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{"text": "because we are meeting in person and remotely we ask for your patience with", "start": 200.76, "end": 205.92}, {"text": "any delays and technical issues if you are registered to speak at today's", "start": 205.92, "end": 211}, {"text": "meeting please listen for me to call your name I will call speakers in the order they appear on the list the list", "start": 211, "end": 217.76}, {"text": "of speakers can be viewed online by visiting the Toronto preservation board at", "start": 217.76, "end": 222.959}, {"text": "toronto.ca counil and clicking the speaker box for today's", "start": 222.959, "end": 229.12}, {"text": "meeting I would like to request that staff and invited participants as well as all observers joining remotely keep", "start": 229.319, "end": 236.239}, {"text": "their video turned off unless they need to speak or answer questions this is", "start": 236.239, "end": 241.76}, {"text": "going to make it easier for me as chair to see the members as we debate and vote 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you are in favor or opposed members the city clerk has provided all agenda materials on your", "start": 287.44, "end": 295.16}, {"text": "toronto.ca counil as a reminder please submit andove approve your motions by", "start": 295.16, "end": 301.039}, {"text": "email staff are available at htpb toronto.ca to help with", "start": 301.039, "end": 308.84}, {"text": "motions although we may be meeting in different locations today the preservation board would like to", "start": 308.84, "end": 315.12}, {"text": "acknowledge that the land we are meeting on is the traditional territory of many nations including the missas of the", "start": 315.12, "end": 321.28}, {"text": "credit the anishnabe the Chipawa the Hardon and the wendat peoples and is now", "start": 321.28, "end": 327.12}, {"text": "home to many diverse First Nations Inuit mate peoples we also acknowledge that", "start": 327.12, "end": 332.319}, {"text": "Toronto is covered by treaty 13 with the Miss sagas of the credit at this time", "start": 332.319, "end": 338.08}, {"text": "are there any Declarations of Interest under the municipal conflict of interest act if you have an interest please raise", "start": 338.08, "end": 344.68}, {"text": "your hand uh and unmute your mic and indicate the number and the nature of the", "start": 344.68, "end": 350.319}, {"text": "interest Adam I saw your hand raised 26.7 the 508 510 Church Street I'm the", "start": 350.319, "end": 357.36}, {"text": "former director of the church Welsley Bia and I've had meetings with the developer in question regarding this project perfect clerks could sell me the", "start": 357.36, "end": 364.28}, {"text": "conflict form so I could fill that I say p it be hugely appreciated thank you thank you very much are there any other", "start": 364.28, "end": 371.16}, {"text": "Declarations of Interest seeing", "start": 371.16, "end": 377.16}, {"text": "none may I please have a motion to confirm the minutes from our meeting on November 28th", "start": 377.16, "end": 384.72}, {"text": "2024 Paul thank you very much all those in favor raise your", "start": 385.36, "end": 391.8}, {"text": "hands motion carries now we're going to move into the", "start": 391.8, "end": 398.199}, {"text": "agenda review the first item is PB 26.1 3100 Weston Road notice of intention to", "start": 398.199, "end": 406.12}, {"text": "designate a property under part 4 section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act there are public speakers on this item", "start": 406.12, "end": 412.68}, {"text": "so it will be held the next item is PB 26.2 29 31 and 33 suex Avenue notice of", "start": 412.68, "end": 421.84}, {"text": "intention to designate a property under part four section 29 of the Ontario", "start": 421.84, "end": 426.919}, {"text": "Heritage act there's a presentation from Heritage planning staff available if the board would like to hear it would", "start": 426.919, "end": 432.96}, {"text": "anybody care to hold this item hold held by Adam thank you very much the 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"end": 1068.679}, {"text": "you thank you very much Lissa we have a number of speakers on this item so I'm", "start": 1069.64, "end": 1076.679}, {"text": "going to call everybody in order and I will sort of say this at the get-go every speaker has five minutes to speak", "start": 1076.679, "end": 1083.48}, {"text": "um and because it is a robust list I will absolutely cut you off at the end", "start": 1083.48, "end": 1088.64}, {"text": "of five minutes um but I invite everybody to up and I'll call you in the order that I have you on my list so the", "start": 1088.64, "end": 1095.919}, {"text": "first is Angela Carboni good day", "start": 1095.919, "end": 1102.44}, {"text": "hello welcome Angela you have five minutes okay I'm here on behalf of the", "start": 1102.44, "end": 1110.64}, {"text": "Maran Shrine of gratitude um as you're aware there are", "start": 1110.64, "end": 1117.08}, {"text": "thousands of people interested last year in September", "start": 1117.08, "end": 1122.64}, {"text": "councelor peruta brought forward a petition of", "start": 1122.64, "end": 1128.32}, {"text": "177,000 at this moment the petition is at 21, n almost 900 individuals and still", "start": 1128.32, "end": 1137.919}, {"text": "climbing um this property has been used by the Brazilian fathers since", "start": 1137.919, "end": 1146}, {"text": "2004 inviting members of the community of all types and many came thousands uh", "start": 1146, "end": 1153.679}, {"text": "weekly I'd say thousands came people came because they found peace they found", "start": 1153.679, "end": 1160.32}, {"text": "healing they found a place of Solace um and it is still there even though the", "start": 1160.32, "end": 1166.28}, {"text": "structures are down the actual ual feeling of peace and the presence of God", "start": 1166.28, "end": 1172.919}, {"text": "and the healing is still in the area so we have continued", "start": 1172.919, "end": 1178.559}, {"text": "praying since it was sold and now have permission from Samuel with Ain", "start": 1178.559, "end": 1185.52}, {"text": "Corporation to continue praying there the thousands that are petitioning are", "start": 1185.52, "end": 1192.48}, {"text": "all hoping to regain a piece of property to pray again I'm talking healings of", "start": 1192.48, "end": 1200.36}, {"text": "terminal cancer blindness uh people who couldn't walk", "start": 1200.36, "end": 1206.28}, {"text": "and there are hundreds um some of them are here today some have written into", "start": 1206.28, "end": 1212.4}, {"text": "you and many are crying out hoping that this piece of land be considered", "start": 1212.4, "end": 1219.64}, {"text": "Heritage and sacred land for the community so we are here to really", "start": 1219.64, "end": 1227.2}, {"text": "petition that this is considered it started with a priest who lived in the", "start": 1227.2, "end": 1232.48}, {"text": "house on October 4th 2004 who had a", "start": 1232.48, "end": 1237.559}, {"text": "perforated retina and there was medical evidence that he was blind on the same", "start": 1237.559, "end": 1243.6}, {"text": "day October 4th 2004 he prayed and his sight was", "start": 1243.6, "end": 1250.28}, {"text": "restored till he died had 220 Vision among others my mother had colon", "start": 1250.28, "end": 1258.039}, {"text": "cancer and after going there praying with Father she was completely cancer free at", "start": 1258.039, "end": 1265.039}, {"text": "the age of 85 and lived till she was 98 I personally rented at the Carmine", "start": 1265.039, "end": 1272.52}, {"text": "Stefano from 2000 the year 2000 till", "start": 1272.52, "end": 1278.84}, {"text": "2018 and I I stayed at The Shrine daily I held many people who were in Desperate", "start": 1278.84, "end": 1286.44}, {"text": "situations some terminally some suicidal and many came back with a", "start": 1286.44, "end": 1292.72}, {"text": "smile finding hope as you're all aware Canada is in a very dark place right now", "start": 1292.72, "end": 1300.279}, {"text": "many people are looking for Hope and many people are taking their own lives", "start": 1300.279, "end": 1306.279}, {"text": "so this is something so it's a gift from God and it's a gift of Hope and when I", "start": 1306.279, "end": 1313.08}, {"text": "was there one of the priests told me when times get very very difficult God", "start": 1313.08, "end": 1319.279}, {"text": "sends a place like this to the community and God gave us a place like Lords in", "start": 1319.279, "end": 1327.96}, {"text": "Toronto and I pray that we don't lose it I've done everything in my power to try", "start": 1327.96, "end": 1334.48}, {"text": "to save it I've worked with hundreds of people who constantly call me to this", "start": 1334.48, "end": 1340.36}, {"text": "day begging me to keep it open trying to get this place back we're hopeful that", "start": 1340.36, "end": 1346.72}, {"text": "Samuel is listening to us now I think he realizes this is real because otherwise", "start": 1346.72, "end": 1353.36}, {"text": "people wouldn't continue knocking and people haven't stopped in the last week", "start": 1353.36, "end": 1358.84}, {"text": "alone 200 people signed the petition people are calling night and", "start": 1358.84, "end": 1365}, {"text": "day wanting this place to be back and in this dark time this is a gift to Toronto", "start": 1365, "end": 1372.08}, {"text": "and if you look at places like Lords Fatima it brings tons of Tourism and", "start": 1372.08, "end": 1378.84}, {"text": "tons of love and tons of Hope for the community so I really pray that you", "start": 1378.84, "end": 1384.44}, {"text": "consider how precious this placees and what a gift it is for everyone I can't", "start": 1384.44, "end": 1391.919}, {"text": "turn my back on it because I've held so many people that were healed and so many", "start": 1391.919, "end": 1398.4}, {"text": "people with a smile after they came to pray there so thank you for your time I", "start": 1398.4, "end": 1404.039}, {"text": "really pray that you consider this as a very very valuable", "start": 1404.039, "end": 1409.76}, {"text": "place thank you very much Angela do we have any questions for our", "start": 1409.76, "end": 1417.24}, {"text": "speaker and to to my fellow members I'm also very cognizant because of our speakers list that we might have", "start": 1417.24, "end": 1423.279}, {"text": "questions as we go along and so we'll have we can have a robust for all of our speakers at the end as well so we can go", "start": 1423.279, "end": 1428.64}, {"text": "back and forth and maybe that's sort of the best way forward so that we can give space for everybody to to be", "start": 1428.64, "end": 1435.52}, {"text": "heard the next on our am I able to ask question questions or no not at this moment sir thank you um we have our next", "start": 1435.52, "end": 1445}, {"text": "speaker um our next speaker um is roxan", "start": 1446.799, "end": 1453.96}, {"text": "rack good morning and I think you can come right right here and", "start": 1453.96, "end": 1461.4}, {"text": "I will reset this", "start": 1461.4, "end": 1467.08}, {"text": "all right guys once again my name is roxan rack um I believe that 3100", "start": 1476.64, "end": 1482.799}, {"text": "Western row should become Ontario Heritage act because of hundreds of physical and psychological Miracles I'm", "start": 1482.799, "end": 1490.08}, {"text": "one of them in 2010 November 21st I was in a catastrophic traumatic car accident", "start": 1490.08, "end": 1496.559}, {"text": "I was in aware uh reject from the rear window on the highway I needed a CPR", "start": 1496.559, "end": 1502.52}, {"text": "like right away immediately I was in a coma for 2 months I was my whole left side was", "start": 1502.52, "end": 1508.96}, {"text": "paralyzed I see can I can function normally right now at this point because of Western the miracle place and I", "start": 1508.96, "end": 1515.84}, {"text": "wasn't able to walk or communicate for approximately 5 months and I had three", "start": 1515.84, "end": 1520.88}, {"text": "brain skull surgeries on the right side and that's the main injury and then two", "start": 1520.88, "end": 1526.6}, {"text": "like surgeries on my fract Dr freemer the doctors told my family members that", "start": 1526.6, "end": 1532.039}, {"text": "I'll be nonfunctional and not communication my whole life so why keep me alive right however my dad had hope", "start": 1532.039, "end": 1540.44}, {"text": "that everything would be fine so he called Father Basil at the Western Marine Shrine of gratitude and right", "start": 1540.44, "end": 1547.039}, {"text": "away he came downstairs and he told the people who were there U Dominica and Carlo to take care of this place for a", "start": 1547.039, "end": 1552.919}, {"text": "few days because he's going to King antario to take care of me and to pray on top of me", "start": 1552.919, "end": 1560.24}, {"text": "and they said they'll take care of the western for a few days and then", "start": 1560.32, "end": 1566.88}, {"text": "um and then PA pasaz didn't have hesitation to be able to help so he drove many times to Kingston Ontario the", "start": 1566.88, "end": 1574.279}, {"text": "General Hospital four times in Trillium hospital at weekly with father myin as", "start": 1574.279, "end": 1579.76}, {"text": "well and there were many um individuals in the western Shrine that knew about me", "start": 1579.76, "end": 1586.08}, {"text": "and they prayed for hundreds uh times for many years for even today they pray", "start": 1586.08, "end": 1592.12}, {"text": "for me from the Western Shrine of gratitude and then the first when I was", "start": 1592.12, "end": 1597.96}, {"text": "released from the hospital was April 2011 I was in a wheelchair I was still", "start": 1597.96, "end": 1603.84}, {"text": "paralyzed my left side like on this side I had to take my right hand and pick it up to raise it so and then my parents", "start": 1603.84, "end": 1612.64}, {"text": "drove me to Weston the Marine Trine of gratitude after I left the hospital to", "start": 1612.64, "end": 1618.24}, {"text": "to show where there were a lot of masses and prayers toward me and when we went to the mother Mary", "start": 1618.24, "end": 1626.24}, {"text": "my dad said please take uh get up I'm like I can't walk I will be paralyzed my", "start": 1626.24, "end": 1631.44}, {"text": "whole life I won't be able to function as the doctor said right and then my dad said please take a", "start": 1631.44, "end": 1637.64}, {"text": "step so I that's when I rose up and I took one or two steps with assistance", "start": 1637.64, "end": 1643.84}, {"text": "that moment right and then I I couldn't believe it that I was up and I was", "start": 1643.84, "end": 1648.919}, {"text": "functioning as physically as a human being and then um week uh weekly I came", "start": 1648.919, "end": 1655.6}, {"text": "to visit Marine Shrine of gratitude and I need assistance by holding my dad's", "start": 1655.6, "end": 1660.88}, {"text": "hand or somebody else's hand right to walk to on the processions and eventually week by week I started to", "start": 1660.88, "end": 1669.76}, {"text": "improve and slowly I I even go there by myself now today right it's like 2010", "start": 1669.76, "end": 1674.919}, {"text": "it's like 14 years right it's a while right but I have a brain injury and uh fracture femur so I'm still uh doing", "start": 1674.919, "end": 1682.72}, {"text": "Rehabilitation however when I go to this place I feel like calmness and 2010 to", "start": 1682.72, "end": 1688.6}, {"text": "like 2015 I had a lot of insurance negativity and lawyer negativity toward", "start": 1688.6, "end": 1694.88}, {"text": "me and when I went to Weston basically all that disappeared I felt like a", "start": 1694.88, "end": 1700.519}, {"text": "calmness and a Silence of all the negative effects on me that people had", "start": 1700.519, "end": 1710.12}, {"text": "so as I mentioned in the beginning how like people get uh physically healed", "start": 1717.44, "end": 1724.6}, {"text": "there they are able to walk from like a cane without no cane and even from realair myself right and how they go", "start": 1724.6, "end": 1734.08}, {"text": "psychologically how I have like a calmness toward me when I enter that", "start": 1734.08, "end": 1739.399}, {"text": "place I get all the uh the side effects from life in general from work from", "start": 1739.399, "end": 1746.799}, {"text": "relationships all go away as I connect more with Mother Mary and God toward", "start": 1746.799, "end": 1753.679}, {"text": "me so I believe that Weston should be a Heritage Place so people have calmness", "start": 1753.679, "end": 1758.88}, {"text": "in their lives thank you thank you so much for joining us", "start": 1758.88, "end": 1765.039}, {"text": "today do any specific questions from my members for this particular", "start": 1765.039, "end": 1771.08}, {"text": "speaker seeing Nan we'll move on to Olga", "start": 1771.08, "end": 1776.08}, {"text": "Rubino welcome Olga you've got five minutes thank you good morning everyone", "start": 1778.96, "end": 1786}, {"text": "uh thank you for this opportunity I'm a retired French", "start": 1786, "end": 1791.76}, {"text": "imersion high school department head and supervising principal of Elementary International languages program with the", "start": 1791.76, "end": 1797.679}, {"text": "Toronto Catholic District School Board and I've served the community in", "start": 1797.679, "end": 1802.88}, {"text": "education for over 40 years so my first connection would be with uh with regards", "start": 1802.88, "end": 1808.44}, {"text": "to education to the property my other connection is also the uh Catholic faith", "start": 1808.44, "end": 1814.72}, {"text": "and the Miracles and that on a personal note my aunt uh esterina kagari who is", "start": 1814.72, "end": 1820.559}, {"text": "currently 97 years of age she was one of the original volunteers at the Maran", "start": 1820.559, "end": 1826.159}, {"text": "Shrine of gratitude and she worked there with uh many other people approximately", "start": 1826.159, "end": 1831.519}, {"text": "an original group of 20 people and she worked there as a volunteer for 17 years", "start": 1831.519, "end": 1837.84}, {"text": "and she herself had witnessed and been part of many of the Miracles that have taken place there so I'll first speak to", "start": 1837.84, "end": 1845.519}, {"text": "uh the um education piece um even though right now we're not dealing with the", "start": 1845.519, "end": 1850.919}, {"text": "chapel in the building but I did want to give a little bit of um my point of view on that so St pel the great College um", "start": 1850.919, "end": 1858.88}, {"text": "at 3100 Western Road was the first Catholic High School to serve the Northwestern area of", "start": 1858.88, "end": 1865.799}, {"text": "Toronto the red brick building was the original Catholic High School and", "start": 1865.799, "end": 1871.159}, {"text": "education and regular religious practices were held in the in the chapel research papers uh have shown the", "start": 1871.159, "end": 1879.44}, {"text": "historical evidence and importance of the uh Catholic Education movement in", "start": 1879.44, "end": 1885.12}, {"text": "the 1800s via the British North American America Act and the famous Tiny Township", "start": 1885.12, "end": 1891.32}, {"text": "case in 1925 and from there those that case uh", "start": 1891.32, "end": 1896.96}, {"text": "we have the creation of the Catholic school system in the province of Ontario which is historical and and unique so", "start": 1896.96, "end": 1904.76}, {"text": "the preservation of the chapel and the School honor this history now I'll go to my second point", "start": 1904.76, "end": 1911.12}, {"text": "the pray and personal affiliation a case to honor the historical importance of the tutor style building and Maran", "start": 1911.12, "end": 1918.279}, {"text": "Shrine and the Gazebo that's on the property as a personal place of prayer", "start": 1918.279, "end": 1923.84}, {"text": "and worship um even though uh the building", "start": 1923.84, "end": 1930}, {"text": "uh is the home of Ukrainian bazilian fathers affiliated with the Catholic faith however it is really a place that", "start": 1930, "end": 1936.32}, {"text": "serves the spiritual needs of everyone in the community anyone from near and", "start": 1936.32, "end": 1941.639}, {"text": "far and from any faith or cultural background anyone who requested spiritual uh support", "start": 1941.639, "end": 1948.399}, {"text": "and personal support um regardless of religion gender", "start": 1948.399, "end": 1954.48}, {"text": "nationality cultural background or affiliation all have always been welcome", "start": 1954.48, "end": 1961.039}, {"text": "many miracles have been recorded uh after prayer at the Marian Shrine and um", "start": 1961.039, "end": 1967.32}, {"text": "as I said my aunt the aunt esterina and about 20 uh original members um", "start": 1967.32, "end": 1974.44}, {"text": "witnessed Miracles um also um the property um much money was donated by", "start": 1974.44, "end": 1982}, {"text": "these original members and also by many people along the way so personal funds", "start": 1982, "end": 1987.84}, {"text": "historic icons uh Bible uh for the outdoor gazebo uh Free Labor all of that", "start": 1987.84, "end": 1994.2}, {"text": "was donated uh to the shrine for the good of the entire", "start": 1994.2, "end": 1999.799}, {"text": "Community um in the cultural power of the community and the common knowledge that's woven into the mindset of the", "start": 1999.799, "end": 2006.24}, {"text": "community the property is considered to be a public property with access to everyone not personal ownership of the", "start": 2006.24, "end": 2013.039}, {"text": "property for financial personal gain it's for the good of everyone in the community um on a physical moral and", "start": 2013.039, "end": 2019.96}, {"text": "spiritual level um so in conclusion um it's our", "start": 2019.96, "end": 2025.519}, {"text": "duty I feel as torontonians to maintain the site at 3100 Western Road to be", "start": 2025.519, "end": 2031.32}, {"text": "deemed as Heritage in its entirety the tutor style building the gardens the", "start": 2031.32, "end": 