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three", "start": 455.12, "end": 461.4}, {"text": "discussion items today and four information items on our agenda and I I", "start": 461.4, "end": 467.52}, {"text": "should tell you that as an advisory committee we make recommendations rather than decisions and the recommendations", "start": 467.52, "end": 474.319}, {"text": "that we make today will go to Planning and Development Council for its meeting on January the 20th", "start": 474.319, "end": 481.28}, {"text": "2025 gosh next year's coming fast uh and they meet at 6:30 and again the", "start": 481.28, "end": 486.479}, {"text": "delegation rules uh appli to that meeting too so are there any regrets", "start": 486.479, "end": 492.96}, {"text": "Madame sakre um through Mr chair I don't see um", "start": 492.96, "end": 498.56}, {"text": "councelor mnes okay thank you are there any", "start": 498.56, "end": 504.319}, {"text": "Declarations of Peary interest with respect to any matter before the committee today no thank you the next", "start": 504.319, "end": 511.84}, {"text": "item on the agenda is the confirmation of the minutes of the last meeting uh these have been circulated are there any", "start": 511.84, "end": 518.76}, {"text": "comments on the minutes would somebody like to give me a motion to approve the minutes Jerry thank you um any further", "start": 518.76, "end": 526.12}, {"text": "discussion on that anyone opposed to that motion the minutes are approved thank you so our first discussion item", "start": 526.12, "end": 534.24}, {"text": "is a Heritage permit with respect to the Reconstruction of the rep", "start": 534.24, "end": 540.72}, {"text": "Bandstand um in Georgia Square and that's", "start": 540.72, "end": 546.12}, {"text": "Sue thank you Mr chair we shall start the", "start": 551.6, "end": 558.079}, {"text": "presentation okay so um I'm sure this is a site that is familiar to uh most of", "start": 561.68, "end": 569.12}, {"text": "you um Georgia Square is of course located in the trfa road 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"the structure again Douglas fur is proposed for the railing materials which is a", "start": 860.759, "end": 866.72}, {"text": "quite hard hardwood hopefully will cut down on some of the um graffiti uh", "start": 866.72, "end": 873.44}, {"text": "carved into these structures and uh stained in the green color to match as", "start": 873.44, "end": 878.639}, {"text": "closely as possible what's there right now so as the existing bandand is a", "start": 878.639, "end": 886}, {"text": "replica and it fits the character of the park um replacement of the structure is generally in keeping with the district", "start": 886, "end": 892.48}, {"text": "plan so normally we always encourage uh repair when possible and especially", "start": 892.48, "end": 898.04}, {"text": "repair when we're dealing with historic materials in this case we're not dealing with any historic materials as all of", "start": 898.04, "end": 904.68}, {"text": "the structure dates from about 1996 and and they are facing some", "start": 904.68, "end": 910.12}, {"text": "significant deterioration and so therefore Heritage planning staff are not opposed to the replacement um and we", "start": 910.12, "end": 916.68}, {"text": "would like to see the Band Stand continue to uh be located in Georgia Square so the staff recommendation", "start": 916.68, "end": 923.04}, {"text": "before you is to approve the Heritage permit application and of course we've got our typical 2-year expiry date", "start": 923.04, "end": 929.6}, {"text": "Mr chair I'm happy to answer any questions super thanks Sue are there any", "start": 929.6, "end": 934.92}, {"text": "questions of Sue Jerry through you Mr chair thank you sue", "start": 934.92, "end": 942.12}, {"text": "that's uh it's nice to see the band stand is being replaced in in the same manner as what is existing today um", "start": 942.12, "end": 950.12}, {"text": "while we opened up the topic of the bandand on the uh in the Georgia Square", "start": 950.12, "end": 955.36}, 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and hopefully ensure that we we look after it better uh thank you through you Mr chair", "start": 1087.679, "end": 1095.08}, {"text": "this is also a question I'm going to defer to our parks and Open Spaces staff y okay thank you any other questions of", "start": 1095.08, "end": 1104.28}, {"text": "Sue no good thank you sue now I have one registered uh delegation that's that's", "start": 1104.28, "end": 1112}, {"text": "Janice nice to see you again Janice it's been a while um I don't know if you wanted to uh speak on behalf of the", "start": 1112, "end": 1118.96}, {"text": "applicant in this case or whether you have someone else here to do", "start": 1118.96, "end": 1124.28}, {"text": "that so if you would just give us your your name and uh position that would be very helpful", "start": 1126.24, "end": 