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first of all good morning my name is Shelley Caroll I'm chair of", "start": 465.96, "end": 471.759}, {"text": "the budget committee I have quorums so this is meeting number eight welcome", "start": 471.759, "end": 477.28}, {"text": "everyone to meeting number eight today's meeting is being held by video conference and in person at City Hall in", "start": 477.28, "end": 483.039}, {"text": "committee room one this meeting is being live streamed online at", "start": 483.039, "end": 488.159}, {"text": "youtube.com Toronto City Council live I'll just start with our land acknowledgements although we may be", "start": 488.159, "end": 494.56}, {"text": "meeting in different locations today the budget committee would like to acknowledge that the land we are meeting on is the traditional territory of many", "start": 494.56, "end": 502.039}, {"text": "nations including the missas sagas of the credit the Anish naab the chipa the", "start": 502.039, "end": 507.08}, {"text": "hodon and the wendat 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{"text": "briefing note its appendices and the budget budget notes of various divisions", "start": 2378.839, "end": 2383.96}, {"text": "aenc agencies and corporations as a reminder the basis for the carbon budget process and Reporting", "start": 2383.96, "end": 2390.56}, {"text": "is codified in the Toronto Municipal Co code as part of our carbon accountability governance system the", "start": 2390.56, "end": 2396.8}, {"text": "purpose really is to collect and analyze data report on two main questions what is the budget's impact on emission", "start": 2396.8, "end": 2403.72}, {"text": "reductions and what is the budget's impact on fossil fuel dependencies for", "start": 2403.72, "end": 2408.839}, {"text": "2025 we do have a new addition in the prioritization process that seeks to", "start": 2408.839, "end": 2414.079}, {"text": "proactively identify new and enhanced actions that could reduce emissions and be included in the proposed budgets for", "start": 2414.079, "end": 2421.4}, {"text": "divisions uh agencies and corporations and for consideration by Council so moving to the the next slide", "start": 2421.4, "end": 2428.319}, {"text": "I do want to highlight that the carbon budget process has been an evolution", "start": 2428.319, "end": 2433.599}, {"text": "with the adopt adoption of transform to in 2021 the city has applied an approach of continuous Improvement to considering", "start": 2433.599, "end": 2440.839}, {"text": "climate change within the context of the budget with each year seing Progressive actions based on better information as", "start": 2440.839, "end": 2447.56}, {"text": "well as feedback from counselors the climate Advisory Group stakeholders and the public climate reporting and the", "start": 2447.56, "end": 2453.96}, {"text": "budget process started with simple project tagging as part of capital projects basically asking the question", "start": 2453.96, "end": 2461.2}, {"text": "is does this project reduce greenhouse gas emissions or 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involved divisions agencies and corporations identify areas for new and enhanced", "start": 2542.079, "end": 2549.119}, {"text": "emission reductions that can be included in this year's budget those proposals are then screened by climate staff to", "start": 2549.119, "end": 2555.599}, {"text": "ensure there's a clear link to emission reductions before further work is undertaken on emission reduction", "start": 2555.599, "end": 2560.92}, {"text": "potential and budget impact proposals are then ranked based on criteria I will speak to on the next slide and brought", "start": 2560.92, "end": 2567.2}, {"text": "forward for consideration uh while I will get into a few more details in the coming slides I", "start": 2567.2, "end": 2572.52}, {"text": "would note that this this process resulted in 31 new and enhanced emission red uction actions and overall across", "start": 2572.52, "end": 2579.559}, {"text": "the budget including from previous years we have approximately 190 projects that have 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there is a significant as I mentioned number of projects so I won't speak to all of them", "start": 2625.079, "end": 2630.64}, {"text": "and and obviously across all the divisions uh there is detailed information related to those projects", "start": 2630.64, "end": 2636.68}, {"text": "but look across the 2025 staff proposed budget the total estimated greenhouse gas reduction impacts for 2025 from both", "start": 2636.68, "end": 2644.599}, {"text": "Baseline actions and new and enhan enhanced actions is over 160,000 tons of", "start": 2644.599, "end": 2650.92}, {"text": "co22 equivalent greenhouse gas emissions uh this incl includes both projects are", "start": 2650.92, "end": 2656}, {"text": "approved in previous budgets and continue into 2025 and Beyond and they are anticipated to achieve reductions of", "start": 2656, "end": 2662.319}, {"text": "nearly 95,000 tons as well as new and enhanced projects that are anticipating to achieve reductions of over 65,000", "start": 2662.319, 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"start": 2752.28, "end": 2757.44}, {"text": "private sector and the public and I will speak a little bit in upcoming slides to some of the areas where we require", "start": 2757.44, "end": 2763.839}, {"text": "support to see widescale climate uh action and emission reductions I'll now", "start": 2763.839, "end": 2769.4}, {"text": "touch on a few highlights of the projects that will be undertaken as part of this budget in buildings Toronto's", "start": 2769.4, "end": 2774.8}, {"text": "largest source of emissions given our Reliance on fossil fuel natural gas for heating budget 2025 contains a number of", "start": 2774.8, "end": 2781.88}, {"text": "new Investments that will directly reduce emissions in City buildings through retrofits and support support", "start": 2781.88, "end": 2787.119}, {"text": "for residents and doing the same for the city this includes sustainable energy and building retrofits and corporate", "start": 2787.119, "end": 2792.68}, {"text": "Real Estate Management 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{"text": "do as an organization and have for years and yes I am aware in a couple of occasions it has been part of a disciplinary", "start": 3860.72, "end": 3867.839}, {"text": "conversation okay thank you um recognizing that the private sector is", "start": 3867.839, "end": 3872.92}, {"text": "um looking to get more people back to the office one of the issues being supervi uh supervision um are do you see", "start": 3872.92, "end": 3881.319}, {"text": "do you share any of those concerns of the private sector or or is the uh are you confident that our Workforce is", "start": 3881.319, "end": 3887.64}, {"text": "somehow different than the private sector so chair I I would say that we're", "start": 3887.64, "end": 3893.2}, {"text": "confident our hybrid work policy uh does work that doesn't mean I can say that we", "start": 3893.2, "end": 3898.64}, {"text": "have pockets of performance related issues regardless of the work environment uh so I don't think it boils", "start": 3898.64, 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meeting schedule uh the budget committee within the agenda online are all the presentations that", "start": 4150.679, "end": 4158.12}, {"text": "we're receiving here today we're still on questions the presentation uh uh councelor nunzi add", "start": 4158.12, "end": 4163.838}, {"text": "did you have questions yeah just actually a followup um with Council", "start": 4163.839, "end": 4168.96}, {"text": "Burnside and Council Fletcher so if I can ask the city manager when was the decision made by Council three and", "start": 4168.96, "end": 4178}, {"text": "two the decision made by Council chair two three two two days in the office three", "start": 4178.319, "end": 4185.679}, {"text": "days at home so the decisions are uh there's", "start": 4185.679, "end": 4191.04}, {"text": "been a return to the office strategy that rolled out as the pandemic um", "start": 4191.04, "end": 4196.28}, {"text": "released itself and so this policy has been in place I'm going to say for two and a half uh for two and A2 years um", "start": 4196.28, "end": 4204.159}, {"text": "we've certainly reported on it uh it's not a council directed policy it's an administrative policy that's put in", "start": 4204.159, "end": 4209.84}, {"text": "place but we've certainly been reporting through on in terms of what our hybrid work approach has been uh you'll also", "start": 4209.84, "end": 4215.8}, {"text": "note that I have indicated to council where I have indicated to council by memo is also what our guidelines is", "start": 4215.8, "end": 4221.679}, {"text": "beyond that in terms of in-person public meetings and inperson meetings with", "start": 4221.679, "end": 4226.84}, {"text": "members of council which is different our staff are to respond to inperson requests for for um it's it's up to you", "start": 4226.84, "end": 4234.4}, {"text": "to determine whether you want in person or not in person for those meetings no I understand that I'm talk about the staff", "start": 4234.4, "end": 4239.84}, {"text": "so when at what point are we going to review on the decision uh that was made", "start": 4239.84, "end": 4246.64}, {"text": "a couple years ago and who and who supervises this because if you have the", "start": 4246.64, "end": 4252.04}, {"text": "supervisor working from home how can that supervisor um", "start": 4252.04, "end": 4257.88}, {"text": "supervise so the supervision is down to the individual supervisors so in my case", "start": 4258.159, "end": 4263.88}, {"text": "I have people that I supervise so you know we Define ways of of ensuring the tasks get completed no different than if", "start": 4263.88, "end": 4270.719}, {"text": "we were doing that in in person uh in terms of a formal review there is no uh", "start": 4270.719, "end": 4276.239}, {"text": "there is no planned time frame for a review of of our our policy at the moment uh internally so that's not", "start": 4276.239, "end": 4282.96}, {"text": "something that's on a particular time clock okay so if we can ask for a formal review you'll bring forward a formal", "start": 4282.96, "end": 4290.84}, {"text": "review uh yes absolutely we'd be happy to bring forward the data that uh that you know that we're looking at and and", "start": 4290.84, "end": 4297.159}, {"text": "if that's a request from Council for some information back uh or to do that review happy to accommodate and to get", "start": 4297.159, "end": 4303.8}, {"text": "the stats now just to the chair um so can I ask a question on the um um the", "start": 4303.8, "end": 4310.639}, {"text": "10year capital program just one question yes as long as it's on the general presentation if it if it's drilling down", "start": 4310.639, "end": 4317.719}, {"text": "into divisions they're they're waiting to come forward okay just just the one question that I noticed and um so under", "start": 4317.719, "end": 4325.44}, {"text": "the the 10year capital program on page 15 real estate development so you've got", "start": 4325.44, "end": 4333.199}, {"text": "Old City Hall um a part of the list so what can you give me a little more", "start": 4333.199, "end": 4339.239}, {"text": "information Old City Hall what is happening with Old City Hall so we've been talking about that", "start": 4339.239, "end": 4345.52}, {"text": "for years yes okay Madam chair so we are we are about to bring a report on Old", "start": 4345.52, "end": 4351.76}, {"text": "City Hall and its future um it's it's a key City asset and given the fact that", "start": 4351.76, "end": 4357.92}, {"text": "we own that key City asset we have to keep it in a in a state of good repair", "start": 4357.92, "end": 4363.28}, {"text": "based on its current use um so more to come on Old City Hall as I said we will be bringing a report", "start": 4363.28, "end": 4370.28}, {"text": "to the next executive committee okay because at one point a few years I can't", "start": 4370.28, "end": 4375.76}, {"text": "remember when we talked about possibly getting Community organizations form a", "start": 4375.76, "end": 4381.48}, {"text": "group maybe having a museum or so that never happened I think this was about 10", "start": 4381.48, "end": 4386.52}, {"text": "years ago uh yeah so yeah Madam chair so we brought a report I think it was in", "start": 4386.52, "end": 4392.159}, {"text": "2018 or 2019 yeah 18 we brought a report in 2018 and we went out to Market um so there's", "start": 4392.159, "end": 4401.239}, {"text": "been a lot of work done since that time we haven't been sitting on our hands but um that's all coming in the report uh in in", "start": 4401.239, "end": 4409.48}, {"text": "the next couple of weeks okay thank you thank you questions okay um that uh", "start": 4409.48, "end": 4416.56}, {"text": "brings us uh into uh committee uh questions in the committee on the", "start": 4416.56, "end": 4421.96}, {"text": "presentations any questions on the general presentations or do people want to move on to", "start": 4421.96, "end": 4428.48}, {"text": "divisions okay people want to get specific I I'm just councelor Melby this", "start": 4428.679, "end": 4434.639}, {"text": "do you guys have questions have no other okay well then thank you gentlemen we're", "start": 4434.639, "end": 4440.32}, {"text": "going to move into the divisions themselves nothing on the carbon budget this is the carbon budget opportunity as", "start": 4440.32, "end": 4445.6}, {"text": "well environment and climate uh partly but the carbon budget tells you", "start": 4445.6, "end": 4451.44}, {"text": "everything across okay fine we'll do it now I was going to do it with environment and climate so um I thought", "start": 4451.44, "end": 4456.639}, {"text": "it could fit there um so is is it now integrated across all divisions so last", "start": 4456.639, "end": 4462.8}, {"text": "year I think we didn't have TTC or Toronto water on yet uh chair yes it is integrated across", "start": 4462.8, "end": 4469.88}, {"text": "all divisions this year okay and um so sorry I have to divide them into that one's an easy question I'll push that uh", "start": 4469.88, "end": 4477.4}, {"text": "that's an easy question I'll push that um does the $ 1.9 billion do investment in climate action that you have", "start": 4477.4, "end": 4483.32}, {"text": "summarized does that include the equity injections into Toronto Hydro or those in addition to to what you have", "start": 4483.32, "end": 4490.08}, {"text": "summarized the 1.9 billion those are in addition to so Toronto Hydro just given that they are are a a a corporation and", "start": 4490.08, "end": 4497.199}, {"text": "there is different rules around that are separate their budget does not come through uh the the uh this committee or", "start": 4497.199, "end": 4503.679}, {"text": "city council and therefore they are separate so that is in that is an addition to what is in the budget okay", "start": 4503.679, "end": 4509.52}, {"text": "and then the climate projects we're investing in I thought somewhere I saw 23 but you've clarified it's 31 new and", "start": 4509.52, "end": 4515.88}, {"text": "enhanced 31 new and enhanced so there's 190 projects overall okay 14 uh so 31", "start": 4515.88, "end": 4522.76}, {"text": "new and enhanced 14 are enhanced 17 or new okay and then when you do the", "start": 4522.76, "end": 4528.84}, {"text": "prioritization the one thing that and and firstly I think that's great and that's what we wanted to get to was", "start": 4528.84, "end": 4533.96}, {"text": "having the the a list of the biggest bang let's invest here and then a B list of should more funding become available", "start": 4533.96, "end": 4540.36}, {"text": "these could be picked up so I think that's greater as federal or provincial programs open up but one thing that wasn't clear to me is that just because", "start": 4540.36, "end": 4546.48}, {"text": "something was ranked low from a carbon perspective it could have been ranked high in another Division and funded through that other division so having a", "start": 4546.48, "end": 4553.28}, {"text": "rank low here doesn't mean we're not pro in as a city it just means it's not being prioritized through carbon budget", "start": 4553.28, "end": 4560.44}, {"text": "delivery so so through this process these were new and enhanced so they went", "start": 4560.44, "end": 4566.12}, {"text": "through they they would be included in the carbon budget if they were being uh funded I don't believe that any of the", "start": 4566.12, "end": 4572.239}, {"text": "ones that were L ranked low were not included there may be items that came forward that aren't included here", "start": 4572.239, "end": 4578.28}, {"text": "because they weren't carbon or ghg related that then would get picked up elsewhere but I as as far as I", "start": 4578.28, "end": 4584.04}, {"text": "understand the ones that were ranked low are not included um in in this file but they could be funded by another division", "start": 4584.04, "end": 4589.84}, {"text": "or agency by another ABC they they could I I don't believe because they could be a priority that contributes to active", "start": 4589.84, "end": 4597.719}, {"text": "Transportation or resilience but just not from a carbon perspective that's", "start": 4597.719, "end": 4602.88}, {"text": "that's right but they wouldn't be considered as part of uh as part of this work in terms of getting a ranking and", "start": 4602.88, "end": 4609.36}, {"text": "and support from a carbon perspective okay um I'll I'll check if anything else", "start": 4609.36, "end": 4615.199}, {"text": "here does not qualify under the other one um I I think everything else I can do through the division by division so", "start": 4615.199, "end": 4621.159}, {"text": "uh thank you and um it's nice to see that this work is now um fully fully", "start": 4621.159, "end": 4626.44}, {"text": "integrated um sorry there is one more that is more carbon budget and that is resilience so you've identified four big", "start": 4626.44, "end": 4632.8}, {"text": "projects um contributing to resilience contributing to flooding um are we", "start": 4632.8, "end": 4639.159}, {"text": "looking through a goal of doing a similar thing going forward where we're starting to put there's not a dollar summary so we can say we spent spending", "start": 4639.159, "end": 4645.44}, {"text": "$ 1.9 billion on projects could be climate action but I don't see a similar rollup for resilience is the goal to", "start": 4645.44, "end": 4650.8}, {"text": "start to work towards doing that as well uh the the goal is to and this year we are doing a uh Citywide risk and", "start": 4650.8, "end": 4657.96}, {"text": "vulnerability assessment which will really and as well as reporting back on governance which will really kind of", "start": 4657.96, "end": 4663.96}, {"text": "feed into um you know a more robust process prioritization and feeding again", "start": 4663.96, "end": 4669.36}, {"text": "into uh budget discussions um and decisions related to resilience um but", "start": 4669.36, "end": 4675.239}, {"text": "at the at at at this stage we're doing the work to kind of figure out where our greatest risks are what are the", "start": 4675.239, "end": 4680.84}, {"text": "probability of those risks and then we can start to apply that across all of it so right now it really is a lot of the", "start": 4680.84, "end": 4687}, {"text": "projects that are