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"end": 480.8}, {"text": "Reconciliation can unite us all please keep well stay safe and let us on", "start": 480.8, "end": 486.639}, {"text": "Council know of any chance to be helpful to you and yours please let us know anytime you can help increase oakville's", "start": 486.639, "end": 494.36}, {"text": "Harmony prosperity and livability and if anybody has a cell", "start": 494.36, "end": 501.159}, {"text": "phone or other device that you haven't already silenced uh would you please do so now Madam clerk are there any regrets", "start": 501.159, "end": 508.319}, {"text": "for this meeting I have no regrets for tonight's meeting all right thank you", "start": 508.319, "end": 513.839}, {"text": "Council are there any Declarations of pecuniary Interest Madam clerk I see", "start": 513.839, "end": 520.279}, {"text": "none um all right Council in order to facilitate the flow of the meeting and", "start": 520.279, "end": 527.08}, {"text": "uh and still get our business done uh I would 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"get because you forward them to us so thank you very much for being one Avenue to forward complaints um but we get them", "start": 2100.8, "end": 2107.72}, {"text": "through individual connections through myself or Sergeant Ron stra or through our online reporting system and what it", "start": 2107.72, "end": 2114.2}, {"text": "looks like is we receive a complaint um we review it we may look at data or", "start": 2114.2, "end": 2120.28}, {"text": "analytics you know to track it to see you know what priority it probably needs to be given given that you know we can't", "start": 2120.28, "end": 2126.64}, {"text": "immediately respond to all of them we'll do a work up on that area to see you know has there been collisions uh number", "start": 2126.64, "end": 2133.4}, {"text": "of you know tickets issued we connect with the town to discuss traffic calming measures if it's been a consideration", "start": 2133.4, "end": 2139.52}, {"text": "and potentially needs to be a study and then we 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uh who is responsible for what and I would certainly encourage people to reach out", "start": 2742.8, "end": 2749.839}, {"text": "to those Representatives uh if they have questions in relation uh to those areas", "start": 2749.839, "end": 2754.88}, {"text": "of responsibility certainly uh our are responsibility I always recommend uh", "start": 2754.88, "end": 2760.8}, {"text": "reaching out to us uh the last slide of these presentations is typically our website and the reason that I put that", "start": 2760.8, "end": 2766.72}, {"text": "slide on there is because there's tremendous information on our website on almost everything that you would have a", "start": 2766.72, "end": 2771.8}, {"text": "question for so I always encourage people to visit it um and certainly uh", "start": 2771.8, "end": 2776.88}, {"text": "let us know if uh there's any area that people have questions in with the relation to Crime some of the", "start": 2776.88, "end": 2782.44}, {"text": "initiatives that Ryan spoke of because we're always very happy to connect with uh community members", "start": 2782.44, "end": 2788.119}, {"text": "well thank you for what you're doing and where you're doing it had a call from a resident uh last week called the", "start": 2788.119, "end": 2795.68}, {"text": "non-emergency line around 12:30 in the morning there was somebody crawling around the house and the officer was", "start": 2795.68, "end": 2801.88}, {"text": "there in less than two minutes uh I have been followed home from Blake Council meetings as a result of dying uh having", "start": 2801.88, "end": 2809.28}, {"text": "a property uh stolen vehicle and they follow me to my driveway and yeah it's", "start": 2809.28, "end": 2815.16}, {"text": "registered so good stuff thank you thank you councelor gings councelor", "start": 2815.16, "end": 2822.2}, {"text": "Chisum thank you worship through you um gentlemen the job you do is very complex", "start": 2822.2, "end": 2827.96}, {"text": "and I want to thank you personally for all the work that you do in trying to keep ahead with all the technology that is laying out these days and keeping", "start": 2827.96, "end": 2834.359}, {"text": "ahead of the criminal activity within our municipality and also within the region of Alton and also Ontario so", "start": 2834.359, "end": 2840.079}, {"text": "congratulations and keep up the good work um couple quick questions uh I understand too through the regional", "start": 2840.079, "end": 2845.559}, {"text": "government there's been approval through 38 uh Constable or 38 new uh officers coming online I would suspect it's", "start": 2845.559, "end": 2852.24}, {"text": "around 12 or 13 for district 2 is that", "start": 2852.24, "end": 2856.52}, {"text": "correct I think you're using the new math but no we are we are definitely", "start": 2859.68, "end": 2865.04}, {"text": "looking forward to hiring 38 additional police officers in the 2025 budget um", "start": 2865.04, "end": 2870.92}, {"text": "the 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Oakville but other parts of", "start": 3371.28, "end": 3377.48}, {"text": "town I know number of my Council colleagues have um worked with your team to make that happen and so we appreciate", "start": 3377.48, "end": 3383.4}, {"text": "that I think it's been very helpful to uh reduce things society and members of the public uh and provide some useful", "start": 3383.4, "end": 3389.839}, {"text": "tips that can help with crime prevention but I I wondered if you could touch on one question that seems to be coming up", "start": 3389.839, "end": 3395.64}, {"text": "regularly and I think you touched on it at the region as well during the discussion there about the the visibility of police presence on the", "start": 3395.64, "end": 3402.88}, {"text": "streets versus uh perceived safety and actual safety uh of the community and", "start": 3402.88, "end": 3409.92}, {"text": "how the two two things don't necessarily speak to each other yeah I mean for", "start": 3409.92, "end": 3415.92}, {"text": "indiv individual's perception becomes reality but the two are not always the same visibility will deter some crime um", "start": 3415.92, "end": 3423.68}, {"text": "police visibility in some cases will deter the crime or defer it or cause it", "start": 3423.68, "end": 3429.319}, {"text": "to happen somewhere else at a different time we will never be able to be on", "start": 3429.319, "end": 3434.44}, {"text": "every street all the time nor would we want to be um because there is no reason to be on a street where there is not a", "start": 3434.44, "end": 3440.44}, {"text": "need for us to be either so we often hear and and more often than not it's", "start": 3440.44, "end": 3445.92}, {"text": "through social media uh you know I've I've never seen a police car on my street and even the way subdivisions and", "start": 3445.92, "end": 3453.559}, {"text": "homes are designed it's not so families and individuals are even at the front of their houses if they are home uh they're", "start": 3453.559, "end": 3460.44}, {"text": "in the family rooms at the back or they're in the deck in the backyard and a car could go by three or four times a", "start": 3460.44, "end": 3465.64}, {"text": "day and nobody would see it anyway we do have technology we can tell how often", "start": 3465.64, "end": 3470.799}, {"text": "our vehicles are in different locations we can go back and do that from a GPS perspective but it is a it is a", "start": 3470.799, "end": 3477.44}, {"text": "perception sometimes that visibility in and of itself is going to stop things", "start": 3477.44, "end": 3483.4}, {"text": "but then there's a level where it's really exponentially expensive we had someone suggest that we could stop every", "start": 3483.4, "end": 3490.52}, {"text": "vehicle getting off the highway or coming into Oakville on all the different ways that you can come into", "start": 3490.52, "end": 3496.559}, {"text": "Oakville uh absolutely impossible uh Not only would it make traffic even worse um", "start": 3496.559, "end": 3502.68}, {"text": "but it would not be possible for us to be in all of those locations no order to stop those vehicles and the organized", "start": 3502.68, "end": 3509.359}, {"text": "crime people or even the younger criminals that are actually committing some of the thefts they're not stopping", "start": 3509.359, "end": 3516.4}, {"text": "for police uh which is another level of the concern and danger from these", "start": 3516.4, "end": 3522.2}, {"text": "because they'll Ram police cars they'll they'll flee from us at high rates of", "start": 3522.2, "end": 3527.44}, {"text": "speed we saw the tragedy in Durham um where the vehicle was going the wrong way on the 401 getting a little off", "start": 3527.44, "end": 3534.16}, {"text": "topic from your presence uh question but that individual was arrested three times", "start": 3534.16, "end": 3540}, {"text": "prior to that incident twice here in Halton once for a robbery type of call at an 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{"text": "them were deported and some of those people or other people in that same type", "start": 3630.52, "end": 3635.68}, {"text": "of organization are back here doing break-ins now and some were arrested just this week so that's a trend that", "start": 3635.68, "end": 3641.96}, {"text": "can just change as soon as this group of organized break and Enter people come into town and start to Target residences", "start": 3641.96, "end": 3648.88}, {"text": "in a different part of town so the the home invasion auto theft there are some Trends to that our analysts are also", "start": 3648.88, "end": 3656.2}, {"text": "looking at that all the time so the heat maps are useful to us the crime maps are useful for individuals in the community", "start": 3656.2, "end": 3663.799}, {"text": "to go onto our website anytime see the types of occurrences that are happening in their neighborhood or not happening", "start": 3663.799, "end": 3671.599}, {"text": "as much as social media is suggesting 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individual uh under the mental health", "start": 3899.96, "end": 3906.4}, {"text": "act for their own protection and to apprehend them and take them to a facility where they can get care so that", "start": 3906.4, "end": 3913.92}, {"text": "is true in a great number of instances that the person is actually apprehended", "start": 3913.92, "end": 3919.24}, {"text": "to be taken there for their own good suicidal types of situations there are other instances", "start": 3919.24, "end": 3926.839}, {"text": "where our paramedics may be involved and they call us because it's reaching that sort of danger point where they need the", "start": 3926.839, "end": 3933.319}, {"text": "police there to help them as well so absolutely we uh take a lot of people to", "start": 3933.319, "end": 3939.279}, {"text": "our local hospitals uh and spend quite a bit of time there while we wait for", "start": 3939.279, "end": 3944.88}, {"text": "what's known as transfer of care either from ourselves or the paramedics to the", "start": 3944.88, "end": 3950.2}, {"text": "hospital we do have our mobile mobile crisis rapid response teams say I you", "start": 3950.2, "end": 3956}, {"text": "know which are comprised of a very highly trained officer working with a mental health professional who works", "start": 3956, "end": 3962.68}, {"text": "with us in the same police car they were doing about 60% of our mental health", "start": 3962.68, "end": 3968.52}, {"text": "calls and what happens is when those individuals go they can actually triage the mental health situation because that", "start": 3968.52, "end": 3975.48}, {"text": "person has the mental health training and then when we get to the hospital that turnover time is significantly", "start": 3975.48, "end": 3982.64}, {"text": "reduced because the hospital knows they're going to to um judge the person", "start": 3982.64, "end": 3988.16}, {"text": "on the same criteria thank you I think it's important for everyone to know that you", "start": 3988.16, "end": 3993.96}, {"text": "know there's there's different levels of work that our police are doing and and", "start": 3993.96, "end": 3999}, {"text": "that's why we don't always have the boots on the ground for all the criminal activity that's happening out there so", "start": 3999, "end": 4004.48}, {"text": "thank you Chief thank you mayor thank you counselor councelor Haslet deal", "start": 4004.48, "end": 4009.839}, {"text": "through you mayor Burton thank you Chief Tanner and and team um most of my", "start": 4009.839, "end": 4015.599}, {"text": "questions have been asked but I have three just follow-ups so you do have a heat map and you do have you know", "start": 4015.599, "end": 4022.079}, {"text": "latebreaking Trends but um from a confidence perspective can the public uh", "start": 4022.079, "end": 4028.559}, {"text": "he are you reflecting on that as you look at deployments every night every", "start": 4028.559, "end": 4035.359}, {"text": "weekend um and considering how you uh deploy the officers to address what", "start": 4035.359, "end": 4042.64}, {"text": "might be a trend in one area but not a trend in another it's a question I get", "start": 4042.64, "end": 4048}, {"text": "all the time and my answer is yes absolutely uh from an Oakville", "start": 4048, "end": 4053.119}, {"text": "perspective I should probably get Ron to come up and talk about what they actually do in Oakville but we", "start": 4053.119, "end": 4059.559}, {"text": "redeploy officers and uniform or in plane clothes or in U vehicles that", "start": 4059.559, "end": 4065.68}, {"text": "might not be recognized as police vehicles very often to deal with these", "start": 4065.68, "end": 4071.279}, {"text": "things thanks Chief um so yes we use the heat maps to uh direct our deployment um", "start": 4071.4, "end": 4079.799}, {"text": "you know when we talk about this type of issue I always like to reflect back on the slide that inspector bar opened with", "start": 4079.799, "end": 4086.279}, {"text": "with all the other issues that uh officers get pulled in and so you know we have to respond to those issues but", "start": 4086.279, "end": 4092.279}, {"text": "when we're not responding to those issues uh and in addition to those issues we will have Staffing", "start": 4092.279, "end": 4098.199}, {"text": "specifically deployed in those hotpots and we can't necessarily say on Tuesday", "start": 4098.199, "end": 4103.48}, {"text": "it's going to be a breaking enter off Lake sure and on Wednesday it'll be off done Des but we will use a combination", "start": 4103.48, "end": 4110.199}, {"text": "of high presence uh police officer in a police vehicle with police lights and", "start": 4110.199, "end": 4116.64}, {"text": "officers that are uh Dressed in jeans and t-shirt in a vehicle you wouldn't recognize and they work together each", "start": 4116.64, "end": 4123}, {"text": "and every night uh for those priority occurrences the home invasions the breaking enters the auto thefts and uh", "start": 4123, "end": 4130.48}, {"text": "almost every night they come across something you know each time we do we have to balance out", "start": 4130.48, "end": 4135.96}, {"text": "our response to that uh depending on the set of factors that are in front of us but those Maps I share with you and", "start": 4135.96, "end": 4142.679}, {"text": "they're shared with every single police officer on a weekly basis to plan uh how", "start": 4142.679, "end": 4148.159}, {"text": "we deploy our resources so thank you for bringing Clarity to that um for everyone", "start": 4148.159, "end": 4154.44}, {"text": "um my second last question is these slides are excellent so will they po be", "start": 4154.44, "end": 4160.719}, {"text": "posted on the hton Police website as well um as obviously we have them on", "start": 4160.719, "end": 4166.08}, {"text": "video now tonight yes so certainly we can we can share them we might not do it through our website but certainly we can", "start": 4166.08, "end": 4172.199}, {"text": "email it out and uh can be in the counselor newsletter um for you and my", "start": 4172.199, "end": 4177.92}, {"text": "last comment is thank you for your empathy people's fear levels are high their anxiety is quite High um and uh we", "start": 4177.92, "end": 4186.64}, {"text": "don't walk in their shoes when it hasn't happened to us and I I'm continually impressed with just the level of care", "start": 4186.64, "end": 4193.758}, {"text": "and concern the the course always brings uh to an issue so thank you very much", "start": 4193.759, "end": 4199.56}, {"text": "thank you for that thank you counselor councelor elar thank you very much for coming", "start": 4199.56, "end": 4206}, {"text": "tonight very perfect timing that was this is good for everybody and that's watching and who will watch in the", "start": 4206, "end": 4212.12}, {"text": "future my question is a few years ago there was a huge case in a police force just to the west of us where the", "start": 4212.12, "end": 4217.679}, {"text": "detective in fact was totally connected with organized crime behind the scenes and you probably know the case and I'm", "start": 4217.679, "end": 4224.48}, {"text": "just wondering how can we we ensure that never happens to us in Halton or what do we have safeguards in a place because it", "start": 4224.48, "end": 4230.64}, {"text": "was going on for quite a few years and it was a a Toronto detective Sergeant who was uh caught them on from from Mo", "start": 4230.64, "end": 4237.52}, {"text": "putting drugs in a in a vehicle and want waiting for them to go to a mall and it's quite complicated but how can we", "start": 4237.52, "end": 4243.159}, {"text": "ensure that's not not happening here yes so I'll start it off I don't know if uh Chief wants to oh there he is go ahead", "start": 4243.159, "end": 4250.159}, {"text": "uh yeah so you know obviously any internal matters we have uh teams and processes in place to always be looking", "start": 4250.159, "end": 4257.12}, {"text": "into those types of situations um and and anything anytime anyone has any suspicion of that there", "start": 4257.12, "end": 4263.92}, {"text": "are processes in place that we would notify different bureaus and units to investigate that um I I don't know if", "start": 4263.92, "end": 4270.719}, {"text": "there's any top up on that Chief yeah I mean there's obviously there's some high priority cases in a variety of different", "start": 4270.719, "end": 4277.6}, {"text": "police services and some larger and some smaller uh we have had officers or an", "start": 4277.6, "end": 4284.32}, {"text": "officer here whose employment was terminated because of some unlawful activity just a few years ago as well so", "start": 4284.32, "end": 4290.6}, {"text": "we have checked some balances uh for some of our what our officers are doing", "start": 4290.6, "end": 4296.12}, {"text": "um and we certainly have our Professional Standards uh branch that investigate internal Internal Affairs", "start": 4296.12, "end": 4302.28}, {"text": "types of things or Chief's complaints or public complaints so there's a variety of checks and balances on that uh I", "start": 4302.28, "end": 4309.12}, {"text": "think most of that really gets back to hiring um I honestly believe we have a", "start": 4309.12, "end": 4314.52}, {"text": "higher stand standard of hiring here um we do not hire some individuals who are", "start": 4314.52, "end": 4319.76}, {"text": "hired somewhere else wherever that might be um so I think that's also helpful for", "start": 4319.76, "end": 4325.12}, {"text": "us here I just say thank you for what you're doing for the everybody in Halton", "start": 4325.12, "end": 4330.199}, {"text": "region thank you thank you thank you counselor uh thank you", "start": 4330.199, "end": 4335.76}, {"text": "very much Chief uh uh you can tell by the length and the depth of the questions that uh you have our attention", "start": 4335.76, "end": 4343.08}, {"text": "and uh you can tell by the decision last week that you have our support and uh we", "start": 4343.08, "end": 4349.639}, {"text": "appreciate you coming tonight I appreciate that thank you very much for the support of all of you I did want to", "start": 4349.639, "end": 4355.56}, {"text": "mention one thing there was sort of a high-profile an announcement somewhere else in Ontario that they had got their", "start": 4355.56, "end": 4362.36}, {"text": "911 answering time down to 15 seconds so I immediately checked to see where we", "start": 4362.36, "end": 4368.36}, {"text": "were and ours is four um so I just wanted to pass that on to you thank you", "start": 4368.36, "end": 4373.679}, {"text": "thank you very much", "start": 4373.679, "end": 4377.12}, {"text": "I I have always loved how competitive Chief Tanner is um could I have a move", "start": 4379.52, "end": 4384.76}, {"text": "and second to receive the presentation councelor Haslet deal councelor MCN thank you any objection there being none", "start": 4384.76, "end": 4391.239}, {"text": "that's that's carried Council we're going to turn to 10.3 Towing without the vehicle owner's consent we have a", "start": 4391.239, "end": 4398.12}, {"text": "presentation by Selena Campbell the director of Municipal enforcement and we have a number of delegations who we look", "start": 4398.12, "end": 4404.04}, {"text": "forward to hearing from uh if everybody could give attention now to Miss Campbell um the purpose of her", "start": 4404.04, "end": 4411.28}, {"text": "presentation is to is to summarize for the Public's benefit the report that uh", "start": 4411.28, "end": 4417.679}, {"text": "and and actually the this is a this is a report with a long tale this is to share", "start": 4417.679, "end": 4423.32}, {"text": "with the public what council already has read and and understood uh Miss Campbell thank you your worship good", "start": 4423.32, "end": 4430.56}, {"text": "evening Mr Mayor members of council I'm here to speak to item 10 point thank you I'm here to speech item 10.3 on", "start": 4430.56, "end": 4436.639}, {"text": "tonight's agenda which proposes a bylaw uh for council's consideration to regulate the towing of vehicles from", "start": 4436.639, "end": 4443.56}, {"text": "private property and Municipal land without the vehicle owner's consent so in July 2nd uh 2024 council", "start": 4443.56, "end": 4452.8}, {"text": "at the council meeting staff were directed to prepare a bylaw to override the property owner's ability to tow", "start": 4452.8, "end": 4458.48}, {"text": "unauthorized vehicles uh parked on private property proposed bylaw 2024 4-1", "start": 4458.48, "end": 4465.76}, {"text": "187 is before council tonight for consideration the bylaw regulates Towing", "start": 4465.76, "end": 4471.92}, {"text": "on land which includes private property parking lots and Municipal", "start": 4471.92, "end": 4478.08}, {"text": "land the proposed baw that um that Towing and sorry the proposed bylaw", "start": 4479.12, "end": 4485.4}, {"text": "provides that Towing and impounding without a vehicle owner's consent may only occur with the proposed uh bylaw", "start": 4485.4, "end": 4492.6}, {"text": "under or under the trespass to property act so you have two methods under the b or trespass to property this removes the", "start": 4492.6, "end": 4499.719}, {"text": "ability to tow impound or impound a vehicle from Land uh without the vehicle", "start": 4499.719, "end": 4505.48}, {"text": "owner's consent under common", "start": 4505.48, "end": 4509.159}, {"text": "law the proposed bylaw stipulates that towing or impounding a vehicle without the property owner's consent may only be", "start": 4510.84, "end": 4517.4}, {"text": "authorized by Municipal law enforcement officer or an mleo uh that is appointed", "start": 4517.4, "end": 4522.6}, {"text": "uh by the town to enforce parking on private parking uh Lots the town's 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the", "start": 4568.36, "end": 4573.44}, {"text": "toe now a supervisor will be available during the day and an on call supervisor", "start": 4573.44, "end": 4578.96}, {"text": "would be available after business hours a 1-hour waiting period has", "start": 4578.96, "end": 4584.12}, {"text": "expired between the issuance of the parking ticket and the toe and that Halton Regional Police is notified so", "start": 4584.12, "end": 4590.88}, {"text": "that they are aware of the removal of the vehicle uh so that um when a when", "start": 4590.88, "end": 4596.04}, {"text": "contacted by a vehicle owner they are able to advise where the vehicle is located and that has not been", "start": 4596.04, "end": 4602.6}, {"text": "stolen so ultimately there are two main uh options to address unauthorized", "start": 4602.6, "end": 4608.12}, {"text": "parking under the proposed bylaw so the first is to contact the town and request that a parking penalty be issued uh by a", "start": 4608.12, "end": 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"end": 4661.84}, {"text": "Oakville and to date uh this year they have issued over 6200", "start": 4661.84, "end": 4668.8}, {"text": "tickets it's also important important to note the one-hour waiting period does not apply to all Vehicles parked stopped", "start": 4669.32, "end": 4676.6}, {"text": "or left uh left standing if uh they're insign fire routes in construction zones", "start": 4676.6, "end": 4683.76}, {"text": "they interfere with snow clearing on Municipal land or they block uh laneways loading docks Ingress or egress of", "start": 4683.76, "end": 4690.44}, {"text": "points of driveways uh they're on Municipal rights away or on Municipal land or Community uh for Community or", "start": 4690.44, "end": 4698.08}, {"text": "special events or in emergency", "start": 4698.08, "end": 4702.199}, {"text": "situations so signage must be permanently mounted and consist of legible double-sided signs uh placed at", "start": 4703.76, "end": 4710.8}, {"text": "all public entrances to the 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"end": 4757.48}, {"text": "comply with the proposed bylaw by December 31st uh 2027 if passed any new", "start": 4757.48, "end": 4763.639}, {"text": "signage we would need to comply with the bylaw when it comes into force uh on", "start": 4763.639, "end": 4768.8}, {"text": "February 20th of 2025 if a property owner decides not to tow they do not have to change the", "start": 4768.8, "end": 4777.76}, {"text": "signage the towing and and sorry the towing and safe storage safety and", "start": 4781.04, "end": 4787.04}, {"text": "Enforcement Act I'll just call it TOA that'll make a less of a tongue twister for myself so to see requires that", "start": 4787.04, "end": 4793.28}, {"text": "Towing and storage operators provide a maximum schedule of rates to the MTO the", "start": 4793.28, "end": 4799.28}, {"text": "schedule of rates is posted on the mto's website the proposed bylaw provides that", "start": 4799.28, "end": 4805.239}, {"text": "the tow or storage yard operator must charge rates 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an MCO to arrange the", "start": 4900.08, "end": 4906.199}, {"text": "tow mcos must attend the site issue the penalty notice and either wait for the one hour or return uh later to authorize", "start": 4906.199, "end": 4914.36}, {"text": "the tow additionally they must uh inform hton Regional Police prior to Towing the", "start": 4914.36, "end": 4919.56}, {"text": "vehicle this process is timec consuming and will temporarily divert the mcos", "start": 4919.56, "end": 4924.719}, {"text": "from other duties that they provide uh and other services within the town it is", "start": 4924.719, "end": 4930.08}, {"text": "possible that more private property owners will request appointments of mlos", "start": 4930.08, "end": 4935.679}, {"text": "uh to provide that additional support and enforcement this could increase the workload to Municipal enforcement", "start": 4935.679, "end": 4942.36}, {"text": "Services administrative staff who manage these appointments and process the resulting penalty", 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"start": 4987.679, "end": 4993.36}, {"text": "operational requirements for future consideration by Council and thank you very much I would", "start": 4993.36, "end": 5000.52}, {"text": "be happy to answer any questions you may have very well council do you have", "start": 5000.52, "end": 5005.84}, {"text": "questions or would you like to proceed now to delegations delegations Madame clerk", "start": 5005.84, "end": 5012.199}, {"text": "would you call the registered delegations our first registered delegation I'm not sure is available uh", "start": 5012.199, "end": 5019.48}, {"text": "Claudio Sero are you in the audience he is in the", "start": 5019.48, "end": 5027.8}, {"text": "audience Mr surel welcome Council looks forward to your information if you've", "start": 5027.8, "end": 5033.88}, {"text": "come to delegate uh and it's possible to move closer to the center aisle you'll", "start": 5033.88, "end": 5039}, {"text": "be assisting yourself and everybody else uh claudo we uh we look forward to your", "start": 5039, "end": 5046.6}, {"text": "information good evening your worship and counselors we'll hear it better if you pull that", "start": 5046.6, "end": 5052.48}, {"text": "around as they say speak into the microphone thank you perfect um sorry I", "start": 5052.48, "end": 5057.88}, {"text": "don't have a an actual speech I just wanted to get some information on the bylaw um so I do have some questions", "start": 5057.88, "end": 5065.719}, {"text": "about the bylaw which I'm not sure if this is the appropriate time uh to to ask questions", "start": 5065.719, "end": 5072.04}, {"text": "but um this bylaw as I note is um to", "start": 5072.04, "end": 5077.199}, {"text": "allow so sorry I do need to get some water uh", "start": 5077.199, "end": 5082.48}, {"text": "as the bylaw as I know is to allow this one hour waiting period which I'm not sure so sorry maybe I should introduce", "start": 5082.48, "end": 5089.119}, {"text": "myself my name is claudo suro I own Monahan Sports PPP and Grill in Oakville just down the street uh we do have", "start": 5089.119, "end": 5096.6}, {"text": "parking issues at Monahans uh part of the parking issues are the students that", "start": 5096.6, "end": 5102.36}, {"text": "park in the parking lot so with those parking issues of course as the parking", "start": 5102.36, "end": 5107.84}, {"text": "spots become unavailable it's hard to get to the", "start": 5107.84, "end": 5113.56}, {"text": "commercial tenants in the parking lots so the one-h hour waiting period creates", "start": 5113.56, "end": 5119.48}, {"text": "a huge problem um I've been there for 35 years and those we've had parking issues", "start": 5119.48, "end": 5127.36}, {"text": "for most of those years the biggest problem is of course the students that come in and park there um the cars as", "start": 5127.36, "end": 5134.92}, {"text": "they sit there for hours and hours take up the parking spots for", "start": 5134.92, "end": 5141.159}, {"text": "customers uh we've tried the different processes with calling the", "start": 5141.159, "end": 5146.4}, {"text": "municipality um calling by law enforcement unfortunately doesn't seem to remove the tickets or sorry the cars", "start": 5146.4, "end": 5153.719}, {"text": "even after ticketed so this bylaw proposes that we have a ticket process a", "start": 5153.719, "end": 5161.08}, {"text": "penalty and then after one hour to get some Towing so I'm not sure how that's all", "start": 5161.08, "end": 5167.52}, {"text": "going to help these parking lots especially our parking lot parking lots", "start": 5167.52, "end": 5172.679}, {"text": "across from the hospital and areas that are high traffic that people don't want to pay for", "start": 5172.679, "end": 5178.159}, {"text": "parking so this bylaw proposes certain restrictions on our part being the", "start": 5178.159, "end": 5184.92}, {"text": "owners of these of the of the uh businesses in these properties and", "start": 5184.92, "end": 5191.96}, {"text": "without any remedies to remove those cars so after one hour that the cars", "start": 5191.96, "end": 5197.6}, {"text": "parked there there is a remedy and that is to call um these Municipal bylaw", "start": 5197.6, "end": 5202.639}, {"text": "Enforcement Officers which I read will be appointed um I'm not sure how we're", "start": 5202.639, "end": 5209.159}, {"text": "going to get these cars removed and so forth to allow our customer customers to", "start": 5209.159, "end": 5214.6}, {"text": "come into the areas um part of the problems that we", "start": 5214.6, "end": 5220.96}, {"text": "have part of the problems that we have is Uber drivers they sit in our parking", "start": 5220.96, "end": 5226.52}, {"text": "lot for hours waiting for calls so uh currently we ask these Uber drivers to", "start": 5226.52, "end": 5233.28}, {"text": "leave well with this bylaw that will allow them to sit there and they can sit in our parking lot for an hour move", "start": 5233.28, "end": 5240.199}, {"text": "around take a ride and then come back and park there so that will create some problems with", "start": 5240.199, "end": 5246.44}, {"text": "us because currently we ask them to leave and if they don't leave we have the remedy of Towing which this bylaw", "start": 5246.44, "end": 5253.52}, {"text": "removes that remedy again I mentioned the students we also have Residential Properties behind us and the Residential", "start": 5253.52, "end": 5259.96}, {"text": "Properties bring in certain friends and visitors and they park in the parking", "start": 5259.96, "end": 5265.84}, {"text": "lot so different problems in different areas obviously we have a big problem in Brony I understand that we have a big", "start": 5265.84, "end": 5272.44}, {"text": "problem around the hospital and we have a problem around areas like Monahans", "start": 5272.44, "end": 5277.76}, {"text": "that need parking and this bylaw removes it um the fine that I understand is a", "start": 5277.76, "end": 5285.44}, {"text": "$300 fine um not sure it's an administrative fine that goes to the", "start": 5285.44, "end": 5292.639}, {"text": "town um that doesn't help us that doesn't help the property owner or the", "start": 5292.639, "end": 5298.36}, {"text": "property managers that need to now monitor the area bring in a municipal", "start": 5298.36, "end": 5305.08}, {"text": "officer or appoint the municipal enforcement officer and then have them sit there for that hour to make sure", "start": 5305.08, "end": 5311.84}, {"text": "it's an hour um it creates a lot of problems um we have every year we have Ribfest", "start": 5311.84, "end": 5320.48}, {"text": "across the road from us great for the town I think it's fantastic that that we have it for the", "start": 5320.48, "end": 5326.4}, {"text": "town unfortunately um it takes up all our parking and there's no remedy if we left", "start": 5326.4, "end": 5333.44}, {"text": "people there for an hour well they go across the road do their thing get their ribs and leave that doesn't help us so", "start": 5333.44, "end": 5340.4}, {"text": "there's different problems that are happening in in the town and I understand that a lot of it is in Brony", "start": 5340.4, "end": 5345.84}, {"text": "but we need we need to address certain areas like Monahans and different areas", "start": 5345.84, "end": 5350.96}, {"text": "so the hospital also being another one um liability is another issue so having", "start": 5350.96, "end": 5356.52}, {"text": "these cars parked there for one hour um who assumes that liability if anything", "start": 5356.52, "end": 5362.88}, {"text": "happens to the vehicle if uh there's any problems getting to the vehicle leaving the property and so", "start": 5362.88, "end": 5369.36}, {"text": "forth so the trespassing that happens on certain properties now becomes our", "start": 5369.36, "end": 5375.44}, {"text": "liability and I'm not sure how this bylaw addresses that I don't think there's any remedies for the landlord uh", "start": 5375.44, "end": 5382.4}, {"text": "having 20 30 cars that now we need to address their liability", "start": 5382.4, "end": 5390.119}, {"text": "um I think uh that's all I oh sor sorry there is one more thing sorry the administrative fees and the tickets or", "start": 5391.08, "end": 5397.56}, {"text": "the fines that would be applied I'm not sure it doesn't address if those fines are collectable or how they're", "start": 5397.56, "end": 5402.84}, {"text": "collectible I know parking tickets are collectible through U when we go re-register for our licenses uh for our", "start": 5402.84, "end": 5410.199}, {"text": "stickers I'm not sure if these fines would have that same remedy so I'm not", "start": 5410.199, "end": 5415.44}, {"text": "sure if all these have