[{"text": "900 hours on December 10th um meetings", "start": 0.08, "end": 5.52}, {"text": "called to order can we I have you please join me in standing and uh doing the pledge of allegiance and a moment of", "start": 5.52, "end": 12.559}, {"text": "silence for reflection I pledge allegiance to the", "start": 12.559, "end": 18.56}, {"text": "flag of the United States of America to the Republic for it stands one nation", "start": 18.56, "end": 25.599}, {"text": "under God indivisible Liberty for", "start": 25.599, "end": 32.8}, {"text": "all hey thank you um Miss Cook could you do a roll", "start": 44.719, "end": 51.92}, {"text": "call please mayor Norris here council member gambaro here council member Miller here council member Stevens", "start": 51.92, "end": 61.32}, {"text": "Ste here vice mayor pontieri present all members are present okay Teresa glad", "start": 61.48, "end": 67.68}, {"text": "you're there um we're going to start out with public participation I'm not going to read 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119.28}, {"text": "can this be about anything yes sir other than what's on the agenda items at the time you'll have time to speak during", "start": 120.039, "end": 126.96}, {"text": "the agenda agenda items may I speak yes sir go right ahead well I have three", "start": 126.96, "end": 132.8}, {"text": "minutes sir you can step up to the microphone uh please state your name and", "start": 132.8, "end": 139.239}, {"text": "uh for the record good morning my name is Raymond", "start": 139.239, "end": 146.68}, {"text": "Gunter and um point of reference you say what else should I State no no just just", "start": 146.68, "end": 153.599}, {"text": "your name and then you can speak on your subject but if it's an agenda item now I have two minutes and 49 seconds to speak", "start": 153.599, "end": 160.879}, {"text": "about a problem that's been happening at my house since the Year", "start": 160.879, "end": 166.08}, {"text": "2006 and what it is there's a ravine next to the house that is a 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"there anyway but I got one second sir uh Mr Mr", "start": 323.039, "end": 329.96}, {"text": "Delorenzo can you um give Miss grman to speak with this gentleman and see if we", "start": 329.96, "end": 335.96}, {"text": "can resolve that issue thank you sir you you'll see Miss Grossman she'll help you out see this woman here yes ma'am yes", "start": 335.96, "end": 342.72}, {"text": "sir okay I'm sure something will be done I appreciate it we'll take care of it sir", "start": 342.72, "end": 350.12}, {"text": "okay uh anyone else for public", "start": 350.12, "end": 354.28}, {"text": "comments good morning my name is is Carrie prie I was", "start": 355.479, "end": 361.28}, {"text": "here last week talking about the Aquatic Facility I just have some other things I would like to share with you our", "start": 361.28, "end": 367.919}, {"text": "community currently has two swimming pools that are 50 years old and as of today a warm temperature of 78 degrees", "start": 367.919, "end": 375.759}, {"text": "and we have no open community pool available for residents to enjoy this highlights a critical need for Palm", "start": 375.759, "end": 382.319}, {"text": "Coast to prioritize the kind of community resource and amenities we want to provide to our residents as we look", "start": 382.319, "end": 388.599}, {"text": "to the future we must ask ourselves do we want to emulate the growth and Community investment seen in areas like", "start": 388.599, "end": 395.36}, {"text": "Pon aidra or remain Limited in amenities like plaa a notable concern to this", "start": 395.36, "end": 401}, {"text": "Flagler County is one of our five counties is is one of five counties in Florida without a 50 meter pool", "start": 401, "end": 408.4}, {"text": "additionally while the YMCA is named Bia Flagler it has no has has not had a", "start": 408.4, "end": 415.16}, {"text": "presence in our community for nearly a decade and when it did it was limited to a gym facil facility at the hospital", "start": 415.16, "end": 421.199}, {"text": "Reviving interest in establishing a YMCA or a a robust City County Community", "start": 421.199, "end": 428.16}, {"text": "Center could provide significant benefits these resources would serve as a hub for youth engagement offering safe", "start": 428.16, "end": 435.28}, {"text": "productive Afterschool activities and reducing the potential for violence and harmful distractions for the kids it", "start": 435.28, "end": 441.8}, {"text": "would also provide a sanctuary where parents can bring their children to to be mentored and to participate in", "start": 441.8, "end": 448.44}, {"text": "programs promoting physical and social well-being investing in our modern", "start": 448.44, "end": 453.479}, {"text": "Aquatic Facility and Community Center would not only enhance our communities amenities but also Foster a healthier", "start": 453.479, "end": 460.24}, {"text": "safer and more connective environment for our families let's take the steps to make this Vision a reality I also would", "start": 460.24, "end": 468.28}, {"text": "like to recommend you looking into", "start": 468.28, "end": 474.08}, {"text": "um um", "start": 474.12, "end": 478.12}, {"text": "I'm sorry uh", "start": 479.68, "end": 485.159}, {"text": "um applying for the um Community what's", "start": 485.599, "end": 491.44}, {"text": "the CDA what's the f um I can't think of the words", "start": 491.44, "end": 497.319}, {"text": "trying uh it's a grant program or something well for the county the uh TDC", "start": 497.319, "end": 504.36}, {"text": "yes thank you the TDC money that and helping to build this facility will", "start": 504.36, "end": 509.8}, {"text": "bring uh larger swim meets um water polo", "start": 509.8, "end": 515.24}, {"text": "Master swim meets synchronized swimming events that will come into the county to", "start": 515.24, "end": 520.44}, {"text": "provide and stay in hotels and um these", "start": 520.44, "end": 525.56}, {"text": "are weekend events that can be provided for the community that people will come and be able to utilize those facilities", "start": 525.56, "end": 532.88}, {"text": "and a prer all the Aquatic um activities that we could be able to provide thank", "start": 532.88, "end": 538.6}, {"text": "you Lauren help thank you ma'am uh anyone else for public", "start": 538.6, "end": 545.72}, {"text": "participation uh seeing no one com coming forward uh we will close public", "start": 546.16, "end": 551.8}, {"text": "participation and we'll move on to uh item e presentations um Mr Delorenzo you got", "start": 551.8, "end": 558.6}, {"text": "the", "start": 558.6, "end": 560.72}, {"text": "one mayor city council as um Mr dorenzo is getting his presentation um ready", "start": 564.959, "end": 571.16}, {"text": "this was uh requested to be on this workshop's agenda I believe we have brought you all up to speed about where", "start": 571.16, "end": 578.32}, {"text": "we are in the process um included in your agenda packet was the redline", "start": 578.32, "end": 583.36}, {"text": "version of the most recent upto-date ordinance um and Jason's here to review", "start": 583.36, "end": 590}, {"text": "some of those changes thank you Lauren good morning mayor city council", "start": 590, "end": 595.72}, {"text": "Jason D Lorenzo Chief of Staff so as city manager Johnson", "start": 595.72, "end": 602.079}, {"text": "mentioned uh this is an update from your uh previous two times you heard this um", "start": 602.079, "end": 609.44}, {"text": "also included in your backup as start as some of the um process work that we've", "start": 609.44, "end": 614.959}, {"text": "started we have a a checklist uh for an application in there we have a good neighbor posting uh mockup in there as", "start": 614.959, "end": 622.6}, {"text": "well and then the redline ordinance so I'm going to go through the changes from", "start": 622.6, "end": 628.76}, {"text": "the last me meaning and look for some guidance as we move forward towards an", "start": 628.76, "end": 634}, {"text": "ordinance so um some of the key points uh we have an effective date of March", "start": 634, "end": 640.12}, {"text": "the 3 to um uh start registering the short-term Reynolds uh registration is", "start": 640.12, "end": 647.32}, {"text": "mandatory and renewed annually um there's a maximum of 10", "start": 647.32, "end": 652.8}, {"text": "persons not including children under the age of one that was a recent change um background checks are required for the", "start": 652.8, "end": 660.04}, {"text": "renter um as you know the ordinance includes required uh", "start": 660.04, "end": 665.519}, {"text": "postings uh in addition to the Good Neighbor um posting that we produced uh", "start": 665.519, "end": 671.12}, {"text": "for parking noise solid waste the leash law boating regulations the name of the", "start": 671.12, "end": 676.76}, {"text": "owner and the contact information and then the ordinance of course includes uh enforcement and", "start": 676.76, "end": 684.56}, {"text": "remedies the first item that city council asked us to look at last time was uh deleting the exemptions for", "start": 684.56, "end": 692.959}, {"text": "on-site operators in the last iteration on-site operators were completely exempt", "start": 692.959, "end": 698.48}, {"text": "from this ordinance city council preferred not to have that so we deleted this language out of the ordinance", "start": 698.48, "end": 705.56}, {"text": "however at the same time city council asked for us to look for possible exemptions for uh on-site managed", "start": 705.56, "end": 712.959}, {"text": "properties um an on-site managed property is when the property owner remains in the home while the renters", "start": 712.959, "end": 719}, {"text": "are there just for edification um so these are some options if you chose to uh include some", "start": 719, "end": 726.68}, {"text": "exemptions you could uh pick one uh all or none of these uh background checks", "start": 726.68, "end": 732.76}, {"text": "not being required or parking regulations being consistent with the current code for", "start": 732.76, "end": 738.68}, {"text": "Residential Properties you'll remember that this ordinance has stricter parking", "start": 738.68, "end": 744.279}, {"text": "than our standard ordinance uh for parking uh and or perhaps you'd like to", "start": 744.279, "end": 749.959}, {"text": "have no maximum occupancy uh for an onsite managed", "start": 749.959, "end": 755.88}, {"text": "property because the on-site manager could deal with the um you know what", "start": 755.88, "end": 760.959}, {"text": "might occur with having additional folks there so um we we were asked to kind of come back", "start": 760.959, "end": 767.959}, {"text": "with some ideas so this is the some ideas about how to deal with onsite", "start": 767.959, "end": 773.279}, {"text": "managed properties so I'll pause if you have any thoughts about any of these", "start": 773.279, "end": 780.56}, {"text": "next next slide I don't have any I don't have anything right now we can you want to wait to discuss these at the end at", "start": 782.079, "end": 788.519}, {"text": "the presentation okay sir um we also deleted um from the um ordinance that", "start": 788.519, "end": 798.12}, {"text": "that included exit lighting um we deleted the word of the words of primary exit so uh emergency lighting is still", "start": 798.12, "end": 805.8}, {"text": "required but instead of having it uh be an expense of adding exit lighting it's", "start": 805.8, "end": 812.399}, {"text": "just temporary lighting these are plugins you can find them at your home improvement store in a multi pack", "start": 812.399, "end": 818.6}, {"text": "they're not very expensive if the power goes out or when it's dark they illuminate they illuminate the room uh", "start": 818.6, "end": 824.88}, {"text": "or the floor depending on how you have them set up so a little less", "start": 824.88, "end": 830.92}, {"text": "honorous um we added the language um that the maximum occupancy doesn't uh", "start": 830.92, "end": 837.68}, {"text": "include P under the age of one and we also added the language", "start": 837.68, "end": 845.16}, {"text": "referencing directly our leash law uh that we already have in", "start": 845.16, "end": 852.519}, {"text": "existence so those were the requested changes now I'm going to move on to um", "start": 852.519, "end": 858}, {"text": "what the public will see uh once we get this uh process up and running this is a", "start": 858, "end": 864.199}, {"text": "mockup of our code enforcement page on our website where we would add add a um", "start": 864.199, "end": 870.56}, {"text": "a button for short-term rental complaints um when you do that you would", "start": 870.56, "end": 876.32}, {"text": "land on the page on the left where you would submit a violation you'd put in the address what the concern is of", "start": 876.32, "end": 883.68}, {"text": "course it would all be our normal methods as well you could always email code enforcement call uh call customer", "start": 883.68, "end": 890.12}, {"text": "service uh call the sheriff's office if it's after hours or submit a pal Coast connect case all those options would be", "start": 890.12, "end": 896.48}, {"text": "available but this would be a direct option and and then um the public could also um look for the uh violation find", "start": 896.48, "end": 905.8}, {"text": "out the status of by using the code violation search and both of these are already existing we didn't have to build", "start": 905.8, "end": 912.16}, {"text": "anything new so lowcost options here uh for managing short-term", "start": 912.16, "end": 918.16}, {"text": "rentals uh then also will include links to the Airbnb help center and the vbo um", "start": 918.16, "end": 926.8}, {"text": "property concern pages so you can uh the public could submit a concern directly", "start": 926.8, "end": 932.24}, {"text": "to those platforms uh with uh you know if there's continuous problems at a um", "start": 932.24, "end": 938.6}, {"text": "at a certain location um as we move forward uh it's Our", "start": 938.6, "end": 945.519}, {"text": "intention to bring the ordinance for first reading on December the 17th uh", "start": 945.519, "end": 950.92}, {"text": "next Tuesday and then a second reading did I say a first reading on December the 17th a second reading on January the", "start": 950.92, "end": 957.839}, {"text": "7th which would also include the fee resolution um with an understanding that", "start": 957.839, "end": 964.319}, {"text": "Council would like this program to be uh cost", "start": 964.319, "end": 969.44}, {"text": "recovery that concludes my presentation okay let's open this item up for discussion among the council um does", "start": 970, "end": 977.48}, {"text": "anyone have anything uh yeah I would Mr Mayor I I was uh like to suggest that um", "start": 977.48, "end": 984.36}, {"text": "at a minimum we should not remove the background check requirement as an exemption I think that that's uh", "start": 984.36, "end": 989.399}, {"text": "something important for Public Safety um to ensure that people coming here um you", "start": 989.399, "end": 994.959}, {"text": "know are good people taking part in our city I would agree with that anyone else", "start": 994.959, "end": 1002.639}, {"text": "anyone else has have any issues I do mayor I just didn't want to cut anybody else off that was there in person and um", "start": 1002.639, "end": 1010.279}, {"text": "thank you for accommodating I'm very sick so I appreciate you all allowing me to appear virtually today um so I've