1133.64}, {"text": "for the secretary yes uh thank you very much Mr chair my name is Frank lante the", "start": 1133.64, "end": 1138.96}, {"text": "manager of parks Capital planning with the parks and open space department Town of Oakville um there was a number of", "start": 1138.96, "end": 1145.159}, {"text": "questions that I'd be happy to answer for you uh the first question was regarding um the plans for Georgia", "start": 1145.159, "end": 1152.64}, {"text": "Square um to my knowledge there is no overall master plan to redevelop or", "start": 1152.64, "end": 1161.28}, {"text": "reorganize uh any elements within Georgia Square I know that in particular", "start": 1161.28, "end": 1166.919}, {"text": "over the years we've done Garden improvements walkway improvements um", "start": 1166.919, "end": 1172.799}, {"text": "this particular project is obviously another Improvement uh for the square um", "start": 1172.799, "end": 1179.72}, {"text": "just given its nature and uh cultural uh component there is really no plans at", "start": 1179.72, "end": 1186.039}, {"text": "this time to uh redevelop or make any significant changes to the", "start": 1186.039, "end": 1193.399}, {"text": "park okay um uh and then to answer through you Mr chair the additional", "start": 1194.32, "end": 1201.36}, {"text": "questions uh the budget for this project to replace the Bandstand the capital", "start": 1201.36, "end": 1207.6}, {"text": "budget was approved at $140,000 we went through an RFP process", "start": 1207.6, "end": 1214.28}, {"text": "and retained a uh very skilled carpentry company their bid came in at", "start": 1214.28, "end": 1222.039}, {"text": "$108,000 so there's a bit of savings there and then in regards to um the", "start": 1222.039, "end": 1229.159}, {"text": "question you had regarding maintenance um this structure is a a a 30 plus year", "start": 1229.159, "end": 1235.6}, {"text": "old structure um we have over 200 minor structures within our Park system so", "start": 1235.6, "end": 1242.48}, {"text": "it's it's certainly very difficult to um continue to maintain and be on top of", "start": 1242.48, "end": 1249.08}, {"text": "that program um so what we've decided very strategically is to improve the", "start": 1249.08, "end": 1255.679}, {"text": "materials and the methods of construction for this particular Bandstand so using Douglas fur in lie of", "start": 1255.679, "end": 1264.2}, {"text": "of cedar or pine um using a copper Final", "start": 1264.2, "end": 1269.36}, {"text": "in lie of of wood and then in addition the um there is going to be some", "start": 1269.36, "end": 1278.24}, {"text": "protection against Leaf litter and the mold and the Moss we're going to be adding a very nice um steel uh gutter", "start": 1278.24, "end": 1287.24}, {"text": "treatment around the perim of the roof to capture um water and just", "start": 1287.24, "end": 1292.919}, {"text": "to avoid any water from getting below the structure and and further", "start": 1292.919, "end": 1298.12}, {"text": "deteriorating the structure okay good thank you thank you", "start": 1298.12, "end": 1305.159}, {"text": "so questions Jerry Jason J but Jerry first are you do do", "start": 1305.159, "end": 1311.64}, {"text": "you want to speak yeah okay Jerry oh thank you Mr chair thank you Frank for the explanation my question", "start": 1311.64, "end": 1319.279}, {"text": "wasn't regarding A New Concept for the square but what record do we have of the", "start": 1319.279, "end": 1326.919}, {"text": "concept of the square as it is what are the plans and to speak to um Jason's", "start": 1326.919, "end": 1333.44}, {"text": "comment about what is the maintenance um plan for this in the future but my question was more from a Civic", "start": 1333.44, "end": 1340.48}, {"text": "standpoint we have a beautiful Heritage Square in a Heritage District um what are the existing principles for for its", "start": 1340.48, "end": 1347.64}, {"text": "design for its it use for its continuity for its relationship with the public for its Civic engagement for the um", "start": 1347.64, "end": 1356}, {"text": "ceremonies that it houses so what is the plan like has someone surely somewhere", "start": 1356, "end": 1363.039}, {"text": "in the city in the town there must be a a file folder that says Georgia Square", "start": 1363.039, "end": 1368.799}, {"text": "has these characteristics these Design Concepts what are they that was just my questions what are they and can we know", "start": 1368.799, "end": 1374.84}, {"text": "what they are so that it retains the importance within the heritage district and the continuity so everybody would be", "start": 1374.84, "end": 1381.2}, {"text": "on board when it comes to issues of Maintenance buildings structures and the design of how people use the space thank", "start": 1381.2, "end": 1389.96}, {"text": "you Frank through you Mr chair uh thank you for clarifying your uh your comments and", "start": 