currently underway known risks um and and work that has been built into existing budgets for", "start": 4687, "end": 4693.639}, {"text": "example Toronto water obviously some some risks in that area and making significant Investments but we will uh", "start": 4693.639, "end": 4700.28}, {"text": "over time enhance the resilience elements Guided by a Citywide risk and vulnerability assessment okay thank", "start": 4700.28, "end": 4708.199}, {"text": "you okay councelor Chan yes just a quick question so as the city is building up", "start": 4708.199, "end": 4715.239}, {"text": "through a lot of development mostly developers are choosing tier one of the", "start": 4715.239, "end": 4720.28}, {"text": "Toronto green standard and that is going to impact our City's future in terms of", "start": 4720.28, "end": 4726.52}, {"text": "ghg so I'm just wondering in this carbon budget and in general how are we", "start": 4726.52, "end": 4732.36}, {"text": "investing to create more pressure or opportunities for developers to build to", "start": 4732.36, "end": 4740.44}, {"text": "a higher green standard which would help us towards our own transform to goals so", "start": 4740.44, "end": 4746.239}, {"text": "from a broad perspective we do have a schedule for the Toronto green standard to in increase uh the stringency over", "start": 4746.239, "end": 4753.12}, {"text": "time and there is a the next step and Reporting back on the next step uh is is coming and that uh will be a decision", "start": 4753.12, "end": 4759.96}, {"text": "for Council in terms of moving to that next step um I would 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training um for the", "start": 4799.719, "end": 4804.84}, {"text": "development industry to help them understand uh not just what is available the Technologies uh there's a lot of", "start": 4804.84, "end": 4811.4}, {"text": "misconceptions around the challenges of reducing emissions um but also to help", "start": 4811.4, "end": 4817.12}, {"text": "them understand the financial benefits um especially for example in uh in uh in", "start": 4817.12, "end": 4822.719}, {"text": "in where the Builder will own the building so maybe long-term rental there's significant U uh advantages for", "start": 4822.719, "end": 4828.76}, {"text": "making upfront Capital Investments that will significantly decrease the operating expenses over time so there's", "start": 4828.76, "end": 4834.719}, {"text": "resources in this budget that our Council offices could connect developers", "start": 4834.719, "end": 4840.52}, {"text": "with to be able to better understand how they might uh aim for a tier two to tier", "start": 4840.52, "end": 4845.679}, {"text": "four through through our division we do have teams that work on that we are working on additional resources uh both", "start": 4845.679, "end": 4852.76}, {"text": "um that could be kind of distributed to developers um but we also work again with developers directly as they go", "start": 4852.76, "end": 4858.88}, {"text": "through their application process with City Planning uh to help them understand the potential opportunities we do work", "start": 4858.88, "end": 4864.88}, {"text": "also at the community level uh and sure said neighborhood level for example um", "start": 4864.88, "end": 4870.12}, {"text": "in um uh in the Portlands uh and in downs view that also looks at uh", "start": 4870.12, "end": 4875.679}, {"text": "opportunities and then we we uh provide that information to other developers to say you know it can be done here it can", "start": 4875.679, "end": 4881.48}, {"text": "also be done there business case Etc so that is all part of of our regular work and we were building on it this year", "start": 4881.48, "end": 4887.56}, {"text": "including from recent direction from Council that we got in December uh to increase uh information that can support", "start": 4887.56, "end": 4893.88}, {"text": "developers so that will come in this year additional resources uh for uh counselor's offices and for developers", "start": 4893.88, "end": 4900.84}, {"text": "thank you those are my questions okay thank you so we're uh going to drill down now I'm going to move to uh", "start": 4900.84, "end": 4907.48}, {"text": "corporate Real Estate Management I don't do you have a microphone back there I think Mr moso", "start": 4907.48, "end": 4913.639}, {"text": "probably needs to move up yeah and uh uh people know where their", "start": 4913.639, "end": 4920.28}, {"text": "analyst notes are if they I see some of you are working uh from paper they are also online on the 2025 City budget page", "start": 4920.28, "end": 4928.6}, {"text": "if people want to ask questions about something that's specific in the analyst notes of division uh welcome Mr", "start": 4928.6, "end": 4935.96}, {"text": "Roso okay um oh uh there just councelor", "start": 4935.96, "end": 4941.56}, {"text": "nunzi at up but I I'll I'll ask her why don't we uh you have creme okay uh uh councelor", "start": 4941.56, "end": 4949.56}, {"text": "moyce and then councelor uh uh Melby thank you and through you madam chair so my first question I see that", "start": 4949.56, "end": 4956.96}, {"text": "there is a removal of one-time funding for security support services at city parks included in your budget submission", "start": 4956.96, "end": 4964.84}, {"text": "uh what does this mean for the city's encampment strategy going forward uh does this mean that corporate security", "start": 4964.84, "end": 4971.56}, {"text": "will no longer be involved in the city's encampment uh", "start": 4971.56, "end": 4976.44}, {"text": "response three Madam chair that is correct so yeah sorry yes sir sorry", "start": 4976.92, "end": 4984.44}, {"text": "that's okay I couldn't hear the question uh you heard the question right", "start": 4984.44, "end": 4989.52}, {"text": "okay so does your budget submission include any enhanced measures to mitigate the impacts of the closures of", "start": 4989.52, "end": 4996.44}, {"text": "safe consumption sites uh to City facilities and and staff for example", "start": 4996.44, "end": 5001.92}, {"text": "installing uh overdose sensors in our public washrooms perhaps um through you madam chair uh", "start": 5001.92, "end": 5009.199}, {"text": "thank you for the question um we'd have to discuss that with Toronto public health and that might be a question with", "start": 5009.199, "end": 5014.96}, {"text": "Toronto Public Health as there decline if that's something that they perceive that they would require then they would", "start": 5014.96, "end": 5020.92}, {"text": "come to us as uh as a service provider to fulfill that service of that that's what they felt was required it wouldn't", "start": 5020.92, "end": 5027.239}, {"text": "be something that corporate real estate would initiate it would be the Toronto Public Health that would uh would", "start": 5027.239, "end": 5033.159}, {"text": "request that if that's something that was required okay I'll have to follow up with them about that then and your", "start": 5033.159, "end": 5039.6}, {"text": "capital budget capacity to spend uh averages to 1990 million per year but", "start": 5039.6, "end": 5046.48}, {"text": "your 2025 budget is at $230 million how confident are you uh you'll", "start": 5046.48, "end": 5053.6}, {"text": "be able to meet that Target and what factors have impacted your uh from", "start": 5053.6, "end": 5059.08}, {"text": "previously achieving uh the budget thank you for the question and", "start": 5059.08, "end": 5064.6}, {"text": "through you madam chair um you know the over the last 3 to four years our our", 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that last 30% okay thank you those are my", "start": 5111.88, "end": 5117.159}, {"text": "questions hey thank you councelor Moyes uh questions of uh gr councelor", "start": 5117.159, "end": 5123.04}, {"text": "Chang good morning morning Mr Mato thank you for taking my phone call at 900m last night I appreciate it um just a", "start": 5123.04, "end": 5131.719}, {"text": "question about Old City Hall um we're now kind of treating it in a holding", "start": 5131.719, "end": 5137.6}, {"text": "pattern uh without a clear plan for the future how much do that cost us to just", "start": 5137.6, "end": 5142.639}, {"text": "hold it there as a vacant property um through you mam chair to um", "start": 5142.639, "end": 5149.48}, {"text": "to counselor uh counselor Chang so again knowing that uh eventually will be", "start": 5149.48, "end": 5155.36}, {"text": "vacated and bringing a report on on interim and future use uses we've already put into our budget last year", "start": 5155.36, "end": 5160.96}, {"text": "and this year the cost of maintaining that it's approximately about a million dollars a", "start": 5160.96, "end": 5166.159}, {"text": "year and uh with the newly vacated properties at two Civic Center and 175", "start": 5166.159, "end": 5173.08}, {"text": "Memorial Park Avenue will those also be uh put in a holding pattern and have a", "start": 5173.08, "end": 5180.08}, {"text": "cost Associated to it or will they be divested how quickly will we have a plan for", "start": 5180.08, "end": 5186.6}, {"text": "those two properties I'll deal deal with them separately so two two Civic Center um in", "start": 5186.6, "end": 5193.08}, {"text": "in about three years we'll be moving over to the new ECC and based on utilization rates and there's some state", "start": 5193.08, "end": 5198.56}, {"text": "of good repair that's required so instead of making an investment in an old property for the next three years", "start": 5198.56, "end": 5203.76}, {"text": "we're going to relocate those folks into into the main uh main building at uh two", "start": 5203.76, "end": 5208.88}, {"text": "at sorry at 399 West Mall um with respect to 175 same thing", "start": 5208.88, "end": 5214.44}, {"text": "we're doing some work there it's a low utilization rate of 175 so we're going to move those folks into the main", "start": 5214.44, "end": 5219.88}, {"text": "building and we'll work with divisions to see if 175 has has a program", "start": 5219.88, "end": 5225.6}, {"text": "use how many uh similar properties are in your portfolio that are not being", "start": 5225.6, "end": 5233.199}, {"text": "utilized to their fullest capacity and maybe are costing more to just hold on", "start": 5233.199, "end": 5239.32}, {"text": "to them without Clarity of the next use for them", "start": 5239.32, "end": 5245.36}, {"text": "oh that one yes okay okay remember we also man", "start": 5247.84, "end": 5254}, {"text": "all sorry through you madam chair to councelor Chang uh when you 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{"text": "little later uh on the next topic thank you on the next topic okay thank you um", "start": 5713.84, "end": 5719.4}, {"text": "okay so I'm going to go to C councelor nunziata then uh uh councelor Chang has", "start": 5719.4, "end": 5725.199}, {"text": "one more question if we can indulge I I think people don't mind that uh any other questions of crem okay on the", "start": 5725.199, "end": 5732.28}, {"text": "basis of that I'm going to quickly pass the gavel to my vice chair for a second uh go ahead councelor nunziata yeah I", "start": 5732.28, "end": 5738.48}, {"text": "just have one question since we're talking about Civic centers Civic centers so the York Civic", "start": 5738.48, "end": 5744.96}, {"text": "Center um we we do have a counter there and people can go in and pay their taxes", "start": 5744.96, "end": 5751.239}, {"text": "so what but then we have court service so has there what is the long-term plan", "start": 5751.239, "end": 5757.119}, {"text": "for the York 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"on on weekends that that we don't have um more or less skeleton staff in in the", "start": 5857.199, "end": 5862.36}, {"text": "facilities we work on a cost recoverable basis if the community centers want to use uh some of the the committee rooms", "start": 5862.36, "end": 5869.239}, {"text": "in terms of of of future community space um we're out to market right now to hire", "start": 5869.239, "end": 5875.56}, {"text": "a consultant to help us look at reimagining I'll use that word reimagining uh the Civic Center the", "start": 5875.56, "end": 5881.239}, {"text": "community and public spaces to see how they that how they can become more Community oriented hoping to close that", "start": 5881.239, "end": 5887.04}, {"text": "RFP in the next month or so and then we'll engage with the respective counselors at the respective uh Civic", "start": 5887.04, "end": 5892.84}, {"text": "centers and work through that process so would that potentially result in a different budget next year to in 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311 they'll they'll they'll they'll catch on", "start": 6050.52, "end": 6057.48}, {"text": "we'll start with councelor moist", "start": 6057.48, "end": 6062.119}, {"text": "okay oh that is true before we uh move inside um councelor croissan you said it", "start": 6064.159, "end": 6071.76}, {"text": "was the next topic by that did you mean 311 you have questions on on customer", "start": 6071.76, "end": 6078.84}, {"text": "experience he appears not to be with us any uh anymore uh so councelor Moy we'll", "start": 6080.36, "end": 6086}, {"text": "start with you on on customer experience formly 311", "start": 6086, "end": 6091.199}, {"text": "thanks uh thank you it's you madam chair um", "start": 6091.199, "end": 6096.76}, {"text": "so previously you discontinued the email channel for members of the public to submit Services request to", "start": 6096.76, "end": 6104.239}, {"text": "311 um but in this budget I see your asking for 16.5 uh FTE positions so does that does", "start": 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Q2 early Q3 to", "start": 6259.04, "end": 6266.04}, {"text": "have that implemented okay that's excellent um again one of the complaints", "start": 6266.04, "end": 6272}, {"text": "I hear and I experience this myself when I call 311 is that every time I call I have to uh submit my personal", "start": 6272, "end": 6279.44}, {"text": "information time and time again for every for every call every complaint uh", "start": 6279.44, "end": 6286.599}, {"text": "are we looking at perhaps having a user identity identif high in that you", "start": 6286.599, "end": 6294.599}, {"text": "know someone could actually say I'm a registered user of 311 and I could make multiple uh service", "start": 6294.599, "end": 6302.08}, {"text": "requests through the system over time rather than always having to submit the same information over and over", "start": 6302.08, "end": 6308.28}, {"text": "again um so through through the chair yes that is also something that we are looking at with our technology Partners", "start": 6308.28, "end": 6314.4}, {"text": "in terms of you know a login ability for example where you would be able to to create that profile with that", "start": 6314.4, "end": 6320.4}, {"text": "information stored uh when we have repeat callers as well we do reiterate", "start": 6320.4, "end": 6327.36}, {"text": "or or validate their information with them um because in some cases we do need", "start": 6327.36, "end": 6333.719}, {"text": "that information other cases such as a pothole or graffiti it could also be in an anonymous um service requests so", "start": 6333.719, "end": 6340.44}, {"text": "depending on the nature of the service request we do need to validate that information okay and my final question", "start": 6340.44, "end": 6346.679}, {"text": "is uh closing the loop with residents uh people call into this system you know be", "start": 6346.679, "end": 6352.239}, {"text": "through the app or or the website or whatever but uh there is not a closing", "start": 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issue um what happens now if someone sends an email to thr1", "start": 6401.96, "end": 6409.28}, {"text": "toronto.ca uh so depending on the nature of the email um if it's a general inquiry inquiry we will answer that um", "start": 6409.28, "end": 6416.84}, {"text": "there is an automated response that goes back to say that we have received your email someone will get back to um in", "start": 6416.84, "end": 6423.52}, {"text": "responding to that if it happens to be a service request we do encourage", "start": 6423.52, "end": 6428.88}, {"text": "um you know the the submitter of the email to go back and use a self-service portal and when you say self-service", "start": 6428.88, "end": 6435.04}, {"text": "portal is that strictly an app is it an online can you talk to us a little bit more about what the self-service portal", "start": 6435.04, "end": 6441.239}, {"text": "looks like and what residents should be utilizing it's actually both so we do have Self Service uh through our online", 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so that we can at least get something in um and there is feedback on those work orders through to", "start": 6618.92, "end": 6624.88}, {"text": "through to uh 311 um my recollection thank you for that my recollection uh", "start": 6624.88, "end": 6630.08}, {"text": "from previous discussions was there was more than just one division that was outstanding Toronto water and mLs are", "start": 6630.08, "end": 6636.36}, {"text": "coming to mind um can you correct me if I'm wrong and are is there work underway to ensure that those other divisions are", "start": 6636.36, "end": 6642.88}, {"text": "also part of a streamlined system absolutely we've got a I would say three", "start": 6642.88, "end": 6647.96}, {"text": "to four year road map uh we're actively working with Tron water we worked on planning uh with that division last year", "start": 6647.96, "end": 6653.88}, {"text": "um and we're in in progress in terms of implementation uh We've also got kind of subdivisions inside Transportation um", "start": 6653.88, "end": 6661.56}, {"text": "and some of the other divisions that we're working on in sequence uh but we do have a full road map and uh we're looking to have the major divisions", "start": 6661.56, "end": 6667.88}, {"text": "covered over the next few years thank you appreciate that uh those are my questions okay thank you I'm GNA go to", "start": 6667.88, "end": 6674.88}, {"text": "counselor changen and then we'll go back out councelor nunziata has a question oh councelor Christi you're you're back did", "start": 6674.88, "end": 6682.079}, {"text": "you have question on 311 I I do uh chair when when it's my turn yeah I'll get to eventually I'm", "start": 6682.079, "end": 6688.599}, {"text": "going to do counselor train and then I'm going to come back out to non-budget committee members to councelor NAD and", "start": 6688.599, "end": 6693.8}, {"text": "yourself councelor Chang thank you through the chair also about email uh", "start": 6693.8, "end": 6699.119}, {"text": "what is the volume of emails that we've been receiving to rationalize this decision to start a new", "start": 6699.119, "end": 6706}, {"text": "pathway um I believe last year we looked at just under 100,000 emails and we saw", "start": 6706, "end": 6711.84}, {"text": "that in 23 as well as 2022 and uh you know with the 11 cents", "start": 6711.84, "end": 6719}, {"text": "for the self serve $11 for a phone call", "start": 6719, "end": 6724.719}, {"text": "where will email sit because email will definitely require much more manual triaging than the uh self- serve so will", "start": 6724.719, "end": 6733.96}, {"text": "it be somewhere in the middle or what do you think what is the estimated cost um", "start": 6733.96, "end": 6739.159}, {"text": "so