory in to town gym since I believe we added in the vdrome um and again population continues to increase there", "start": 15791.76, "end": 15798.8}, {"text": "has been some offsets with them of the additional new schools that have been built that have taken up some of the slack and will continue to do so and", "start": 15798.8, "end": 15806}, {"text": "there still is some there is some capacity inside the school gyms right now as we speak for people wishing to", "start": 15806, "end": 15811.399}, {"text": "take advantage of those spaces anything further Council K yes thanks and again my understanding to supplement that is", "start": 15811.399, "end": 15817.68}, {"text": "also that the next I think inventory of space that we're going to be adding is going to be the bo Community Center which is supposed to be designed I think", "start": 15817.68, "end": 15824.359}, {"text": "in 2026 not built for another two years after that so the town's not adding any more space until many years from now so", "start": 15824.359, "end": 15831.52}, {"text": "I think it's important to expedite this and seek that opportunity it's good for young people adults sports groups and other people that want to play and", "start": 15831.52, "end": 15837.56}, {"text": "access that healthy active Community thanks thank you councelor so uh to uh through you", "start": 15837.56, "end": 15844.68}, {"text": "through you chair to the commissioner I'm going to get to the bottom line are there real opportunities if we move", "start": 15844.68, "end": 15849.72}, {"text": "forward with this motion are there real opportunities Within a year to be able to find spaces and allow people to", "start": 15849.72, "end": 15856.76}, {"text": "utilize those spaces how big of an impact would it be if we move forward with this motion get the results and", "start": 15856.76, "end": 15862.76}, {"text": "identify is there is there a real opportunity", "start": 15862.76, "end": 15867.398}, {"text": "here through the chair um the inventory is the inventory and", "start": 15868.76, "end": 15874.88}, {"text": "the space that's available that's out there in the market right now is what's available um there is a price point and", "start": 15874.88, "end": 15881.199}, {"text": "these are in spaces in in facilities that are not town-owned or town controlled or or managed so these really", "start": 15881.199, "end": 15888.08}, {"text": "would be questions for the school boards um and again I can say that those spaces are available and available for rent for", "start": 15888.08, "end": 15895.64}, {"text": "residents that wish to rent them anyone else if not uh you have the", "start": 15895.64, "end": 15903.159}, {"text": "staff report in front of you with the Slate Amendment there move by councelor Keli second by councelor Ali all those", "start": 15903.159, "end": 15908.76}, {"text": "in favor motions carried and the clerk informs me now that we have 3 minutes", "start": 15908.76, "end": 15914.08}, {"text": "left that we need a motion to extend our meeting before Beyond 11:00 well hey", "start": 15914.08, "end": 15919.84}, {"text": "some people been asking move by councelor Cher second by councelor key all those in favor I give you 15 minutes", "start": 15919.84, "end": 15926.56}, {"text": "I hope okay there's no notice as a motion Regional Council update anyone", "start": 15926.56, "end": 15932.239}, {"text": "wishes to uh highlight things I've already done mine in writing nobody mayor no okay we do have a regional", "start": 15932.239, "end": 15940.119}, {"text": "council meeting on Wednesday which we hope to make Glenn happy and keep the tax rates the same is there any", "start": 15940.119, "end": 15946.56}, {"text": "statements by members no statements okay we do have a confidential session regarding some uh", "start": 15946.56, "end": 15953.6}, {"text": "negotiations does anyone need to go into camera being", "start": 15953.6, "end": 15959.08}, {"text": "none uh recommendations C and staff reports course 3324 be approved but", "start": 15959.08, "end": 15965.08}, {"text": "moved by councelor Malu and councelor cheler any questions to that report all those in favor carried", "start": 15965.08, "end": 15972.84}, {"text": "moving right along here and your most favorite resolutions", "start": 15972.84, "end": 15979.8}, {"text": "possible moved by councelor Mal second by councelor cheler that bylaws number 10824 through and including bylaws 11824", "start": 15979.8, "end": 15989.08}, {"text": "be read passed and numbered and the mayor and town clerk be authorized to sign the said bylaws seal them with a", "start": 15989.08, "end": 15994.88}, {"text": "seal the corporation that be reg gross in the bylaw books any questions the bylaws if not all those in favor motions", "start": 15994.88, "end": 16001.8}, {"text": "carried [Music]", "start": 16001.8, "end": 16007.279}, {"text": "we are now adjourned mayor", "start": 16007.279, "end": 16015.521}, {"text": "CR up here before you adjourn but yeah I know that and I'm going to help you very", "start": 16017.199, "end": 16022.72}, {"text": "quickly here but uh first of all I want to take this opportunity to wish each and every uh you know Citizen and", "start": 16022.72, "end": 16029.76}, {"text": "including this Council the very uh Merry Christmas and of course what I was", "start": 16029.76, "end": 16034.88}, {"text": "attempting to do after you read the 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