2036.559}, {"text": "shrine the Gaze the prayer room the school the chapel in the school the entire property uh because of the", "start": 2036.559, "end": 2043.679}, {"text": "importance that it holds for the entire community and the importance that it holds as a historical landmark um that's", "start": 2043.679, "end": 2051.32}, {"text": "indelible in uh the minds and hearts of the torontonians in the neighborhood", "start": 2051.32, "end": 2056.8}, {"text": "thank you thank you very much for your time here today next on our speaker list is Sam", "start": 2056.8, "end": 2066.118}, {"text": "aello and forgive me and please correct my", "start": 2066.119, "end": 2073.158}, {"text": "pronunciation is Sam here today online or yes good morning everyone I'm here", "start": 2074.879, "end": 2081.919}, {"text": "yes good morning you have five minutes my name ISO and I'm here today", "start": 2081.919, "end": 2088.398}, {"text": "to talk about the serial situation concerning the Maran stain of gratitude as aity site located at 3100 Western Ro", "start": 2088.399, "end": 2095.24}, {"text": "Toronto Canada today I would like to remember father B the founder of Maran train of gratitude and tell you a bit of", "start": 2095.24, "end": 2102.119}, {"text": "story so you can understand the reason of my presence here today on October 4 2004 one of the priests of the monastery", "start": 2102.119, "end": 2108.76}, {"text": "had a serious accident in the garden under the monastery the accident caused a perforation of one 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to Father Basel and I offer him my", "start": 2232.319, "end": 2239.44}, {"text": "help every time in hand to organize an event or to the renovation work at the right I will never be able to forget", "start": 2239.44, "end": 2246.8}, {"text": "father B old and the shrine because they help he helped me and the shrine help me so much morally and", "start": 2246.8, "end": 2254.44}, {"text": "spiritually I know how dear the strin was for him and for this reason I'm here today in honor of his", "start": 2254.44, "end": 2260.76}, {"text": "memory and the love that he had for Maran strin of gratitude the Trine was", "start": 2260.76, "end": 2266.359}, {"text": "and I hope it will be again a piece of paradise and refuge for many Souls from Toronto from all around the world even", "start": 2266.359, "end": 2273.16}, {"text": "the famous bch of marari Emanuel from Australia came all the way from Australia to visit Father Basil and to", "start": 2273.16, "end": 2278.88}, {"text": "visit this rain the mar Maran train of gratitude", "start": 2278.88, "end": 2284.28}, {"text": "was only a place of Miracles and hope this train was a important place for the", "start": 2284.28, "end": 2289.92}, {"text": "Youth for the Youth of the local community and all the Toronto area and surrounding Angela carbon and father B", "start": 2289.92, "end": 2297.119}, {"text": "every year used to organize Catholic youth day every and thousand of kids", "start": 2297.119, "end": 2302.2}, {"text": "from all country schools around Toronto attended the event it was a beautiful", "start": 2302.2, "end": 2307.28}, {"text": "day of praying singing and happiness and I hope this this events will continue in the future the Min St of gratitude was a", "start": 2307.28, "end": 2314.319}, {"text": "beon hope and I hope it will be again for many and I believe that 22,000 people that signed the petition for this", "start": 2314.319, "end": 2320.8}, {"text": "matter on behalf of the 22,000 people and myself as to 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"connection with my Catholic Church at St Timothy's in Orangeville and a successful career in real real estate um", "start": 2418.119, "end": 2425.079}, {"text": "I was able to beat my battle with alcoholism all this was given to me as a gift from", "start": 2425.079, "end": 2430.119}, {"text": "God and the mar and Shrine was one of the key places where I develop excuse me", "start": 2430.119, "end": 2435.28}, {"text": "my foundation and my walk with the Lord I was also able to bring my future family to visit the shrine and was", "start": 2435.28, "end": 2441.319}, {"text": "fortunate enough to have them share in this miraculous place I know without a doubt the shrine has had a large imprint", "start": 2441.319, "end": 2448.119}, {"text": "on my life and I also believe that the shrine has help many others like me and can continue to help many others in the", "start": 2448.119, "end": 2455.4}, {"text": "future in similar crisis situ situations um I hope that the decision makers and people elected in power find", "start": 2455.4, "end": 2462.079}, {"text": "it in their hearts to keep this miraculous Marine Shrine open and available and uh I have time here I just", "start": 2462.079, "end": 2469.24}, {"text": "want to mention um on another note like I just think that you know if there's", "start": 2469.24, "end": 2474.8}, {"text": "any way maybe that people can work together to try to um you know", "start": 2474.8, "end": 2480.119}, {"text": "accomplish everything and and still be able to keep the shrine and have the the person or the The Entity that purchased", "start": 2480.119, "end": 2487.359}, {"text": "the property coexist because there's always ways to work things out right and it you know as you know like it's on a", "start": 2487.359, "end": 2493.68}, {"text": "hill and I don't think anything else can really be built on that Hill um they could easily in my opinion just work", "start": 2493.68, "end": 2500.44}, {"text": "around it and still have the shrine 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{"text": "no property stands with this world of Heritage value as an elected official I am entrusted to protect people's needs", "start": 2746.839, "end": 2754.88}, {"text": "and I'm here to represent a number of of my constituents from mobico lakir and Parkdale High Park the Maran Shrine of", "start": 2754.88, "end": 2762.079}, {"text": "gratitude is the heritage of new Toronto which includes Multicultural multiethnic", "start": 2762.079, "end": 2768.079}, {"text": "multifaith communities where people found spirituality spirituality and", "start": 2768.079, "end": 2773.44}, {"text": "where the shrine is our heritage now the ashal pathway from the parking", "start": 2773.44, "end": 2779.44}, {"text": "lot to the shrine is a significant part of our heritage demonstrating that it", "start": 2779.44, "end": 2784.52}, {"text": "was public and accessible to everyone in Toronto until recently Toronto is one of", "start": 2784.52, "end": 2790.28}, {"text": "the most diverse cities in the world and the Maran Shrine of gratitude is an", "start": 2790.28, "end": 2795.48}, {"text": "integral part of the park system that welcomes visitors from all backgrounds", "start": 2795.48, "end": 2801.2}, {"text": "it is important that the site reopens to the public while the community", "start": 2801.2, "end": 2807.72}, {"text": "appreciates that the Toronto preservation board recommends designating riverid", "start": 2807.72, "end": 2813.599}, {"text": "Cottage under the Ontario Heritage Act certain physical elements including the", "start": 2813.599, "end": 2819.04}, {"text": "stone fireplace historic wooden paneling and Dev views from the cottage to the pond behind the community asks to", "start": 2819.04, "end": 2827.8}, {"text": "reconsider the entire site at 3100 Western Road for a Heritage designation", "start": 2827.8, "end": 2834.48}, {"text": "to preserve its historical and cultural significance as per the motion submitted", "start": 2834.48, "end": 2840.52}, {"text": "by councelor perua and councelor Pastak in 2023 thank you very much you reached", "start": 2840.52, "end": 2847.599}, {"text": "your will accommodate its people thank you thank you very much for your time", "start": 2847.599, "end": 2853.24}, {"text": "today next on our list is Marsha", "start": 2853.24, "end": 2859.119}, {"text": "claridad is Marca with us", "start": 2864.079, "end": 2868.119}, {"text": "today no well", "start": 2871.64, "end": 2877.359}, {"text": "Sean she's online perfect on a sec sorry oh we have just", "start": 2877.359, "end": 2884.96}, {"text": "give me a moment please one of those lovely technical hiccups as we balance", "start": 2884.96, "end": 2891.599}, {"text": "hybrid okay good morning everybody Mara you're", "start": 2891.599, "end": 2897.44}, {"text": "getting a little bit of feedback okay I will just try to turn", "start": 2897.44, "end": 2902.839}, {"text": "off my video and uh be on my", "start": 2902.839, "end": 2908.76}, {"text": "I'll try to stay a 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community the people who make it special and the places and events that help make Emory such a", "start": 2999.48, "end": 3006.4}, {"text": "wonderful place to call home our distribution is via Canada Post to every", "start": 3006.4, "end": 3012.88}, {"text": "area home are 3200 businesses in Canada's largest industrial area and is", "start": 3012.88, "end": 3018.799}, {"text": "comprised of Steels Avenue South to Highway 401 and Border by the Hur River", "start": 3018.799, "end": 3024.119}, {"text": "and the 400 highway to the east today I stand before you to advocate for", "start": 3024.119, "end": 3030.319}, {"text": "the designation of the Maran Shrine of gratitude and the historic River me Cottage property of 3100 Western Road as", "start": 3030.319, "end": 3037.76}, {"text": "Heritage sites my wish is and I believe that of the community extends Beyond", "start": 3037.76, "end": 3043.68}, {"text": "protecting the spiritual significance of the shrine but seeks to preserve the entire property including the remarkable", "start": 3043.68, "end": 3051.24}, {"text": "examples of tutor style architecture this style characterized by", "start": 3051.24, "end": 3056.839}, {"text": "distinctive steeply pitched Gable roofs tall uh narrow windows and prominent", "start": 3056.839, "end": 3062.44}, {"text": "decorative chimneys is increasingly rare in our Urban landscape the tutor", "start": 3062.44, "end": 3068.2}, {"text": "architectural elements of riverme cottage not only add aesthetic value but", "start": 3068.2, "end": 3073.4}, {"text": "also Windows into the design preferences of Toronto's early 20th century Elite so", "start": 3073.4, "end": 3080.72}, {"text": "such architectures offers us a tangible connection to our City's past", "start": 3080.72, "end": 3087}, {"text": "uh and providing context and depth to our understanding of the historical", "start": 3087, "end": 3092.119}, {"text": "lifestyle and building practices in 1958 this property was entrusted to the", "start": 3092.119, "end": 3097.92}, {"text": "Ukrainian basilian brothers who transformed it into a sanctuary of peace and prayer among the ancient trees and", "start": 3097.92, "end": 3104.68}, {"text": "meticulously maintained Gardens they established the Maran Shrine of", "start": 3104.68, "end": 3110}, {"text": "gratitude which has since become the Cornerstone of spiritual life in our Emer Community the sh set against the", "start": 3110, "end": 3117.559}, {"text": "backdrop of the EM of the riverme cottage symbolizes the community between", "start": 3117.559, "end": 3123.559}, {"text": "our past and presence reflecting our commitment to preserving spaces that offer", "start": 3123.559, "end": 3128.92}, {"text": "tranquility and reflection our transformation of the site over the years has been", "start": 3128.92, "end": 3134.76}, {"text": "thoughtfully and inclusively managed the conversion of the former pool house to a", "start": 3134.76, "end": 3140.4}, {"text": "chapel uh and filling in the swimming pool to make way for Stations of the Cross have made this sacred Place fully", "start": 3140.4, "end": 3148.119}, {"text": "accessible allowing everyone to participate in its offering the Emory", "start": 3148.119, "end": 3153.48}, {"text": "Village Voice has published over 30 articles related to 3100 Western Road", "start": 3153.48, "end": 3159.64}, {"text": "these pieces have not only enriched our community's knowledge of its historical background but also highlighted the", "start": 3159.64, "end": 3166.76}, {"text": "dedicated storytelling of residents like Edith George and Tim lambrinos our", "start": 3166.76, "end": 3172.92}, {"text": "historian whose efforts help keep our Collective memory memories alive the", "start": 3172.92, "end": 3178.4}, {"text": "significance of this site extends Beyond its physical boundaries our community", "start": 3178.4, "end": 3183.76}, {"text": "has shown profound support for the shrine through through numerous vigils and public appeals", "start": 3183.76, "end": 3190.4}, {"text": "especially when his future was under threat from property sales and potential closures which did indeed happen these", "start": 3190.4, "end": 3197.28}, {"text": "actions highlight the deep emotional and spiritual connections to our many in our", "start": 3197.28, "end": 3202.92}, {"text": "community that share this place however recent developments have put the shrine at risk obviously raising significant", "start": 3202.92, "end": 3210.24}, {"text": "concerns about continued Public Access which Now does not exist and the preservation of the site's historical", "start": 3210.24, "end": 3217.16}, {"text": "and spiritual aspects I urge the Toronto Heritage committee to consider these", "start": 3217.16, "end": 3222.319}, {"text": "points and the robust community support for preserving both rme Cottage and the", "start": 3222.319, "end": 3227.72}, {"text": "Maran Shrine of gratitude thank you for your attention and consideration let's", "start": 3227.72, "end": 3232.96}, {"text": "ensure that the Maran Shrine of gratitude and River meat Cottage are not only preserved as Treasures of the past", "start": 3232.96, "end": 3240.079}, {"text": "but they can continue to be a vibrant and living part of our community's", "start": 3240.079, "end": 3245.4}, {"text": "future thank you thank you very much for your time um are we able to we'll try Marsha", "start": 3245.4, "end": 3256.318}, {"text": "again all right uh moving on to Sonia dagostino", "start": 3258.64, "end": 3265.119}, {"text": "Sonia she", "start": 3270.079, "end": 3273.319}, {"text": "online she's not online at the moment but if she pops back up we'll make sure that she has space to speak as well the", "start": 3278.319, "end": 3284.599}, {"text": "next on my list is Jay Mckellan", "start": 3284.599, "end": 3289.2}, {"text": "welcome Jay you have five minutes thank you um I moved in yeah uh near the", "start": 3299.4, "end": 3306.96}, {"text": "shrine I moved in there um about three years ago didn't even know the shrine existed I looked on Google and saw it I", "start": 3306.96, "end": 3313.76}, {"text": "I made a plan to go see it uh 3 days later I I finally stuck to that plan", "start": 3313.76, "end": 3319.119}, {"text": "unfortunately was in the middle of a severe winter storm it's late at night about 2:00 in the morning um the man Ive", "start": 3319.119, "end": 3326.319}, {"text": "moved into that house with I found out afterwards um was a priest he didn't tell me if he was Catholic or Christian", "start": 3326.319, "end": 3333.839}, {"text": "um so I told him I was going to the shrine I just wanted him to know cuz I have a bad heart and I'm at high risk", "start": 3333.839, "end": 3339.4}, {"text": "for stroke um so just in case I didn't come back he could walk down the the", "start": 3339.4, "end": 3344.559}, {"text": "path to find me it wasn't far from the the house and uh I told him my intent was just to 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hurts um so I walked up the stairs and where the", "start": 3434.079, "end": 3440.72}, {"text": "statue of Jesus was and I said my prayer for them and I came back down and when I came back down I noticed some of those", "start": 3440.72, "end": 3447.16}, {"text": "lights were blinking again and that's when I walked past it and the lights were going off they weren't going on as", "start": 3447.16, "end": 3452.64}, {"text": "I was walking past that's when I realize they're not motion lights and uh I'm", "start": 3452.64, "end": 3458}, {"text": "very spiritual I've been doing things like this just opening my Bible at random times ever since I was a child", "start": 3458, "end": 3464.839}, {"text": "and when I open it it specifically tells me something of nature in my life that", "start": 3464.839, "end": 3470.92}, {"text": "is happening right at that time it's just it's like God guides my finger and that's the same thing that happen", "start": 3470.92, "end": 3476.2}, {"text": "happened when I went to that Temple I opened up that bible and it said the law of the temple is going to be restored by", "start": 3476.2, "end": 3482.079}, {"text": "the Lord I took a lot of Courage for me to phone up and ask about these lights", "start": 3482.079, "end": 3487.359}, {"text": "and if they were solar lights I just had to know CU I I knew in my heart it was God and I've gone through these things", "start": 3487.359, "end": 3493.72}, {"text": "before and I've seen spiritual things happen like this and I spoke to a lady", "start": 3493.72, "end": 3498.76}, {"text": "there I guess that might have been Angie Carbone who was uh on on online and uh", "start": 3498.76, "end": 3505.039}, {"text": "I've never met anybody here and I guess maybe with my intent going there to have everybody get closer to Jesus might not", "start": 3505.039, "end": 3511.92}, {"text": "have been the greatest thing at a Catholic shrine but Temple means Shrine and that's exactly where I opened my my", "start": 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minutes good morning thank you for making uh the time for all of us to say", "start": 3643.64, "end": 3649.88}, {"text": "our piece and I'll try my best not to be repetitive I think everybody has their own story that's the truth of their", "start": 3649.88, "end": 3655.52}, {"text": "heart um for myself I moved into the area in", "start": 3655.52, "end": 3662.2}, {"text": "2019 and um some family difficulties with my mother-in-law who was diagnosed with cancer through a a friend he told", "start": 3662.2, "end": 3669.4}, {"text": "me about the Maring Trin of gratitude and I've always gone to Fatima and I've always gone uh to many different uh", "start": 3669.4, "end": 3675.319}, {"text": "religious places like Midland and uh when I went there I was completely amazed and how beautiful this place was", "start": 3675.319, "end": 3682.72}, {"text": "right in the heart of of the city Wester Ronan Shepherd no need to travel far away when I", "start": 3682.72, "end": 3688.16}, {"text": "learned more about the place to hear that Cardinal Collins visited that place", "start": 3688.16, "end": 3694.24}, {"text": "and had Mass there many priests have had Mass there schools have had trips where", "start": 3694.24, "end": 3701}, {"text": "they brought their kids there and spent half a day there there's people that come from outside of Toronto outside of", "start": 3701, "end": 3708.359}, {"text": "Ontario and outside of Canada there's people that's been documented from the states where they came to visit this", "start": 3708.359, "end": 3713.72}, {"text": "place here and um for myself when I would go there praying", "start": 3713.72, "end": 3718.799}, {"text": "for many people I found it as a place of Solace a place where I can just sit back", "start": 3718.799, "end": 3723.88}, {"text": "and just you know borderl meditate and just be with my thoughts and many people", "start": 3723.88, "end": 3729.92}, {"text": "would say this is a religious site specifically for Catholics 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4059.839}, {"text": "hoping that it can still maintain its necessary status as what it is today", "start": 4059.839, "end": 4065.64}, {"text": "thank you and God bless you all for my time thank you so very much for your", "start": 4065.64, "end": 4071.96}, {"text": "time next we have Joshua belli", "start": 4071.96, "end": 4077.359}, {"text": "Joshua no I uh I don't have that", "start": 4082.799, "end": 4090.76}, {"text": "name no that my the next name on my list is Joshua", "start": 4091.76, "end": 4097.52}, {"text": "belli not online all right it's not online is Mara back", "start": 4103.64, "end": 4113.52}, {"text": "online no okay now uh counselor Anthony pruta welcome thank you for joining us", "start": 4115.199, "end": 4122.64}, {"text": "your turn it's my turn Okay uh first of all I", "start": 4122.64, "end": 4129.64}, {"text": "I want to start off by uh really um uh thanking uh you folks uh in in the", "start": 4129.64, "end": 4135.92}, {"text": "preservation board and specifically Lissa uh for an amazing and thorough", "start": 4135.92, "end": 4141.719}, {"text": "report uh that you have in front of you today uh and I'm hoping that you will uh", "start": 4141.719, "end": 4149.08}, {"text": "move her their her recommendations here or staff recommendations uh which fundamentally", "start": 4149.08, "end": 4156.4}, {"text": "do uh a couple of things one um look at River meat C uh Cottage", "start": 4156.4, "end": 4164.04}, {"text": "and or river Meat House and the Vista uh and say you know what it meets six of", "start": 4164.04, "end": 4170.04}, {"text": "the nine uh uh um you know designation criteria and should be uh designated um", "start": 4170.04, "end": 4177.4}, {"text": "uh and that's that's wonderful um in my view I've read this and it it I I'm a", "start": 4177.4, "end": 4183.199}, {"text": "simpleton and I I would check off all nine but uh that's just me but you only need two six is good um and that's fine", "start": 4183.199, "end": 4191.48}, {"text": "and I also want to thank her for recognizing the entire site and its", "start": 4191.48, "end": 4198.239}, {"text": "importance um not only from a Heritage", "start": 4198.239, "end": 4203.28}, {"text": "perspective and essentially extending the bylaw over the entire site um for", "start": 4203.28, "end": 4209.92}, {"text": "the time being until there is a a further opportunity to take a look at", "start": 4209.92, "end": 4215.32}, {"text": "some of the other elements like the chapel the school uh and the and the", "start": 4215.32, "end": 4220.719}, {"text": "rest of of the property and do uh a sort of a proper and thorough", "start": 4220.719, "end": 4225.88}, {"text": "assessment of it for its Heritage value uh because