been addressed again I'm sorry that I'm not better prepared at it um the notice that came", "start": 5415.44, "end": 5422.04}, {"text": "out in July only gave us a few days days to read some of the notices and this was", "start": 5422.04, "end": 5428}, {"text": "dropped on our laps uh just last week so we just wanted to know how this is all", "start": 5428, "end": 5433.679}, {"text": "going to be addressed for us okay thank you for bringing your questions uh Miss Campbell I think can come back up uh I", "start": 5433.679, "end": 5441.52}, {"text": "caught four questions um uh can the", "start": 5441.52, "end": 5448.719}, {"text": "uh can the uh ticketing process can the call be initiated before the hour is up", "start": 5448.719, "end": 5455.96}, {"text": "was your the first question I noted the second is um uh does the mleo have to", "start": 5455.96, "end": 5464.199}, {"text": "sit there for an entire hour I Believe Miss kampbell indicated they could uh", "start": 5464.199, "end": 5470}, {"text": "come note the time and then come back uh but I'd like her to clarify that you", "start": 5470, "end": 5477.04}, {"text": "also asked how the fines are collected and uh you had a question about uh", "start": 5477.04, "end": 5482.719}, {"text": "whether there's some kind of liability ility on uh on you as I understood it from the Cars uh M", "start": 5482.719, "end": 5489.48}, {"text": "Campbell thank you through your your worship and and perhaps I can um provide a little bit more clarity on the process", "start": 5489.48, "end": 5496.32}, {"text": "as well and and certainly I I understand what you've what you go through i' I've pick up my morning coffee there on", "start": 5496.32, "end": 5502.639}, {"text": "occasion and have advised some students who have parked inappropriately so try", "start": 5502.639, "end": 5508.48}, {"text": "to help you out when I can there but um essentially what the process would be", "start": 5508.48, "end": 5513.679}, {"text": "would depend on whether or not it's an MCO or an mleo so if you had an mleo so", "start": 5513.679, "end": 5518.96}, {"text": "a a a security company that you've hired to uh attend your property and regulate", "start": 5518.96, "end": 5524.8}, {"text": "that property especially during um peak times where you know you're going to have issues they would come they would", "start": 5524.8, "end": 5531.28}, {"text": "issue the ticket immediately they would then contact the office explain what's happening they could get that", "start": 5531.28, "end": 5538.08}, {"text": "pre-authorization so they'd be confirming the signage they'd be confirming the property all the elements", "start": 5538.08, "end": 5543.119}, {"text": "of of the towing authorization that could be provided by the the designate of the director and at the same time", "start": 5543.119, "end": 5550.04}, {"text": "you're going to be contacting your toe company and saying I have a toe that can be done performed at X time can you be", "start": 5550.04, "end": 5556.92}, {"text": "here for that time so in your hour you're going to be conducting all of these activities also contacting Halton", "start": 5556.92, "end": 5563.52}, {"text": "Regional Police to advise them of the toe so that they have that information as well so there is work that you're", "start": 5563.52, "end": 5569.159}, {"text": "doing within that hour um that they could do and and of course there's there's that penalty so the penalty", "start": 5569.159, "end": 5575.679}, {"text": "notice that they would issue would be a $50 penalty for Park on private property without", "start": 5575.679, "end": 5581.239}, {"text": "authorization um that would of course um be issued to the vehicle at at the time", "start": 5581.239, "end": 5586.28}, {"text": "and that's right away as soon as you see the violation that ticket can be issued so if they happen to drive to come back", "start": 5586.28, "end": 5593.679}, {"text": "and want to leave within that hour they still have a penalty and we've we've", "start": 5593.679, "end": 5599.119}, {"text": "looked at this process to really say how does it fit with our enforcement philosophies within the town we 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so the the payment would come into the town", "start": 5686.76, "end": 5693.28}, {"text": "they also have the ability to dispute that ticket through the screening and hearing", "start": 5693.28, "end": 5698.719}, {"text": "process okay thank you for the chance to answer your questions okay thank you um", "start": 5699.719, "end": 5705.719}, {"text": "councelor MCN and councelor Adams before claudo goes away you have a question for him or for Miss Campbell councelor Adams", "start": 5705.719, "end": 5712}, {"text": "then councelor mcnees thank you so much I appreciate your input to this discussion I um uh", "start": 5712, "end": 5718.84}, {"text": "haven't been to your establishment uh many a time over the years uh I've known noticed the the same issues that you've", "start": 5718.84, "end": 5725.52}, {"text": "noticed I've seen the towing happening off of the lot um and I wondered if you", "start": 5725.52, "end": 5731}, {"text": "can help me understand how frequently there's ticketing 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re hires the parking", "start": 5773.8, "end": 5780.36}, {"text": "authority that runs the plaza and the two apartment buildings and they hire the tow truck company so the tow truck", "start": 5780.36, "end": 5786.48}, {"text": "company is working for the whole Plaza and uh towing cars um as they see people", "start": 5786.48, "end": 5792.92}, {"text": "leave the property so the process is they have a spotter that watches the the", "start": 5792.92, "end": 5798.04}, {"text": "people come in and park once that person leaves the um uh the property then they", "start": 5798.04, "end": 5804.88}, {"text": "will to the car so I understand you guys keep referring to this predatory process um but I don't", "start": 5804.88, "end": 5813.36}, {"text": "understand and if someone enters the property and trespasses then they are", "start": 5813.36, "end": 5818.8}, {"text": "trespassing there is no time limit to how long you need to be there to trespass if you're not conducting", "start": 5818.8, 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somebody as a full-time employee just standing there logging cars this is going to cost our Plaza and", "start": 5866.159, "end": 5873.56}, {"text": "other plazas huge amounts of money I mean we're already dealing with high costs this is just going to add more", "start": 5873.56, "end": 5880.239}, {"text": "cost to protecting somebody who's trespassing so if we want to run a bylaw", "start": 5880.239, "end": 5887.36}, {"text": "we should run a bylaw that's going to protect the owners and the people that are working there not the people that", "start": 5887.36, "end": 5893}, {"text": "are trespassing and breaking a law um thank you very much for that and during sorry if I can just interrupt and during", "start": 5893, "end": 5899.32}, {"text": "Ribfest I believe we told over 30 cars a day and we have huge signs that designate", "start": 5899.32, "end": 5907.4}, {"text": "and tell people and I've been out there myself trying to tell people not to park there to again try to save people from", "start": 5907.4, "end": 5914.679}, {"text": "getting towed and people don't care people have been very verbal and", "start": 5914.679, "end": 5922.08}, {"text": "offensive and they just leave their cars there and they and this and they don't", "start": 5922.08, "end": 5927.679}, {"text": "take the cars and park them on White Oaks they take them to a pound and they have to go to the pound", "start": 5927.679, "end": 5934.719}, {"text": "so I think that's just some misinformation oh no I didn't mean that they were being stored on White Oaks I", "start": 5934.719, "end": 5940.239}, {"text": "meant that the towing company was um moving the vehicle temporarily to White", "start": 5940.239, "end": 5946.84}, {"text": "Oaks to then properly secure it to the towing vehicle before actually taking it to the storage yard wherever that is um", "start": 5946.84, "end": 5954.84}, {"text": "is there a way of uh having a record of how many vehicles are towed in a year off the lot it would be 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have any way of knowing that but thank you very much for your time", "start": 5998.719, "end": 6003.92}, {"text": "tonight councelor MCN thank you through your worship to the delegates um see you", "start": 6004.88, "end": 6010.56}, {"text": "have such an issue with parking why don't you charge for parking uh that would be something that the landlord would have to do we're just", "start": 6010.56, "end": 6016.599}, {"text": "a tenant that would not be something that uh I could conduct okay and is the landlord here tonight or you're", "start": 6016.599, "end": 6022.8}, {"text": "representing the the landlord uh I'm not sure if the landlord is here tonight okay and uh if you're worried", "start": 6022.8, "end": 6028.88}, {"text": "about trespass anyone can come onto a public property if there's a front door for Access so entering a property is not", "start": 6028.88, "end": 6035.88}, {"text": "trespass is that correct sorry entering a property just", "start": 6035.88, "end": 6041.159}, {"text": "the property so nobody's allowed on your property you're saying that that that they're trespassing because they've entered your property if they're not", "start": 6041.159, "end": 6047.679}, {"text": "conducting business on the property okay so why don't you use the trespass act then", "start": 6047.679, "end": 6053.679}, {"text": "I I'm not sure how that works if with the trespa okay trespass act I'm sorry you saw from our staff that the trespass", "start": 6053.679, "end": 6060.96}, {"text": "Act is is one of your options if you feel that many people are trespassing on your property but we don't know who the", "start": 6060.96, "end": 6066.88}, {"text": "individual is but you're towing their vehicle their vehicle sorry I'm not", "start": 6066.88, "end": 6073.84}, {"text": "maybe I'm a misunderstanding but their vehicle is illegally on the property okay and you asked about", "start": 6073.84, "end": 6078.92}, {"text": "administrative penalties um so maybe staff can clarify because that penalty would be against you if you're towing", "start": 6078.92, "end": 6085.04}, {"text": "and and contravention of the bylaw is my understanding through your worship", "start": 6085.04, "end": 6090.32}, {"text": "perhaps I can I can shed some light on a couple of things um councelor MCN is correct that the $300 penalty in the", "start": 6090.32, "end": 6096.8}, {"text": "escalating penalty system is is designed to be against either the tow operator or", "start": 6096.8, "end": 6103.28}, {"text": "the property owner manager should they be Towing without authorization uh while", "start": 6103.28, "end": 6109.159}, {"text": "Towing because you have two two opportunities one as councelor mcnees", "start": 6109.159, "end": 6114.28}, {"text": "had suggested is to tow or remove a vehicle under trespass to property act the other is under the bylaw the", "start": 6114.28, "end": 6120.639}, {"text": "distinct differences between the two are trespass to property really um puts the", "start": 6120.639, "end": 6126.36}, {"text": "onus on the property owner so if they're uh using that they would have to contact", "start": 6126.36, "end": 6131.84}, {"text": "Halton Regional Police advise of the toe provide any process that hrps may have", "start": 6131.84, "end": 6137.76}, {"text": "as far as uh conducting a toe under under the trespassed property act um but", "start": 6137.76, "end": 6143}, {"text": "they would be responsible for that cost you may be able to recoup it down the road but the property owner would be", "start": 6143, "end": 6148.119}, {"text": "responsible for that the bylaw allows um the the vehicle to be removed while", "start": 6148.119, "end": 6154.96}, {"text": "having the vehicle owner responsible for the cost of of the toe so uh again it it", "start": 6154.96, "end": 6160.679}, {"text": "holds them accountable for for that particular piece um and I can go back to", "start": 6160.679, "end": 6165.8}, {"text": "maybe the Uber driver scenario uh again if somebody is uh on the property", "start": 6165.8, "end": 6171.92}, {"text": "loitering we'll say uh they are not using any services within the property you could absolutely", "start": 6171.92, "end": 6178.76}, {"text": "uh go through the trespass to property component so rather than the bylaw and", "start": 6178.76, "end": 6184.76}, {"text": "just one final question so do you currently use mleo to ticket uh no we don't we try so you just", "start": 6184.76, "end": 6191.639}, {"text": "tow you don't take it that's correct okay thank you Mr s thanks very much for your time", "start": 6191.639, "end": 6198.199}, {"text": "and your information thank you your wish oh sorry councelor", "start": 6198.199, "end": 6206.36}, {"text": "omera thank you very much your worship I appreciate it thank you claudo for coming I was going to run up and get you some water there but I didn't want to", "start": 6206.36, "end": 6211.96}, {"text": "make a scene um and no you know you've always come out and you've you you've you've ad you know advocated on behalf", "start": 6211.96, "end": 6218.8}, {"text": "of of the property owner um for for you know people to obey you know what they", "start": 6218.8, "end": 6225.159}, {"text": "should be doing and I and I appreciate that um I was a little shocked at the number 10 to 15 a day um that that you", "start": 6225.159, "end": 6231.239}, {"text": "say are being towed would you classify then the threat of being immediately towed if you leave the property as", "start": 6231.239, "end": 6237.28}, {"text": "working then yes it works I mean people notice that the cars are being towed so they", "start": 6237.28, "end": 6243.679}, {"text": "defer against parking there we've tried in the past to work with Sheridan", "start": 6243.679, "end": 6249.08}, {"text": "College to provide better signage not only on our property but on Sheridan College because it is mostly the", "start": 6249.08, "end": 6254.239}, {"text": "students that part there and Sheridan College would not cooperate with us so", "start": 6254.239, "end": 6259.48}, {"text": "there's a we've had signs throughout the restaurant we encourage our staff to tell people", "start": 6259.48, "end": 6265.599}, {"text": "not to park um if they're parking there and they're parking overnight to get parking passes um so that they can leave", "start": 6265.599, "end": 6271.48}, {"text": "their cars overnight uh there's different remedies that we've tried over the years and we did try ticketing and", "start": 6271.48, "end": 6278.56}, {"text": "it didn't work we tried calling bylaw officers but of course we could only get the bylaw officer once a day and with", "start": 6278.56, "end": 6285.76}, {"text": "the number of cars that we tow once a day just wasn't enough and that's sorry that's in the height of of course", "start": 6285.76, "end": 6292.719}, {"text": "different different times of the year let's say September October and then January February when we have students", 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through the", "start": 6335.48, "end": 6341.96}, {"text": "process of definitely getting their car back or making sure that they can get to their car wherever it's been told to in", "start": 6341.96, "end": 6347.44}, {"text": "the storage area and I do whatever I can on my part to provide them some restitution either buying them a meal I", "start": 6347.44, "end": 6355.44}, {"text": "mean that's accidental and if it happens a few times a year it would be", "start": 6355.44, "end": 6361.84}, {"text": "very few compared to the ones that have been told properly so you now as the the", "start": 6361.84, "end": 6367.679}, {"text": "tenant of a property have to compensate for what the private property owner uh", "start": 6367.679, "end": 6373.56}, {"text": "does not have to do or the toe person who made the spotter was distracted thought he saw or she saw something they", "start": 6373.56, "end": 6380.8}, {"text": "don't have to do any restitution that comes out of your pocket to try and make your customer feel like they weren't", "start": 6380.8, "end": 6387.52}, {"text": "taken advantage of from and what you said I don't know why we call it predatory Towing but in this case it", "start": 6387.52, "end": 6394.52}, {"text": "would be considered that because they did not do anything wrong so that comes out of your pocket in order to make them", "start": 6394.52, "end": 6399.599}, {"text": "feel like they weren't slighted yes it does but it outweighs", "start": 6399.599, "end": 6404.8}, {"text": "the amount of cars that some days when we weren't Towing when we have 30 40 50 60 cars in our parking lot and if", "start": 6404.8, "end": 6412.08}, {"text": "they're taking up that much Park that many parking spots there are no there's no parking left for our for our", "start": 6412.08, "end": 6417.56}, {"text": "customers and it did get to that point it got to the point where I was showing up at 7 o'clock in the morning to deter", "start": 6417.56, "end": 6426.159}, {"text": "people from parking there okay thank you very much thank and thank you for coming clao I appreciate it thank you worship thank you counselor", "start": 6426.159, "end": 6433.84}, {"text": "um Claudio thanks again thank you um Madam clerk would just before you", "start": 6433.84, "end": 6439.76}, {"text": "call the next delegation Council we won't get through the meeting if we debate the uh uh delegations uh so let's", "start": 6439.76, "end": 6451}, {"text": "and I'm not saying that the solicitation of information was debate I'm just saying that let's be careful as we go", "start": 6451, "end": 6457.88}, {"text": "forward uh Madam clerk the next delegation is Mike", "start": 6457.88, "end": 6464.199}, {"text": "Cho welcome Mr Cho Council looks forward to your information do I like speak through this yeah", "start": 6469.159, "end": 6476.04}, {"text": "okay uh good evening members of the city councilors I am speaking today as a", "start": 6476.04, "end": 6481.159}, {"text": "concerned property manager and taxpayer to express my opposition to the bylaw of 2024", "start": 6481.159, "end": 6487.199}, {"text": "187 while regulating vehicle Towing without owner consent in Oakville is", "start": 6487.199, "end": 6492.28}, {"text": "what your main concern is all about I know you seek out proper predatory Towing but in some cases in the city of", "start": 6492.28, "end": 6499.599}, {"text": "Oakville there's certain lots that are considered to be too much parking or where the person", "start": 6499.599, "end": 6506.04}, {"text": "leaves unexpectedly and will go to let's say most of the places that what Claudia", "start": 6506.04, "end": 6511.639}, {"text": "was talking about is Sheridan College those students they spent around six to seven hours in Sheridan", "start": 6511.639, "end": 6520.04}, {"text": "College the 1 hour waiting period is already exceeded I know that a bylaw", "start": 6520.239, "end": 6526.44}, {"text": "officer is needed to be called and ticket the person for $300 additional to section two removal", "start": 6526.44, "end": 6533.719}, {"text": "of law established common law rights to deal with trespassing Vehicles this limits the property owner's ability to", "start": 6533.719, "end": 6539.199}, {"text": "manage their space and duplicated existing provincial laws like the Towing and storage safety acts that's already", "start": 6539.199, "end": 6545.36}, {"text": "protecting the consumers which already provides um I urge the city to consider", "start": 6545.36, "end": 6552.28}, {"text": "the this legislation to work with the stakeholders and develop a fair solution that protects both property owners and", "start": 6552.28, "end": 6559.08}, {"text": "consumers I know a great idea and I've considered that maybe all of you have", "start": 6559.08, "end": 6564.36}, {"text": "arised it's Pro pilot project aimed to the point you guys are seeking like what", "start": 6564.36, "end": 6570.239}, {"text": "we speak of is Bronte I know that you guys all been having complaints from Bronte if that is the the case then I'm", "start": 6570.239, "end": 6577.679}, {"text": "sure that you guys can work with the stakeholders and see if there's a better solution to figure out if this bylaw", "start": 6577.679, "end": 6584.32}, {"text": "will have a great effect for the people in Brony that's all thank you thank you", "start": 6584.32, "end": 6589.92}, {"text": "sir do you have any questions for me or I would love to answer anything just councelor Adams will coun Adams has", "start": 6589.92, "end": 6597.56}, {"text": "accepted the challenge could you could you just tell me which Plaza is it that you're working out is it the the same", "start": 6597.56, "end": 6603.719}, {"text": "Raba manahan Plaza or I've seen I've seen a lot of plazas um most of the but", "start": 6603.719, "end": 6608.92}, {"text": "which one but which one are you working I not working I'm just I'm just there as like a property manager I've seen what's", "start": 6608.92, "end": 6615.199}, {"text": "goes on um the most concern I've seen is at the hospital the hospital if there", "start": 6615.199, "end": 6620.36}, {"text": "was a 1 hour waiting time the there you can tell like the health system Mr sorry", "start": 6620.36, "end": 6625.679}, {"text": "about that the councelor just wants to know which Plaza you were oh the hospital uh Sun Valley Sun Valley yeah", "start": 6625.679, "end": 6632.639}, {"text": "thank you thank you the next delegation is Tariq", "start": 6632.639, "end": 6640.92}, {"text": "Den Mr Den T Den", "start": 6645.96, "end": 6652.239}, {"text": "Madame clerk the next delegation the next delegation is Michael", "start": 6652.96, "end": 6659.28}, {"text": "peretta Mr Pera welcome Council looks forward to your information thank you uh", "start": 6659.28, "end": 6664.36}, {"text": "good evening and uh thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to uh express our concerns um we are property", "start": 6664.36, "end": 6671}, {"text": "managers uh and uh specifically the building that um we have a grave concern", "start": 6671, "end": 6677.56}, {"text": "over uh by the way I did submit on next next slide thank", "start": 6677.56, "end": 6683.4}, {"text": "you um the building that we are uh managing and that we have uh grave", "start": 6683.4, "end": 6689.159}, {"text": "concern over is at 465 more than drive more than Road rather and it is", "start": 6689.159, "end": 6695.8}, {"text": "primarily a medical building uh and Dell medical is in there and various other uh", "start": 6695.8, "end": 6702.36}, {"text": "medical services and um uh certainly this proposed", "start": 6702.36, "end": 6707.52}, {"text": "bylaw uh has no benefits for the tenants in general or the the general public uh", "start": 6707.52, "end": 6715.56}, {"text": "trespass is a trespass and it's illegal secondly contrary to federal provintial", "start": 6715.56, "end": 6720.92}, {"text": "laws this bylaw is in contravention of it very simple plain and Common Sense uh", "start": 6720.92, "end": 6728.56}, {"text": "who would give authority to have their vehicle towed put up your hands if you'd give somebody the authority to to uh tow", "start": 6728.56, "end": 6735.639}, {"text": "your vehicle of course not so I don't know why that's even part of The Proposal you might as well just get get", "start": 6735.639, "end": 6742.639}, {"text": "to the point and say okay we're not going to we're going to take property rights away and we're not going to let you tow uh illegal Vehicles off your", "start": 6742.639, "end": 6750.719}, {"text": "property uh thirdly um uh see I'll jump to number four uh it's not supported by", "start": 6750.719, "end": 6757.199}, {"text": "the community because I'll give you a good example where U somebody pulled um", "start": 6757.199, "end": 6763.4}, {"text": "inside a drive actually it was my home somebody pulled in uh the driveway blocked the", "start": 6763.4, "end": 6768.96}, {"text": "driveway and the person didn't get even get out of the car and so I was concerned about approaching", "start": 6768.96, "end": 6775.599}, {"text": "the vehicle and I called the police 20 30 minutes later the police arrived the", "start": 6775.599, "end": 6781.119}, {"text": "person is still in the vehicle and when the police came they um of course went and uh tried to wake up", "start": 6781.119, "end": 6788.48}, {"text": "the individual that was in there it's either drunk or passed out but the point", "start": 6788.48, "end": 6794.96}, {"text": "is how can you accept that as being legal where the individual purposely", "start": 6794.96, "end": 6801.239}, {"text": "blocks your driveway and if there's an emergency you can't even get out of your driveway makes no", "start": 6801.239, "end": 6807.88}, {"text": "sense okay I'll jump over to uh oh number five tenants objection uh to the", "start": 6807.88, "end": 6813.079}, {"text": "proposed bylaw let me very quickly um point out one uh uh letter", "start": 6813.079, "end": 6818.32}, {"text": "that one of our tenants gave me of course we didn't have much of an opportunity to prepare for this because I only found out three or four days ago", "start": 6818.32, "end": 6825.32}, {"text": "about this proposed bylaw um and the individual is a uh ATT", "start": 6825.32, "end": 6831.28}, {"text": "tenant medical service and says um uh good evening Michael", "start": 6831.28, "end": 6836.639}, {"text": "Please be aware that my uh colleague has had difficulties in getting out of the parking lot and patients have had", "start": 6836.639, "end": 6843.84}, {"text": "difficulties getting into the parking lot on Fridays when um at another", "start": 6843.84, "end": 6849.52}, {"text": "building they don't have sufficient parking spaces we all know what building that is I understand that there is", "start": 6849.52, "end": 6856.4}, {"text": "something on the table to allow observers to park in the lot located at", "start": 6856.4, "end": 6861.44}, {"text": "465 Morton Road that's the building that we manage have signed a petition to", "start": 6861.44, "end": 6867.239}, {"text": "prevent this from happening and then they explain and so on but I don't have much time to go", "start": 6867.239, "end": 6873.119}, {"text": "through their explanation but I did submit a um a list of our tenants there", "start": 6873.119, "end": 6880.84}, {"text": "not all of them had the opportunity to sign it but half of them did and very clearly they're pointing out that their", "start": 6880.84, "end": 6888.88}, {"text": "patients would have great difficulty if all of a sudden they couldn't find a parking spot inside a parking space", "start": 6888.88, "end": 6896.04}, {"text": "they're paying for the parking okay so why would we accept having trespassers", "start": 6896.04, "end": 6902.52}, {"text": "just park in in our parking lot where patients would have to park where on the", "start": 6902.52, "end": 6908.599}, {"text": "road makes no sense okay um another point I'd like to", "start": 6908.599, "end": 6914.52}, {"text": "make is um that number six it it would cause an increase in injury in risk of", "start": 6914.52, "end": 6920.76}, {"text": "injury to tenants if you have a parking lot full and somebody else parks on", "start": 6920.76, "end": 6926.719}, {"text": "there not even in the parking spots and again according to this BW you can't have them", "start": 6926.719, "end": 6932.56}, {"text": "towed and um all of a sudden now the other cars can't get out makes no", "start": 6932.56, "end": 6938.92}, {"text": "sense number seven owners tenants patients and clients pay taxes for", "start": 6938.92, "end": 6945.56}, {"text": "parking there and so if you have somebody trespassing are they paying the taxes to the town or the city", "start": 6945.56, "end": 6953.119}, {"text": "of course not and so what gives them the right to trespass", "start": 6953.119, "end": 6959.32}, {"text": "and they would have to give their permission to have their vehicles towed", "start": 6959.32, "end": 6964.52}, {"text": "how many people are going to give permission to have it towed are you kidding me number eight insurance will not cover", "start": 6964.52, "end": 6972.48}, {"text": "damages caused by illegal parking and I'm not sure if whoever drafted this", "start": 6972.48, "end": 6978.04}, {"text": "bylaw are you aware of that or committee or whoever came up with is okay as a", "start": 6978.04, "end": 6983.639}, {"text": "matter of fact I'll quote you our insurance policy and it the insurance company is Unika Insurance one of the", "start": 6983.639, "end": 6990.32}, {"text": "largest for property U for commercial properties and I'll I'll uh uh just", "start": 6990.32, "end": 6998.28}, {"text": "quote the uh relevant part it is item five common exclusions in other words", "start": 6998.28, "end": 7004.28}, {"text": "they will not cover this and in item C it says approximately or remotely", "start": 7004.28, "end": 7010.56}, {"text": "arising in consequence of or contributed to by enforcement of any bylaw exactly", "start": 7010.56, "end": 7018.079}, {"text": "what this proposed bylaw it's a bylaw right insurance company will not cover", "start": 7018.079, "end": 7023.4}, {"text": "any damages so who will be responsible the city or town or the", "start": 7023.4, "end": 7029.239}, {"text": "owners okay so please consider that very carefully there could be millions of dollars in uh in lawsuits and so on by", "start": 7029.239, "end": 7037.96}, {"text": "obviously patients that are parking there by our tenants that pay to be there and so", "start": 7037.96, "end": 7043.719}, {"text": "on um I'll jump to the um uh oh and number 10 I'll jump to", "start": 7043.719, "end": 7050}, {"text": "number 10 fewer spaces are available in Winter because it's snow removal and", "start": 7050, "end": 7055.159}, {"text": "obviously uh we wouldn't have as many spaces uh so somebody else trespasses", "start": 7055.159, "end": 7060.28}, {"text": "again decides to park there and then when a patient comes for their appointment they can't park there is", "start": 7060.28, "end": 7067.079}, {"text": "that right next uh next slide please", "start": 7067.079, "end": 7073.84}, {"text": "okay well I've already made the point the vehicle owners will never agree to have their vehicles towed so this just absolutely ridiculous in uh in that uh", "start": 7074.079, "end": 7082.599}, {"text": "proposed bylaw in every case the police or bylaw Personnel would have to be", "start": 7082.599, "end": 7087.84}, {"text": "involved well does the town have a lot of people doing nothing and therefore coming to", "start": 7087.84, "end": 7094.76}, {"text": "properties in order to wait for an hour oh by the way who's going to be waiting", "start": 7094.76, "end": 7100.199}, {"text": "there on behalf of the uh property owner ERS okay I mean we manage properties all", "start": 7100.199, "end": 7105.56}, {"text": "over and we're going to be there waiting for somebody to park illegally makes no", "start": 7105.56, "end": 7112.199}, {"text": "sense okay increas in cost with no benefits to the public okay number four increase in cost", "start": 7112.199, "end": 7119.4}, {"text": "for owners to protect their rights number five increase in contamination of the property you have", "start": 7119.4, "end": 7125}, {"text": "more vehicles on there and therefore you have oil and so on from the vehicles and", "start": 7125, "end": 7132.239}, {"text": "so who's going to pay for the extra uh repairs and maintenance to the property the town will you volunteer to pay for", "start": 7132.239, "end": 7139.32}, {"text": "it it's a roral question obviously okay number six increase in", "start": 7139.32, "end": 7145.48}, {"text": "wear and tear of the parking lots the same reasoning next slide", "start": 7145.48, "end": 7151}, {"text": "please I guess one of them is missing there but I'll just um uh make a couple", "start": 7151.48, "end": 7157.239}, {"text": "of points uh concerning the uh slide that is missing there", "start": 7157.239, "end": 7164.04}, {"text": "okay actually those are the main points I echoed with some of the points that U", "start": 7170.76, "end": 7175.96}, {"text": "the other gentleman made the first gentleman I forget his name claudo right so I was going to repeat obviously I'm", "start": 7175.96, "end": 7182.28}, {"text": "not going to repeat the same points that he made but I Echo his concerns except ours is even greater because it involves", "start": 7182.28, "end": 7189.32}, {"text": "patients that are trying to get into the building and they would not be able to get in if", "start": 7189.32, "end": 7195.199}, {"text": "other people are trespassing and parking their vehicles there any", "start": 7195.199, "end": 7200.599}, {"text": "questions U Mr Paretta I want to thank you very much for saying me too instead", "start": 7200.599, "end": 7206.44}, {"text": "of repeating Claudio's arguments that's very considerate of you and I do appreciate that you're very welcome", "start": 7206.44, "end": 7212.119}, {"text": "councilor eler has a question for you thank you for coming what is your proposed solution in a in a nutsh show", "start": 7212.119, "end": 7219.079}, {"text": "oh yes as a matter of fact um uh I do have some suggestions and uh of course", "start": 7219.079, "end": 7224.76}, {"text": "it's up to the people the people that are trespassing that could apply this", "start": 7224.76, "end": 7230.8}, {"text": "and uh one suggestion would be to U uh", "start": 7230.8, "end": 7235.84}, {"text": "have they can organize a car pool and instead of um you know five cars it'd be", "start": 7235.84, "end": 7243.36}, {"text": "one car uh going to their parking lot another suggestion would be higher Uber", "start": 7243.36, "end": 7250.48}, {"text": "lift whatever I'm not trying to promote them in any way but certainly that would be another alternative instead of", "start": 7250.48, "end": 7256.48}, {"text": "trespassing on other people's properties and causing more danger another uh alternative would be", "start": 7256.48, "end": 7263.639}, {"text": "public transportation usually the buses are not full okay so what is wrong with taking", "start": 7263.639, "end": 7270.199}, {"text": "public transportation to wherever they want to get to again instead of parking in other people's parking spaces where", "start": 7270.199, "end": 7277.32}, {"text": "patients would not be able to park uh and um I did have a couple of", "start": 7277.32, "end": 7283.84}, {"text": "other um uh points if I can quickly uh find them don't worry I think I", "start": 7283.84, "end": 7290.639}, {"text": "understand you're concerned only about one specific location where they're parking NE on your location oh I I'm", "start": 7290.639, "end": 7296.239}, {"text": "concerned about all of Oakville quite frankly well it's hard to get everybody to carpool someplace in Oakville so like", "start": 7296.239, "end": 7302.599}, {"text": "I I I see what you're saying well it can be done it could be encouraged thank you any other questions at all counc", "start": 7302.599, "end": 7310.88}, {"text": "Chisum has accepted the challenge thank you a challenge to be um we had one one", "start": 7310.88, "end": 7318.199}, {"text": "statement that uh one of our owners uh uh car lifting 10 to 15 cars a day how", "start": 7318.199, "end": 7324.239}, {"text": "many are you lifting out of your parking lot on a daily Bas how have we had how many you're towing away on a daily basis", "start": 7324.239, "end": 7330.28}, {"text": "not many not many because we have signage there and actually I had photos", "start": 7330.28, "end": 7336}, {"text": "I don't know if um if they arrived in time that's okay just just for numbers of our parking lot which is usually full", "start": 7336, "end": 7343.04}, {"text": "y okay thank you okay anything else thank you Mr Pera thank you appreciate", "start": 7343.04, "end": 7348.48}, {"text": "the opportunity to uh make our points it was good to hear from you madam clerk", "start": 7348.48, "end": 7354.84}, {"text": "the next delegate is John Tino Mr Tino welcome Council looks forward to your", "start": 7354.84, "end": 7363.84}, {"text": "information uh good evening your uh your worship and honorable members of council", "start": 7368.119, "end": 7373.32}, {"text": "my predecessor here stole my thunder um I have a lot of similar comments uh I'm", "start": 7373.32, "end": 7379.88}, {"text": "here today to express our concerns regarding the proposed bylaw number 2024", "start": 7379.88, "end": 7385.4}, {"text": "187 which is intended to regulate the towing of any vehicle without the vehicle owner's consent from land in the", "start": 7385.4, "end": 7391.56}, {"text": "town of Oakville the primary