had", "start": 1010.279, "end": 1018.12}, {"text": "a lot of community ation with our um C-section group the CCC the Coalition", "start": 1018.12, "end": 1025.6}, {"text": "and I think one of the the big concerns that they have expressed to me is uh the", "start": 1025.6, "end": 1031.558}, {"text": "daytime noise it sounds kind of odd right um but there's a lot of daytime", "start": 1031.559, "end": 1036.839}, {"text": "noise that's coming from these um from these rentals because people are there on vacation and while it may not seem", "start": 1036.839, "end": 1044.319}, {"text": "like it's something that we should regulate because it's not during quiet hours um they are concerned because it's", "start": 1044.319, "end": 1050.28}, {"text": "disrupting their enjoyment of their home you have people that are there for bachelor parties um birthday parties you", "start": 1050.28, "end": 1056.4}, {"text": "know things where there's a lot of loud music some of it obscene and a lot of times it's coming over the water and I", "start": 1056.4, "end": 1062.28}, {"text": "don't know if anybody lives on any water but you can hear everything on those canals um so I know that we had spoken", "start": 1062.28, "end": 1070.52}, {"text": "with uh code enforcement previously excuse me about um carrying deciel readers I think um and city manager you", "start": 1070.52, "end": 1077.48}, {"text": "can correct me if I'm wrong WR but I think that we have made a policy where um The Code Enforcement off officers are", "start": 1077.48, "end": 1083.679}, {"text": "to carry deciel readers so that they can better enforce the daytime noise and the nighttime noise as well but um in the in", "start": 1083.679, "end": 1091.52}, {"text": "the postings um inside the property I think it's really important that we make", "start": 1091.52, "end": 1097.08}, {"text": "it very clear that nighttime no noise is not the only concern that these folks", "start": 1097.08, "end": 1102.44}, {"text": "are one inside a residential community and they need to be respectful of their neighbors of the neighbor properties", "start": 1102.44, "end": 1109.4}, {"text": "with regards to noise at all hours of the day and then two I know um a really big", "start": 1109.4, "end": 1115.799}, {"text": "concern for these folks that I agree with is the way that these homes are advertised I don't think it's very clear", "start": 1115.799, "end": 1121.679}, {"text": "to people who are renting these properties that they're renting a property within a residential neighborhood um it seems like it would", "start": 1121.679, "end": 1128.44}, {"text": "be common sense to us but it needs to be advertised in the um St Str owners", "start": 1128.44, "end": 1134.76}, {"text": "advertisement of the property that that this there specific property is in a", "start": 1134.76, "end": 1141}, {"text": "residential neighborhood that way when people are renting they know that um", "start": 1141, "end": 1146.84}, {"text": "those are my those are my two um big concerns I I will just say that I think", "start": 1146.84, "end": 1153.84}, {"text": "that this is a great first step and I think that we need to move forward um I'm hoping I can get consensus from the", "start": 1153.84, "end": 1159.2}, {"text": "Council on those items I want to move forward with an ordinance but I I I do think that this is still going to be a", "start": 1159.2, "end": 1165.559}, {"text": "working progress because I agree ree with a lot of people in that we should", "start": 1165.559, "end": 1170.76}, {"text": "look into a private enforcement um company a third party company that enforces these Str strs rather than code", "start": 1170.76, "end": 1177.64}, {"text": "enforcement the reason for that is a lot of our residents have made complaints have contacted the property managers on", "start": 1177.64, "end": 1183.64}, {"text": "the property all of these things and they they've they've Inc um incurred", "start": 1183.64, "end": 1189.159}, {"text": "retribution for it um there's been retaliation there's people who have been cussed out um you know you're you're", "start": 1189.159, "end": 1195.28}, {"text": "talking about folks who are in their neighborhood complaining about what essentially is a business so they've", "start": 1195.28, "end": 1201}, {"text": "incurred a lot of backlash for that which should never happen um and because with code enforcement you have to give", "start": 1201, "end": 1206.52}, {"text": "your personal information that's what is occurring so these people are discouraged from making complaints which", "start": 1206.52, "end": 1212.4}, {"text": "should never happen so I would just suggest that we we move forward with this ordinance but that we consider um a", "start": 1212.4, "end": 1219.36}, {"text": "private enforcement company in the future okay thank you Teresa uh Commander Finn can you step up for a", "start": 1219.36, "end": 1225.679}, {"text": "second please", "start": 1225.679, "end": 1228.96}, {"text": "and this is this is concerning daytime noise um what what does the sheriff's", "start": 1237.72, "end": 1242.799}, {"text": "department I remember one time um we had a vacation rental right behind our house", "start": 1242.799, "end": 1248.2}, {"text": "moving just before we moved and um they're out there at like 9:00 a.m. on a", "start": 1248.2, "end": 1253.28}, {"text": "Sunday morning blaring their music and and I called the sheriff's department and they came out and the Deputy took", "start": 1253.28, "end": 1259.159}, {"text": "care of it so um what is our enforcement mechanism in cases like that during daytime noise the Sheriff's Office does", "start": 1259.159, "end": 1266.6}, {"text": "have a uh certified decimal meter that we use for those type of violations so", "start": 1266.6, "end": 1271.84}, {"text": "if if for the people of the city if someone is disturbing your piece at 9:00", "start": 1271.84, "end": 1277}, {"text": "a.m. on a Sunday morning and the music's too loud you are you can call the sheriff's department and they will", "start": 1277, "end": 1283.4}, {"text": "enforce the standard right if if the noise level exceeds the level for on you", "start": 1283.4, "end": 1289.32}, {"text": "know for the ordinance yes and it and it's pretty obvious if you're on on the other side of the canal and you can hear", "start": 1289.32, "end": 1294.4}, {"text": "music that's like it's in your living room they're going to enforcement correct correct all right thank you sir", "start": 1294.4, "end": 1301.08}, {"text": "I appreciate it uh my biggest concerns that I brought up to um the staff uh Mr", "start": 1301.08, "end": 1307.799}, {"text": "Delorenzo and Lauren yesterday was paying making uh within the bounds of", "start": 1307.799, "end": 1313.88}, {"text": "state law and federal law making sure that they pay and we have a me mechanism", "start": 1313.88, "end": 1319.08}, {"text": "as far as we're going to do that calculation on how much we need to to charge in our fees to cover um our staff", "start": 1319.08, "end": 1328}, {"text": "right Jason yes sir okay we're working on that okay no Homestead exempt", "start": 1328, "end": 1333.36}, {"text": "properties can be used other than for inhome um operators right that's a", "start": 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sheriff's department I can't control yeah okay um anyway I'm sorry I may have", "start": 1444.76, "end": 1452.36}, {"text": "skipped over you guys I'm Sorry Charlie R you got anything no I I think out of due", "start": 1452.36, "end": 1459.799}, {"text": "fairness it should be across the board yeah you know concerning background", "start": 1459.799, "end": 1464.96}, {"text": "checks Etc uh equal protection under under the for everyone it doesn't matter", "start": 1464.96, "end": 1470.159}, {"text": "what you know what type of operator um and I know we went through that as far as um when we were doing the", "start": 1470.159, "end": 1477.84}, {"text": "solicitation badges as far as felonies and stuff like that and Charlie you know like I had an installation Federal", "start": 1477.84, "end": 1485.799}, {"text": "installations uh as far as felony convictions you could not come on my", "start": 1485.799, "end": 1491.559}, {"text": "installation at all if you had a felony conviction within the the last 10 years", "start": 1491.559, "end": 1497.159}, {"text": "and also that that applied also to uh sex offenders", "start": 1497.159, "end": 1502.799}, {"text": "sex offenders were not allowed at all it didn't matter when they committed that felmy so um we don't want felons and", "start": 1502.799, "end": 1509.799}, {"text": "sexual predators in our short-term rentals within the city so any other any other discussion amongst the council uh", "start": 1509.799, "end": 1517.399}, {"text": "yes Mr Mayor I just had a question for Jason uh we had talked and I can't recall exactly what it was but um there", "start": 1517.399, "end": 1524.159}, {"text": "was possibly a change to the uh posting inside the house house that was", "start": 1524.159, "end": 1529.399}, {"text": "requested um what was that yes um we have an email from the canal Coalition", "start": 1529.399, "end": 1536.279}, {"text": "that would like to have some specific Rel uh language related to voting seems", "start": 1536.279, "end": 1541.76}, {"text": "like a good idea we can uh update the language in our Good Neighbor posting so it's just uh information regarding the", "start": 1541.76, "end": 1548.559}, {"text": "existing voting rules correct for the for the neighborhood um I'm I'm fine with that as well yeah yeah I think all", "start": 1548.559, "end": 1554.279}, {"text": "the all the documentation should be in the short-term rental with all State uh", "start": 1554.279, "end": 1559.559}, {"text": "all state laws County city laws and they should be strictly enforced um any any", "start": 1559.559, "end": 1566.799}, {"text": "more discussion among the council uh we'll open we'll open this", "start": 1566.799, "end": 1571.84}, {"text": "agenda item to public comment so if you're here concerning short-term rentals please step", "start": 1571.84, "end": 1578.6}, {"text": "forward and I hope we're getting to what you", "start": 1578.6, "end": 1583.32}, {"text": "want state your name good morning Eric Jost uh how's everybody doing this", "start": 1583.919, "end": 1589.32}, {"text": "morning good good thank you good all right um yeah I've got a pretty um", "start": 1589.32, "end": 1595.039}, {"text": "straightforward solution first of all to the noise um ordinances and", "start": 1595.039, "end": 1602}, {"text": "recommendations that required postings uh I tell you I think we really only", "start": 1602, "end": 1607.08}, {"text": "need to add one single sentence at the beginning that says we have daytime and", "start": 1607.08, "end": 1612.36}, {"text": "evening noise limits which is true as per 3553 um or 5335 I don't know for sure um", "start": 1612.36, "end": 1622.72}, {"text": "but if we say that we have daytime and evening noise limits that lets them know right up front it's all day and all", "start": 1622.72, "end": 1629.399}, {"text": "night after that we can say quiet time is 10: to 7: that's great that means be even quieter overnight um final sentence", "start": 1629.399, "end": 1638.24}, {"text": "uh on the welcome letter um yeah we should change be respectful of quiet time to uh be respectful of noise", "start": 1638.24, "end": 1645.84}, {"text": "regulations uh that would give the uh renters uh the understanding that we", "start": 1645.84, "end": 1652.559}, {"text": "expect them to be quiet all of the time which is what as neighbors we within", "start": 1652.559, "end": 1658.24}, {"text": "reason within reason absolutely everybody's entitled to have a good time um but sometimes it does get out of hand", "start": 1658.24, "end": 1666.08}, {"text": "uh with that would come a change to uh 1772 item G um and again we should be uh", "start": 1666.08, "end": 1673.88}, {"text": "telling them that they should provide notice that daytime and evening uh noise limits um should be", "start": 1673.88, "end": 1681.919}, {"text": "observed uh so I don't think that'll cause any legal problems um it clearly", "start": 1681.919, "end": 1688.519}, {"text": "states things that are already in place it's just a little difference in the way of wording it where uh we're saying hey", "start": 1688.519, "end": 1696}, {"text": "we expect you to be quiet during the day too you know you're going to have fun sure but uh it's not anything goes when", "start": 1696, "end": 1702.76}, {"text": "we say quiet hours it means that everything else is not quiet hours uh uh Also regarding the welcome", "start": 1702.76, "end": 1709.72}, {"text": "letter there was nothing about boating uh we definitely should let them know that all of the canals in Palm Coast are", "start": 1709.72, "end": 1716.559}, {"text": "uh speed limited um there's also uh you", "start": 1716.559, "end": 1722.399}, {"text": "know no wake zones by the marina as well as the manate zone that surrounds the", "start": 1722.399, "end": 1728.12}, {"text": "marina um and those are things that we should definitely be adding in there another thing I saw on the occupancy we", "start": 1728.12, 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exist existing", "start": 1778.48, "end": 1783.76}, {"text": "ordinance as far as Landscaping go exactly thank you sir thank you yes", "start": 1783.76, "end": 1791.2}, {"text": "ma'am hi I'm Jennifer Davidson um I have a Airbnb in the B section by the library", "start": 1793.039, "end": 1800.24}, {"text": "um and my biggest um issue is regarding the background checks Airbnb already", "start": 1800.24, "end": 1806.64}, {"text": "does their background checks so they already provide that they they check for sex offenders and all that so the last", "start": 1806.64, "end": 1813}, {"text": "people that were up there they suggested um that we just have the airb excuse me", "start": 1813, "end": 1820.399}, {"text": "ma'am excuse me ma'am gentlemen gentlemen gentlemen go ahead ma'am I'm sorry you", "start": 1820.399, "end": 1827.2}, {"text": "know sign a document that says that they're responsible for the other people in the party that's typically fine we", "start": 1827.2, "end": 1833}, {"text": "could do that um so that there's that the person renting is responsible that if somebody else was a sex offender in", "start": 1833, "end": 1838.919}, {"text": "their party then they'd be legally liable that's technically fine we could do that but Airbnb does background", "start": 1838.919, "end": 1844.2}, {"text": "checks already so it's not it's not necessary to do background checks little properties like mine I don't already I", "start": 1844.2, "end": 1851.799}, {"text": "don't profit on mine as it is um so I can't afford to do background check on", "start": 1851.799, "end": 1858.24}, {"text": "everyone that would also eliminate the same day rentals that would eliminate 24-hour rentals um because we wouldn't", "start": 1858.24, "end": 1864.88}, {"text": "have time to do background checks so we would have to say no to those reservations which is the primary of my", "start": 1864.88, "end": 1870.32}, {"text": "business um I get the most of mine are one nighters same day 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their Airbnb is completely unacceptable we need on call management um to be available for", "start": 1920.32, "end": 1927.159}, {"text": "all of these um so like the property managers they need to be they need to be liable to going over there whenever", "start": 1927.159, "end": 1933.039}, {"text": "there's a problem so they can resolve those