that is something that is one of the reasons we actually want to run a pilot to understand the degree of efficiency", "start": 6739.159, "end": 6746}, {"text": "related to this channel so that is something that we'd have to come back 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newspaper so how are we going to make sure that we are using all", "start": 6883.4, "end": 6889.96}, {"text": "those tools in order to inspire more people to help us save their tax money", "start": 6889.96, "end": 6895.32}, {"text": "by using the self- sered portal um so that is something that we can definitely look at this year already we do uh if", "start": 6895.32, "end": 6903.32}, {"text": "somebody's waiting on the phone for example we do encourage um them to to go to the portal um it is in our email", "start": 6903.32, "end": 6910.36}, {"text": "responses back so we can look at expanding that I do believe we are doing some of it through social media as well", "start": 6910.36, "end": 6915.96}, {"text": "but we can certainly look at doing more of it like humorous videos dead raccoon", "start": 6915.96, "end": 6921.4}, {"text": "videos might help you know people get engaged uh with regard to the priority", "start": 6921.4, "end": 6928.48}, {"text": "actions uh sometimes you know I'm sure it's not always the case but we do hear about Representatives that are not", "start": 6928.48, "end": 6935.56}, {"text": "representing our city in the way that we would want them to and I'm wondering you know how because it's not in the", "start": 6935.56, "end": 6942.76}, {"text": "priority uh action list and your report to improve uh customer relationships and", "start": 6942.76, "end": 6949.8}, {"text": "Service uh in that regard so I'm wondering what aspects of this budget are invested", "start": 6949.8, "end": 6955.079}, {"text": "in improving how that response is with uh with our", "start": 6955.079, "end": 6960.8}, {"text": "residents um just so I'm clear are you talking about like our agent response yes yes um so we do uh we do have an", "start": 6960.8, "end": 6969.719}, {"text": "agent scorecard we do monitor the calls uh we are constantly doing coaching last", "start": 6969.719, "end": 6976.04}, {"text": "year we also introduced um surveys so constituents have the opportunity to com", "start": 6976.04, "end": 6982.32}, {"text": "M or provide feedback on their interaction um after a 311 call so we", "start": 6982.32, "end": 6989.639}, {"text": "monitor those um and then we use those as opportunities for coaching so it's a it's a con it's a constant improvement", "start": 6989.639, "end": 6996.44}, {"text": "process with our agents great thank you okay thank you councelor", "start": 6996.44, "end": 7003.119}, {"text": "nunziata yes I've always had a problem with 311 you've heard me over the years", "start": 7003.36, "end": 7009.44}, {"text": "so the issue is so can we get from constituents first of all when they call 311 they're put on hold they're waiting", "start": 7009.44, "end": 7016.239}, {"text": "for a long time and then another see when residents contact 311", "start": 7016.239, "end": 7023.04}, {"text": "they think they're they're contacting the counselor's office so when we don't respond to the issue and", "start": 7023.04, "end": 7030.4}, {"text": "we haven't closed the file whatever the issue is then we get calls from constituents angry at us because they", "start": 7030.4, "end": 7037.92}, {"text": "haven't heard back nothing's been resolved nothing's been done so at one point and I remember over the years CU", "start": 7037.92, "end": 7043.719}, {"text": "every year I bring up the same issue with 31 like we don't know when the calls come in to 311 the council's", "start": 7043.719, "end": 7050.8}, {"text": "office is not aware that these constituents have contacted so then we get the call yelling at us why why", "start": 7050.8, "end": 7057.36}, {"text": "didn't you do anything well we didn't get the call 311 so I encourage my residents to call our office and we", "start": 7057.36, "end": 7064.32}, {"text": "contact 311 so we can keep keep make ensure that the issues been resolved so", "start": 7064.32, "end": 7071.119}, {"text": "how can you notif by the counil so we're aware um you know that there is 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summary that um Miss CH uh chiina", "start": 7217.84, "end": 7226.48}, {"text": "described that's it for my question okay thank you uh counselor chanti is with us", "start": 7226.48, "end": 7232.28}, {"text": "virtually uh customer experience 311 uh yes uh chair thank you um I just", "start": 7232.28, "end": 7239.92}, {"text": "to pick up on what councelor nun was just speaking to on the 311 the calls", "start": 7239.92, "end": 7245.04}, {"text": "and Advising the counselor's office um I just need Clarity on that because we do not receive any information", "start": 7245.04, "end": 7252.639}, {"text": "from I got two screens here can you guys hear me okay", "start": 7252.639, "end": 7257.719}, {"text": "sh we can can you hear we can hear you and and we just see your singular face", "start": 7257.719, "end": 7262.84}, {"text": "on the screen right now oh okay I see myself twice okay all right well let me", "start": 7262.84, "end": 7268.56}, {"text": "carry on and then I'll fix it at my end it's a technical glitch here so uh just to confirm we do not receive um any um", "start": 7268.56, "end": 7277.56}, {"text": "any list of any calls uh from our constituents um on our regular basis we", "start": 7277.56, "end": 7283.199}, {"text": "receive a snapshot of maybe how many 311 calls are made uh but not individual", "start": 7283.199, "end": 7289.159}, {"text": "calls from constituents can you confirm what what you were just saying earlier", "start": 7289.159, "end": 7294.199}, {"text": "to and your response to coun J on that um so we do you're right counselor", "start": 7294.199, "end": 7301.28}, {"text": "we do share um monthly dashboards uh with a different Ward offices um as um", "start": 7301.28, "end": 7308.639}, {"text": "Mr Jore was speaking about we are also rolling out uh access to our 311", "start": 7308.639, "end": 7314.76}, {"text": "business intelligence tool that will allow counselor offices to go in and at", "start": 7314.76, "end": 7320.199}, {"text": 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are able to manage the capacity uh with the number of uh", "start": 7415.079, "end": 7421.8}, {"text": "operators we currently have sorry can you repeat the question", "start": 7421.8, "end": 7427.4}, {"text": "no I just curious if we're able to manage the capacity and let me just uh clarify that in terms of my own question", "start": 7427.4, "end": 7432.96}, {"text": "there um when we have special EV events that happen whether they're weather events or uh I remember during the time", "start": 7432.96, "end": 7439.559}, {"text": "of the um uh uh of the vacant home tax issue uh and so we were just inundated", "start": 7439.559, "end": 7446.88}, {"text": "with so many calls and I know that 311 at the time was inundated and were unable to handle the volume of calls do", "start": 7446.88, "end": 7455.079}, {"text": "we have a backup plan when there's a weather event or any kind of event to", "start": 7455.079, "end": 7460.239}, {"text": "ensure that the calls are answered answered in a timely manner and that we have a proper and better response time", "start": 7460.239, "end": 7466.36}, {"text": "um when there's a reason to have that uh so we do our best to handle those Peak", "start": 7466.36, "end": 7472}, {"text": "volumes so in the case of vht for example we did augment um our our staff", "start": 7472, "end": 7478.04}, {"text": "uh complement to handle the anticipated out of volume we do also use uh", "start": 7478.04, "end": 7484}, {"text": "part-time staff to help us uh through those Peaks and valleys as", "start": 7484, "end": 7489.28}, {"text": "well all right and and just want question so so what happens from time to time we've heard from our constituents", "start": 7489.28, "end": 7495.679}, {"text": "where people call in uh they're transferred to uh a department whatever", "start": 7495.679, "end": 7500.96}, {"text": "the issue is and um and then there's no one at the other end there's no response and then they have to start all over", "start": 7500.96, "end": 7507.36}, {"text": "again from the start and and and call back in is there a way of fixing that", "start": 7507.36, "end": 7512.719}, {"text": "problem where the 311 operator if they're going to transfer someone to another individual they stay on the line", "start": 7512.719, "end": 7519.48}, {"text": "on that transfer to ensure that they have been connected to take the level of service you know a little higher up uh", "start": 7519.48, "end": 7527.92}, {"text": "and uh ensure that they and if there's no response then the operator continues", "start": 7527.92, "end": 7533.44}, {"text": "to communicate with them on the next steps uh so through the chair we do", "start": 7533.44, "end": 7539.239}, {"text": "there are some cases where we do need to transfer um a call if it's something that we cannot address we we will do", "start": 7539.239, "end": 7547.32}, {"text": "what we call a warm transfer and we try our best to stay on the call with the caller while we're transitioning if", 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"Capital it may continue on further on as we've seen through other programs as people repay we've used that money to", "start": 7678.44, "end": 7683.719}, {"text": "continue to kind of revolve programs okay is similar work underway for solar", "start": 7683.719, "end": 7688.84}, {"text": "panels in collaboration with Toronto Hydro so for solar panels uh we are looking at uh potential opportunities", "start": 7688.84, "end": 7696.679}, {"text": "and not just with Toronto Hydro but also with the atmospheric fund who has been focused specifically on on solar and", "start": 7696.679, "end": 7704.04}, {"text": "energy storage so uh that is part of the discussion that we're happening uh that is happening and potentially if there's", "start": 7704.04, "end": 7710.92}, {"text": "another program could dovetail with this um but this one specifically is focused on heat pump adoption okay great thank", "start": 7710.92, "end": 7717.96}, {"text": "you okay okay uh are there other questions of environment and client", "start": 7717.96, "end": 7723.92}, {"text": "councelor morle uh uh oh councelor morle moist chank how about we do that back and forth back and forth councelor nunzi", "start": 7723.92, "end": 7730.599}, {"text": "you didn't have any questions okay thank you madam chair uh through you to our colleagues I I just wanted to uh dig", "start": 7730.599, "end": 7737.239}, {"text": "into and I was going to ask about the heat pumps so that's great thank you for sharing that information um with regards", "start": 7737.239, "end": 7742.8}, {"text": "to a air conditioner pilot program uh for renters can you talk to us a little", "start": 7742.8, "end": 7748}, {"text": "bit more about that and um the anticipated impact as well as the cost", "start": 7748, "end": 7754.28}, {"text": "uh so this uh this pilot program comes out of some of the feedback that we've", "start": 7754.28, "end": 7759.92}, {"text": "heard um as recently as uh as December related to extreme heat and the 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"this pilot program got it thank you so much those are my questions okay uh councelor Moy thank you and M chair um", "start": 7963.199, "end": 7971.239}, {"text": "few questions what accounted for the overages in materials and supplies and", "start": 7971.239, "end": 7977}, {"text": "equipment in 2024 are you expecting to remain un budget this", "start": 7977, "end": 7983.598}, {"text": "year yes so so in terms of 2024 I think the overages uh well fairly minor were", "start": 7993.52, "end": 8000.44}, {"text": "around our reach an engagement uh so we undertook and we had more opportunities um for uh for Community", "start": 8000.44, "end": 8008}, {"text": "engagement so we increased uh the number of sessions that we had and and engagement in the community and so that", "start": 8008, "end": 8014.32}, {"text": "required additional kind of supplies uh material for that activities okay and", "start": 8014.32, "end": 8020.119}, {"text": "regards to the air conditioning how will these air 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next summer the summer after um when we", "start": 8067.32, "end": 8073.599}, {"text": "potentially could have extreme heat events these are probably these are these Technologies are easier to deploy", "start": 8073.599, "end": 8080.48}, {"text": "uh and faster but I think in the long term we are looking at that expansion of heat pumps so you have the cooling and", "start": 8080.48, "end": 8086.639}, {"text": "the heating uh but that has a larger electricity demand so it sometimes takes a bit more work at the building level", "start": 8086.639, "end": 8093.28}, {"text": "especially as you deploy them in in in a larger scale to ensure that um the systems in various buildings can can", "start": 8093.28, "end": 8099.719}, {"text": "accept uh that level of electrification okay uh just to add to that so what kind", "start": 8099.719, "end": 8105.599}, {"text": "of Investments do we need from the province and the FEDS to help us meet our mission targets", "start": 8105.599, "end": 8111.679}, {"text": "then uh so I would say in terms of Investments um really is around uh those", "start": 8111.679, "end": 8118.599}, {"text": "grants that help to reduce that upfront capital Capital costs so for example the provincial in Investments announced last", "start": 8118.599, "end": 8125.239}, {"text": "week um are very helpful in that regard because they provide that uh that additional dollars that kind of uh", "start": 8125.239, "end": 8132.28}, {"text": "reduces the cost that up front cost to an individual so it makes it more economic to for example buy heat pump", "start": 8132.28, "end": 8137.559}, {"text": "instead of just buying your old furnace and then you will see the operating savings over time um so I think that", "start": 8137.559, "end": 8144.119}, {"text": "type of investment but also Investments around policies and programs that provide certainty and I would I would", "start": 8144.119, "end": 8150.48}, {"text": "mention maybe the other areas around training and 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8377.478}, {"text": "change versus focusing on infrastructure and what is a percentage uh of their", "start": 8377.479, "end": 8383.88}, {"text": "impact in terms of being able to achieve the goal so what role do citizens play", "start": 8383.88, "end": 8389.68}, {"text": "in our behaviors uh and what impediment are we right now to getting to Net", "start": 8389.68, "end": 8396.439}, {"text": "Zero uh so Community emissions are about 95% so it is significant and that's", "start": 8396.439, "end": 8402.6}, {"text": "that's across residents and businesses and I can go deep into numbers but it is there is a lot of both behavioral change", "start": 8402.6, "end": 8410.2}, {"text": "um but also adoption of new technologies heat pumps a a good example of that a common technology around the world", "start": 8410.2, "end": 8416.88}, {"text": "widely available but people are used to how they've always he did their home and cooled their home and often go for like", "start": 8416.88, "end": 8423.479}, {"text": "for like replacement so part of his education on what is new technology to them around uh what exists and part of", "start": 8423.479, "end": 8430.52}, {"text": "it then is again around behav real Behavior change uh not driving taking Transit active Transportation uh in", "start": 8430.52, "end": 8437.24}, {"text": "terms of our work we have a unit that is focused almost exclusively on that and", "start": 8437.24, "end": 8442.479}, {"text": "they the budget for them is around uh nearly $3 million though I will say this this kind of the the work around", "start": 8442.479, "end": 8449}, {"text": "behavioral change flows through through everything that we do but they are focused specifically on Outreach", "start": 8449, "end": 8454.399}, {"text": "engagement training as well as creating uh connections at the community level", "start": 8454.399, "end": 8459.479}, {"text": "that could be through our neighborhood climate action grants our neighborhood climate Champions program our indigenous", "start": 8459.479, "end": 8464.68}, {"text": "climate action grants um and uh we doing work with the Toronto School Board there's a whole host of programs we're", "start": 8464.68, "end": 8471.439}, {"text": "really looking to connect with people um to help them understand what can be D about climate change what are the", "start": 8471.439, "end": 8477.8}, {"text": "specific steps that they can do but also to bring that into broader communities uh that they work with um to really", "start": 8477.8, "end": 8485.2}, {"text": "start to demystify some of the challenges around climate change it's either too big it's somebody else's", "start": 8485.2, "end": 8490.76}, {"text": "issue it is all the little things that can be done but also that it doesn't necessarily mean that everything changes", "start": 8490.76, "end": 8497.72}, {"text": "a lot of what has to be done is available right now it's just the adoption of that different technology", "start": 8497.72, "end": 8502.76}, {"text": "and how can we measure the impact of our investment in this area to ensure that", "start": 8502.76, "end": 8508.6}, {"text": "we are seeing the changes that need to get us to achieving our Net Zero goals", "start": 8508.6, "end": 8514.56}, {"text": "it it is a challenge I will say to measure that we we we typically measure that based on the number of", "start": 8514.56, "end": 8520.92}, {"text": "interactions uh we base that on the the type of feedback we get a lot of", "start": 8520.92, "end": 8526.04}, {"text": "qualitative we are doing a program review this year though of uh our community- based grants and and Outreach", "start": 8526.04, "end": 8532.76}, {"text": "to look at opportunities to find how we can measure that in a more concrete way um but it is not necessarily something", "start": 8532.76, "end": 8540.16}, {"text": "can that that one can measure in terms of you know a a heat pump uptake for example it really is about seeing that", "start": 8540.16, "end": 8546.88}, {"text": "happen in Trends across the community over time um for example on cycling we", "start": 8546.88, "end": 8552.28}, {"text": "see that Trend go up year over-ear in terms of both the work we do but especially the work that happens through", "start": 8552.28, "end": 8557.72}, {"text": "transportation services that really again is about behavioral change so on that note so in last question in the in", "start": 8557.72, "end": 8564.68}, {"text": "BBS uh we're getting bike lanes and they are a lot emptier than what we see", "start": 8564.68, "end": 8571.479}, {"text": "downtown and there are people in cars who are very frustrated when they see", "start": 8571.479, "end": 8577.08}, {"text": "the empty bike Lanes uh because of the economic investment and because of", "start": 8577.08, "end": 8582.24}, {"text": "sometimes the risk of losing driving space so just wondering what is the", "start": 8582.24, "end": 8587.76}, {"text": "investment towards fostering the cych that behavior change and adoption that", "start": 8587.76, "end": 8595.12}, {"text": "we are hoping to see for Net Zero so I'll start and I'll invite uh