that also speaks to something else that we all instinctively know uh", "start": 4225.88, "end": 4234.239}, {"text": "who have you know lived in that area and and continue to call that place home uh", "start": 4234.239, "end": 4239.76}, {"text": "that this site is fundamentally important to all of us at the center of the community of sorts and and certainly", "start": 4239.76, "end": 4247.159}, {"text": "very much uh in our hearts and Minds um having said that I just want to", "start": 4247.159, "end": 4253.28}, {"text": "turn my mind to and and I'm hoping that you support those recommendations cuz that's that's what they will do uh and", "start": 4253.28, "end": 4259.88}, {"text": "we will all be very happy with that I just want to turn my mind uh for a second to the to the", "start": 4259.88, "end": 4267.4}, {"text": "shrine um so when the property was in transition to be sold I attended several", "start": 4267.4, "end": 4274.28}, {"text": "events before that happened uh at The Shrine where hundreds of people had", "start": 4274.28, "end": 4279.48}, {"text": "gathered and I and I I'm just going to speak to that uh connection uh in in a", "start": 4279.48, "end": 4285.84}, {"text": "second uh but I also want to say something else to you that while there is a an assessment of the shrine and a", "start": 4285.84, "end": 4292.64}, {"text": "bit of a history in the report uh uh which you've all taken a look at", "start": 4292.64, "end": 4298.96}, {"text": "um the shrine holds a very very special place as you've as you've heard uh and", "start": 4298.96, "end": 4306.44}, {"text": "in the minds and hearts of a great many people Toronto preservation board is", "start": 4306.44, "end": 4313.08}, {"text": "sitting here today in the shrine uh has been um uh a place of worship and", "start": 4313.08, "end": 4319.96}, {"text": "attendance for the past 17 18 years and while that may seem like a very very short history uh and the and to think", "start": 4319.96, "end": 4327.88}, {"text": "and and and I want to go back to my attendance at the site where where I I", "start": 4327.88, "end": 4333}, {"text": "witnessed firsthand the connection that people have", "start": 4333, "end": 4338.44}, {"text": "spiritually to this place and the bond therein it's not not", "start": 4338.44, "end": 4345.44}, {"text": "one you can break so while the bazilian fathers in", "start": 4345.44, "end": 4352.6}, {"text": "their last day on their way out the new group were trying to throw cold", "start": 4352.6, "end": 4360.44}, {"text": "water on people's spiritual beliefs by taking away uh the statues and some of", "start": 4360.44, "end": 4367.56}, {"text": "the other symbols that made up the", "start": 4367.56, "end": 4372.28}, {"text": "shrine let me let me give you another another example the Romans the way they thought they were", "start": 4373.08, "end": 4378.56}, {"text": "going to Snuff out Christianity was by taking Christians and feeding them to the Lions and the", "start": 4378.56, "end": 4383.6}, {"text": "Coliseum how well did that go for them it didn't Jesus Lives he's here", "start": 4383.6, "end": 4392.36}, {"text": "amongst us today the bazilian fathers or the new", "start": 4392.36, "end": 4397.92}, {"text": "owners trying to throw cold water on a spiritual belief will have", "start": 4397.92, "end": 4405.4}, {"text": "the same effect that fire will burn brighter and hotter going", "start": 4405.4, "end": 4412.48}, {"text": "forward so there will be a preservation board and and while you look at it and you say anterior regulation", "start": 4412.48, "end": 4419.239}, {"text": "906 you know doesn't really sort of allow us to take a look at the shrine", "start": 4419.239, "end": 4425.32}, {"text": "per se or or the some of the chattles and things that have been removed from the shrine and fully", "start": 4425.32, "end": 4432.12}, {"text": "assessed I say to you this a 100 years from now a a preservation board is going to be", "start": 4432.12, "end": 4437.36}, {"text": "sitting here and you know what the shrine will continue to exist so we can", "start": 4437.36, "end": 4443.28}, {"text": "recognize it recognize it early and recognize it for all of its Merit or we", "start": 4443.28, "end": 4449}, {"text": "can just simply continue on but it will continue on as well the owner should", "start": 4449, "end": 4454.28}, {"text": "know that you should know that and I think everybody else here understands", "start": 4454.28, "end": 4459.32}, {"text": "that so uh I I hope you include that as well thank you very much and and the last thing I want to say I'd like to", "start": 4459.32, "end": 4465.4}, {"text": "invite all the good people that have taken the time to come out here today uh to my office for some refreshments at the end of this okay so please you're", "start": 4465.4, "end": 4471.48}, {"text": "all welcome thank you very much counselor thank you next on our list is", "start": 4471.48, "end": 4477.28}, {"text": "Samuel Babs thank you to speak today can you", "start": 4477.28, "end": 4484.679}, {"text": "hear me sure can you've got five minutes perfect Mary McDonald's preservation", "start": 4484.679, "end": 4491.36}, {"text": "board members ladies and gentlemen uh I stand before you today today to address an issue that highlights a trouble and", "start": 4491.36, "end": 4497.56}, {"text": "lack of transparency fairness and honesty from our city authorities more importantly I believe", "start": 4497.56, "end": 4504.239}, {"text": "this matter reviews deeper systemic inequities uh including racial bias that", "start": 4504.239, "end": 4510.08}, {"text": "have influenced the action taken against me and this property the property", "start": 4510.08, "end": 4515.52}, {"text": "question located at 3100 Western Road has been at the center of this controversy for eight years the city", "start": 4515.52, "end": 4522.719}, {"text": "refrained from designating this property Heritage desperate ample of opportunity to do so why it is evident that the", "start": 4522.719, "end": 4530.84}, {"text": "closing relationship between the city and the previous owner of the church influenced this delay conveniently", "start": 4530.84, "end": 4538.28}, {"text": "ensuring no impact on the church property prior to closing on of the", "start": 4538.28, "end": 4543.8}, {"text": "property the city is well aware had this property been designated earlier prior", "start": 4543.8, "end": 4549.84}, {"text": "to closing it would affect the sellability and the value of the property", "start": 4549.84, "end": 4555.84}, {"text": "the Clos the relationship between the city and the church goes back in time starting with the city leased the", "start": 4555.84, "end": 4561.36}, {"text": "community center on the property 20 years ago and another property at 23", "start": 4561.36, "end": 4568}, {"text": "View Lane edes to the city's property at 60 STV Lane which is the city which the", "start": 4568, "end": 4574.36}, {"text": "city purchased in 2015 in March 2024 the city entered into", "start": 4574.36, "end": 4579.84}, {"text": "an easement agreement on the church property at 20 star bill Bill Lane", "start": 4579.84, "end": 4585.88}, {"text": "paying a sum of $1.7 million plus additional $700,000 to use part of the", "start": 4585.88, "end": 4591.92}, {"text": "church land for park for parking spaces yet desperate the significant", "start": 4591.92, "end": 4597.679}, {"text": "transaction the city's clear involvement with the church the property at 3100", "start": 4597.679, "end": 4603.239}, {"text": "Western Road remained undesignated as Heritage for years why was this designation suddenly pursued after my", "start": 4603.239, "end": 4610.36}, {"text": "involvement this is this this this timeline raises serious concerns about racial motivations and unequal treatment", "start": 4610.36, "end": 4618.199}, {"text": "under the law on August 22nd 2023 a close on the", "start": 4618.199, "end": 4623.84}, {"text": "property astonishingly two days later August 24th 2023 the city the the", "start": 4623.84, "end": 4630.04}, {"text": "Toronto Cathy School Board sent out an email urging government agencies both", "start": 4630.04, "end": 4635.44}, {"text": "provincially and Municipal to support the Heritage designation of the property", "start": 4635.44, "end": 4641.28}, {"text": "by September 1st 2023 the multilingual news paper published a note claiming", "start": 4641.28, "end": 4647.8}, {"text": "that a motion to designate this property had already been introduced however this", "start": 4647.8, "end": 4653.6}, {"text": "information was inaccurate as the motion was officially introduced on September 6", "start": 4653.6, "end": 4659.48}, {"text": "2023 this action may this actions make it evident that the city and the council", "start": 4659.48, "end": 4665.92}, {"text": "man had predetermined the outcome before my closing on August 22nd I was misled", "start": 4665.92, "end": 4673.36}, {"text": "throughout this process due to lack of transparency at no point prior to", "start": 4673.36, "end": 4678.56}, {"text": "closing was this critical information disclosed to me this failure to disclose", "start": 4678.56, "end": 4683.96}, {"text": "constitute a lack of honesty and transparency and fairness more disturbingly this reveals lack of equal", "start": 4683.96, "end": 4691.159}, {"text": "application of the law potentially influenced my racial potentially influenced by my racial background I'm", "start": 4691.159, "end": 4698.08}, {"text": "black this is not only unjust but also breach of principles of fairness and", "start": 4698.08, "end": 4704.44}, {"text": "equal equality enshrined in the Canadian chars of right and freedoms the city's delay designation", "start": 4704.44, "end": 4712.639}, {"text": "efforts and subsequent action have directly negatively impacted the", "start": 4712.639, "end": 4717.8}, {"text": "property's marketability desperate the fact that the church itself had dismantled The Shrine in", "start": 4717.8, "end": 4724.32}, {"text": "question and desperate the fact that other entities such as winipeg church", "start": 4724.32, "end": 4729.48}, {"text": "and Rome do not even recognize the shrine the city moves swiftly to 7 days", "start": 4729.48, "end": 4736.719}, {"text": "after closing to push forward the", "start": 4736.719, "end": 4741.84}, {"text": "designation why the certain urgency this time is combined with failures to act", "start": 4741.84, "end": 4747.239}, {"text": "for years beforehand this strongly suggest a bias", "start": 4747.239, "end": 4752.48}, {"text": "in how I as a person of color have been treated in comparison to others this", "start": 4752.48, "end": 4759.92}, {"text": "issue goes beyond one property it speaks to systemic iniquities racial motivation", "start": 4759.92, "end": 4765.679}, {"text": "and lack of impartiality in making decisions the city's Clos a relationship with the church the previous owner", "start": 4765.679, "end": 4772.84}, {"text": "coupled with its desperate treatment desp desperate treatment of me", "start": 4772.84, "end": 4779.32}, {"text": "undermines the public trust in our institutions and their ability to uphold fairness and justice for all citizens", "start": 4779.32, "end": 4785.8}, {"text": "regardless of race I call on the city to address these concerns and provide a", "start": 4785.8, "end": 4790.96}, {"text": "accountability not just for me but for the Integrity of our processes and the", "start": 4790.96, "end": 4796.08}, {"text": "principle of fearness and equality that every citizens deserve it is time to confirm systemic", "start": 4796.08, "end": 4802.92}, {"text": "inequalities and ensure such actions are never repeated thank very much Mr Babs", "start": 4802.92, "end": 4808.76}, {"text": "your comes with huge legal ramifications thank you thank you very M much Mr Babs", "start": 4808.76, "end": 4814.96}, {"text": "for joining us today we have two more speakers uh you", "start": 4814.96, "end": 4820.08}, {"text": "of Mirabel", "start": 4820.08, "end": 4823.28}, {"text": "welcome you have five minutes good", "start": 4826.56, "end": 4832.239}, {"text": "morning good morning and peace brothers and sisters it's the way I see you all", "start": 4832.239, "end": 4837.719}, {"text": "um at the end uh and at the beginning the beginning at the end", "start": 4837.719, "end": 4842.92}, {"text": "um a religious place that give hopes to the people to the community but it's", "start": 4842.92, "end": 4849.199}, {"text": "beautiful to see that a shrine starts with an act of a a miracle something", "start": 4849.199, "end": 4855.44}, {"text": "that happens that motivates or a message that comes to a person that creates a", "start": 4855.44, "end": 4861.6}, {"text": "place for others to come and seek for something seek for something that if you", "start": 4861.6, "end": 4867.36}, {"text": "don't have in your heart what is required you won't be finding it but", "start": 4867.36, "end": 4873.52}, {"text": "it's important that you look at it the way that it was a shrine created and thousands of people had come well it was", "start": 4873.52, "end": 4880.96}, {"text": "the first miracle and I think I'm the last one of of the days not the last one that is going to happen is I am this", "start": 4880.96, "end": 4888.88}, {"text": "last miracle uh a few days ago I was contact by a friend and asked they asked", "start": 4888.88, "end": 4895.199}, {"text": "me for help to come and uh you know to help with this this beautiful cause and", "start": 4895.199, "end": 4901.08}, {"text": "I am a religious person I have a de conversion about nine months ago and uh", "start": 4901.08, "end": 4907.56}, {"text": "from a big path of my life of being lost being a struggling and being making", "start": 4907.56, "end": 4913.96}, {"text": "mistakes I've been saved by my Lord his presence Jesus and uh Christ I can", "start": 4913.96, "end": 4920.239}, {"text": "testify that and by the mother his mother and it's beautiful how she has called me to not only to come over here", "start": 4920.239, "end": 4929.04}, {"text": "in dreams but ended up going yesterday in 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rosary and the", "start": 4983.32, "end": 4988.92}, {"text": "sky was open and the sun Came Upon me and they can do whatever they want as", "start": 4988.92, "end": 4995.36}, {"text": "you said before Mother Mary is right there and people can go and I will go", "start": 4995.36, "end": 5002}, {"text": "and it's amazing to see that we were not the only ones present we were an 85 year", "start": 5002, "end": 5008.52}, {"text": "old men Miracle it a a a lady a woman that I met", "start": 5008.52, "end": 5015.12}, {"text": "with such a passion as Angie that she has put everything in place and in her", "start": 5015.12, "end": 5021}, {"text": "heart because he by command we don't act in what everybody", "start": 5021, "end": 5028.159}, {"text": "will act we act on faith and by command a spiritual command the Lord tell us", "start": 5028.159, "end": 5033.56}, {"text": "what to do our mother Mary tell us what to do and I've been told to come in here", "start": 5033.56, "end": 5039.44}, {"text": "today I wouldn't do this for myself I'm an own game I wouldn't do this but I", "start": 5039.44, "end": 5044.92}, {"text": "come in here to you to tell you that it is really important because I went", "start": 5044.92, "end": 5051.199}, {"text": "yesterday there and I have gained hope love light and truth and the strength to", "start": 5051.199, "end": 5059.88}, {"text": "come and speak to all of you and thank you all for your time for your", "start": 5059.88, "end": 5065.76}, {"text": "beautiful because I can feel it your feelings your thoughts your questions but you know what it's a miracle that", "start": 5065.76, "end": 5073.36}, {"text": "I'm in here talking to all of you without being nervous without being", "start": 5073.36, "end": 5079.08}, {"text": "justifying the cause I had nothing to gain nothing to lose I don't know most", "start": 5079.08, "end": 5085.56}, {"text": "of the people here but I can tell you this city needs that Shrine we this word", "start": 5085.56, "end": 5092.8}, {"text": "needs that shrine I need that Shrine and I'm a common single citizen that will", "start": 5092.8, "end": 5099.92}, {"text": "nobody know because I seek nothing I only seek my", "start": 5099.92, "end": 5105.56}, {"text": "Lord and my mother thank you very much to all of you and please save the shrine", "start": 5105.56, "end": 5111.48}, {"text": "but not only the shrine this is a year proclaimed by our Pope and by our church", "start": 5111.48, "end": 5117.96}, {"text": "it's a year of Hope pilgrams of Hope is a jubilee year which is Hope", "start": 5117.96, "end": 5124.92}, {"text": "that keep us going hope in our city hope in our politicians hope in our brothers", "start": 5124.92, "end": 5131.76}, {"text": "and sisters we need to work together I think we had the chance here it is when", "start": 5131.76, "end": 5138.32}, {"text": "you give hope to people you are giving people love and then our Lord when you", "start": 5138.32, "end": 5145.56}, {"text": "give love to people the Lord is there Jesus you very much thank you very much to all of", "start": 5145.56, "end": 5151.84}, {"text": "you sorry I just want I don't know just want to throw in like nobody's gonna address the fact that Mr B I'm gonna", "start": 5151.84, "end": 5159}, {"text": "give us time we're going to have some questions and then so how this is going to run we have one more speaker and then", "start": 5159, "end": 5164.36}, {"text": "we'll have questions of our speaker from the members of the board and then we'll direct some questions towards staff and", "start": 5164.36, "end": 5170.48}, {"text": "what um we've listened really intently and I I I was going to say this at the end but to all of the deput thank you so", "start": 5170.48, "end": 5177.8}, {"text": "much for your time uh for your honesty you've come here and you've been um", "start": 5177.8, "end": 5182.88}, {"text": "you've done something very vulnerable and that's not lost on all of us and that goes towards all the speakers so thank you so we taken everything that", "start": 5182.88, "end": 5190.04}, {"text": "we've heard and the members who have been listening will then be able to direct appropriate questions to staff in", "start": 5190.04, "end": 5197.08}, {"text": "order to D um address some of the issues that have come up today with respect to", "start": 5197.08, "end": 5202.52}, {"text": "the matter before us under the Heritage act so that's that's how things that work and so I further Ado we'll take to", "start": 5202.52, "end": 5210.56}, {"text": "Joe duza who is our final speaker on the list today welcome Joe you have five", "start": 5210.56, "end": 5218.84}, {"text": "minutes I'm just going to say what's in my heart okay the", "start": 5222.159, "end": 5228.48}, {"text": "shrine I've I've received so many Graces", "start": 5228.48, "end": 5234.4}, {"text": "there it is such a peaceful place and", "start": 5234.4, "end": 5240}, {"text": "uh I'm begging you all the committee members to bring back the sign to us we need", "start": 5240, "end": 5249.719}, {"text": "it and I've taken a lot of friends down there who were sick who had emotional", "start": 5249.719, "end": 5258.719}, {"text": "problems and they have been all helped", "start": 5258.719, "end": 5265.119}, {"text": "their their sicknesses and whatever they had it's all gone mother Mary and Jesus", "start": 5265.119, "end": 5274.4}, {"text": "Jesus and mother Mary is always there for us I'm pleading with you all to", "start": 5274.4, "end": 5282}, {"text": "please bring the shrine to", "start": 5282, "end": 5287.48}, {"text": "us it's it's one place that that I went", "start": 5288, "end": 5293.92}, {"text": "and some of my friends went when the things were really going down very", "start": 5293.92, "end": 5300.84}, {"text": "low I had a lot of personal problems too but that's one place", "start": 5300.84, "end": 5309.36}, {"text": "that that gave me peace and happiness so please I'm", 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monument and Memorial in terms of designation we have a number of public monuments and", "start": 5371.6, "end": 5377.08}, {"text": "memorials that have been designated I'm thinking of the ones in Queens Park and along University Avenue such as the war", "start": 5377.08, "end": 5382.28}, {"text": "memorial and how does that differ from a shrine in terms of designation capacity or listing capacity in terms of", "start": 5382.28, "end": 5388.76}, {"text": "legislation thank you um thanks for your your question", "start": 5388.76, "end": 5394.44}, {"text": "through the chair it's a little difficult thing for us to answer relative to this particular case because", "start": 5394.44, "end": 5402.199}, {"text": "we didn't look at those definitions we were using the Heritage act criteria and applying it to the property um and so", "start": 5402.199, "end": 5409.8}, {"text": "that was our lens we weren't trying to figure out what was a shrine what wasn't a shrine or what was a a you know a", "start": 5409.8, "end": 5417.679}, {"text": "statue or that that was not part of our consideration so um I know that's not a", "start": 5417.679, "end": 5424.159}, {"text": "very helpful answer to your question but it's not a question we considered thank you other questions of", "start": 5424.159, "end": 5432.36}, {"text": "Staff Adam um thank you madam chair my my second and hopefully final question on", "start": 5432.84, "end": 5438.08}, {"text": "this item could you speak in capacity to the I note that the view is a protected element it's listed at the very bottom", "start": 5438.08, "end": 5444}, {"text": "of those designation criteria the panoramic view and the view along the property could you speak in regards to", "start": 5444, "end": 5449.32}, {"text": "how a view is protected and what elements that entails because I know a number of people have asked for consideration of the entire property how", "start": 5449.32, "end": 5456.679}, {"text": "is that view framed in the legislative capacities well the the views uh since", "start": 5456.679, "end": 5463.84}, {"text": "they are considered to be part of the value of the property and attributes if", "start": 5463.84, "end": 5469.119}, {"text": "there were uh you know changes to the property proposed that severed The