concern of my business partners and myself relates to", "start": 7391.56, "end": 7396.88}, {"text": "our uh commercial property located at 481 morn Road in Oakville", "start": 7396.88, "end": 7402.199}, {"text": "which is located north of Spears uh one block west of dval for those of you that are not familiar with the area morn road", "start": 7402.199, "end": 7409.92}, {"text": "comes to a dead end at the train tracks just south of the qw our property is situated next door to", "start": 7409.92, "end": 7416.88}, {"text": "a place of worship located at 485 morn Road and our property is leas of four", "start": 7416.88, "end": 7422.36}, {"text": "tenants and parking on our property is limited to the tenants their employees", "start": 7422.36, "end": 7427.8}, {"text": "and their clients throughout the week and Friday afternoons in particular uh the place of", "start": 7427.8, "end": 7434.599}, {"text": "worship next door engages in prayer sessions attended attended by hundreds of people and parking on Moran Road and", "start": 7434.599, "end": 7441.159}, {"text": "all neighboring properties is very challenging on most Fridays the parking", "start": 7441.159, "end": 7446.4}, {"text": "spots designated for our tenants and their clients become occupied by the public attending the prayer session", "start": 7446.4, "end": 7453.159}, {"text": "without our or our tenants permit or conent consent while our property has adequate", "start": 7453.159, "end": 7460.48}, {"text": "signage regarding parking being limited to tenants and clients of the building this alone does not stop people from", "start": 7460.48, "end": 7466.44}, {"text": "parking on our property without permission our lease agreements that are signed with our tenants obligate us to", "start": 7466.44, "end": 7473.44}, {"text": "provide and maintain sufficient parking accordingly our company is at risk of a breach of our contracts if we", "start": 7473.44, "end": 7480.079}, {"text": "are unable to secure access to these parking spots at all times we have obligations to maintain", "start": 7480.079, "end": 7486.84}, {"text": "the parking spots for our tenants exclusive use and that includes the cost of snow and removal of of uh debris that", "start": 7486.84, "end": 7494.8}, {"text": "our company currently pays for our tenants rent includes usage of", "start": 7494.8, "end": 7500.119}, {"text": "these parking spots and as they pay for these parking spots every month they rightfully expect to be able to use them", "start": 7500.119, "end": 7506.88}, {"text": "without any issues and without any interference of the", "start": 7506.88, "end": 7511.8}, {"text": "public while we understand and appreciate the purpose and the reasoning behind this proposed bylaw we believe", "start": 7511.92, "end": 7518.119}, {"text": "our situation is quite unique uh as a result we request considering the possibility of an", "start": 7518.119, "end": 7524.199}, {"text": "exemption I I believe in the presentation that was made earlier there was an exemption for special events I'm", "start": 7524.199, "end": 7530.639}, {"text": "I'm not sure what's considered Under the Umbrella of special events but I do hope that um our situation would fall under", "start": 7530.639, "end": 7537.239}, {"text": "that umbrella currently so my understanding", "start": 7537.239, "end": 7542.28}, {"text": "of the of the proposed process is as follows um first off provided that the", "start": 7542.28, "end": 7547.599}, {"text": "subject vehicle is parked or stopped in our parking lot and the B boundaries of the of the land have been clearly", "start": 7547.599, "end": 7553.76}, {"text": "defined and signs have been posted in accordance with Section six of this bylaw then and only then we must proceed", "start": 7553.76, "end": 7561.199}, {"text": "with the following steps one we must issue a penalty notice by a municipal law enforcement officer a mobile", "start": 7561.199, "end": 7568.559}, {"text": "compliance officer a police officer or the director in respect of the vehicle", "start": 7568.559, "end": 7574.079}, {"text": "uh step two a waiting period of 1 hour it must have uh must have elapsed uh step three if the toll is", "start": 7574.079, "end": 7580.559}, {"text": "authorized by the Municipal law enforcement officer that officer shall first consult with and receive approval", "start": 7580.559, "end": 7587.639}, {"text": "from the director prior to the toe being authorized and then step four either the", "start": 7587.639, "end": 7592.84}, {"text": "municipal law enforcement officer or the mobile compliance officer or the director then has to notify the police", "start": 7592.84, "end": 7599.639}, {"text": "of the impending toe prior to the actual toe occurring having to go through all of", "start": 7599.639, "end": 7605.84}, {"text": "these steps of the process outlined in the proposed bylaw in practicality can take several hours and undoubtedly will", "start": 7605.84, "end": 7612.88}, {"text": "take longer than the offender will be illegally utilizing the parking space", "start": 7612.88, "end": 7618.159}, {"text": "meanwhile our tenants and or their clients visiting their place of employment will likely be unable to use", "start": 7618.159, "end": 7624}, {"text": "the parking spots that have been designated for them as a result our tenants business", "start": 7624, "end": 7629.52}, {"text": "operations will undoubtedly be interrupted if their staff and their clients are unable to park in the spots", "start": 7629.52, "end": 7634.92}, {"text": "that they have P paid for we are deeply concerned that ours", "start": 7634.92, "end": 7641.52}, {"text": "and our tenants businesses will be significantly impacted with this change and our lease agreements with current", "start": 7641.52, "end": 7646.88}, {"text": "and future tenants will be impacted as well I did notice that in the appendix", "start": 7646.88, "end": 7653.28}, {"text": "to the bylaw I believe on page seven under Section Five uh prohibitions under", "start": 7653.28, "end": 7658.719}, {"text": "2E there is reference made to exceptions and as I said earlier we would hope that our um our situation would fall within", "start": 7658.719, "end": 7665.8}, {"text": "those exceptions in conclusion we respectfully request that you reconsider opposing the", "start": 7665.8, "end": 7672}, {"text": "bylaw or find a more suitable solution that adequately balances the needs of the Town its residents and the", "start": 7672, "end": 7678.719}, {"text": "businesses of the town of Oakville thank you thank you Mr Tino", "start": 7678.719, "end": 7684.199}, {"text": "councelor Amira has a question for you thank you and I I'm I'm sensing a common", "start": 7684.199, "end": 7690.04}, {"text": "theme and I've been on morn Road on Friday afternoons and I understand you can't even turn up it so I I understand", "start": 7690.04, "end": 7696.119}, {"text": "that the frustrations there and I think that's something that that needs to be tackled regardless of what happens here", "start": 7696.119, "end": 7702.119}, {"text": "tonight I guess my question have you contacted the town's bylaw services and said can you please come and enforce our", "start": 7702.119, "end": 7708.159}, {"text": "lot on Fridays and and do what you need to do have you been down that road with our staff we have been down that road", "start": 7708.159, "end": 7714.4}, {"text": "and it it it's either the the time to have somebody attend the site is is prohibitive I mean", "start": 7714.4, "end": 7720.88}, {"text": "these people could be there from anywhere from half an hour 45 minutes up to two hours it it varies and it depends", "start": 7720.88, "end": 7728.44}, {"text": "and we've just found that unless we're physically there ready to deal with it uh prior to them", "start": 7728.44, "end": 7734.44}, {"text": "arriving it it it becomes a becomes an issue and and we've heard that the town has about", "start": 7734.44, "end": 7740.32}, {"text": "114 U Municipal licensed officers who who somebody from your 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7783.679}, {"text": "yeah I understand there there's the process going forward and back and I know there are bigger challenges in your specific area but I'm just I'm I think I", "start": 7783.679, "end": 7790.719}, {"text": "think there are some things already that are in place that this bylaw won't be in EN Force if it passes if it doesn't", "start": 7790.719, "end": 7796.28}, {"text": "that's fine for months uh to come but there are some things that I think maybe working with our staff that we can do", "start": 7796.28, "end": 7801.92}, {"text": "for that stretch on that street that that can can at least start to again create the culture that it's not okay to", "start": 7801.92, "end": 7807.719}, {"text": "do what's been happening on people's private property so perhaps we can follow up with that after but I there are options in this in this bylaw which", "start": 7807.719, "end": 7815.159}, {"text": "which I think are going to work and I think you know um um can work to try and change the culture of park anywhere it's", "start": 7815.159, "end": 7821.559}, {"text": "all open and and I think that's maybe we can all agree that that needs to be addressed you know it's I think it's", "start": 7821.559, "end": 7826.92}, {"text": "just how we get there but I appreciate you coming and I understand completely on morn Road a lot of the concerns that", "start": 7826.92, "end": 7832.719}, {"text": "that you guys have and I I uh I understand it entirely and and will endeavor to work with my War Two counselors as best we can to make sure", "start": 7832.719, "end": 7839.04}, {"text": "that we can address those issues so thank you thank you uh councelor has the", "start": 7839.04, "end": 7844.48}, {"text": "deal just the same questions that we asked some of the others um how many would you tow in a in a day um so again", "start": 7844.48, "end": 7852.719}, {"text": "um Friday afternoons being the uh most significant issue it could range from", "start": 7852.719, "end": 7858.119}, {"text": "anywhere to three to five toes on a Friday afternoon and and in that", "start": 7858.119, "end": 7863.84}, {"text": "process um do you see repeat offenders um it's hard to say I mean", "start": 7863.84, "end": 7870.119}, {"text": "there okay the concentration of people attending for a defined period of time is so significant that it's it's hard to", "start": 7870.119, "end": 7877.84}, {"text": "trace license plates and track them all right I understand you're challenge thanks very", "start": 7877.84, "end": 7883}, {"text": "much perhaps every time you open up a spot a new uh a new user shows up two", "start": 7883, "end": 7891.119}, {"text": "yeah councelor Chisum thank you Mr Tino uh your", "start": 7891.119, "end": 7896.199}, {"text": "presentation and I understand and appreciate the concerns with with morn road we've been dealing with this almost", "start": 7896.199, "end": 7901.679}, {"text": "for many many years Kathy and I with respect to uh uh the situation on that because it's such a narrow road and it's", "start": 7901.679, "end": 7907.199}, {"text": "a dead end and there's uh uh businesses on the on the one side and the other side we have the uh the place of worship", "start": 7907.199, "end": 7915.079}, {"text": "Dar Foundation if I'm if I'm not mistaken it's the name of it um every Friday it's it's just a a surge of", "start": 7915.079, "end": 7921.559}, {"text": "hundreds of cars coming in and I think what we're talking about is something very special uh a sight specific issue", "start": 7921.559, "end": 7928.679}, {"text": "that we have for for the mor uh uh businesses and so forth I can appreciate", "start": 7928.679, "end": 7934.119}, {"text": "what what the uh report is doing but it doesn't it doesn't um help or or our our", "start": 7934.119, "end": 7940.679}, {"text": "our business owners on the on the uh uh morn Road uh and so um hopefully uh we", "start": 7940.679, "end": 7947.199}, {"text": "can look at this and and maybe defer or come up with some solutions sites specific for morn because uh we've been", "start": 7947.199, "end": 7954}, {"text": "dealing with this for so long and um I don't have any definite answers now but", "start": 7954, "end": 7959.159}, {"text": "I think that's something within the town and uh our staff and so for we work out some kind of solution because I know", "start": 7959.159, "end": 7964.96}, {"text": "it's been ongoing I get the calls all the time and and appreciate your your frustration and the uh all the business", "start": 7964.96, "end": 7970.599}, {"text": "owners and on that on that block so thanks very much for your presentation your thank you Mr", "start": 7970.599, "end": 7977.84}, {"text": "Tino Madam clerk the next delegation the next delegation is Maria", "start": 7977.84, "end": 7984.199}, {"text": "Imperial Miss Imperial welcome we look forward to your", "start": 7984.96, "end": 7991.76}, {"text": "information good evening mayor Burton and counselors thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak tonight", "start": 7994.84, "end": 8001.719}, {"text": "my name is Maran perali and I'm a licensed paralal I am here tonight on behalf of daff part Inc daav part Inc", "start": 8001.719, "end": 8009.679}, {"text": "are property owners and property managers of 2400 and 2420 lak Shore Road", "start": 8009.679, "end": 8015.36}, {"text": "West and 2411 to 2427 uh Marine Drive", "start": 8015.36, "end": 8021.8}, {"text": "Oakville 2411 2427 is a collection of Boutique retailers retail services and", "start": 8021.8, "end": 8028.84}, {"text": "10 apartments in Brony Harbor back in 2018 a committee meeting was", "start": 8028.84, "end": 8034.119}, {"text": "held by the merchants about a parking situation the", "start": 8034.119, "end": 8039.28}, {"text": "merchants the Bia and the property managers were all in attendance and a vote was held the main issue that", "start": 8039.28, "end": 8046.8}, {"text": "was the main issue that was discussed was that there was not enough parking for the customers and staff as there", "start": 8046.8, "end": 8053.719}, {"text": "were many vehicles that would park and go to the marina for the afternoon go golfing um and or go to other ven news a", "start": 8053.719, "end": 8062.239}, {"text": "vote was held and it was in favor to Institute parking enforcement by way of Towing the property managers have been", "start": 8062.239, "end": 8068.679}, {"text": "enforcing parking enforcement by way of Towing in order to ensure their tenants customers and staff have parking this", "start": 8068.679, "end": 8076.599}, {"text": "has been the most coste effective way which has not led to an increase in parking in operating expenses and has", "start": 8076.599, "end": 8083.4}, {"text": "allowed their businesses to continue to operate in Bronte on July 9 2024 we heard count", "start": 8083.4, "end": 8091.04}, {"text": "counselors and delegates state that there was a bad apple in the towing industry and we heard the Bia State why", "start": 8091.04, "end": 8098.079}, {"text": "come to Bronte only to have your vehicle towed we disagree with these", "start": 8098.079, "end": 8104.44}, {"text": "statements if there is a couple of towing companies op Towing and Bronte however only one main towing", "start": 8104.44, "end": 8111.84}, {"text": "company who has contracts for private property Towing how are they considered to be the Bad Apple and when it comes to", "start": 8111.84, "end": 8119.239}, {"text": "the statement why come to Brony only to have your vehicle towed anyone is", "start": 8119.239, "end": 8124.559}, {"text": "allowed to park so long as you follow the rules if an individual fails to obey", "start": 8124.559, "end": 8129.88}, {"text": "the rules their car will be towed they can't blame a tow truck driver if they", "start": 8129.88, "end": 8135.119}, {"text": "fail to obey the rules people tend to blame others um when they are upset just", "start": 8135.119, "end": 8142.239}, {"text": "as people blame police officers when they get a speeding ticket all of a sudden they weren't speeding and the", "start": 8142.239, "end": 8148.239}, {"text": "police officer was pointing the radar at the wrong individual people need to own up to their mistakes", "start": 8148.239, "end": 8154.639}, {"text": "by amending the bylaw the town of Oakville is not making it right for the property owners but is making it more", "start": 8154.639, "end": 8161.28}, {"text": "difficult for the property owners daff part has a couple of concerns if the bylaw were to be amended", "start": 8161.28, "end": 8168.52}, {"text": "number one it's already been discussed tonight liability concerns if property owners have to wait 1 hour or longer for", "start": 8168.52, "end": 8176.32}, {"text": "a municipal law enforcement officer or a police officer to attend to Au authorize the removal of a vehicle and something", "start": 8176.32, "end": 8183.639}, {"text": "happens during that time while it's illegally parked on daff part's property or any other property who is responsible", "start": 8183.639, "end": 8191.719}, {"text": "this is one of the reasons why Property Owners want unauthorized Vehicles removed from their property", "start": 8191.719, "end": 8199.359}, {"text": "immediately on July 9th uh 2024 it was also stated two other jurisdictions were", "start": 8199.36, "end": 8206.24}, {"text": "mentioned that have similar bylaw in place to that which which is being proposed to the town of Oakville the two", "start": 8206.24, "end": 8213.518}, {"text": "jurisdictions which was mentioned was the city of vaugh and the town of Whitby um I have had an opportunity to", "start": 8213.519, "end": 8221.08}, {"text": "review both bylaws unlike what the town of Oakville is proposing the city of vaugh has not remove the common law", "start": 8221.08, "end": 8227.96}, {"text": "option for private property tow removal nor do they have a time and place of 1", "start": 8227.96, "end": 8233.2}, {"text": "hour as to how long a property owner must wait before a vehicle can be removed from their property in the town", "start": 8233.2, "end": 8239.678}, {"text": "of Whitby they did remove the common law option for property owners and it must", "start": 8239.679, "end": 8244.8}, {"text": "go through an enforcement officer and or a police officer however there is no time that they must wait uh such as half", "start": 8244.8, "end": 8252.8}, {"text": "an hour or an hour so they can call immediately if there is someone that is", "start": 8252.8, "end": 8259.08}, {"text": "parking um illegally the 1-hour grace period which the property owner must", "start": 8259.08, "end": 8264.638}, {"text": "wait prior to a municipal law enforcement officer attending will have consequences most people people can go", "start": 8264.639, "end": 8271.399}, {"text": "out shopping park their vehicles or go out to eat at a restaurant for 1 hour and in the meantime the tenants", "start": 8271.4, "end": 8277.359}, {"text": "customers won't have a place to park if the bylaw is passed daff part Inc has", "start": 8277.36, "end": 8283.04}, {"text": "advised that they will have no other choice but to hire security to control every other vehicle which enters their", "start": 8283.04, "end": 8288.8}, {"text": "parking lot as well as gating their property which will increase the operating cost to tenants by controlling", "start": 8288.8, "end": 8295.478}, {"text": "every vehicle which comes into their lot can cause traffic onto the road as well", "start": 8295.479, "end": 8301.24}, {"text": "I know that on July 9 2024 the statistics were not available as to how many private property TOS occurred on an", "start": 8301.24, "end": 8307.96}, {"text": "average per month how can a bylaw be changed without statistics when it can cause so much hardship to Property", "start": 8307.96, "end": 8314.359}, {"text": "Owners I have spoken to a couple of tow truck operators who are here today as well 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"attend and make arrangements to pick up that vehicle but it's a waste of time", "start": 8365.639, "end": 8370.84}, {"text": "for the tow truck uh sorry it's a waste of the tow truck driver's time and it's", "start": 8370.84, "end": 8375.88}, {"text": "an hour of that free parking it only benefits the town and it doesn't benefit", "start": 8375.88, "end": 8381.2}, {"text": "the property owner in any way um so we are requesting that the bylaw not be", "start": 8381.2, "end": 8386.359}, {"text": "amended and it remain as is and thank you and I'm open to answering any questions you may have thank you very", "start": 8386.36, "end": 8393.16}, {"text": "much uh councelor om has questions for you thank you very much thank you for coming I appreciate itk um you had", "start": 8393.16, "end": 8399.68}, {"text": "mentioned in your your comments and I quote people need to own up to their mistakes correct um just last week uh a", "start": 8399.68, "end": 8406.76}, {"text": "lady in my neighborhood was at a nail salon at your location when her car was illegally removed and she came out and", "start": 8406.76, "end": 8413.16}, {"text": "it wasn't there she went back in the nail salon had to call and the vehicle had to be brought back there so how does", "start": 8413.16, "end": 8418.76}, {"text": "your um client own up to their mistake okay I'm not familiar with that I'm only", "start": 8418.76, "end": 8424.24}, {"text": "here to speak on behalf of my client today but I do have the tow TR operator here perhaps he's familiar with that", "start": 8424.24, "end": 8430.439}, {"text": "well I mean you're the one who has the legal Authority and who is hired an individual to do a service for the", "start": 8430.439, "end": 8437.24}, {"text": "property or your client has I have had nine years of hearing these mistakes that have been made so", "start": 8437.24, "end": 8444}, {"text": "once again to ask you about your own words how does your client own up for their mistakes I'm I'm not familiar with", "start": 8444, "end": 8451.2}, {"text": "that with that with in general so in well in general if my client I I can't", "start": 8451.2, "end": 8456.479}, {"text": "speak with respect to that particular situation that took place and I'm sure that with whatever did take place I'm", "start": 8456.479, "end": 8463.08}, {"text": "sure that they they compensated that individual but I like I said I have the tow truck operator here and they can", "start": 8463.08, "end": 8469.64}, {"text": "probably speak with that so I can't say in I I'm I'm sorry now with respect to", "start": 8469.64, "end": 8475.92}, {"text": "what my comment was people need to own up to their mistakes is that they cannot say that I didn't see the sign or the", "start": 8475.92, "end": 8483.479}, {"text": "sign wasn't big enough they have to if their vehicle gets towed they they need to own up to that they need to be", "start": 8483.479, "end": 8490.04}, {"text": "responsible for that particular situation that they're", "start": 8490.04, "end": 8495.64}, {"text": "in thank you counselor uh Miss imperi Al thank you very much for your time and your information thank you if I can be", "start": 8496.88, "end": 8503.319}, {"text": "excused yes can thank you have a Madam clerk the next delegate is John KUSI", "start": 8503.319, "end": 8512.199}, {"text": "Mr KUSI welcome thank you we look forward to your information thank", "start": 8513.56, "end": 8518.6}, {"text": "you good evening everyone my name is John KUSI I'm speaking with you uh tonight with from two perspectives in", "start": 8518.6, "end": 8525.76}, {"text": "connection with the property at 481 Moren Road first on behalf of myself and my business partners Who as a group own", "start": 8525.76, "end": 8531.96}, {"text": "the property and second as a tenant in this building uh for over 27 years as a partner of a professional firm within", "start": 8531.96, "end": 8539.08}, {"text": "that building John Tino is actually one of my business partners so I'll keep my comments brief as he touched on a few", "start": 8539.08, "end": 8544.56}, {"text": "items but I'm going to address some other factors as well um so my concerns", "start": 8544.56, "end": 8549.72}, {"text": "as both a owner and tended include the following so uh jna touched on the breach of current lease obligations and", "start": 8549.72, "end": 8556.64}, {"text": "and the parking requirements that we have to provide for our tenants currently under the current rules we are", "start": 8556.64, "end": 8561.92}, {"text": "managing the situation because we do have the ability to tow on a timely basis and it hasn't been a concern so", "start": 8561.92, "end": 8569.2}, {"text": "whenever the um a lot of trafficing a lot of people trying to park on our properties we can manage it with the new proposed bylaws it will be a challenge", "start": 8569.2, "end": 8575.479}, {"text": "for us to ensure that we can oblige with our lease obligations and you also uh some there's", "start": 8575.479, "end": 8581.88}, {"text": "discussion on the DAR Foundation next door and the volume of cars on the Fridays again we were proactive and we", "start": 8581.88, "end": 8588.439}, {"text": "actually went to speak with our neighbors and address the concerns and they quite honestly we're we very cooperative and very good about the", "start": 8588.439, "end": 8594.84}, {"text": "situation so we tow about four or five on the Friday as John had mentioned but that's only because we're monitoring it", "start": 8594.84, "end": 8601.68}, {"text": "and we are Towing and they we had an agreement with our neighbors and they respect our rights and they told their", "start": 8601.68, "end": 8607.399}, {"text": "participants to not park next door so having said that if we now change the rules and they catch wind of the the new", "start": 8607.399, "end": 8614}, {"text": "proposed bylaws whereby we don't have the same rights and has all this extra time it's going to be a disaster for us", "start": 8614, "end": 8621}, {"text": "because as was mentioned um by Mr Mera Frid is is horrendous it's parked right", "start": 8621, "end": 8626.439}, {"text": "down to the end and our parking lot it has available spots but but if they were to park because of the new rules on our", "start": 8626.439, "end": 8633.439}, {"text": "property literally it'll fill it up and if employees go out to lunch and they come back they'll lose their spot and", "start": 8633.439, "end": 8639.359}, {"text": "they can't come back any customers Etc it'll be a real disaster and I think", "start": 8639.359, "end": 8644.88}, {"text": "many counselors are aware of the situation so the current rules work we can manage it and next door has been", "start": 8644.88, "end": 8651.319}, {"text": "very good so introducing this new rule will only uh cause problems for", "start": 8651.319, "end": 8657.359}, {"text": "us the potential liability issues as well um is a concern for us because of", "start": 8657.359, "end": 8663.04}, {"text": "the potential risk of extra car oxident slips and Falls Etc so that's been touched on many times so I concur with", "start": 8663.04, "end": 8669.319}, {"text": "that issue um also the potential increased crime that hasn't really been", "start": 8669.319, "end": 8674.84}, {"text": "mentioned this evening we are concerned if people have the ability to stay on the property for many hours uh", "start": 8674.84, "end": 8679.96}, {"text": "unattended U we have a concern with respect to that so in summary", "start": 8679.96, "end": 8685.68}, {"text": "um what what our ask is effectively is um consider the status quo and also to", "start": 8685.68, "end": 8692.76}, {"text": "consider um what what the repres what the people want in in in the town of", "start": 8692.76, "end": 8698.479}, {"text": "Oakville I know you've been elected as elective uh elected politicians and you should be acting on behalf of of", "start": 8698.479, "end": 8705.08}, {"text": "everyone but I don't think and you can you're hearing the comments this evening that the majority of the individuals", "start": 8705.08, "end": 8710.76}, {"text": "that are in the town of Oka want this new bylaw so I I do understand you have to represent your particular situations", "start": 8710.76, "end": 8717.52}, {"text": "and there's some issues in Bronte and I respect that but but to put in a law because of some smaller minority that's", "start": 8717.52, "end": 8724.08}, {"text": "very loud that it's going to cause problems from the rest of us isn't right so my recommendation is status quo or", "start": 8724.08, "end": 8732.16}, {"text": "bring it to the people as a vote I don't know if the town has a mechanism to send out an email have a a vote and let the", "start": 8732.16, "end": 8737.88}, {"text": "people actually tell you what we want as a whole or as a minimum if you don't um", "start": 8737.88, "end": 8744.52}, {"text": "do that and you want to implement this new rule have some sort of caro as was discussed as unique situation because of", "start": 8744.52, "end": 8749.92}, {"text": "our our property next door and and grandfather some older rules to some property owners that will have some", "start": 8749.92, "end": 8755.96}, {"text": "extreme consequences as a result of this new rule thank you thank you Mr", "start": 8755.96, "end": 8762.88}, {"text": "cruy Madam clerk um y the next delegate is uh Kylie", "start": 8763.6, "end": 8773.08}, {"text": "Wilson Miss Wilson welome welcome we look forward to your information thank you very much good evening mayor Burton", "start": 8778.16, "end": 8785}, {"text": "and counselors I'm going to take the conversation in a little bit of a different direction um but definitely", "start": 8785, "end": 8790.68}, {"text": "appreciate all the comments received tonight uh my name is Kylie Wilson I'm here to talk about item 10.3 tonight I'm", "start": 8790.68, "end": 8798.439}, {"text": "representing the businesses of the bront tpia as the executive director", "start": 8798.439, "end": 8803.92}, {"text": "overwhelmingly our business community supports the staff recommendation that bylaw 2024 1886 7 eliminating any common", "start": 8803.92, "end": 8812.359}, {"text": "law right to tow or impound a vehicle from private property without the owner's consent be passed this Council", "start": 8812.359, "end": 8818.439}, {"text": "chamber is obviously very well informed about the epidemic of a predatory Towing in Bronte but on behalf of our business", "start": 8818.439, "end": 8825.96}, {"text": "Community I do want to go on record about the negative impact that it's had on the overall social and economic", "start": 8825.96, "end": 8832.24}, {"text": "health of the district with the hope that on February 28th 2025 we will be", "start": 8832.24, "end": 8837.88}, {"text": "entering a new chapter I want to provide some examples directly from our business owners that demonstrate how predatory", "start": 8837.88, "end": 8844.72}, {"text": "Towing on private Lots has had a ripple effect across our district firstly it is", "start": 8844.72, "end": 8850.359}, {"text": "a daily concern for our businesses and has been so for I believe 12 years signs", "start": 8850.359, "end": 8855.64}, {"text": "are posted on store Windows not welcoming customers but requiring to warn them about Towing and many of our", "start": 8855.64, "end": 8863.16}, {"text": "businesses actually have to hire additional staff just to ask where did you park today uh Towing has impacted", "start": 8863.16, "end": 8870.16}, {"text": "revenue and business growth opportunities when customers that are affected by the predatory Towing on the", "start": 8870.16, "end": 8876.72}, {"text": "private Lots we've noted this evening uh they decide that they're never going to support prony businesses again and not", "start": 8876.72, "end": 8883.359}, {"text": "only this they amplify this message to their friends and family so oftentimes our business owners are giving away gift", "start": 8883.359, "end": 8889.76}, {"text": "cards at their own expense to try and retain those customers Towing has overshadowed bronte's overall reputation", "start": 8889.76, "end": 8897.04}, {"text": "as a welcoming Waterfront retail destination and towing has really manifested as online commentary to", "start": 8897.04, "end": 8904.359}, {"text": "boycott the very businesses that Towing is supposed to be protecting uh finally uh Towing is", "start": 8904.359, "end": 8911.2}, {"text": "detrimental to our business retention and most notably uh it's been in the", "start": 8911.2, "end": 8916.24}, {"text": "past year we've lost two businesses one was 67 years of history in Bronte", "start": 8916.24, "end": 8921.64}, {"text": "because they were unable to deal with the issues and the stress of Towing in the community so I hope these examples", "start": 8921.64, "end": 8928.08}, {"text": "provide a a kind of a demonstration of how Towing from private property has impeded brony's commercial District's", "start": 8928.08, "end": 8935.12}, {"text": "potential and our overall vitality and demonstrated how it's created an unfair burden for our small businesses to deal", "start": 8935.12, "end": 8941.92}, {"text": "with across the district the proposed bylaw I believe is a reasonable solution", "start": 8941.92, "end": 8947.359}, {"text": "that will disrupt this practice and it balances the interest of our small business Community while also protecting", "start": 8947.359, "end": 8953.72}, {"text": "the rights of private property owners we believe the at the Bia that this bylaw", "start": 8953.72, "end": 8958.92}, {"text": "will reestablish Bronte as a community that welcomes visitors puts our Waterfront and our vibrant retail mix", "start": 8958.92, "end": 8966.56}, {"text": "back at the top of people's perceptions so tonight I really want to thank you for listening to my delegation and to", "start": 8966.56, "end": 8972.399}, {"text": "all of the delegations uh for your time and I'm happy to take any questions thank you very much thank you Miss", "start": 8972.399, "end": 8978.92}, {"text": "Wilson um are there questions thank you very much thank you", "start": 8978.92, "end": 8984.84}, {"text": "no questions okay thank you madam clerk the next delegate is John", "start": 8984.84, "end": 8990.68}, {"text": "Paladino Mr Paladino welcome I look forward Council looks forward to your", "start": 8990.68, "end": 8995.88}, {"text": "information thank you very much good evening your worship honorable members of council thank you for the opportunity", "start": 8995.88, "end": 9003.2}, {"text": "to address this matter um my name is John Paladino I'm a lawyer at Paladino", "start": 9003.2, "end": 9009.04}, {"text": "law office I'm here this evening on behalf of two of my clients that oppose", "start": 9009.04, "end": 9014.84}, {"text": "the proposed bylaw first is Centrio Holdings Limited uh centri owns four", "start": 9014.84, "end": 9021.68}, {"text": "properties between 447 and 487 Spears Road as well as 369 and 379 Spears Road", "start": 9021.68, "end": 9031.279}, {"text": "369 and 379 are ten the tenants are Chuck's Roadhouse and A&W I get to be", "start": 9031.279, "end": 9038.8}, {"text": "brief because a lot of the uh comments um have already addressed the issue of", "start": 9038.8, "end": 9044.24}, {"text": "the Moran Road Spears Road problem uh Centrio also owns the", "start": 9044.24, "end": 9050.76}, {"text": "property with tenants Delta Bingo MOS Family Restaurant ID yoga I also act for", "start": 9050.76, "end": 9057.08}, {"text": "Ruby Crest homes Inc that owns 131 to 139 ker Street and 77 John Street and", "start": 9057.08, "end": 9065.24}, {"text": "some of the tenants there are my back shed maro's beastro naren and Oakville", "start": 9065.24, "end": 9070.64}, {"text": "Massage and Wellness Clinic it has a parking lot uh behind that property as", "start": 9070.64, "end": 9076.56}, {"text": "well I submitted uh correspondent to uh Council earlier and I hope that uh", "start": 9076.56, "end": 9084.64}, {"text": "your worship and honorable members have had the opportunity to review it so I'm not going to repeat my comments here I", "start": 9084.64, "end": 9092.08}, {"text": "will just keep my submissions very brief our submission is that the bylaw", "start": 9092.08, "end": 9098.68}, {"text": "will essentially turn private parking areas that are for tenants staff and", "start": 9098.68, "end": 9104.12}, {"text": "customers into fully free parking spaces it will be the perception of the public", "start": 9104.12, "end": 9111.56}, {"text": "that they can park here for 2 or 3 hours without having any recourse and they're", "start": 9111.56, "end": 9117.52}, {"text": "able to do it many of them just stay for a few hours and it will be without", "start": 9117.52, "end": 9123.399}, {"text": "essential recourse we know that the steps for", "start": 9123.399, "end": 9128.56}, {"text": "enforcement have been reviewed but in our submission those are extremely onerous to the property owners and will", "start": 