Barbara to", "start": 8595.12, "end": 8600.2}, {"text": "join in as well so part of this will be that community outreach the work that we do at the community level engaging", "start": 8600.2, "end": 8606.52}, {"text": "different organizations working with stakeholders I think this year uh there is another opportunity in that specific", "start": 8606.52, "end": 8613.56}, {"text": "to something like cycling active transportation and and Transit we are also uh moving our smart commute program", "start": 8613.56, "end": 8620.68}, {"text": "which set with us over into and you'll see this in the in the budget information over into transportation", "start": 8620.68, "end": 8625.92}, {"text": "services provide for a more integrated approach to connecting with uh", "start": 8625.92, "end": 8630.96}, {"text": "communities around all of these mode changes the opportunities helping them", "start": 8630.96, "end": 8636.08}, {"text": "understand how they can access that that Transportation Network and Barbara and I'm I'm going to be fairly tough here I", "start": 8636.08, "end": 8642.56}, {"text": "would really like to get to where Transportation was presenting their budget to us so at 5: to 12 I'm going to", "start": 8642.56, "end": 8648.56}, {"text": "do a bit of a reality check uh uh councelor Chang's five minutes were were elaps there um we are in danger of not", "start": 8648.56, "end": 8656.88}, {"text": "finishing this cluster before lunch um so we we're about to I'm bringing Fleet", "start": 8656.88, "end": 8662.08}, {"text": "Services forward next and we need to remember that Fleet Services manages a fleet but they don't make all the", "start": 8662.08, "end": 8667.24}, {"text": "decisions that the divisions that get their Fleet from Fleet so I really want people to zero in on the the budgets", "start": 8667.24, "end": 8674.279}, {"text": "themselves because we have Fleet Services left to do we have the office of the Chief Information Security", "start": 8674.279, "end": 8680.52}, {"text": "Officer and Technology Services still to get through and I think I think there are some questions in all three of those", "start": 8680.52, "end": 8686.04}, {"text": "areas but we really got to stick to the budget um we have all year to find out", "start": 8686.04, "end": 8691.2}, {"text": "how things work uh but we are going to be here very late unless we really start", "start": 8691.2, "end": 8696.359}, {"text": "drilling down to the budgets so thank you Mr Nunan uh I think that's it for", "start": 8696.359, "end": 8702.2}, {"text": "environment and climate we're going to Fleet Services and let's remember what Fleet Services", "start": 8702.2, "end": 8708.96}, {"text": "does questions on Fleet Service I'm going to ask uh from uh outside committee first councelor nunziata", "start": 8710, "end": 8716.439}, {"text": "nothing on fleet uh virtual participants I don't see you so I'm passing you by", "start": 8716.439, "end": 8722.68}, {"text": "and going on to councelor Melby thank you two two questions and if", "start": 8722.68, "end": 8728.319}, {"text": "you don't have it maybe you can follow up with it um of your 8,000 Vehicles", "start": 8728.319, "end": 8733.359}, {"text": "what percentage is electric and do you have calculated amounts around fuel cost savings that you have through the", "start": 8733.359, "end": 8739.399}, {"text": "transition to electric and what's the ROI yes uh through the chair so as of", "start": 8739.399, "end": 8745.84}, {"text": "right now we have roughly 300 Vehicles that's Electric in our Fleet we're adding about another 100 vehicles to our", "start": 8745.84, "end": 8751.8}, {"text": "our Fleet um the city fleet that we manage is roughly around 8% but when we look at the city wide we're around", "start": 8751.8, "end": 8758.64}, {"text": "12% in terms of the ROI our calculations right now is on a 10-year life cycle of", "start": 8758.64, "end": 8763.8}, {"text": "a light duty asset it's around $6,500 of savings in in maintenance um and then I", "start": 8763.8, "end": 8770.68}, {"text": "believe it was around uh another $2,000 of savings in fuel um for the", "start": 8770.68, "end": 8776.84}, {"text": "life cycle of the asset which is around 10 years so do you do you have a roll up and can you say like for every that", "start": 8776.84, "end": 8783.2}, {"text": "we're investing 100 Vehicles this year and over the 10 years that would save us x amount of dollars can you get that and", "start": 8783.2, "end": 8789.56}, {"text": "send that yes through the speaker we can definitely do it and I also want to highlight there's also operational improvements that we've seen such as the", "start": 8789.56, "end": 8795.84}, {"text": "availability of the asset on average these assets are performing on 98% availability even into the fifth year of", "start": 8795.84, "end": 8802.399}, {"text": "the life cycle of the asset okay thank you those are your questions okay uh", "start": 8802.399, "end": 8808.88}, {"text": "councilor Moy questions of Fleet Services on this side that that was", "start": 8808.88, "end": 8814.76}, {"text": "short thank you so much okay uh so we're moving on to the siso Chief Information", "start": 8814.76, "end": 8821.52}, {"text": "Security", "start": 8821.52, "end": 8824.079}, {"text": "Officer welcome okay um uh questions on cyber security uh", "start": 8837.279, "end": 8844.68}, {"text": "councelor nunziata uh I think we I think we lost our virtual attendees are the questions for the siso uh councelor", "start": 8844.68, "end": 8851.96}, {"text": "Morley mayor Morley thanks Madam chair through you um to our colleagues thank you for being here uh we know in 2024 we", "start": 8851.96, "end": 8860.24}, {"text": "saw I don't know unprecedented is the right word but you know a number of challenges around cyber security", "start": 8860.24, "end": 8866.16}, {"text": "specifically with some of our agency partners I know the office has been deeply involved and collaborative in", "start": 8866.16, "end": 8871.6}, {"text": "those uh I'm just wondering if the budget um before us is um what you need", "start": 8871.6, "end": 8877.96}, {"text": "to ensure that we can continue to get ahead of and um better ensure um our", "start": 8877.96, "end": 8884.2}, {"text": "resilience or our sort of protection against future cyber attacks Madam speaker um our new enhance does include", "start": 8884.2, "end": 8892.319}, {"text": "bringing on board the agencies and includes the licenses that will need to you know enhance their monitoring and", "start": 8892.319, "end": 8899.16}, {"text": "their maturity now now the incidents that happened in 2024 early 2024 uh we really shared those lessons", "start": 8899.16, "end": 8907.92}, {"text": "uh throughout our divisions agencies and corporations so just with that activity itself the maturity level has risen um", "start": 8907.92, "end": 8915.56}, {"text": "but we feel our budget is enough to continue what we're doing and expand to the agencies and corporations wonderful", "start": 8915.56, "end": 8922.24}, {"text": "um just a quick comment as a as a member of one of those boards um you know the", "start": 8922.24, "end": 8927.479}, {"text": "support from from you all was invaluable to getting to resolution and ensuring that we are um in a good situation on", "start": 8927.479, "end": 8933.96}, {"text": "the go forward so thank you for your good work and that's all I have uh questions for the ciso uh", "start": 8933.96, "end": 8941.6}, {"text": "councelor Moyes uh I apologize if I repeat your question because I wasn't", "start": 8941.6, "end": 8946.8}, {"text": "paying attention I'm being totally honest uh so there has been cyber attacks against City agencies over the", "start": 8946.8, "end": 8952.8}, {"text": "last few years and I see 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9304.2, "end": 9309.279}, {"text": "power is there a potential perhaps to have a a further conversation with counselors to come up with a plan for", "start": 9309.279, "end": 9317.04}, {"text": "how maybe we can because I know our CRM costs were included in a Clerk's budget", "start": 9317.04, "end": 9323.84}, {"text": "um so somehow I think we're doing a lot of duplicate duplicate buying at the scale of because I know councelor Moyes", "start": 9323.84, "end": 9331.12}, {"text": "uses a lot of technology so but your role would be a reduced budget uh A", "start": 9331.12, "end": 9337.96}, {"text": "reduced cost because of the Enterprise scale of buying that you're doing absolutely we can um we can meet with", "start": 9337.96, "end": 9344.6}, {"text": "clerks as well as yourselves on your needs and and just look at uh how we can", "start": 9344.6, "end": 9349.72}, {"text": "support that uh We've really strengthened our contract NE negotiations team and our contract", "start": 9349.72, "end": 9355.279}, {"text": "management so we're absolutely um available to look at that for sure and", "start": 9355.279, "end": 9360.8}, {"text": "uh there is a goal in our city to provide more free Wi-Fi access and just", "start": 9360.8, "end": 9366}, {"text": "wondering what is the allocation for that and has is it changing from last", "start": 9366, "end": 9371.279}, {"text": "year uh through the chair we our connect too program which is our free public Wi-Fi program um is still going strong", "start": 9371.279, "end": 9378.52}, {"text": "in 2024 we added about 35 36 sites and into 2025 2026 we still have Capital", "start": 9378.52, "end": 9385.279}, {"text": "allocated I believe it's around $600,000 so it's it's sustained it hasn't it", "start": 9385.279, "end": 9390.8}, {"text": "hasn't gone down we we intend on keeping that program alive great thank you those are my", "start": 9390.8, "end": 9395.84}, {"text": "questions okay thank you uh councelor Moyes Madam chair so given that the", "start": 9395.84, "end": 9401.399}, {"text": "budget for technology Services aims to have positive equity and Reconciliation impacts for indigenous black and Equity", "start": 9401.399, "end": 9408.8}, {"text": "serving groups could you provide specific metrics or benchmarks that will be used to assess", "start": 9408.8, "end": 9415.24}, {"text": "the success of these initiatives and how will the outcomes be tracked to ensure", "start": 9415.24, "end": 9420.68}, {"text": "their success particularly for the most UN undeserved communities to the chair thank you for", "start": 9420.68, "end": 9426.68}, {"text": "your question um so we a few years ago launched our disf which is our digital", "start": 9426.68, "end": 9433.04}, {"text": "um strategic framework which incorporates um that that um that", "start": 9433.04, "end": 9438.359}, {"text": "philosophy uh there's a couple things we do um to make sure that we're advancing as best as we can there were some", "start": 9438.359, 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w rationalize and really standardize across the city great", "start": 9705.76, "end": 9712.08}, {"text": "thank you good work okay and I think those are the questions okay I'm in your hands", "start": 9712.08, "end": 9718.68}, {"text": "counselors uh remember uh we're just doing for for the next cluster for infrastructure we're just going to do", "start": 9718.68, "end": 9725.04}, {"text": "the the presentation and then boom goes straight into the divisions if we want", "start": 9725.04, "end": 9730.68}, {"text": "uh and if if Mr djano wants to talk really fast we could do that cluster", "start": 9730.68, "end": 9735.88}, {"text": "presentation before breaking for lunch and then we'd just be straight into Toronto water when we come", "start": 9735.88, "end": 9741.8}, {"text": "back okay okay here we go I I think I can hold them even if you", "start": 9741.8, "end": 9749.479}, {"text": "go a minute or two over though Mr it's my pleasure a certain amount of goodwi built up thank you thank you very", "start": 9749.479, "end": 9756.279}, {"text": "much Madam chair and and budget committee members uh as you know I'm representing will today and so I'll be", "start": 9756.279, "end": 9762.84}, {"text": "presenting um the infrastructure Services budget um while it's being loaded I will attempt to cut out a lot", "start": 9762.84, "end": 9770.04}, {"text": "of the extra words to try to get it done uh by 12:30 for you and I'll try to just", "start": 9770.04, "end": 9775.8}, {"text": "highlight some of the key numbers in the slide so you understand uh the work that was done by the division heads because", "start": 9775.8, "end": 9781.8}, {"text": "there's been uh a large amount of work completed um and you'll see it in the", "start": 9781.8, "end": 9787.2}, {"text": "numbers that a lot of the divisions were given 0% targets and and uh most of them", "start": 9787.2, "end": 9794}, {"text": "met that so that's that's the quick short good news so we can concentrate on that uh 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managing that construction and coordinating that and to keep Toronto moving has been", "start": 9931.2, "end": 9937.24}, {"text": "challenging and requires dedicated support and I'll speak to that in the in the next slide in Solid Waste Management", "start": 9937.24, "end": 9943.92}, {"text": "division they're experiencing some challenges with respect uh to increasing demand for organic processing as well as", "start": 9943.92, "end": 9950.96}, {"text": "responding to legislative changes uh under the environmental assessment act which is impacting their long-term", "start": 9950.96, "end": 9956.64}, {"text": "availability for landfill space so that's a key concern um some of the or", "start": 9956.64, "end": 9962.88}, {"text": "many of our divisions are empowered through different provincial legislation and regulations and some recent changes", "start": 9962.88, "end": 9969.2}, {"text": "by The Province are impacting Service delivery so we have to take that into account when we're 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15045.279, "end": 15053.199}, {"text": "can we we're starting Toronto water okay councelor NAD you want to go first yes", "start": 15053.199, "end": 15059.6}, {"text": "okay so to Lou first of all rockcliff uh we called it hurricane", "start": 15059.6, "end": 15065.199}, {"text": "Francis Rick remember one one year um so what's um um um What's happen in with", "start": 15065.199, "end": 15074.6}, {"text": "the project uh in rockliffe uh we did receive $150 million from the federal", "start": 15074.6, "end": 15080.88}, {"text": "government so can you give me the status on when we're starting it um because this has", "start": 15080.88, "end": 15087.319}, {"text": "been going on for the last 10 15 years okay uh I I will I will talk about what", "start": 15087.319, "end": 15092.8}, {"text": "we have in the Toronto water budget then I'll ask um Barbara gray um or jacine to", "start": 15092.8, "end": 15098.92}, {"text": "answer the specifics of where where we're at in the status of design 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received from the federal government is that going to Bridges or to because we just received", "start": 15144.52, "end": 15151.119}, {"text": "that funding the CH it is actually being split between a couple of of the", "start": 15151.119, "end": 15157.56}, {"text": "projects so toron water's getting um some of that contribution and transportation's getting some of that", "start": 15157.56, "end": 15162.8}, {"text": "contri ution so if you want to give a status update of where you at jacn has SP 20 years absolutely councel we um are", "start": 15162.8, "end": 15170}, {"text": "working very closely with trca and with Toronto water as a strategic Capital coordination project uh on that", "start": 15170, "end": 15176.199}, {"text": "portfolio as well and the status update is that the RFP for the design and", "start": 15176.199, "end": 15182.199}, {"text": "construction administration of the first of the bridges with Jane Street um is", "start": 15182.199, "end": 15187.92}, {"text": "was awarded in late 2024 and we anticipate construction to start in 26 or early 27 so we're underway with", "start": 15187.92, "end": 15194.479}, {"text": "design of of that massive Bridge replacement so at what point should we get back to the residents that been", "start": 15194.479, "end": 15200.04}, {"text": "waiting all these years just to give them an update that we are we actually doing the work and and and you know that", "start": 15200.04, "end": 15207.239}, {"text": "we received the funding from the federal government we we need to give them an update we just can't keep them you know", "start": 15207.239, "end": 15213}, {"text": "waiting we're happy to work with your office TRC and Tron water to update on the status of of each so we'll Havey to", "start": 15213, "end": 15219.199}, {"text": "connect with you offline okay and then I have other questions for transportation n if I can just interject because it is", "start": 15219.199, "end": 15225.56}, {"text": "split between two divisions if you wanted to prepare a briefing note request on it so you have something on", "start": 15225.56, "end": 15230.88}, {"text": "paper I'd be happy to move it on your behalf if you could please because as you know uh this has been going on for", "start": 15230.88, "end": 15236.6}, {"text": "years and you know like and I work so hard to get the 150 million from the", "start": 15236.6, "end": 15242.04}, {"text": "federal government and so you know people are waiting for something to happen they have that P one page be so", "start": 15242.04, "end": 15249.6}, {"text": "it is a complicated set of projects be easier to I know and and the mayor did talk at one", "start": 15249.6, "end": 15256.84}, {"text": "point what we should do with those 200 homes right so uh so to to Lou um the uh the", "start": 15256.84, "end": 15264.8}, {"text": "money for and I know we sent all the applications to all those residents that were flooded the money for the rebate", "start": 15264.8, "end": 15271.439}, {"text": "that we're giving them the 7500 is that included in your budget yes it's in it's in our capital account for basement", "start": 15271.439, "end": 15278.239}, {"text": "flooding protection so the funding is in place for that the funding is in place for once all the applications have been", "start": 15278.239, "end": 15284.04}, {"text": "submitted into you right that's correct okay I just want to make sure that because they're they're all filling out", "start": 15284.04, "end": 15289.159}, {"text": "their applications we don't want to get back to them and say we don't have money no no that that the funding is in place", "start": 15289.159, "end": 15294.439}, {"text": "it's a matter of processing the applications and and going through the adjustment process okay thank", "start": 15294.439, "end": 15300.399}, {"text": "you okay um so uh actually I I see uh councelor chernos lnn on Virtual", "start": 15300.399, "end": 15307.68}, {"text": "councelor attel slnn we're doing questions on Toronto water right now did you have any questions of Toronto Waters", "start": 15307.68, "end": 15314.119}, {"text": "budget okay oh I'm okay but thank you I'm in and out uh in between meetings so", "start": 15314.119, "end": 15319.479}, {"text": "appreciate do I have any other virtual attendees okay not seeing any okay so", "start": 15319.479, "end": 15324.76}, {"text": "we're we're coming inside committee then um uh questions on Toronto", "start": 15324.76, "end": 15330.8}, {"text": "water councelor changen she said just one but she said it quietly", "start": 15330.8, "end": 15336.279}, {"text": "so um thank you through the chair