1391.679, "end": 1399.559}, {"text": "questions I I would certainly go back and um try to track down that", "start": 1399.559, "end": 1404.799}, {"text": "information for you and be able to present it to you um possibly at the next next", "start": 1404.799, "end": 1412.4}, {"text": "meeting okay Jason thank you appreciate that um and I", "start": 1414.44, "end": 1420}, {"text": "think that really Builds on the um comment that Jerry's made through you Mr chair um $100,000 of expenditure on", "start": 1420, "end": 1428.12}, {"text": "something that we how much is it used do we need it I mean that's just a question", "start": 1428.12, "end": 1434.159}, {"text": "I know it's um is there something we could do better with the 108,000", "start": 1434.159, "end": 1439.559}, {"text": "in respect of that it's not Heritage it didn't I read the papers it didn't have a Heritage structure just asking the", "start": 1439.559, "end": 1447.32}, {"text": "question I think it's an interesting question but it's not our question um that that was decided at the council", "start": 1447.32, "end": 1454.2}, {"text": "level with respect to the budget and speaking of somebody who lives adjacent to it I I'm delighted to see it uh being", "start": 1454.2, "end": 1461.84}, {"text": "being refurbished and there used to be a Bandstand there in in olden times and it burned down I don't know if there are", "start": 1461.84, "end": 1468.08}, {"text": "any photographs of it that we could get from the Historical Society but they may have in fact found some when they did", "start": 1468.08, "end": 1474.559}, {"text": "the original design back in 96 but um from my point of view I think", "start": 1474.559, "end": 1479.6}, {"text": "it would be nice to see more use made of it and uh just opportunities I used to", "start": 1479.6, "end": 1484.919}, {"text": "think that perhaps um you know what if if the school orchestra wanted to appear", "start": 1484.919, "end": 1490.2}, {"text": "there in the summer and just use the band stand for rehearsals or a local", "start": 1490.2, "end": 1495.279}, {"text": "Jazz group could get to use it for rehearsals I know it gets used a lot in the summertime there are all kinds of um", "start": 1495.279, "end": 1502.72}, {"text": "sort of day programs for kids uh in in the in the vicinity and uh we're able to", "start": 1502.72, "end": 1509.2}, {"text": "watch from our Veranda as piles of kids come into the park they're all over the bandand they're all over the place and", "start": 1509.2, "end": 1515.36}, {"text": "then they go and then another shift comes in so it does get a surprising amount of use but I think it could get", "start": 1515.36, "end": 1520.96}, {"text": "more and one question I did have just just just a thought uh the town does a", "start": 1520.96, "end": 1526.2}, {"text": "great job with the uh with the lighting of the square and um the town now does", "start": 1526.2, "end": 1531.559}, {"text": "it itself too it uses its own equipment and its own stuff and you get guys way up and the cherry picker way up at the", "start": 1531.559, "end": 1537.679}, {"text": "top of a tree trying to wrap lights around a tree it's a job I wouldn't like to do and they do it on the Bandstand as", "start": 1537.679, "end": 1544.32}, {"text": "well um I don't know if that constant", "start": 1544.32, "end": 1549.44}, {"text": "putting on lights and taking off lights um causes any damage issues but you", "start": 1549.44, "end": 1555.399}, {"text": "could give some thought maybe to some pre-wiring or something that you could do at the construction stage that might", "start": 1555.399, "end": 1561.679}, {"text": "facilitate uh the the the the dressing overall of the Bandstand with lights uh", "start": 1561.679, "end": 1567.32}, {"text": "each each Christmas because it really looks nice when it when it's done properly so I just offer that as a as as", "start": 1567.32, "end": 1573.2}, {"text": "a thought something you might you might want to consider so are there any other questions of the um of of the applicant", "start": 1573.2, "end": 1581.559}, {"text": "NOP NOP thank you very much um I don't see anybody here who", "start": 1581.559, "end": 1587.24}, {"text": "would want to delegate on the matter so it's now confined to the board any comments any", "start": 1587.24, "end": 1593.559}, {"text": "discussion somebody car I think you would like to give me the um move the", "start": 1594.799, "end": 1600.52}, {"text": "motion that that the staff have put before as the staff recommendation um any further discussion on that motion", "start": 1600.52, "end": 1607.72}, {"text": "anyone opposed to that motion thank you the motion is carried so the next item", "start": 1607.72, "end": 1613.919}, {"text": "on our agenda is item 4.2 with respect to an application for", "start": 1613.919, "end": 1621.679}, {"text": "1118 Lakeshore Road East and that's", "start": 1621.679, "end": 1627.559}, {"text": "carollyn