View", "start": 5469.119, "end": 5474.76}, {"text": "that would be noted and um but as far as any more more um technical than that", "start": 5474.76, "end": 5484.04}, {"text": "that that doesn't exist for this so it's an attribute amongst many", "start": 5484.04, "end": 5489.679}, {"text": "thank you thank you very much are there other questions of", "start": 5489.679, "end": 5496.56}, {"text": "Staff seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us would", "start": 5498.08, "end": 5503.4}, {"text": "anybody care to move the recommendations in that report Madam chair were we going", "start": 5503.4, "end": 5508.96}, {"text": "to have discussion amongst us yes we are thank you oh my goodness discussion amongst", "start": 5508.96, "end": 5514.92}, {"text": "ourselves thank you Paul um does anybody have anything to contribute Paul please", "start": 5514.92, "end": 5520.84}, {"text": "I did want to say a couple of things one um I I do think it's it's important for", "start": 5520.84, "end": 5526.6}, {"text": "given so many people have come and spoken um I just thought I would reflect on the two things that I certainly heard", "start": 5526.6, "end": 5534.04}, {"text": "heard this morning so that people you know Wonder um what the reaction was one", "start": 5534.04, "end": 5540.119}, {"text": "was simply that clearly this is a very significant place to a great many people", "start": 5540.119, "end": 5545.28}, {"text": "um I think that's broadly proven and the other thing that I think is is worth", "start": 5545.28, "end": 5550.84}, {"text": "kind of um keeping on the record is clearly the biggest um step forward or", "start": 5550.84, "end": 5556.84}, {"text": "the biggest thing that people expressed a desire for is um enhanced and", "start": 5556.84, "end": 5563}, {"text": "confirmed or or legal uh public access to the site and designation may or may", "start": 5563, "end": 5569.76}, {"text": "not contribute to that but um I I think that's a kind of a vision or a goal that", "start": 5569.76, "end": 5575.84}, {"text": "has to be kind of um hanging above all all of what we what we discuss I also I", "start": 5575.84, "end": 5582.88}, {"text": "I did prickle a little and felt I had to rebut a little um this is a property", "start": 5582.88, "end": 5588.159}, {"text": "that was listed since 2005 so for an owner to say they were", "start": 5588.159, "end": 5593.48}, {"text": "not aware um of a historical significance and there's also a very", "start": 5593.48, "end": 5598.639}, {"text": "clear public record of large Gatherings that uh public Gatherings and access by", "start": 5598.639, "end": 5604.639}, {"text": "the public for a long period of time before the sale so again um I I do feel", "start": 5604.639, "end": 5610.76}, {"text": "on we we hear this so often from from owners of properties I didn't know um", "start": 5610.76, "end": 5617.08}, {"text": "there's kind of a minimum level of buyer beware and uh I I think this is a case", "start": 5617.08, "end": 5622.639}, {"text": "where the the public interest in the property was easily discoverable you know a 15c check of the register during", "start": 5622.639, "end": 5630.44}, {"text": "title search would have brought this all to light so I don't personally have much sympathy for um these arguments of gee I", "start": 5630.44, "end": 5638.119}, {"text": "was caught by surprise on the whole thing I think this issue was clearly in in public view for a long time so just", "start": 5638.119, "end": 5645.32}, {"text": "having said all of that I'll I'll stop there but uh I'm strongly support the", "start": 5645.32, "end": 5650.56}, {"text": "the staff recommendation is there other discussion amongst", "start": 5650.56, "end": 5657.118}, {"text": "ourselves I'd say that I particularly appreciate the the third recommendation which which directs um the senior", "start": 5658.32, "end": 5665}, {"text": "manager Heritage planning to to look more robustly at the property as a cultural heritage landscape I think", "start": 5665, "end": 5671}, {"text": "that's a really positive step to go forward and allows us to to weave those different uh historical periods um in a", "start": 5671, "end": 5678.239}, {"text": "really meaningful way so I look forward to to that work going forward um is", "start": 5678.239, "end": 5683.679}, {"text": "there any other discussion Adam I I would just like to", "start": 5683.679, "end": 5689.159}, {"text": "thank Paul for raising that point of buyers beware because it is something we often hear and thank you for framing", "start": 5689.159, "end": 5694.679}, {"text": "that in such a polite way if there's no other discussion now", "start": 5694.679, "end": 5700.679}, {"text": "as I realize I look on both sides of the room I didn't mean to ignore you Paul um would anybody care to remove the", "start": 5700.679, "end": 5707.08}, {"text": "recommendations in the staff report Paul all those in favor please raise your", "start": 5707.08, "end": 5713.119}, {"text": "hands motion carries thank you very very much moving on now to PB", "start": 5713.119, "end": 5721.04}, {"text": "26.2 2931 thank you very much counselor thank you for attending", "start": 5721.04, "end": 5728.239}, {"text": "today unfortunately no the P yeah you have your five minutes but thank you", "start": 5728.239, "end": 5734.44}, {"text": "very much for being here we really appreciated it the next item in our agenda is PB", "start": 5734.44, "end": 5741.28}, {"text": "26.2 29 31 and 33 Sussex Avenue notice of intention to designate a", "start": 5741.28, "end": 5747.719}, {"text": "property this one was held um we have a staff president", "start": 5747.719, "end": 5753.639}, {"text": "presentation do we care to hear the presentation um Madam chair yes because there's different information in the", "start": 5753.639, "end": 5759.719}, {"text": "presentation following some corrections to the r report okay very good thank you very much welcome back and I'll turn it", "start": 5759.719, "end": 5766.199}, {"text": "over to staff hi Lissa hello again everyone um I will be presenting on item", "start": 5766.199, "end": 5772.52}, {"text": "PB 26.2 29 31 and 33 Sussex Avenue hold on", "start": 5772.52, "end": 5778.92}, {"text": "a second I'm just GNA pause you for a second our public Gallery is just clearing and my hearing isn't what it", "start": 5778.92, "end": 5784.679}, {"text": "used to be", "start": 5784.679, "end": 5788.04}, {"text": "okay Lissa thank you very very much no problem I'll start from the top again um I'll be presenting on item PB", "start": 5842.32, "end": 5851.04}, {"text": "26.2 29 31 and 33 Sussex Avenue notice of intention to designate a property", "start": 5851.04, "end": 5857.679}, {"text": "under part 4 section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act next slide", "start": 5857.679, "end": 5863.84}, {"text": "please the subject properties are located on the south side of Sussex Avenue between Heron Street and Spadina", "start": 5863.84, "end": 5870.719}, {"text": "Avenue in the hon Sussex neighborhood in the Northwest Quadrant of the University", "start": 5870.719, "end": 5875.8}, {"text": "of Toronto's St George campus next slide", "start": 5875.8, "end": 5880.638}, {"text": "please commonly known as the three sisters the subject properties are part of a trio of originally identical second", "start": 5881, "end": 5888.199}, {"text": "empire style house form buildings that were constructed in 1879 the property at 29 sustic Avenue", "start": 5888.199, "end": 5896.32}, {"text": "along with the property at 33 Sussex Avenue were listed on the Heritage register in November 2016 the middle", "start": 5896.32, "end": 5903.84}, {"text": "property located at 31 Sussex Avenue was included on the city of Toronto's inaugural inventory of Heritage", "start": 5903.84, "end": 5910.239}, {"text": "properties over 50 years ago in 1973 and is listed on the Heritage register in", "start": 5910.239, "end": 5916.639}, {"text": "2013 31 Sussex Avenue was the subject of an engineering retrofit project called", "start": 5916.639, "end": 5922.32}, {"text": "Gemini house and was rehabilitated the subject properties are currently owned by the University of", "start": 5922.32, "end": 5928.56}, {"text": "Toronto City staff consulted with the University of Toronto assistant vice president University planning in", "start": 5928.56, "end": 5934.679}, {"text": "preparing this report staff have determined that the properties at 29 31 and 33 susex Avenue", "start": 5934.679, "end": 5942.28}, {"text": "have cultural heritage value and meet five of the Ontario regulation 906 criteria prescribed for municipal", "start": 5942.28, "end": 5949}, {"text": "designation under part four section 29 of the Ontario Heritage act next slide", "start": 5949, "end": 5955.92}, {"text": "please the properties at 2931 and 33 Sussex Avenue have designed value as", "start": 5956.679, "end": 5962.52}, {"text": "being three prop properties which comprise a rare Trio of house formed buildings that are representative", "start": 5962.52, "end": 5968.32}, {"text": "examples of the Second Empire Style with towers located in the hon Sussex", "start": 5968.32, "end": 5973.36}, {"text": "neighborhood the style is evident to varying degrees at each property including in the mansard roofs the", "start": 5973.36, "end": 5979.679}, {"text": "corner Towers the polychromatic brick cladding and the Shane detailing in the tower the decorative Windows as well and", "start": 5979.679, "end": 5987.08}, {"text": "in the wood brackets it can also be seen in the front entrances at 31 and 33 Sussex", "start": 5987.08, "end": 5993.84}, {"text": "Avenue in their overall form massing and Design Elements the properties also display a high degree of craftsmanship", "start": 5993.84, "end": 6001.199}, {"text": "next slide please the subject properties have", "start": 6001.199, "end": 6006.4}, {"text": "historical value as they contribute to an understanding of the unique character of the late 19th century here on Sussex", "start": 6006.4, "end": 6013.04}, {"text": "neighborhood within the University of Toronto St George campus which is defined by its residential street Scapes", "start": 6013.04, "end": 6019.4}, {"text": "and lowrise collection of housewarm buildings the property at 2931 and 33", "start": 6019.4, "end": 6025.48}, {"text": "Sussex Avenue comprise the earliest surviving houses on Sussex Avenue and survive today as a remnant of a larger", "start": 6025.48, "end": 6032.48}, {"text": "Victorian residential neighborhood that's spanned to the South and which was redeveloped as part of the West", "start": 6032.48, "end": 6039.639}, {"text": "Campus expansion by the University of Toronto contextually the properties are", "start": 6039.639, "end": 6044.679}, {"text": "important in defining and supporting the late 19 century residential scale and character of the hon Sussex neighborhood", "start": 6044.679, "end": 6051.52}, {"text": "which is primarily comprised of sing family houses of two to three stories the properties are physically visually", "start": 6051.52, "end": 6058.28}, {"text": "and historically linked to it to their surroundings maintaining the Integrity of the historic neighborhood streetscape", "start": 6058.28, "end": 6064.52}, {"text": "while contributing to its variety as part of a distinctive Second Empire Trio commonly referred to as the three", "start": 6064.52, "end": 6070.719}, {"text": "sisters thank", "start": 6070.719, "end": 6073.8}, {"text": "you thank you very much we have no speakers on this item but do", "start": 6079.56, "end": 6085.639}, {"text": "we have questions of Staff Adam um thank you madam chair I'm", "start": 6085.639, "end": 6091.84}, {"text": "wondering if any interior elements or Design Elements were considered I'm particularly thinking of Gemini house", "start": 6091.84, "end": 6097.08}, {"text": "that engineering retrofit included very very careful restoration of the Grand", "start": 6097.08, "end": 6102.32}, {"text": "Ballroom ceiling if you look at Gemini House online you'll find interior photographs as well as a grand curve", "start": 6102.32, "end": 6108}, {"text": "staircase I think those interior elements absolutely should be protected um they are absolutely uh stunning uh", "start": 6108, "end": 6114.239}, {"text": "Victorian plaster workk details in an almost boow Arts fashion so there's any consideration", "start": 6114.239, "end": 6120.08}, {"text": "given to two interior elements and could be perhaps include those within the designation", "start": 6120.08, "end": 6125.52}, {"text": "report Lissa are you able to speak to this one yeah perfect yeah no problem so we actually didn't get interior access", "start": 6129.52, "end": 6136.36}, {"text": "to any of the properties so none of the Interior elements were considered", "start": 6136.36, "end": 6142.88}, {"text": "are there other questions of Staff Adam thank you madam Sher um Lissa you", "start": 6143.84, "end": 6150.04}, {"text": "had mentioned you were working with the university on this project would there perhaps be an opportunity and I'm looking at potentially a motion to look", "start": 6150.04, "end": 6156.56}, {"text": "at interior elements um as available certainly the university and ra", "start": 6156.56, "end": 6161.88}, {"text": "Architects on their websites have interior photographs of 31 Gemini as it ex or 31 Sussex as exists as Gemini", "start": 6161.88, "end": 6168.52}, {"text": "house um those are publicly available photographs showing the Heritage interior elements", "start": 6168.52, "end": 6174.04}, {"text": "uh that may be a question better suited for Tamara to answer thank", "start": 6174.04, "end": 6179.639}, {"text": "you good morning chair it's Tamar cutri uh program manager for Heritage and", "start": 6179.639, "end": 6184.679}, {"text": "policy um I I would just say that it uh one of the one of the uh motivations for", "start": 6184.679, "end": 6192.199}, {"text": "us of doing this designation uh was in part because we had already had", "start": 6192.199, "end": 6198.8}, {"text": "substantial work done uh research and evaluation when we did the list uh at the uh report in", "start": 6198.8, "end": 6206.239}, {"text": "2016 and uh the dialogue with the University of Toronto as a very good", "start": 6206.239, "end": 6211.36}, {"text": "Steward of these properties um it wasn't our intent to um extend the designation", "start": 6211.36, "end": 6217.88}, {"text": "further into the interior itself um it's not to say that that couldn't happen at", "start": 6217.88, "end": 6222.92}, {"text": "a a future date um but we are working with the university on on the sites in", "start": 6222.92, "end": 6228.96}, {"text": "particular and one of the things that we're also uh looking at is that some new information came about one of the", "start": 6228.96, "end": 6235.76}, {"text": "previous owners a longtime owner a professor of this and so uh there we we", "start": 6235.76, "end": 6241.239}, {"text": "do have the opportunity for us at least on the historical or Associated value uh", "start": 6241.239, "end": 6246.52}, {"text": "to have uh that material updated in time for a council decision so just saying", "start": 6246.52, "end": 6252.119}, {"text": "that that material is pending um I I would say at this point or at this time", "start": 6252.119, "end": 6257.599}, {"text": "um uh it's up to the board as to whether or not they wish us to look at uh", "start": 6257.599, "end": 6263.199}, {"text": "interior attributes um but I would say at this point the report is robust to be", "start": 6263.199, "end": 6269.28}, {"text": "able to designate these three sisters um that once again are Legacy listed", "start": 6269.28, "end": 6275.639}, {"text": "properties and we are moving ahead as quickly as we can to get as many of these uh in place uh but before the", "start": 6275.639, "end": 6283.32}, {"text": "expiration thank you very much thank you very much are there other questions of staff", "start": 6283.32, "end": 6294.08}, {"text": "Adam thank you madam CH I'm going to say I will be bringing a motion forward to have consideration of those interior elements and to the board I will be", "start": 6295.48, "end": 6301.84}, {"text": "sending interior photographs for your consideration so we'll be going back and forth by email on that Adam this is", "start": 6301.84, "end": 6307.36}, {"text": "discussion we're gonna get there next um and clearly I'm going to have to table this if you could submit your Motion in", "start": 6307.36, "end": 6314.32}, {"text": "writing to clerks now um I'm going to table this right away uh to move on", "start": 6314.32, "end": 6320.08}, {"text": "because clearly we've got some other discussion points um I'll also suggest send whatever you so choose it's harder", "start": 6320.08, "end": 6328.04}, {"text": "for us to read and look at things as we're trying to to to to to to keep our", "start": 6328.04, "end": 6333.159}, {"text": "focus on the agenda at hand so we're tabling PB 26.2 and then moving on to PB", "start": 6333.159, "end": 6341.44}, {"text": "26.3 1778 1908 1914 1920 and 1926 BL", "start": 6341.44, "end": 6347.56}, {"text": "Street West inclusion on the Heritage register Gary is here with a presentation", "start": 6347.56, "end": 6353.719}, {"text": "um to my fellow members shall we listen to it yes thank you very much hi Gary", "start": 6353.719, "end": 6362.719}, {"text": "welcome is that on now yes okay good all right thank you uh my name is", "start": 6362.76, "end": 6370.239}, {"text": "Gary MMA I'm a project manager with Heritage planning and I'm pleased to present this report today and I'd like", "start": 6370.239, "end": 6375.92}, {"text": "to recognize uh the help of Lindsay Parsons and uh Emma doens in preparing", "start": 6375.92, "end": 6381.56}, {"text": "this report the report Court recommends the properties at 1778", "start": 6381.56, "end": 6387.08}, {"text": "1908 uh 1914 1920 and 1926 B Street West", "start": 6387.08, "end": 6393.639}, {"text": "for inclusion on the Heritage uh register as listed properties next slide", "start": 6393.639, "end": 6399.96}, {"text": "please uh as the map shows on the left the subject properties are located in the High Park North neighborhood and", "start": 6401.52, "end": 6408.719}, {"text": "High Park is the large green space to the south on that map uh property at 1778 blur Street West is located on the", "start": 6408.719, "end": 6416.52}, {"text": "northeast corner of blur Street West and Mount View Avenue and then the four", "start": 6416.52, "end": 6422.239}, {"text": "other properties at 1908 1914 1920 and 1926 BL Street West are located on the", "start": 6422.239, "end": 6428.4}, {"text": "north side of War Street West between High Park Avenue to the East and Quebec", "start": 6428.4, "end": 6434.48}, {"text": "Avenue to the West all five properties were constructed between Circa 1927 and", "start": 6434.48, "end": 6440.159}, {"text": "1930 and contain early 20th century walk up apartment buildings staff have undertaken research", "start": 6440.159, "end": 6446.719}, {"text": "and valuation for the properties at 1778 1908 1914 1920 and 1926 Flor Street West", "start": 6446.719, "end": 6454.679}, {"text": "and believe that the properties have cultural heritage value or interest and meet at least one of the criteria prescribed in Ontario regulation 906 for", "start": 6454.679, "end": 6461.76}, {"text": "including a non-designated property on a municipal register under Section 27 of", "start": 6461.76, "end": 6467.4}, {"text": "the intario Heritage act the properties were identified uh together and that's", "start": 6467.4, "end": 6472.679}, {"text": "the the kind of uh the text on this slide um as having potential Heritage", "start": 6472.679, "end": 6478.36}, {"text": "value through the B Street West Heritage Conservation District study so there's been a history of evaluation on these", "start": 6478.36, "end": 6484.08}, {"text": "properties and they they were identified through the hcd study uh and is", "start": 6484.08, "end": 6489.56}, {"text": "contributing to the character of this portion of blur Street West which fronts on the High Park through the blur West", "start": 6489.56, "end": 6495.56}, {"text": "Village Avenue study uh so previously identified through two other studies as having contextual value and staff bring", "start": 6495.56, "end": 6502.08}, {"text": "that forward today next slide and we'll go through some of the individual properties here um 1778 bore", "start": 6502.08, "end": 6510.239}, {"text": "Street West uh was constructed Circa 1929 and it's known historically as the Mount View Garden Apartments uh and it", "start": 6510.239, "end": 6517.56}, {"text": "holds design value as a representative example of an early 20th century walk of apartment building with arts and crafts", "start": 6517.56, "end": 6523.48}, {"text": "movement influences next slide we're going to move further west to the grouping of", "start": 6523.48, "end": 6528.96}, {"text": "four um constructed Circa 1930 the property at 1908 blor Street West holds", "start": 6528.96, "end": 6534.679}, {"text": "design value as an early 20th century walk up apartment building with arts and crafts movement influences the property", "start": 6534.679, "end": 6540.52}, {"text": "is also associated with well-known Toronto architect Frank s", "start": 6540.52, "end": 6545.679}, {"text": "mallerie uh next slide please and uh final grouping of three uh", "start": 6545.679, "end": 6552.08}, {"text": "these properties were constructed between Circa 1928 and 1930 um and the properties at 1914 1920", "start": 6552.08, "end": 6559.96}, {"text": "and 1926 BL Street West known resp respectively as High Park Manor Sunny South Apartments and Park Manor", "start": 6559.96, "end": 6567.32}, {"text": "Apartments have designed value as representative examples of early 20th century walkup apartment buildings with", "start": 6567.32, "end": 6572.96}, {"text": "Edwardian classical influences and I would love to live in a sunny South Apartments uh and uh that's the end of", "start": 6572.96, "end": 6580.36}, {"text": "the presentation thank you very much wouldn't we all like to live in", "start": 6580.36, "end": 6585.599}, {"text": "something sunny and maybe not quite so cold as today uh my screen just oh there we go", "start": 6585.599, "end": 6592.44}, {"text": "hello hello uh do we have any questions