just uh about the storm water charge that", "start": 15336.279, "end": 15342}, {"text": "then got sold as a storm water tax that then created an upare in the city but we", "start": 15342, "end": 15347.84}, {"text": "know that good policy can incentivize people to make good decisions uh that", "start": 15347.84, "end": 15353.76}, {"text": "can prevent the flooding that we see on an increasing basis so just wondering in", "start": 15353.76, "end": 15358.96}, {"text": "this budget um what where does that fit in is it still being Revisited and is", "start": 15358.96, "end": 15365.56}, {"text": "there a pathway towards creating that um", "start": 15365.56, "end": 15370.8}, {"text": "program or bringing it back in a new way that won't get misconstrued so so Madam chair after the", "start": 15370.8, "end": 15379.119}, {"text": "storms that we had this summer council did move a series of of uh motions", "start": 15379.119, "end": 15384.88}, {"text": "giving us direction to go away and look at U doing some uh further consultation and work specifically looking at storm", "start": 15384.88, "end": 15392.319}, {"text": "water incentives uh looking at some issues on impervious pavement um looking at", "start": 15392.319, "end": 15399.52}, {"text": "Green programs um and and and having us report back so we did that consultation", "start": 15399.52, "end": 15406.119}, {"text": "uh and we did that in in coordination with the commercial parking Levy that we needed to go talk about both issues and", "start": 15406.119, "end": 15413}, {"text": "we also did it with the um the energy environment and for the got forry now in", "start": 15413, "end": 15420.399}, {"text": "them we we we did that work together we are reporting back on that um in this", "start": 15420.399, "end": 15426.399}, {"text": "upcoming executive committee and so staff recommendations you will see uh there so with respect to budget", "start": 15426.399, "end": 15433.52}, {"text": "Provisions we've made some budget Provisions for uh the recommendations for incentives that", "start": 15433.52, "end": 15440.92}, {"text": "you'll find in that report so we made certain allocations in this budget should Council adopt the recommendations", "start": 15440.92, "end": 15446.96}, {"text": "you're about to see um we do have to report back on the programs with 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gray is jealous of", "start": 15490.92, "end": 15495.96}, {"text": "the funding for her thank you okay thank you councelor Chang", "start": 15495.96, "end": 15502.399}, {"text": "councelor Morley we're on Toronto water do you have Toronto water questions no okay councelor", "start": 15502.399, "end": 15508.72}, {"text": "perks o there you go okay councelor councelor Melby that's", "start": 15508.72, "end": 15515.52}, {"text": "it okay that's it for Toronto water questions I'm not sure it'll be the same in Council but there you go", "start": 15515.52, "end": 15523.64}, {"text": "okay uh Solid Waste Management is next oh there they", "start": 15523.64, "end": 15529.84}, {"text": "are afternoon uh okay so Solid Waste Management Services uh councelor", "start": 15537.52, "end": 15545.438}, {"text": "nunziata you may absolutely so at the last Council me I think it was the last", "start": 15547.479, "end": 15553.92}, {"text": "Council me we talked about increasing the fees for the for the 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15599.479, "end": 15604.92}, {"text": "the homeowners okay so that that would be you'll be doing that this year absolutely but are we still going to be", "start": 15604.92, "end": 15610.6}, {"text": "giving them that the small bins that increase through the the chair yes", "start": 15610.6, "end": 15615.96}, {"text": "that's part of the rate increase program but again if you're moving from a medium bin or a large bin down to a small bin", "start": 15615.96, "end": 15622.319}, {"text": "there's substantial savings there so so to encourage and give incentive to", "start": 15622.319, "end": 15627.8}, {"text": "homeowners why that increase that you have for the smaller bins why don't you just pass it on to the large", "start": 15627.8, "end": 15633.84}, {"text": "bins through the the chair um that would be uh the direction of council and and", "start": 15633.84, "end": 15639.04}, {"text": "we could uh accommodate that if directed cuz that would be incentive and people would would get the 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15696.239}, {"text": "up from the province and can you just highlight for us what investments in this budget and what uh approaches we", "start": 15696.239, "end": 15702.72}, {"text": "are looking at to um align with with that new", "start": 15702.72, "end": 15708.08}, {"text": "process sure um through the chair in this budget it's really status quo uh", "start": 15708.08, "end": 15714.56}, {"text": "the city will continue to collect uh All Recycling and move that recycling", "start": 15714.56, "end": 15720.6}, {"text": "through our Transfer Station Network on behalf of circular materials the producer uh we do get full cost recovery", "start": 15720.6, "end": 15728.88}, {"text": "uh from circular materials to do that work and and over the next year we will", "start": 15728.88, "end": 15734.159}, {"text": "be planning a number of public education campaigns uh to inform residents that as", "start": 15734.159, "end": 15739.84}, {"text": "of 2026 uh the city will no longer be collecting be responsible for collecting", "start": 15739.84, "end": 15745.399}, {"text": "or collecting uh the recycling at at the curb so that's within our public", "start": 15745.399, "end": 15750.84}, {"text": "education budget for this year as well cost recovery is always good words", "start": 15750.84, "end": 15757.239}, {"text": "to hear at budget time thank you so much those are all my questions okay thank you um take it in counter Moy yeah thank", "start": 15757.239, "end": 15764.64}, {"text": "you and three Madam speaker so I've been told that your division is is responsible for cleaning our laneways uh", "start": 15764.64, "end": 15772.239}, {"text": "whereas transportation services is responsible for cleaning roads and sidewalks is that", "start": 15772.239, "end": 15778.479}, {"text": "true through the chair yes we do clean uh laneways in and around the urban core", "start": 15778.479, "end": 15783.68}, {"text": "yes okay so then shouldn't you also have targets and metrics for regular 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right sizing the the complement and hiring temporary staff where needed instead of full-time", "start": 16278.68, "end": 16285.119}, {"text": "permanent roles again there will be some policy pieces brought forward to Council", "start": 16285.119, "end": 16290.319}, {"text": "on different work that has the potential of being brought in again to mitigate some of those potential position losses", "start": 16290.319, "end": 16297.359}, {"text": "not job losses and we'll be bringing those forward in approximately Q2 of", "start": 16297.359, "end": 16302.479}, {"text": "this year okay and lastly um uh your uh I can't find the page now your Capital", "start": 16302.479, "end": 16308.88}, {"text": "plan for number of years you were kind of at a low spend rate but I in the", "start": 16308.88, "end": 16314}, {"text": "variance report you were projecting to to actually get it up to to uh uh more", "start": 16314, "end": 16319.92}, {"text": "of the standard we want around 80% and now here we are 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"where we uh need it and we're not just asking for for funds to to set aside for", "start": 16363.279, "end": 16368.56}, {"text": "capital projects that we're not getting done so what we ask for we spend and and over the past number of years we're", "start": 16368.56, "end": 16373.64}, {"text": "really showing that uh to be true fantastic okay those are my questions I think that's it for this division then", "start": 16373.64, "end": 16380.119}, {"text": "thank you so much so we are going on to ECS then", "start": 16380.119, "end": 16388.08}, {"text": "engineering and Construction Services", "start": 16388.08, "end": 16392.6}, {"text": "uh no according to my list we're going to do ECS and then then Municipal", "start": 16393.199, "end": 16398.76}, {"text": "licensing not so fast we're saving it because we want to", "start": 16399.76, "end": 16405.879}, {"text": "spend a long time", "start": 16405.879, "end": 16409.4}, {"text": "on not that we don't all care deeply about engineering and 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the chair uh what we have established is that we have sent out the", "start": 16553.48, "end": 16559.359}, {"text": "2025 Capital Works program to all the ward counselors and we have done we have", "start": 16559.359, "end": 16565.92}, {"text": "done a Outreach to your offices um to establish any follow-up meetings or", "start": 16565.92, "end": 16571.24}, {"text": "brief so we actually have uh received a couple of requests from a couple of counselors already um I think in terms", "start": 16571.24, "end": 16579.08}, {"text": "of the liaison that's probably a separate piece for ECS I'm going to turn it over to Jen to answer that yes thanks", "start": 16579.08, "end": 16586.439}, {"text": "Judy I will take that so through the chair we have added two additional positions within ECS for uh councilor", "start": 16586.439, "end": 16594.561}, {"text": "liaison and supporting our community engagement what we have done in the past year was We have reorganized", "start": 16594.561, "end": 16602.039}, {"text": "the uh Community engagement group within ECS to provide enhanced service and", "start": 16602.039, "end": 16607.959}, {"text": "these additional resources will further strengthen it that's part one the second part is that as part of our project", "start": 16607.959, "end": 16614.68}, {"text": "management contract management and capital projects review we did a deeper dive into um further things that we", "start": 16614.68, "end": 16622.639}, {"text": "could do to enhance counselor engagement as well as the community as we deliver", "start": 16622.639, "end": 16627.799}, {"text": "projects through the capital process so I I'll follow up with you online because I did receive a list of capital projects", "start": 16627.799, "end": 16634.52}, {"text": "but I think there's also all those smaller projects that are included through a little bit on cycling a little", "start": 16634.52, "end": 16640.6}, {"text": "bit here a little bit there and I don't know that we have colleted lists by word on on those um between all divisions and", "start": 16640.6, "end": 16648}, {"text": "so anyway we can follow up on that but that's where we get into those conflicts where you have a project ripping up one", "start": 16648, "end": 16654.199}, {"text": "road here for water I'm looking at youu and then around the corner Transportation ripping up another road", "start": 16654.199, "end": 16660.84}, {"text": "and and that's where we start to to miss things so that list isn't being presented to counselors yet so um maybe", "start": 16660.84, "end": 16668.08}, {"text": "we can cycle back on where that's all at yeah through the chair we can", "start": 16668.08, "end": 16674.16}, {"text": "absolutely do that um I just wanted to clarify that the list that we had sent out is a coordinated list for", "start": 16674.16, "end": 16680.48}, {"text": "2025 and uh we can certainly have those conversations yeah because I think the", "start": 16680.48, "end": 16686.119}, {"text": 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councelor nunziata", "start": 16975.638, "end": 16983.44}, {"text": "okay Carlton Francis", "start": 16986.04, "end": 16992.958}, {"text": "so Carlton as hello Newman as you as you know and I'm sure", "start": 16996.56, "end": 17004.56}, {"text": "other couns too the majority of calls that we get in in the office is Municipal licensing issues right and um", "start": 17004.56, "end": 17014.16}, {"text": "you know in a lot of the new programs that Council has approved recently which", "start": 17014.16, "end": 17020.4}, {"text": "in the question of has always asked enforcement enforcement do we have enforcement so in your budget Does it", "start": 17020.4, "end": 17027}, {"text": "include because that's that's that area is an area where constantly even the", "start": 17027, "end": 17032.76}, {"text": "calls coming in 311 is complain about garbage and you know music and and", "start": 17032.76, "end": 17039}, {"text": "everything else uh illegal uh businesses and so forth so in your", 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"end": 17136.24}, {"text": "will be done by our colleagues in Toronto building uh what this budget does is put", "start": 17136.24, "end": 17142.4}, {"text": "an investment into enforcement around animal services and that is an area that", "start": 17142.4, "end": 17149}, {"text": "hasn't had the same investment that the other areas of our program has and as a", "start": 17149, "end": 17154.08}, {"text": "result this budget does include a investment in animal services to deal", "start": 17154.08, "end": 17159.28}, {"text": "with the the issues that we're seeing with the growth in population and the animal conflict around feeding Wildlife", "start": 17159.28, "end": 17165.798}, {"text": "uh coyote response injured and sick animals and then cabers", "start": 17165.798, "end": 17172.16}, {"text": "now also too at the last council meeting but we did defer um for further", "start": 17172.28, "end": 17178.04}, {"text": "consultation as on the retail uh and residential so that would be would that", "start": 17178.04, "end": 17183.68}, {"text": "not be your area for enforcement so the short answer is yes", "start": 17183.68, "end": 17190.12}, {"text": "uh what you're referring to is employment housing opportunities in neighborhoods and that's related to", "start": 17190.12, "end": 17195.92}, {"text": "zoning and that zone that was uh at planning and housing a month or so ago", "start": 17195.92, "end": 17202.92}, {"text": "um we will be working closely with our colleagues in City Planning in the development of that zoning what we don't", "start": 17202.92, "end": 17210.2}, {"text": "want to do is over and and I said this at committee I don't want to over staff", "start": 17210.2, "end": 17217.44}, {"text": "something if we don't know what the takeup will be of this type of business it it is not fiscally responsible nor", "start": 17217.44, "end": 17224.32}, {"text": "prudent of me to add 25 people millions of dollars to the budget on the tax base", "start": 17224.32, "end": 17230.24}, {"text": "when I don't know what the takeup will be to coffee shops in neighborhoods it", "start": 17230.24, "end": 17235.638}, {"text": "we need to watch and see how it happens to see how it's rolled out and it it's also been deferred for further", "start": 17235.638, "end": 17244.68}, {"text": "consultation okay and so you might need more uh right okay um so what you're", "start": 17244.68, "end": 17251.76}, {"text": "saying then is you're happy you have enough Staffing and you could handle all", "start": 17251.76, "end": 17257.2}, {"text": "the complaints that you get from my office", "start": 17257.2, "end": 17261.76}, {"text": "uh I am very proud of the performance of our division of our I'm proud of it too", "start": 17263.28, "end": 17270.12}, {"text": "but you know and we we also yeah we we do um you know we we score at a very", "start": 17270.12, "end": 17277.24}, {"text": "high level in response times um where we are uh lacking is on cadaver pickup and", "start": 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program in this coming Year's budget uh yes I can uh this year's", "start": 17422.24, "end": 17428.44}, {"text": "budget includes 10 additional staff for rent safe too which brings it up to our largest team of", "start": 17428.44, "end": 17434.68}, {"text": "63 um 52 of which are bylaw officers and they are the ones responsible for for", "start": 17434.68, "end": 17440.798}, {"text": "the 3500 uh rental apartment buildings that we want to ensure are inspected", "start": 17440.798, "end": 17446.52}, {"text": "regularly audited regularly that the issues are dealt with and tenants have the quality of living that they pay for", "start": 17446.52, "end": 17453.16}, {"text": "and they deserve to have right thank you that's welcome news I'm", "start": 17453.16, "end": 17459.28}, {"text": "torontonians um my other followup was just to pull the thread that you mentioned with regards to and um my", "start": 17459.28, "end": 17466.92}, {"text": "colleague counsel was talking about the noise t and 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those are my questions", "start": 17563.558, "end": 17569.52}, {"text": "bam CH okay thank you uh councelor mckelvie thank you at this time last", "start": 17569.52, "end": 17575.36}, {"text": "year you had quite a few vacancies where are you at with that so you mentioned your staff compliment is 300 now um how", "start": 17575.36, "end": 17583.16}, {"text": "many are here yeah so to to clarify the 300 is by law enforcement officers our", "start": 17583.16, "end": 17589.68}, {"text": "entire division is 680 we make up six different service lines we have a", "start": 17589.68, "end": 17594.92}, {"text": "vacancy rate of 8.8% which is 49 10 of which are uh byla officers I would say", "start": 17594.92, "end": 17601.84}, {"text": "that our vacancy rate at this time last year was 14% of those 10 positions we have a candidates list that we're", "start": 17601.84, "end": 17608.24}, {"text": "utilizing and bringing those people on board in February and then we'll be posting another class 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{"text": "that we could Ed on enforcement so um my question is what funds do we be", "start": 17733.48, "end": 17739.718}, {"text": "receiving from the Province what is the status I see in your budget note that there's things around that ruling you", "start": 17739.718, "end": 17745.36}, {"text": "know stopping or what's going on but how are we funding this and what are we doing that's a that's a really important", "start": 17745.36, "end": 17751.798}, {"text": "question we no longer have funding for cannabis enforcement over the past uh 3 four", "start": 17751.798, "end": 17759.08}, {"text": "years we received $8.5 million from The Province we um we use that funding along", "start": 17759.08, "end": 17765.32}, {"text": "with our colleagues in legal police uh and court services where by we shut down", "start": 17765.32, "end": 17772.958}, {"text": "uh there were over a 100 illegals we got that number down to less than 10 uh it", "start": 17772.958, "end": 17778.44}, {"text": "is now growing back to it's it's in the 70s right now this industry has changed", "start": 17778.44, "end": 17785.6}, {"text": "significantly it is Criminal it is organized crime and it is not appropriate for me to send my staff into", "start": 17785.6, "end": 17791.558}, {"text": "these locations where there are weapons and there is criminal activity taking place no other City municipality in the", "start": 17791.558, "end": 17798.718}, {"text": "province of Ontario does this with with by law enforcement this budget signals what I'm", "start": 17798.718, "end": 17805.84}, {"text": "my exit from Cannabis enforcement this should be done and councelor Ansley and", "start": 17805.84, "end": 17811.16}, {"text": "Council as a whole a members motion put forward a couple months ago asking the", "start": 17811.16, "end": 