9128.56, "end": 9136.88}, {"text": "take time we've mentioned the Moran Road and Spears Road has very sight specific", "start": 9136.88, "end": 9145.279}, {"text": "problems and issues already my client has problems with the John Street and", "start": 9145.279, "end": 9151.319}, {"text": "kurur street parking lot area as well as indicated we've got lease", "start": 9151.319, "end": 9157.84}, {"text": "agreements in place where the tenants pay for the parking spaces uh they pay", "start": 9157.84, "end": 9164.04}, {"text": "for their uh staff and they pay for their customers the bylaw and the way", "start": 9164.04, "end": 9170.84}, {"text": "that it is ultimately makes unlawful parking unenforceable will put the landlord in", "start": 9170.84, "end": 9179}, {"text": "breach of the leases and the public perception will be I cannot be towed without my consent so", "start": 9179, "end": 9186.52}, {"text": "I'm free to park here land owners and business owners did", "start": 9186.52, "end": 9192.439}, {"text": "not have the resources or the staff to supervise parking", "start": 9192.439, "end": 9198.359}, {"text": "247 see who parks there when they park there where they go and if they're", "start": 9198.359, "end": 9204.439}, {"text": "unlawfully parked overall we submit that the bylaw", "start": 9204.439, "end": 9211.359}, {"text": "is a major infringement on the rights of PRI private property owners and their", "start": 9211.359, "end": 9216.64}, {"text": "tenants who are paying for the parking lots and the use of the parking lots and who also pay for maintenance repairs", "start": 9216.64, "end": 9224.279}, {"text": "snow plowing salting Insurance property taxes all related to the property two", "start": 9224.279, "end": 9231.96}, {"text": "other comments one is the signage that is proposed with the bylaw that has to", "start": 9231.96, "end": 9237.88}, {"text": "be installed is going to cost land owners a lot of money uh with again no", "start": 9237.88, "end": 9243.92}, {"text": "meaningful method of recourse for a number of hours it was previously", "start": 9243.92, "end": 9250}, {"text": "addressed about the insurance issue if someone slips and Falls or uh comes on", "start": 9250, "end": 9256.72}, {"text": "to the property that normally would be unauthorized authorized but now for a", "start": 9256.72, "end": 9261.76}, {"text": "temporary period is authorized um with respect we request", "start": 9261.76, "end": 9267.439}, {"text": "that the bylaw not be uh passed and I'm happy to answer any questions well thank you Mr Paladino I I", "start": 9267.439, "end": 9275.319}, {"text": "have one for you uh were you here and able to hear director Campbell describe", "start": 9275.319, "end": 9282.319}, {"text": "the fact that the offense of illegal parking happens immediately upon", "start": 9282.319, "end": 9288.56}, {"text": "committing the ACT and the the illegal Parker at the very", "start": 9288.56, "end": 9293.84}, {"text": "least gets a $50 ticket for that um wa I", "start": 9293.84, "end": 9299.2}, {"text": "just want to make sure you heard that I was here your worship it is um having", "start": 9299.2, "end": 9304.92}, {"text": "someone like tenants won't have the manpower to view and supervise the parking lot", "start": 9304.92, "end": 9312.52}, {"text": "area they're inside conducting business and so it's a difficult a difficult thing my client doesn't have", "start": 9312.52, "end": 9320.319}, {"text": "um Personnel that would be able to look after that so therefore your submission I guess is", "start": 9320.319, "end": 9328}, {"text": "it's an honorous duty to be put on the very honorous Duty thank you very much I", "start": 9328, "end": 9333.359}, {"text": "appreciate the clarification anyone else thank you sir thank you very much Madame", "start": 9333.359, "end": 9339.279}, {"text": "clerk the next delegation listed is Sophie O Sullivan who listed to appear", "start": 9339.279, "end": 9345.399}, {"text": "virtually but we don't yay", "start": 9345.399, "end": 9351.08}, {"text": "okay Mr Sullivan welcome I find it's better in person", "start": 9352.88, "end": 9358.12}, {"text": "don't you I do I just wasn't sure if I'd get here in time well you did a great job", "start": 9358.12, "end": 9364.52}, {"text": "quite late now so you're fine and and we look forward to your remarks thank you", "start": 9364.52, "end": 9369.8}, {"text": "um I don't want to re visit everything", "start": 9369.8, "end": 9374.88}, {"text": "that um everybody else has gone over I'm here as a property manager in Bronte at 2318 and 2330 Lake Shore Road West um we", "start": 9374.88, "end": 9384.04}, {"text": "do not support the amendment of The bylaw and I just want to make sure that", "start": 9384.04, "end": 9390.16}, {"text": "it's known that we do uh enforce uh we have a toe contractor who removes", "start": 9390.16, "end": 9396.72}, {"text": "unauthorized Vehicles we probably have 20 signs but it was a last resort for us", "start": 9396.72, "end": 9402.24}, {"text": "and we did not actually implement this until a few years ago probably 2021 and that was after trying to uh", "start": 9402.24, "end": 9410.6}, {"text": "manage it also engaging the delegated um and blanket Authority with the town", "start": 9410.6, "end": 9416.52}, {"text": "where we could actually call bylaw officers and have them come out and ticket um there were not a lot of", "start": 9416.52, "end": 9423.24}, {"text": "tickets uh issued and we did have quite an issue getting officers to come when", "start": 9423.24, "end": 9428.8}, {"text": "we needed to have that executed so I just want you to know that um Towing was", "start": 9428.8, "end": 9435.04}, {"text": "not ever something that we wanted to use as a tool to manage our PL Plaza but it", "start": 9435.04, "end": 9440.479}, {"text": "became necessary because what would happen in peak times um when it's warmer", "start": 9440.479, "end": 9445.72}, {"text": "out our lot is full when it's a long weekend uh evenings the majority of the tenants that we have are by appointment", "start": 9445.72, "end": 9454.2}, {"text": "reservation things of the nature where if they can't park as soon as they show up because the lot's full they have", "start": 9454.2, "end": 9461.6}, {"text": "missed um and like I said an an appointment a restaurant reservation Etc", "start": 9461.6, "end": 9466.96}, {"text": "and the um cumbersome nature of having to wait uh to get somebody out to issue", "start": 9466.96, "end": 9473.76}, {"text": "the ticket to then tow doesn't allow the businesses that we have", "start": 9473.76, "end": 9478.84}, {"text": "also um with the right to have the lot for their customers and themselves per", "start": 9478.84, "end": 9485}, {"text": "their lease uh it it becomes a really big problem and so I just want to make", "start": 9485, "end": 9491.399}, {"text": "it clear that I don't um I think that it is overreaching in the bylaw to require the", "start": 9491.399, "end": 9500.56}, {"text": "the land owner the the property uh well the property manager the the property", "start": 9500.56, "end": 9506}, {"text": "owner to have to manage this um it comes at a huge cost um and I don't think it", "start": 9506, "end": 9515.16}, {"text": "uh solves the long-term problem which to us seems to be that there's not enough", "start": 9515.16, "end": 9520.24}, {"text": "Municipal parking lots availability I haven't heard anybody all night say that", "start": 9520.24, "end": 9525.92}, {"text": "they have an issue with parking in Downtown Oakville or Towing in in downtown Oakville where there are a lot", "start": 9525.92, "end": 9531.76}, {"text": "more Municipal options um street parking structures surface parking so I it feels", "start": 9531.76, "end": 9539.319}, {"text": "onerous on the landlord to have to solve a problem that they didn't create um and", "start": 9539.319, "end": 9547.2}, {"text": "I don't know that this is a long-term solution because I think if it were to pass which I I hope does not happen um", "start": 9547.2, "end": 9556.24}, {"text": "we probably have to come up with other strategies whether it's you know implementing", "start": 9556.24, "end": 9562.319}, {"text": "restricted uh barriers to the parking lot or you know paid parking um things", "start": 9562.319, "end": 9567.8}, {"text": "that then also make it onerous on the tenant and their customers and everybody that you know it seems you're trying to", "start": 9567.8, "end": 9574.12}, {"text": "drive to to the area so I I don't think it's a productive um bylaw to amend this", "start": 9574.12, "end": 9583.8}, {"text": "way thank you very much before you leave councilor Oma has a question for you uh yes thank you very much for coming", "start": 9583.8, "end": 9591.16}, {"text": "Sophie do your talents in that Plaza feel the same way you do uh actually they do and I have to tell you that um", "start": 9591.16, "end": 9600.12}, {"text": "uh we have even had people running out thanking the tow truck for showing up on", "start": 9600.12, "end": 9605.64}, {"text": "things like uh you know the all the Summer Long weekends because they didn't", "start": 9605.64, "end": 9610.72}, {"text": "have their customers able to park until the tow truck showed up okay CU I'm I am", "start": 9610.72, "end": 9616.08}, {"text": "aware of one of your tenants who is actually considered even helping to pay for barriers in the parking lot if that gets rid of the towing but maybe we can", "start": 9616.08, "end": 9622.72}, {"text": "uh we can pick that up afterwards so thank you very much for coming thank you worship sure thank", "start": 9622.72, "end": 9628.72}, {"text": "you thank you counselor thank you Mrs Sullivan um Council uh that ends the", "start": 9629.52, "end": 9635.64}, {"text": "registered delegations and I'll restrict it to table and uh let the discussion SL", "start": 9635.64, "end": 9641.359}, {"text": "debate begin for one thing uh at the very least I need a move in seconder for whatever", "start": 9641.359, "end": 9647.76}, {"text": "we're going to do councelor MC PE your worship uh at the appropriate", "start": 9647.76, "end": 9653.24}, {"text": "time which I guess is now I'd like to move the staff recommendation thank you counselor is", "start": 9653.24, "end": 9659.92}, {"text": "there a seconder councelor omera thank you um would", "start": 9659.92, "end": 9665.76}, {"text": "the the Mover and seconder like to speak to their", "start": 9665.76, "end": 9670.681}, {"text": "motion thank you uh thank you worship and uh through you um I I think there's", "start": 9672.68, "end": 9679.6}, {"text": "many ways to manage parking and as we urbanize as a town and a municipality we are facing some some pains as as we go", "start": 9679.6, "end": 9687}, {"text": "along um but we have to have our responsibility is to have guard rails around certain things and towing as we", "start": 9687, "end": 9693.319}, {"text": "know has become a problem we've had hundreds if not thousands of complaints uh many different types of issues uh so", "start": 9693.319, "end": 9700.68}, {"text": "much so that the province has had to take over the regulation of it through the TOA act um in consultation with the", "start": 9700.68, "end": 9707.92}, {"text": "MTO and our MP p and the towing Secretariat they have left us a window of opportunity to further clarify who is", "start": 9707.92, "end": 9715.279}, {"text": "authorized to uh initiate a toe and that's what this bylaw comes down to", "start": 9715.279, "end": 9720.6}, {"text": "there needs to be some checks and balances in place I believe that our bylaw staff or it allows for police as", "start": 9720.6, "end": 9726.359}, {"text": "well should be the ones that have those checks and balances in place uh so that Towing does not become", "start": 9726.359, "end": 9733.479}, {"text": "predatory um I think people don't appreciate when they're spotters and people roaming around and see this as a", "start": 9733.479, "end": 9738.88}, {"text": "business um you know this this should be something that's an extreme measure and a last resort we've provided in this", "start": 9738.88, "end": 9745.88}, {"text": "bylaw for many exceptions if there's a blockage if there's an emergency", "start": 9745.88, "end": 9751.439}, {"text": "situation uh it even mentions if certain special event situations um so I think", "start": 9751.439, "end": 9756.479}, {"text": "it's well thought out um it's something that's been considered by many other", "start": 9756.479, "end": 9761.72}, {"text": "municipalities and in Consulting with the province um there's nowhere else that has had such a intense problem than", "start": 9761.72, "end": 9768.96}, {"text": "uh Oakville with with Towing of a you know often a predatory nature um so for", "start": 9768.96, "end": 9775.12}, {"text": "those reasons I'd like to move this forwards um and thank councelor Mera for", "start": 9775.12, "end": 9780.399}, {"text": "his support as well thank you councelor councelor Mera uh thank you your worship um and", "start": 9780.399, "end": 9787.68}, {"text": "and thank to uh thanks to my uh Council colleague Jonathan who who's really done a deep dive on this um as all of you", "start": 9787.68, "end": 9793.84}, {"text": "most of you around this table know we have been at this for over eight years now we have tried through every attempt", "start": 9793.84, "end": 9801.52}, {"text": "possible to rein in what is the wild west of what tow trucks can do to people", "start": 9801.52, "end": 9807.12}, {"text": "to leave women and children on the street at midnight to charge extra money whatever they want at one point just", "start": 9807.12, "end": 9812.76}, {"text": "demand cash and not take credit cards to to do everything under the sun that that", "start": 9812.76, "end": 9817.84}, {"text": "we have been following the ball on this um we had a good bylaw until the province came in and again remove that", "start": 9817.84, "end": 9823.68}, {"text": "as of January 1st of this year taking us right back to square one we've seen other municip alties move forward with", "start": 9823.68, "end": 9830.24}, {"text": "this we have the cooperation of of the Halton Regional Police um and thank you again chair n for for you facilitating", "start": 9830.24, "end": 9836.96}, {"text": "those discussions they've been great the police understand the significance and the ramifications about this um the the", "start": 9836.96, "end": 9844.8}, {"text": "title in this uh bylaw can often be misleading and and though it says towing", "start": 9844.8, "end": 9850.479}, {"text": "a vehicle without the owner's consent the actual uh point about that is except", "start": 9850.479, "end": 9856.479}, {"text": "for the circumstances explained here you can tow vehicles this is not taking away", "start": 9856.479, "end": 9862.76}, {"text": "any private property owner's ability to tow vehicles it's setting rules about how that happens it's setting", "start": 9862.76, "end": 9868.24}, {"text": "expectations and guidelines so that people know the first thing you do is get a find after that you can get towed", "start": 9868.24, "end": 9874.92}, {"text": "and everybody understands the playing field you don't have seniors or people walking off thinking oh I'm just going", "start": 9874.92, "end": 9880.399}, {"text": "to grab a coffee and not even having the time to run back to their vehicle before it's gone I mean that is not how we", "start": 9880.399, "end": 9888.08}, {"text": "should be acting as the community it's not what the expectations anywhere should be anywhere and I understand", "start": 9888.08, "end": 9894.479}, {"text": "there are problems with certain areas about about about capacity at at at peak times and I think we can tackle those", "start": 9894.479, "end": 9900.84}, {"text": "challenges but writ large across this town the act of predatory Towing where you are actively seeking to take", "start": 9900.84, "end": 9907.319}, {"text": "someone's vehicle rightly or wrongly without any guardrails around it has to stop it has to stop we have the tools", "start": 9907.319, "end": 9914.6}, {"text": "thank you to staff to Selena and to our legal department as well Dennis pein who's put in an eom's work on this to", "start": 9914.6, "end": 9921.68}, {"text": "understand the legalities of it to understand where our legal standing is on this and to make sure the private", "start": 9921.68, "end": 9926.8}, {"text": "property owners do have the right to control their private property so I thank that and and I do thank my Council", "start": 9926.8, "end": 9932.24}, {"text": "colleagues for this long journey on this and again it's it's not just a w one issue we know claudo was here we we", "start": 9932.24, "end": 9938.399}, {"text": "understand the hospital areas in downtown um that this is impacting a lot of areas um I think we're going to", "start": 9938.399, "end": 9943.72}, {"text": "change the culture and I hope we do and if people are are continue to act illegally they'll be dealt with but I", "start": 9943.72, "end": 9949.64}, {"text": "think this is a great way um that we can all level the playing field a bit and and understand our expectations so thank you very much uh your", "start": 9949.64, "end": 9956.64}, {"text": "worship thank you counselor councelor Giddings thank you Mr Mayor uh through", "start": 9956.64, "end": 9962.439}, {"text": "you I I'm not able to support the motion that's before us for a couple of reasons", "start": 9962.439, "end": 9968.279}, {"text": "uh we have contrary to one of the uh our guests this evening uh downtown Oakville", "start": 9968.279, "end": 9975.08}, {"text": "uh has severe parking problems on its own and it was brought to our attention", "start": 9975.08, "end": 9980.68}, {"text": "this afternoon that uh we have a number of people with reserved parking", "start": 9980.68, "end": 9986.439}, {"text": "spaces they go to work in the morning they can't get in their reserved parking space there's no other parking available", "start": 9986.439, "end": 9993.319}, {"text": "and so now they have to wait an hour or so to try to get something done", "start": 9993.319, "end": 9999.68}, {"text": "so that is I just want to add that to the concerns over uh Monahans mortan the", "start": 9999.68, "end": 10006.64}, {"text": "hospital and a handful of other areas um so I can't support that I would welcome", "start": 10006.64, "end": 10012.92}, {"text": "to uh refer it back to staff but uh some ideas for that but I can't support that", "start": 10012.92, "end": 10020.2}, {"text": "thanks thank you councelor councelor Chisum thank you sure we're excuse me your worship uh with respect to it I'm", "start": 10020.2, "end": 10026.52}, {"text": "not supporting the the uh report or the motion also um I think what we've done here these are private land owners and I", "start": 10026.52, "end": 10033.16}, {"text": "think they have every rights uh within their own land it's you know it's it's their property and they have the ability", "start": 10033.16, "end": 10039.72}, {"text": "to to make make sure their businesses are operating efficiently uh with respect to that um I do like to see this", "start": 10039.72, "end": 10046.279}, {"text": "deferred back um because I think there's special circumstances with respect to other parts of the municipality that not", "start": 10046.279, "end": 10051.92}, {"text": "necessarily reflect what's happening in the Brony area um especially with um the the Spears and morn and I think we need", "start": 10051.92, "end": 10059.479}, {"text": "to look at that in in a holistic way uh rather than putting on a universal uh approach to this because I don't believe", "start": 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clarification okay your worship through you to uh", "start": 10164.72, "end": 10172.92}, {"text": "councilor dck no a pilot project per se in terms of passing the bylaw and", "start": 10172.92, "end": 10179.12}, {"text": "applying it only to Bronte would be discriminatory and bylaws can't be", "start": 10179.12, "end": 10186.56}, {"text": "passed in that manner some uh so uh just taking the Bon passing it and", "start": 10186.56, "end": 10192.72}, {"text": "applying it only to Bronte would not be um would not be permitted in terms of", "start": 10192.72, "end": 10199.76}, {"text": "doing it in accordance with the municipal act thank you Mr plin um it", "start": 10199.76, "end": 10205.279}, {"text": "was sort of the uh last opportunity to see if we could come to some meeting of", "start": 10205.279, "end": 10210.68}, {"text": "the minds but uh as I say I cannot support the bylaw in its current state", "start": 10210.68, "end": 10217.279}, {"text": "but I do so much sympathize with our counselors in word one who are dealing", "start": 10217.279, "end": 10223.279}, {"text": "with a huge predatory issue um", "start": 10223.279, "end": 10229.96}, {"text": "sorry thank you counselor councelor Adams thank you very much I have I think", "start": 10231.6, "end": 10237.56}, {"text": "three questions for our staff that uh might help me in my decision making and uh first of all do you have any", "start": 10237.56, "end": 10244.319}, {"text": "information about how many toes are actually occurring each day or or in know any period of time and where", "start": 10244.319, "end": 10250.64}, {"text": "they're happening thank you through your worship we're not able to give you a definite", "start": 10250.64, "end": 10256.6}, {"text": "answer on that because they're not tracked um by Town staff uh estimating", "start": 10256.6, "end": 10263.08}, {"text": "some properties are Towing up to five per day some are uh more seasonal um I", "start": 10263.08, "end": 10269.52}, {"text": 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rad as an example where there 's a significant influx of of vehicles at a", "start": 10395.6, "end": 10402.64}, {"text": "specific time the benefit of of this process is really that instead of Towing", "start": 10402.64, "end": 10408.52}, {"text": "one two or three vehicles within that hour that they have to do that you can", "start": 10408.52, "end": 10413.68}, {"text": "ticket as many as you want you still can tow if they're there beyond the hour", "start": 10413.68, "end": 10419.399}, {"text": "however many you're you're able to do but it would allow for that opportunity for education and um that penalty would", "start": 10419.399, "end": 10428.12}, {"text": "be provided so there's a consequence to the illegal parking so they can hand out the $50", "start": 10428.12, "end": 10434.2}, {"text": "ticket right away that's correct thank you um and uh", "start": 10434.2, "end": 10440.08}, {"text": "was there discussion about whether the hour is in appropriate length was half an hour 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boot on their car legally that's uh do you", "start": 10659.8, "end": 10665.68}, {"text": "think we could be in trouble for that is legal have an opinion on that I suspect it would be very difficult for them to", "start": 10665.68, "end": 10671.52}, {"text": "drive away if that were the case I I would agree so I I I wonder if if that's an option we could make everybody happy", "start": 10671.52, "end": 10678.279}, {"text": "um but but because there's differences in each location so wonder whether we should consider that I thank you", "start": 10678.279, "end": 10684.76}, {"text": "counselor um part of our procedure is when the", "start": 10684.76, "end": 10690.12}, {"text": "main motion is on the floor uh motions to defer and refer and amend are in", "start": 10690.12, "end": 10696.2}, {"text": "order and so if if a counselor if Council wants to refer the matter back", "start": 10696.2, "end": 10702.279}, {"text": "to staff to research the boot uh alternative or any other matter um 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"for some time it has been used across the town for a little while and I would look to to Margaret Boswell our manager", "start": 10756.8, "end": 10763.96}, {"text": "of enforcement Services she might be able to to give us a little bit of history on on how long that fee has been", "start": 10763.96, "end": 10770.2}, {"text": "at that uh at that", "start": 10770.2, "end": 10773.601}, {"text": "level through you Mr Mayor um the penalty for parking on private property", "start": 10775.359, "end": 10781.52}, {"text": "with without authorization pardon me was just increased increased under the 2023", "start": 10781.52, "end": 10788.08}, {"text": "rates and fees budget it previously had been at the at the rate of $40 so it was", "start": 10788.08, "end": 10794.399}, {"text": "increased to $50 just recently prior to that the increase um had not been uh an", "start": 10794.399, "end": 10801.64}, {"text": "increase had not been put in place for several years and do we know how many of those tickets on private property are", "start": 10801.64, "end": 10809.479}, {"text": "issued yes so as of 2024 to date approximately 6,200 tickets have been", "start": 10809.479, "end": 10817.04}, {"text": "issued by private property appointed Emily O's and approximately 1,500 have", "start": 10817.04, "end": 10822.96}, {"text": "been issued by town of Oakville mobile compliance officers so 6,200 tickets at the for at", "start": 10822.96, "end": 10831.279}, {"text": "the $50 Mark have been issued um in another", "start": 10831.279, "end": 10837.04}, {"text": "1500 correct doesn't seem like it's much of a deterrent", "start": 10837.04, "end": 10842.88}, {"text": "um because I think that one of I appreciated all the delegations and one", "start": 10842.88, "end": 10848.319}, {"text": "of the parts I'm wrestling with is we're trying to change people's behavior we're", "start": 10848.319, "end": 10854.279}, {"text": "trying to help them realize that there's a consequence for doing what they're 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proposed future rate that would", "start": 10905.12, "end": 10910.92}, {"text": "be increased to provide more of a deterrent for people who were parking on private property with authoriz without", "start": 10910.92, "end": 10917.479}, {"text": "authorization okay and and just for clarity that $300 administrative fee is", "start": 10917.479, "end": 10923.08}, {"text": "for a property owner who illegally toes through your Mr Mayor that is", "start": 10923.08, "end": 10929.319}, {"text": "correct okay um and in terms of I I know my Council colleagues have probably", "start": 10929.319, "end": 10935.92}, {"text": "looked at every angle to try and figure this out is there a another", "start": 10935.92, "end": 10943.72}, {"text": "municipality that approaches it differently than this that has met with", "start": 10943.72, "end": 10951.08}, {"text": "success success being you know we we don't have people uh feeling like", "start": 10952.399, "end": 10959.6}, {"text": "Towing's just a you know just do it every day and don't worry about everybody", "start": 10959.6, "end": 10966}, {"text": "else thank you for that three your worship there is a a number of municipalities that that do provide", "start": 10966, "end": 10973.279}, {"text": "assistance or or uh that authority to toe and uh Whitby had been mentioned as", "start": 10973.279, "end": 10979.76}, {"text": "as one of them and they were one of the municipalities we contacted early on uh I will say that the situation Oakville", "start": 10979.76, "end": 10986.8}, {"text": "does differ from anyone we have spoken to uh just because of the the number of", "start": 10986.8, "end": 10993.52}, {"text": "private property toes that are occurring within this municipality when speaking to wh staff they had mentioned that they", "start": 10993.52, "end": 10999.439}, {"text": "they actually only performed a handful maybe up to 10 per year so the the situation is is definitely different so", "start": 10999.439, "end": 11006.399}, {"text": "my last question of those 6200 do you know how many of them are are repeat", "start": 11006.399, "end": 11012.96}, {"text": "offenders through your worship I'm I'm Sor I wouldn't be able to tell you that off the top of my head today but we", "start": 11012.96, "end": 11018.92}, {"text": "probably could do run a report to find out how many within one year to the same license plate not necessarily the same", "start": 11018.92, "end": 11026.12}, {"text": "individual who parked but we could run it to the same license plate okay thanks very", "start": 11026.12, "end": 11031.92}, {"text": "much thank you counselor councelor NL thank you wiship uh I'm inclined to support this resolution with the", "start": 11031.92, "end": 11038.359}, {"text": "amendment that councelor Adams is putting forward I just want to from my perspective I've been managing", "start": 11038.359, "end": 11043.56}, {"text": "properties my entire life and sometimes large parking lots and I've had problems from time to time I can recount the only", "start": 11043.56, "end": 11049.6}, {"text": "time I've ever called a tow truck um a property where there was a proper", "start": 11049.6, "end": 11056.399}, {"text": "signage and a contract was to remove a a sailboat that was dumped on our property", "start": 11056.399, "end": 11061.92}, {"text": "um that was essentially scuttled on our property so that's the only time I've ever and it was on the trailer so it's very convenient to take away that's the", "start": 11061.92, "end": 11067.68}, {"text": "only time I've ever done it I find that uh I but but also as a somebody that's been managing properties I also wouldn't", "start": 11067.68, "end": 11073.2}, {"text": "want my rights taken away as well but I think that Council rira really clarified one of the most important points here is", "start": 11073.2, "end": 11079.16}, {"text": "that it's not really it's it's not so much that the rights of property owners are being really restricted here they're", "start": 11079.16, "end": 11084.8}, {"text": "being tempered um and they're being tempered with with I think solid uh", "start": 11084.8, "end": 11089.84}, {"text": "legislation to establish when it can happen and who can make that decision there's not many things that we have in", "start": 11089.84, "end": 11095.76}, {"text": "our bylaws or even for that matter in federal or um uh provincial jurist", "start": 11095.76, "end": 11101.16}, {"text": "Prudence that allows an individual a non-official individual to make a decision about enforcing a law um so I'm", "start": 11101.16, "end": 11109.56}, {"text": "I've always been uncomfortable with the notion of having cars uh removed on a predatory basis and I remain that way", "start": 11109.56, "end": 11115.479}, {"text": "today but I do think that this is a good balance between the rights of property owners and an appropriate uh measure to", "start": 11115.479, "end": 11122.479}, {"text": "ensure that uh um uh individuals that um may actually be stuck in a", "start": 11122.479, "end": 11129.16}, {"text": "situation we had Fairly recently in my ward where I had somebody complain to me that in a particular bar um they felt", "start": 11129.16, "end": 11136.12}, {"text": "uncomfortable driving home and they called an Uber and they went home and they came back or they sent I think if", "start": 11136.12, "end": 11141.6}, {"text": "they send a spouse back to pick up the car and it would have been gone that person didn't walk off the property that person was taken by an Uber that Not", "start": 11141.6, "end": 11147.84}, {"text": "only was the right thing to do from an enforcement perspective and from a legal perspective but it was also really", "start": 11147.84, "end": 11153.439}, {"text": "protected the liability of the bar operator I'm not going to indicate what bar it was but I will indicate this is this is uh during a recent holiday", "start": 11153.439, "end": 11160.399}, {"text": "celebration um that uh uh that this occurred and uh um I was not able to", "start": 11160.399, "end": 11165.84}, {"text": "help this constituent get any kind of restitution either free dinner or otherwise so I'll be supporting the", "start": 11165.84, "end": 11171.16}, {"text": "motion with the uh and the amendment that councelor Adams is putting forward uh thank you councelor n anyone", "start": 11171.16, "end": 11177.359}, {"text": "else uh councilor Adams until you raise your", "start": 11177.359, "end": 11184.72}, {"text": "hand and say you're moving an amendment you haven't done", "start": 11184.72, "end": 11188.88}, {"text": "it your Amendment are you yes I'm moving it um well you should tell people what it is yes well it was just circulated", "start": 11191.08, "end": 11198.76}, {"text": "and I'll read it for everybody so let's move by my yourself and seconded by councelor Nanda and it's one that the", "start": 11198.76, "end": 11204.04}, {"text": "waiting period be reduced to 30 minutes in section 52 e and two that staff", "start": 11204.04, "end": 11210.16}, {"text": "provide a review of the effective effectiveness of the bylaw in one year so one thing I'm a little bit concerned", "start": 11210.16, "end": 11216}, {"text": "about is whether we're getting it quite right with respect to the process that's going to be involved and so I'd like to hear back that in fact that process is", "start": 11216, "end": 11224}, {"text": "working thank you councelor uh any discussion or shall I put the vote on", "start": 11224, "end": 11229.319}, {"text": "the amendment councelor Giddings thank you Mr M uh with the", "start": 11229.319, "end": 11235}, {"text": "mover's approval I'd like to include something to the effect for", "start": 11235, "end": 11241.279}, {"text": "U prop Renters of spaces in downtown wherever that whether that be the uh Bia", "start": 11241.279, "end": 11249}, {"text": "in Bronte or K Street or anywhere else where they have a a signed reserved", "start": 11249, "end": 11254.72}, {"text": "parking spot and they have no access to it um so if that could be included in", "start": 11254.72, "end": 11261.04}, {"text": "terms of whether that could be an immediate tow when it's private property", "start": 11261.04, "end": 11267.6}, {"text": "at least to them well counselor um my advice is uh that sounds like a proper", "start": 11267.6, "end": 11274.72}, {"text": "Amendment self you know a freestanding a singular Amendment uh which you could", "start": 11274.72, "end": 11280.08}, {"text": "add to the main Amendment after we deal with uh these two things um unless the", "start": 11280.08, "end": 11288.479}, {"text": "Mover wants to enlarge his Amendment but it's it's sort of outside the scope of what he wanted to do um uh counselor", "start": 11288.479, "end": 11299.439}, {"text": "I think it would be really helpful to have that written down so that we actually know what the amendment is and and yes I think it it would be easy to", "start": 11299.8, "end": 11306.239}, {"text": "um create such an amendment and I think we as a council could then decide on that Amendment separately so um I I not", "start": 11306.239, "end": 11313.92}, {"text": "sure I have any particular issue with it um but just from a process perspective", "start": 11313.92, "end": 11318.96}, {"text": "we could we could move and pass this amendment and then do a second amendment", "start": 11318.96, "end": 11324.68}, {"text": "so councelor is that okay okay Council", "start": 11324.68, "end": 11331.399}, {"text": "Chisum just adding to recorded votes on these please any amendments too yes", "start": 11331.399, "end": 11336.56}, {"text": "please thank you counselor um all right well then", "start": 11336.56, "end": 11342.16}, {"text": "uh I uh I welcome the proposed amendment because if passed I I guess it would", "start": 11342.16, "end": 11350.2}, {"text": "reduce um the amount of what might later look like predatory parking where people", "start": 11350.2, "end": 11357.399}, {"text": "get to take somebody else's parking property and uh convert it to their own", "start": 11357.399, "end": 11362.52}, {"text": "use uh and uh so I'll I'll ask the clerk to uh call the role and uh you'll answer", "start": 11362.52, "end": 11369.84}, {"text": "yes to support the amendment and no to oppose", "start": 11369.84, "end": 11374.279}, {"text": "it mayor Burton uh just to be clear are we voting on uh the motion uh p uh put", "start": 11375.92, "end": 11383.12}, {"text": "forward by councelor Adams and Nanda and seconded by Nanda the the amendment", "start": 11383.12, "end": 11389.279}, {"text": "proposed by Adams and Nanda is the only matter that's in order now because once", "start": 11389.279, "end": 11395.72}, {"text": "an amendment is moved that becomes the only topic of of the meeting wasn't sure", "start": 11395.72, "end": 11401.439}, {"text": "okay okay councelor Adams yes councelor Chisum", "start": 11401.439, "end": 11408.04}, {"text": "no councelor dck no councelor", "start": 11408.04, "end": 11413.64}, {"text": "Elgar no councelor Giddings", "start": 11413.64, "end": 11419.319}, {"text": "no councelor Grant yes councelor H", "start": 11420.12, "end": 11427.88}, {"text": "Theo yes councelor n yes