of", "start": 6592.44, "end": 6597.638}, {"text": "Staff Adam um thank you Madame chair um Gary I", "start": 6598.56, "end": 6604}, {"text": "understand there's several other walkup buildings are not being part of this listing report along those same few", "start": 6604, "end": 6609.04}, {"text": "blocks can you speak in a bit more detail about how these ones were selected specifically uh as you know staff bring", "start": 6609.04, "end": 6617}, {"text": "forward um properties uh based on uh a number of reasons uh some of which we", "start": 6617, "end": 6623.36}, {"text": "can speak to and some of which are confidential so we're bringing these properties forward today uh and uh", "start": 6623.36, "end": 6630.28}, {"text": "pulled out from the rest of those properties that have been identified along the North Street the north side of", "start": 6630.28, "end": 6635.52}, {"text": "of BL Street West thank you other questions of", "start": 6635.52, "end": 6641.76}, {"text": "Staff", "start": 6642.84, "end": 6645.84}, {"text": "Peter that's a great question and I think I can pass to Tara who is approaching the", "start": 6648.8, "end": 6655.28}, {"text": "mic uh good morning yes still good morning uh uh through the chair the", "start": 6666.199, "end": 6673.239}, {"text": "Heritage Conservation District uh study itself um has been completed by our", "start": 6673.239, "end": 6679.04}, {"text": "consultants and the findings are continuing to be integrated into a planning framework for BL West Village", "start": 6679.04, "end": 6685.84}, {"text": "and we had a public meeting in November about the cultural heritage value along this corridor from the from the bridge", "start": 6685.84, "end": 6692.8}, {"text": "all the way over uh to um The Old Mill Bridge all the way over to the um uh", "start": 6692.8, "end": 6700.079}, {"text": "kill Street um and uh so that is out on a public record the hcd at this uh study", "start": 6700.079, "end": 6707.719}, {"text": "at this point uh we're will bringing forward our recommendations on that study as part of the final Direction on", "start": 6707.719, "end": 6715.199}, {"text": "the planning framework itself and in particular for us it's an area that is", "start": 6715.199, "end": 6720.28}, {"text": "under great transition um because of these mtsa um and variety of things um but", "start": 6720.28, "end": 6727.679}, {"text": "it's an excellent study that was done with in collaboration or in in alignment with an Urban Design guidelines um but", "start": 6727.679, "end": 6735.84}, {"text": "at this point we're not ready to bring that study recommendations ultimately to the board we're still trying to", "start": 6735.84, "end": 6741.44}, {"text": "integrate it with the planning framework um but all the Heritage sites or potential Heritage sites within the", "start": 6741.44, "end": 6747.599}, {"text": "study area have been uh publicly sort of shared with the community including these", "start": 6747.599, "end": 6754.079}, {"text": "properties thank you very much are there other questions of", "start": 6754.079, "end": 6759.56}, {"text": "Staff seeing none is there discussion amongst ourselves", "start": 6761.44, "end": 6768.32}, {"text": "Jeff just simply sort of comments of the city city", "start": 6768.32, "end": 6774.639}, {"text": "planning Avenues policy at the next um meeting of planning and housing", "start": 6774.639, "end": 6779.719}, {"text": "committee and um it will do away with the requirement of a pre Avenue study", "start": 6779.719, "end": 6787.119}, {"text": "and I so I noticed that the comment from uh staff here that that this information", "start": 6787.119, "end": 6793.56}, {"text": "about Heritage came out of an Avenue study so a bit of a regret here that we", "start": 6793.56, "end": 6799.239}, {"text": "might be losing an opportunity to you know to ancillary studies Heritage when", "start": 6799.239, "end": 6806.32}, {"text": "you may be losing that opportunity to for that information um and and moving forward on the Heritage front a little", "start": 6806.32, "end": 6813.28}, {"text": "bit of concern that I have but it's more re relevance obviously to Pac than it is", "start": 6813.28, "end": 6818.719}, {"text": "to turn the preservation board thanks Jeff I'm not sure if that was a question or a comment but it was a", "start": 6818.719, "end": 6825.199}, {"text": "good comment but we was a comment it was a comment I I I would I would want to just correct the the that it was in", "start": 6825.199, "end": 6833}, {"text": "tandem with an H Heritage Conservation District study so not exclusively the planning study the two both uh in fact", "start": 6833, "end": 6840.599}, {"text": "it was the the district study that made the in-depth analysis of the site", "start": 6840.599, "end": 6845.88}, {"text": "specifically thank you very much uh other questions further", "start": 6845.88, "end": 6853.8}, {"text": "discussion seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us would anybody care to move the", "start": 6855.4, "end": 6860.96}, {"text": "recommendations in the report Peter all those in", "start": 6860.96, "end": 6866.639}, {"text": "favor thank you very much motion carries moving", "start": 6866.639, "end": 6873.96}, {"text": "chair hi Adam sorry I just want the clerk received the correspondence regarding the previous", "start": 6873.96, "end": 6880.719}, {"text": "item on we're gonna I'm gonna continue moving on have you submitted your mission your your motion just confirm it", "start": 6880.719, "end": 6886.719}, {"text": "was received at City Hall with the clerk sir yeah they they did it's all we're", "start": 6886.719, "end": 6891.92}, {"text": "going to just keeping along uh moving on to PB 26.4 84 matland", "start": 6891.92, "end": 6899.92}, {"text": "Street inclusion on the Heritage uh register and Gary didn't have to go anywhere welcome", "start": 6899.92, "end": 6906.44}, {"text": "back I'm gonna be Gary's voice for this one uh so good morning everyone my name", "start": 6906.44, "end": 6911.56}, {"text": "is Lindsay Parsons and I'm an assistant Heritage planner in Heritage planning with the trono Heritage survey team uh", "start": 6911.56, "end": 6918.52}, {"text": "I'm pleased to present this report today would like to recognize the support of Claire for forward and Gary MMA uh this", "start": 6918.52, "end": 6924.56}, {"text": "report recommends 84 maand Street for inclusion on the Heritage register as a listed property next slide thank you the", "start": 6924.56, "end": 6933.079}, {"text": "subject property is located on the north side of maand Street between Church Street and Jarvis Street in the church", "start": 6933.079, "end": 6938.76}, {"text": "and Welsley neighborhood staff have undertaken research and evaluation for the property at 84 maand Street", "start": 6938.76, "end": 6945.04}, {"text": "including entrance address 82 mland Street and believe that the property is cultural heritage value or interest and", "start": 6945.04, "end": 6951.239}, {"text": "meet at least one of the criteria prescribed in Ontario regulation 906 for inclusion of a non-designated property", "start": 6951.239, "end": 6958.4}, {"text": "on a municipal register under Section 27 of the Ontario Heritage act the property", "start": 6958.4, "end": 6964.119}, {"text": "also was identified as having Heritage a potential Heritage value through the north downtown young Urban Design", "start": 6964.119, "end": 6970.4}, {"text": "guidelines Community interest in the property was expressed through a nomination for Heritage evaluation in", "start": 6970.4, "end": 6975.96}, {"text": "November 2020 and four nominations in November 2022 next slide", "start": 6975.96, "end": 6982.96}, {"text": "constructed in 1911 the property at 84 matland Street known as the Royal George Apartments hold design value as a", "start": 6982.96, "end": 6989.8}, {"text": "representative example of an early 20th century apartment building with Edwardian classical detailing", "start": 6989.8, "end": 6996.679}, {"text": "contextually the property contributes to a collection of early 20th century brick walkup apartment buildings on mland", "start": 6996.679, "end": 7003.199}, {"text": "street and the surrounding Church wisley neighborhoods thank you thank you very much Lindsay do we", "start": 7003.199, "end": 7011.36}, {"text": "have any questions of staff on this item Jeff you held this", "start": 7011.36, "end": 7020.239}, {"text": "one um no no further question okay are there any questions of Staff Adam hi", "start": 7020.239, "end": 7028.4}, {"text": "thank you madam shair I I'm actually going to out myself as a person who submitted the nomination back in 2020 for this one um I'd like to thank them", "start": 7028.4, "end": 7035.119}, {"text": "for for proceeding with this with any consideration given to Interior elements the the lobby and grand staircase of", "start": 7035.119, "end": 7041}, {"text": "this building is dropped that's presing Edwardian architecture uh if not at what stage could we expect potential", "start": 7041, "end": 7046.56}, {"text": "consideration of interior elements uh so listing statements are not exhaustive uh a property only needs", "start": 7046.56, "end": 7053.48}, {"text": "to meet one of the nine provincial criteria to Merit listing uh so listing reports are clear in stating that future", "start": 7053.48, "end": 7060.48}, {"text": "research and evaluation May indicate more values and a full list of attributes is only developed through", "start": 7060.48, "end": 7066.599}, {"text": "designation report uh so we received your images of the Interior um so those", "start": 7066.599, "end": 7071.88}, {"text": "would be identified through full evaluation in connection with the designation report thank you Lindsay", "start": 7071.88, "end": 7079.159}, {"text": "other questions of Staff seeing none is there discussion", "start": 7079.159, "end": 7086.32}, {"text": "amongst ourselves Adam I I just want to extend the thanks", "start": 7086.32, "end": 7092.36}, {"text": "to everyone who has um worked on this file over the past few years for the commune members who also submitted their", "start": 7092.36, "end": 7098.079}, {"text": "nominations also this this a stunning building it's part of a land assembly and just for a fun fact for anyone like", "start": 7098.079, "end": 7104.079}, {"text": "who likes political satire talk shows di Christie orina Christie one of the very first political satire talk show hosts", "start": 7104.079, "end": 7110.639}, {"text": "lived in this building in the 1960s when she was working for the CBC so there's some really interesting history there as", "start": 7110.639, "end": 7116.52}, {"text": "well thank you it'll be interesting to see what the designation report might uh", "start": 7116.52, "end": 7121.679}, {"text": "drum up about sort of those historical details and all of the other um uh things other discussion amongst", "start": 7121.679, "end": 7127.84}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none I have a staff Report with", "start": 7127.84, "end": 7134.119}, {"text": "recommendations before us would anybody like to move the recommendations in the report Jeff thank you very much all", "start": 7134.119, "end": 7141}, {"text": "those in favor motion carries thank you very much", "start": 7141, "end": 7146.599}, {"text": "uh we're going to continue motoring along to PB 26.5 94 courtly Boulevard", "start": 7146.599, "end": 7152.4}, {"text": "alterations 2 and demolition of Heritage attributes of a designated Heritage Property under sections 33 and 34 of the", "start": 7152.4, "end": 7158.84}, {"text": "Ontario Heritage act we have a staff presentation for this", "start": 7158.84, "end": 7165.52}, {"text": "one good morning and welcome I'll turn the floor over good morning can everyone", "start": 7173.44, "end": 7179.159}, {"text": "hear me okay great um so good morning my name is Jennifer Garen and I'm a Heritage planner with the Heritage", "start": 7179.159, "end": 7185.719}, {"text": "planning unit in the development review on the east team um and today I'll be presenting on agenda item PB 26.5 94", "start": 7185.719, "end": 7194.4}, {"text": "courtly Boulevard alterations to and demolition of Heritage attributes of the designated Heritage Property under", "start": 7194.4, "end": 7201.119}, {"text": "sections 33 and 34 of the Ontario Heritage act so the report recommends", "start": 7201.119, "end": 7206.76}, {"text": "the approval of alterations to and demolition of Heritage attributes proposed to the property in connection", "start": 7206.76, "end": 7214.28}, {"text": "with a one-story rear addition next slide please so the subject site is located in", "start": 7214.28, "end": 7221.119}, {"text": "the Litton Park neighborhood on the north side of courtley Boulevard between Avenue Road and Rosell Avenue and it", "start": 7221.119, "end": 7227.679}, {"text": "backs on to the Litton Sunken Gardens Park next slide", "start": 7227.679, "end": 7233.119}, {"text": "please so city council um at its December 17th and 18th meeting in 2024", "start": 7233.119, "end": 7239.4}, {"text": "adopted the notice of intention to designate of 94 courtly Boulevard under", "start": 7239.4, "end": 7245.159}, {"text": "part four of the Ontario Heritage act the property contains a residence constructed in 1914 inspir ired by the", "start": 7245.159, "end": 7252.4}, {"text": "Arts and Crafts movement the two-story house is finished in rustic red brick stone detailing and has half timbered", "start": 7252.4, "end": 7259.239}, {"text": "Gables an extended roof slope distinguishes the main facade which also features a prominent Stone porch the", "start": 7259.239, "end": 7266.84}, {"text": "property was commissioned for professional decorator William weeks and is among the earliest to be developed in", "start": 7266.84, "end": 7271.96}, {"text": "this portion of Lon Park next slide please so the proposal involves the", "start": 7271.96, "end": 7278.44}, {"text": "construction of a one-story Edition at the rear of the property and alterations to Heritage attributes including the", "start": 7278.44, "end": 7284.96}, {"text": "relocation of some windows and doors in-kind replacement of historic windows and doors and the enclosure of the rear", "start": 7284.96, "end": 7291.92}, {"text": "integral porch and shown on this slide is a rendering of the street view um of", "start": 7291.92, "end": 7298.28}, {"text": "the proposed additions uh next slide", "start": 7298.28, "end": 7303.48}, {"text": "please so the proposed alteration involves the construction of a new rear yard Edition which would interface with", "start": 7303.48, "end": 7310.079}, {"text": "the existing North rear elevation the addition consists of two one-story sped", "start": 7310.079, "end": 7315.719}, {"text": "Wings surrounding a central exterior pool and Terrace with the roof height", "start": 7315.719, "end": 7320.76}, {"text": "roughly matching the existing Eaves line of the retained house the alteration involves the", "start": 7320.76, "end": 7327.639}, {"text": "demolition of Heritage attributes including the rear porch and its Architectural", "start": 7327.639, "end": 7334.44}, {"text": "Components um the rear integral porch um would be enclosed as part of", "start": 7334.8, "end": 7340.8}, {"text": "The Proposal including the removal of its ceiling door and stone stair Wing walls additional interior openings are", "start": 7340.8, "end": 7348.36}, {"text": "proposed for the rear elevation to connect the existing house with the new addition next slide", "start": 7348.36, "end": 7354.679}, {"text": "please so as part of this proposal the rear veranda and its architectural elements are proposed to be demolished", "start": 7354.679, "end": 7361.52}, {"text": "to accommodate the new rear addition the rear ver Veranda although altered from its original form is", "start": 7361.52, "end": 7368.4}, {"text": "identified as a Heritage attribute in the statement of significance 494 courtly Boulevard and its demolition", "start": 7368.4, "end": 7375.079}, {"text": "will have a Heritage impact given its contribution to the design and physical value of the property however staff are", "start": 7375.079, "end": 7382.44}, {"text": "of the opinion that the proposed demolition of attributes is mitigated by the overall conservation strategy for", "start": 7382.44, "end": 7389.119}, {"text": "the project which conserves the public facing Heritage attributes of the main building the conservation strategy", "start": 7389.119, "end": 7396.079}, {"text": "involves the repair and restoration of the slate roof shown here in Blue uh the", "start": 7396.079, "end": 7401.48}, {"text": "rest ation includes spot replacement of copper flashing where required general", "start": 7401.48, "end": 7406.719}, {"text": "maintenance will be undertaken as part of the proposal and includes repair and repainting of wooden elements and", "start": 7406.719, "end": 7412.56}, {"text": "masonry Cleaning and Repair as required next slide", "start": 7412.56, "end": 7417.599}, {"text": "please um so this slide shows a more detailed strategy for the door and window openings including which will be", "start": 7417.599, "end": 7424.159}, {"text": "conserved which will be replaced in kind uh which will be moved so the strategy includes the", "start": 7424.159, "end": 7430.84}, {"text": "restoration of wood sash windows on the front elevation the front oak door and its Associated s side lights um so all", "start": 7430.84, "end": 7438.88}, {"text": "of the front facad openings will be restored and the only exceptions are the basement windows and the two relocated", "start": 7438.88, "end": 7445.96}, {"text": "windows on the left hand side of the entryway to reflect the interior reconfiguration which will be these will", "start": 7445.96, "end": 7452.96}, {"text": "be replaced in kind uh with sash windows on the east side and North elevations", "start": 7452.96, "end": 7459.92}, {"text": "will also be restored other windows will be replaced in kind as shown in the diagram and will match the originals in", "start": 7459.92, "end": 7466.76}, {"text": "design material width and profile to the satisfaction of the senior manager of Heritage planning and in accordance with", "start": 7466.76, "end": 7474}, {"text": "the parks Canada standards and guidelines for the conservation of historic places in Canada staff", "start": 7474, "end": 7479.52}, {"text": "recommends the approval of the alterations and demolition of attributes at 94 courtly Boulevard in connection", "start": 7479.52, "end": 7485.159}, {"text": "with the new rear addition thank you thank you very much do we have questions", "start": 7485.159, "end": 7490.559}, {"text": "of staff", "start": 7490.559, "end": 7493.639}, {"text": "just waiting for all of the lovely online people to pop back", "start": 7500.88, "end": 7506.239}, {"text": "up or not as the case may", "start": 7508.4, "end": 7512.92}, {"text": "be Adam you held this item do you have a question for staff on this one no I I", "start": 7516.559, "end": 7521.679}, {"text": "appreciate the clarification from the report my question was answered during that thank you okay um so seeing no", "start": 7521.679, "end": 7526.8}, {"text": "questions of staff is there discussion amongst ourselves yes", "start": 7526.8, "end": 7532.96}, {"text": "Alex yes it's more of a uh point that I think I made last time this is a success", "start": 7532.96, "end": 7538.88}, {"text": "story and it highlights the importance of getting something", "start": 7538.88, "end": 7544.76}, {"text": "listed when it comes on the market and there was a problem actually because um", "start": 7544.76, "end": 7551.639}, {"text": "there was the usual sort of Kickback from the owners that oh we property value will be much diminished etc etc", "start": 7551.639, "end": 7557.96}, {"text": "fortunately council did go ahead with the listing and now with the designation I think it's a happy story with a very", "start": 7557.96, "end": 7566.36}, {"text": "interesting uh addition and renovation and I think from the street the house will look just fantastic and uh overall", "start": 7566.36, "end": 7575.599}, {"text": "I think it's a example which I think should be followed More Often by people", "start": 7575.599, "end": 7580.8}, {"text": "in l Park and in parts of the city where they have a beautiful property and uh", "start": 7580.8, "end": 7587.88}, {"text": "the boogeyman of uh property devaluation is waved around but in spite of that I", "start": 7587.88, "end": 7594.04}, {"text": "think it's worked out very well ER and the owner are to be", "start": 7594.04, "end": 7599.52}, {"text": "congratulated thanks thank you Alex other discussion amongst", "start": 7599.52, "end": 7606.36}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us would anybody 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7665.52}, {"text": "Heritage planner with our development review team um here presenting item PB 26.6 regarding the designated Heritage", "start": 7665.52, "end": 7672.88}, {"text": "Property at 522 University Avenue alterations to and demolition of Heritage attributes under section 33 and", "start": 7672.88, "end": 7680.199}, {"text": "34 of the Ontario Heritage act as well as authority to enter into a Heritage easement agreement in conjunction with a", "start": 7680.199, "end": 7686.96}, {"text": "development proposal for the site next slide please the subject site is located at", "start": 7686.96, "end": 7693.079}, {"text": "the southwest corner of University Avenue in Elm Street um and it is bound", "start": 7693.079, "end": 7698.52}, {"text": "by Elm Street to the north Simco Street to its West and University Avenue to the east you can see here that the Heritage", "start": 7698.52, "end": 7705}, {"text": "building takes up the entire property parcel next slide please this slide 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{"text": "the proposed South elevation showing the one window returns that are visible and", "start": 7944.8, "end": 7950}, {"text": "the red line here is showing that cut line where the new construction will meet with the existing uh building", "start": 7950, "end": 7955.239}, {"text": "fabric next slide please these are some selected renderings of The Proposal the", "start": 7955.239, "end": 7961}, {"text": "design of the reconstructed portion of the Heritage building was carefully