17816.718}, {"text": "province to revisit the Cannabis Control Act of 2017 for the purposes of uh", "start": 17816.718, "end": 17822.92}, {"text": "Enforcement Administration a 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{"text": "police when we're issuing search warrant warrants warrants or or they're doing seizure we go together so that has", "start": 18112.32, "end": 18119.48}, {"text": "always been the case um what what I'm saying is we've made efforts over the last 5 six years", "start": 18119.48, "end": 18126}, {"text": "to close them down to put up concrete blocks that are only to be removed within 24 hours uh we have boarded up", "start": 18126, "end": 18133.92}, {"text": "buildings we have been counter sued for uh locking a tenant into a business", "start": 18133.92, "end": 18140.68}, {"text": "uh we have done we have used every tool available to us what what I'm saying is", "start": 18140.68, "end": 18147.798}, {"text": "they are reopening because of the financial U benefits to them and what", "start": 18147.798, "end": 18154.28}, {"text": "what I want to stress is that we are not the right level of enforcement to do", "start": 18154.28, "end": 18160.2}, {"text": "this work it should be police and op and uh again I can't tell the police uh what", "start": 18160.2, "end": 18168.24}, {"text": "to do what I'm signaling is that I have no more money to do it Province isn't", "start": 18168.24, "end": 18173.558}, {"text": "giving us more money the province is identified 31 million to go towards the", "start": 18173.558, "end": 18179.24}, {"text": "op to do this work and that's where it needs to go the city of Toronto is where", "start": 18179.24, "end": 18184.48}, {"text": "it's where obviously the bulk of the stores are because of the population and we should get the bulk of the money I", "start": 18184.48, "end": 18190}, {"text": "say we the police and the op I have one more simple question around pet", "start": 18190, "end": 18195.718}, {"text": "licensing um I've been told and I have heard and I've experienced myself where", "start": 18195.718, "end": 18201.32}, {"text": "every year we have to renew your pet license why can't you have an automated annual uh renewal I 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18303.84}, {"text": "the Toronto Police Service actually have a framework and Staffing because if", "start": 18303.84, "end": 18310.638}, {"text": "we're not doing it are we just waiting for the opp and do they have a plan", "start": 18310.638, "end": 18317.36}, {"text": "we're just going to drop it and hope for the best or", "start": 18317.36, "end": 18322.84}, {"text": "um I'm not dropping it and I'm hoping for the best this is this shouldn't be our responsibility right the police do", "start": 18322.84, "end": 18329.878}, {"text": "not do business licensing yes licenses that are legal for cannabis are through", "start": 18329.878, "end": 18335.84}, {"text": "the AGCO and they are their province's responsibility those who choose not to get a license are breaking provincial", "start": 18335.84, "end": 18343.52}, {"text": "rules so do we need an education campaign for our residents of who to", "start": 18343.52, "end": 18348.558}, {"text": "call because now if we see something who 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um so we moved it to 5 days Council moved it back to 48", "start": 18667.36, "end": 18674.36}, {"text": "days 48 hours we are honoring council's direction to do it in 48 hours and that", "start": 18674.36, "end": 18680.718}, {"text": "is what the standard is now in this budget we have put forward a new dedicated team to focus on Cav pickup", "start": 18680.718, "end": 18687.6}, {"text": "only we were having people doing coyote response injured and sick animals dangerous dogs feeding wildlife and", "start": 18687.6, "end": 18693.48}, {"text": "cavers and we weren't meeting our standards we are also having highly trained animal knowledgeable people", "start": 18693.48, "end": 18701.24}, {"text": "doing the work we are now putting in light equipment operators we're borrowing from uh position groupings in", "start": 18701.24, "end": 18708.84}, {"text": "solid waste and transportation to have a lower salary wage", "start": 18708.84, "end": 18714.2}, {"text": "less expertise in animals to do this work and we will closely monitor it and", "start": 18714.2, "end": 18719.878}, {"text": "if we're not meeting the 48 Hours uh we will we have to come back for more staff or we'll need to to continue to look at", "start": 18719.878, "end": 18727.12}, {"text": "how we deliver this this service I think it should be five days Council", "start": 18727.12, "end": 18732.4}, {"text": "would like it to be 48 hours and I've been given that direction thank", "start": 18732.4, "end": 18739.4}, {"text": "you um actually C councelor melie I'm gonna ask you to wait until we've done", "start": 18739.4, "end": 18746.16}, {"text": "the round and then and then we'll come back to you but I I really think you all want to get out of here in time I myself", "start": 18746.16, "end": 18752.958}, {"text": "have to do a telephone town hall with the mayor this evening we've got to get this work done councelor perks yeah um", "start": 18752.958, "end": 18760.04}, {"text": "you can start my time but before I 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{"text": "together a guess at what kind of service Improvement we get for the new officers that we're giving you there okay sir", "start": 18846.44, "end": 18852.92}, {"text": "great thanks oh those are your questions okay uh my question actually follows on", "start": 18852.92, "end": 18859}, {"text": "uh councelor chaines because I think this is a perfect uh demonstration of how budgets work it's it's several", "start": 18859, "end": 18866.36}, {"text": "months back I think when Council said they wanted animal services to be able to pick up uh a dead Wildlife within 48", "start": 18866.36, "end": 18874.08}, {"text": "hours it's not until the budget that you can come looking for the positions you", "start": 18874.08, "end": 18879.16}, {"text": "need to do that so while we changed the standard we're not experiencing it now", "start": 18879.16, "end": 18884.4}, {"text": "if we choose to put this money in that gives you what you need to meet the standard am I right about that that's", 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{"text": "here I'll double check that one but uh then we're on Toronto Emergency Management right correct okay um uh", "start": 19315.76, "end": 19322.718}, {"text": "there was directions that were given last year by Council um following the the rain storm", "start": 19322.718, "end": 19328.958}, {"text": "events um in discussion around you know should have the Operation Center been", "start": 19328.958, "end": 19334.28}, {"text": "open for flooding or that and directions to do some work so how have you been engaging with uh trca and others and is", "start": 19334.28, "end": 19341.2}, {"text": "there funding in this budget um for improved response around things like flooding um Madam chair um we work very", "start": 19341.2, "end": 19348.76}, {"text": "closely with all the divisions agencies and corporations including TR trca for a", "start": 19348.76, "end": 19354.04}, {"text": "flooding plan we coordinate meetings um there is no specific uh budget that's", "start": 19354.04, "end": 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yeah it might help to turn your camera off even because that the whole sign going in and", "start": 19593.798, "end": 19600.958}, {"text": "out can you hear me a little bit better there yeah yeah great um so just the", "start": 19600.958, "end": 19606.878}, {"text": "question is around public education and empowering residents with information to", "start": 19606.878, "end": 19612.958}, {"text": "ensure that they are personally prepared for in the case of emergency is there any allocation any work being done in", "start": 19612.958, "end": 19619.638}, {"text": "that regard um this coming year or this year uh Madam chair yes we are looking", "start": 19619.638, "end": 19627.12}, {"text": "at now uh preparing ing a strategy for how to better prepare a community as a whole as opposed to just a person so", "start": 19627.12, "end": 19634.6}, {"text": "we're looking at strategies on how to do that and looking at different types of communities vulnerable communities and", "start": 19634.6, 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um", "start": 19759.2, "end": 19768.16}, {"text": "operational questions I understand that the vision zero enforcement team is led by Toronto", "start": 19768.16, "end": 19774.2}, {"text": "police services uh who is funding the vision zero enforcement team uh do you pay Toronto police or is that included", "start": 19774.2, "end": 19781.12}, {"text": "in their budget Services funds the vision zero", "start": 19781.12, "end": 19787.958}, {"text": "enforcement team and um they have been in place I believe it's about a it's 16", "start": 19787.958, "end": 19795.558}, {"text": "so we pay uh $3.5 million and uh it pays for two police sergeants 16 special police constables", "start": 19795.558, "end": 19803.638}, {"text": "and uh and all the associated charges uh they have issued in", "start": 19803.638, "end": 19809.2}, {"text": "2024 um a significant amount of of tickets uh related 51,000 tickets", "start": 19809.2, "end": 19815.16}, {"text": "related to Vision zero type offenses so speeding reckless driving stunt driving um and uh and they continue to provide", "start": 19815.16, "end": 19823.12}, {"text": "us with a dashboard on a monthly basis of their accomplishments and so we would uh propose to continue funding that", "start": 19823.12, "end": 19830.08}, {"text": "program because it it complements automated enforcement quite significantly to be able to have police", "start": 19830.08, "end": 19835.2}, {"text": "do that work okay thank you so this budget does not mention the potential impact of Bill 212 the reducing gridlock", "start": 19835.2, "end": 19843.52}, {"text": "saving saving you time act 2024 do we know if and how the provinces move to", "start": 19843.52, "end": 19850.24}, {"text": "rip out some bike lanes and restrict their use on other on other roads will", "start": 19850.24, "end": 19855.84}, {"text": "have a budget impact on the city uh Madam chair the the impacts of", "start": 19855.84, "end": 19861.6}, {"text": "Bill 212 uh are are still 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bundled projects that we can accomplish those within the parameters of of what's been", "start": 19904.6, "end": 19910.52}, {"text": "uh so far asked okay and uh my next question the province has a number of", "start": 19910.52, "end": 19916.28}, {"text": "projects that have and are contributing to congestion issues in the city is it", "start": 19916.28, "end": 19921.44}, {"text": "staff's opinion that the city is being made whole by The Province ensuring the cost managing the impacts of projects", "start": 19921.44, "end": 19928.04}, {"text": "like the the onter line and the Egg across town are not being bored by the", "start": 19928.04, "end": 19934.24}, {"text": "city Madam chair I I think that the um this is a shared Pro problem right it's", "start": 19934.24, "end": 19940.12}, {"text": "a shared problem we have a significant amount of residents and and employees who come into the city each and every", "start": 19940.12, "end": 19945.48}, {"text": "day we have a lot of construction projects The Province also is building higher order Transit and so they have um", "start": 19945.48, "end": 19951.12}, {"text": "significant construction work that's happening in an already populated city so the adjacent congestion is", "start": 19951.12, "end": 19957}, {"text": "significant we we knew that this program was coming forward we uh added our construction hubs if you look at the map", "start": 19957, "end": 19963.08}, {"text": "of our construction hubs which are in place to help manage that congestion uh you will see that they track pretty", "start": 19963.08, "end": 19968.718}, {"text": "closely along uh the Ontario line we also have teams uh in transportation services and also with Transit expansion", "start": 19968.718, "end": 19975.52}, {"text": "dere toyo's unit to understand and best manage uh neighborhood impacts of those", "start": 19975.52, "end": 19982.558}, {"text": "programs so I don't know that I would say made whole because I'm I'm not sure the the pro the problem is entirely", "start": 19982.558, "end": 19989.12}, {"text": "related to those programs but certainly it's exacerbated and we have staffed up to try uh to to handle it as well as we", "start": 19989.12, "end": 19997}, {"text": "can thank you thank you for that and uh another operating question with regards", "start": 19997, "end": 20002.24}, {"text": "to road maintenance and cleaniness snow plows U repairs Etc does this budget", "start": 20002.24, "end": 20007.92}, {"text": "deliver the same level of service or are there enhancements being made uh for", "start": 20007.92, "end": 20013.12}, {"text": "winter win yeah winter the same the level of service for winter is the same", "start": 20013.12, "end": 20020.718}, {"text": "okay and the capital question here we know our roads are falling into worse", "start": 20020.718, "end": 20027.12}, {"text": "condition uh increasing our Capital backlog does the capital back budget", "start": 20027.12, "end": 20032.32}, {"text": "projection get us back on track or are these Waring numbers based on the planned Investments of $647 million into", "start": 20032.32, "end": 20042.44}, {"text": "2034 I mean I I think uh Mr djano did a good job of showing that our state of", "start": 20042.44, "end": 20047.558}, {"text": "good good repair backlog continues to grow over the over the 10 years of the capital yes um and uh we we have um", "start": 20047.558, "end": 20056.638}, {"text": "sized up our our delivery component of our Capital Works uh to be able to", "start": 20056.638, "end": 20062.52}, {"text": "address uh the capacity of the people that we have to currently do the work I think we're just about 90% on our spend", "start": 20062.52, "end": 20068.04}, {"text": "on Capital um I think that our program so so to answer your question quickly we", "start": 20068.04, "end": 20073.878}, {"text": "do not have a level of state of good repair funding to change the direction of our local roads and and major roads", "start": 20073.878, "end": 20081.2}, {"text": "program so our Capital backlog continues to grow over the 10 years um we have", "start": 20081.2, "end": 20087.52}, {"text": "demonstrated our ability to spend within the budget allocation that we have and so we would have to look and we are", "start": 20087.52, "end": 20093.4}, {"text": "going to be looking through an updated Asset Management plan in 2025 of what that longer term uh solution could be", "start": 20093.4, "end": 20100.16}, {"text": "and how we would fund that uh and then that we would have the capacity not only to design and deliver the work but as", "start": 20100.16, "end": 20106.48}, {"text": "you know the the congestion and impacts related to construction on major roads is significant and so doing all that", "start": 20106.48, "end": 20113.44}, {"text": "work in a short amount of time would have immeasurable impacts on on the rest of the city and the city where those", "start": 20113.44, "end": 20119.718}, {"text": "projects happen so we do need to Pace that I see am amount of time CFO would like to follow up CH I I do want to note", "start": 20119.718, "end": 20126.24}, {"text": "and and our general manager of Transportation Services is absolutely correct the backlog is continuing to grow but I think it's important to note", "start": 20126.24, "end": 20133.28}, {"text": "that we've made an added investment in our Capital program uh in transportation this year we talked about the", "start": 20133.28, "end": 20138.878}, {"text": "reallocation of the gardener funds it's enabled us to put I believe it's about 380 million or 350 350 I think it's 380", "start": 20138.878, "end": 20145.798}, {"text": "we'll double check okay into Bridge rehab um and again while the backlog is continuing to grow", "start": 20145.798, "end": 20152.4}, {"text": "what we've done and you see it in many of our large infrastructure programs you're seeing that we're starting to flatten that growth curve um and and", "start": 20152.4, "end": 20159.04}, {"text": "beginning to address those challenges for that and and we have invested that money into Bridges because", "start": 20159.04, "end": 20164.878}, {"text": "our critical Bridge uh safety component is is really the most significant so it's been a huge benefit to have that", "start": 20164.878, "end": 20172.48}, {"text": "uplift service okay that was that was an important extra question uh okay so I", "start": 20172.48, "end": 20177.76}, {"text": "noticed I have two people uh virtually now uh councelor chanti do you have questions of", "start": 20177.76, "end": 20183.44}, {"text": "Transportation uh yes I do chair just just a just a question for you chair the", "start": 20183.44, "end": 20189.4}, {"text": "transit expansion did I just miss that can I go back to that or not I'm afraid I'm afraid uh you did miss that", "start": 20189.4, "end": 20196.32}, {"text": "department uh Mr Toyo is here maybe I'll just let him answer uh if it's a quick", "start": 20196.32, "end": 20202.12}, {"text": "question I'll just let him answer from the place that where where he's sitting in the committee room now I I don't you", "start": 20202.12, "end": 20208.36}, {"text": "won't have a closeup of Mr Toyo but you'll get your information go ah so and I do have a", "start": 20208.36, "end": 20214.638}, {"text": "question of of the U current topic that we're on right now as well okay um so uh", "start": 20214.638, "end": 20221.16}, {"text": "can I start with transit or go back to that after maybe do Transit expansion uh", "start": 20221.16, "end": 20226.48}, {"text": "first and and then then we'll uh go Center Stage to Transportation okay so um so I'm not", "start": 20226.48, "end": 20234.68}, {"text": "sure who's going to answer this chair but Mr Toyo is here Derek Toyo is still in the room I'm just saying he's not", "start": 20234.68, "end": 20240.4}, {"text": "currently in the presentation seat oh got it all right so the question", "start": 20240.4, "end": 20245.44}, {"text": "I have is that you know there's a budget request of 2.6 million to support invitation of of fair uh compliance", "start": 20245.44, "end": 20252.558}, {"text": "strategy so so my question here is uh uh Mr or councelor chanti this is not the", "start": 20252.558, "end": 20260.2}, {"text": "TTC budget what what we I this is the transit expansion Department which is", "start": 20260.2, "end": 20265.32}, {"text": "the planning and and uh uh interface between Metro links and and new Transit", "start": 20265.32, "end": 20271.36}, {"text": "being built yeah TTC is not today no okay perfect so I'll redirect then my", "start": 20271.36, "end": 20278}, {"text": "only question there is again we uh you know any any update information that we", "start": 20278, "end": 20283.48}, {"text": "have currently for the finch west. RT would that be the appropriate question we've still been waiting now for I", "start": 20283.48, "end": 20289.92}, {"text": "believe we're about three years behind on the uh oper the operation of rlrt the", "start": 20289.92, "end": 20295.558}, {"text": "finch allt that spans from Kill Street to Humber College can you uh tell me where we're at