yes thank you Mr chair so M most you be familiar um with", "start": 1628.88, "end": 1635.12}, {"text": "this property as we had a Heritage permit for it um at the end of", "start": 1635.12, "end": 1641.679}, {"text": "2022 it's located here on the south side of lakire road East uh in southeast", "start": 1641.679, "end": 1647.159}, {"text": "Oakville and it's a designated property part 4 uh it was designated in 1993 and", "start": 1647.159, "end": 1653.919}, {"text": "what's considered to be part of the Heritage value is the original uh 1866 two-story Italian at stucco house as", "start": 1653.919, "end": 1661}, {"text": "well as the 1910 sun room uh to the east of the original house so the previous", "start": 1661, "end": 1666.559}, {"text": "Heritage permit which was completed in 2023 was to remove rear wings of the house and to construct new rear wings", "start": 1666.559, "end": 1673.519}, {"text": "and side wings um where the garage currently is so during the construction", "start": 1673.519, "end": 1678.84}, {"text": "of those um rear additions there were significant structural issues found with the 1910 sun room Wing which was", "start": 1678.84, "end": 1686.24}, {"text": "proposed to be retained and 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and the new French doors and then of course the", "start": 2054.399, "end": 2059.76}, {"text": "standard two years uh deadline so happy to answer any questions but we should also have online joining us uh represent", "start": 2059.76, "end": 2068}, {"text": "from the designers contractors and the structural engineering firm so hopefully if there's any detailed technical", "start": 2068, "end": 2074.679}, {"text": "questions they would be able to help us as well good thank you thank you Carolyn it's astonishing it remained so", "start": 2074.679, "end": 2082.919}, {"text": "true for so long with essentially no Foundations at all um must be a some", "start": 2082.919, "end": 2090}, {"text": "kind of a tribute to the carpenter who who put it all together so tightly that it it held together okay any questions", "start": 2090, "end": 2097.44}, {"text": "on of CN yes Bob through you Mr chair do we know now", "start": 2097.44, "end": 2106.44}, {"text": "how they're going to deal with the 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okay in the meantime any other questions of of", "start": 2165, "end": 2170.359}, {"text": "carollyn Jerry Thank you Mr chair Carolyn um I I", "start": 2170.359, "end": 2176.319}, {"text": "I support the staff recommendation there really doesn't seem to be an alternative or an option right and it's structural", "start": 2176.319, "end": 2183}, {"text": "but it came to light as you were presenting today I don't know how M Maybe we did address it in the past but", "start": 2183, "end": 2189.68}, {"text": "I looked at because we don't normally have uh interior floor plans but on page 75 it shows the second floor plan and it", "start": 2189.68, "end": 2196.88}, {"text": "shows a washroom in there and where the windows are on the front facade facing lakes Shore there are uh there's a", "start": 2196.88, "end": 2205.04}, {"text": "double vanity um and then there's a shower and I'm curious to know how", "start": 2205.04, "end": 2211.88}, {"text": "they're going to address glazing in this in this scenario because is are they", "start": 2211.88, "end": 2218.88}, {"text": "going to leave the sinks as they are float the mirrors and have it open to", "start": 2218.88, "end": 2224.44}, {"text": "the to view on lakes Shore Road or are they planning to blacken the windows or", "start": 2224.44, "end": 2230.92}, {"text": "put in solid panels because this is important for the Heritage Integrity of", "start": 2230.92, "end": 2236.599}, {"text": "the of the facade and the look um yes through you Mr chair to Jerry um yeah I'm I'm not sure uh", "start": 2236.599, "end": 2244.88}, {"text": "looking at the drawings it looks like there is you know room in terms of the height but and you're right um", "start": 2244.88, "end": 2251.04}, {"text": "visibility obviously would be a question and hopefully the the designer or contractor could answer that there is a", "start": 2251.04, "end": 2256.4}, {"text": "lot of privacy there so um possibly they're not looking at doing any special treatment just because of where it's", "start": 2256.4, "end": 2262}, {"text": "located um it's set back quite a ways from Lakeshore Road but possibly they are looking at some kind of film or", "start": 2262, "end": 2267.359}, {"text": "something um but I think the idea was even through the previous uh application", "start": 2267.359, "end": 2272.56}, {"text": "when the structure was being retained was to have the on Suite bathroom in there and and to keep all those windows", "start": 2272.56, "end": 2278.68}, {"text": "so I think that had always been in the plan um but certainly we can ask that detail in terms of how they'd be", "start": 2278.68, "end": 