issues out ofst State owners need to be liable for that stuff um instead", "start": 1933.039, "end": 1939.159}, {"text": "of punishing us who are in state who are in in city um they need to have more", "start": 1939.159, "end": 1946}, {"text": "restricted uh rules um and I think that's", "start": 1946, "end": 1952.24}, {"text": "uh pretty much my biggest things um I had more but I've said it to all the", "start": 1952.24, "end": 1958.279}, {"text": "other people so I don't remember now um but those are my biggest my biggest things okay thank you", "start": 1958.279, "end": 1965.639}, {"text": "ma'am hi there I'm Kathy Davidson I have an air beam be out of our home I am an in Resident I live in my home with my", "start": 1967.559, "end": 1973.799}, {"text": "Airbnb we have a six-bedroom house we ran out five of our rooms Airbnb allows us the privilege of being", "start": 1973.799, "end": 1980.679}, {"text": "able to be able to pay our bills and pay our mortgage payment to be able to live in our house we're grateful for that we", "start": 1980.679, "end": 1987.44}, {"text": "take care of our lawn we do everything that we're supposed to do we pay our bills we pay our taxes the whole nine", "start": 1987.44, "end": 1992.84}, {"text": "yards the front of our house we can fit 10 cars in the front of our house CU we have five rooms one lane for every", "start": 1992.84, "end": 1999.559}, {"text": "single car that is there um it takes care of everything so your decisions", "start": 1999.559, "end": 2005.12}, {"text": "affect whether we are able to pay our mortgage payment as far as the uh background checks as our daughter just", 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and I think", "start": 2090.32, "end": 2097.16}, {"text": "that's just out wrong I think there should be a system where if you're going to follow the rules you're here if", "start": 2097.16, "end": 2102.599}, {"text": "you're not going to follow the rules there are other stuff that you're going to have to go through or go you know", "start": 2102.599, "end": 2107.76}, {"text": "have happen if you're not going to follow those we happen to follow all the rules bad hope bad guests create bad", "start": 2107.76, "end": 2115.16}, {"text": "reviews and bad reviews do not get uh people to stay at your home ours is 4.8", "start": 2115.16, "end": 2121.32}, {"text": "we're proud to be Super H uh super host we've been super host for over nine years from the get-go and I'm to say I", "start": 2121.32, "end": 2128.28}, {"text": "do good that so we want to encourage people to do right and not punish those who are doing right and we're doing", "start": 2128.28, "end": 2135.04}, {"text": "right and um please take that all consideration when you make those decisions thank you thank you", "start": 2135.04, "end": 2141.44}, {"text": "[Music] ma'am good morning Mike solur from the", "start": 2141.44, "end": 2146.92}, {"text": "C-section um one I got a couple things one thing is that um Governor desandis might be leaving and he's the one that", "start": 2146.92, "end": 2152.8}, {"text": "kind of helped us out with uh vetoing that bill that came was going to come through that would take all the well we", "start": 2152.8, "end": 2158.2}, {"text": "didn't have any control but keep our control away from us now that we have some control I would like to see that some of these rules that we're trying to", "start": 2158.2, "end": 2164.4}, {"text": "get put in place be put in place before he leaves because we don't know the uh idea of the next person that would take", "start": 2164.4, "end": 2170.76}, {"text": "his place what kind of ideas they would have also I'm all for the management company that would uh be the person that", "start": 2170.76, "end": 2176.599}, {"text": "we would or the company we would call if we have issues because the way Society is right now you call something on the", "start": 2176.599, "end": 2182.64}, {"text": "most simplest thing and they want to shoot you or whatever these people sometimes might staying for a couple", "start": 2182.64, "end": 2188.48}, {"text": "days you call in on them well they're going to shoot your windows out or throw a brick through your car window or", "start": 2188.48, "end": 2193.56}, {"text": "something cuz they're leaving um so I think it'd be better to do that instead of having to give your name and address", "start": 2193.56, "end": 2199.2}, {"text": "and all that to the uh um to the city city thank you um and also another issue", "start": 2199.2, "end": 2206.92}, {"text": "I'm seeing is that um a lot of people you know are backing their cars in that", "start": 2206.92, "end": 2212.079}, {"text": "stops the police when they drive down the street and stuff to get the uh person's", "start": 2212.079, "end": 2218.079}, {"text": "background and all that it'd be nice I can understand if they unload the car then pull the car back out and put it in", "start": 2218.079, "end": 2223.72}, {"text": "where the license is accessible to be seen um and uh I think that was all I", "start": 2223.72, "end": 2229.88}, {"text": "really had so thank you all and I hope we can work something out where works for everybody all right thank you Mike", "start": 2229.88, "end": 2235.16}, {"text": "thank you Joel Davidson nice to meet yall and", "start": 2235.16, "end": 2241.72}, {"text": "wanted to encourage with the background checks because um I know mayor you are new we did vote for you by the way at", "start": 2241.72, "end": 2247.2}, {"text": "least is recommendation but the background checks are so very very important not to be done by us as", "start": 2247.2, "end": 2254.72}, {"text": "individual homeowners like my wife and daughter said and we're representing probably 300 homeowners in Airbnb they", "start": 2254.72, "end": 2262.2}, {"text": "don't know this meeting is going on or they'd all be here we didn't call everybody we're not that type of people we didn't want to come in here and have", "start": 2262.2, "end": 2268}, {"text": "a huge crowd of people and so we're speaking for probably for all of them um", "start": 2268, "end": 2273.72}, {"text": "the maximum occupancy we do have the five bedroom we rent so to have 10", "start": 2273.72, "end": 2280.04}, {"text": "people in a two or three bedroom home 10 people in a five-bedroom home we don't", "start": 2280.04, "end": 2285.079}, {"text": "get that many large groups the uh we've had in nine years we've had probably uh", "start": 2285.079, "end": 2292.16}, {"text": "20 maybe two a year groups of 15 16 people these are sporting teams these", "start": 2292.16, "end": 2298.079}, {"text": "are wedding groups these are family reunions and these 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course the final page says that the background checks are so", "start": 2343.56, "end": 2349.4}, {"text": "darn important to not require that to be done the um the bike week there should be a um", "start": 2349.4, "end": 2359.24}, {"text": "elimination an option during Bike Week where it's okay for people to park their trailers people don't usually Drive", "start": 2359.24, "end": 2366.599}, {"text": "their motorcycle for bike week they usually tow them then they leave the trailer in the driveway and they take", "start": 2366.599, "end": 2371.68}, {"text": "their bikes to go for bike week we should be able to continue to do that that is our biggest week of the year it", "start": 2371.68, "end": 2377.68}, {"text": "is the highest cost of income to our family is bike week and telling people", "start": 2377.68, "end": 2383.52}, {"text": "they can't bring their trailer or they got to go pay to park it somewhere would just not be right for the simple stuff", "start": 2383.52, "end": 2388.68}, {"text": "that we do um sexual offenders sexual predators again there's 50 that live", "start": 2388.68, "end": 2394.52}, {"text": "within a f mile range of where we're standing right now do we do a sex background check for everybody that walks through the door of city council", "start": 2394.52, "end": 2401.64}, {"text": "no of course not and what there are there are sexual predators that haven't been caught yet so you know again it's", "start": 2401.64, "end": 2407.599}, {"text": "just kind of crazy to expect us to do that and it would be impossible with people probably 60% of our business are", "start": 2407.599, "end": 2416.28}, {"text": "that day that day they rent and that night they're there um and um and sorry", "start": 2416.28, "end": 2422.8}, {"text": "just one question if I could clarify properties with more than four units under the same roof and our collectively", "start": 2422.8, "end": 2427.96}, {"text": "owned do not have to register would that be us would we 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Airbnb rental because they've had two bad reviews and they're done nobody rent them thank you very much for giving me a few extra", "start": 2468.16, "end": 2474.44}, {"text": "seconds all right thank you sir thank", "start": 2474.44, "end": 2477.88}, {"text": "you morning Mark stel uh it's nice that Airbnb does that uh background stuff but", "start": 2479.48, "end": 2486.119}, {"text": "not everybody their house in Palm Coast through Airbnb so maybe it's a good thing to do I don't know how it to be", "start": 2486.119, "end": 2492.88}, {"text": "managed but the reason I'm here is uh not all the homeowners uh that rent out", "start": 2492.88, "end": 2498.48}, {"text": "their houses uh really really care about whether people make noise or not uh some", "start": 2498.48, "end": 2504.24}, {"text": "of them you out of state they don't care uh so code enforcement comes by gives them a warning two days later the people", "start": 2504.24, "end": 2511.24}, {"text": "are gone oh problem corrected next month people come in make noise park the cars", "start": 2511.24, "end": 2518}, {"text": "wrong get a warning up they're gone problem corrected doesn't solve the", "start": 2518, "end": 2524}, {"text": "problem the owner needs to know that there's consequences to letting people do that there's ways to do that so if", "start": 2524, "end": 2532.319}, {"text": "they sign an application and a rental agreement if the code enforcement had a special Clause like rental property", "start": 2532.319, "end": 2539.92}, {"text": "procedures and had specific violations that the owner knows will happen to them", "start": 2539.92, "end": 2547.8}, {"text": "if they allow these people to come and then just forget about it like for example first violation sent to the", "start": 2547.8, "end": 2555.319}, {"text": "owner knowing that their people that they let s in their house violated the city code that's a", "start": 2555.319, "end": 2564.24}, {"text": "warning okay next time somebody does that they get another V warning VI", "start": 2564.24, "end": 2570.76}, {"text": "violation they're going to get a fine not another warning they've already got", "start": 2570.76, "end": 2576}, {"text": "a warning get a fine you know City determines what that", "start": 2576, "end": 2581.48}, {"text": "fine is third violation okay so they obviously not paying attention third", "start": 2581.48, "end": 2587.599}, {"text": "violation suspend their rental Pro property for 30 days so they can't make any of their precious money and if they", "start": 2587.599, "end": 2594.839}, {"text": "ignore that fourth violation suspend their permit that'll solve the problem all you", "start": 2594.839, "end": 2602}, {"text": "got to do is put put that in the thing that they sign knowing that these are", "start": 2602, "end": 2607.48}, {"text": "the things that can happen to them if they don't pay attention to their property okay and of course you have to", "start": 2607.48, "end": 2614.24}, {"text": "add that to the code enforcement policy standard operating procedures for rental", "start": 2614.24, "end": 2619.28}, {"text": "property these are just suggestions that maybe we ought to take thank you thank you", "start": 2619.28, "end": 2626.2}, {"text": "Mark hey good morning ma'am uh Norris and the rest of the council my name is", "start": 2626.72, "end": 2632.2}, {"text": "Quinn cresy I come from the CCC I want to just address a few issu isues um so", "start": 2632.2, "end": 2639.68}, {"text": "Little Red Riding Hood um has a dilemma uh her grandmother is locked in the cup", "start": 2639.68, "end": 2645.64}, {"text": "and the Wolf is cozy in bed and um who should Little Red Riding Hood call", "start": 2645.64, "end": 2651}, {"text": "should it be the wolves um I think seeing advertising for Airbnb and verbo", "start": 2651, "end": 2657.599}, {"text": "on the um uh City site um is kind of", "start": 2657.599, "end": 2662.92}, {"text": "like that situation Airbnb has actually lost a lot of market share this year in 2024 and so the fact that Airbnb does", "start": 2662.92, "end": 2671.68}, {"text": "some background checks on some people um is I think quite irrelevant Airbnb", "start": 2671.68, "end": 2678.76}, {"text": "actually does not um we've researched this extensively does not do um comprehensive background checks on all", "start": 2678.76, "end": 2685.48}, {"text": "the people that rent I think all of us who have used airnb ourselves", "start": 2685.48, "end": 2690.68}, {"text": "um uh know that um so um that's just one", "start": 2690.68, "end": 2696.24}, {"text": "um issue that I want to address um the daytime noise can seem like such a", "start": 2696.24, "end": 2702.599}, {"text": "insignificant issue to people who don't have to deal with it every day um but we", "start": 2702.599, "end": 2708.64}, {"text": "had a neighbor who um had been a combat veteran an elderly man he was dying of", "start": 2708.64, "end": 2714.16}, {"text": "cancer we didn't know about this he was 6 feet 7 feet 8T from a rockus party um", "start": 2714.16, "end": 2723.48}, {"text": "happening through the day through the night the types of parties have in C-sections are cute little 5-year-old", "start": 2723.48, "end": 2730.4}, {"text": "birthday parties with 17 screaming children it sounds very cute oh let the", "start": 2730.4, "end": 2736.119}, {"text": "children swim and play in the pool but if you have a job and you're working from home um as many of us do and many", "start": 2736.119, "end": 2743.68}, {"text": "are at home at the moment doing that having screaming masses of children or", "start": 2743.68, "end": 2749.76}, {"text": "frat parties or in um uh um whatever you", "start": 2749.76, "end": 2755.4}, {"text": "do before you go and get get married parties and um you know Keras and just", "start": 2755.4, "end": 2762.04}, {"text": "the list goes on we are experiencing such anxiety as we um plan events in our", "start": 2762.04, "end": 2768.72}, {"text": "homes hoping to um host a nice quiet Christmas and we don't know what party", "start": 2768.72, "end": 2775.16}, {"text": "is coming across the canal we can hear the words um I think that 0% of our", "start": 2775.16, "end": 2781.68}, {"text": "members have had success in contacting airbnb's line and having any help", "start": 2781.68, "end": 2786.92}, {"text": "helpful response um we are so grateful to the Sheriff's Office they really deal", "start": 2786.92, "end": 2793.52}, {"text": "with things so well after 10:00 I think it's unusual um and I don't have time to", "start": 2793.52, "end": 2799.64}, {"text": "tell experiences now but um I don't think it's right that they have to address things in the day and so far we", "start": 2799.64, "end": 2806.04}, {"text": "haven't had the experience that they do thank you very much thank you ma'am", "start": 2806.04, "end": 2812.559}, {"text": "hello I'm Julia Connelly also with the C-section group um I just have a couple