considered to make sure that the Heritage values and attributes would be", "start": 7961, "end": 7967.76}, {"text": "continue to be conveyed within the Reconstruction due to their original construction method the existing", "start": 7967.76, "end": 7973.159}, {"text": "pre-cast concrete cladding units were not found to be able to be salvaged and reused and instead the reconstructed", "start": 7973.159, "end": 7979.92}, {"text": "portion of the building and its two uh ground floor columns are proposed to be clad in Limestone the use of limestone", "start": 7979.92, "end": 7986.199}, {"text": "is proposed to allow for a visually compatible yet subtle distinction between the new material and the", "start": 7986.199, "end": 7991.52}, {"text": "existing original concrete building fabric the uniform arrangement of fenestration along with the Symmetry", "start": 7991.52, "end": 7997.92}, {"text": "Symmetry and proportions of the existing window open openings which which are such character defining features of this building along the east west and south", "start": 7997.92, "end": 8005.04}, {"text": "returns will all be replicated and new window units throughout the throughout the building are proposed to be", "start": 8005.04, "end": 8010.28}, {"text": "insulated glass units that will match the profile depth and tint of the existing the tower portion has been", "start": 8010.28, "end": 8016.76}, {"text": "designed with a simple grid pattern shown in the right hand rendering that attempts to draw reference to the", "start": 8016.76, "end": 8022.159}, {"text": "uniformity and the proportions of the Heritage building below next slide please this last slide shows a rendering", "start": 8022.159, "end": 8030.04}, {"text": "uh just with a closer view of the rehabilitated ground floor plane as it would be viewed from University and uh", "start": 8030.04, "end": 8035.76}, {"text": "University Avenue and Elm Street staff are recommending approval of the proposed demolitions and alterations", "start": 8035.76, "end": 8041.239}, {"text": "under section 33 and 34 of the ontar Heritage act thank you thank you very much we have one", "start": 8041.239, "end": 8048.159}, {"text": "speaker on this item Brendan mccab the project manager at erra welcome Brendon thank you madam", "start": 8048.159, "end": 8055.239}, {"text": "chair uh thank you I'm uh I don't have anything prepared today I'm just here uh should the board have any questions", "start": 8055.239, "end": 8061.84}, {"text": "on behalf of the applicant and the consultant team for this project marvelous thank you very much so do we", "start": 8061.84, "end": 8067.96}, {"text": "have questions for our speaker seeing none uh we're going to", "start": 8067.96, "end": 8076.199}, {"text": "move on to questions of Staff thank you very much Brendan thank you questions of", "start": 8076.199, "end": 8084.44}, {"text": "Staff seeing none is there discussion amongst stel oh hi Alex yes I I wonder if staff is aware", "start": 8084.92, "end": 8092.679}, {"text": "that at least according to my information as of a couple of weeks ago the property has been bought by", "start": 8092.679, "end": 8098.28}, {"text": "university health network and I believe the current building is going to be", "start": 8098.28, "end": 8105.199}, {"text": "redeveloped into a building for their purposes so I assume that the large", "start": 8105.199, "end": 8110.28}, {"text": "Tower is now off the books for at least the", "start": 8110.28, "end": 8115.04}, {"text": "president uh thank you through the chair I I don't have any updated information regarding that um however I do know that", "start": 8116.639, "end": 8122.96}, {"text": "the application is proceeding to uh Community Council right okay thank", "start": 8122.96, "end": 8130.079}, {"text": "you other questions any discussion amongst", "start": 8130.079, "end": 8138.119}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us who would like to move the", "start": 8139.32, "end": 8145.84}, {"text": "recommendations I will this time all those in favor", "start": 8145.84, "end": 8151.52}, {"text": "motion carries thank you very much we're going to move on to PB 26.7 508 and 510", "start": 8151.52, "end": 8158.52}, {"text": "Church Street alterations to Heritage properties and authority to amend a Heritage easement agreement um just as a", "start": 8158.52, "end": 8165.28}, {"text": "note so we will take a recorded vote on this one because Adam has declared a conflict Adam I don't see you on video", "start": 8165.28, "end": 8171.92}, {"text": "right now so that's exactly as it should be just sort of stay off thank you um", "start": 8171.92, "end": 8178.239}, {"text": "and we will invite the staff report on this item welcome", "start": 8178.239, "end": 8185.52}, {"text": "Kristen um hello I'm Kristen fled I'm a senior Heritage planner with Heritage", "start": 8200.4, "end": 8206.28}, {"text": "plannings development review team on the east at this report it seeks Authority for alterations to a part four", "start": 8206.281, "end": 8212.719}, {"text": "designated Heritage Property and to amend an existing Heritage easement agreement at 508 and 510 Church Street", "start": 8212.719, "end": 8220.678}, {"text": "slide please the development site at 506 to 516 church is located in the center of", "start": 8220.679, "end": 8227.558}, {"text": "the church in Welsley neighborhood also known as the village is located on the west side of 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Community the mural added in 2013 for world's", "start": 8319.719, "end": 8326.678}, {"text": "Pride contributes to the building status as a visual landmark next up please the subject development", "start": 8326.679, "end": 8333.96}, {"text": "application proposes a 48 story mixed use building the retention of a portion", "start": 8333.96, "end": 8339.319}, {"text": "of the existing Cru in Tango building which is shown on the site plan in darker gray the demolition of the coacho", "start": 8339.32, "end": 8346.518}, {"text": "to the rear a previous development application for a 14-story building with a similar", "start": 8346.519, "end": 8352.24}, {"text": "conservation strategy was approved by City Council in July 2022 the existing World Pride mural will", "start": 8352.24, "end": 8359.678}, {"text": "be removed to allow for masonry restoration and it will be commemorated through documentation in two new murals", "start": 8359.679, "end": 8366.478}, {"text": "the proposed demolition 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floor the", "start": 8500.359, "end": 8505.68}, {"text": "masing stone will be cleaned repaired and replaced where necessary further", "start": 8505.68, "end": 8510.96}, {"text": "alterations to the ground floor door and window openings are proposed to make the retail space universally", "start": 8510.96, "end": 8516.76}, {"text": "accessible The Proposal reinstates the missing Street wall to the north of the Heritage building and the new base is", "start": 8516.76, "end": 8523.319}, {"text": "set back from the Heritage building giving it prominence staff appreciates the revisions to the proposed Street", "start": 8523.319, "end": 8529.479}, {"text": "wall compared to the previously approved proposal the glazed reveal to the north", "start": 8529.479, "end": 8534.76}, {"text": "of the Heritage building provides a simple contemporary transition further north the red brick", "start": 8534.76, "end": 8540.8}, {"text": "two-story volume with bays and rounded arched openings is compatible with the Heritage Property the proposed", "start": 8540.8, "end": 8548.16}, {"text": "horizontal and vertical articulation creates a regular rhythm of Base that relates to the fine grain character of", "start": 8548.16, "end": 8554.24}, {"text": "The Village staff recommend approval of the proposed alterations in the context of", "start": 8554.24, "end": 8559.64}, {"text": "the proposed conservation and mitigation strategies and are of the opinion that the proposal is consistent with the", "start": 8559.64, "end": 8566.399}, {"text": "policy framework thank you thank you very much we have two", "start": 8566.399, "end": 8571.96}, {"text": "speakers on this item the first is Emily Collins good morning everyone good", "start": 8571.96, "end": 8578.479}, {"text": "morning you have five minutes great I should be quite quick um thank you Kristen for the presentation I think it", "start": 8578.479, "end": 8584.76}, {"text": "really covered off everything um I guess just to quickly introduce myself my name is Emily Collins I'm a senior project", "start": 8584.76, "end": 8590.84}, {"text": "manager at ra the Heritage consultants for the project I'm also joined here today uh with Jordan Kemp from greywood", "start": 8590.84, "end": 8597.6}, {"text": "group who's an owner of the site uh ER is involved with the site since the previous application and its approvals", "start": 8597.6, "end": 8603.64}, {"text": "we do think that the application before you today is an improved one the rehabilitation and conservation scope", "start": 8603.64, "end": 8608.96}, {"text": "for the Heritage fabric does remain consistent with the previous approvals however the new construction AB budding the retained fabric has changed", "start": 8608.96, "end": 8616.16}, {"text": "specifically as Kristen mentioned there's been a reduction in Street Wall height to two stories an increased step", "start": 8616.16, "end": 8622.2}, {"text": "backs on Church Street which provide for enhanced conditions and visibility of the Heritage building along Church", "start": 8622.2, "end": 8627.52}, {"text": "Street uh we are really looking forward to the opportunity to continue working with staff on this project As It moveed", "start": 8627.52, "end": 8632.96}, {"text": "Forward uh thank you for having us and we're happy to answer any questions you may have thank you very much Jordan you also", "start": 8632.96, "end": 8640.76}, {"text": "have five minutes are you just good for questions that's exactly right Madam", "start": 8640.76, "end": 8645.8}, {"text": "chair just he for any uh to answer any questions marvelous do we have any questions for our", "start": 8645.8, "end": 8653.12}, {"text": "speakers seeing none thank you very much for joining us today do we have any questions for", "start": 8655.479, "end": 8662.96}, {"text": "staff seeing none is there discussion amongst", "start": 8665.2, "end": 8670.16}, {"text": "ourselves seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us would anybody like to move the", "start": 8673.68, "end": 8679.359}, {"text": "recommendations in the report kuros thank you very much all those in", "start": 8679.359, "end": 8686.04}, {"text": "favor motion carries thank you I think we're still working on PB point2", "start": 8686.96, "end": 8694.88}, {"text": "so we're going to move on to PB did we need to do a recorded vote for that because Adam thank you Matthew oh I knew", "start": 8694.88, "end": 8701.6}, {"text": "it I knew I was too fast we need to do a recorded vote so if you could raise your hands if you're in favor I will say your", "start": 8701.6, "end": 8708.279}, {"text": "name and does that work for you perfect Paul Mitchell Peter Kash Jeff Katarina", "start": 8708.279, "end": 8717.72}, {"text": "Alex Matthew Julia that's everybody motion carries thank", "start": 8717.72, "end": 8723.76}, {"text": "you Matthew we get the hang of all of these screens new fangled technology one", "start": 8723.76, "end": 8728.88}, {"text": "of these days anyway moving on to PB 26.8 designation of the Kensington", "start": 8728.88, "end": 8734.479}, {"text": "Market Heritage Conservation District under part five of the Ontario Heritage act and we have a team act today because", "start": 8734.479, "end": 8743.72}, {"text": "it takes the village to do an hcd plan like this so turn it over to staff", "start": 8743.72, "end": 8752}, {"text": "technically still morning barely um but good morning members of the board my", "start": 8755.72, "end": 8760.76}, {"text": "name is Megan albinger um and I'm a Heritage planner with the Heritage planning policy and research team and", "start": 8760.76, "end": 8766.72}, {"text": "I'll be presenting this item PB 26.8 designation of the Kensington Market", "start": 8766.72, "end": 8772.479}, {"text": "Heritage Conservation District plan under part five of the Ontario Heritage act with my colleagues Tatum T Taylor", "start": 8772.479, "end": 8778.72}, {"text": "chobble and Patrick Brown in the interest of time we'll only be touching on some of the key aspects of", "start": 8778.72, "end": 8784.6}, {"text": "the hcd plan but we encourage everyone to review both volumes one and two of the full document which is appended as", "start": 8784.6, "end": 8791.279}, {"text": "attachments five and six to the report next slide please if you're not already familiar", "start": 8791.279, "end": 8798}, {"text": "with Kensington Market the district is located in the heart of downtown Toronto between College Street to the North", "start": 8798, "end": 8804.359}, {"text": "dunda Street West to the South ba Street to the west and Spadina Avenue to the", "start": 8804.359, "end": 8809.6}, {"text": "east it excludes Toronto Western Hospital and the associated parking garage on Leonard Avenue and properties", "start": 8809.6, "end": 8815.96}, {"text": "fronting onto the four boundary streets the district extends Beyond its mixed use core to include the predominantly", "start": 8815.96, "end": 8822.319}, {"text": "residential streets and properties surrounding the commercial market area next", "start": 8822.319, "end": 8828.399}, {"text": "Slide the district contains the Kensington Market National Historic Site of Canada designated by the historic", "start": 8828.399, "end": 8835.359}, {"text": "sites and monuments board in 2006 it is a vibrant mixed use neighborhood with a", "start": 8835.359, "end": 8841.04}, {"text": "unique identity and sense of place the neighborhood is a microcosm of Canada's diverse immigrant population where many", "start": 8841.04, "end": 8848.399}, {"text": "different ethnocultural communities have each added to the area's layers of built form maintained a dynamic market and", "start": 8848.399, "end": 8855.2}, {"text": "contributed to a vibrant Street Life its network of narrow streets and laneways fronted by closely built rows", "start": 8855.2, "end": 8862.08}, {"text": "of narrow houses many of which have been converted to 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"experimentation next slide in March 2015 the Kensington", "start": 8907.12, "end": 8912.8}, {"text": "Market hcd study was prioritized by city council and the completed Kensington", "start": 8912.8, "end": 8918.08}, {"text": "Market hcd study was endorsed by the torona preservation board in September of", "start": 8918.08, "end": 8923.88}, {"text": "2017 between 2019 and 2024 City staff Advanced the development of the draft", "start": 8923.88, "end": 8930.52}, {"text": "Kensington Market hcd plan this work included the reconvening of community", "start": 8930.52, "end": 8935.64}, {"text": "meetings following a suspension of consultation activities due to the covid-19 pandemic as well as the", "start": 8935.64, "end": 8942.279}, {"text": "implementation of a strategy for engagement with Urban indigenous communities next slide", "start": 8942.279, "end": 8949.2}, {"text": "please two Community consultation meetings were held for the hcd study", "start": 8949.2, "end": 8954.359}, {"text": "phase and a community Advisory Group or CAG comprising a cross-section of Stak", "start": 8954.359, "end": 8960.16}, {"text": "holders was convened in 2016 during the plan phase the same KAG", "start": 8960.16, "end": 8965.76}, {"text": "was consulted to review portions of the draft plan individual Community stakeholders were also consulted", "start": 8965.76, "end": 8972.72}, {"text": "throughout the project the extensive Community engagement was critical to establishing a conservation approach to", "start": 8972.72, "end": 8979.56}, {"text": "this hcd that recognized and responded to the district's social", "start": 8979.56, "end": 8984.64}, {"text": "values as part of the plan phase staff retained an indigenous facilitator to", "start": 8984.64, "end": 8990.479}, {"text": "engage with local Urban indigenous community members five joint sessions", "start": 8990.479, "end": 8996.12}, {"text": "gathered input on the cultural heritage values of the Kensington Market and West 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outlines the requirements for an hcd", "start": 9047.479, "end": 9053.08}, {"text": "plan which are listed on this slide in addition at least 25% of the", "start": 9053.08, "end": 9058.96}, {"text": "properties within a proposed hcd must meet two or more of the nine criteria", "start": 9058.96, "end": 9064.319}, {"text": "for determining cultural heritage value or interest the Kensington Market hcd", "start": 9064.319, "end": 9070}, {"text": "study process and the hcd plan have been prepared in accordance with provincial", "start": 9070, "end": 9076}, {"text": "legislation and the city's terms of reference for hcds next slide", "start": 9076, "end": 9081.96}, {"text": "please section three of the plan provides a detailed description of the district's cultural heritage values the", "start": 9081.96, "end": 9088.6}, {"text": "district is part of the ancestral lands of the misas of the credit the anishnabe the Chipawa the honi and the wendat", "start": 9088.6, "end": 9095.52}, {"text": 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development from the 1850s to the early 1900s the district also has", "start": 9219, "end": 9225.84}, {"text": "contributing properties that represent its Origins as a workingclass residential Enclave including workers", "start": 9225.84, "end": 9231.8}, {"text": "Cottages along laneways within the district a range of building and Landscape typologies create a complete", "start": 9231.8, "end": 9238.16}, {"text": "community and social services and public art represent the community's high degree of involvement in local matters", "start": 9238.16, "end": 9244.2}, {"text": "next Slide the market character sub area as previously mentioned features a", "start": 9244.2, "end": 9250.359}, {"text": "concentration of house form buildings with visible layering which reflects the modifications made over time to address", "start": 9250.359, "end": 9256.399}, {"text": "new community needs the character sub area also includes the district's purpose-built commercial buildings which", "start": 9256.399, "end": 9262.439}, {"text": "date to the emergence of the commercial Market in the early 20th century collectively the narrow storefronts", "start": 9262.439, "end": 9268.92}, {"text": "public realm patterns and public art within the character sub area Define the animated pedestrian experience of the", "start": 9268.92, "end": 9276.279}, {"text": "market next SL section four of the hcd plan includes", "start": 9276.279, "end": 9282.08}, {"text": "objectives that outline what the plan aims to achieve with part five designation these objectives reflect", "start": 9282.08, "end": 9288.84}, {"text": "both the current character of the district and how the plan envisions future management relating directly to the", "start": 9288.84, "end": 9296.04}, {"text": "attributes the range of objectives includes finding opportunities to represent indigenous Heritage conserving", "start": 9296.04, "end": 9303.12}, {"text": "the pattern of small storefronts and narrow lot frontages in the market supporting ongoing evolution of the", "start": 9303.12, "end": 9310.279}, {"text": "district's built fabric through incremental change and enhancing social and Community Values next slide please", "start": 9310.279, "end": 9320.04}, {"text": "the identification of property typologies in section five provides a categorization system for understanding", "start": 9320.04, "end": 9327.16}, {"text": "patterns of use and development within the district the property typologies", "start": 9327.16, "end": 9332.359}, {"text": "identified in the hcd plan include house form buildings converted house form", "start": 9332.359, "end": 9337.88}, {"text": "buildings meaning those which have been adaptively reused or converted to commercial use primarily through ground", "start": 9337.88, "end": 9344.64}, {"text": "floor alterations multi-residential buildings purpose-built commercial buildings", "start": 9344.64, "end": 9350.72}, {"text": "institutional buildings and parks in Open Spaces next slide", "start": 9350.72, "end": 9357.16}, {"text": "please another way that the hcd plan analyzes properties within the district", "start": 9357.16, "end": 9362.479}, {"text": "is by identifying contributing and non-contributing properties all properties within the hcd are designated", "start": 9362.479, "end": 9370.2}, {"text": "under the Ontario Heritage act but contributing properties are those that support the identified significant", "start": 9370.2, "end": 9376.68}, {"text": "cultural heritage value Heritage attributes and integrity of the district", "start": 9376.68, "end": 9382.2}, {"text": "within the hcd plan different policies and guidelines apply to a property", "start": 9382.2, "end": 9387.279}, {"text": "depending on whether it is contributing or non-contributing 58% of the 704", "start": 9387.279, "end": 9394.08}, {"text": "properties within the Kensington Market Heritage Conservation District meet two or more of the nine criteria for", "start": 9394.08, "end": 9401.12}, {"text": "determining cultural heritage value or Interest next slide", "start": 9401.12, "end": 9406.479}, {"text": "please section six of the plan lays out policies and guidelines for contributing properties within the district that will", "start": 9406.479, "end": 9413.12}, {"text": "conserve the district's cultural heritage value and attributes this includes conserving the legibility of", "start": 9413.12, "end": 9418.76}, {"text": "the district's early period of development and the patterns of building expansion that have made the market what", "start": 9418.76, "end": 9424}, {"text": "it is today the policies apply to exterior portions of a property that are visible from the public realm and not bu", "start": 9424, "end": 9430.56}, {"text": "building Interiors key policies and guidelines are Illustrated to provide a visualization of how they may be", "start": 9430.56, "end": 