2283.96}, {"text": "treating it but again from our perspective as long as it kind of looks like what's in the drawings from the exterior um we're supportive of what", "start": 2283.96, "end": 2291.079}, {"text": "they do in the interior as long as it doesn't have a negative impact on the exterior did you say there's an existing", "start": 2291.079, "end": 2298.28}, {"text": "on Suite there now h no I don't know that there's an existing on Suite there today I just", "start": 2298.28, "end": 2304.079}, {"text": "mean that through the previous application they had already um proposed to have I think the principal on stre in", "start": 2304.079, "end": 2309.56}, {"text": "that location no I thought I heard you say it was there in which case you must have addressed it previously but anyway", "start": 2309.56, "end": 2316.04}, {"text": "we we'll get that from the uh from the applicant when when that comes so Madame", "start": 2316.04, "end": 2321.079}, {"text": "secretary you're trying to get the applicant um correct", "start": 2321.079, "end": 2326.96}, {"text": "online correct I'm just if you can hold a couple second", "start": 2326.96, "end": 2333.119}, {"text": "please so as the saying the Army chat amongst yourselves smoke if you have", "start": 2335.52, "end": 2341.44}, {"text": "them Mr Daren is online you have to unmute yourself thank", "start": 2343.8, "end": 2353.079}, {"text": "you morning morning everyone how are you doing today can you hear me is that", "start": 2358.599, "end": 2363.72}, {"text": "Darren it is yes Darren and and you're going to help us with the application", "start": 2363.72, "end": 2370.68}, {"text": "for 1118 lakesh show Road East and are you speaking just on your own can you", "start": 2370.68, "end": 2377.56}, {"text": "cover the questions that did you hear the questions that were raised earlier I did hear I'm just getting some", "start": 2377.56, "end": 2384.04}, {"text": "kind of Reverb on my on my mic here but", "start": 2384.04, "end": 2390.28}, {"text": "um I understand there were some questions about the footings and Foundations yes", "start": 2390.68, "end": 2398.319}, {"text": "the the footings and Foundations are going to be essentially constructed to match existing and it will step up it'll", "start": 2399.359, "end": 2406.16}, {"text": "be a full New 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"regard um I believe on that side the vanities are going to be below the windows and", "start": 2456.68, "end": 2461.88}, {"text": "any mirrors should be kind of either off to the side it shouldn't be blocking any Windows is my understanding from what", "start": 2461.88, "end": 2467.48}, {"text": "the interior designer is putting together but those windows will be matching what is there now there there's", "start": 2467.48, "end": 2473.079}, {"text": "not going to be any black outs or anything on them at all okay Jerry is", "start": 2473.079, "end": 2480.319}, {"text": "that through you Mr sh yes I it just appears on the elevation perhaps it's uh I don't see any diens ions but it the", "start": 2481.2, "end": 2488.319}, {"text": "window sills are quite low and they would appear to be lower than any conventional vanity height so that that", "start": 2488.319, "end": 2496.2}, {"text": "was what one of the reasons that the the question was brought", "start": 2496.2, "end": 2503.079}, {"text": "up and where the mirror would be attached we're just concerned about the look The Integrity of the", "start": 2503.079, "end": 2509.52}, {"text": "fenestration as viewed from Lakes Shure road to maintain the Integrity of the Heritage structure when it's being", "start": 2509.52, "end": 2515.88}, {"text": "reconstructed thank you so that that's an that's an interior", "start": 2515.88, "end": 2522.44}, {"text": "issue is is what you're telling us you're dealing with any of these issues uh in internally so any other questions", "start": 2522.44, "end": 2530.56}, {"text": "of the applicant nope nope no other questions", "start": 2530.56, "end": 2536.92}, {"text": "for you um you don't need to go away you can stay and listen but uh and if was any more questions we'll get back to you", "start": 2536.92, "end": 2544.079}, {"text": "okay sounds good thank you oh just just a second before you go y through you Mr chair just one quick", "start": 2544.079, "end": 2549.96}, {"text": "question I I actually attended the site visit and was pleased to see the the the the drawings have come back um the", "start": 2549.96, "end": 2556.119}, {"text": "homeowner did talk about having the potential to open these windows um however I don't see any notation on the", "start": 2556.119, "end": 2563.359}, {"text": "um plans that any of these windows are operable so just a question if that was um something that had been missed or", "start": 2563.359, "end": 2569.48}, {"text": "whether or not it' been agreed they're going to be sealed shut thank you I believe the intent is", "start": 