with that please uh he he", "start": 20295.558, "end": 20302.6}, {"text": "can but I I am also uh I'm at pays I'm going to have to be as tough on you as I'm being on budget committee members uh", "start": 20302.6, "end": 20310.12}, {"text": "Mr Toyo has that information but in order for us to get through this week I'm really trying to get people to ask", "start": 20310.12, "end": 20316.76}, {"text": "questions of budget as opposed to newsy how things work types of questions cuz", "start": 20316.76, "end": 20322.04}, {"text": "that that is a question you could phone Mr Toyo about anytime Mr Togo if you want to quickly give that answer then", "start": 20322.04, "end": 20328.958}, {"text": "councelor cran will move to questions of the budget which pays for transportation well then you know what no that's fine", "start": 20328.958, "end": 20334.92}, {"text": "chair he can maybe just quickly give me an email update where that's at and I'll leave it at that and I'll go I'll move", "start": 20334.92, "end": 20341.76}, {"text": "on to I'll move on to the next topic the topic around now Transportation thank", "start": 20341.76, "end": 20347.52}, {"text": "you on the and this should be a budget question let me try this one more time this question is about and so Barbara we", "start": 20347.52, "end": 20354.718}, {"text": "have chatted about this before the the 100 um uh new positions with respect to", "start": 20354.718, "end": 20361.84}, {"text": "uh the traffic enforcement officers um there 100 traffic agents", "start": 20361.84, "end": 20368.44}, {"text": "that's the one so apparently from what I understand there's 14 positions existing prior to", "start": 20368.44, "end": 20374.6}, {"text": "2024 uh there's 61 positions recruited 24 uh and undergoing training and", "start": 20374.6, "end": 20381.04}, {"text": "there's 25 new positions so just wondering how do we come up with this number the 25 new positions and how did", "start": 20381.04, "end": 20389.08}, {"text": "we assess the need for them currently right now um and let's start with that", "start": 20389.08, "end": 20395.08}, {"text": "thank you madam chair uh an interesting thing about the traffic agent program", "start": 20395.08, "end": 20400.44}, {"text": "I'll just briefly say related to the budget on the four positions that um that we had in uh 2023 and 24 uh it is a", "start": 20400.44, "end": 20409.6}, {"text": "fairly High churn uh position and so we also had added those positions uh", "start": 20409.6, "end": 20416.12}, {"text": "temporarily and had not actually come to council for formal permanent positions and so many of the positions you see in", "start": 20416.12, "end": 20422.04}, {"text": "this budget the the total 75 or the 65 are 2025 asked are positions that we", "start": 20422.04, "end": 20428.6}, {"text": "have and are in the process of filling right now we have some classes in training right now who we hope to have on the street in in June or July um and", "start": 20428.6, "end": 20436.68}, {"text": "they actually were not permanent in our budget so the the ask is significant this year because we are asking to make", "start": 20436.68, "end": 20442}, {"text": "them permanent in our budget uh we also know that the mayor who has been uh very interested in the success of the traffic", "start": 20442, "end": 20448.638}, {"text": "agent program to help address uh throughput at the intersections and don't block and blocking of the box", "start": 20448.638, "end": 20454.04}, {"text": "which really causes congestion and impacts to pedestrians and other people using the road uh has added uh has", "start": 20454.04, "end": 20460.08}, {"text": "proposed to add 25 additional agents because we have um a lot of construction in the city we have a lot of", "start": 20460.08, "end": 20466}, {"text": "construction related to Major Transit infrastructure but we also have um a lot of transit in uh Transit that is um on", "start": 20466, "end": 20473.92}, {"text": "alternate routes and working with the TTC similar to what we did with King Street and Spadina this year to help uh", "start": 20473.92, "end": 20479.958}, {"text": "navigate some of those changes when we see uh on Street buses as opposed to Street Car Service as we get ready for", "start": 20479.958, "end": 20485.24}, {"text": "FIFA so um so that's one of the reasons I believe why there was the extra 25", "start": 20485.24, "end": 20490.92}, {"text": "added and because they've demonstrated to be effective and so the total number of agents in this budget is 100", "start": 20490.92, "end": 20498.76}, {"text": "okay thank you bar but so that also 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"end": 20541.76}, {"text": "move around uh of late they've been a lot in the downtown Corp we've had some up at the Allen Road when we've had", "start": 20541.76, "end": 20547.478}, {"text": "issues uh with signaling in that location and uh with more uh compliment we're going to have a lot more", "start": 20547.478, "end": 20553.24}, {"text": "opportunity to move them to places where we see construction impacts throughout the City all right thank you chair I'm good", "start": 20553.24, "end": 20560.44}, {"text": "with that thank you so much Barbara thank you councelor Morley did you have transportation questions okay uh", "start": 20560.44, "end": 20567.638}, {"text": "Transportation councelor Chang thank you um through the", "start": 20567.638, "end": 20573.6}, {"text": "chair it uh is concerning to read here that uh the trend is that roads that are", "start": 20573.6, "end": 20582.558}, {"text": "in good and fair condition are anticipated to decrease to 38% for major", "start": 20582.558, "end": 20588.12}, {"text": "roads and 50% local roads so we are on a trajectory and I you know becoming a", "start": 20588.12, "end": 20595.638}, {"text": "city counselor and I go to cities where the roads are excellent I really notice now because I I realize that we have a", "start": 20595.638, "end": 20602.92}, {"text": "lot of Road and a lot of fixing so I'm just wondering um you know it sounds like", "start": 20602.92, "end": 20609.718}, {"text": "with water we have really heavily invested in state of good repair and obviously because it's not", "start": 20609.718, "end": 20615.68}, {"text": "life-threatening to drive over a pot hole as it is to drink water that's not clean so we are but I wonder what what", "start": 20615.68, "end": 20624.28}, {"text": "is the plan for us to because I I think we want to live in a global excellent City how do we get there with our", "start": 20624.28, "end": 20631.76}, {"text": "roads well Madam chair thanks I'll just underscore a couple of the things that have have already been mentioned one is", "start": 20631.76, "end": 20638.04}, {"text": "that this this particular budget overall looks to really address state of good repair and to deal with it", "start": 20638.04, "end": 20643.68}, {"text": "comprehensively so there has been an uplift uh there's also been an uplift in our bridges which is a really critical", "start": 20643.68, "end": 20650.32}, {"text": "um infrastructure component from a safety perspective and so um with the with the upload of the gardener and the", "start": 20650.32, "end": 20656.52}, {"text": "partnership with um the new deal with the province we have an additional what did we say 350 do change the trajectory", "start": 20656.52, "end": 20663.92}, {"text": "of this graph here that's so I I I think you'll you what you will see counselor", "start": 20663.92, "end": 20670.12}, {"text": "is that the um the difference between our local and major road assets uh it it", "start": 20670.12, "end": 20675.638}, {"text": "is a um the the best practice is to try to catch those assets at a point when", "start": 20675.638, "end": 20683.24}, {"text": "they are not so deteriorated that we need to reconstruct the road because most of our roads were built in the 50s", "start": 20683.24, "end": 20689.958}, {"text": "most of those that haven't already been updated are a lot of them are in a situation where we do need to do", "start": 20689.958, "end": 20695.28}, {"text": "reconstruction work and so we bundle that work with TTC track replacement with Toronto water uh infrastructure so", "start": 20695.28, "end": 20702.36}, {"text": "that we can have the least impact on uh the when we do the delivery of those construction projects so it's not just", "start": 20702.36, "end": 20709.638}, {"text": "about um the resource although certainly the resource is important it's about the", "start": 20709.638, "end": 20715.2}, {"text": "ability to deliver those programs and also when we deliver especially the", "start": 20715.2, "end": 20720.52}, {"text": "major roads and I think you noted and and the major roads have lagged behind the local roads is because the", "start": 20720.52, "end": 20725.878}, {"text": "construction on those arterial roads is is quite impactful uh and it impacts neighborhoods and so if we do all the", "start": 20725.878, "end": 20733.36}, {"text": "parallel corridors in one in one swoop in a neighborhood then it is it creates another series of challenges so um this", "start": 20733.36, "end": 20740.718}, {"text": "is why we're going to be doing our in 2025 we're going to be doing an update to our asset program because we know", "start": 20740.718, "end": 20746.52}, {"text": "that council is very interested in trying to flatten that curve and so we will come back with some longer term strategies for uh road so that you can", "start": 20746.52, "end": 20753.798}, {"text": "be proud of thank you uh I do get a lot of complaints about street sweeping uh", "start": 20753.798, "end": 20760.12}, {"text": "people feel upset that their roads are not getting cleaned on time where are those street sweepers and I heard", "start": 20760.12, "end": 20767.24}, {"text": "there's a GPS uh system so is that part of this", "start": 20767.24, "end": 20772.32}, {"text": "budget uh that there would become a similar to snow cloud to that there", "start": 20772.32, "end": 20778.638}, {"text": "would be a way for people to know what street sweepers schedules are and how they can um and where they are in the", "start": 20778.638, "end": 20788.04}, {"text": "city uh Madam chair the the sweepers that we have currently all do have GPS", "start": 20788.04, "end": 20793.24}, {"text": "installed we are bringing a report in the springtime I think it's in April it's ated for with a new program for", "start": 20793.24, "end": 20798.84}, {"text": "street sweeping so that we can have a more transparent program for people and also uh use that technology uh and give", "start": 20798.84, "end": 20806.28}, {"text": "people uh an indication of the the service levels in real time where where those um where the street sweepers are", "start": 20806.28, "end": 20812.24}, {"text": "so we've been doing a lot of work on that we're going to be presenting a comprehensive report to you in a couple months great it'll save us so much time", "start": 20812.24, "end": 20817.878}, {"text": "if we can just point people to a website thank you okay uh that's councelor Chang uh", "start": 20817.878, "end": 20824.878}, {"text": "councelor perks has uh Dr to I'm sorry cancor Morley have you already asked questions of", "start": 20824.878, "end": 20831.16}, {"text": "Transportation oh go ahead thanks Madam chair hopefully you can hear me better with the headset on um just a quick one", "start": 20831.16, "end": 20838.478}, {"text": "I wanted thank you um I wanted to follow up on the service standards around litter collection um as Council offices", "start": 20838.478, "end": 20846.798}, {"text": "it's something we do hear about fairly regularly specifically from our baas Etc", "start": 20846.798, "end": 20852.4}, {"text": "so I have two-part question um is there any investment in this year budget to", "start": 20852.4, "end": 20857.84}, {"text": "address the service levels around litter collection specifically on our main streets and the second question is um", "start": 20857.84, "end": 20865.558}, {"text": "around the report that you'll be bringing forward regarding street sweepers is there analysis around like", "start": 20865.558, "end": 20873}, {"text": "the speeds that they're going the number of stops that they're making and things along those lines because a regular", "start": 20873, "end": 20879.638}, {"text": "point of concern is that people say they're driving through the neighborhood but they're not collecting the garbage", "start": 20879.638, "end": 20885.2}, {"text": "um so I'm just wanting to probe down on those two pieces if I may thank you uh Madam chair the on the litter", "start": 20885.2, "end": 20893.12}, {"text": "collection the actual litter collection is done by our partners in Solid Waste Management so we oversee the contract", "start": 20893.12, "end": 20898.878}, {"text": "for the bins but we will actually be coming back to council with an update on uh the litter bin program and the street", "start": 20898.878, "end": 20905.28}, {"text": "Furniture program overall uh probably in third quarter of this year because that contract is going to be up uh in for", "start": 20905.28, "end": 20911.76}, {"text": "2027 so we really need to be bringing an approach back to you this year so we'll be doing that um and then uh yes the", "start": 20911.76, "end": 20918.558}, {"text": "street sweeping report will be pretty will be quite comprehensive it will cover uh the the questions that you", "start": 20918.558, "end": 20925.44}, {"text": "asked it will also we also did some work with the universities around air quality so we'll be bringing those results back", "start": 20925.44, "end": 20931.16}, {"text": "as well great thank you so much thanks Barbara those are my questions Madam chair okay um I just have a a couple of", "start": 20931.16, "end": 20939.04}, {"text": "questions of my own oh sorry uh okay yes chair goes last let's do", "start": 20939.04, "end": 20945.84}, {"text": "that um thank you uh so two questions so firstly winter back to the winter", "start": 20945.84, "end": 20951.28}, {"text": "question I think you're selling yourself short because this year you actually have um included the extreme weather", "start": 20951.28, "end": 20958.12}, {"text": "response plan so a higher service standard and also increased level of service on bike Lan so I just want to", "start": 20958.12, "end": 20963.478}, {"text": "make sure give you the opportunity for to clarify that to kilon Bo's question yes uh Madam chair that's absolutely", "start": 20963.478, "end": 20969.24}, {"text": "true we've done both of those things and we will be coming uh back again in July with another annual update on winter um", "start": 20969.24, "end": 20976.24}, {"text": "I thought the question was about service levels so the service levels haven't changed but certainly we've added some components to the program including the", "start": 20976.24, "end": 20982.638}, {"text": "um the increased uh service level on bike Lanes thank you um and then my", "start": 20982.638, "end": 20988.2}, {"text": "other question is so your budget has a $39 million increase and I recognize", "start": 20988.2, "end": 20994.08}, {"text": "that we always ask you to do more and more and more and more so can you just outline what are the main drivers behind", "start": 20994.08, "end": 21000.24}, {"text": "your increased ask uh to us yes uh Madam", "start": 21000.24, "end": 21005.44}, {"text": "chair uh we have we actually did a number of offsetting uh activities to", "start": 21005.44, "end": 21010.718}, {"text": "bring 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22255.68}, {"text": "applications um improving our applications processing timelines through new technologies and streamlining the Le uh streamlining", "start": 22255.68, "end": 22263.32}, {"text": "processes once again will be leveraging lean6 Sigma and implementing a team based", "start": 22263.32, "end": 22268.84}, {"text": "approach uh the ongoing evaluation monitoring and refinement of Toronto buildings newly implemented", "start": 22268.84, "end": 22275.12}, {"text": "organizational structure that is client focused uh service it's it's a client", "start": 22275.12, "end": 22280.36}, {"text": "focused Service delivery model to uh Drive operational efficiency eval", "start": 22280.36, "end": 22286.12}, {"text": "evaluate Service delivery and reinforce its leadership as a modern client Centric buildings uh building regulator", "start": 22286.12, "end": 22293.958}, {"text": "and finally Advance a centralized housing access continue to advance the centralized housing access uh 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22495.24}, {"text": "essentially reinstatement of bridge financing from one-time uh relief that was through the 2024 budget as well as", "start": 22495.24, "end": 22502.76}, {"text": "26.4 million in inflation Ary pressures and about 1.2 million in new and", "start": 22502.76, "end": 22508.6}, {"text": "enhanced and I'm sure uh Mr bar will provide more details around that uh through their presentation the next big", "start": 22508.6, "end": 22515.958}, {"text": "portion of the 76.2 million is uh uh $10.5 million decline in federal funding", "start": 22515.958, "end": 22522.638}, {"text": "for social uh housing and that essentially is kind I'll say the largest categories there is approximately 2.6", "start": 22522.638, "end": 22530}, {"text": "million in new and enhanced through the housing secretary and Toronto buildings um the the the net impact of uh with", "start": 22530, "end": 22538.68}, {"text": "Toronto buildings sorry the gross is 1.4 for the renov program but the net impact", 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million for 2025 82% of it or 589", "start": 22598.08, "end": 22607.04}, {"text": "million is allocated to the housing Secretariat 177% or 125 uh to Waterfront", "start": 22607.04, "end": 22614.24}, {"text": "revitalization and uh 1% uh approximately to city planning for some of the smaller deliverables through", "start": 22614.24, "end": 22622.798}, {"text": "there the 10year Capital plan for us is approximately 3.9 billion I won't go", "start": 22622.798, "end": 22628.84}, {"text": "through each one of these but the larger ones uh the largest category that we", "start": 22628.84, "end": 22633.958}, {"text": "have uh is approximately 1.9 billion for Toronto community housing for state of", "start": 22633.958, "end": 22639.16}, {"text": "good repair and other supports uh 1.4 billion for city-led and City uh", "start": 22639.16, "end": 22644.558}, {"text": "supported development 215 million uh for flood protection and 119 million uh for", "start": 22644.558, "end": 22653.04}, {"text": "protecting and preserving affordable hous housing and the balance of the other um items in the 10year capital", "start": 22653.04, "end": 22658.92}, {"text": "plan are on the screen there in the slide of the 3.9 uh billion dollar", "start": 22658.92, "end": 22665.12}, {"text": "Capital plan over the 10 years approximately 1.9 Bill billion once again is going towards state of good", "start": 22665.12, "end": 22670.878}, {"text": "repair and there's about 2.3 billion uh going towards improvements and growth", "start": 22670.878, "end": 22676.12}, {"text": "related projects those two numbers themselves don't necessarily reconcile to 3.9 billion however there is a uh", "start": 22676.12, "end": 22683.878}, {"text": "there is a repayment that Nets it out to 3.9 billion the next slide uh does show", "start": 22683.878, "end": 22692.558}, {"text": "where our debt funding is coming from approximately 60% or sorry 