9437.2}, {"text": "interpreted some policies such as as those for new massing and additions are 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step", "start": 9474.56, "end": 9482.24}, {"text": "backs are prescribed next slide please policies for other types of", "start": 9482.24, "end": 9489.08}, {"text": "alterations also emphasize conservation of the legibility of a contributing properties's architectural style and", "start": 9489.08, "end": 9495.12}, {"text": "typology this legibility may relate to composition materials size finish", "start": 9495.12, "end": 9500.72}, {"text": "finishes patterns and detailing of exterior walls windows and roofs the plan strongly encourages the repair of", "start": 9500.72, "end": 9507.6}, {"text": "existing building features and details but where these are to be replaced the plan does not require Replacements to be", "start": 9507.6, "end": 9513.76}, {"text": "of ink kind materials and this acknowledges the incremental change and adaptations that property owners have", "start": 9513.76, "end": 9519.84}, {"text": "made over time either to address lower quality building materials used in the workingclass housing or to express", "start": 9519.84, "end": 9525.92}, {"text": "individual aesthetic preferences where these alterations have been made to contributing properties they retain the", "start": 9525.92, "end": 9531.8}, {"text": "legibility of their original character and the pl policies will continue to permit these types of", "start": 9531.8, "end": 9537.8}, {"text": "alterations these policies also support a wide variety of alterations to facilitate accessibility and Sustainable", "start": 9537.8, "end": 9544.279}, {"text": "Building practices which were identified as strong Community Values throughout the public consultations held the hcd", "start": 9544.279, "end": 9551.319}, {"text": "plan also supports property owners who are interested in undertaking restoration work on their buildings", "start": 9551.319, "end": 9556.84}, {"text": "making them eligible to apply for the city's Heritage in C of programs through their identification as a contributing", "start": 9556.84, "end": 9563.439}, {"text": "property next SL section seven of the plan lays out", "start": 9563.439, "end": 9569.399}, {"text": "policies and guidelines for non-contributing properties within the district which apply to alterations to", "start": 9569.399, "end": 9575.68}, {"text": "non-contributing properties as well as new infill development these policies", "start": 9575.68, "end": 9580.84}, {"text": "direct new development to complement the district scale massing and visibly layered built form by creating facades", "start": 9580.84, "end": 9588.319}, {"text": "that have variations in depth materiality or detailing while being generally consistent with the front yard", "start": 9588.319, "end": 9595.04}, {"text": "setback condition of the district's contributing properties next slide", "start": 9595.04, "end": 9601.279}, {"text": "please policies and guidelines regarding Street wall composition and storefronts", "start": 9601.279, "end": 9606.52}, {"text": "support the plan's objective to conserve the pattern of small storefronts and narrow lot frontages which help", "start": 9606.52, "end": 9613.359}, {"text": "facilitate the traditional food-based Market uses and other small businesses", "start": 9613.359, "end": 9618.56}, {"text": "that contribute to to the district's eclectic character for example the plan calls for new development to have", "start": 9618.56, "end": 9625.279}, {"text": "visually separated storefronts of less than 9 M wide and generally no higher", "start": 9625.279, "end": 9630.6}, {"text": "than one story as expressed on the building's exterior next slide", "start": 9630.6, "end": 9636.2}, {"text": "please the hcd plan also includes a section of policies and guidelines for the public realm the guidelines within", "start": 9636.2, "end": 9643.76}, {"text": "the section of the plan are not overly prescriptive allowing for creativity in their interpretation and application to", "start": 9643.76, "end": 9651.08}, {"text": "ensure the district continues to foster a range of dynamic cultural expression within the market character", "start": 9651.08, "end": 9657.72}, {"text": "sub area policies for public realm enhancements are intended to complement", "start": 9657.72, "end": 9663.04}, {"text": "and reinforce existing patterns of commercial use and the role of austa Avenue as a spine for cultural", "start": 9663.04, "end": 9670.359}, {"text": "events policies and guidelines acknowledge the role of soft Landscaping in the public realm as a reflection of", "start": 9670.359, "end": 9677.399}, {"text": "the area's residential Origins and opportunities for plac making Place", "start": 9677.399, "end": 9682.64}, {"text": "keeping public art and cultural expression are encouraged next", "start": 9682.64, "end": 9688.439}, {"text": "please the hcd plan describes the Heritage permit process and identifies", "start": 9688.439, "end": 9693.56}, {"text": "alterations that are considered minor in nature and may be carried out without applying for a Heritage permit examples", "start": 9693.56, "end": 9701.439}, {"text": "of such deemed approvals that are specific to the Kensington Market hcd include all commercial signage and", "start": 9701.439, "end": 9707.8}, {"text": "certain encroachments into the public realm that have been approved by Transportation Services Under chapter", "start": 9707.8, "end": 9714.08}, {"text": "743 of the municipal code in volume two of the hcd plan additional appendices", "start": 9714.08, "end": 9720.439}, {"text": "include reference lists of all contributing and non-contributing properties within the district the", "start": 9720.439, "end": 9726.2}, {"text": "appendices also include a detailed statement of contribution for each property or group of properties that has", "start": 9726.2, "end": 9732.8}, {"text": "been identified as contributing to the district an example of which is shown at the", "start": 9732.8, "end": 9737.88}, {"text": "right next slide please Heritage planning staff are of the opinion that", "start": 9737.88, "end": 9743.12}, {"text": "the Kensington Market hcd plan meets the requirements of the onario Heritage act", "start": 9743.12, "end": 9748.92}, {"text": "Heritage planning staff therefore recommend the designation of the Kensington Market hcd under part five of", "start": 9748.92, "end": 9755.359}, {"text": "the act in conclusion we wish to extend our sincere thanks to our city colleagues who have contributed to this", "start": 9755.359, "end": 9762.04}, {"text": "plan especially Lissa cero Emma doens and Aaron Smith above all we thank the", "start": 9762.04, "end": 9768.8}, {"text": "community members who have given their time and input to the hcd process and in", "start": 9768.8, "end": 9774.12}, {"text": "particular to the members of the KAG whose commitment to Kensington Market over the years has enabled us to", "start": 9774.12, "end": 9780.8}, {"text": "complete this hcd plan thank you thank you so much to to staff what a fantastic", "start": 9780.8, "end": 9788.04}, {"text": "report um and a tremendous amount of work um that clearly was put into this", "start": 9788.04, "end": 9793.96}, {"text": "we have one speaker on this item um but before we turn to the speaker just a proceed cedal moment we're going to do a", "start": 9793.96, "end": 9800.56}, {"text": "motion to extend the agenda sorry a motion to extend the meeting to the end of the agenda I'm sure that everybody", "start": 9800.56, "end": 9807.12}, {"text": "would like to stretch their legs but we have the finishing this item and one more I think let's just get this done I", "start": 9807.12, "end": 9813.399}, {"text": "think I think we can do it I Believe in Us so I'm going to turn to clerks to put up the motion that the pr Toronto", "start": 9813.399, "end": 9820.04}, {"text": "preservation board extend the meeting past the scheduled 12:30 lunch recess to complete the agenda all those in favor", "start": 9820.04, "end": 9830}, {"text": "motion carries thank you very much and now I will turn to our speaker Alan", "start": 9830, "end": 9835.88}, {"text": "Zimmerman representing 239 241 Augusta Avenue welcome you have five minutes if", "start": 9835.88, "end": 9843.08}, {"text": "you could grant me uh a share uh as presenter that'd be", "start": 9843.08, "end": 9849.72}, {"text": "appreciated before you start the clock oh okay I now have presented", "start": 9849.72, "end": 9858.08}, {"text": "okay okay so I'm Alan zerman uh uh my family and my parents and extended", "start": 9866.16, "end": 9873.6}, {"text": "family have owned some of the large properties at the core of Kon market and several smaller properties uh for the my", "start": 9873.6, "end": 9881.399}, {"text": "entire life and longer um I'm piing uh I", "start": 9881.399, "end": 9886.68}, {"text": "have some concerns about a couple things in the uh uh in the policies um and", "start": 9886.68, "end": 9892.6}, {"text": "they're specifically uh for larger properties so I'm going to be speaking to uh 239 and 241 austa but U there are", "start": 9892.6, "end": 9902.24}, {"text": "other family properties that are large as well uh looking back at gos Atlas in", "start": 9902.24, "end": 9908.84}, {"text": "1884 um I highlighted the uh property and uh shows that it is spanning uh two", "start": 9908.84, "end": 9917.56}, {"text": "municipal addresses uh and it is contained within the uh uh the district", "start": 9917.56, "end": 9923.399}, {"text": "uh and I also note that in the uh in the report in section 55 uh it's acknowledged that the", "start": 9923.399, "end": 9930.16}, {"text": "buildings uh within the district are diverse in character size and age and even in the Victorian area uh that we're", "start": 9930.16, "end": 9937.04}, {"text": "trying to preserve that Heritage uh there are larger properties that span multiple", "start": 9937.04, "end": 9943.359}, {"text": "Lots so uh the property I'm speaking to uh from 1912 in", "start": 9944, "end": 9949.92}, {"text": "1955 uh uh was the building on the left uh and it it was the Beth Lita synagogue", "start": 9949.92, "end": 9956.96}, {"text": "from 1959 uh to 2016 uh there were multiple Grocery and clothing stores uh mostly", "start": 9956.96, "end": 9963.76}, {"text": "run by my family uh at that time they determined that grossly was no longer revivable and it was vacant for over", "start": 9963.76, "end": 9970.12}, {"text": "three years uh due to delivery and parking challenges a um an event venue", "start": 9970.12, "end": 9976.08}, {"text": "wanted to take it over but then they determined it wasn't viable because of some of the liquor license restrictions", "start": 9976.08, "end": 9982.64}, {"text": "um but a cannabis store uh uh has been ATT tenant since 2019 and I am concerned", "start": 9982.64, "end": 9988.279}, {"text": "about their continued viability because it is a very large store that normally is not required for for uh for a", "start": 9988.279, "end": 9996.439}, {"text": "cannabis location uh and I I'm concerned that the hcd policies uh would you know", "start": 9996.439, "end": 10003.319}, {"text": "impact Redevelopment that might be necessary uh in order to attct future tenants and there's a", "start": 10003.319, "end": 10009.359}, {"text": "of future uh vacancies like we've had for you know three plus years uh", "start": 10009.359, "end": 10015.24}, {"text": "specifically section 7.6.3 um and uh U it talks about", "start": 10015.24, "end": 10021.319}, {"text": "storefronts being less than nine meters and no higher than one story um and you", "start": 10021.319, "end": 10026.479}, {"text": "know fundamentally uh uh number one if we redevelop uh I would like", "start": 10026.479, "end": 10032.16}, {"text": "acknowledgement that we can you know our current uh configuration which is a 133", "start": 10032.16, "end": 10038.319}, {"text": "uh 1 3 meter wide store uh could be allowed to continue uh because splitting", "start": 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the left uh with the Fairland sign it shows you that already that all those properties uh are", "start": 10089.359, "end": 10096.319}, {"text": "different heights uh the elevations are different um it is not an isore because", "start": 10096.319, "end": 10103.2}, {"text": "canopies or signage uh help bridge the heights so for example the property to", "start": 10103.2, "end": 10109.319}, {"text": "the right of us if you'll see uh the roof line is in the middle of the second story of uh the corner property uh but", "start": 10109.319, "end": 10116.68}, {"text": "it's but the bottom you know the top of the canopy does align with the other", "start": 10116.68, "end": 10121.8}, {"text": "canopy so I mean there's lots of ways to to achieve you know uh visibly", "start": 10121.8, "end": 10127.76}, {"text": "complimentary uh configuration without this you know mandating that the elevations are", "start": 10127.76, "end": 10133.56}, {"text": "identical for across the properties and frankly uh large properties would need", "start": 10133.56, "end": 10138.8}, {"text": "that um you need higher ceilings in order for it not to be claustrophobic here's another uh property uh 160", "start": 10138.8, "end": 10146.439}, {"text": "Baldwin uh which is a tall building compared to 168 170 and again you'll see", "start": 10146.439, "end": 10152.76}, {"text": "that the uh there is a difference in the Heights and I'm highlighting that with the Red Arrows where the second floor Windows aren't at the same height but", "start": 10152.76, "end": 10159.8}, {"text": "the signage uh above is is bridging some of that difference so it doesn't look", "start": 10159.8, "end": 10165.64}, {"text": "out of place Mr zman your time is up", "start": 10165.64, "end": 10171.399}, {"text": "unfortunately yeah we lost a little bit of time just from the um from getting the presenter but I understand uh anyway", "start": 10171.399, "end": 10179.88}, {"text": "uh there are I will submit this to the uh the Heritage team perfect and I would", "start": 10179.88, "end": 10186.279}, {"text": "ask them to consider the uh amendments that uh I'm proposing thank you very", "start": 10186.279, "end": 10191.88}, {"text": "much thank you for your time today do we have any questions of our", "start": 10191.88, "end": 10197.881}, {"text": "speaker Madame chair this is Adam wi I do have a question I'm not sure if you could see me with the presentation still up not quite but I'm glad you chimed in", "start": 10200.76, "end": 10207.96}, {"text": "Adam yes okay um thank you Mrs Z for your your presentation I wondering if you could speak a bit more around the", "start": 10207.96, "end": 10213.8}, {"text": "concern of width versus depth with storefront um viability in Kensington markets my understand a fair number of", "start": 10213.8, "end": 10219.399}, {"text": "the storefronts are quite narrow but extend deep into the Lots especially those typologies of the older houses", "start": 10219.399, "end": 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"end": 10283.479}, {"text": "additions and alterations I'm just wondering are the policies about demolitions the word demolition was not", "start": 10283.479, "end": 10291.641}, {"text": "mentioned with assume that question is directed at staff sorry through the chair um within the hcd plan demolition", "start": 10297.399, "end": 10304.52}, {"text": "would not be supported for contributing properties um it would be permissible", "start": 10304.52, "end": 10309.96}, {"text": "for non-contributing", "start": 10309.96, "end": 10313.319}, {"text": "properties thank you very much are there questions of", "start": 10316, "end": 10321}, {"text": "Staff Adam uh thank you madam chair I actually", "start": 10322.359, "end": 10328.8}, {"text": "have a few different questions I will go through them one at a time thank you very much and I'm going to pause after", "start": 10328.8, "end": 10334}, {"text": "each question just to make sure that everybody gets a chance to speak yes absolutely a um it's my understanding", "start": 10334, "end": 10340.68}, {"text": "Spina Avenue dund Street West colge Street and B Street were originally part of the Kansas Market hcd they were later", "start": 10340.68, "end": 10347.479}, {"text": "phased out I'm wondering if staff could speak to the decision to remove those uh four boundary streets from the study I'm", "start": 10347.479, "end": 10353.88}, {"text": "particularly concerned around ba of Spadina as there a fair number of buildings with like with potential", "start": 10353.88, "end": 10359.439}, {"text": "Heritage value along those stretches so why were they removed from the study uh sure uh through the chair as", "start": 10359.439, "end": 10366.96}, {"text": "you pointed out Adam the boundary streets were originally part of the hcd", "start": 10366.96, "end": 10373.319}, {"text": "study area through staff's research and Analysis during the hcd plan phase those", "start": 10373.319, "end": 10379.96}, {"text": "major boundary streets were removed from the boundary of the hcd plan based on", "start": 10379.96, "end": 10385.04}, {"text": "our refinement of our understanding of the cultural heritage value and Heritage attributes of the", "start": 10385.04, "end": 10391.84}, {"text": "hcd um if if we are speaking specifically I I believe you mentioned", "start": 10391.84, "end": 10397.68}, {"text": "vadina and dundes Adam sad and Bathurst sad and BST although certainly dundes as", "start": 10397.68, "end": 10403.56}, {"text": "well maintains that fine grain retail that we see in the market sure so on Bathurst Street we found that uh the", "start": 10403.56, "end": 10410.52}, {"text": "properties on the east side of Bathurst are part of a very highly evolved streetcape along bther Street and the", "start": 10410.52, "end": 10417.399}, {"text": "properties no longer are experienced as part of the interior of the market area", "start": 10417.399, "end": 10424.239}, {"text": "um on Spadina we found that the built form character along the west side of Spadina is very consistent with two to", "start": 10424.239, "end": 10431.52}, {"text": "three story purpose-built commercial and mixed use buildings with consistent uh", "start": 10431.52, "end": 10437.2}, {"text": "material pallets and they really don't demonstrate any of the visible layering", "start": 10437.2, "end": 10442.399}, {"text": "or patterns of adaptation that we identified as being uh defining", "start": 10442.399, "end": 10447.6}, {"text": "characteristics of the commercial market area within Kensington Market thank you", "start": 10447.6, "end": 10453.319}, {"text": "very much other questions of Staff Adam", "start": 10453.319, "end": 10459.479}, {"text": "um thank thank you for that clarification did you speak to any of the the long-term stakeholders in Kensington Market around um the Spina", "start": 10459.479, "end": 10466.08}, {"text": "Avenue element my understanding that section panana Avenue on the west side is viewed as part of the market 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"acknowledge that uh Kensington Market as an hcd um includes policies and", "start": 10509.84, "end": 10516.439}, {"text": "guidelines that are developed based on the the characteristics the key Heritage", "start": 10516.439, "end": 10521.64}, {"text": "attributes that we identified rather than uh kind of making an overall", "start": 10521.64, "end": 10527.08}, {"text": "statement about who is and isn't within Kensington Market it's specific to the belt form", "start": 10527.08, "end": 10533.84}, {"text": "patterns thank you very much other questions Adam okay thank you madam", "start": 10533.96, "end": 10540.56}, {"text": "chair and thank you for that clarification um I I note that the 2s lgbtq history of K's Market was emitted", "start": 10540.56, "end": 10547.16}, {"text": "from the report and the study um one of my panel members Ed Jackson has been a founding member of the body politic and", "start": 10547.16, "end": 10553.68}, {"text": "was involved with glad name books from the 1970s onwards he flagged this concern at the recent meeting I'm glad", "start": 10553.68, "end": 10559.6}, {"text": "they books the body politic Kensington Arts were all at 4 Kensington Avenue in the 1970s there was a body politic group", "start": 10559.6, "end": 10564.92}, {"text": "house at 27 Oxford in the 1980s and there's been contemporary TOS lgbtq businesses such as video at 187", "start": 10564.92, "end": 10571.84}, {"text": "Augusta Avenue in the early to mid 2010s I'm just wondering if any consideration was given to the 2s LGBT history and if", "start": 10571.84, "end": 10579.56}, {"text": "so why was it admitted and if not can we included in the", "start": 10579.56, "end": 10584.199}, {"text": "study let Tamara speak to that through the", "start": 10585.16, "end": 10589.96}, {"text": "chair again it's uh tar Sy cart R program manager for Heritage policy and", "start": 10600.2, "end": 10606.04}, {"text": "research uh thank you for the good question uh through the chair uh one of the things with the Heritage", "start": 10606.04, "end": 10612.76}, {"text": "conservation districts is that the terms of reference for us includes social and", "start": 10612.76, "end": 10618.96}, {"text": "Community Values those are things that are actually not under the provincial criteria reg", "start": 10618.96, "end": 10624.6}, {"text": "906 and when I'm hearing uh the team the project team identifying what are the", "start": 10624.6, "end": 10629.88}, {"text": "strong Community Values um my my response is that there are many", "start": 10629.88, "end": 10636.16}, {"text": "interesting historical information that we hear about uh sites throughout a", "start": 10636.16, "end": 10642.319}, {"text": "district study what what really I think is important for us is to to sort of uh", "start": 10642.319, "end": 10648.399}, {"text": "sift and decide or determine whether those are representative or really", "start": 10648.399, "end": 10654.399}, {"text": "reflect the full understanding of the cultural heritage value um and we certainly saw that ourselves with West", "start": 10654.399, "end": 10661.68}, {"text": "Queen West of having uh the importance of lgbtq as similarly for cabbage town", "start": 10661.68, "end": 10668.96}, {"text": "um certainly we could always supplement or document uh history of