2569.48, "end": 2576.44}, {"text": "to have them match and function of the existing windows I believe they are going to be double hung style that that", "start": 2576.44, "end": 2582.48}, {"text": "are functional um within reason obviously now any of those top window", "start": 2582.48, "end": 2588.599}, {"text": "areas may be blocked by syn's access then they would be fixed windows and", "start": 2588.599, "end": 2595.44}, {"text": "just have the appearance of to match the style", "start": 2595.44, "end": 2601.119}, {"text": "is there somebody else trying to answer that it's just just echoing and repeating yeah did you catch any of it", "start": 2609.96, "end": 2616.4}, {"text": "Jason I I didn't but I perhaps can clarify my question it was more pertaining to the windows at the ground", "start": 2616.4, "end": 2621.76}, {"text": "floor um where there isn't any um they perhaps were once operable but it", "start": 2621.76, "end": 2627.2}, {"text": "doesn't show on the drawings that's all it just doesn't show that the window was to be operable and that was really the", "start": 2627.2, "end": 2632.68}, {"text": "only question that was uh and they would be Cas yeah did you mention through you Mr chair the", "start": 2632.68, "end": 2639.359}, {"text": "we also put in as a condition um Jason in the staff recommendation that all the", "start": 2639.359, "end": 2644.4}, {"text": "wind 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comments or discussion", "start": 2693.44, "end": 2698.44}, {"text": "okay would somebody like to give me a motion thank you Bob Bob has given us the motion to approve the staff", "start": 2699, "end": 2704.92}, {"text": "recommendation any discussion on that motion anyone opposed to that motion", "start": 2704.92, "end": 2711.359}, {"text": "nope the motion is carried thank you very much okay the next item of the agenda is", "start": 2711.359, "end": 2719.52}, {"text": "4.3 which is a notice to amend the bylaw for St John's United", "start": 2719.52, "end": 2724.76}, {"text": "Church and uh that's Carolyn again good", "start": 2724.76, "end": 2730.76}, {"text": "okay thank you Mr chair this is another one that should be familiar to most of you um we did the original designation", "start": 2730.76, "end": 2736.359}, {"text": "of St John's Church in 2021 uh and what we're doing today is coming back to look at amending the bylaw to add additional", "start": 2736.359, "end": 2743.319}, {"text": "features to the designation so um you're all quite familiar with this property but um what", "start": 2743.319, "end": 2749.24}, {"text": "we're looking at today is including pieces of the Memorial Garden which you", "start": 2749.24, "end": 2755.359}, {"text": "can see in the sort of the bottom corner there where that courtyard is um in one of the only two Open Spaces on the", "start": 2755.359, "end": 2761.92}, {"text": "property So currently um when we designated the property in 2021 we", "start": 2761.92, "end": 2767.28}, {"text": "included the main sanctuary building um and the Sunday School um or the Vester at the back as well as the lus call the", "start": 2767.28, "end": 2774.28}, {"text": "20th century lus call Edition and the church has requested us to include the Memorial Garden and the BW as well we", "start": 2774.28, "end": 2780.8}, {"text": "had looked at that before and we'd always considered it to be of Heritage value um but we do now have support from", 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the wall of the church which", "start": 2858.079, "end": 2864.92}, {"text": "contain the information of people whose ashes have been scattered um in that", "start": 2864.92, "end": 2870.119}, {"text": "location and then finally the bronze P commemorating commemorating the carryon bells in the tower on the wall of the", "start": 2870.119, "end": 2875.72}, {"text": "church so you can see all those features here you see the tree in the foreground um", "start": 2875.72, "end": 2882.319}, {"text": "and then the Bell Tower and the Memorial Garden behind so this is closer up showing the little um low brick walls of", "start": 2882.319, "end": 2889.88}, {"text": "the Memorial Garden and coming around here seeing more of those features so the way we", "start": 2889.88, "end": 2895.68}, {"text": "designate written the designation bylaws things like these pavers could be replaced but we want to be able to maintain uh the design that you see", "start": 2895.68, "end": 2902.8}, {"text": "there which was replicating or you know referring to uh the stain glass Arch Windows of the", "start": 2902.8, "end": 2908.68}, {"text": "church and which might I add was very clever designed and done by staff uh church members themselves I this wasn't", "start": 2908.68, "end": 2914.96}, {"text": "all done by professional landscapers a lot of members of the church volunteered and did a lot of this work themselves", "start": 2914.96, "end": 2920.559}, {"text": "too and