questions about how the city will handle", "start": 2819.24, "end": 2826.72}, {"text": "um repeated ordinance violations um I believe that according to the state law we can't", "start": 2826.72, "end": 2833.28}, {"text": "prohibit these um the short-term rentals from from from people having short-term", "start": 2833.28, "end": 2840.079}, {"text": "rentals um so I I don't know what the plan is if", "start": 2840.079, "end": 2846.28}, {"text": "you have one that's a problem if it um goes does it have to go on for a year", "start": 2846.28, "end": 2851.72}, {"text": "and then the city revisit the other thing is um how will the city verify the background checks have been done um what", "start": 2851.72, "end": 2859}, {"text": "is the mechanism how that works as uh Quinn said that um if you look on the", "start": 2859, "end": 2864.44}, {"text": "two most popular um rental websites vbo and Airbnb um vbo says they just don't", "start": 2864.44, "end": 2873.8}, {"text": "um look at criminal records and um Airbnb says that they only do them", "start": 2873.8, "end": 2879.119}, {"text": "intermittently and that only applies to us-based um renters if they're overseas", "start": 2879.119, "end": 2886.079}, {"text": "they don't have a way to do that um so", "start": 2886.079, "end": 2891.28}, {"text": "just curious on how how the background check verification will work and does it", "start": 2891.28, "end": 2897.04}, {"text": "only come to light when there has been a serious incident like maybe a sexual", "start": 2897.04, "end": 2902.48}, {"text": "predator uh casing the neighborhood for you know children that live in the a or um that so those are my questions um", "start": 2902.48, "end": 2912.24}, {"text": "and I thank you for considering us thank you ma'am any further public", "start": 2912.24, "end": 2920.4}, {"text": "comments if not I'll close public comments now and come back to the dis uh", "start": 2920.4, "end": 2927.559}, {"text": "Mr Del Renzo that's a couple of let's try to see if we can run this to ground real quick", "start": 2927.559, "end": 2932.72}, {"text": "um background checks have we verified that air Airbnb and all these other outlets that uh service these people um", "start": 2932.72, "end": 2942.04}, {"text": "do they do background checks and is there a way that we can in follow up to", "start": 2942.04, "end": 2948.52}, {"text": "make sure that they're done um because I'm saying if there's a if if you're going through a third party and they're", "start": 2948.52, "end": 2955.359}, {"text": "saying they're doing the background checks and we don't want to charge our make our residents have to do them", "start": 2955.359, "end": 2961.24}, {"text": "independently uh what is our mechanism for that what how are we going to fix this issue uh mayor it is our", "start": 2961.24, "end": 2968.64}, {"text": "understanding that the booking platforms as part of your um terms of service to", "start": 2968.64, "end": 2974.72}, {"text": "use them you um allow a background check to be performed on you and that's for", "start": 2974.72, "end": 2980.799}, {"text": "the the uh operator and for the renter um we had we were contacted by a", "start": 2980.799, "end": 2989.52}, {"text": "representative from Airbnb when we first started this conversation and uh they", "start": 2989.52, "end": 2995.16}, {"text": "indicated that was the case they described that to us so we that is our", "start": 2995.16, "end": 3000.52}, {"text": "understanding that that's how that works okay so um if the third party vendor are", "start": 3000.52, "end": 3007.079}, {"text": "doing background checks we're not going to require our Airbnb people to do them", "start": 3007.079, "end": 3012.4}, {"text": "correct that is not how the ordinance is currently written okay that that uh city council previously discussed that and", "start": 3012.4, "end": 3019.2}, {"text": "did not uh add that into the ordinance right now it would be the responsibility", "start": 3019.2, "end": 3025.359}, {"text": "of the property owner owner to perform the background check and to answer while", "start": 3025.359, "end": 3031.119}, {"text": "we're talking about background checks to answer this question um by affidavit you", "start": 3031.119, "end": 3037.68}, {"text": "are the um operator when they apply um um is acknowledging that they know that", "start": 3037.68, "end": 3044.4}, {"text": "they have to perform a background check on uh everyone okay every renter not every", "start": 3044.4, "end": 3050.359}, {"text": "occupant every renter okay so does that does that answer the question about if", "start": 3050.359, "end": 3055.44}, {"text": "they have to do it themselves elves or the third that's in the ordinance right that that is not currently in the", "start": 3055.44, "end": 3061.079}, {"text": "ordinance right now it's the property owner's responsibility to perform the background check it and it does not rely", "start": 3061.079, "end": 3068.64}, {"text": "on the booking platform to um to perform the background check okay so what's the", "start": 3068.64, "end": 3075.119}, {"text": "solution especially for the overseas clientele I I never I didn't think about that so what's the solution how should", "start": 3075.119, "end": 3081}, {"text": "we go about it so Mr Mayor I I uh am in", "start": 3081, "end": 3086.28}, {"text": "favor of not charging or forcing um a resident to do a secondary background", "start": 3086.28, "end": 3092.04}, {"text": "check if one's already completed my only reservation is the extent of that background check from third parties um", "start": 3092.04, "end": 3099.48}, {"text": "and then how how do we ensure that that's occurring how do they uh produce that document to us or is there an", "start": 3099.48, "end": 3106.52}, {"text": "affidavit they would have to to sign to say that you know they had a background check um so so that's kind of my only", "start": 3106.52, "end": 3113.92}, {"text": "reservations with that I'm not in favor of if there's already one done forcing residents to then have to have a second", "start": 3113.92, "end": 3120.52}, {"text": "one uh but I want to ensure that a correct one has been done and we have uh evidence or proof of that yeah if it's", "start": 3120.52, "end": 3127.52}, {"text": "going if they're saying they're doing them um even even if you pay if you pay", "start": 3127.52, "end": 3133.64}, {"text": "for a background check um a lot of time unless you you you have experience maybe", "start": 3133.64, "end": 3139.319}, {"text": "Commander Finn can say this unless you have experience with ncic and going through and checking people's background", "start": 3139.319, "end": 3145.28}, {"text": "you want to know what you're looking at anyway would you uh Commander Finn you wouldn't know what you're looking at if you weren't experienced with ncic the", "start": 3145.28, "end": 3152.28}, {"text": "background system we have in the states yeah it it can be quite confusing because you can have people pop up uh", "start": 3152.28, "end": 3159.52}, {"text": "with the same name like me I was detained one time coming off of a cruise for some other dude with my exact same", "start": 3159.52, "end": 3165.76}, {"text": "name and and it wasn't me I was an active duty military officer at the time", "start": 3165.76, "end": 3170.92}, {"text": "like I didn't do anything uh so I just want to have those mechanisms in there so see what you can do with that to make", "start": 3170.92, "end": 3177.68}, {"text": "sure we're doing the right thing I I don't want I don't want our residents that that especially inhome uh airbnbs", "start": 3177.68, "end": 3185.64}, {"text": "they have to pay 50 $60 to run a background check that they probably wouldn't understand anyway if they", "start": 3185.64, "end": 3190.839}, {"text": "looked at it yeah mayor um we're currently paying 6450 for a background check yeah that's the price that um", "start": 3190.839, "end": 3197.839}, {"text": "Barbara said is our cost for um performing those as part of some of the other operations we do mayor I'm not", "start": 3197.839, "end": 3203.76}, {"text": "sure I heard a consensus to make that change in the ordinance can we get consensus to to iron that", "start": 3203.76, "end": 3210.68}, {"text": "out I if I may mayor um oh I forgot tresa you're the lawyer let's have your", "start": 3210.68, "end": 3215.96}, {"text": "input that's okay um my suggestion I'm with you and I I kind of voiced this before you know I have some concerns", "start": 3215.96, "end": 3222.599}, {"text": "about airbnb's policy with regards to their background check but I do think they do a robust background check and as", "start": 3222.599, "end": 3229.28}, {"text": "a prior Airbnb owner I can tell you um that their their background check is", "start": 3229.28, "end": 3235.16}, {"text": "check is pretty robust and I actually do think it probably might be better in some regards than what we were", "start": 3235.16, "end": 3240.92}, {"text": "previously looking at for the ordinance so I think that there should be some language written in that states that a", "start": 3240.92, "end": 3247.599}, {"text": "background check is required unless um the owner is willing to certify under", "start": 3247.599, "end": 3253.079}, {"text": "oath that the platform that they use already conducts a background check at the level or a superior level than what", "start": 3253.079, "end": 3260.16}, {"text": "the city is requiring and then to councilman um Miller's point if they", "start": 3260.16, "end": 3265.319}, {"text": "sign an affidavit as part of their registration package to that I think that that should be sufficient um and if", "start": 3265.319, "end": 3271.76}, {"text": "I may just really quickly since I am remote here and it's kind of hard to um jump in in a timely Fashion on the um on", "start": 3271.76, "end": 3279.2}, {"text": "the noise the daytime noise issue I do think that that notice that we have posted inside of the residents if we", "start": 3279.2, "end": 3284.599}, {"text": "could get consensus that it should mention um the daytime noise issue um", "start": 3284.599, "end": 3289.96}, {"text": "that we should address that I I did also too on the ordinance itself there are a few um there's one really important typo", "start": 3289.96, "end": 3297.599}, {"text": "that I want to address um where we say that the maximum occupancy is limited to", "start": 3297.599, "end": 3303}, {"text": "10 um I think it's on page 27 or 29 we changed the actual", "start": 3303, "end": 3310.559}, {"text": "um numeral from from 12 to 10 but we didn't change the the written number so", "start": 3310.559, "end": 3316.04}, {"text": "in the ordinance itself Jason there's a typo we need to make sure that those match up that they both say 10 because", "start": 3316.04, "end": 3321.359}, {"text": "right now one says 12 and the other says 10 and that's in the language of the ordinance itself yes vice mayor thank", "start": 3321.359, "end": 3327.48}, {"text": "you we um we made that Mark say aware and we'll have it fixed okay perfect thank you okay M Mr Mayor if I I may so", "start": 3327.48, "end": 3337.039}, {"text": "just a point out right now it currently the ordinance is written is that the whoever is applying to get the", "start": 3337.039, "end": 3343.359}, {"text": "application to be a short-term rental in Pom Coast has to certify that a background check was done yes if it's", "start": 3343.359, "end": 3348.839}, {"text": "the direction of this Council what we can do is saying that they can also certify it was done through Airbnb or or", "start": 3348.839, "end": 3356.48}, {"text": "ver verbo something like that that it was already completed that way that we're kind of killing two birds with one", "start": 3356.48, "end": 3361.64}, {"text": "stone and that's uh what the this Council would like to direct everyone every everyone happy with okay we have", "start": 3361.64, "end": 3368.4}, {"text": "consent on that Miss Miss cook so um the other the other question and uh Teresa", "start": 3368.4, "end": 3374.72}, {"text": "mentioned it about the occupancy as as the lady mentioned about them having a", "start": 3374.72, "end": 3379.92}, {"text": "large house um so if you have a a room you have six", "start": 3379.92, "end": 3385.2}, {"text": "rooms you say two 12 people that's not counting infants and toddlers you know", "start": 3385.2, "end": 3390.319}, {"text": "so that may be three people per room um it's written now Max occupancy is 10 I", "start": 3390.319, "end": 3397.52}, {"text": "think it should be based on on room number two two persons per room yes may", "start": 3397.52, "end": 3403.28}, {"text": "excluding infants and toddlers the the ordinance is written in that way it's two persons per habit habitable space", "start": 3403.28, "end": 3411.28}, {"text": "with a maximum of 10 not including children under the age of one okay I", "start": 3411.28, "end": 3416.64}, {"text": "think it should be based on two persons per bedroom this is another one where city", "start": 3416.64, "end": 3423.319}, {"text": "council has gone back and fourth we originally proposed uh 12 um but city council backed it down to", "start": 3423.319, "end": 3430}, {"text": "10 at one of the previous meetings that was Theresa's recommendation for and and I'm going to stick by that mayor I I", "start": 3430, "end": 3436.359}, {"text": "think that it's really important 10 people is a lot of people and I also as a you know being part of this community", "start": 3436.359, "end": 3442.96}, {"text": "um I can tell you my I'll tell you my my my very large fear here when we start to cut out certain things and say oh well", "start": 3442.96, "end": 3449.68}, {"text": "these people have a a six-bedroom house so let's increase it to 12 A system that", "start": 3449.68, "end": 3455.72}, {"text": "allows for certain things will always be abused and so my concern is that if we", "start": 3455.72, "end": 3461.24}, {"text": "don't put an absolute cap on 10 um we will see certain properties not all of", "start": 3461.24, "end": 3468}, {"text": "them but there always will be be people who abuse the system we will and I'm not saying that the people in the room are", "start": 3468, "end": 3473.28}, {"text": "those folks I I just know from again from being in this community we will all of a sudden see people say oh well no I", "start": 3473.28, "end": 3480.48}, {"text": "do have this extra habitable space and they'll try to create efficiencies and things like that I just think that", "start": 3480.48, "end": 3486.44}, {"text": "putting a cap on 10 is the way we should is the way we should move forward there was very broad public support for 10 I", "start": 3486.44, "end": 3494.44}, {"text": "feel um it's unfortunate that for the folks that maybe have um larger homes", "start": 3494.44, "end": 3499.96}, {"text": "which I know that they're pretty limited um in our community now that can fit 12", "start": 3499.96, "end": 3505.16}, {"text": "people or more but again if you start to if you start to just say two people per habitable", "start": 3505.16, "end": 3511.119}, {"text": "space then it gets into this well what's a habitable space and although we have defined it it's still malleable and I so", "start": 3511.119, "end": 3518.559}, {"text": "I think that we need to put a hard line 10 is a lot of people that is a lot of people we have to take a step back and", "start": 3518.559, "end": 3525.599}, {"text": "look at the fact that you're allowing 10 people to rent a residential property", "start": 3525.599, "end": 3530.96}, {"text": "that is flanked on both sides front and back so four sides with other residents", "start": 