councelor", "start": 11427.88, "end": 11434.84}, {"text": "L yes councelor Longo yes councelor MCN yes councelor", "start": 11434.84, "end": 11443.64}, {"text": "Nanda yes councelor rera yes councelor Shay yes mayor Burton", "start": 11443.64, "end": 11453.92}, {"text": "yes and the motion passes thank you thank you councelor Giddings did you want to propose an", "start": 11453.92, "end": 11460.92}, {"text": "amendment uh yes I've just sent it out uh to members of council and the clerk that staff develop a process that will", "start": 11460.92, "end": 11467.479}, {"text": "allow signed reserved parking spaces to have immediate Towing SL removal", "start": 11467.479, "end": 11476.279}, {"text": "do staff have any comment or guidance you're your", "start": 11479.2, "end": 11484.761}, {"text": "worship through your worship uh we can include that as an exception to the bylaw in section five uh sub two I", "start": 11490.399, "end": 11498.359}, {"text": "believe it was e uh with the other exemptions where we include uh a", "start": 11498.359, "end": 11505.72}, {"text": "reserved um parking space within within private property so", "start": 11505.72, "end": 11510.92}, {"text": "Council Giddings can we uh take it that your wording would be to add the exemption you specified to that section", "start": 11510.92, "end": 11517.399}, {"text": "of the bylaw yes Mr Mayor thank you and do you have a seconder councelor eler is the seconder", "start": 11517.399, "end": 11524.64}, {"text": "councelor dck would you like to speak or yes please your turn just a quick", "start": 11524.64, "end": 11531.359}, {"text": "question uh through you Mr chair um for those Property Owners private prop", "start": 11531.359, "end": 11537.2}, {"text": "property owners who would not be satisfied with what I think is going to", "start": 11537.2, "end": 11542.64}, {"text": "be approved tonight could they provide something if this amendment passes to", "start": 11542.64, "end": 11549.239}, {"text": "say it's reserved for and then name um", "start": 11549.239, "end": 11554.6}, {"text": "reserved for clients of such and such in which case they could tow it", "start": 11554.6, "end": 11561.319}, {"text": "immediately uh counselor thank you for your question uh director Campbell is Consulting with uh solicitor", "start": 11564.279, "end": 11572.8}, {"text": "pearlin okay through your worship uh if we could take that particular one back", "start": 11589.68, "end": 11596.08}, {"text": "and and report back to council uh the concern is that um if we if we start doing an amendment like that on the Fly", "start": 11596.08, "end": 11603.359}, {"text": "uh I'm worried that we're going to um impact the overall Integrity of the", "start": 11603.359, "end": 11609.84}, {"text": "bylaw thank you director um councelor dck that's your", "start": 11609.84, "end": 11615.359}, {"text": "answer um the next questioner is councelor HL thel thank you through you", "start": 11615.359, "end": 11620.76}, {"text": "mayor Burton um so in terms of that uh councelor Giddings uh suggest question", "start": 11620.76, "end": 11628.16}, {"text": "um I would ask that you consider whether or not it says signed reserved and paid", "start": 11628.16, "end": 11634.16}, {"text": "um because uh I think creating this wiggle room is um I I I think councelor", "start": 11634.16, "end": 11641.68}, {"text": "Giddings has the appropriate approach that if I have a paid permit parking", "start": 11641.68, "end": 11646.84}, {"text": "space um I should be able to immediately uh address that issue but it should be", "start": 11646.84, "end": 11652.8}, {"text": "uh a paid signed permit parking space not just these are for my clients so", "start": 11652.8, 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those who want to throw the put the clamp on and who could actually do it and what the cost", "start": 11711.399, "end": 11717.68}, {"text": "would be and it may work better for everyone no matter where you live in Oakville I'm sure stf could report on", "start": 11717.68, "end": 11724.199}, {"text": "that you you are not suggesting though to refer the entire uh thing back to", "start": 11724.199, "end": 11730.199}, {"text": "staff to consider not not at all but it' be good to get a report back on that because I understand it is effective the", "start": 11730.199, "end": 11736.84}, {"text": "directors indicated she'll do that I thank you through your re worship actually I was hoping I could add a", "start": 11736.84, "end": 11742.439}, {"text": "comment to that well please do thank you just for consideration um uh when", "start": 11742.439, "end": 11747.76}, {"text": "considering the the prospect of of Staff utilizing a boot program uh I would note", "start": 11747.76, "end": 11754.359}, {"text": "that um that would mean the vehicle would stay in place so that could actually mean an extended period of time", "start": 11754.359, "end": 11761.76}, {"text": "that the vehicle would be occupying a space on these private properties so that may be contrary to to some of the", "start": 11761.76, "end": 11767.88}, {"text": "intent of of the desire of the the property owners here today well that would be interesting if", "start": 11767.88, "end": 11773.6}, {"text": "you come back with that because may maybe it would maybe it would maybe it wouldn't if they get if they're stuck there for a few hours getting the boot", "start": 11773.6, "end": 11779.76}, {"text": "on locked they may not rush back right away there thank you thank you counselor counselor", "start": 11779.76, "end": 11786.6}, {"text": "Oma uh thank you worship and I was just going to raise that same point what many of the private property owners here", "start": 11786.6, "end": 11792.08}, {"text": "tonight said is they want that vehicle off their property immediately they don't want to have it booted up and take", "start": 11792.08, "end": 11797.199}, {"text": "a second longer than it needs to be removed from their property so that's out actually a bit counterintuitive to", "start": 11797.199, "end": 11803.399}, {"text": "what we heard tonight from the delegates about trying to remove those vehicles um but what I I think what I'm with with", "start": 11803.399, "end": 11809.68}, {"text": "councilor Adam's Amendment um with the 30 minutes by the time somebody goes and", "start": 11809.68, "end": 11815.439}, {"text": "calls a tow truck and dispatches it's almost the same thing it's almost the exact same thing about a a a a a private", "start": 11815.439, "end": 11823.68}, {"text": "Parking Spot somewhere it would take almost the exact same amount of time to just go and get a hold of a tow truck", "start": 11823.68, "end": 11829.52}, {"text": "company whoever's around and have them come so I don't know if I think we might be be sort of doing the same thing in", "start": 11829.52, "end": 11836.399}, {"text": "two different ways here I think councelor Adam's Amendment expedites the process of getting a a tow truck to any", "start": 11836.399, "end": 11843.92}, {"text": "spot that has gone through the the the process where an adult in the room says yeah this car needs to be towen it's", "start": 11843.92, "end": 11849.04}, {"text": "been a half an hour so I think we're accomplishing the same goal perhaps councelor getting is what you're you're hoping to achieve um and and so I'm just", "start": 11849.04, "end": 11857.12}, {"text": "not sure if we need that I think we've got it I think you know it would take anybody about half an hour to get on the", "start": 11857.12, "end": 11863.16}, {"text": "phone get through the things press the numbers call somebody give an address have them reach somebody get dispatched and be there so I think I think it's", "start": 11863.16, "end": 11869.8}, {"text": "almost the same effect I so um I mean happy to have it go back and have it to come back again but I just don't think", "start": 11869.8, "end": 11876.08}, {"text": "we're going to get much further along than what councelor Adams and councelor Nanda have already added to the conversation here in my humble", "start": 11876.08, "end": 11882.92}, {"text": "opinion councelor gings I appreciate that councelor Meritt I think there is a", "start": 11882.92, "end": 11888.16}, {"text": "difference though when somebody has an office or there's extremely limited parking and you are paying your renting", "start": 11888.16, "end": 11896.76}, {"text": "prer a uh preferred or a private parking space adjacent to your home or to your", "start": 11896.76, "end": 11903.72}, {"text": "business because of the lack of parking so councilor Giddings um I see", "start": 11903.72, "end": 11910.239}, {"text": "no more hands for debate on your Amendment and I'm happy to have the clerk uh call the role if everybody's", "start": 11910.239, "end": 11916.72}, {"text": "good with that counselor Adams I'm sorry was there a change to what was circulated I'm just a little bit unsure", "start": 11916.72, "end": 11923.359}, {"text": "about what we're actually voting on we're adding his ex extion to the list of exemptions in the ACT instead of the", "start": 11923.359, "end": 11930.88}, {"text": "other way he phrased it in what he circulated to you CU I think the last thing I understood we're voting on was", "start": 11930.88, "end": 11936.56}, {"text": "that staff develop a process that will allow signed SL Reserve parking spaces to have immediate Towing SL removal so", "start": 11936.56, "end": 11943.88}, {"text": "now it'll be now it'll be that signed Etc will be added to the list of", "start": 11943.88, "end": 11949.319}, {"text": "exemptions because the director said that's the expeditious way to accomplish what he wanted and and my understanding", "start": 11949.319, "end": 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11997.68, "end": 12002.8}, {"text": "list um and uh uh and he uh he", "start": 12002.8, "end": 12010.8}, {"text": "accepted director he s he accepted your suggestion that that his precise term", "start": 12010.8, "end": 12016.72}, {"text": "could be added to the list of exemptions are you maintaining that possibility or", "start": 12016.72, "end": 12022.88}, {"text": "yes all right does that answer you could we kindly have it in writing so that we all understand what we're writing uh", "start": 12022.88, "end": 12029.319}, {"text": "voting on precisely I'm I'm just want to make sure that some of us here on this side of the table are a little confused", "start": 12029.319, "end": 12035.399}, {"text": "and we would really like it in writing please councelor Giddings uh would you like can you rise to this", "start": 12035.399, "end": 12042.76}, {"text": "challenge it'll be there momentarily thank you councelor Grant in the meantime sorry I just does it have to be", "start": 12043.479, "end": 12050.68}, {"text": "paid can it just be permitted so say employees coming in for work would park", "start": 12050.68, "end": 12056.12}, {"text": "get a permit put it in their car and that way if they were to leave later and", "start": 12056.12, "end": 12061.76}, {"text": "come back they'd still have that permit and be able to take this mod back three", "start": 12061.76, "end": 12067.08}, {"text": "worship I I would say we would need to be specific here because it does open it up and and perhaps if there's debate", "start": 12067.08, "end": 12074.439}, {"text": "within Council staff can come back with it with some precise wording", "start": 12074.439, "end": 12079.84}, {"text": "yeah the Mover and seconder are happy with the precis the precise", "start": 12079.84, "end": 12088.04}, {"text": "approach your your opportunity procedurally is to uh vote against it or", "start": 12089.319, "end": 12095.8}, {"text": "or move to defer it counselor Amira okay so if the Mover and the", "start": 12095.8, "end": 12101.68}, {"text": "seconder want to have precise language unfortunately I can't support that precise language because how do you prove it anybody can just go and paid", "start": 12101.68, "end": 12110.04}, {"text": "permitted parking here all up and down there and how are you going to prove that that show receipts for paid Park", "start": 12110.04, "end": 12116.199}, {"text": "like we we need staff to take this one item and go away and figure the language and bring it back if we want to add the", "start": 12116.199, "end": 12121.479}, {"text": "precise language this is a loophole and and this is you know I could see a hundred of these signs going up in a", "start": 12121.479, "end": 12126.88}, {"text": "parking lot and how do you prove that it has been paid and permitted and and I", "start": 12126.88, "end": 12132.12}, {"text": "mean we're we're going down a bit of a rabbit's hole without staff have asked for some time to figure out the language", "start": 12132.12, "end": 12137.64}, {"text": "here and I would be nervous that we're not giving it to", "start": 12137.64, "end": 12142.398}, {"text": "them councelor", "start": 12142.8, "end": 12146.16}, {"text": "Giddings councelor DK in the meantime um I just want some", "start": 12148.96, "end": 12155.359}, {"text": "clarification as well is Council Romera wanting to refer this back to sta this", "start": 12155.359, "end": 12161.16}, {"text": "amendment not the motion the amendment he may be uh", "start": 12161.16, "end": 12167.12}, {"text": "I'd be pleased to offer a referral back to staff okay do you want to name the", "start": 12167.12, "end": 12175.319}, {"text": "purpose for further investigation and uh comment regarding the", "start": 12175.319, "end": 12181.96}, {"text": "viability of uh designating special paid parking or reserved", "start": 12181.96, "end": 12188.64}, {"text": "parking all right is there a seconder for councelor D councelor Oma is the seconder uh Madam is there or shall I uh", "start": 12188.64, "end": 12197.68}, {"text": "have the clerk call the role the clerk can call the", "start": 12197.68, "end": 12203.359}, {"text": "role to vote to refer councelor Giddings Amendment say yes to uh to vote against", "start": 12203.399, "end": 12211.88}, {"text": "referring it say", "start": 12211.88, "end": 12215.438}, {"text": "no okay councel Adams yes councelor", "start": 12219, "end": 12224.56}, {"text": "Chisum nope councelor dck", "start": 12224.56, "end": 12229.88}, {"text": "yes councelor Elgar yes councelor Giddings", "start": 12229.88, "end": 12237.16}, {"text": "yes councelor Grant yes councelor hasso yes councelor", "start": 12237.16, "end": 12245.239}, {"text": "n yes councelor Lina yes councelor Longo yes councelor", "start": 12245.239, "end": 12252.16}, {"text": "MCN yes councelor Nanda yes councelor Rome", "start": 12252.16, "end": 12257.64}, {"text": "yes councelor Shay yes and mayor Burton yes all right that motion to refer", "start": 12257.64, "end": 12266}, {"text": "carries and uh are there other amendments or can can we vote on the main motion just asking for a", "start": 12266, "end": 12275.319}, {"text": "friend I uh I'll ask the clerk to call the", "start": 12282.56, "end": 12290}, {"text": "role calling the role on the main motion mayor Burton yes councelor Adams yes", "start": 12290.96, "end": 12299.52}, {"text": "councelor Chisum no councelor dck", "start": 12299.52, "end": 12304.76}, {"text": "no councelor Elgar yes councelor Giddings no", "start": 12304.76, "end": 12312.68}, {"text": "councelor Grant yes councelor H the", "start": 12312.68, "end": 12318.239}, {"text": "yes councelor n yes councelor L CH yes councelor Longo yes councelor MCN", "start": 12318.239, "end": 12327.52}, {"text": "yes councelor Nanda yes councelor omera yes councelor Shay yes and the", "start": 12327.52, "end": 12335.6}, {"text": "motion carries thank you madam clerk thank you Council uh could we now turn", "start": 12335.6, 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councelor L China I believe it's been circulated to you uh I myself had a", "start": 12396.08, "end": 12401.68}, {"text": "copy a second ago um does everybody have a copy coffee", "start": 12401.68, "end": 12407.319}, {"text": "here it is I even have mine with that I'll read", "start": 12407.319, "end": 12413.84}, {"text": "it um number one that staff be directed to", "start": 12413.84, "end": 12419.64}, {"text": "engage in Virtual public consultation and engage experts as may be necessary", "start": 12419.64, "end": 12425.56}, {"text": "on the development of a bylaw to regulate certain forms of protests near vulnerable social", "start": 12425.56, "end": 12430.96}, {"text": "infrastructure recognizing that nothing in the bylaw should prevent peaceful Pro", "start": 12430.96, "end": 12436.199}, {"text": "protests or demonstrations and report back to council with a draft bylaw in", "start": 12436.199, "end": 12441.479}, {"text": "the first quarter of 2025 including the following a clear 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to know what they're going to to speak about sure give me a second I wasn't ready for", "start": 12493.68, "end": 12499}, {"text": "that two seconds here I'm going to read from a prepared text just because of the I want to make sure I cover everything", "start": 12499, "end": 12504.92}, {"text": "off", "start": 12504.92, "end": 12507.199}, {"text": "here okay well first of all thank you uh your worship for um calling me to speak", "start": 12515.319, "end": 12520.52}, {"text": "on this as the Mover and uh uh and thank you to uh legal staff for uh drafting", "start": 12520.52, "end": 12526.56}, {"text": "this bylaw uh in such a way that uh uh we can ensure that the work they haven't", "start": 12526.56, "end": 12532.279}, {"text": "drafted a bylaw sorry I meant drafted the motion the staff helped us draft this motion today um to make sure that", "start": 12532.279, "end": 12540.199}, {"text": "I'm I'm stalling for time because I'm still looking for my comments here um that uh they've they've drafted this", "start": 12540.199, "end": 12545.96}, {"text": "motion um to best ensure uh success um in a court uh challenge", "start": 12545.96, "end": 12553.72}, {"text": "should that come but also to ensure that we are in fact uh looking out for and protecting uh Charter rights so uh here", "start": 12553.72, "end": 12561.72}, {"text": "are my comments So speaking today to ask for Council support for a motion that councelor chin and myself have asked to", "start": 12561.72, "end": 12568.52}, {"text": "uh uh proceed with the drafting of a bylaw to regulate certain forms of protest near vulnerable social infrastructure notwithstanding the", "start": 12568.52, "end": 12574.72}, {"text": "concerns and recommendations of the staff report at the heart of this motion", "start": 12574.72, "end": 12580.92}, {"text": "uh we are seeking to carefully balance two fundamental rights that are sometimes intentional", "start": 12580.92, "end": 12587.16}, {"text": "the right to a peaceful protest which of course is protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and we've", "start": 12587.16, "end": 12592.68}, {"text": "seen those at council chambers we've seen them across uh the municipality for decades and the right of individuals to", "start": 12592.68, "end": 12599.16}, {"text": "access Community spaces safely and without the fear of harassment or intimidation peaceful protest is an", "start": 12599.16, "end": 12604.96}, {"text": "essential part of democracy giving people a voice to express dissent and advocate for change at the same time", "start": 12604.96, "end": 12610.88}, {"text": "residents have an equally important right to attend schools to worship to", "start": 12610.88, "end": 12616.04}, {"text": "access child care or other community services free from disruption intimidation or harm this bylaw very", "start": 12616.04, "end": 12622.08}, {"text": "important this bylaw does not aim to restrict lawful expression but to ensure that the exercise of one right one's", "start": 12622.08, "end": 12628.439}, {"text": "rights does not infringe upon another which is a key concept of that particular right in the Charter One", "start": 12628.439, "end": 12634.84}, {"text": "can't overrule the other this is not about silencing voices but about safeguarding safety dignity and access", "start": 12634.84, "end": 12641.6}, {"text": "for all now before I go further I want to take a moment to thank the legal staff and the enforcement staff for the hard work researching the sensitive and", "start": 12641.6, "end": 12648.08}, {"text": "complex issue I know that they did a lot of work on it and they depending on the outcome of this resolution I they may", "start": 12648.08, "end": 12653.6}, {"text": "have more work to do yet um their thought thorough and cautious approach reflects diligence and care that they", "start": 12653.6, "end": 12658.88}, {"text": "bring to the work every day ensuring that we are well informed about the legal implications and challenges of moving forward that said as a council we", "start": 12658.88, "end": 12666.8}, {"text": "are sometimes called upon to take bold steps even when there is uncertainty the staff have given us valuable advice but", "start": 12666.8, "end": 12673.16}, {"text": "it is now our responsibility to decide how to lead the community forward now this is not the first time that Oakville", "start": 12673.16, "end": 12678.8}, {"text": "has been ahead of the curve over the last two decades we have been a leader on many issues at other municipalities", "start": 12678.8, "end": 12684.199}, {"text": "and even higher levels of government later adopted councelor Elgar will remember when we bucked the trend and", "start": 12684.199, "end": 12689.72}, {"text": "created a gold standard smoking policy that it was a tough fight to get through but we managed to get that through and", "start": 12689.72, "end": 12695.239}, {"text": "it came before the long before the smokefree Ontario act became law and we like I think at the time we were kind of", "start": 12695.239, "end": 12701}, {"text": "bragging that we inspired that we took decisive action to ban children from using Tanny beds to protect public", "start": 12701, "end": 12706.84}, {"text": "health of our young people we led the way by Banning the commercial use of synthetic pesticides a move that the", "start": 12706.84, "end": 12712.199}, {"text": "province eventually followed with similar legislation Oakville has always been willing to do the right thing even when it is required to be bold and", "start": 12712.199, "end": 12719.319}, {"text": "Visionary today we have another opportunity to lead alongside municipalities like vaugh Bramton Miss Saga and Ottawa who are grappling with", "start": 12719.319, "end": 12725.8}, {"text": "this very issue today I want to clarify because I've had this come back a few times to me asking me what I what's", "start": 12725.8, "end": 12732}, {"text": "meant by it I want to clarify the term nuisance process Pro as I read it and how it differs from", "start": 12732, "end": 12739}, {"text": "peaceful Charter protected assembly peaceful protests are those that allow individuals to express their views and", "start": 12739, "end": 12744.88}, {"text": "exercise their Democratic rights without infringing on others these demonstrations are fully protected under", "start": 12744.88, "end": 12750.04}, {"text": "the charter must remain so however nuisance process protests are different", "start": 12750.04, "end": 12755.12}, {"text": "they are disruptive and intimidating they create barriers whether physical or emotional that can prevent residents", "start": 12755.12, "end": 12760.439}, {"text": "from safely accessing spaces like schools excuse me places of worship and child care centers we must ensure that", "start": 12760.439, "end": 12767.279}, {"text": "our residents regardless of their background or beliefs can access these Community spaces without fear of being harassed or feeling unsafe this bylaw is", "start": 12767.279, "end": 12774.8}, {"text": "not about silencing dissent and is not directed to any particular cultural religious group it is about drawing a", "start": 12774.8, "end": 12780.479}, {"text": "clear reasonable boundary that ensures public spaces remain welcoming and safe for everyone I want to respectfully", "start": 12780.479, "end": 12787.92}, {"text": "refute the notion that some of these nuisance protests may be lawful but awful if a protest intimidates or", "start": 12787.92, "end": 12794.16}, {"text": "harasses individuals and creat a barrier to Safe access we must question whether it is truly lawful under the spirit of", "start": 12794.16, "end": 12799.96}, {"text": "the charter rights and freedoms are not absolute the charter itself allows for reasonable limits when Justified and in", "start": 12799.96, "end": 12805.92}, {"text": "my opinion is entirely reasonable to regulate conduct that infringes on the rights of others yes we are operating an", "start": 12805.92, "end": 12812.04}, {"text": "uncertain legal terrain similar bylaws and other jurisdictions are yet to be chested in the courts and their", "start": 12812.04, "end": 12817.16}, {"text": "enforcement remains minimal in other communities but that should not deture us leadership requires bold action even", "start": 12817.16, "end": 12822.92}, {"text": "when certainty is unavailable by moving forward we demonstrate to our residents that their right to freely worship or go", "start": 12822.92, "end": 12828.359}, {"text": "to class safely and with dignity matters we show that Oakville is willing to take the lead and be part of the solution", "start": 12828.359, "end": 12835.279}, {"text": "just as we have done in the past I urge this Council to embrace oakville's Legacy of leadership let us take", "start": 12835.279, "end": 12841.12}, {"text": "proactive steps to ensure that all residents can access these Community spaces safely without intimidation we can move forward thoughtfully and", "start": 12841.12, "end": 12847.56}, {"text": "carefully recognizing the hard work and advice of our staff while also acknowledging our responsibility to lead", "start": 12847.56, "end": 12853.68}, {"text": "I urge you to support the next step and that's that's what it is just a step there's nothing being completed tonight nothing being ordained this evening but", "start": 12853.68, "end": 12861.479}, {"text": "we're asking this resolution asks staff to draft a balanced neutral and fair bylaw one that will still be subject to", "start": 12861.479, "end": 12867.88}, {"text": "public consultation and one that protects safe access protects Charter rights respects peaceful protests and", "start": 12867.88, "end": 12873.88}, {"text": "demonstrate once again that Oakville is a leader in doing what is right for our community thank", "start": 12873.88, "end": 12879.12}, {"text": "you thank you counselor councelor L Chen uh thank you worship I'm not sure", 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12932.92}, {"text": "what you've already said um thank you mayor Burton Council for the opportunity to speak um I appreciate the work all of", "start": 12932.92, "end": 12940.6}, {"text": "you do to keep all of us safe um and to create an inclusive and respectful community Community um my name is Nancy", "start": 12940.6, "end": 12947.92}, {"text": "fredman I'm a board member of Sher bethl synagogue in Oakville uh and certainly I'm in favor", "start": 12947.92, "end": 12954.56}, {"text": "of the bylaw that uh we're looking at creating in Oakville uh we're a reformed", "start": 12954.56, "end": 12959.64}, {"text": "congregation that values Community dialogue and peace we're active members of the Interfaith Council of Halton and", "start": 12959.64, "end": 12966.359}, {"text": "we work hard to create relationships and Partnerships with all organizations in Halton as a community there is fear and", "start": 12966.359, "end": 12974.399}, {"text": "concern with the rise in tensions as a congregation we're now", "start": 12974.399, "end": 12980}, {"text": "paying for security at our synagogue for all religious services and holidays right here in our town of", "start": 12980, "end": 12986.68}, {"text": "Oakville I see four main benefits to this bylaw it maintains peace and safety", "start": 12986.68, "end": 12993.12}, {"text": "worshippers can enter and leave places of worship without fear disruption or", "start": 12993.12, "end": 12998.64}, {"text": "harassment two it supports Community inclusivity the bylaw demonstrates", "start": 12998.64, "end": 13003.68}, {"text": "commitment to diverse faiths and Traditions that make our community vibrant three it's proactive and it's", "start": 13003.68, "end": 13011.04}, {"text": "fair by setting clear boundaries Council can prevent potential conflicts before they arise importantly this bylaw would", "start": 13011.04, "end": 13018.88}, {"text": "apply equally to all places of worship ensuring fairness across the board and", "start": 13018.88, "end": 13024}, {"text": "four it protects free expression protests and demonstrations can still occur in a way that does not", "start": 13024, "end": 13031}, {"text": "infringe on the safety of worshippers this is not about addressing one situation at one location it's about", "start": 13031, "end": 13037.56}, {"text": "creating a standard of respect for all spaces of worship in our town ensuring that every resident feels welcome", "start": 13037.56, "end": 13044.68}, {"text": "regardless of their faith or beliefs this is not a reactive measure this is a", "start": 13044.68, "end": 13049.8}, {"text": "forward-thinking policy as Jeff mentioned that promotes Community Harmony while respecting the rights of", "start": 13049.8, "end": 13056.16}, {"text": "all so um thank you for your time thank you for your", "start": 13056.16, "end": 13062.279}, {"text": "consideration thank you very much um other questions for the delegation thank", "start": 13062.279, "end": 13068.8}, {"text": "you Miss fredman Madam clerk the next delegation is stra", "start": 13068.8, "end": 13077.479}, {"text": "kill Miss kahill take your time we see you coming you're welcome here too we", "start": 13082.279, "end": 13089.199}, {"text": "look forward to your information hi thank you um I made it to the podium this time um uh my name is Jor CLE I'm", "start": 13089.199, "end": 13098.399}, {"text": "an Oakville resident a mother and a former teacher um I want to thank you for the", "start": 13098.399, "end": 13104}, {"text": "opportunity to speak on an issue that is both critical and sensitive to our community today we are discussing the", "start": 13104, "end": 13110.56}, {"text": "report that recommends imposing restrictions on demonstrations and protests within a certain distance of", "start": 13110.56, "end": 13115.8}, {"text": "what are defined as vulnerable social infrastructures such as places of worship schools and community centers", "start": 13115.8, "end": 13121.76}, {"text": "and I know that um Mr null uh mentioned childcare Cent centers a few times as well uh while I recognize the concerns", "start": 13121.76, "end": 13129}, {"text": "Behind These recommendations I must respectfully oppose them I believe these proposed measures threaten to infringe", "start": 13129, "end": 13135.08}, {"text": "upon the fundamental rights and freedoms that we all cherish as Canadians including the right to Peaceful assembly", "start": 13135.08, "end": 13141.6}, {"text": "and free expression the recommendations put forward in this report suggest adopting", "start": 13141.6, "end": 13147.6}, {"text": "a blanket policy that would prohibit demonstrations within 100 MERS of certain public spaces while the intent", "start": 13147.6, "end": 13154.199}, {"text": "may be to ensure safety I believe that such a measure risks undermining the very freedoms that we", "start": 13154.199, "end": 13159.439}, {"text": "are trying to protect specifically section two of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees all", "start": 13159.439, "end": 13165.399}, {"text": "Canadians the right to freedom of thought belief opinion expression peaceful assembly and", "start": 13165.399, "end": 13171.04}, {"text": "Association these freedoms are nonnegotiable and should not be eroded by overly broad or generalized", "start": 13171.04, "end": 13177.88}, {"text": "restrictions we must also remember that PE peaceful protests and demonstrations are part and parcel of oakville's fabric", "start": 13177.88, "end": 13185.08}, {"text": "in our town we have seen numerous occasions where residents gathered peacefully to express their views", "start": 13185.08, "end": 13190.399}, {"text": "whether to raise awareness on issues such as climate change social justice or support for marginalized communities", "start": 13190.399, "end": 13197.439}, {"text": "these protests have taken place outside of schools religious centers and other public spaces importantly they have", 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justice where individuals peacefully gathered to", "start": 13237.439, "end": 13243.76}, {"text": "express solidarity with groups facing discrimination uh or inequality in the past year citizens", "start": 13243.76, "end": 13250.88}, {"text": "have actively mobilized to bring attention to the ongoing genocide in Palestine where citizens have", "start": 13250.88, "end": 13256.64}, {"text": "participated in some of the largest demonstrations the town has witnessed all of these have occurred peacefully", "start": 13256.64, "end": 13264.279}, {"text": "often demonstrators hold political and social views that may not align with others this however does not give reason", "start": 13264.279, "end": 13270.319}, {"text": "to restrict them so long as they are not hateful these examples highlight that op", "start": 13270.319, "end": 13275.399}, {"text": "residents are capable of peaceful respectful protest our community has shown time and again that it is possible", "start": 13275.399, "end": 13281.359}, {"text": "to to voice dissent in a way that promotes dialogue and understanding rather than division or fear to suddenly", "start": 13281.359, "end": 13288.8}, {"text": "impose broad restrictions and demonstrations risk stifling this essential aspect of democratic", "start": 13288.8, "end": 13295.399}, {"text": "expression the right to assemble peacefully and express one's views is fundamental to the fabric of Canadian", "start": 13295.399, "end": 13301.319}, {"text": "society and we must be uh very cautious about introducing policies that could limit this right the proposed 100 meter", "start": 13301.319, "end": 13309.159}, {"text": "restriction may sound like a solution but it risks overreach by placing such a wide geographical limit on protests we", "start": 13309.159, "end": 13317}, {"text": "may unintentionally suppress those who wish to engage in peaceful Democratic expression even when their intentions", "start": 13317, "end": 13323.159}, {"text": "are not to disrupt or intimidate others we must also consider the unintended", "start": 13323.159, "end": 13328.6}, {"text": "consequences of such a policy it could lead to a chilling effect on future protests with citizens unsure sure of", "start": 13328.6, "end": 13336}, {"text": "where they can express their views without fear of breaking the law this is not the path that Oakville should take", "start": 13336, "end": 13342.64}, {"text": "it is important to remember that the Canadian Charter allows for reasonable limits on rights and freedoms limits", "start": 13342.64, "end": 13347.84}, {"text": "that can be demonstrably justified in a free and Democratic Society however", "start": 13347.84, "end": 13352.92}, {"text": "these limits must be carefully calibrated to ensure that they do not unduly restrict the core values of our", "start": 13352.92, "end": 13358.359}, {"text": "society by blanket Banning protests within 100 meters of certain locations which I'm not even sure which", "start": 13358.359, "end": 13365.199}, {"text": "on they are uh we risk Crossing that line and imposing an excessive restriction on free speech and assembly", "start": 13365.199, "end": 13371.68}, {"text": "furthermore Oakville already has mechanis mechanisms in place to ensure Public Safety during demonstrations", "start": 13371.68, "end": 13378.279}, {"text": "whether through invoking the trespass to property act or seeking law enforcement support we have the tools to address", "start": 13378.279, "end": 13384.72}, {"text": "disruptive or unlawful pres protests without resorting to overly broad geographical restrictions our local", "start": 13384.72, "end": 13391.56}, {"text": "police Halton Regional Police Services are skilled in maintaining public order and safety while respecting the", "start": 13391.56, "end": 13397}, {"text": "Democratic rights of individuals by continuing to work with law enforcement and relying on existing legal Frameworks", "start": 13397, "end": 13403.439}, {"text": "we can handle disturbances effectively without undermining fundamental freedoms", "start": 13403.439, "end": 13408.68}, {"text": "instead of limiting where protests can occur I believe oaka should should focus on fostering a community where dialogue", "start": 13408.68, "end": 13414.68}, {"text": "and understanding