diversity and", "start": 10668.96, "end": 10675}, {"text": "inclusion and and if there's an opportunity we we uh we could we could see I I would say this information is", "start": 10675, "end": 10682.319}, {"text": "now coming very late to us um I would just just to say um th this social and", "start": 10682.319, "end": 10689.319}, {"text": "Community value is something that we take uh very uh very close to our our", "start": 10689.319, "end": 10696.239}, {"text": "work and and we are as in you've heard also from today the indigenous community", "start": 10696.239, "end": 10702.64}, {"text": "and engagements piece that we've really been trying to deal with and and I would just say that I think we could be more", "start": 10702.64, "end": 10709.08}, {"text": "intentional but I would say the historical fact of a store being there um as much as it was important to uh uh", "start": 10709.08, "end": 10717.04}, {"text": "uh clients and customers um we just didn't weren't able to relate it to the", "start": 10717.04, "end": 10722.279}, {"text": "overall District value itself um so we always appreciate new information or", "start": 10722.279, "end": 10728.16}, {"text": "information that is relevant but I would say on balance the the story that we are", "start": 10728.16, "end": 10733.52}, {"text": "telling in this and identified as what's a cultural value is what we would do we", "start": 10733.52, "end": 10739.16}, {"text": "we also can sometimes look to how do the values get reflected individually um in", "start": 10739.16, "end": 10745.64}, {"text": "not individually as noted as a collection of buildings um but in this", "start": 10745.64, "end": 10751.239}, {"text": "case in this circumstance we didn't identify associ value for any of the individual buildings with exceptions as", "start": 10751.239, "end": 10758.359}, {"text": "I understand it of the institutions like the place of worship the synagogue of", "start": 10758.359, "end": 10763.76}, {"text": "shul uh St Stevens for its incredible work that it's done for the community um", "start": 10763.76, "end": 10769.72}, {"text": "so I'm it I guess I'm sort of sort of saying uh an overall observation of", "start": 10769.72, "end": 10776.04}, {"text": "Social and Community Values is an evolving practice for ourselves um and there isn't really that guidance from", "start": 10776.04, "end": 10782.72}, {"text": "The Province on the criteria to the same extent um and we're just going to continue uh to to to improve that and I", "start": 10782.72, "end": 10790.239}, {"text": "understand and appreciate the panel continues to to express that information to us or share that information and we", "start": 10790.239, "end": 10797.399}, {"text": "hope we can continue to use it throughout our research on any of our districts thank", "start": 10797.399, "end": 10802.76}, {"text": "you thank you tomorrow other questions Adam um thank you madam chair", "start": 10802.76, "end": 10810.72}, {"text": "and thank you to Mayor and Tatum um for your clarification I have three more very brief questions um I thank you for", "start": 10810.72, "end": 10816.52}, {"text": "that clarification around the social cultural history I note in the report that the term Al alternative cultural", "start": 10816.52, "end": 10822.2}, {"text": "expression is used is there an opportunity to perhaps to expand that to include uh the 2s lgbtq history as well", "start": 10822.2, "end": 10828.8}, {"text": "as history such as the punk scene which is distinct from what is generally termed", "start": 10828.8, "end": 10834.278}, {"text": "alternative this is a history going back 50 years at this point it's not um just recent stuff um I I would I would say at", "start": 10835.479, "end": 10843.56}, {"text": "this point we're just take it under advisement right now we're just absorbing these things it's it's really", "start": 10843.56, "end": 10848.72}, {"text": "it's really challenging for us to get these questions um when the thing had been you know our material has been", "start": 10848.72, "end": 10855.16}, {"text": "published we've had open houses I mean I I don't want to dis discount any new information or observations from the", "start": 10855.16, "end": 10861.92}, {"text": "board they're highly valued but it's really hard for us to instantaneously respond yes or no um if you could more", "start": 10861.92, "end": 10869.439}, {"text": "to say we'll take it under advisement and have a thoughtful review", "start": 10869.439, "end": 10876.359}, {"text": "okay quick question number two okay um thank you and I I do want to", "start": 10876.359, "end": 10881.6}, {"text": "not in some cases these were sent in by email over the past seven years and I I understand with the pandemic some things", "start": 10881.6, "end": 10887.12}, {"text": "got lost and I'm not trying to Blindside people um I I would appreciate if any clarification could be given on the indigenous consultation process um", "start": 10887.12, "end": 10894.439}, {"text": "especially the push to rename Russell Creek and any um potential forthcoming indigenous elements of the study or as", "start": 10894.439, "end": 10902.04}, {"text": "they exist in the current form thank you um so yeah Heritage planning has", "start": 10902.04, "end": 10908.08}, {"text": "developed relationships with our treaty and territorial Partners um and in in accordance with our commitment to", "start": 10908.08, "end": 10913.279}, {"text": "reconciliation all treaty and territorial Partners were provided with an opportunity to express interest in", "start": 10913.279, "end": 10919.2}, {"text": "the study area and become involved with the project um we also sought to connect with Urban indigenous community members", "start": 10919.2, "end": 10925.439}, {"text": "through a series of in-person Engagement sessions facilitated by an indigenous consultant uh Innovation", "start": 10925.439, "end": 10933.279}, {"text": "7 uh We've held five in-person sessions with them over a peri period of several", "start": 10933.279, "end": 10938.56}, {"text": "months uh returning to the same group of people and uh reaching out to different groups of people and summaries of all", "start": 10938.56, "end": 10945.239}, {"text": "these sessions are available online um at the sessions we collected feedback", "start": 10945.239, "end": 10950.399}, {"text": "about the district about the values uh that they saw in the district and present a draft language to participants", "start": 10950.399, "end": 10956.399}, {"text": "to comment on um policy 8.2.3 is one particular example of a direct", "start": 10956.399, "end": 10962.439}, {"text": "suggestion uh that was recommended by many participants which directs users of the plan to find opportunities to", "start": 10962.439, "end": 10968.76}, {"text": "increase access to the natural environment within the public realm and honor the natural heritage of the area", "start": 10968.76, "end": 10974.239}, {"text": "through the introduction of pocket Gardens or other landscape features um with respect to the uh Russell Creek um", "start": 10974.239, "end": 10982.08}, {"text": "at one of our indigenous engagement sessions we also um talked about the", "start": 10982.08, "end": 10987.2}, {"text": "creek with uh community members um currently the city has no plans for physical daylighting of the", "start": 10987.2, "end": 10994.479}, {"text": "creek uh but cultural daylighting options were one of the top I that was discussed um and we found that it uh", "start": 10994.479, "end": 11001.52}, {"text": "generally uh fell into the same theme as the community's views on increasing", 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Augusta Avenue and potential value of 321 a Augusta Avenue alongside", "start": 11049, "end": 11054.56}, {"text": "uh emails that I've received from community members is it best for them to approve approach the study plan is directly or how would you like these uh", "start": 11054.56, "end": 11060.68}, {"text": "brought to your attention thanks Adam through the chair I think the best thing to do is that if", "start": 11060.68, "end": 11066.479}, {"text": "uh any anybody has uh noticed anything that they believe needs correction to", "start": 11066.479, "end": 11072.16}, {"text": "send it to the project leads um they would be given that this is an hcd plan", "start": 11072.16, "end": 11078.359}, {"text": "which looks more at the whole than the individual Parts some of them uh might", "start": 11078.359, "end": 11084.04}, {"text": "be um you know necessary to make other directions maybe are not so necessary", "start": 11084.04, "end": 11090.68}, {"text": "but they would be considered technical in nature uh which after we went to council we could do something about but", "start": 11090.68, "end": 11098.16}, {"text": "only really if it was something that related to uh a statement of significance or historic value you know", "start": 11098.16, "end": 11105.68}, {"text": "we're we're not going to rewrite the report and and make uh updates but we can make sure that if there's anything", "start": 11105.68, "end": 11112.16}, {"text": "related to policy that we look at it thank thank you are there other", "start": 11112.16, "end": 11119.6}, {"text": "questions of Staff seeing none is their discussion", "start": 11119.6, "end": 11125.8}, {"text": "amongst ourselves thank you very", "start": 11125.8, "end": 11130.438}, {"text": "much any Jeff well simply to say to I guess to", "start": 11131.52, "end": 11138.359}, {"text": "appreciate the work that's been done here um the complexity of dealing with an area that's constantly changing we", "start": 11138.359, "end": 11144.84}, {"text": "talk about how neighborhoods evolve but there's so much um change in in that and", "start": 11144.84, "end": 11150.399}, {"text": "and so much due to the changing waves of immigration and and cultural I guess um", "start": 11150.399, "end": 11156.08}, {"text": "in the Heritage World things are being talked about as tangible and intangible so this is an example perhaps more than", "start": 11156.08, "end": 11162.8}, {"text": "any of the other R studies in the city of trying to absorb trying to cope um", "start": 11162.8, "end": 11169.239}, {"text": "try to embrace intangible Heritage and I it it would seem I'm I I'm I'm I'm quite", "start": 11169.239, "end": 11176.2}, {"text": "sort of interested in now you've dealt with that in terms of the style of", "start": 11176.2, "end": 11181.319}, {"text": "policy um my sense is the the policies being raised are somewhat um higher level and and would", "start": 11181.319, "end": 11189.52}, {"text": "actually require some judgment involved to implement the plan so there may be some", "start": 11189.52, "end": 11194.76}, {"text": "challenges um in going forward but it'll be interesting to see you know how how", "start": 11194.76, "end": 11200.279}, {"text": "that goes and what the reception is over time um and and whether the experiment", "start": 11200.279, "end": 11206.359}, {"text": "that you're involved and you know is is able to be uh implemented effectively", "start": 11206.359, "end": 11212.239}, {"text": "and without too many hassles um but um thanks", "start": 11212.239, "end": 11217.399}, {"text": "again thank you Jeff for for for saying that so eloquently um are there other", "start": 11217.399, "end": 11222.84}, {"text": "discussion points Adam I just want to extend a", "start": 11222.84, "end": 11230.16}, {"text": "sincere thanks to all of the staff and community members and other stakeholders who have been and then board members who", "start": 11230.16, "end": 11235.52}, {"text": "have been involved in this process over the past almost decade of work it's really wonderful to see this come to", "start": 11235.52, "end": 11240.68}, {"text": "fruition um and I also want to say that our our preservation panel is looking at opportunities to become involved with the Chinatown study to get some", "start": 11240.68, "end": 11247}, {"text": "protection of uh of that Spina Avenue Corridor especially is it's such a great um built resource and Gem within the", "start": 11247, "end": 11253.479}, {"text": "city of Toronto any other discussion", "start": 11253.479, "end": 11258.68}, {"text": "points seeing none I have a staff Report with recommendations before us who would like to move the recommendations in the", "start": 11258.68, "end": 11266}, {"text": "report Jeff thank thank you very much all those in favor motion carries we're moving back", "start": 11266, "end": 11274.319}, {"text": "to PB", "start": 11274.319, "end": 11277.479}, {"text": "26.2 and I think what we'll do is it just we have um we're going to move in we'll have the motion uh put up on the", "start": 11279.56, "end": 11287.64}, {"text": "screen please and thank you", "start": 11287.64, "end": 11293.8}, {"text": "perfect um we will discuss this we'll vote on this and then we'll have more", "start": 11293.8, "end": 11300.239}, {"text": "discussion that the Toronto preservation sorry yes oh Madam sh if I", "start": 11300.239, "end": 11305.92}, {"text": "may add um reference photos have been sent to board members by email referencing the thank you Adam thank you", "start": 11305.92, "end": 11312.56}, {"text": "um not everybody has their device in front of us as you know we're really we've is one of going to be one of those", "start": 11312.56, "end": 11319.12}, {"text": "hiccups between virtual and at home where we're trying to sort of be present but I appreciate that you sent those along and we can reference them too um", "start": 11319.12, "end": 11327.2}, {"text": "the motion before us is that the Toronto preservation board requests that city council direct the senior manager Heritage planning Urban Design city", "start": 11327.2, "end": 11334}, {"text": "planning to pursue the examination of the interior of the properties located at 29 31 and 33 Su susex Avenue to", "start": 11334, "end": 11342.64}, {"text": "identify potential Heritage attributes relating to the design", "start": 11342.64, "end": 11347.72}, {"text": "values is there any discussion on this amendment yes Adam Madam chair I can put", "start": 11347.72, "end": 11354.479}, {"text": "an interior photo up in 5 seconds it will not the discuss no thank you okay I I think what what you have though is", "start": 11354.479, "end": 11360.76}, {"text": "very clear wording and you have spoken very uh in a very impassioned way we", "start": 11360.76, "end": 11366.359}, {"text": "trust you Adam this is your bread and butter you you know you're such a good historian of the area so I I think", "start": 11366.359, "end": 11373.12}, {"text": "there's a reason why you're putting this forward so is a discussion of this amendment yeah Paul um sorry to be", "start": 11373.12, "end": 11379.64}, {"text": "tiresome about it but just to to nitpick the wording um it didn't read to me to", "start": 11379.64, "end": 11386.279}, {"text": "say go head and designate but look for alter um additional things and so to my", "start": 11386.279, "end": 11392.8}, {"text": "mind the word additional or um you know hinting at at amending it uh when when", "start": 11392.8, "end": 11400.04}, {"text": "information is available I just hate to see this uh held up as a designation", "start": 11400.04, "end": 11405.239}, {"text": "while while that went on maybe maybe I'm not reading it right but I I can clarify", "start": 11405.239, "end": 11411.239}, {"text": "because we did give that some consideration because this report uh is", "start": 11411.239, "end": 11416.359}, {"text": "going to planning and housing housing and then on to city council and so there are a few options that we have that we", "start": 11416.359, "end": 11422.319}, {"text": "can consider uh but I I wouldn't want to pull it from an agenda in order to do", "start": 11422.319, "end": 11427.6}, {"text": "that and uh planning and housing has to adopt the motion of the board in order", "start": 11427.6, "end": 11433.56}, {"text": "for it to be you know for us to know that that's the direction um which doesn't mean to say we wouldn't take", "start": 11433.56, "end": 11440.04}, {"text": "consideration of it anyway it's just in terms of a formal motion so there are a few ways we can do it our Our intention", "start": 11440.04, "end": 11446.8}, {"text": "would not to hold it up um however if we get access and we do think that it has", "start": 11446.8, "end": 11453.16}, {"text": "value and we do have that conversation with UF because Interiors are you know", "start": 11453.16, "end": 11458.439}, {"text": "it's a um it's an extraordinary measure to to regulate the interior of anybody's", "start": 11458.439, "end": 11465.88}, {"text": "home uh so we take that very seriously but if we thought that we could do that", "start": 11465.88, "end": 11470.92}, {"text": "prior to council then we would do that um but just leave that we wanted to keep", "start": 11470.92, "end": 11476}, {"text": "it intentionally a little vag so you noticed something that was intentional cool if you're happy I'm", "start": 11476, "end": 11483.279}, {"text": "happy other discussion points to to to clarify some of the", "start": 11483.279, "end": 11491.2}, {"text": "potential interior elements um there's a very Grand plaster work and what they", "start": 11491.2, "end": 11496.6}, {"text": "call the Ballroom in Gemini house and there's a very Grand sweeping curved staircase in the tower and there's", "start": 11496.6, "end": 11502.6}, {"text": "probably other elements that are have not been featured but those have been featured in the glob and mail and in um", "start": 11502.6, "end": 11507.84}, {"text": "ra Architects websites so I imagine if you get access to the other three there or all three of them there may be other", "start": 11507.84, "end": 11513.319}, {"text": "elements as well so thank you other points of discussion seeing", "start": 11513.319, "end": 11519.439}, {"text": "none we need to vote on the amendment So Adam has moved it all those in favor of", "start": 11519.439, "end": 11524.68}, {"text": "the amendment Amendment the motion carries", "start": 11524.68, "end": 11531.2}, {"text": "we now have a staff report before us um are there questions of the of the report of the issue as", "start": 11531.2, "end": 11539.16}, {"text": "amended is there discussion amongst ourselves", "start": 11540.6, "end": 11546.92}, {"text": "Adam um thank you madam chair staff mentioned earlier that they received um information under review I I can provide", "start": 11546.92, "end": 11554.72}, {"text": "a very brief summary of that um and note that is still on the review it's some very important contextual and", "start": 11554.72, "end": 11559.84}, {"text": "associative history I think at this point my concern", "start": 11559.84, "end": 11565.279}, {"text": "Adam is is that is this a question for for for staff that you're trying to do or you no I was just going to offer a", "start": 11565.279, "end": 11570.88}, {"text": "brief 30 second summary of the the recent information that came to light for Sussex for Sussex but this is this", "start": 11570.88, "end": 11577.399}, {"text": "was addressed during the staff presentation that it's it's it's ongoing I thought that was at least for me that", "start": 11577.399, "end": 11582.479}, {"text": "was that was relatively clear um I know that there were a lot of things happening behind the scenes as as you", "start": 11582.479, "end": 11588.68}, {"text": "were anticipating the motion so um I thought this was good but Mary's gonna speak to it briefly I'll just I'll just", "start": 11588.68, "end": 11594.16}, {"text": "say one more thing Adam which is um we we uh have the information just to be", "start": 11594.16, "end": 11599.439}, {"text": "clear we will uh it is yet to go on the planning and housing agenda like live so", "start": 11599.439, "end": 11607.2}, {"text": "if we think that things can be changed and we think it's necessary enough to change it we will do that in like the", "start": 11607.2, "end": 11613.88}, {"text": "two days we have to do it before planning and housing we also have the opportunity to make changes before", "start": 11613.88, "end": 11619.16}, {"text": "Council but again if it's something that's in the staff report that's unlikely to change if it's affects the u", "start": 11619.16, "end": 11626.2}, {"text": "values and um attributes then we would want to make sure that happened prior to", "start": 11626.2, "end": 11632.76}, {"text": "council other questions as we go back and forth", "start": 11632.76, "end": 11637.92}, {"text": "discussion amongst ourselves Adam last comment I promise", "start": 11637.92, "end": 11645.68}, {"text": "and then uh we can vote unless anyone else has one this here on suix area of special identity is really a true gem in", "start": 11645.68, "end": 11651.439}, {"text": "the city of Toronto uh it has such Rich cultural literary and and arts history", "start": 11651.439, "end": 11657.2}, {"text": "that I really encourage a broader study of the entire District Margaret atw published her first book across the street Gordon Lightfoot lived across the", "start": 11657.2, "end": 11663.399}, {"text": "street in the 60s House of a Nazi press was established on this Brock it's really quite a phenomenal area of the", "start": 11663.399, "end": 11668.68}, {"text": "city of Toronto and I'm very grateful to see these designated thank you very much I think if there's any takeaway from all", "start": 11668.68, "end": 11675.239}, {"text": "of the love the agenda items is that we have a very vibrant City full of amazing pockets all worthy of exploration and", "start": 11675.239, "end": 11682.88}, {"text": "study we have a staff report before us with recommendations seeing that there's no other discussion would anybody like", "start": 11682.88, "end": 11689}, {"text": "to move the recommendations as amended in the", "start": 11689, "end": 11693.681}, {"text": "report Adam thank you very much all those in favor motion carries thank you very much", "start": 11694.84, "end": 11703.359}, {"text": "everybody we are back here on January the 31st um hopefully to see everybody in", "start": 11703.359, "end": 11708.96}, {"text": "person again it was lovely to see everybody here today thank you so much to staff and to clerks as we navigate", "start": 11708.96, "end": 11715.279}, {"text": "this and to the rest of my members have a lovely rest of your day meetings adjourned", "start": 11715.279, "end": 11722.84}]