3530.96, "end": 3536.68}, {"text": "and you're allowing up to 10 people to rent that property not including babies", "start": 3536.68, "end": 3542.839}, {"text": "so to me 10 is a lot 10 is a very hard line let's not get into this whole two", "start": 3542.839, "end": 3549.319}, {"text": "people per habitable space just because we have a few properties right now that have technical six bedrooms because I", "start": 3549.319, "end": 3556.28}, {"text": "think you just allow too much um that's up for interpretation and too much subjectivity 10 is a lot um we have", "start": 3556.28, "end": 3564.68}, {"text": "accommodated I think with specifically to the lighting changes that we made", "start": 3564.68, "end": 3569.799}, {"text": "their lighting requirement changes that we made and also to the background changes that we've made we have accommodated um both sides here and I I", "start": 3569.799, "end": 3577.24}, {"text": "just think that we need to stick with 10 because again we're looking at a residential property that likely on one", "start": 3577.24, "end": 3584.119}, {"text": "side has two people four people on the other side an elderly couple I mean really 10 is a lot and so I'm going to I", "start": 3584.119, "end": 3591.16}, {"text": "stick very hard on my stance that 10 should be the max okay thank you Teresa so we have consens that will remain for", "start": 3591.16, "end": 3598.039}, {"text": "10 Max occup yeah I agree I think that um you know when we talk about the the", "start": 3598.039, "end": 3604.24}, {"text": "trouble groups that come in it's anecdotally my thoughts are those are the larger groups so limiting that in", "start": 3604.24, "end": 3611.599}, {"text": "some way to to a cap is a good thing in my eyes okay so we'll stay with 10 everybody agree okay uh the next", "start": 3611.599, "end": 3619.119}, {"text": "question uh Mr Delorenzo and Barbara is um enforcing repeat offenders", "start": 3619.119, "end": 3627.96}, {"text": "that's that's a that's a big sticking point is enforcing repeat offenders as per the Florida statute 162", "start": 3628.24, "end": 3636.44}, {"text": "the ultimate responsible party is the property owner so even if you have a a", "start": 3636.44, "end": 3641.76}, {"text": "renter on your property even if you had it in long term like we do now the rental the renter is not the one that's", "start": 3641.76, "end": 3648.2}, {"text": "coming to code board it's the property owner it's just like in our ordinance right now when we do post a property and", "start": 3648.2, "end": 3654.079}, {"text": "we do mail send certified in regular mail we're also contacting the property manager all right so the owner is being", "start": 3654.079, "end": 3662.16}, {"text": "notified the property owner is being notified and the renter is being notified in the case of short-term", "start": 3662.16, "end": 3667.72}, {"text": "rentals they're going to be gone but they're still going to be coming through a due process as per the state and so if", "start": 3667.72, "end": 3674.88}, {"text": "we have um recurring or repeat then of course when we go to look at their um", "start": 3674.88, "end": 3681.599}, {"text": "renewal uh for their short-term res um registration", "start": 3681.599, "end": 3686.799}, {"text": "that could be grounds for revoking okay so just as long as we had that enforcement mechanism to to cut that out", "start": 3686.799, "end": 3694.52}, {"text": "if this gets to be a real problem any other discussion uh yes Mr Mayor I just", "start": 3694.52, "end": 3701.119}, {"text": "uh just wanted to go back to we talked about adding the voting rules to the the sign as well as daytime noise uh I don't", "start": 3701.119, "end": 3710.079}, {"text": "think we actually discussed to see if we had consensus I think we do do we have consensus as far as both regulations", "start": 3710.079, "end": 3716.64}, {"text": "being posted in the short-term rentals I do Teresa you're good with that just", "start": 3716.64, "end": 3721.68}, {"text": "just one more thing Mr may it does say in the ordinance that they have to buy by all nighttime and daytime rules along with Federal floor statue and local", "start": 3721.68, "end": 3728.64}, {"text": "rules okay but we'll we'll be happy to add those things to the um required postings okay well I just I just want to", "start": 3728.64, "end": 3735.64}, {"text": "make it make sure that it's um equal protection for everyone and we're doing the right thing by our citizens mayor I", "start": 3735.64, "end": 3741.72}, {"text": "heard one other question that wasn't addressed if you don't mind sorry go ahead um that was properties with four", "start": 3741.72, "end": 3747.839}, {"text": "units or more that would be four dwelling units not four rooms or more so", "start": 3747.839, "end": 3753.4}, {"text": "U that would be like a condominium okay all right I I'd like to point of", "start": 3753.4, "end": 3760.68}, {"text": "clarification when 10 people the maximum amount of", "start": 3760.68, "end": 3766.079}, {"text": "people on a rental um and you do one", "start": 3766.079, "end": 3771.16}, {"text": "background check is that correct on the person that is actually renting that the house what about the 10 other people see", "start": 3771.16, "end": 3779.44}, {"text": "that's not foolproof and as far as ncic is concerned uh you can have people with", "start": 3779.44, "end": 3785.559}, {"text": "the same name same date of birth the only sure way to determine whether or not somebody actually has a criminal", "start": 3785.559, "end": 3792.079}, {"text": "record is through fingerprints and that you can't do in one day did they have to", "start": 3792.079, "end": 3797.2}, {"text": "send them up digitally uh to Tallahasse and they'll tell you they'll make a", "start": 3797.2, "end": 3802.68}, {"text": "match so uh the people that have only one day rentals are not going to be able", "start": 3802.68, "end": 3808.64}, {"text": "to get a background check that's worth anything uh and that that that's my", "start": 3808.64, "end": 3815.44}, {"text": "concern and I think that and in all of these boating rules and the rules of the", "start": 3815.44, "end": 3821.279}, {"text": "road so to speak at the house should when they rent or this BNB should have a", "start": 3821.279, "end": 3826.92}, {"text": "packet should have a a brochure say this is your in a residential neighborhood", "start": 3826.92, "end": 3832.279}, {"text": "this is the boating rules these are you know the noise ordinances so people are forewarned and they are aware uh of what", "start": 3832.279, "end": 3841.72}, {"text": "is required of them yes the the ordinance lays out uh council member the ordinance lays out all the required", "start": 3841.72, "end": 3848.559}, {"text": "postings that have to be in inside the home well I and the location well well I", "start": 3848.559, "end": 3854.88}, {"text": "don't know it would make more sense to me if whoever's renting this gave this", "start": 3854.88, "end": 3859.96}, {"text": "to the to the prospective renters beforehand excuse me so you know maybe", "start": 3859.96, "end": 3866.24}, {"text": "they won't rent when they find out there are all of these rules and uh instead of", "start": 3866.24, "end": 3871.4}, {"text": "having them sign a contract go to a background search and then find out what the rules are and I it's preemptive just", "start": 3871.4, "end": 3880.64}, {"text": "a suggestion the when they may I may I I I have a um suggestion because I agree", "start": 3880.64, "end": 3887.16}, {"text": "with um councilman Stevens on that perhaps whatever we decide we're going to post inside of the rentals so we", "start": 3887.16, "end": 3895.039}, {"text": "talked about you know adding the boting language per councilman uh Miller we've talked about the daytime noise I think", "start": 3895.039, "end": 3901.68}, {"text": "that what we should require because excuse me on all these platforms when you when you advertise you do list your", "start": 3901.68, "end": 3908.88}, {"text": "household rules and you have the ability to add delete the owners have a lot of um leeway with regards to what they can", "start": 3908.88, "end": 3915.96}, {"text": "add I think that it should be a requirement that whatever we decide is in that posting should also be listed in", "start": 3915.96, "end": 3922.279}, {"text": "the household rules on the rental that way the owner councilman Steven's Point", "start": 3922.279, "end": 3927.68}, {"text": "um or I'm sorry the renter will know exactly what those rules are prior to", "start": 3927.68, "end": 3932.72}, {"text": "deciding to rent um and additionally uh I I also wanted to make sure we have consensus on U making sure that in the", "start": 3932.72, "end": 3939.599}, {"text": "advertisement for the property it does state that we that the property is in a residential", "start": 3939.599, "end": 3945.96}, {"text": "neighborhood can you answer that Jason I'm sorry yes I can but um vice mayor we", "start": 3946.92, "end": 3952.359}, {"text": "couldn't hear the end of your statement I just wanted to make sure that we also", "start": 3952.359, "end": 3957.4}, {"text": "have consensus um because I I didn't hear that we got that um to to make sure that the the in the property um", "start": 3957.4, "end": 3964.24}, {"text": "advertisement it does state that it's in a residential neighborhood in a residential neighborhood yes um so in", "start": 3964.24, "end": 3973.599}, {"text": "section believe it's 1768 n there's a section on advertising", "start": 3976.599, "end": 3983.839}, {"text": "and it says any advertising of the short-term vacation rental unit shall conform to information included in the", "start": 3983.839, "end": 3990.319}, {"text": "short-term vacation rental certificate and the properties approval particularly as it pertains to ma maximum occupancy", "start": 3990.319, "end": 3997.559}, {"text": "so all of the items that are in the approval approval section have to", "start": 3997.559, "end": 4005.039}, {"text": "be included in the advertising which would include you know the majority of the rules we'll review those to make", "start": 4005.039, "end": 4010.359}, {"text": "sure we captured uh this discussion okay yeah I think it needs to be added that", "start": 4010.359, "end": 4015.76}, {"text": "um whatever whatever um High Lev language we need to add to stay that in", "start": 4015.76, "end": 4020.96}, {"text": "that advertisement also has to be the rules that are posted per this ordinance inside the", "start": 4020.96, "end": 4028.039}, {"text": "property got yes ma'am Jas we have consensus on that yes sir yep okay", "start": 4029.319, "end": 4034.64}, {"text": "you're good Ray um any more discussion on the matter so uh can I get uh", "start": 4034.64, "end": 4043.64}, {"text": "consensus to move forward Mr Duffy with with going up forward so the next", "start": 4043.64, "end": 4048.96}, {"text": "read will be the first read will be when Jason um next Tuesday December the 17th we'll update the ordinance uh to your", "start": 4048.96, "end": 4056.799}, {"text": "requested changes we have all those notes uh set up and uh then uh we'll", "start": 4056.799, "end": 4062.119}, {"text": "plan for a second read on January 7th I believe 7th January uh", "start": 4062.119, "end": 4069.839}, {"text": "which will also come back with the fee resolution as well um we have a good", "start": 4069.839, "end": 4075.559}, {"text": "pretty good idea on what that fee is going to be we're just uh fine-tuning the numbers okay and we we're hoping to have", "start": 4075.559, "end": 4083.119}, {"text": "this as a city ordinance by March of 2025 we yeah we would start we need to", "start": 4083.119, "end": 4088.88}, {"text": "um complete out complete building out our processes once the ordinance is complete so we make sure we the", "start": 4088.88, "end": 4095.68}, {"text": "application has everything that's intended to be included in it and then we will start registering folks uh with", "start": 4095.68, "end": 4101.679}, {"text": "a March 3rd that's first Monday in March um start date and U Mr Duffy you'll go through and", "start": 4101.679, "end": 4108.798}, {"text": "make sure that we're dotting our eyes and crossing our te's everything street legal okay thank may I make one more", "start": 4108.799, "end": 4115.04}, {"text": "quick suggestion real quick sir okay just for people like my daughter probably talking", "start": 4115.04, "end": 4121.08}, {"text": "for 200 people that don't live in their home but they live real close they", "start": 4121.08, "end": 4126.159}, {"text": "monitor that the Airbnb background check would also be sufficient for a resident", "start": 4126.159, "end": 4131.4}, {"text": "of Palm Coast that we we've already we've already covered that sir that's been covered okay uh we're going to close", "start": 4131.4, "end": 4138.6}, {"text": "we're going to close this item and move on to the next um next presentation a", "start": 4138.6, "end": 4143.758}, {"text": "donation of Knights of Columbus uh not uh not notame", "start": 4143.759, "end": 4150.278}, {"text": "Council yes uh mayor and city council this is requested to be on your agenda today after a request was received from", "start": 4150.279, "end": 4156.758}, {"text": "the Knights of Columbus I believe uh council member gambaro requested this item uh be heard and uh Chief Barry Hill", "start": 4156.759, "end": 4164.238}, {"text": "is going to give the presentation this", "start": 4164.239, "end": 4168.838}, {"text": "morning thank you guys for", "start": 4177.679, "end": 4181.4}, {"text": "coming good morning mayor and Council Kyle Berry Hill Palm Coast fire department um I just want to give you a", "start": 4182.759, "end": 4188.56}, {"text": "quick overview of this uh you requested this item be workshopped it's something we've been working together with a wonderful community group um for uh", "start": 4188.56, "end": 4196.6}, {"text": "almost a year now uh to bring this uh to light and in the news this week uh there", "start": 4196.6, "end": 4202.159}, {"text": "was an event in a surrounding County um where a child was discovered abandoned", "start": 4202.159, "end": 4207.4}, {"text": "on the side of the road and this is intended to help prevent situations like that from occurring uh that's the idea", "start": 4207.4, "end": 4214.48}, {"text": "behind this project um so in 2000 Florida enacted the safe haven law um", "start": 4214.48, "end": 4220.52}, {"text": "and what that does is it provides uh it's to prevent the abandonment of newborns so provides a safety net for um", "start": 4220.52, "end": 4227.8}, {"text": "families uh who um don't know what to do when they're in a situation where they have a newborn net that they're just not", "start": 4227.8, "end": 4234.239}, {"text": "prepared for um and so by state law um any safe haven facility which includes", "start": 4234.239, "end": 4240.12}, {"text": "police stations and fire stations this is in action today um are places where um a a person could could 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barrier right again they're just they're", "start": 4285.48, "end": 4291.4}, {"text": "just looking to uh provide uh ways for for newborns to be safe uh in our country so now there are safe haven baby", "start": 4291.4, "end": 4298.96}, {"text": "box installed in 15 states um it's a safe and legal Anonymous way to surrender a child um and in January of", "start": 4298.96, "end": 4306.32}, {"text": "2023 there was a baby Sav in oala and actually one of the firefighters that was first on seene end up adopting that", "start": 4306.32, "end": 4312.92}, {"text": "child