are prioritized we should work together with faith leaders Community organizers and residents to", "start": 13414.68, "end": 13420.399}, {"text": "find ways to ensure that our places of worship schools and other vital institutions remain safe and accessible", "start": 13420.399, "end": 13426.399}, {"text": "to all without unnecessarily limiting the rights of those who wish to voice their concerns the solution lies not in", "start": 13426.399, "end": 13432.88}, {"text": "limiting free expression but encouraging respectful constructive conversations that allow us to address these", "start": 13432.88, "end": 13438.399}, {"text": "challenges as a United Community in conclusion while I 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questions thank you very much for your message um Madam", "start": 13478.76, "end": 13484.279}, {"text": "Clerk the next delegation is laara Al Omari Miss Al", "start": 13484.279, "end": 13492.319}, {"text": "Omari welcome Council looks forward to your", "start": 13492.319, "end": 13498.601}, {"text": "information hello this is my first time speaking here hello everyone um I'm just", "start": 13502.199, "end": 13508.279}, {"text": "um I think idra touched on a lot of things that um I've always also done so", "start": 13508.279, "end": 13515.199}, {"text": "I'm just going to go I'm I'm going to focus on what I know best and that is", "start": 13515.199, "end": 13520.439}, {"text": "schools um schools are among the most likely locations for minors to", "start": 13520.439, "end": 13526.8}, {"text": "protest especially on issues directly affecting them by introducing policies that", "start": 13526.8, "end": 13532.88}, {"text": "preemptively regulate protests in schools or other vulnerable social", "start": 13532.88, "end": 13538.84}, {"text": "infrastructure the policy effectively prevents students from protesting in the", "start": 13538.84, "end": 13543.88}, {"text": "very space where the voice their voices are most relevant this creates a", "start": 13543.88, "end": 13551.56}, {"text": "contradiction miners are expected to exercise their right of to Peaceful", "start": 13551.56, "end": 13558.96}, {"text": "assembly in areas where they are present daily yet the policy the the report", "start": 13558.96, "end": 13565.92}, {"text": "makes it nearly um impossible to do so without running a foul of mun Municipal", "start": 13565.92, "end": 13573.68}, {"text": "restrictions while miners have the right to Peaceful assembly under the", "start": 13573.68, "end": 13579.359}, {"text": "charter this proposal um sort of prioritize maintaining order over", "start": 13579.359, "end": 13586}, {"text": "upholding their Democratic freedoms which undermines the very", "start": 13586, 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you brought councelor no I have a question for the delegate", "start": 13644.68, "end": 13651.92}, {"text": "yeah um well first of all I just want to say I agree with you 100% with what you're saying and that is in no way", "start": 13651.92, "end": 13657.359}, {"text": "impacts uh the motion that's put forward and so I wonder have you seen the motion that we're voting on you've seen the motion I saw it up here yes you saw it", "start": 13657.359, "end": 13664.12}, {"text": "up there yeah so did you read the the the the Clause 1A that says the regulated conduct should be limited", "start": 13664.12, "end": 13670.84}, {"text": "properly defined and focused on activities impeding access to vulnerable social infrastructure so it's it's", "start": 13670.84, "end": 13676.04}, {"text": "talking about actions that impede access or otherwise um impact the ability of", "start": 13676.04, "end": 13682.08}, {"text": "people to be able to come and go from these facilities safely it doesn't any in any way impact children in schools", "start": 13682.08, "end": 13689.12}, {"text": "did you yeah but schools is what of is is what was on the report right not", "start": 13689.12, "end": 13694.159}, {"text": "necessarily the law that you that youtrod today what in the report suggests that somehow students would be", "start": 13694.159, "end": 13700.72}, {"text": "stifled sorry sorry sorry go ahead no I'm asking a question this is a", "start": 13700.72, "end": 13707.96}, {"text": "question judge me on the question what in the report suggests to", "start": 13707.96, "end": 13714.8}, {"text": "you that we would um that that first of all there's no BW Pros but what what in", "start": 13714.8, "end": 13721.04}, {"text": "the report frightens you to think that we would stop peaceful protests on a school property or that we would even", "start": 13721.04, "end": 13726.439}, {"text": "have the right to do that yeah um well vulnerable populations you know like", "start": 13726.439, "end": 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thank you I it's close but we're going past", "start": 13776.159, "end": 13783.479}, {"text": "the hour now Council just in the name of order and and good governance it's our", "start": 13783.479, "end": 13790.279}, {"text": "established practice that we debate each other not our delegates are we we receive their information and we", "start": 13790.279, "end": 13796.479}, {"text": "consider it in our debate with each other so if we could do that that would be really nice please and thank you and", "start": 13796.479, "end": 13804.6}, {"text": "Madam clerk would you call the next delegation next delegation is Hugh", "start": 13804.6, "end": 13811.56}, {"text": "dhy Mr dhy welcome Council looks forward to your information thank you Mr Mayor and", "start": 13812.359, "end": 13820}, {"text": "Council thanks for letting me speak this evening my name is Hugh Dy and I've", "start": 13820, "end": 13825.52}, {"text": "benefited from immigrating to Canada in 1968 as a child born in da", "start": 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can be limited to protect other rights or important National values for example freedom of expression", "start": 14021.279, "end": 14028.88}, {"text": "may be limited by laws against hate propaganda we had that we have laws", "start": 14028.88, "end": 14034}, {"text": "against hate propaganda across Canada our police forces are well and capable", "start": 14034, "end": 14039.76}, {"text": "of enforcing those laws the Supreme Court has recognize that freedom of expression does not extend to protect", "start": 14039.76, "end": 14046.479}, {"text": "threats of violence or acts of violence we have that the police forces", "start": 14046.479, "end": 14052.04}, {"text": "are quite capable and ready unable to address anybody who gets out of line", "start": 14052.04, "end": 14058}, {"text": "your police force has demonstrated that time and time again or other clearly unlawful conduct", "start": 14058, "end": 14066.68}, {"text": "in addition in some cases the reasonable limits prescribed Bel law will also", "start": 14066.68, "end": 14072.52}, {"text": "apply if there are threats of violence or acts of violence restriction of the freedom of others the police already", "start": 14072.52, "end": 14078.88}, {"text": "have enough power and enough authority to arrest or detain any offending parties", "start": 14078.88, "end": 14085.52}, {"text": "in my life I have defended the rights and freedoms of people who practice different faiths worked with them on", "start": 14085.52, "end": 14090.68}, {"text": "communities and I respect them I have sat on committees and Boards of the Cel", "start": 14090.68, "end": 14096.8}, {"text": "synagogue St Mary Star of the SE church and I have worked in cooperation with many Muslim", "start": 14096.8, "end": 14103.199}, {"text": "groups and many others that do not practice a particular Faith the people I", "start": 14103.199, "end": 14109.12}, {"text": "am here to speak of on behalf of are Palestinian palestin palestin has", "start": 14109.12, "end": 14114.8}, {"text": "historically been made up of three abrahamic faiths Judaism Christian and", "start": 14114.8, "end": 14120.399}, {"text": "Muslim they do not protest people because of their Jewish faith and are not expressing anti-semitic", "start": 14120.399, "end": 14127}, {"text": "sentiment as a group the only protests outside synagogues have taken place", "start": 14127, "end": 14133.199}, {"text": "because business meetings are being held that are contrary to international law", "start": 14133.199, "end": 14138.279}, {"text": "this is the business of selling what the icj the ICC and the United Nations", "start": 14138.279, "end": 14143.56}, {"text": "recognize as Palestinian land occupied occupied territories by Israel", "start": 14143.56, "end": 14150.84}, {"text": "here is a clear distinction these companies and real estate agents are flouting the law by hiding behind the", "start": 14150.84, "end": 14156.68}, {"text": "cloak of religion this is being backed by the political entity called Israel the the world stood by in the", "start": 14156.68, "end": 14164.439}, {"text": "1930s during World War II as innocent Jewish people were disenfranchised their", "start": 14164.439, "end": 14170.12}, {"text": "land homes and possessions taken away and given to others many were killed in the streets as others just watched we", "start": 14170.12, "end": 14177.84}, {"text": "have got to be ashamed of that happening the ones that survived the camps were treated as being ungrateful", "start": 14177.84, "end": 14185.04}, {"text": "for surviving if they tried to claim homes back that had been confiscated we", "start": 14185.04, "end": 14191}, {"text": "did next to nothing to stop it Palestinian lands are being taken", "start": 14191, "end": 14196.6}, {"text": "houses are being bombed or bulldozed families that have lived in them for Generations are being evicted told to", "start": 14196.6, "end": 14202.52}, {"text": "run to Safe zones by by Israel and later those safe zones have been bombed all", "start": 14202.52, "end": 14208.96}, {"text": "these lands that the international legal bodies have determined are illegally occupied by Israel again we do nothing", "start": 14208.96, "end": 14217.12}, {"text": "while genocide persists the right to protest without violence is an integral part of our", "start": 14217.12, "end": 14224.68}, {"text": "society the charter does not classify it as limited or restricted freedom to", "start": 14224.68, "end": 14230.12}, {"text": "Peaceful assembly I do not believe the charter gives this body the right to rest restrict such Freedom or create", "start": 14230.12, "end": 14235.8}, {"text": "free speech bubbles or zones Etc it is very clear there are elements within", "start": 14235.8, "end": 14241.08}, {"text": "today's society that want to silence the voices of Palestinian people and their supporters or put them where they cannot", "start": 14241.08, "end": 14247.76}, {"text": "be heard be that 100 yards away thousand yards away", "start": 14247.76, "end": 14253.64}, {"text": "whatever in a democracy it is our duty to ensure that does not happen do not", "start": 14253.64, "end": 14258.72}, {"text": "become their accomplice do not protect those that would break international law by restricting the right of those that", "start": 14258.72, "end": 14265.479}, {"text": "protest the theft of their own lands I thank you for your time thank", "start": 14265.479, "end": 14271.439}, {"text": "you Mr D for your information thank you sir thank you", "start": 14271.439, "end": 14277}, {"text": "Madame clerk next delegate is meline", "start": 14277, "end": 14281.68}, {"text": "Rod Miss Rod welcome Council looks forward to your information thank", "start": 14286.239, "end": 14292.279}, {"text": "you can you hear me okay okay like this okay good evening mayor Burton and", "start": 14292.279, "end": 14297.96}, {"text": "members of council my name is madlin Rod and I'm here tonight as a proud Palestinian who", "start": 14297.96, "end": 14304.6}, {"text": "grew up in Oakville and I would like to address the proposed measures and the roles and responsibilities in managing", "start": 14304.6, "end": 14311.08}, {"text": "protest report while I recognize the intent to maintain public order and safety I'm", "start": 14311.08, "end": 14318.359}, {"text": "deeply concerned about the implications this initiative could have on our fundamental rights particularly as", "start": 14318.359, "end": 14325.159}, {"text": "guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms section two of the charter", "start": 14325.159, "end": 14331.52}, {"text": "enshrines our rights to our rights to Freedom sorry our rights to freedom of", "start": 14331.52, "end": 14338.399}, {"text": "expression peaceful assembly and Association these rights are not merely", "start": 14338.399, "end": 14344.239}, {"text": "symbolic they are essential to the health of our democracy they provide marginalized", "start": 14344.239, "end": 14349.96}, {"text": "voices including those of Palestinians like myself a means to advocate for", "start": 14349.96, "end": 14355.72}, {"text": "justice and equality any limitations on these rights", "start": 14355.72, "end": 14360.92}, {"text": "must be carefully scrutinized to ensure that they are evidently justified in a free and Democratic Society as per", "start": 14360.92, "end": 14367.92}, {"text": "section one of the charter the report references examples from other municipalities like vaugh and", "start": 14367.92, "end": 14375.8}, {"text": "Calgary which have implemented buffer zones or similar restrictions while these measures may", "start": 14375.8, "end": 14382.239}, {"text": "claim to Target nuisance prot protests they risk creating a chilling effect that deters legitimate peaceful", "start": 14382.239, "end": 14389.239}, {"text": "expressions of dissent in fact such restrictions may", "start": 14389.239, "end": 14394.319}, {"text": "disproportionately impact communities in Oakville from advocating for systemic change particularly those already facing", "start": 14394.319, "end": 14401.72}, {"text": "discrimination or marginalization as a Palestinian I know", "start": 14401.72, "end": 14406.92}, {"text": "firsthand how vital peaceful protests are in amplifying voices that often go", "start": 14406.92, "end": 14412.199}, {"text": "unheard protests and support of Palestine for example challenge prevailing narratives and provide", "start": 14412.199, "end": 14418.52}, {"text": "crucial education to the broader public the examples cited in the report", "start": 14418.52, "end": 14424.399}, {"text": "raise further concerns for instance the Calgary safe and inclusive access bylaw", "start": 14424.399, "end": 14430.96}, {"text": "is already under judicial review highlighting the contentious and potentially unconstitutional nature of", "start": 14430.96, "end": 14437.439}, {"text": "these measures do we want Oakville to adopt policies that risk similar challenges", "start": 14437.439, "end": 14443.479}, {"text": "and legal expenses using our tax dollars no doubt and not to mention infringing", "start": 14443.479, "end": 14449.239}, {"text": "on Oakville residents Charter rights in the process as my peers have stated our", "start": 14449.239, "end": 14454.88}, {"text": "existing legal framework already addresses non-p peaceful conduct the criminal code of Canada and the trespass", "start": 14454.88, "end": 14461.56}, {"text": "to property act provide robust mechanisms to handle disruptions violence and", "start": 14461.56, "end": 14467.6}, {"text": "intimidation it is also crucial to consider the broader message these restrictions send to the community", "start": 14467.6, "end": 14474.52}, {"text": "through this protest regulation we may unintentionally reinforce a perception", "start": 14474.52, "end": 14479.76}, {"text": "that peaceful protests are inherently threatening and as we've heard from our friends at Halton Regional Police the", "start": 14479.76, "end": 14487.08}, {"text": "majority of the protests they have engaged with have been peaceful this narrative risks stigmatizing those who", "start": 14487.08, "end": 14493.68}, {"text": "exercise their Democratic rights and alienating community members who already feel", "start": 14493.68, "end": 14499.6}, {"text": "marginalized instead of pursuing measures that could curtail our democratic freom freedoms I urge Council", "start": 14499.6, "end": 14505.6}, {"text": "to prioritize initiatives that Foster dialogue mutual respect and understanding for instance the town", "start": 14505.6, "end": 14512.12}, {"text": "could establish forums for open discussion where concerns about specific protests can be addressed constructively", "start": 14512.12, "end": 14518.52}, {"text": "without resorting to blanket restrictions in conclusion I ask Council", "start": 14518.52, "end": 14523.88}, {"text": "to reconsider the approach outlined in this report let us focus on solutions that uphold the spirit of the charter", "start": 14523.88, "end": 14530.52}, {"text": "and reinforce oakville's commitment to inclusive inclusivity equity and Democratic part", "start": 14530.52, "end": 14536.92}, {"text": "participation we all share a desire for safety and Harmony but these goals must", "start": 14536.92, "end": 14542.239}, {"text": "never come at the expense of our fundamental freedoms thank you for your time and consideration thank you very", "start": 14542.239, "end": 14548.239}, {"text": "much for your message happy to answer any questions um councelor ilgar has one", "start": 14548.239, "end": 14553.439}, {"text": "for you just a quick question were you here to see what councelor null and councel Chin are putting forward tonight", "start": 14553.439, "end": 14559.92}, {"text": "yes do you have a major issue with what they're doing it looks like they want public consult a and and and they try to address all of", "start": 14559.92, "end": 14567.279}, {"text": "that I think the idea of putting the motion forward for the bylaw is", "start": 14567.279, "end": 14573.399}, {"text": "redundant okay I hear what you're saying but that like there's no bylaw tonight it's just maybe there will be none you", "start": 14573.399, "end": 14579.159}, {"text": "know that but that's what I'm just trying to think I think they're trying to get to us the sweet point of actually what you're asking for so then what's", "start": 14579.159, "end": 14585.96}, {"text": "the point of putting a motion forward for a bylaw if it's not going to take place well it's always good to know for", "start": 14585.96, "end": 14591.76}, {"text": "all all of us to learn as we go and educate ourselves so I think that's it's a good reason I'm curious to know out of", "start": 14591.76, "end": 14597.84}, {"text": "all of the counselors here who's actually spoken to the Palestinian Community well I I'm not sure thank you", "start": 14597.84, "end": 14605.88}, {"text": "oh you have that's great I'm glad to hear that two out of how many counselors are", "start": 14605.88, "end": 14613}, {"text": "here yeah I don't think that's fair I really don't but I appreciate it and I thanks for coming out thank you thank", "start": 14613, "end": 14621.359}, {"text": "you madam Clerk the next delegation is stevenh", "start": 14622.04, "end": 14629.238}, {"text": "Weiss Rabbi Weiss welcome Council looks forward to your", "start": 14630.04, "end": 14635.279}, {"text": "information thank you mayor Burton I stand here with the Interfaith Council of Halton we represent Muslim Jewish", "start": 14635.279, "end": 14644.68}, {"text": "Hindu sik bahai Christian uh this is you know us well we've been in this", "start": 14644.68, "end": 14650.359}, {"text": "community for uh many years since 2001 uh we had a discussion about um Jeff n's", "start": 14650.359, "end": 14658.199}, {"text": "proposal that's on the floor um we believe that worshippers should be able", 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the Interfaith", "start": 14699.92, "end": 14705}, {"text": "Council of Halton are to promote peace Harmony and understanding through education recent incidents have prompted", "start": 14705, "end": 14712.12}, {"text": "us to take a stand and support the city and law enforcement departments in maintaining the sanctity of places of", "start": 14712.12, "end": 14718.64}, {"text": "worship the right to peacefully protest is a basic human right worshippers also have the right to attend the respective", "start": 14718.64, "end": 14725.319}, {"text": "places of worship without fear and in peace uh so the decision made by the uh", "start": 14725.319, "end": 14731.56}, {"text": "Interfaith Council of hton he stands behind he just couldn't be here tonight so we just wanted to see all of us", "start": 14731.56, "end": 14737.239}, {"text": "representing this that we do support what you're saying jeffel thank you thank you Rabbi wise", "start": 14737.239, "end": 14745.64}, {"text": "hello Mr Mayor and Council I'm Arvin Chri from Hindu Community uh I", "start": 14748.72, "end": 14754.6}, {"text": "completely welcome what you're proposing here it's all about being proactive we should not be", "start": 14754.6, "end": 14761.08}, {"text": "waiting for the incident to get happened and then we should be reacting on that if we talking about Oak will region", "start": 14761.08, "end": 14769.199}, {"text": "there was a protest because of the protest that Hindu temple had to canel can that event and it was a", "start": 14769.199, "end": 14776.159}, {"text": "threat that was set to that event that there's a threat that's why it has to be cancelled how come then it it's peaceful", "start": 14776.159, "end": 14782.64}, {"text": "protest then how come there was a threat and if there is a threat then it was not a peaceful protest though so what sort", "start": 14782.64, "end": 14789.279}, {"text": "of accountability we're going to put on the other side that if somebody's protesting we have heard in the other", "start": 14789.279, "end": 14795}, {"text": "side in other city and and the municipality the temple were asked to", "start": 14795, "end": 14800.159}, {"text": "sign up or give some insurance and this and that to have that uh program conducted I think it should be asked to", "start": 14800.159, "end": 14806.239}, {"text": "the protester that you know what you got to give the guarantee that it's going to be the peaceful otherwise this is what that the consequences will", "start": 14806.239, "end": 14812.12}, {"text": "be the very first thing I'll ask that I'm not going to ask any one of you who have uh consulted Hindu Community Muslim", "start": 14812.12, "end": 14819.68}, {"text": "or s or whoever have you consulted Canadian Community or not if you have you're on the right track we have left", "start": 14819.68, "end": 14826.56}, {"text": "everything behind we a Canadian here Canada first and we got to protect each and every single Canadian and I", "start": 14826.56, "end": 14831.72}, {"text": "completely welcome your motion there thank", "start": 14831.72, "end": 14835.96}, {"text": "you I support whatever Steven has said and what arind has", "start": 14837.92, "end": 14844.64}, {"text": "said let us be a peaceful community in oil the community that has always been", "start": 14844.64, "end": 14852.04}, {"text": "will be for the future as well thank", "start": 14852.04, "end": 14857.439}, {"text": "you thank you very much for your information and your delegation madam cler", "start": 14857.64, "end": 14864.08}, {"text": "next delegation is Alice so", "start": 14864.08, "end": 14867.8}, {"text": "Caro Miss o Carol welcome Council looks forward to your information thank you good evening mayor", "start": 14871.319, "end": 14878.76}, {"text": "Burton and council members my name is Alisa Carl I am an Oakville resident I", "start": 14878.76, "end": 14884.08}, {"text": "moved here from C from Ireland in 2012 thank you for the opportunity to speak", "start": 14884.08, "end": 14889.119}, {"text": "with you this evening I understand Oakville Town Council is considering following the example of vaugh in", "start": 14889.119, "end": 14895.319}, {"text": "passing a bylaw that regulates what it terms nuisance protests within a", "start": 14895.319, "end": 14900.76}, {"text": "reasonable distance of Institutions such as places of worship schools Child Care Centers and town facilities I asked for", "start": 14900.76, "end": 14908.52}, {"text": "the opportunity to speak to you tonight as I believe this should not happen let me explain why one of the things I", "start": 14908.52, "end": 14916.279}, {"text": "really value about Canada is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms", "start": 14916.279, "end": 14921.76}, {"text": "the charter guarantees fundament Al rights and freedoms Freedom of thought opinion expression peaceful assembly and", "start": 14921.76, "end": 14929.359}, {"text": "peaceful Association in short we are free to have our own opinions we're free to express", "start": 14929.359, "end": 14935.92}, {"text": "these opinions and we are free to assemble peacefully to do so this is", "start": 14935.92, "end": 14941.52}, {"text": "crucial to our democracy would you not agree naturally hate speech is", "start": 14941.52, "end": 14947.84}, {"text": "prohibited under the charter as it should be we have a course of action to follow in the event of non peaceful", "start": 14947.84, "end": 14954.159}, {"text": "protests the law is quite adequate on this people can invoke the trespass to", "start": 14954.159, "end": 14960.359}, {"text": "property act uh contact Halton police or seek a court injunction we heard from", "start": 14960.359, "end": 14966.239}, {"text": "the Halton police earlier this evening and they have also confirms there has been no violence there has been no", "start": 14966.239, "end": 14972.68}, {"text": "disturbance the protests that we have seen here have been peaceful um I've", 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voice our opinions and contribute to a better world for all or do we only", "start": 15024.359, "end": 15030.52}, {"text": "want to be quiet and peaceful and not disturb the peace this is a very", "start": 15030.52, "end": 15035.56}, {"text": "important question and one that I would really ask you to consider in drawing up", "start": 15035.56, "end": 15040.68}, {"text": "a a bylaw I would prefer that no bylaw uh comes into effect to restrict our", "start": 15040.68, "end": 15046.68}, {"text": "ability to do to to protest to share our opinions to express ourselves when we", "start": 15046.68, "end": 15053.84}, {"text": "see the massacre the massacre of children the massacre of people on a", "start": 15053.84, "end": 15059.64}, {"text": "daily basis on our phones and on our screens this cannot be restricted to do", "start": 15059.64, "end": 15067.319}, {"text": "anything to restrict this um is to silence us and is to tell us that we", "start": 15067.319, "end": 15073.64}, {"text": "have we are better to be quiet and just tow the line and fit in this is not who", "start": 15073.64, "end": 15079.6}, {"text": "I want us to be as a society I understand that many people in", "start": 15079.6, "end": 15086.52}, {"text": "Oakville find our protests a nuisance and so I I assume this is why it's been", "start": 15086.52, "end": 15091.8}, {"text": "termed nuisance protests I understand many people don't want to hear our opinions um and they don't want to have", "start": 15091.8, "end": 15099.199}, {"text": "their day Disturbed they just want to go shopping they want to go and have a coffee meet their friends and they don't", "start": 15099.199, "end": 15104.319}, {"text": "want to be bothered by these things that they see as having nothing to do with them", "start": 15104.319, "end": 15111.439}, {"text": "um however it is so important that we have the right to speak out it is so", "start": 15111.439, "end": 15117.279}, {"text": "important that we are there to speak for the vulnerable there to speak for the people who have no rights and no", "start": 15117.279, "end": 15123.92}, {"text": "freedoms the people who are being murdered on a daily basis we have to speak out if we are to be a civil", "start": 15123.92, "end": 15130.8}, {"text": "society we must do so so there is no violence in these", "start": 15130.8, "end": 15136.239}, {"text": "protests there is no he hate speech from any of the protesters there is no danger from anyone apart from the danger of", "start": 15136.239, "end": 15143.64}, {"text": "being disturbed uh as you drink your coffee because you don't want to hear these opinions you don't want to have", "start": 15143.64, "end": 15149.88}, {"text": "access to this uh this kind of protest so really I would ask you why is", "start": 15149.88, "end": 15155.88}, {"text": "there a need to bring at a bylaw of this nature the police have already confirmed that there is no need for this so I", "start": 15155.88, "end": 15163.439}, {"text": "asking you why do we need to be proactive why do we need to think about this I see no need for it surely the", "start": 15163.439, "end": 15170.72}, {"text": "police have confirmed and you can all agree um it would be dangerous to try to", "start": 15170.72, "end": 15176.359}, {"text": "silence your residents in any way when there is no danger uh for the community", "start": 15176.359, "end": 15182.199}, {"text": "to us speaking our minds and advocating for people who have no rights surely um", "start": 15182.199, "end": 15188.68}, {"text": "particularly our religious institutions and our schools and indeed our own", "start": 15188.68, "end": 15193.88}, {"text": "Council buildings are the very places we should be encouraged to speak our mind", "start": 15193.88, "end": 15199.84}, {"text": "uh would you not agree silence is not the answer um", "start": 15199.84, "end": 15205.479}, {"text": "silence did not end the apari regime in South Africa silence would not will not", "start": 15205.479, "end": 15210.68}, {"text": "end the genocide in Gaza we are all suffering as we see the ongoing Massacre", "start": 15210.68, "end": 15216.159}, {"text": "of starving children in tents in Gaza you must allow us to continue to speak", "start": 15216.159, "end": 15223.199}, {"text": "I urge you to remain true to the spirit of the Charter of Rights and freedom and do not enact a bylaw of this nature the", "start": 15223.199, "end": 15230.6}, {"text": "Palestinians need us to keep reminding the world what is being done to them and", "start": 15230.6, "end": 15235.84}, {"text": "Oak villians need to hear this message too thank you so much for your time and for your", "start": 15235.84, "end": 15241.64}, {"text": "attention thank you Miss o Carol for your information thank you madam", "start": 15241.64, "end": 15247.52}, {"text": "clar next delegate is U Michael dubberstein", "start": 15247.52, "end": 15253.64}, {"text": "welcome Mr duberstein we look forward to your", "start": 15267.359, "end": 15272.04}, {"text": "presentation good evening honorable mayor Burton distinguished councilors", "start": 15282.04, "end": 15287.64}, {"text": "Phil O Williams it's the first time I'm speaking in front of the council and it's a very and I didn't", "start": 15287.64, "end": 15295.119}, {"text": "expect to educate the Council on the history Middle East or in my personal history but I", "start": 15295.119, "end": 15301.56}, {"text": "will my name is Michael duberstein I'm 59 years old from Minsk bellarus I'm a", "start": 15301.56, "end": 15306.8}, {"text": "resident of Oakville since 2003 I have been a Canadian citizen", "start": 15306.8, "end": 15312.52}, {"text": "since 2005 I learned about my ethnicity at the", "start": 15312.52, "end": 15317.88}, {"text": "age of three when I was called by my neighbors in Minsk", "start": 15317.88, "end": 15323.159}, {"text": "Belarus then my parents had to explain to me the meaning of the word Kik and", "start": 15323.159, "end": 15328.439}, 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"end": 15387.399}, {"text": "of paktia in central Israel missed my wife by just one", "start": 15387.399, "end": 15394.08}, {"text": "hour between 2005 and October 7", "start": 15394.479, "end": 15399.52}, {"text": "2023 there have been no Israeli or Jewish presence in Gaza or in", "start": 15399.52, "end": 15407.52}, {"text": "Lebanon yet my extended family in Israel has been living under Hamas in Hezbollah", "start": 15407.52, "end": 15414.199}, {"text": "missiles since 2000 since 2007 to", "start": 15414.199, "end": 15420.439}, {"text": "today the anti-israeli and frankly anti-jewish protests I witnessed in", "start": 15421.119, "end": 15426.52}, {"text": "Oakville in Burlington this year were intended to pressure Holton policy", "start": 15426.52, "end": 15432.239}, {"text": "makers and the general public by intimidation and not by argumentation", "start": 15432.239, "end": 15439}, {"text": "into making decisions that that were beyond the scope of my of any local", "start": 15439, "end": 15446.359}, {"text": "government these protests called for the elimination of the state of Israel as a", "start": 15446.359, "end": 15452.319}, {"text": "colonial and aparti Enterprise which is a Blendon lie in the blood", "start": 15452.319, "end": 15460.319}, {"text": "label the likes of me and and my family are not colonizers neither in Israel nor here in", "start": 15460.319, "end": 15469.199}, {"text": "Canada support for the existence of the state of Israel is part of who I", "start": 15469.199, "end": 15476.278}, {"text": "am the calls by the protesters in this on the streets of hton like Allah abbar", "start": 15476.479, "end": 15483.84}, {"text": "takir from The River To The Sea Palestine will be free who this who this make us proud", "start": 15483.84, "end": 15490.52}, {"text": "turn another ship around globalized the intifa go to Poland are not calls for", "start": 15490.52, "end": 15498.96}, {"text": "peaceful coexistence these are the calls for the destructions of destruction of", "start": 15498.96, "end": 15506.04}, {"text": "Israel and extermination of Jews they will end up in pograms here", "start": 15506.04, "end": 15513.239}, {"text": "against the Jews if go unchecked I cannot and I will not go to", "start": 15513.239, "end": 15519}, {"text": "Poland or in my case to bellus on April", "start": 15519, "end": 15526}, {"text": "15th at the Oakville so-called peaceful protest at this town", "start": 15526, "end": 15532.681}, {"text": "hall 16 to 18yearold demonstrators approached me with a question how many", "start": 15532.72, "end": 15539.399}, {"text": "Palestinians did you kill today sorry how many Palestinian children did you kill today they called", "start": 15539.399, "end": 15546.88}, {"text": "me a a child killer and showed me the middle finger the that was before I", "start": 15546.88, "end": 15553.56}, {"text": "managed to have any meaningful conversation with them I stood with a", "start": 15553.56, "end": 15558.64}, {"text": "group of 20 people in front of50 or so teenagers six-foot hulks some", "start": 15558.64, "end": 15566.96}, {"text": "of them who come to me and when I tried to have a conversation these are the", "start": 15566.96, "end": 15572.119}, {"text": "things that they would tell me most of", "start": 15572.119, "end": 15577.88}, {"text": "them never live to sorry I came with a sheet of paper with about the basic", "start": 15577.88, "end": 15585.279}, {"text": "facts of what I experienced and what and what is experienced by Israelis and Jews", "start": 15585.279, "end": 15591.64}, {"text": "like me most of these folks have didn't want", "start": 15591.64, "end": 15597.319}, {"text": "to look at this they've never lived in Israel and had any had no desire to hear", "start": 15597.319, "end": 15603.92}, {"text": "my experiences I support the freedom of", "start": 15603.92, "end": 15611.159}, {"text": "speech however because because of my personal experience with the protesters", "start": 15611.159, "end": 15616.359}, {"text": "I ask counselors to continue with this", "start": 15616.359, "end": 15621.439}, {"text": "Motion in order to protect vulnerable public infrastructure to create the bubble by", "start": 15621.439, "end": 15628.68}, {"text": "law prohibiting the nuisance demonstrations and especially around", "start": 15628.68, "end": 15636.92}, {"text": "schools now one of the uh one of the presenters I I think", "start": 15637.8, "end": 15642.84}, {"text": "Miss Campbell said called the prot protest peaceful non- intimidating uh some of them called for", "start": 15642.84, "end": 15650.359}, {"text": "respectful dialogue or constructive dialogue I've been in two protests", "start": 15650.359, "end": 15655.84}, {"text": "myself in front of the uh in front of the children so-called children when they were led by adults in most cases", "start": 15655.84, "end": 15662.76}, {"text": "and I tried to engage with them in in conversation in a respectful one they were not interested for the", "start": 15662.76, "end": 15669.319}, {"text": "most part so just as I gave a couple of", "start": 15669.319, "end": 15674.561}, {"text": "examples there was an Afghan kid like six six foot he came over to me and said", "start": 15675.6, "end": 15681.76}, {"text": "I