these are the shields with the names of um former members who have had", "start": 2920.559, "end": 2925.839}, {"text": "their ashes scattered or family members um on this site and again just a couple more views", "start": 2925.839, "end": 2932.28}, {"text": "of the Bell Tower and the church or and the the um tree rather", "start": 2932.28, "end": 2938.319}, {"text": "so we just have a simple recommendation and that's that notice be issued under subsection 3.13 of the Heritage act to", "start": 2938.319, "end": 2944.88}, {"text": "the owners of the property um to make these amendments uh under this section of the Heritage act so the notice will", "start": 2944.88, "end": 2950.96}, {"text": "go to the owners who are of course the church um who've been working closely with us to make these changes and um so", "start": 2950.96, "end": 2956.839}, {"text": "they're quite supportive of what we've included um and I'm happy to answer any questions but I don't believe anyone", "start": 2956.839, "end": 2962}, {"text": "here from the church is attending um but they are supportive and happy of the process", "start": 2962, "end": 2967.48}, {"text": "okay good um just a little question that occurred to me it's still used as a", "start": 2967.48, "end": 2972.68}, {"text": "scattering Garden right uh which means there will be additional names", "start": 2972.68, "end": 2978.52}, {"text": "added which may mean you might need an additional bronze plaque so what would", "start": 2978.52, "end": 2984.839}, {"text": "be the process would they have to come back here to get a Heritage permit in order to put up another bronze plaque to", "start": 2984.839, "end": 2993.119}, {"text": "add the new the Overflow names onto so through you Mr chair we won't be requiring any approvals for names to be", "start": 2993.119, "end": 2999.599}, {"text": "added to the plaque so typically what they do for that Shield is they put little temporary ones on there um and", "start": 2999.599, "end": 3005.319}, {"text": "then when it's completed they take all the temporary ones off and they inscribe them um a final version um with all the", "start": 3005.319, "end": 3012.68}, {"text": "names on it uh if that that kind of work would not require any Heritage approval if they have a whole new Shield or new", "start": 3012.68, "end": 3018.92}, {"text": "plaque they want to install we would take a minor Heritage permit again for that very minor very small and quick um", "start": 3018.92, "end": 3024.68}, {"text": "but the idea would be to monitor where that's going on the wall to make sure it's being installed in a way that", "start": 3024.68, "end": 3029.96}, {"text": "retains the bricks of the church um typically we like these things to be installed through the mort so we're not", "start": 3029.96, "end": 3035.92}, {"text": "damaging bricks uh but again a quick process but we would be supportive of of new shields in the in the future if", "start": 3035.92, "end": 3042.2}, {"text": "necessary okay okay just a thought anyway any other questions of", "start": 3042.2, "end": 3048.88}, {"text": "Carolyn good and there is nobody here delegating so we're confined to the board any further discussion on", "start": 3048.88, "end": 3055.64}, {"text": "this somebody like to give me a motion George George has given me the motion to", "start": 3055.64, "end": 3061.2}, {"text": "approve the staff recommendation any further discussion on that anyone opposed to that motion thank you the", "start": 3061.2, "end": 3068.24}, {"text": "motion is carried so we now go into information", "start": 3068.24, "end": 3075.079}, {"text": "items and I see that there are four so there's the Heritage Conservation", "start": 3075.079, "end": 3080.839}, {"text": "District update and is that so", "start": 3080.839, "end": 3086.079}, {"text": "thank you Mr chair so uh staff have been very busy um trying to get the I swear", "start": 3088.799, "end": 3096.76}, {"text": "the last edits to this uh draft plan done um I am hoping that the revised", "start": 3096.76, "end": 3103.68}, {"text": "draft plan will be available online publicly um if not by the end of today", "start": 3103.68, "end": 3110.359}, {"text": "by the end of this week fingers crossed for the end of today um we are looking", "start": 3110.359, "end": 3115.559}, {"text": "at our statutory public meeting um which is required by the Ontario Heritage act", "start": 3115.559, "end": 3120.92}, {"text": "to uh formally review and receive comments from the public um on the draft", "start": 3120.92, "end": 3127.48}, {"text": "plan and guidelines on February 3rd uh we were hoping to be in January but", "start": 3127.48, "end": 3133.799}, {"text": "there are a lot of big items coming down the pipeline so February the 3D and so I'm working with the town's legislative", "start": 3133.799, "end": 3140.079}, {"text": "coordinator to make sure that those notices are sent out they will be going out in the beginning of