it's a pretty great story um and so so 43 babies have been surrendered in baby boxes um the way it the way uh", "start": 4312.92, "end": 4320.52}, {"text": "actually we'll get to that in just a second so the kns of Columbus approached us we've worked with the Knights of Columbus Notre Dame Council number 10514", "start": 4320.52, "end": 4328.199}, {"text": "of the Santa Maria Delmar Catholic Church in Flagler Beach they're a 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a child can put in um The Proposal is to install this box at fire station 25 the Knights of Columbus", "start": 4409.28, "end": 4416.159}, {"text": "believes this is the centralized location in the county is part of why this is be a good place it would be the", "start": 4416.159, "end": 4421.52}, {"text": "fir and then they would provide Safe Haven baby box would provide training um the Knights of Columbus would sign a", "start": 4421.52, "end": 4427.28}, {"text": "there's a little bit of uh things for us to figure out here um about how the lease agreement would be signed um but", "start": 4427.28, "end": 4434.32}, {"text": "kns of colus have already worked with Culver construction and are prepared that Their donation would meet the cost", "start": 4434.32, "end": 4440.199}, {"text": "of the of the construction part of why you would do a lease is so that way um you continue to", "start": 4440.199, "end": 4446.4}, {"text": "provide for the maintenance associated with the baby box so that that way uh you know we were never in a situation", "start": 4446.4, "end": 4452.36}, {"text": "where it wasn't a very safe and appropriate thing for um a child in our community um so the budget uh for", "start": 4452.36, "end": 4459.12}, {"text": "purchase and shipping construction the annual fee of $500 um is just under $40,000 and then the there's an annual", "start": 4459.12, "end": 4465.52}, {"text": "renewal fee of $500 we could talk about that but we would absorb that in our budget uh going forward but the Nights", "start": 4465.52, "end": 4471}, {"text": "of Columbus proposed to donate the cost of purchas and installation um so then", "start": 4471, "end": 4476.08}, {"text": "if we have consensus that this is a good project um there's two options for", "start": 4476.08, "end": 4481.159}, {"text": "moving forward and and both have um benefits and um uh you know other things", "start": 4481.159, "end": 4489.28}, {"text": "so one of the ways and what the kns of Columbus is 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{"text": "sure any discussion Council uh yes Mr Mayor yeah I just wanted to say thank", "start": 4571.679, "end": 4578.08}, {"text": "you um this is a great thing and and so I want to express my appreciation if this saves one life um it's well worth", "start": 4578.08, "end": 4585.199}, {"text": "it um and so just wanted to say that um and then I don't know if we want to", "start": 4585.199, "end": 4590.88}, {"text": "discuss uh the management portion of that any sure yeah I I'd just like to", "start": 4590.88, "end": 4596.92}, {"text": "say uh Chief thank you for the presentation and to the gentlemen that are here from the Knights of Columbus it's great to see you and uh the you", "start": 4596.92, "end": 4604.679}, {"text": "guys have been working extremely hard over the last two years and and and problem solving to make this happen so", "start": 4604.679, "end": 4610.92}, {"text": "thank you for your leadership and and you know Public Safety is our number one priority and this is this extends that", "start": 4610.92, "end": 4618.239}, {"text": "down to um you know some some of our youngest members of the community um so", "start": 4618.239, "end": 4623.48}, {"text": "thank you for your leadership this is a great example of how um public private or even nonprofit partnership uh can", "start": 4623.48, "end": 4630.88}, {"text": "come together to to make it to make it work and and uh and the fact that it's", "start": 4630.88, "end": 4636.44}, {"text": "not going to essentially cost too much for the city I mean the brunt of the funds are going to come from donations", "start": 4636.44, "end": 4642.239}, {"text": "raised by the Knights of Columbus uh and the petual maintenance of it uh for the out years I think it's just fantastic so", "start": 4642.239, "end": 4649}, {"text": "really thank thank you all for for doing this tresa do you have", "start": 4649, "end": 4654.56}, {"text": "anything I do thank you um I I'll echo my fellow colleagues comments on the", "start": 4654.56, "end": 4659.8}, {"text": "gratitude for working towards this um of course my family law brain goes to um", "start": 4659.8, "end": 4665.52}, {"text": "the the Child Safety aspect of this so I had a few questions um my first question", "start": 4665.52, "end": 4670.84}, {"text": "is who assumes liability of a child once it is aband abandoned and then once", "start": 4670.84, "end": 4677}, {"text": "abandoned are there is is it is it legally clear that that parent has now", "start": 4677, "end": 4683.32}, {"text": "um forfeited their parental rights um and then is there any signage on these", "start": 4683.32, "end": 4688.639}, {"text": "baby boxes with regards to that because the last thing that I would want is to see us in our efforts to do a good deed", "start": 4688.639, "end": 4695.639}, {"text": "wrapped up in any litigation with the parent that may be puts their child in in one of these um situations and then", "start": 4695.639, "end": 4702.719}, {"text": "comes back tries to reclaim the child or anything of that nature yes ma'am um so some of this is", "start": 4702.719, "end": 4711.76}, {"text": "uh We've definitely run this proposal um by Marcus through the city attorney and", "start": 4711.76, "end": 4719.199}, {"text": "uh we believe that we are within the same risk profile that we are in as a", "start": 4719.199, "end": 4725.88}, {"text": "safe haven based on the 2000 law um with this box we don't believe that this is increasing the risk profile uh in a way", "start": 4725.88, "end": 4733.88}, {"text": "you know the nature of of being in our business is the Assumption of risk um and so yes there is some liability", "start": 4733.88, "end": 4740.6}, {"text": "Associated uh here and some of the questions that you have uh I don't have exactly easy answers to um but we", "start": 4740.6, "end": 4747.88}, {"text": "believe that this is a situation where the potential benefit outweighs the potential liability or that would be I", "start": 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that we do not manage but was very interested in doing that assessment with us so we certainly uh", "start": 7190.239, "end": 7197.159}, {"text": "could move forward with that in Q2 or at a later time if this Council was interested in", "start": 7197.159, "end": 7203.679}, {"text": "that so that was all the information I had for you today hopefully I didn't go through that too quickly but I'm very", "start": 7203.679, "end": 7209.119}, {"text": "open to answering any questions or just Gathering any information you have for me thank you Laura", "start": 7209.119, "end": 7215.48}, {"text": "any any comments from the Das got anything Mr", "start": 7215.48, "end": 7220.8}, {"text": "hurse uh no um I think it's a it can be a great partnership um there are some", "start": 7220.8, "end": 7227.04}, {"text": "areas that we do well and there's some areas that the USDA can help us out as well okay and is it going to be finished", "start": 7227.04, "end": 7233.119}, {"text": "by the end of the year we we're coming up on a hard yeah it's on as Laura said it is on time uh for the courts is that", "start": 7233.119, "end": 7239}, {"text": "is that is that what you're referencing yeah yeah they're a lot of work going on out there yesterday so um thank you", "start": 7239, "end": 7246.079}, {"text": "Laura I appreciate your time and and hope to see you soon my pleasure Mr", "start": 7246.079, "end": 7251.119}, {"text": "Mayor sorry uh point of order so this matter should still go up to public comment I'm going to I'm sorry and no", "start": 7251.119, "end": 7257.88}, {"text": "and I was just going to say the last two items we didn't do that so for this just say public no no that's my fault not", "start": 7257.88, "end": 7263.079}, {"text": "reminding you no I realized I messed up I should have let the public comment on that n of Columbus so I'll open this up", "start": 7263.079, "end": 7270.04}, {"text": "for a public comment do I have any anyone that would like to publicly 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{"text": "business to somebody else there are consequences and we need to look at those carefully we'll wait for the", "start": 7471.559, "end": 7477.76}, {"text": "assessment we'll be talking to you again I'm sure yes thank you Miss Lightfoot uh", "start": 7477.76, "end": 7483.96}, {"text": "Nikki thank you so much good morning my name is Mary ralson", "start": 7483.96, "end": 7490.88}, {"text": "and I am a true pickle ball player I don't care anything about tennis I love pickle ball I need to know", "start": 7490.88, "end": 7498.559}, {"text": "what they're going to do with the courts are they going to continue to run the programs as well as James Hurston his", "start": 7498.559, "end": 7505.04}, {"text": "group has always done are we going to have all our uh tournaments and latter leagues and are they going to maintain", "start": 7505.04, "end": 7511.84}, {"text": "the courts as well or they going to focus strictly on nothing but tennis", "start": 7511.84, "end": 7517.599}, {"text": "tournaments and not do anything for pickleball pickleball is a lot bigger you have more pickle", "start": 7517.599, "end": 7524.92}, {"text": "ball um members at the at the southern Rec Center than you do tennis you need", "start": 7524.92, "end": 7531.28}, {"text": "to pay a lot more attention to pickle ball than you do tennis I get tennis is an old sport but you're not keeping up", "start": 7531.28, "end": 7538.159}, {"text": "with maintenance on tennis courts at Holland Park Bel te uh none of those courts are being maintained at all you", "start": 7538.159, "end": 7545.04}, {"text": "need to start focusing on those as well if you're not going to if you're going to let tennis run pickle ball then then", "start": 7545.04, "end": 7551.719}, {"text": "you're going to run a lot of pickleball players out of the Southern Rec Center thank you thank you", "start": 7551.719, "end": 7558.84}, {"text": "ma'am good morning my name is Kim cillo I am a pickle ball player also I am part of a 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okay uh with and we are just getting started with this whole facility", "start": 8198.281, "end": 8205.28}, {"text": "and and working out and I know some people are reluctant uh to making any", "start": 8205.281, "end": 8210.319}, {"text": "agreements so and someone voiced that concern last night to me but we are not at that we are not that at that stage", "start": 8210.32, "end": 8217.598}, {"text": "yet we are not there yet so um more to come on this one right James yes correct", "start": 8217.599, "end": 8223.359}, {"text": "all right thank you sir um we're going to move on to uh Craig's presentation on", "start": 8223.36, "end": 8230.319}, {"text": "economic development 2024 updates yes thank you mayor while um Mr", "start": 8230.32, "end": 8236.04}, {"text": "mckin is coming to the presentation table very similar in context with with", "start": 8236.04, "end": 8241.28}, {"text": "um giving you an update on the sbdc efforts we also wanted to give you an", "start": 8241.281, "end": 8247.319}, {"text": "update on our Economic Development efforts uh loop in a little bit of um", "start": 8247.32, "end": 8253.04}, {"text": "next steps and look for your direction as I know this is a priority and focus", "start": 8253.04, "end": 8258.598}, {"text": "area for all of you uh mayor and city council thank you laen Craig have about", "start": 8258.599, "end": 8264.518}, {"text": "it brother", "start": 8264.519, "end": 8267.678}, {"text": "all right again uh Craig mckenny economic development manager city of Palm Coast and again good morning Mary", "start": 8279.599, "end": 8286.24}, {"text": "Norris members of the city council and guests today I'm excited uh to present", "start": 8286.24, "end": 8291.638}, {"text": "an overview of our Economic Development efforts in Palm Coast in 2024 highlighting recent accomplishments", "start": 8291.639, "end": 8298.399}, {"text": "ongoing initiatives and future opportunities as we turn the corner into the new year and with a new", 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"couple questions uh mayor um Craig how are we working with our commercial Realtors on the website accessibility", "start": 9560.56, "end": 9568.72}, {"text": "and interactivity um and if we're not yet are is that something that's in the", "start": 9568.72, "end": 9574.24}, {"text": "pipeline uh I think you're referring to and just stop me if I'm wrong uh the the", "start": 9574.24, "end": 9580.8}, {"text": "tech glitches uh that were in place when I arrived here and I was importing that new property listing", "start": 9580.8, "end": 9586.04}, {"text": "page no I'm not referring to anything in particular I just want to make sure that um basically fcar can talk to us and and", "start": 9586.04, "end": 9594.92}, {"text": "to the website and that it's accessible and whatever way we'll work with them so that they can help us Market these", "start": 9594.92, "end": 9601.56}, {"text": "properties so a lot to unpack there I'll try to keep it brief uh I'm not working directly with fcar but I'm 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need from you Craig and I and I", "start": 9692.6, "end": 9698.96}, {"text": "guess what we need from you is to know what you need from us what do you", "start": 9698.96, "end": 9704.84}, {"text": "need from us to be in our sap and what's the price tag associated with it uh in addition to that what is the ROI that", "start": 9704.84, "end": 9711.279}, {"text": "we're looking at I mean are we talk I know you and I have talked at nauseum about the necessity for sites and", "start": 9711.279, "end": 9716.72}, {"text": "buildings and as a plug even though people don't like to hear it this is why the westward expansion is so important", "start": 9716.72, "end": 9723.24}, {"text": "we are out of land in Palm Coast 1.0 that is just the facts we are out of", "start": 9723.24, "end": 9728.399}, {"text": "land we are never going to diversify our tax base um if we do if we do not expand", "start": 9728.399, "end": 9734.88}, {"text": "West and allow for more commercial property to come into play 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"end": 9779.04}, {"text": "to what are the top three things that we can do to improve our economic development in the next two years the", "start": 9779.04, "end": 9785.16}, {"text": "next 5 years in the next 10 years what's the price tag associated with that and what's the ROI because we need to we as", "start": 9785.16, "end": 9791.92}, {"text": "Council need to be able to budget to invest in the economic development of", "start": 9791.92, "end": 9797}, {"text": "Palm Coast okay uh so thank you right and a lot to unpack there uh I'll try to", "start": 9797, "end": 9802.64}, {"text": "keep it uh concise uh absolutely right uh the main problem is that we are", "start": 9802.64, "end": 9808.279}, {"text": "landlocked right now and so with that we're really trying to come through uh", "start": 9808.279, "end": 9814.04}, {"text": "uh very much trying to come through you know what can we produce within the current map", "start": 9814.04, "end": 