I don't have to know anything you're a child killer that's", "start": 15681.76, "end": 15687.119}, {"text": "it", "start": 15687.119, "end": 15690.119}, {"text": "now if there was a space for constructive conversation we wouldn't be here and I'm prepared to answer any of", "start": 15693.08, "end": 15700.96}, {"text": "um sorry I actually will have to mention a couple of basic facts of the history of Israel I told you my", "start": 15700.96, "end": 15708.8}, {"text": "history not a single piece of Palestinian land was was taken", "start": 15708.8, "end": 15714.479}, {"text": "forcefully until 1947 until the fall of 1947 none all of", "start": 15714.479, "end": 15720.76}, {"text": "it was legally bought from Palestinian land owners and only when Arab Nations", "start": 15720.76, "end": 15727.319}, {"text": "and specifically Palestinian Arabs started the war in 1947 their War Force", "start": 15727.319, "end": 15732.68}, {"text": "ful displacement of Palestinian Arabs between 1936 and 1939 there was", "start": 15732.68, "end": 15740.479}, {"text": "Arab Revolt where Jews were slaughtered by Palestinian Arabs the first pograms in", "start": 15740.479, "end": 15748.319}, {"text": "Israel happened not in Israel in mandate Palestine happened in 1920 in", "start": 15748.319, "end": 15755.52}, {"text": "1929 67 Jews were killed in heon in", "start": 15755.52, "end": 15761.119}, {"text": "aagam do you councilors know do you councils do you councilors know that", "start": 15761.119, "end": 15771.159}, {"text": "uh where aljin Al husseini the leader of", "start": 15771.76, "end": 15777.319}, {"text": "I'm sorry let me speak do you councelors know that in where alj alhussein", "start": 15777.319, "end": 15784.08}, {"text": "spent the years of the war between 1941 and", "start": 15784.08, "end": 15789.521}, {"text": "1945 he spent these years this is the leader of Palestinian national movement he spent these years in Germany planning", "start": 15789.56, "end": 15798.04}, {"text": "Holocaust of Jews and Palestine there is there is only one", "start": 15798.04, "end": 15804.239}, {"text": "tiny Jewish State there are 50 Muslim majority States in", "start": 15804.239, "end": 15810.04}, {"text": "22 Arab states and what the what the kids", "start": 15810.04, "end": 15815.159}, {"text": "so-called kids call here in Oakville for they're not call calling for peaceful coexistence what they're doing they're", "start": 15815.159, "end": 15822.76}, {"text": "Prosecuting the war on 194 1948 on the streets of Oakville I've seen it myself", "start": 15822.76, "end": 15831.08}, {"text": "I'm prepared to answer any of your questions Mr duberstein thank you very", "start": 15831.08, "end": 15836.68}, {"text": "much for your history and your information I do not see any", "start": 15836.68, "end": 15842.08}, {"text": "questions Madame clerk the next delegate is rishma man manget", "start": 15842.08, "end": 15849.52}, {"text": "Miss mang welcome", "start": 15857.08, "end": 15862.64}, {"text": "that's just trying to lighten it up just trying to lighten it up folks I", "start": 15862.64, "end": 15869}, {"text": "I would like to caution the audience that we value courtesy here and um so", "start": 15869, "end": 15876.399}, {"text": "you know please uh call on your better nature to restrain yourself from interrupting", "start": 15876.399, "end": 15882.64}, {"text": "thank you Miss manget welcome we look forward to your information thank you very much I apologize for having a mask I'm just trying to take care of older", "start": 15882.64, "end": 15889.04}, {"text": "family members um I I did have some RS prepared and I I will get to them but I do think it's important to address in", "start": 15889.04, "end": 15895.439}, {"text": "the moment um some inaccuracies the first one I'll address is that I am a proud sick it's pronounced siik not seik", "start": 15895.439, "end": 15901.84}, {"text": "and if the previous delegates actually had people from my community ons side they'd know how to pronounce our name hello my Daisy sister um bit of cultural", "start": 15901.84, "end": 15909.84}, {"text": "context we're not actually sisters we just kind of talk that way um I would like to actually speak to", "start": 15909.84, "end": 15916.92}, {"text": "everybody on this Council and only everybody on this Council I am not Palestinian like I said I am sick I'm a proud sick I'm not here to convince", "start": 15916.92, "end": 15924.52}, {"text": "anybody of anything um I know my worth as a person I know my value as a person", "start": 15924.52, "end": 15929.64}, {"text": "like we all do and this creates a lot of um consternation and frustration for certain groups and I think you've", "start": 15929.64, "end": 15935.279}, {"text": "already seen an example of it but if you continue to look at facials Expressions while I'm talking you'll probably see more examples of that", "start": 15935.279, "end": 15942.359}, {"text": "I am someone who's advocated for Palestine though since before October of last year and one of the really hopeful", "start": 15942.359, "end": 15948.319}, {"text": "things for me is how people are starting to educate themselves and just being", "start": 15948.319, "end": 15953.52}, {"text": "more open to narratives they maybe not have heard and when I say narrative even", "start": 15953.52, "end": 15958.64}, {"text": "that word is confusing or misleading because it makes it seem like it's fiction but really it's people are getting open to actual facts we had", "start": 15958.64, "end": 15965.84}, {"text": "another delegate that talked about um you know Israel being called an apartheid genocidal State and how this", "start": 15965.84, "end": 15972.399}, {"text": "was really offensive you know I can sit here and counter that but at the end of the day I'm not sure there's a lot of value in that at this late hour for for", "start": 15972.399, "end": 15979.399}, {"text": "any of us and for the council I'd really just invite everybody on the council to really reflect on is the icj the UN the", "start": 15979.399, "end": 15987.92}, {"text": "ICC every single humanitarian organization in the world a growing number of countries around the world the", "start": 15987.92, "end": 15993.279}, {"text": "majority of the global South are they all on the wrong side of History like at", "start": 15993.279, "end": 15999.92}, {"text": "I so at the end of the day I ladies and gentlemen we're going to have we're here talking you know", "start": 15999.92, "end": 16006.479}, {"text": "everybody has asked for peaceful dialogue interrupting each other is not what that looks like so please", "start": 16006.479, "end": 16014.159}, {"text": "everybody thank you um yeah so I'm just here to clear up any confusion because I", "start": 16014.159, "end": 16019.359}, {"text": "think what is out there and you've already heard that our protests are really peaceful so why do we need to introduce a new new bylaw you've heard a", "start": 16019.359, "end": 16025.439}, {"text": "number of things what you haven't heard is kind of some of the reality and you know it is uncomfortable to hear but", "start": 16025.439, "end": 16030.92}, {"text": "guys we can do tough things if we do it together it's funny that these are the words NIS protest are used it's funny", "start": 16030.92, "end": 16036.88}, {"text": "that we talk about having a bubble around certain places not just places of worship but schools Child Care", "start": 16036.88, "end": 16042.72}, {"text": "Facilities Town facilities such a long broad exhaustive list to as pretty much cancel protests anywhere um but I'm here", "start": 16042.72, "end": 16050.199}, {"text": "to clear up any confusion around how Pro Palestinian and and really you know so", "start": 16050.199, "end": 16056.279}, {"text": "much of this is what the media puts in as a term Pro Palestinian pro-israel I'm really I'm I'm Pro human life I'm anti-", "start": 16056.279, "end": 16061.8}, {"text": "genes I'm anti-ar I have lots of Muslim and Jewish friends so it's really not a religious thing", "start": 16061.8, "end": 16067.88}, {"text": "either but I want to sort of call attention to what is actually going on what are we protesting so just so", "start": 16067.88, "end": 16074}, {"text": "everybody here is clear we're not protesting for the extermination of any one person we're trying to call", "start": 16074, "end": 16079.72}, {"text": "attention to something that is going on as we are entitled to do Under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms", "start": 16079.72, "end": 16086.439}, {"text": "I'm just going to read an excerpt um from Susan AB she did a uh presentation at Oxford Union debate and the", "start": 16086.439, "end": 16093.159}, {"text": "resolution was is Israel committing is Israel an aparti State responsible for genocide and by the way it passed 278 to", "start": 16093.159, "end": 16100.199}, {"text": "79 that yes it is she talks about sort of the you know and again by the way I", "start": 16100.199, "end": 16105.359}, {"text": "don't really have enough time to go through all this but I really encourage you and in fact I wouldn't just say the word encourage it is actually incumbent", "start": 16105.359, "end": 16111.279}, {"text": "upon you guys as counselors to educate yourselves especially if we're going to bring forward motions that affect all of", "start": 16111.279, "end": 16117.359}, {"text": "us it's actually incumbent upon you guys to to educate yourselves about the reality and the reality of how isable", "start": 16117.359, "end": 16123.04}, {"text": "was formed I won't go into details but this is what she spoke about I was going to do that what I will do is actually", "start": 16123.04, "end": 16128.92}, {"text": "pick up a couple of pieces of language that are in the motion um and before someone asks I heard the amended a", "start": 16128.92, "end": 16134.72}, {"text": "motion that came up before we all delegated but it came up before we all delegated so I haven't really had a chance to listen and absorb it I'm going", "start": 16134.72, "end": 16141.52}, {"text": "by what was written on the website and the roles and responsibilities document so talks about places of worship schools", "start": 16141.52, "end": 16148.319}, {"text": "Child Care Centers Town facilities as reference places of worship 611 mosques have been decimated in the last year", "start": 16148.319, "end": 16155.04}, {"text": "schools 90% of schools have been completely decimated in the last year I mentioned those stats to talk about the", "start": 16155.04, "end": 16160.92}, {"text": "irony of us trying to create a bubble Zone around these same places that we are calling attention to when we", "start": 16160.92, "end": 16167.119}, {"text": "peacefully protest the other thing I would say too is and and it's it's a shame that um", "start": 16167.119, "end": 16173.8}, {"text": "Chief Tanner has left already speaking personally and I'm not speaking for any one Community I'm just speaking for", "start": 16173.8, "end": 16179.359}, {"text": "myself for the demonstrations I have attended in Oakville um I have found on the whole with one or two exceptions on", "start": 16179.359, "end": 16185.279}, {"text": "the whole hrps to be very respectful and engage with our community well and and that's very", "start": 16185.279, "end": 16190.76}, {"text": "appreciated Chief Tanner on the other hand is on the board of directors of something called Abraham Global Peace", "start": 16190.76, "end": 16195.96}, {"text": "initiative so if you don't know what that is I really encourage you to look that up it is relevant so if you're looking for side to side for the", "start": 16195.96, "end": 16201.96}, {"text": "relevance I can tell you the relevance if you just go to their homepage the first thing you'll see is a picture of someone like me wearing a scarf Brown a", "start": 16201.96, "end": 16209.72}, {"text": "brown woman saying is this our Canada and at this point I really encourage you", "start": 16209.72, "end": 16215.52}, {"text": "guys to just reflect on when you hear that and when you see that this is really frankly rhetorical question how", "start": 16215.52, "end": 16222.279}, {"text": "much do you even sit there and and sort of agree with that view is this our Canada yeah it is our Canada it's people", "start": 16222.279, "end": 16228.439}, {"text": "protesting under their treor of Rights and Freedoms but he sits on the board of that he sits on the board of an", "start": 16228.439, "end": 16234.199}, {"text": "organization that also was for dismantling uh unra founding unra funding excuse me so if you know what", "start": 16234.199, "end": 16240.359}, {"text": "unra is I'm sure you've seen it it's in the news so that for me uh calls into", "start": 16240.359, "end": 16245.76}, {"text": "question his um objectivity his lack of bias and frankly", "start": 16245.76, "end": 16251.76}, {"text": "as an Oakville resident I am actually really concerned about the fact that the chief of police sits on a board like", "start": 16251.76, "end": 16257.56}, {"text": "this and he would be someone as the roles and responsibilities doc laid out hrps would be um leveraged by the town", "start": 16257.56, "end": 16264}, {"text": "and and in order to enforce these kinds of uh these kinds of new bylaws so that's really concerning to me because", "start": 16264, "end": 16269.96}, {"text": "the person that would be the head of the group that's enforcing this is clearly supporting the side that's committing", "start": 16269.96, "end": 16275.56}, {"text": "genocide so I think that needs to be reflected on as well uh what other notes do I have here", "start": 16275.56, "end": 16282}, {"text": "a lot um I think what I'll do is because other people speak a lot more", "start": 16282, "end": 16287.479}, {"text": "eloquently than me and there's a gentleman named moh hams he has an Instagram account he's Palestinian I", "start": 16287.479, "end": 16292.84}, {"text": "really recommend you just follow him some of the stuff he shows is graphic and violent and difficult to watch but", "start": 16292.84, "end": 16298.439}, {"text": "you know what genocide is violent and difficult to watch it's just a uh an amended version", "start": 16298.439, "end": 16305.239}, {"text": "because he swears a lot so I will take all those things out", "start": 16305.239, "end": 16312.439}, {"text": "obviously but he asks what are we watching what are we watching once again", "start": 16312.439, "end": 16320.08}, {"text": "we see a baby bombed by Israel hanging on for dear life Hanging On by a thread brought into a fully collapsed hospital", "start": 16320.08, "end": 16326.119}, {"text": "she had to get her arm amputated she ended up not making it just like the more than 10 children per day getting", "start": 16326.119, "end": 16331.359}, {"text": "their appended is amputated more than 10 per day the most child amputees on the planet what are we watching a beheaded", "start": 16331.359, "end": 16338.96}, {"text": "baby a father holding two children his two till children in his his arms a mother trying to give CPR to her own", "start": 16338.96, "end": 16345.319}, {"text": "dead infant on in the span of 24 hours and this is just a fraction of the children they are targeting children by", "start": 16345.319, "end": 16352.399}, {"text": "the way as a quick uh you know because there's a lot of heckling going on everything that I have said and", "start": 16352.399, "end": 16357.8}, {"text": "everything that you know all of the delegates that are against this B have said you you don't have to take our word", "start": 16357.8, "end": 16362.84}, {"text": "for it and again you shouldn't right look it up everything we're saying is easily verifiable for you guys", "start": 16362.84, "end": 16368.84}, {"text": "yourselves if you choose and care to look for it they are targeting children every day not only are they bombing them", "start": 16368.84, "end": 16375.08}, {"text": "relentlessly with us and Canadian weapons and internationally banned white phosphorus why is internation white phosphorus banned do you know it skins", "start": 16375.08, "end": 16381.319}, {"text": "burn on impact they're just dropping it indiscriminately in Lebanon and in Syria by the way as well look up greater a", "start": 16381.319, "end": 16388.279}, {"text": "zero snipers are specifically shooting children directly in the skull hundreds of children a direct shot to the skull", "start": 16388.279, "end": 16395.48}, {"text": "the bullet is still lodged in their brain doctors and nurses are coming back every single day and screaming bloody murder literally seeing Holocaust", "start": 16395.48, "end": 16402.439}, {"text": "screaming genocide from the rooftops if you won't listen to us at the very least listen to the medical professionals who have lived through this hell over a", "start": 16402.439, "end": 16409}, {"text": "quarter of a million people wiped off the Earth in just over a year 70% women and children 30% Men 2 million people", "start": 16409, "end": 16415.279}, {"text": "being starved 2 million Palestinians being displaced 2 million Palestinians freezing in tents throughout winter", "start": 16415.279, "end": 16420.639}, {"text": "tents that they continuously bomb burning entire families all together", "start": 16420.639, "end": 16426}, {"text": "bombing people who are still attached to IVs burning alive I don't encourage you", "start": 16426, "end": 16431.24}, {"text": "to watch it because it's actually an image that'll never leave me but it is also available online I'm not making this up and you can check it for", "start": 16431.24, "end": 16437.279}, {"text": "yourself they are praying on the defense list while calling it", "start": 16437.279, "end": 16442.359}, {"text": "selfdefense I've totally gone off on track because I'm I'm so enraged I'm enraged that as a brown woman I have to", "start": 16444.279, "end": 16452.119}, {"text": "sit here in front of a panel of mostly white men and try to prove why I should", "start": 16452.119, "end": 16457.6}, {"text": "be allowed to call attention to people who look like me being", "start": 16457.6, "end": 16462.84}, {"text": "killed and the other thing you should really reflect on is watch if they care to get the names of us and and docs us", "start": 16463.039, "end": 16470.199}, {"text": "and you know what comes out in the few following days the other side will not often counter the facts we present", "start": 16470.199, "end": 16476.32}, {"text": "because the what we present are facts it's historical facts it's current reality they just throw at", "start": 16476.32, "end": 16484.52}, {"text": "anti-Semitism so if that's all that you can say if the only response to someone putting facts by every humanitarian", "start": 16484.799, "end": 16491.799}, {"text": "organization in the world every international law body is that they're an anti-semite that should tell you something to wrap it up into what I", "start": 16491.799, "end": 16497.92}, {"text": "think is relevant again this may all seem something in our Oakville bubbles that is not relevant for us that doesn't matter to us that could be but the", "start": 16497.92, "end": 16505.4}, {"text": "council is the one who was trying to put in a bylaw to restrict our right to protest on it so it does become your problem and respectfully does become", "start": 16505.4, "end": 16512.16}, {"text": "something you guys should educate yourselves on any I I feel comfortable speaking for any of the people um that I", "start": 16512.16, "end": 16517.52}, {"text": "came here with today that if you would like to speak with any of us or get more information we are more than happy to", "start": 16517.52, "end": 16522.68}, {"text": "sit with you and do that thank you so much for your time I assume there are no questions thank you very much for your", "start": 16522.68, "end": 16528.08}, {"text": "uh information um Madame", "start": 16528.08, "end": 16533.4}, {"text": "clerk the next allegation is Richard Robertson", "start": 16533.4, "end": 16539.119}, {"text": "welcome Mr Robertson we look forward to your information thank you good evening your", "start": 16542.561, "end": 16547.84}, {"text": "warship and esteemed council members my name is Richard Robertson I'm benth Canada's director of research and", "start": 16547.84, "end": 16553.84}, {"text": "advocacy benab brith is the country's oldest human rights organization in the voice of Kanas Grassroots Jewish", "start": 16553.84, "end": 16559.439}, {"text": "Community our organization which was established in 1875 is dedicated to", "start": 16559.439, "end": 16565}, {"text": "eradicating racism anti-Semitism and hatred in all its forms and championing the rights of the marginalized I'm here", "start": 16565, "end": 16571.92}, {"text": "on behalf of oakville's mainstream Jewish Community to address item 8.6 on tonight's agenda item 8.6 was a report", "start": 16571.92, "end": 16579.959}, {"text": "produced by the municipality's enforcement services and legal departments the report is entitled or", "start": 16579.959, "end": 16585.359}, {"text": "was is still entitled roles and responsibilities in managing protests the impetus for the report was a request", "start": 16585.359, "end": 16591.719}, {"text": "from Council that the requisite Municipal staff report on the potential for an Oakville bylaw to regulate", "start": 16591.719, "end": 16598.24}, {"text": "nuisance protests within a reasonable distance of institutions within the municipality that could be considered", "start": 16598.24, 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"operationalized in a manner that does not unreasonably limit the exercising of Charter rights and freedoms in summary", "start": 16961.36, "end": 16968.44}, {"text": "as no adequate redress presently presently exists to protect vulnerable infrastructure from the worsening threat", "start": 16968.44, "end": 16974.718}, {"text": "posed by nuisance protests in their exists precedent from other jurisdictions that can be replicated to", "start": 16974.718, "end": 16980.798}, {"text": "protect vulnerable infrastructure while at the same time guaranteeing the charter rights well at the same time", "start": 16980.798, "end": 16987.28}, {"text": "guaranteeing that Charter rights are not unreasonably limited benri employers Council to take the necessary steps", "start": 16987.28, "end": 16993.718}, {"text": "which in this case would be endorsing the motion put forward by uh councelor null to create a bylaw that regulates", "start": 16993.718, "end": 17000.04}, {"text": "the occurrence of nuisance protests within the close proximity of vulnerable infrastructure subject to any questions", "start": 17000.04, "end": 17005.798}, {"text": "that includes my delegation thank you thank you Mr Robertson for your information uh", "start": 17005.798, "end": 17012.28}, {"text": "Council uh Madam clerk the next delegate is khed Ali", "start": 17012.28, "end": 17019.84}, {"text": "Mr El", "start": 17024.6, "end": 17027.16}, {"text": "brii uh if you're not Mr Eli we don't really need you to be saying", "start": 17034.12, "end": 17041.28}, {"text": "anything hey uh if you want to stay you have to", "start": 17042.84, "end": 17048.4}, {"text": "behave is that clear so you're on my list to leave if you can't restrain", "start": 17048.4, "end": 17056.202}, {"text": "yourself you yeah", "start": 17056.24, "end": 17061.52}, {"text": "good um Madam clerk you're on my list now", "start": 17061.52, "end": 17068.08}, {"text": "too um Madame clerk would you please call the next uh delegate next delegate", "start": 17068.08, "end": 17073.84}, {"text": "is Abraham beg who is online I believe okay please bring Mr beg into", "start": 17073.84, "end": 17081.798}, {"text": "the meeting hi everyone can you hear me yes", "start": 17081.798, "end": 17089.36}, {"text": "we can thank you very much for joining us you're welcome um I'm here to", "start": 17089.36, "end": 17095.6}, {"text": "delegate on the staff report titled roles and responsibilities in managing", "start": 17095.6, "end": 17100.718}, {"text": "protests I find that this report on the proposed bylaw infringes on my fundamental freedoms guaranteed by the", "start": 17100.718, "end": 17107.84}, {"text": "Charter of Rights and Freedoms I interpret this bylaw as specifically", "start": 17107.84, "end": 17115.04}, {"text": "targeting the anti- genocide community in oakwell who has made its voice heard", "start": 17115.04, "end": 17121.16}, {"text": "through protest after the start of the genocide in kazza by the colonialist oppressive and genocidal Israeli", "start": 17121.16, "end": 17129.28}, {"text": "regime I also find the use of the word nuisance be it a legal term or not", "start": 17129.28, "end": 17135.16}, {"text": "deeply disturbing are you saying that my right", "start": 17135.16, "end": 17141}, {"text": "to protest aive genocide bombing of innocent people destruction of houses", "start": 17141, "end": 17146.798}, {"text": "and shelters raping of men and women killing of children and loss of more", "start": 17146.798, "end": 17152.12}, {"text": "than 180,000 lives is nuisance for", "start": 17152.12, "end": 17157.2}, {"text": "you I am astonished at the level of ignorance and at the height of sense of", "start": 17157.2, "end": 17164.44}, {"text": "entitlement also it is worth mentioning here that the protest by the anti-", "start": 17164.958, "end": 17170.16}, {"text": "genocide community in born and some other places were not meant to harm the sanctity of any", "start": 17170.16, "end": 17176.4}, {"text": "religious institution they were directed at the", "start": 17176.4, "end": 17181.68}, {"text": "illegal real estate and land sales events selling stolen Palestinian lands", "start": 17181.68, "end": 17188.12}, {"text": "including those in the occupied West", "start": 17188.12, "end": 17192.318}, {"text": "Bank even more disturbing is the inclusion of schools in the bubble zones", "start": 17194.36, "end": 17200.52}, {"text": "active ISM provides students with valuable and profound learning experiences and deepens their", "start": 17200.52, "end": 17207.76}, {"text": "understanding of the real world for marginalized communities like", "start": 17207.76, "end": 17213.718}, {"text": "ours protests are essential for making our voices", "start": 17213.718, "end": 17218.76}, {"text": "heard while we only get to vote once every four years protests offer a", "start": 17218.76, "end": 17225.558}, {"text": "crucial opportunity to express our concerns and demands as the need are", "start": 17225.558, "end": 17232.36}, {"text": "es creating noo Zones near places is problematic and creates hurdles towards", "start": 17232.36, "end": 17239.76}, {"text": "our ability to wise our concerns", "start": 17239.76, "end": 17244.32}, {"text": "effectively I would also like to bring to your attention and and as one of my peers did uh did so previously to the", "start": 17245.32, "end": 17253.08}, {"text": "fact that hton Region Police Chief serves on the board of directors of an organization so-called as Abraham glob", "start": 17253.08, "end": 17261.16}, {"text": "peace initiative this organization actively lobbies for Israel and its campaign", "start": 17261.16, "end": 17268.44}, {"text": "against the Palestinians and of course the occupation of", "start": 17268.44, "end": 17273.6}, {"text": "Palestine it asked for the arrest and expulsion of students camping on the", "start": 17273.6, "end": 17279.958}, {"text": "campuses that is on its web page it runs a website called J", "start": 17279.958, "end": 17286.878}, {"text": "force.org which it says motivates Community social action to help defend", "start": 17286.878, "end": 17294.68}, {"text": "Israel I have two questions before this Council how a sitting and serving police", "start": 17294.68, "end": 17302.878}, {"text": "chief can serve on the board of directors of a partisan organization", "start": 17302.878, "end": 17308.28}, {"text": "lobbying for a foreign country number one number two how can he be expected to", "start": 17308.28, "end": 17315.24}, {"text": "remain nonpartisan and neutral in the discharge of his duties", "start": 17315.24, "end": 17321.842}, {"text": "all this with additional powers to the police under this bylaw to make", "start": 17322.28, "end": 17327.36}, {"text": "interpretations of their own makes myself and other members of my community", "start": 17327.36, "end": 17333.36}, {"text": "and the larger anti-genocide Community extremely worried it also serves to create an", "start": 17333.36, "end": 17340.76}, {"text": "environment of fear among the community members advocating against the genocide being committed by", "start": 17340.76, "end": 17348.48}, {"text": "Israel in addition to this the chair of the hton police board", "start": 17348.558, "end": 17354.718}, {"text": "provided live updates and who in fact is sitting in this meeting as well on the work on this", "start": 17354.718, "end": 17361.32}, {"text": "bylaw to his followers on social media again an attempt to instill fear among", "start": 17361.32, "end": 17368.2}, {"text": "people and I see you nodding your head uh not nodding but like um um declining", "start": 17368.2, "end": 17373.958}, {"text": "what I'm saying but I can share the evidence and and and the cites of your", "start": 17373.958, "end": 17379.2}, {"text": "posts on social media as well I will leave you one uh with one comment", "start": 17379.2, "end": 17384.878}, {"text": "on social media regarding the bubble bylaw and I quote I thought I was about to read", "start": 17384.878, "end": 17391.48}, {"text": "There were instructions coming on when and where you can blow bubbles and I would not have been", "start": 17391.48, "end": 17398.44}, {"text": "surprised unquote this may sound funny but this is", "start": 17398.44, "end": 17404.32}, {"text": "the new this is the new reality that we live in in Oak especially since the", "start": 17404.32, "end": 17409.92}, {"text": "historic gen 29 2024 council meeting where member of the council in a strong", "start": 17409.92, "end": 17415.76}, {"text": "men and dictator likee manner declared the agenda item on Palestine as out of order leaving the attendees in utter", "start": 17415.76, "end": 17424.16}, {"text": "shock and disbelief since then we have seen the rights and freedoms of the members of the anti- genocide Community", "start": 17424.16, "end": 17431.52}, {"text": "being suppressed regularly I would urge this counil to please not consider this", "start": 17431.52, "end": 17437.28}, {"text": "bylaw thank you if you have any questions I'm here thank you very much for bringing your information", "start": 17437.28, "end": 17443.878}, {"text": "sir you're wel Madam clerk the next delegation next delegation is a tiff", "start": 17443.878, "end": 17450.52}, {"text": "Malik welcome Mr Malik Council looks forward to your information thank you mayor thank you", "start": 17450.52, "end": 17456.718}, {"text": "Council good evening um a lot of things have already been said you may hear me", "start": 17456.718, "end": 17462.08}, {"text": "say them again Canada has a proud history of peaceful protest U one that's shaped by the identity of uh uh free", "start": 17462.08, "end": 17469.36}, {"text": "expression and civil liberty I want to go back to an example an early example from 1919 where we saw where", "start": 17469.36, "end": 17477.16}, {"text": "where the Winnipeg general strike occurred we saw thousands of workers protest against economic inequality", "start": 17477.16, "end": 17483.68}, {"text": "exploitation to the modern day protest uh uh surrounding issues like uh indigenous peoples uh we heard about", "start": 17483.68, "end": 17490.76}, {"text": "climate change protests that happened here in Oakville uh International conflicts like we've been hearing from", "start": 17490.76, "end": 17496.558}, {"text": "many of the delegates around Palestine and I mean there's other issues as well there Sudan and", "start": 17496.558, "end": 17503.558}, {"text": "Congo um Canadians have a long have long use", "start": 17503.558, "end": 17508.878}, {"text": "the streets as a platform to voice descent fight for justice and push for change these movements both past and", "start": 17508.878, "end": 17514.878}, {"text": "present have been essential to progress of our nation in times of global crisis such as", "start": 17514.878, "end": 17521.44}, {"text": "the current one in Palestine which is probably the one that's spoken most of uh we have seen individuals and groups", "start": 17521.44, "end": 17527.08}, {"text": "across Canada come together in peaceful protests I'm I've been there I've been to now it's probably in the hundreds of", "start": 17527.08, "end": 17533.6}, {"text": "protests I've been protesting since I was 16 in in you know the second in uh", "start": 17533.6, "end": 17540}, {"text": "2020 2018 in 2014 in 2021 and now since", "start": 17540, "end": 17545.6}, {"text": "2023 I've marched on these streets I've marched in downtown I've been a part of", "start": 17545.6, "end": 17551.04}, {"text": "the movement that has advocated and brought attention and has done so and some of the members are here today where", "start": 17551.04, "end": 17558.08}, {"text": "we've built constructive relationship with religious groups on not simply on", "start": 17558.08, "end": 17563.718}, {"text": "the basis of of religion or Creed but because there's there's a desire to talk about this not simply among Palestinian", "start": 17563.718, "end": 17570.638}, {"text": "allies and Arabs and Muslims but of people of other Faith groups and that dialogue is happening it may not come", "start": 17570.638, "end": 17576.48}, {"text": "forward and be presented here today but it's happening and it's happening", "start": 17576.48, "end": 17581.76}, {"text": "peacefully however the proposal to create protest bubble Zones near locations such as places of worship schools and Hospital risk turning a", "start": 17581.76, "end": 17589.04}, {"text": "peaceful protest into Criminal uh simply for exercising their fundamental right this would set a", "start": 17589.04, "end": 17594.44}, {"text": "dangerous precedent where citizens discontent with government policies or in support of a cause they believe in", "start": 17594.44, "end": 17600.558}, {"text": "are driven to the a fringe of society rather encouraged to engage in public discourse and there are protests that", "start": 17600.558, "end": 17606.2}, {"text": "have happened here in Oakville that I personally disagree with I don't have an opinion on them I don't agree with them", "start": 17606.2, "end": 17612.958}, {"text": "but to be able to protest outside of a school or an institution is something", "start": 17612.958, "end": 17618.12}, {"text": "that should be allowed as opposed to restricted by creating a bubble Zone around it as long as it meets the", "start": 17618.12, "end": 17623.6}, {"text": "criteria set out under the Constitution under uh the uh laws that exist exist", "start": 17623.6, "end": 17629.24}, {"text": "around and I'm putting in quotations because it's not the name of the law but hate laws that exist and are used by um", "start": 17629.24, "end": 17636.718}, {"text": "the police to interpret on the go off in times which is a difficult task I acknowledge to prevent such hate from", "start": 17636.718, "end": 17644.48}, {"text": "occurring it's crucial to recognize that the right to protest does not automatically equate equate to a violent", "start": 17644.48, "end": 17651.04}, {"text": "or disruptive behavior Canada's legal framework as I said already provides numerous safeguards to ensure protests", "start": 17651.04, "end": 17656.958}, {"text": "uh do not devolve into unlawful conduct uh we know of the criminal code and I as I mentioned there is a SE section on", "start": 17656.958, "end": 17663.92}, {"text": "hate there's there is also a section on mischief and that's where um one of my", "start": 17663.92, "end": 17669.68}, {"text": "concerns arises is around mischief and how the interpretation of Mischief may occur if a vague uh uh definition of", "start": 17669.68, "end": 17677.68}, {"text": "nuisance is applied I shouldn't say vague but a very broad definition of nuisance is applied when uh at a protest", "start": 17677.68, "end": 17685.12}, {"text": "protesting outside an institution or a a place of worship or wherever it may be", "start": 17685.12, "end": 17690.76}, {"text": "outside Town Hall how is the Mischief interpreted is it considered a nuisance", "start": 17690.76, "end": 17697.16}, {"text": "can that criminal charge then be applied under under from the criminal code which is under Section 430 can that then be", "start": 17697.16, "end": 17704.04}, {"text": "applied against the the individuals that are protesting that's a question", "start": 17704.04, "end": 17710.2}, {"text": "one of the other questions that uh uh came to mind as I was reading uh uh the the proposal or rather the report was", "start": 17710.958, "end": 17718.68}, {"text": "how