uh", "start": 3140.079, "end": 3147.359}, {"text": "2025 20 days notice is required to all um Property Owners within the Heritage", "start": 3147.359, "end": 3154.72}, {"text": "Conservation District and of course um staff will be undertaking a number of other um Communications to ensure that", "start": 3154.72, "end": 3162.52}, {"text": "everybody knows that the the revised plan is available that we would love to receive their comments either at the", "start": 3162.52, "end": 3168.52}, {"text": "public meeting or um via email or communication to staff and uh we are", "start": 3168.52, "end": 3175.319}, {"text": "very hopeful that we'll be to wrap up this whole process in the first quarter of next year thank you Mr", "start": 3175.319, "end": 3184.16}, {"text": "chair okay thank you uh Sue uh the designation project update", "start": 3184.16, "end": 3191.799}, {"text": "car uh yes thank you so we'll have some more uh designations coming to the committee in January um the other thing", "start": 3191.799, "end": 3198.799}, {"text": "we've been working on right now is we have several um Heritage ement agreements that have just been uh", "start": 3198.799, "end": 3204.52}, {"text": "registered for the Tannery wall building properties so we're looking at protecting those through Heritage", "start": 3204.52, "end": 3210.079}, {"text": "multiple Heritage eement agreements um which we're on track to to do so um that's been a lot of work that you", "start": 3210.079, "end": 3216.24}, {"text": "haven't seen but we will bring um a staff report on that one just so you're able to see all the the work that was", "start": 3216.24, "end": 3221.52}, {"text": "done into the history of that important site um but that has been a big change that has been happening but you haven't", "start": 3221.52, "end": 3227.559}, {"text": "seen because the easement agreements aren't individually all coming uh to the committee at this point um other than", "start": 3227.559, "end": 3232.88}, {"text": "that we will have more designations in January we are um technically sort of supposed to be wrapping up the project", "start": 3232.88, "end": 3239.28}, {"text": "in the new year but there will of course be continuous designations but we have well over 60 in place with an additional", "start": 3239.28, "end": 3245.079}, {"text": "almost 20 um through the Tannery and some a number of other designations that", "start": 3245.079, "end": 3250.119}, {"text": "are still being uh in the works through the the research being done that will come forward in the New Year good thank", "start": 3250.119, "end": 3259.44}, {"text": "you and then this is our annual update", "start": 3259.44, "end": 3264.88}, {"text": "on the uh the the the Oak Tree on Bronte Road the health assessment um she's not", "start": 3264.88, "end": 3272.52}, {"text": "getting any younger and and and like all of us is starting to show signs of", "start": 3272.52, "end": 3278.76}, {"text": "gentle aging which I guess after a couple hundred years is is to be expected um but at least it is getting", "start": 3278.76, "end": 3286.48}, {"text": "an annual review and it and I guess the region does follow up on on the actions", "start": 3286.48, "end": 3292.68}, {"text": "that are recommended by the arborist um which we believe to be so and I'm sure our regional councilors will will keep", "start": 3292.68, "end": 3299.319}, {"text": "their eye on that one you've got in your information items", "start": 3299.319, "end": 3304.359}, {"text": "as well a list of the delegated uh Heritage permits which were approved uh", "start": 3304.359, "end": 3311.24}, {"text": "since the last report and as usual if you have any questions on these you should ask the staff after the meeting", "start": 3311.24, "end": 3318.28}, {"text": "so these are the information items uh Sue would like to give me a motion to", "start": 3318.28, "end": 3323.799}, {"text": "receive the information items so thank you very much um any further discussion on that anyone", "start": 3323.799, "end": 3329.839}, {"text": "opposed to that motion the items are received good so we're down to the date and time", "start": 3329.839, "end": 3336.68}, {"text": "of our next meeting which is next year on January the 28th be live in the", "start": 3336.68, "end": 3341.799}, {"text": "council chamber at 9:30 so uh before we adjourn I'd like to", "start": 3341.799, "end": 3348.599}, {"text": "thank you all again for the gift of your time today and for the whole year and to wish everybody all the the best for this", "start": 3348.599, "end": 3355.68}, {"text": "festive season season and let's hope that 2025 brings us all that we could wish for somebody would love to give me", "start": 3355.68, "end": 3363.079}, {"text": "a motion to Bob is going to give me a motion to adjourn to which no one is opposed the meeting is adjourned thank", "start": 3363.079, "end": 3370.119}, {"text": "you", "start": 3370.119, "end": 3373.119}]