9819.96}, {"text": "borders uh in terms of uh uh what I need uh uh from you uh you know simply right", "start": 9819.96, "end": 9829.56}, {"text": "we've got to put our heads together and you know really figure out you know", "start": 9829.56, "end": 9834.68}, {"text": "either land uh and our existing map that we can convert or acquire other land", "start": 9834.68, "end": 9841.88}, {"text": "whatever that looks like uh that's where I need the help uh on that note right so", "start": 9841.88, "end": 9847.52}, {"text": "what I need is sides and buildings right uh but on that note I really do want to stress um and and this isn't just for", "start": 9847.52, "end": 9854.16}, {"text": "the sake of saying it that in order to get where we want to go there is a", "start": 9854.16, "end": 9859.279}, {"text": "quality aspect to sites and buildings it's about that strategic location it's about that access to 95 right it's about", "start": 9859.279, "end": 9867.24}, {"text": "having the utilities ready to go uh and you know if if if we fall 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take months", "start": 10078.319, "end": 10084.68}, {"text": "right uh for that uh for that solution uh to come online as it relates to site", "start": 10084.68, "end": 10090.04}, {"text": "prep utilities Etc uh and while I am a big believer in", "start": 10090.04, "end": 10096.24}, {"text": "the saying that opportunities are like buses with one's leaving town and another one's pulling up you know the", "start": 10096.24, "end": 10101.68}, {"text": "truth is is that we have missed a tremendous amount of opportunity uh as it relates to projects", "start": 10101.68, "end": 10108.24}, {"text": "coming to the State of Florida and on our Focus right uh of advanced manufacturing but especially in that", "start": 10108.24, "end": 10115}, {"text": "Aviation Aerospace defense sector I don't want to call I don't want to say that there's that the", "start": 10115, "end": 10120.64}, {"text": "opportunities are finite uh but it is a different sector right it's high capex and a small amount of 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skilled uh uh jobs that they're providing for the community so I'm not", "start": 10330.84, "end": 10337.6}, {"text": "sure what incentive they they they put forward um um but you know with the consensus of the board I", "start": 10337.6, "end": 10343.6}, {"text": "think it'd be interesting to kind of Benchmark to see what Bard County did given the the space that they had uh to", "start": 10343.6, "end": 10350.6}, {"text": "to be able to bring those kind of manufacturing jobs uh into their community and then you know how they", "start": 10350.6, "end": 10355.8}, {"text": "tied that Workforce Development that Pipeline with with um you know the local you know educational institutions um and", "start": 10355.8, "end": 10362.96}, {"text": "so I think that's incredibly important and then uh you know to Echo the vice mayor's comments I think you you know we", "start": 10362.96, "end": 10369.319}, {"text": "only have so much land and we've got to um we've got to look at these these other options but always always always", "start": 10369.319, "end": 10375.319}, {"text": "you know it's got to be what's the best interest of the city not not anybody else you know the citizen so um thanks", "start": 10375.319, "end": 10381.399}, {"text": "for all your work to doing there look forward to collaborating with you yes sir thank you very much me too Ray you got", "start": 10381.399, "end": 10388.56}, {"text": "anything yeah just uh out of curiosity how much to your knowledge", "start": 10388.56, "end": 10394.64}, {"text": "property is available in Hard Grove grave not a bit uh not much but uh on that", "start": 10394.64, "end": 10404.2}, {"text": "note we actually have a meeting uh coming up regarding uh a site at the end", "start": 10404.2, "end": 10409.52}, {"text": "of harrove grade uh that we haven't had yet so uh not quite sure how that's going to play out uh but I reached out", "start": 10409.52, "end": 10416.72}, {"text": "to a senior VP of jlll who was uh repping the 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{"text": "toolbox councilman gambaro mentioned incentives and and how different areas", "start": 10559.479, "end": 10564.88}, {"text": "were able to bring in not having that is um definitely kind of having one arm", "start": 10564.88, "end": 10570.319}, {"text": "time behind our back here in terms of uh comparisons between us and other areas", "start": 10570.319, "end": 10575.479}, {"text": "so um you know for everybody out there that that wants more um Economic", "start": 10575.479, "end": 10580.6}, {"text": "Development commercial to ease the tax burden um for Citizens um understand", "start": 10580.6, "end": 10586.319}, {"text": "that this is this is something that we need as a city in order to go forward uh with these types of", "start": 10586.319, "end": 10592.52}, {"text": "Partnerships and on that note real quick uh I had produced a document uh that I", "start": 10592.52, "end": 10598.6}, {"text": "didn't quite get uh the way I wanted it to I'm kind of a perfectionist uh but you 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and buildings up online and and seizing the", "start": 10644.12, "end": 10652.12}, {"text": "opportunity okay um just for all of us here uh Teresa you", "start": 10652.6, "end": 10659.279}, {"text": "still there right Teresa I am mayor I apologize for all on", "start": 10659.279, "end": 10666.52}, {"text": "mute but uh yeah I I here okay we had that we've had this conversation before the election uh I I am aware that we're", "start": 10666.52, "end": 10674.239}, {"text": "going to have to amend uh the charter to allow for high higher borrowing power", "start": 10674.239, "end": 10679.84}, {"text": "because of inflation we need to equate for that and we do need that P3 uh Partnerships so I think we can uh we", "start": 10679.84, "end": 10686.439}, {"text": "need to start looking forward City Manager on trying to facilitate that in the future uh maybe not in the inter but", "start": 10686.439, "end": 10693.319}, {"text": "you know going forward um so sites and buildings sites and", "start": 10693.319, "end": 10699.359}, {"text": "building Craig he's he's preaching that we have a meeting this afternoon I think 3 p.m. with stakeholders within the", "start": 10699.359, "end": 10705.84}, {"text": "community some of the major property owners and we have to sell hey we need", "start": 10705.84, "end": 10711.52}, {"text": "these properties to bring Industries in here so that's what we're going to be pushing for today at 1:00 that's why we", "start": 10711.52, "end": 10717.8}, {"text": "need to get out of here before 1:00 I have a meeting with uh someone that wants to do business in the city and and", "start": 10717.8, "end": 10724.08}, {"text": "it's hard for me to go to them and say Hey I want you to do business in our city but I don't have land for you that's an issue and these people are be", "start": 10724.08, "end": 10731.8}, {"text": "going to be accompanied by an international uh newspaper to interview me and talk about our city and bring an", "start": 10731.8, "end": 10738.2}, {"text": "industry in here so we need to focus on getting sites and buildings sites and buildings and um uh track 17 is is an", "start": 10738.2, "end": 10746.72}, {"text": "excellent we'll be having that discussion today um what's that address for astrad on har grve Craig you know to", "start": 10746.72, "end": 10754.279}, {"text": "yes about the address yeah uh I believe it's 15 har grve if I'm wrong it's 18", "start": 10754.279, "end": 10760.399}, {"text": "about I think it's 15 hard gr okay I went out there yesterday to visit a building that I actually worked on with", "start": 10760.399, "end": 10766.2}, {"text": "my business when it was when it was framed out the gentleman that built the building asked me to come out and", "start": 10766.2, "end": 10771.6}, {"text": "pressure clean all the uh all the IE beams for the for the frame of the building and I did it I spent like eight", "start": 10771.6, "end": 10777.12}, {"text": "hours on a lift pressure cleaning that building uh yesterday I went out there to visit uh Mario from uh King's", "start": 10777.12, "end": 10783.92}, {"text": "automotive detailing that building is phenomenal it's it's been uh section off", "start": 10783.92, "end": 10789.96}, {"text": "he's got his shop with a rollup door and the the building looks great and that's", "start": 10789.96, "end": 10796.04}, {"text": "small businesses working together you know uh the gentleman John built the", "start": 10796.04, "end": 10801.12}, {"text": "building he asked me to come in and pressure pressure wash the ey beams for him uh he he floored it out rented it", "start": 10801.12, "end": 10808.56}, {"text": "out now you got these businesses in there that are trying to get up and running and I'm going to be doing that every week trying to Spotlight a new", "start": 10808.56, "end": 10815.239}, {"text": "business in the community trying to give them show them some love but we have we have to lean forward", "start": 10815.239, "end": 10821.72}, {"text": "specifically on the P3 being able to do p3s increasing our borrowing limit for", "start": 10821.72, "end": 10826.76}, {"text": "um uh just to equate for inflation um like I said I'm meeting with the stake", "start": 10826.76, "end": 10832.72}, {"text": "we're meeting with the stakeholders today Craig um and I'm meeting with someone that wants to do business in our our city so we have to do everything", "start": 10832.72, "end": 10839.68}, {"text": "possible to bring jobs and Industry in this community and specifically uh develop our Workforce", "start": 10839.68, "end": 10846.72}, {"text": "and our K have our kids to have somewhere to work when they come out of high school if they're not you know if", "start": 10846.72, "end": 10851.8}, {"text": "they're not moving out of the area so um I'm excited I'm excited and I'm ready for us to get to work um any more", "start": 10851.8, "end": 10859.399}, {"text": "discussion from the Das I I just want to reiterate that that's why I brought up Hard Grove grave it's there roads are in", "start": 10859.399, "end": 10868.2}, {"text": "most of it is cleared um that's why I was inquiring as", "start": 10868.2, "end": 10873.68}, {"text": "to how much acreage is there and what kind of buildings could be put up up but and then it is conveniently located it's", "start": 10873.68, "end": 10881.239}, {"text": "very close to one you could you could go to 95 North you don't have to go through", "start": 10881.239, "end": 10886.56}, {"text": "Palm Coast on uh on Palm Coast Parkway which is already overcrowded and you can", "start": 10886.56, "end": 10892.2}, {"text": "go south towards uh Orman Beach etc etc so that that's why I thought that that was uh a good starting a good starting", "start": 10892.2, "end": 10900.359}, {"text": "point for for for land and buildings there I I took a picture of a for Cale", "start": 10900.359, "end": 10905.68}, {"text": "sign out there too and it says Industrial on and Craig it's it's more west of the 25 address but it's being", "start": 10905.68, "end": 10912.96}, {"text": "listed by um um the last name is Rose and it's team toold t f l i don't know", "start": 10912.96, "end": 10921.279}, {"text": "maybe you could do some research on that site too so send it over my way I'm happy to research it absolutely yes sir", "start": 10921.279, "end": 10926.8}, {"text": "okay uh I'll open any any more comments Ju Just one other comment right uh uh", "start": 10926.8, "end": 10934.359}, {"text": "cman Stevens I can't remember exactly what you just said that kind of triggered it uh but you know what I mean we are in a good position right the uh", "start": 10934.359, "end": 10942.96}, {"text": "busiest interstate on the east coast of the United States Cuts right through us uh we're anchored uh by a fantastic", "start": 10942.96, "end": 10950.6}, {"text": "Beach we got a high quality of life here and we're in the hot bed of the aviation", "start": 10950.6, "end": 10956}, {"text": "arrow and defense industry uh so you know what we got a lot of built-in selling points that a lot of communities", "start": 10956, "end": 10962.6}, {"text": "you know uh would chop off their arm to have assets like we have but we got to", "start": 10962.6, "end": 10967.72}, {"text": "get get those sites and buildings up and capitalize on it full court press full court press um yeah just um mayor I'm", "start": 10967.72, "end": 10975.68}, {"text": "sorry I just have one more comment um and I I just want to leave um Craig you with this I I agree uh with your last", "start": 10975.68, "end": 10981.92}, {"text": "comment there mayor full court press definitely we have to we have to Parlay this though into sap how are we going to", "start": 10981.92, "end": 10990.72}, {"text": "make Economic Development a strategic action priority and what does that look", "start": 10990.72, "end": 10996.479}, {"text": "like from a financial stand point because we cannot we can't you know formulate our budget without knowing", "start": 10996.479, "end": 11002.56}, {"text": "what this investment is going to cost and we don't know what that cost is going to be and what those both", "start": 11002.56, "end": 11007.84}, {"text": "short-term and long-term plays are without suggestions from our expert on this which is Craig so you know this is", "start": 11007.84, "end": 11015.6}, {"text": "a great presentation and I'm I'm glad we had it obviously have some great stuff but we need action items and we need", "start": 11015.6, "end": 11021.52}, {"text": "dollars associated with those action items so that's what I'll look forward to from staff as we get into our sap yes", "start": 11021.52, "end": 11027.6}, {"text": "ma'am okay thank you Teresa um nothing else from the DI I'll open up for public comments Steve you got anything to say", "start": 11027.6, "end": 11034.84}, {"text": "Steve had oh I guess he does come on up", "start": 11034.84, "end": 11039.64}, {"text": "Stevie Steve Carr pal Co this was a great uh discussion and and I looks like", "start": 11040.439, "end": 11047.8}, {"text": "the city's headed in the right direction and I love the questions y'all are asking and I love I really did like the", "start": 11047.8, "end": 11054.8}, {"text": "presentation that it's gotten us to look into the proper proper way to go and", "start": 11054.8, "end": 11061.96}, {"text": "what direction we really need to go so I want to say I'm I'm impressed with it", "start": 11061.96, "end": 11067.16}, {"text": "thank you thank you Steve okay we're going to close that that that item is", "start": 11067.16, "end": 11072.479}, {"text": "done we're going to move the uh echo6 or E6 city manager yes thank you mayor and", "start": 11072.479, "end": 11078.6}, {"text": "city council um City attorney Mr Duffy is going to present to you your city", "start": 11078.6, "end": 11083.88}, {"text": "council policies and procedures This was um discussed at your meeting on November", "start": 11083.88, "end": 11090.16}, {"text": "19th uh staff is here to um take any direction on any changes that you would", "start": 11090.16, "end": 11096.68}, {"text": "like to see in your upcoming uh policies and procedures okay before you move", "start": 11096.68, "end": 11101.84}, {"text": "forward Mr Duffy uh Teresa uh are you going to be able to stay on the line because I may have to leave before the", "start": 11101.84, "end": 11107.359}, {"text": "end of the meeting I am yes I'll be here okay thank you Mr Mayor just a point of order