are moving protests how will moving protest be considered um if for example", "start": 17718.68, "end": 17723.878}, {"text": "there is a protest downtown on Lakeshore and it is moving through a space of like", "start": 17723.878, "end": 17729.718}, {"text": "let's say for example uh from Allen Street to uh to", "start": 17729.718, "end": 17735.16}, {"text": "the mouth of the of the lake um where 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the attack of against a particular", "start": 17916.878, "end": 17923}, {"text": "religion then I'm against that there shouldn't there should be no reason to hate or cause a division based upon upon", "start": 17923, "end": 17932.958}, {"text": "a particular Faith group but if it's a political issue and I'm a Muslim if illegal properties were being sold in a", "start": 17932.958, "end": 17940.24}, {"text": "mosque that I attend here in Oakville may it be on Mor like they were talking about earlier today or on tfer the", "start": 17940.24, "end": 17946.48}, {"text": "larger mosque on tfer and burnhamthorp I would be outside the mosque protesting against the sale", "start": 17946.48, "end": 17952.6}, {"text": "of illegal properties I would be outside the mosque protesting and demonstrating", "start": 17952.6, "end": 17957.878}, {"text": "if the if the mosque and the administration allowed someone to come in to take a divisive hateful stance", "start": 17957.878, "end": 17965.28}, {"text": "against another group it's a political position and not one of hate if it's one", "start": 17965.28, "end": 17970.4}, {"text": "of hate then it should be interpreted as such and I think the police have the pro the powers to interpret it based upon", "start": 17970.4, "end": 17975.6}, {"text": "the laws that exist thank you thank you very much for for your information and uh some of which I found", "start": 17975.6, "end": 17983.16}, {"text": "very valuable thank you madam clerk the next delegation next delegation is saana", "start": 17983.16, "end": 17989.52}, {"text": "Zena lab", "start": 17989.52, "end": 17992.556}, {"text": "deine what's the", "start": 17995.44, "end": 17998.876}, {"text": "question good", "start": 18000.638, "end": 18003.84}, {"text": "evening welcome I'm sorry I was distracted with a side question from a", "start": 18005.718, "end": 18010.76}, {"text": "counselor problem you're welcome and we look forward to your information thank you so much it has come to my attention", "start": 18010.76, "end": 18016.878}, {"text": "that the city of folville is trying to ban protests in places of worship schools Town facilities Child Care", "start": 18016.878, "end": 18023.958}, {"text": "Centers and I'm guessing it's going to be lots of other places too if this bylaw will", "start": 18023.958, "end": 18031.556}, {"text": "continue me as a student lots of other students and people for the last year", "start": 18032.32, "end": 18038.24}, {"text": "and 3 months we have been out protesting weekly we've been peacefully protesting", "start": 18038.24, "end": 18044.76}, {"text": "and um and if not weekly then more than once a", "start": 18044.76, "end": 18050.958}, {"text": "week Canada like every time we go protests we know that Canada guarantees", "start": 18051.68, "end": 18057.52}, {"text": "the right of freedom of speech so I'm going to open an audio I", "start": 18057.52, "end": 18063.32}, {"text": "want you to please uh listen to it for just a couple of seconds", "start": 18063.32, "end": 18071.48}, {"text": "so as you just heard these are some voices in Gazza and these aren't even the worst these voices are in schools", "start": 18088.44, "end": 18096}, {"text": "which people take as shelters because their homes were bombed and we are trying to be their voice yet", "start": 18096, "end": 18103.32}, {"text": "you are censoring us these voices that you just heard they", "start": 18103.32, "end": 18108.84}, {"text": "aren't the worst one of many reasons which we protest is for this for people dying", "start": 18108.84, "end": 18116.6}, {"text": "people under oppression and the world sits and watchs", "start": 18116.6, "end": 18122.878}, {"text": "yet in your case sitting and watching is amazing you are not even just sitting", "start": 18122.878, "end": 18128.48}, {"text": "and watching you're sitting and watching and you are censoring and banning us who are trying to actually make a", "start": 18128.48, "end": 18136.6}, {"text": "difference probably many people here in Prior of hearing this sound they are", "start": 18139.12, "end": 18145.558}, {"text": "going to get emotional or they're going to have bad feelings because many people", "start": 18145.558, "end": 18151.84}, {"text": "here have experienced Wars", "start": 18151.84, "end": 18156}, {"text": "before and these people they they've come to this country because of the wars they experienced because of other things", "start": 18157.638, "end": 18164}, {"text": "that happened to this country which can include me and when we come to this country", "start": 18164, "end": 18170.52}, {"text": "people they see us they see our race they see our ethnicity they see see", "start": 18170.52, "end": 18175.92}, {"text": "things as simple as this that I'm wearing on my head here they call us terrorists they tell us why are you", "start": 18175.92, "end": 18182}, {"text": "coming to this country they tell us to go back to our our country sorry but our countries unfortunately", "start": 18182, "end": 18189.798}, {"text": "they aren't safe because of the same agenda the West rules in the Middle", "start": 18189.798, "end": 18195.48}, {"text": "East even though I'm not Palestinian I wish everyone in this", "start": 18195.48, "end": 18200.84}, {"text": "country to practice the freedom of speech and feel respect here in our", "start": 18200.84, "end": 18206.04}, {"text": "country because Canada of course every time people hear Canada quote unquote", "start": 18206.04, "end": 18212.08}, {"text": "they think freedom and rights of speech yet how do you expect us to do it", "start": 18212.08, "end": 18219.798}, {"text": "when you won't even listen to us and you will censor us and ban us", "start": 18219.798, "end": 18225.84}, {"text": "instead we have a right to protest to free the oppressed around the world and to make a great candada by respecting", "start": 18225.84, "end": 18234.52}, {"text": "Humanity either respect us or don't censor and ban us for doing things that", "start": 18234.52, "end": 18240.24}, {"text": "we are trying to make this world a better place thank you thank you very much for your message", "start": 18240.24, "end": 18246.84}, {"text": "thank you um Council that ends the registered delegations I'm confining the question", "start": 18246.84, "end": 18253.36}, {"text": "to table uh let the discussion", "start": 18253.36, "end": 18258.958}, {"text": "begin or Not councelor N thank you wor", "start": 18259.76, "end": 18266.76}, {"text": "ship um I just want to I want to make a couple points that are I think really important to clarify here and just put", "start": 18266.76, "end": 18272.12}, {"text": "us back on an even Keel there's nothing that we're proposing tonight that will in any way abgate the chart of Rights", "start": 18272.12, "end": 18278.798}, {"text": "and fre just ask because it's restricted to table that you address us sorry I'll look straight", "start": 18278.798, "end": 18284.958}, {"text": "at you I know as I was saying there is nothing in", "start": 18284.958, "end": 18292}, {"text": "this proposal this evening that directs staff to abgate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms there's nothing in this", "start": 18292, "end": 18298.48}, {"text": "proposal tonight or I expect that will come from staff that will in any way censor the rights of people to", "start": 18298.48, "end": 18306.16}, {"text": "peacefully protest that's not the intention that's not the and nobody around this table would ever consider", "start": 18306.16, "end": 18312.36}, {"text": "that as being appropriate the there's been so many", "start": 18312.36, "end": 18317.44}, {"text": "things said tonight concerns about about the level of protest in Oakville and the fact the police were here and said there", "start": 18317.44, "end": 18323.24}, {"text": "was no problem there's 42 protests there's no problem I wanted to make sure and I double checked with the the presenter and he said there were 40 prot", "start": 18323.24, "end": 18330.28}, {"text": "42 protests with minimal problems there were problems but they weren't significant enough to Warrant criminal charges but they were managed by The", "start": 18330.28, "end": 18336.48}, {"text": "Police Service um so with Pro protests come challenges and for the most part", "start": 18336.48, "end": 18342.68}, {"text": "the vast majority of protests in this town have been peaceful appropriate and", "start": 18342.68, "end": 18349.2}, {"text": "frankly I I support all of them the issue really has to do with the fact that that certain protests get in the", "start": 18349.2, "end": 18356.12}, {"text": "way of a constitutional right to the freedom for freedom of worship freedom of Education Etc and that is what we're", "start": 18356.12, "end": 18363.28}, {"text": "trying to deal with here people that are getting in the face whether it's restricting access whether it is", "start": 18363.28, "end": 18368.718}, {"text": "intimidating people and I I I take every the word here when they say that I've been protesting here", "start": 18368.718, "end": 18375.24}, {"text": "and there you don't have to shake your head just listen to me maybe you'll learned something sorry there's nothing there there's", "start": 18375.24, "end": 18382.36}, {"text": "nothing to suggest anybody here is engaged in that but these things do happen we've seen incidents in other", "start": 18382.36, "end": 18388.638}, {"text": "cultural groups as well in other religions in Bramton for example which are one of the things that that that", "start": 18388.638, "end": 18393.92}, {"text": "basically led to the the creation of that bubble bylaw in Bramton it's this isn't this isn't about Syria versus", "start": 18393.92, "end": 18399.958}, {"text": "Israel this isn't about this isn't about one religion against another this is about respecting people's rights for", "start": 18399.958, "end": 18405.878}, {"text": "freedom of worship free of Education there's nothing in this BW proposal tonight or this or this request to staff", "start": 18405.878, "end": 18412.52}, {"text": "that would any way hamper the rights of students to protest peacefully in their institution", "start": 18412.52, "end": 18419.44}, {"text": "nothing so I I just want to just bring everybody's expectations down here we're", "start": 18419.44, "end": 18424.718}, {"text": "sending this to staff to come up with a bylaw that will go out for consultation", "start": 18424.718, "end": 18429.76}, {"text": "that will give everybody an opportunity to have a look at what what does nuisance mean what kind of restrictions are we", "start": 18429.76, "end": 18436.638}, {"text": "looking at what institutions would be actually subject to this this so-called bubble there's none of that is clear", "start": 18436.638, "end": 18443.48}, {"text": "here and we're going to spend time staff by we I mean staff are going to spend time researching this and coming back", "start": 18443.48, "end": 18449.28}, {"text": "with something that is defensible legal and respects the rights of every citizen of this country and this town to express", "start": 18449.28, "end": 18456.4}, {"text": "themselves peacefully and respectfully to put their points of view across I just want to make a couple", "start": 18456.4, "end": 18463.16}, {"text": "quick comments first of all a bit of a point of privilege I may have made zero social media posts about this I've been", "start": 18463.16, "end": 18468.558}, {"text": "very respectful and I've avoided doing that because I'm very sensitive to both", "start": 18468.558, "end": 18473.68}, {"text": "sides of this thing there is not a single social media post about me posting about a bubble by so I just want to clarify that", "start": 18473.68, "end": 18480.638}, {"text": "um I also want to this there was a comment that we're we're being encouraged to educate ourselves on this", "start": 18480.638, "end": 18486.08}, {"text": "I mean I'm pretty personally I'm pretty educated on what's happening around the world and this particular the particular", "start": 18486.08, "end": 18491.638}, {"text": "examples are ging tonight but this isn't about this isn't about the genocide this isn't about Israel versus uh Hamas or", "start": 18491.638, "end": 18499.44}, {"text": "anything like that this is simply about guaranteeing the rights of freedom of worship freedom of Education um for our", "start": 18499.44, "end": 18507.48}, {"text": "citizens I also just want to on a bit of a on behalf of the police chief I just want to express a bit of a it's an", "start": 18507.48, "end": 18512.68}, {"text": "unfair shot to take shots at the Poli the police chief yes oh sorry it's UNF", "start": 18512.68, "end": 18519.48}, {"text": "Fair your worship to take shots at the police chief because of his uh organizational involvements and I I", "start": 18519.48, "end": 18524.84}, {"text": "don't know as the chair of the board you know what the specific uh polity of these organizations are but I do know", "start": 18524.84, "end": 18531.16}, {"text": "that he's a he's a good man he doesn't deserve to be attacked without being able to defend himself in this Council so I want to say that I also want to", "start": 18531.16, "end": 18537.84}, {"text": "mention one gentleman was referring to these would be criminal actions nothing in this is Criminal this is all", "start": 18537.84, "end": 18543.04}, {"text": "municiple bylaw so nothing is Criminal and then the comment as well about the fact that the police said they didn't", "start": 18543.04, "end": 18549}, {"text": "want this they have not said that okay the the the police and also that police have sufficient grounds to manage these", "start": 18549, "end": 18555.44}, {"text": "things they have sufficient grounds to deal with things when it when it treads on criminality and the goal of this is", "start": 18555.44, "end": 18561.638}, {"text": "to avoid that it's to avoid getting to the point of criminality it's to avoid emotions to get to the point where you", "start": 18561.638, "end": 18567.958}, {"text": "have a flash point and you have somebody brandishing weapons as we've seen in Brampton in that particular uh in that", "start": 18567.958, "end": 18574.44}, {"text": "particular issue it's important to understand that this is not somehow", "start": 18574.44, "end": 18580.4}, {"text": "a plot by this Council or by myself and Natalia as the Mover and seconder to in any way restrict the ability of people", "start": 18580.4, "end": 18588}, {"text": "to express their viewpoints and educate the community and get that point across so I just want to make those things very", "start": 18588, "end": 18593.52}, {"text": "very clear um I'm sorry I'm I'm a little emotional over this because it's it's it's an important issue to me and I just", "start": 18593.52, "end": 18600.24}, {"text": "I really don't want to be in a position where this is an issue again of us", "start": 18600.24, "end": 18605.718}, {"text": "trying to suppress Syrian points of view and that's not the case at all uh councelor no sorry Palestinians I say", "start": 18605.718, "end": 18612.68}, {"text": "Syrian your worship because I was I was the first I was a counselor that filled", "start": 18612.68, "end": 18618.878}, {"text": "that Auditorium that that Atrium when the Syrian crisis happened and that's been in my head the whole time getting", "start": 18618.878, "end": 18625.36}, {"text": "Oakville residents to Billet Syrian refugees and that was so that's why it", "start": 18625.36, "end": 18630.6}, {"text": "was in my head so I apologize I did mean thank you councelor for addressing I'll thank you to please be", "start": 18630.6, "end": 18639.798}, {"text": "behave we are not engaging in a discussion with you you've had your your say council is now debating what it's", "start": 18639.798, "end": 18647.16}, {"text": "going to do I I I cannot let you continue to", "start": 18647.16, "end": 18652.52}, {"text": "interrupt uh councelor I wanted to thank you for directing your remarks to the chair which is the proper procedure", "start": 18652.52, "end": 18660.12}, {"text": "under Robert's Rules and I'll look for any other uh", "start": 18660.12, "end": 18665.716}, {"text": "discussion councelor haset deal thank you through you mayor Burton um so", "start": 18666.12, "end": 18673.798}, {"text": "I will say to the public thank you for your comments uh your um freedom of", "start": 18673.798, "end": 18680.08}, {"text": "expression the opportunity to learn I appreciated it um um my questions are", "start": 18680.08, "end": 18686.84}, {"text": "for legal counsel um we we had in our package a letter written by the Canadian", "start": 18686.84, "end": 18693.04}, {"text": "civil liberties Association and it had some information in it uh in regards ards to the", "start": 18693.04, "end": 18700.878}, {"text": "important distinction of reasonable limits and what is demonstratively Justified and they actually gave some", "start": 18700.878, "end": 18708.4}, {"text": "some excellent advice about how how careful we must craft something in order", "start": 18708.4, "end": 18714.2}, {"text": "to ensure that we do not uh choose one Freedom over another um and so um I", "start": 18714.2, "end": 18722.52}, {"text": "appreciated councelor nl's comments in regards to um the support legal gave on", "start": 18722.52, "end": 18728.92}, {"text": "on the drafting um so I have a few questions one is um will the will this the", "start": 18728.92, "end": 18738.24}, {"text": "paragraph that says clear definition also speak to definitions of what what", "start": 18738.24, "end": 18743.52}, {"text": "is meant by vulnerable social", "start": 18743.52, "end": 18747.48}, {"text": "infrastructure uh through you uh mayor Burton uh we're familiar with the um", "start": 18749.798, "end": 18755.558}, {"text": "correspondence the counselor is referring to we've reviewed it care and will weigh everything that's in the", "start": 18755.558, "end": 18761.76}, {"text": "letter in the course of drafting a bylaw per council's direction to bring back", "start": 18761.76, "end": 18767.36}, {"text": "for your consideration and also subject to public consultation so do we need to add anything to this uh this motion um", "start": 18767.36, "end": 18778.24}, {"text": "that it that you found in the Canadian civil liberties association's uh memo um", "start": 18778.24, "end": 18784.718}, {"text": "that may may not have made it into this motion um uh through you uh mayor Burton", "start": 18784.718, "end": 18791.798}, {"text": "I would suggest that's not necessary we're very familiar with what's in that uh letter and we're going to uh weigh", "start": 18791.798, "end": 18798.84}, {"text": "the the viewpoints as I say in bringing back a draft for your consideration okay um uh mayor Burton my", "start": 18798.84, "end": 18807.28}, {"text": "comments are that um I really the phrase the sanctity of places of worship is", "start": 18807.28, "end": 18814.52}, {"text": "important as is the freedom of expression and as I thought about this", "start": 18814.52, "end": 18820.558}, {"text": "weekend what uh was in front of us I thought about the whole objective of", "start": 18820.558, "end": 18826.638}, {"text": "going to a place of worship is a sense of peace and community and an ability to", "start": 18826.638, "end": 18833.4}, {"text": "uh to be with those that you are comfortable with um and if we achieve a", "start": 18833.4, "end": 18841}, {"text": "bylaw that does not take away someone's fundamental freedoms but enables them to", "start": 18841, "end": 18848.48}, {"text": "peacefully no matter what they believe no matter who they pray to the", "start": 18848.48, "end": 18854.4}, {"text": "opportunity um to have freedom of a religion and that sense of Peace in", "start": 18854.4, "end": 18859.92}, {"text": "their place of worship then I think we have to explore this I trust that staff will explore it carefully um that we", "start": 18859.92, "end": 18868.16}, {"text": "will honor and respect the charter um for the values that it has put into our", "start": 18868.16, "end": 18874.92}, {"text": "our country um and that we uh we will make make sure that we do not choose one", "start": 18874.92, "end": 18882.24}, {"text": "over the other but rather we choose a balance that can be live up to those reasonable limits um", "start": 18882.24, "end": 18889.84}, {"text": "that are demonstrably Justified um and so with that I will support the motion", "start": 18889.84, "end": 18896.68}, {"text": "understanding there's a long way to go in terms of research Clarity um and an", "start": 18896.68, "end": 18903.6}, {"text": "opportunity to perhaps open our minds to ensuring that people can have that", "start": 18903.6, "end": 18910.48}, {"text": "moment to pray in a way that doesn't create pain thank you thank you", "start": 18910.48, "end": 18918.08}, {"text": "counselor um counselor uh Longo thank you your", "start": 18918.08, "end": 18923.76}, {"text": "worship just a quick question to staff if uh we are to proceed with the motion", "start": 18923.76, "end": 18929.32}, {"text": "what would be the timing for coming back with uh with a potential uh bylaw draft bylaw for", "start": 18929.32, "end": 18937.08}, {"text": "public consultation and review by ourselves uh through you uh mayor Burton", "start": 18937.08, "end": 18943.12}, {"text": "we understand uh the counselor's motion to request the bylaw in the first", "start": 18943.12, "end": 18948.16}, {"text": "quarter of 2025 so we're working to that time frame okay thank", "start": 18948.16, "end": 18954.2}, {"text": "you all right um anyone else um not seeing anyone else", "start": 18954.638, "end": 18963.878}, {"text": "um I want to say that um uh I'm going to support this MO", "start": 18963.878, "end": 18969.48}, {"text": "motion um in order to see what we get uh I don't want us if what we get is", "start": 18969.48, "end": 18978.718}, {"text": "true to the spirit of the motion then uh then I may even be able to support the", "start": 18978.718, "end": 18984.958}, {"text": "bylaw uh I do note that the Von bylaw has not prevented a protest yet in fact", "start": 18984.958, "end": 18990.558}, {"text": "the December 9th protest went ahead uh whatever its circumstances were and um", "start": 18990.558, "end": 18999.04}, {"text": "I um I believe that uh the freedom to worship and the freedom of uh the", "start": 18999.04, "end": 19006.36}, {"text": "freedom to protest the freedom to peacefully assemble the the freedom to express the freedom of expression these", "start": 19006.36, "end": 19013.4}, {"text": "are vital and important to Canada uh the uh the uh the spirit with which I", "start": 19013.4, "end": 19020.798}, {"text": "support this is that it's going to have to pass a high bar to get my support uh", "start": 19020.798, "end": 19026.36}, {"text": "with that I'll ask if there's any member of council who opposes the motion I'm going to ask for all right Madame clerk", "start": 19026.36, "end": 19033.24}, {"text": "would you please uh call the role again you'll say yes or", "start": 19033.24, "end": 19041}, {"text": "no mayor Burton yes councelor Adams yes", "start": 19041, "end": 19047.24}, {"text": "councelor Chisum yes councelor dck yes councelor Elgar yes counc", "start": 19047.24, "end": 19054.44}, {"text": "kiddings yes councelor Grant yes councelor h Theo yes councelor no yes", "start": 19054.44, "end": 19061.718}, {"text": "councelor L yes councelor Longo yes councelor MCN", "start": 19061.718, "end": 19068.4}, {"text": "yes councelor Nanda yes councelor romea yes and councelor Shay", "start": 19068.4, "end": 19075.558}, {"text": "yes motion passes thank you", "start": 19075.558, "end": 19080.638}, {"text": "um Council", "start": 19080.638, "end": 19085.68}, {"text": "the give me a second while I look for the Stray piece of paper that I've", "start": 19087.36, "end": 19093.558}, {"text": "misplaced", "start": 19108.76, "end": 19111.76}, {"text": "it's all right Council you have your uh", "start": 19114.52, "end": 19119.92}, {"text": "information items that were circulated electronically and listed in the agenda", "start": 19119.92, "end": 19127.798}, {"text": "um you've uh you've got a notice of motion and listed in the agenda from uh", "start": 19127.878, "end": 19135.24}, {"text": "uh councila and councelor MCN for the next uh council", "start": 19135.24, "end": 19140.36}, {"text": "meeting um there's a notice of motion uh presented this evening uh by councelor", "start": 19140.36, "end": 19148.24}, {"text": "HL and councelor Giddings concerning the Midtown Toc development proposal and", "start": 19148.24, "end": 19153.798}, {"text": "official plan Amendment may I would based on the emails I'm starting to", "start": 19153.798, "end": 19159.52}, {"text": "receive can we deal with it based on the emails I've received", "start": 19159.52, "end": 19164.68}, {"text": "from some people I would appreciate if we could deal with this tonight because I think it's a matter that that's important for yourself and also for all", "start": 19164.68, "end": 19171.76}, {"text": "the members of council that we have not said things that are being pre pre being", "start": 19171.76, "end": 19176.92}, {"text": "sent out from the premier apparent counselor uh I am prepared to deal with", "start": 19176.92, "end": 19185.24}, {"text": "uh that concern uh but I don't need this motion dealt with tonight to do that I'm", "start": 19185.24, "end": 19191.32}, {"text": "about to deal with that but we as Council haven't had a chance to voice that we you know something's gone wrong", "start": 19191.32, "end": 19197.878}, {"text": "here counselor I um I believe that some", "start": 19197.878, "end": 19203.68}, {"text": "of this motion should have the council should have the benefit of qualifying", "start": 19203.68, "end": 19209.08}, {"text": "confidential legal advice before adopting the motion and and for that reason I would oppose waving the", "start": 19209.08, "end": 19216.4}, {"text": "procedure bylaw at this time I will now I mean and and uh a motion to wave it is", "start": 19216.4, "end": 19223.68}, {"text": "in order oh okay I I will I will I will ask to wave it because I I don't like", "start": 19223.68, "end": 19228.76}, {"text": "what I'm hearing so I think we as a council should there's nothing from what I can see and I've printed it off and", "start": 19228.76, "end": 19234.44}, {"text": "I've gone through it I can't see anything that could could hurt anyone but by doing this we do represent", "start": 19234.44, "end": 19240.48}, {"text": "Oakville and uh anyway um I I would so move that we wave procedure um and the", "start": 19240.48, "end": 19247.16}, {"text": "second is councelor dck yes okay um all those in favor of", "start": 19247.16, "end": 19254.4}, {"text": "the motion to wave um I guess we need a recorded vote to do this efficiently um", "start": 19254.4, "end": 19261.04}, {"text": "Madam clerk would you call the", "start": 19261.04, "end": 19264.2}, {"text": "role uh mayor Burton no councelor Adams no councilor Chisum", "start": 19267.28, "end": 19275.558}, {"text": "yes councelor DK yes councelor algar yes", "start": 19275.558, "end": 19282.08}, {"text": "councelor Giddings yes councelor Grant no councelor h Theo yes councelor n", "start": 19282.08, "end": 19291.68}, {"text": "no councelor l no councelor Longo no", "start": 19291.68, "end": 19300.52}, {"text": "councelor MCN yes councelor", "start": 19300.558, "end": 19305.76}, {"text": "Nanda no councelor Oma uh", "start": 19305.76, "end": 19311.958}, {"text": "yes and councelor shei no six seven", "start": 19311.958, "end": 19320.6}, {"text": "eight eight for no um there's a vote eight against seven", "start": 19320.6, "end": 19329.16}, {"text": "seven um so the it does not carry thank you", "start": 19329.16, "end": 19335.558}, {"text": "um so Council I have a an announcement to make today I learned the premier has", "start": 19335.558, "end": 19345}, {"text": "texted individuals that quote the mayor endorsed the TOC plan", "start": 19345, "end": 19352.2}, {"text": "unquote apparently he also texted to someone that the mayor hands out the", "start": 19352.2, "end": 19359.558}, {"text": "permits unquote to be charitable I'd say my", "start": 19359.558, "end": 19365.04}, {"text": "preference for the to process rather than the Olt process has", "start": 19365.04, "end": 19371.638}, {"text": "been misinterpreted and misstated by the premier my role in permits has been", "start": 19371.638, "end": 19380.4}, {"text": "completely incorrectly described that is not a power that any mayor", "start": 19380.4, "end": 19386.16}, {"text": "has I have not endorsed any Toc plan the to plan currently before the", "start": 19386.16, "end": 19394.04}, {"text": "public appears to be the first iteration of at least two or three iterations that", "start": 19394.04, "end": 19400.44}, {"text": "public consultation feedback should be informing as I understand the TOC", "start": 19400.44, "end": 19407.04}, {"text": "process Council may be asked to endorse a final version from the TOC process for", "start": 19407.04, "end": 19413.84}, {"text": "that reason alone it is premature to consider endorsing the present team P", "start": 19413.84, "end": 19418.958}, {"text": "proposal or quote unquote plan and that's why I have made no commitments to", "start": 19418.958, "end": 19424.958}, {"text": "the province or District I also can assure the public that Council has made no endorsement of", "start": 19424.958, "end": 19432.08}, {"text": "the TOC uh proposal or plan I continue to believe as I said in", "start": 19432.08, "end": 19439.638}, {"text": "my October 22nd stateof the toown speech in this chamber that the TOC process is", "start": 19439.638, "end": 19446.08}, {"text": "a better alternative than the Olt process process which is where the district applications are and would", "start": 19446.08, "end": 19453.32}, {"text": "remain without the TOC process thank you very much I'd like to", "start": 19453.32, "end": 19460.52}, {"text": "uh make my second announcement now councelor has the deal I see your hand", "start": 19460.52, "end": 19465.718}, {"text": "though mayor Burton I understand that upon notice of motion it can be read into the record may I do so please read", "start": 19465.718, "end": 19472.638}, {"text": "it thank you uh this is a notice a motion from uh myself and councelor", "start": 19472.638, "end": 19477.92}, {"text": "Giddings and it is titled Midtown tosu development proposal and official plan", "start": 19477.92, "end": 19483.16}, {"text": "Amendment Opa whereas Town Council and staff have conducted extensive assessments and public engagement to", "start": 19483.16, "end": 19490.52}, {"text": "establish a responsible vision for midtown's growth supported by expert market analysis and town planning staff", "start": 19490.52, "end": 19498.36}, {"text": "whereas public feedback consistently supports reasonable growth while expressing concerns over excessive", "start": 19498.36, "end": 19504.798}, {"text": "density and insufficient Parkland whereas as the provincially imposed", "start": 19504.798, "end": 19510.04}, {"text": "Transit oriented Community Development process undermines local planning Authority contrary to M Minister kandra", "start": 19510.04, "end": 19518.16}, {"text": "and the premier stated importance of local planning the to proposal significantly", "start": 19518.16, "end": 19524.52}, {"text": "exceeds provential density targets with 2350 people in jobs per Hector 10 times", "start": 19524.52, "end": 19531.558}, {"text": "the minimum requirement and increases units beyond the initial applications without addressing Community concern", "start": 19531.558, "end": 19538.44}, {"text": "ears the to proposal diverges from the draft Opa and sets a dangerous precedent", "start": 19538.44, "end": 19545.24}, {"text": "by prioritizing Mega density over balanced and sustainable development whereas Oakville continues", "start": 19545.24, "end": 19552.558}, {"text": "to meet provincial housing goals and growth requirements through proactive planning including the draft Opa and", "start": 19552.558, "end": 19559.24}, {"text": "supports Community benefits and livability and whereas the re recent provincially imposed confidentiality has", "start": 19559.24, "end": 19567.08}, {"text": "limited council's ability to discuss the TOC proposal fostering public mistrust", "start": 19567.08, "end": 19573.08}, {"text": "regarding the mayor and council's stance on the plan and whereas the premier is stating quote the mayor has endorsed the", "start": 19573.08, "end": 19580.92}, {"text": "plan unquote whereas transparent communication and alignment with the draft Opa are essential to protect", "start": 19580.92, "end": 19588.52}, {"text": "oakville's vision for a compact complete and livable Midtown therefore be it", "start": 19588.52, "end": 19594.92}, {"text": "resolved Council does not endorse or approve the to proposal the TOC proposal", "start": 19594.92, "end": 19601.16}, {"text": "is inconsistent with council's input on the draft Opa and must be integrated", "start": 19601.16, "end": 19606.68}, {"text": "into the OPA to ensure a unified planning approach for Midtown Council requests the mayor", "start": 19606.68, "end": 19613.638}, {"text": "publicly clarify whether he has endorsed the to proposal and disclose any commitments made to the province or", "start": 19613.638, "end": 19620.04}, {"text": "developer District finally Council reaffirms its commitment to an Opa for", "start": 19620.04, "end": 19625.48}, {"text": "Midtown that achieves the provincial density targets while prioritizing local", "start": 19625.48, "end": 19630.638}, {"text": "needs livability and sustainable growth so mayor Burton I understand that this", "start": 19630.638, "end": 19636.32}, {"text": "now will be heard on January 27th I do want to acknowledge and thank you for your comments and stating that you did", "start": 19636.32, "end": 19643.32}, {"text": "not endorse uh the TOC proposal I still believe that this is an", "start": 19643.32, "end": 19648.48}, {"text": "important um motion for Council to make a public statement that we are committed", "start": 19648.48, "end": 19655.6}, {"text": "to these uh comments and resolutions it will give the public greater trust in", "start": 19655.6, "end": 19662.44}, {"text": "our Opa process greater trust in ourselves and it will make it clear to the premere where we stand in terms of", "start": 19662.44, "end": 19669.92}, {"text": "the importance of local planning and a livable Community for Midtown thank you for your time thank you very much", "start": 19669.92, "end": 19677.4}, {"text": "counselor um now um under our agenda it's my", "start": 19677.4, "end": 19684.04}, {"text": "pleasure to offer the proclamation uh that I'm about to to Proclaim and I uh thank uh councelor", "start": 19684.04, "end": 19691.558}, {"text": "eler and other counselors for having asked me to do this Christian Heritage Month December", "start": 19691.558, "end": 19698.558}, {"text": "2024 whereas the town of Oakville welcomes people from all over the world and of all backgrounds and faiths and", "start": 19698.558, "end": 19705.16}, {"text": "whereas a significant number of Oakville residents identify themselves as Christians and whereas December holds", "start": 19705.16, "end": 19712.08}, {"text": "special significance in the Christian calendar as the time of Advent and Christmas celebrations", "start": 19712.08, "end": 19718.2}, {"text": "therefore I do hereby Proclaim December 2024 as Christian Heritage Month and uh", "start": 19718.2, "end": 19724.76}, {"text": "councelor eler I hope that satisfies you thank you", "start": 19724.76, "end": 19730.12}, {"text": "um we now need uh a motion for the consideration and reading of the bylaws", "start": 19730.12, "end": 19736.2}, {"text": "as listed in the agenda councelor Longo and councelor Grant thank you is there any", "start": 19736.2, "end": 19741.44}, {"text": "objection there being none uh Madame clerk the bylaws are considered read and", "start": 19741.44, "end": 19747.08}, {"text": "passed I believe that completes all of the work of this heavy agenda and we're", "start": 19747.08, "end": 19753.52}, {"text": "just before midnight so well done councel in public thank everybody for", "start": 19753.52, "end": 19758.958}, {"text": "the way they approached the work of this evening it's been terrific working with you and I I look forward to working with", "start": 19758.958, "end": 19765.04}, {"text": "you again good night", "start": 19765.04, "end": 19769.078}]