if", "start": 11107.359, "end": 11114}, {"text": "you do have to leave before the meeting Miss pontier would be able to chair the meeting because she's not here", "start": 11114, "end": 11119.72}, {"text": "physically so it would go to the next senior uh council member which would be council member that's fine just want to", "start": 11119.72, "end": 11125.96}, {"text": "make sure we're on that's fine as long as I can get to that meeting because I'm I'm really excited about talking to those", "start": 11125.96, "end": 11131.6}, {"text": "folks all right make sure I'm doing this right I apologize if I screw anything up", "start": 11131.6, "end": 11138.359}, {"text": "all right I think we're good to go all right so uh City attorney Mark stuffy here putting some uh presentations on as", "start": 11138.359, "end": 11144.399}, {"text": "directed by city council for like uh policies and procedures so this is just a little update and kind of get", "start": 11144.399, "end": 11150.08}, {"text": "direction on where you as a council would like to go with your own uh policies and procedures so this is kind", "start": 11150.08, "end": 11156.12}, {"text": "of the items we're discussing just governing the rules UH responsibilities and roles in meetings and then rules of", "start": 11156.12, "end": 11161.88}, {"text": "debate uh business meeting workshops agenda and then updating these policies so these are how the rules are", "start": 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in the E yeah yes sir", "start": 11652.68, "end": 11657.76}, {"text": "what about you Teresa you good with that that's fine mayor all right thank you all right we're good Marcus carry", "start": 11657.76, "end": 11664.359}, {"text": "on and then the next one so special meeting so in your uh policy procedures it says SE in this section uh a special", "start": 11664.359, "end": 11672.319}, {"text": "meeting a special meeting of the city council may be called by the city manager the mayor or by a majority of", "start": 11672.319, "end": 11677.399}, {"text": "the members of a city council at a city council meeting so uh it would be my", "start": 11677.399, "end": 11682.96}, {"text": "recommendation to delete that last part at a city council meeting for if a majority of members feel like they need", "start": 11682.96, "end": 11689.319}, {"text": "to call a special meeting it doesn't have to be done at a special at a a council meeting cuz in that situation uh", "start": 11689.319, "end": 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then", "start": 11769.04, "end": 11775.84}, {"text": "this is the last last part it was just based on qu uh prior discussions with you guys uh discussion about current", "start": 11775.84, "end": 11783.319}, {"text": "gend PR I believe that there was some type of uh brought up about proclamations being at certain times uh", "start": 11783.319, "end": 11789.399}, {"text": "the times of the meetings uh Wards and any other things I had this in the area for uh we could add stuff or uh this is", "start": 11789.399, "end": 11798.12}, {"text": "just discussion it's just that do we want to add anything do uh this is where you can say we'd like to add a fourth", "start": 11798.12, "end": 11803.64}, {"text": "meeting something like that so not putting words in your mouth just remember what our discussions were you", "start": 11803.64, "end": 11809.64}, {"text": "done you done yes sir so what what the suggest suggestion of the the previous", "start": 11809.64, "end": 11816.16}, {"text": "Council 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blindsided with I", "start": 12163.12, "end": 12171.399}, {"text": "mean sometimes hundreds of pages of current dris that we are then expected", "start": 12171.399, "end": 12177.319}, {"text": "to consume make changes on the spot to the ordinance and then bring back for a", "start": 12177.319, "end": 12183.199}, {"text": "second read it's my opinion that these items are too important for our city especially as we move west and so", "start": 12183.199, "end": 12190.6}, {"text": "anything in my opinion that comes before us from a development standpoint where", "start": 12190.6, "end": 12196.16}, {"text": "they asking for any type of variance that is not already included so if", "start": 12196.16, "end": 12201.279}, {"text": "they're trying to change residential to commercial if they're trying to increase residential units um density anything", "start": 12201.279, "end": 12208.84}, {"text": "like that any type of requested change needs to be workshopped by this Council", "start": 12208.84, "end": 12214.16}, {"text": "prior to going to an ordinance first read okay uh the bottom line is then", "start": 12214.16, "end": 12221.12}, {"text": "we're the intention here is to increase the number of meetings from three to", "start": 12221.12, "end": 12226.72}, {"text": "four a month period am I am I correct in that", "start": 12226.72, "end": 12232.76}, {"text": "assumption yes that's correct yes but it gives us more time to take care of um", "start": 12232.76, "end": 12239.56}, {"text": "City issues Mr Mayor um if I can comment I would look at it like if we are", "start": 12239.56, "end": 12245.92}, {"text": "accomplishing 20 hours of work with three meetings so we're going to be here for six and a half hours each meeting we", "start": 12245.92, "end": 12251.72}, {"text": "had the fourth it's spreading that out a little bit more so we're not here for a long period of time there's certain", "start": 12251.72, "end": 12258.16}, {"text": "fatigue that sets in people make less good decisions when you've been sitting here for six or seven hours um it it", "start": 12258.16, "end": 12264.08}, {"text": "just makes it easier on everybody I think instead of having these Marathon sessions so uh not more time just spread", "start": 12264.08, "end": 12271.239}, {"text": "out a little bit more okay so we we have consensus well", "start": 12271.239, "end": 12278.72}, {"text": "we have enough to proceed anyway so we'll move forward with that are we good Marcus we just want to make sure we get", "start": 12278.72, "end": 12285.12}, {"text": "direction you want a fourth Workshop okay at night at 6 p.m. at 6 p.m. okay", "start": 12285.12, "end": 12291.04}, {"text": "two and two um uh let's pause for a second I'm I'm going to have to leave uh", "start": 12291.04, "end": 12296.439}, {"text": "these are two things that and you have enough people to vote and make a decision on whatever you want to do uh", "start": 12296.439, "end": 12302.6}, {"text": "but discussions 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"city business um so so I just so that I'm clear on the", "start": 12388.08, "end": 12394}, {"text": "direction you would like us to revise the ordinance for setting your meeting", "start": 12394, "end": 12399.8}, {"text": "times your business meeting times because we do not do proclamations during workshops um an extra thir 30 minutes on", "start": 12399.8, "end": 12408.439}, {"text": "those times that we have proclamations so so your morning meetings would start at 8:30 and your evening meetings would", "start": 12408.439, "end": 12414.479}, {"text": "start at 5:30 we do proclamations at both different types of meetings or just one", "start": 12414.479, "end": 12420.76}, {"text": "singular type of meeting no they're there proclamations on the first and third business meeting okay I don't", "start": 12420.76, "end": 12426.399}, {"text": "think anybody wants to start a business meeting at 8 a meeting at 8:30 but uh you're more than welcome to work it out", "start": 12426.399, "end": 12433.16}, {"text": "you guys think you can handle that I don't want to miss this meeting I'm sorry it's kind of important yeah so and so", "start": 12433.16, "end": 12440.319}, {"text": "mayor I I'll I'll follow up you're you're good uh he's passing the G to you Mr got it Charlie all right uh so then", "start": 12440.319, "end": 12448.16}, {"text": "so the two things that he brought up is moving uh non agenda public comment not", "start": 12448.16, "end": 12454.399}, {"text": "we have two right now we have one at the start and one at the end moving that only to the end all right and then", "start": 12454.399, "end": 12459.76}, {"text": "proclamations and awards uh at a 5:30 time is that what you're you're getting", "start": 12459.76, "end": 12464.92}, {"text": "waren that's what I heard um and but keep the 9 p 9:00 a.m. meetings 9:00 a.m. yes okay if I can pop", "start": 12464.92, "end": 12475}, {"text": "in here I don't I don't have an issue with the proclamation start I don't have 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{"text": "um you know pavement a payment Improvement somewhere that's", "start": 12886.479, "end": 12891.88}, {"text": "$500,000 um you know staff can just come forward and it can be a f minute hey this is the co this is the contractor", "start": 12891.88, "end": 12897.56}, {"text": "we've hired this is the amount and this is what it's going to improve it doesn't need to be a whole presentation but I", "start": 12897.56, "end": 12903.479}, {"text": "think there should be a dollar cap amount on what hits the consent", "start": 12903.479, "end": 12909}, {"text": "agenda any thoughts on on that recommendation oh yeah I agree with the with the premise that uh transpar and", "start": 12910.16, "end": 12916.319}, {"text": "and having those kind of individualized um would be good um have no idea on what", "start": 12916.319, "end": 12923}, {"text": "that number should be I don't know if there's um similar Provisions in other City Charters or things like that that", "start": 12923, "end": 12928.96}, {"text": "we can look to to see what what that Benchmark is um that other cities are using just as a um Miss pontier has", "start": 12928.96, "end": 12937.08}, {"text": "brought this up previously and the way we've been structuring the agenda I'd say the last couple of months is um non", "start": 12937.08, "end": 12946.279}, {"text": "non-controversial items and anything less than a million dollar is what we've", "start": 12946.279, "end": 12952}, {"text": "been it's how the agenda has been structured the last couple of months so that's just by your policy versus um", "start": 12952, "end": 12960.16}, {"text": "what's written in your policy yes yeah so if we can get that written in I think that would just be better that way you", "start": 12960.16, "end": 12966.319}, {"text": "know future Council because again we're we're sitting here now we may agree to that but um if we can include that as as", "start": 12966.319, "end": 12972.92}, {"text": "a written policy I think that's 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"end": 13019.239}, {"text": "consent to an agenda item as well corre correct and Mr gambaro I did research so", "start": 13019.239, "end": 13025.72}, {"text": "yeah the policies and procedures would be adopted as a resolution as a resolution okay great thank you uh vice", "start": 13025.72, "end": 13030.88}, {"text": "mayor anything else just one last thing um if we look at section four four of", "start": 13030.88, "end": 13036.279}, {"text": "the policies and procedures the presiding um officer and you go down to", "start": 13036.279, "end": 13041.399}, {"text": "subsection A5 it states that the mayor is to decide questions of order I don't", "start": 13041.399, "end": 13047.88}, {"text": "think that that's proper um in our policies and procedures it explicitly states that the attorney is the", "start": 13047.88, "end": 13054.239}, {"text": "parliamentarian therefore it's my position that we should take that subjectivity out of one Council memb", "start": 13054.239, "end": 13060.12}, {"text": "hands and put it with the parliamentarian allowing the parliamentarian to decide questions of", "start": 13060.12, "end": 13067.439}, {"text": "order I agree with that councilman Stevens and in his", "start": 13067.52, "end": 13073.6}, {"text": "absence who would who would take that responsibility you would always have a", "start": 13073.6, "end": 13078.8}, {"text": "attorney sitting here I would I would it be the only time it would be is probably maybe a budget meeting that the attorney", "start": 13078.8, "end": 13085.68}, {"text": "was not present and usually those are worked out ahead of time", "start": 13085.68, "end": 13091.841}, {"text": "okay okay vice mayor anything else no that's it thank you councilman yeah okay", "start": 13092.8, "end": 13099}, {"text": "um I just had a question about I know you mentioned that we have case law now for I think it's uh section", "start": 13099, "end": 13106.439}, {"text": "5f um oh sorry circled the wrong one that's what we just discussed um but in", "start": 13106.439, "end": 13112.6}, {"text": "any case addressing the the mayor directly um so we have this and that trumps this but should we make this", "start": 13112.6, "end": 13118.92}, {"text": "conform with um with that finding oh I'm I'm sorry yes that's that was I didn't", "start": 13118.92, "end": 13124.96}, {"text": "clarify and thank you for bringing that I will make that will be that will also be part of the change as", "start": 13124.96, "end": 13131.76}, {"text": "well okay any other comments councilman Stevens okay um the only thing I just", "start": 13131.76, "end": 13139.439}, {"text": "I'd like to add is that had the opportunity to sit down and speak with uh our new State Representative Sam", "start": 13139.439, "end": 13144.52}, {"text": "Greco yesterday I know others will be meeting with him uh here later this week uh but I think that uh he he kind of", "start": 13144.52, "end": 13152.16}, {"text": "painted a very realistic picture of that there's the state doesn't have a revenue", "start": 13152.16, "end": 13157.239}, {"text": "problem it has a spending problem and and the focus of the the incoming leadership is to kind of re in some of", "start": 13157.239, "end": 13163.52}, {"text": "that spending so um you know as we discussed in our last meeting it's", "start": 13163.52, "end": 13168.6}, {"text": "important to pick the top one or two projects and move out from there and then I'll also be meeting with my", "start": 13168.6, "end": 13173.96}, {"text": "college uh classmate Jason broer who's just uh appointed President Pro Temp Board of the Senate to Advocate uh on uh", "start": 13173.96, "end": 13181.72}, {"text": "on our priorities that we agreed to uh last week um but that's it", "start": 13181.72, "end": 13187}, {"text": "um City attorney we got one more public comment sorry so just is the last", "start": 13187, "end": 13192.6}, {"text": "non-agenda public comment okay any public comment none okay I'll close", "start": 13192.6, "end": 13197.72}, {"text": "public comment and everybody we've gone around the horn so um ponti Miss Miss", "start": 13197.72, "end": 13206.56}, {"text": "pontier I don't have anything further um I just want to make sure we don't skip city manager as", "start": 13206.56, "end": 13213.16}, {"text": "well okay so I got here here City attorney any comments uh nothing additional thank you okay city manager", "start": 13213.279, "end": 13219.52}, {"text": "uh yes we've got the upcoming Starlight parade um this weekend on Saturday it's", "start": 13219.52, "end": 13225.239}, {"text": "going to be a wonderful and fabulous event um thank you all for joining us yesterday for our strategic Retreat and", "start": 13225.239, "end": 13232.6}, {"text": "heard a lot of good conversation and direction that um we can take for our", "start": 13232.6, "end": 13238}, {"text": "strategic planning in January and through March so uh that concludes my comment sir okay great Al there", 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