59% or 2.3", "start": 22692.558, "end": 22698.24}, {"text": "billion is from 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"end": 22753}, {"text": "presentation I don't see any uh so I think we do them in this", "start": 22755.44, "end": 22761.28}, {"text": "order yeah so City Planning are there any questions on yeah Deputy Mayor melie", "start": 22761.28, "end": 22767.478}, {"text": "thank you um so in the the presentation you have a line item for 3 million", "start": 22767.478, "end": 22773.24}, {"text": "annually for civic Improvement oh what is this oh for is this for under", "start": 22773.24, "end": 22780.24}, {"text": "planning your development and growth on so this is General on the on the", "start": 22780.24, "end": 22785.718}, {"text": "presentation okay so I thought it might be under the city planning one but yeah there's I believe that is part of uh", "start": 22785.718, "end": 22792.32}, {"text": "some of the work that we do from a complete streets perspective and it's a small amount of funding where planning supports that initiative along with", "start": 22792.32, "end": 22799.478}, {"text": "other City divisions so yeah okay I guess it's on on the general it's on page 15", "start": 22799.478, "end": 22806.44}, {"text": "um and there's just Civic improvements that's listed at 30 million but 30", "start": 22806.44, "end": 22812.12}, {"text": "million a year just wondering what kinds of things that that goes towards so our chief planner is here he can respond to", "start": 22812.12, "end": 22818}, {"text": "it but I do believe uh what I had indicated around the uh complete streets uh investment is it's part of what", "start": 22818, "end": 22824.08}, {"text": "planning delivers along with other divisions in order to support some of those", "start": 22824.08, "end": 22830.08}, {"text": "projects yes chair that that's correct so that's $3 million annual minor understanding is that amount has existed", "start": 22830.28, "end": 22836.04}, {"text": "for some time uh and typically those funds are used to augment other City infrastructure projects uh to include uh", "start": 22836.04, "end": 22843.52}, {"text": "enhanced Urban Design Elements um a lot of the focus over the past couple of years has been around uh uh green", "start": 22843.52, "end": 22849.878}, {"text": "infrastructure incorporation of low impact development and uh implementation of the green streets program has been a", "start": 22849.878, "end": 22855.2}, {"text": "lot of how that fund has been used to uh to augment other City infrastructure projects and it's administered through", "start": 22855.2, "end": 22860.32}, {"text": "the Urban Design Team within City Planning so how is that fund it that's from the property tax base or is that", "start": 22860.32, "end": 22867.24}, {"text": "development fees that you collect and flow through or section 37s that flow through or we have an idea exactly uh so", "start": 22867.24, "end": 22875.958}, {"text": "uh chair my understanding is that includes uh some Levy funding Capital but also some DC U uh capital I don't", "start": 22875.958, "end": 22881.92}, {"text": "know the exact breakdown between the two okay I it's the first time I saw", "start": 22881.92, "end": 22888.24}, {"text": "that we do this and there's this pot there just there's not a lot of description around it um or what that's", "start": 22888.24, "end": 22894.08}, {"text": "being used for um okay um and then my next question is on just the number of", "start": 22894.08, "end": 22899.68}, {"text": "Staff which I don't know if that would fall under City Planning and Development review specifically or", "start": 22899.68, "end": 22906.4}, {"text": "general I guess I I mean it's under planning but I guess it's you you in", "start": 22909, "end": 22914.08}, {"text": "2022 you approved 150 positions so it's the status I just want to know if you're asking about planning because then I can", "start": 22914.08, "end": 22920.28}, {"text": "give you five minutes on planning or if you're asking for the whole department but my last question I thought was planning too and it was the whole", "start": 22920.28, "end": 22925.638}, {"text": "department so um so so the question then you can decide you can decide where it fits I'm still going to fit both in five", "start": 22925.638, "end": 22931.878}, {"text": "minutes um so my question is uh 2022 there was a hiring of 150 planners where", "start": 22931.878, "end": 22937.718}, {"text": "are you at with that hiring in vacancies and uh are there any more being added or does that take us to a full compliment", "start": 22937.718, "end": 22943.84}, {"text": "through the chair and sorry I'll hand it over to an Lisa so uh councelor valessa Faria may", "start": 22943.84, "end": 22950.798}, {"text": "have more information but my understanding is those 150 that were spread over numerous divisions not just", "start": 22950.798, "end": 22956.12}, {"text": "City Planning which is now part of the development review division with the realignment we've done theyve filled", "start": 22956.12, "end": 22961.878}, {"text": "primarily all of those positions I think there were eight or 10 still just waiting to get through the recruitment", "start": 22961.878, "end": 22968.12}, {"text": "process but they've been pretty much filled and I'm sure valessa can speak uh more to", "start": 22968.12, "end": 22974}, {"text": "that uh sure that's correct out of the 150 positions about 76 were in City", "start": 22974, "end": 22979.638}, {"text": "Planning and the balance the other 74 were spread ac across commentary divisions which are now within", "start": 22979.638, "end": 22985.878}, {"text": "development review so that includes engineering review and transportation review staff out of those 150 about 143", "start": 22985.878, "end": 22993.04}, {"text": "are currently filled and then out of that 150 is that are you done or is there more coming in this year is that", "start": 22993.04, "end": 22999.04}, {"text": "bring us to a full complement we're 100% ready to go on the the DG division so", "start": 22999.04, "end": 23004.24}, {"text": "the development review division currently has about 400 uh FTE and our", "start": 23004.24, "end": 23009.4}, {"text": "vacancy rate is currently about 7% um so we we have done a great job in", "start": 23009.4, "end": 23014.76}, {"text": "in filling um in in filling our our vacancies and as a result I can uh say", "start": 23014.76, "end": 23021.32}, {"text": "that our service levels have also improved significantly and we're getting really great feedback not only uh from", "start": 23021.32, "end": 23027.92}, {"text": "uh the the development industry including nonprofit developers but also from members of council so are you", "start": 23027.92, "end": 23033.6}, {"text": "adding more planners this year or you like you're okay that that I guess full compliment so you're a full compliment", "start": 23033.6, "end": 23039.638}, {"text": "we're not adding more this year and now everybody's just banging it out okay great thank you", "start": 23039.638, "end": 23046.362}, {"text": "you okay uh was that a question that was councelor Morley or no that was", "start": 23049.16, "end": 23055.44}, {"text": "councelor Melby and you are finished Deputy Mayor", "start": 23055.44, "end": 23062.52}, {"text": "yeah okay uh uh I'm gonna I'm going to jump to councelor perks because he's got", "start": 23062.52, "end": 23068.44}, {"text": "a time constraint yeah I'm I'm I'm very sorry uh Madam chair I've got to disappear for 20 minutes for an agenda", "start": 23068.44, "end": 23074.12}, {"text": "bre briefing on the housing rights advisory committee um but before I go I", "start": 23074.12, "end": 23079.68}, {"text": "wanted to ask the CFO a question uh Council recently approved uh the city", "start": 23079.68, "end": 23085.958}, {"text": "building model and I'm not seeing uh the new positions and funding", "start": 23085.958, "end": 23091.798}, {"text": "for new positions represented here can you comment on that quickly yeah to the chair uh we do have funds available for", "start": 23091.798, "end": 23098.52}, {"text": "that position uh given the timing of the budget process we've ensured those funds are placed within our other corporate", "start": 23098.52, "end": 23103.92}, {"text": "expend and our corporate accounts we will ensure that they're available to transition for the position once they're", "start": 23103.92, "end": 23109.4}, {"text": "required and I assume that once that happens that'll show up in one of the variance likely through a variance", "start": 23109.4, "end": 23114.84}, {"text": "report we'll have the adjustment okay thank you see you all in 20 minutes okay", "start": 23114.84, "end": 23121.12}, {"text": "um are there any more questions on the the overall presentation councelor Moyes just for my", "start": 23121.12, "end": 23128.12}, {"text": "own understanding when it comes to the Waterfront revitalization initiative is that the West dland specifically or is", "start": 23128.12, "end": 23133.92}, {"text": "that just the entire Waterfront through the chair it it does reference the entire Waterfront uh", "start": 23133.92, "end": 23140.638}, {"text": "including for example a keyw woman menacing uh and the the complete", "start": 23140.638, "end": 23145.84}, {"text": "Waterfront okay thank you", "start": 23145.84, "end": 23151.24}, {"text": "oh councelor Morley on the on the overall presentation go ahead uh uh", "start": 23151.24, "end": 23157.958}, {"text": "thanks bam chair it's actually a specific question for planning should I hold it for or sorry for the housing", "start": 23157.958, "end": 23163.76}, {"text": "secretary I'm about to bring them up yeah perfect I'll wait thank you okay", "start": 23163.76, "end": 23169.68}, {"text": "and that's it councelor Chang okay so I'm going to bring up um", "start": 23169.68, "end": 23176.52}, {"text": "uh City Planning and Development review because they're you're uh contained in the same set of analyst notes", "start": 23176.52, "end": 23185.238}, {"text": "okay so you guys are covering both things we haven't actually had our meet and greet yet so", "start": 23196.2, "end": 23201.878}, {"text": "hello okay um uh councelor Morley let's do", "start": 23202.76, "end": 23208.52}, {"text": "virtual first councelor morle and and the analyst notes cover both these divisions uh because they're they're", "start": 23208.52, "end": 23215.12}, {"text": "just they're in the transition of being distinct so uh I I have uh both uh", "start": 23215.12, "end": 23221.04}, {"text": "development review and city planning for you uh thanks Madam chair um the question", "start": 23221.04, "end": 23228.24}, {"text": "was sort of asked and answered around what improvements we've been seeing uh in the development review process in", "start": 23228.24, "end": 23234.6}, {"text": "terms of timelines and I I guess I'll just ask if you can provide any additional color to uh what additional", "start": 23234.6, "end": 23241.558}, {"text": "improvements we can expect through the budget this year uh thank you counselor uh to the", "start": 23241.558, "end": 23248.52}, {"text": "chair we have uh we have seen on average about an 80% Improvement in timelines so as an example for site plan we've our uh", "start": 23248.52, "end": 23256.76}, {"text": "as of December um our applications have been reviewed within 97 days versus 694", "start": 23256.76, "end": 23263.36}, {"text": "days uh for the five years uh average uh before uh last year in terms of of", "start": 23263.36, "end": 23271.4}, {"text": "improvements for 2025 so 2025 is going to be a big year for us we're going to continue to focus on uh on uh", "start": 23271.4, "end": 23278.4}, {"text": "improvements to the service that we provide to applicants and that includes looking at things like our standard operating procedures per application", "start": 23278.4, "end": 23285.12}, {"text": "type uh we're going to focus on relooking at our our kpis now that we are 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are some of the key improvements for us in", "start": 23323.08, "end": 23328.878}, {"text": "2025 right thank you so much um just a couple quick follow-ups on that with", "start": 23328.878, "end": 23334.718}, {"text": "respect to the housing plan that we have and some of the incentives that we're now standing up as well in this budget", "start": 23334.718, "end": 23342.36}, {"text": "is there a dedicated person who is making connections for applicants um to encourage them to build the kind of", "start": 23342.36, "end": 23348.84}, {"text": "housing that we need for example um like purpose built rental which we are are working to incentivize um or is that a", "start": 23348.84, "end": 23356.4}, {"text": "general um piece of work that will be undertaken by everybody in the in the", "start": 23356.4, "end": 23361.6}, {"text": "unit or on the", "start": 23361.6, "end": 23365}, {"text": "team can't seem to turn on my microphone okay there we go um we currently", "start": 23367.16, "end": 23372.32}, {"text": "counselor we currently have two streams of service in development review so there's a priority development review", "start": 23372.32, "end": 23378.04}, {"text": "stream which looks at um or which focuses on Expediting affordable housing", "start": 23378.04, "end": 23383.2}, {"text": "applications we're also expanding that team to look at rental housing applications to align with the city's", "start": 23383.2, "end": 23389.04}, {"text": "efforts on the recent uh rental incentive program so with applicants that come through that stream they uh", "start": 23389.04, "end": 23395.878}, {"text": "they get an expedited Service as an example the 244 Egon project which is the Bondo uh sorry uh Co-op project 900", "start": 23395.878, "end": 23404.4}, {"text": "units that was reviewed within 69 days and it came through that priority development review stream for the the", "start": 23404.4, "end": 23410.44}, {"text": "other uh sets of applications that come in they will go through the the more General stream but we will continue to", "start": 23410.44, "end": 23416.28}, {"text": "focus on eventually aligning so that we have a service standard that is uh that", "start": 23416.28, "end": 23421.718}, {"text": "is predictable and improved across both streams great thank you you've been", "start": 23421.718, "end": 23427.16}, {"text": "doing great work out the gate I look forward to continuing to work together thanks Madam chair that's it for me okay", "start": 23427.16, "end": 23433.24}, {"text": "thank you councelor chain thank you through the", "start": 23433.24, "end": 23438.28}, {"text": "speaker uh so recently uh there was a motion that we didn't pass at Council", "start": 23438.28, "end": 23444.84}, {"text": "regarding residential Zone uh retail and um and and yesterday I think", "start": 23444.84, "end": 23452.558}, {"text": "there was a consultation about an Avenue study that is happening and there are", "start": 23452.558, "end": 23458.16}, {"text": "some in my neighborhood that are feeling like they are not being consulted about", "start": 23458.16, "end": 23464}, {"text": "fairly large decisions that can impact how our community will experience the", "start": 23464, "end": 23469.68}, {"text": "city and so I'm just wondering in this budget and in general in our processes", "start": 23469.68, "end": 23475.68}, {"text": "what uh dedicated staff are there to building a comprehensive engagement plan", "start": 23475.68, "end": 23483.558}, {"text": "uh education and engagement because when we're going to make large changes to our", "start": 23483.558, "end": 23488.6}, {"text": "official plan uh it it's very important especially in the inner BBS uh or areas", "start": 23488.6, "end": 23495.44}, {"text": "outside the downtown core where voices another example is you know the parking", "start": 23495.44, "end": 23501.12}, {"text": "policy which councelor Carol and myself are very much wanting a revisit in terms", "start": 23501.12, "end": 23506.638}, {"text": "of visitor parking requirements so just what part of this budget uh is allocated", "start": 23506.638, "end": 23513.2}, {"text": "towards ensuring that the right uh amount and spread of representation is", "start": 23513.2, "end": 23520.24}, {"text": "included in the consultative process towards policy", "start": 23520.24, "end": 23526.76}, {"text": "changes uh yes chair so the uh you won't find it reflected necessarily in a specific line item it is something we", "start": 23527.04, "end": 23533.32}, {"text": "incorporate into the capital budgets for the uh for the various initiatives um", "start": 23533.32, "end": 23538.558}, {"text": "one of the reasons why some of the the the planning initiatives and policy initiatives do take some time as we try to build a robust consultation process", "start": 23538.558, "end": 23545.16}, {"text": "uh within them uh and then we do have within within the planning division we have some staff who do specialize in", "start": 23545.16, "end": 23550.36}, {"text": "engagement who can provide advice to planners and others who are leading projects as to best practice for how they should engage uh and then the", "start": 23550.36, "end": 23556.68}, {"text": "expectation is that the planners on the file would would would lead uh those engagement processes um we do have a", "start": 23556.68, "end": 23563.36}, {"text": "review underway this year within planning on uh approach to engagement um", "start": 23563.36, "end": 23568.398}, {"text": "make sure that's reflecting the new direction that came out through chapter one of the new official plan and the expectations that are set out there", "start": 23568.398, "end": 23574.68}, {"text": "around Broad inclusivity in terms of the engagement that we are doing um so that's something we'll be working on uh", "start": 23574.68, "end": 23580.12}, {"text": "through 2025 uh specific to the one issue that was raised around um retail", "start": 23580.12, "end": 23585.558}, {"text": "commercial uses in neighborhoods we have not yet um devised a plan in terms of the council direction that was given to", "start": 23585.558, "end": 23590.92}, {"text": "do a additional engagement around that one so I think the challenge is that you know a lot of us deal with our local", "start": 23590.92, "end": 23598.36}, {"text": "planning Division and together we have pretty good Community engagement", "start": 23598.36, "end": 23603.718}, {"text": "processes that we've worked out but when it comes to Citywide policies it's not", "start": 23603.718, "end": 23609.24}, {"text": "as clear which part of the planning division is responsible for the Citywide", "start": 23609.24, "end": 23615.798}, {"text": "engagement or if all of the regional development divisions should be part of", "start": 23615.798, "end": 23622.558}, {"text": "that process uh so uh chair I think that is", "start": 23622.558, "end": 23629.44}, {"text": "one of the things we want to look at through the Engagement review is that it is being sort of uh equitably delivered across the city uh and not just", "start": 23629.44, "end": 23635.798}, {"text": "geographically but within communities that we know are underserved and uh we sometimes are challenged in bringing them out and and hearing their voices", "start": 23635.798, "end": 23642}, {"text": "through the consultation process that we do have um and uh like I said it is it", "start": 23642, "end": 23647.12}, {"text": "is typically LED through the policy plan or the project manager who is leading that particular policy file um with the", "start": 23647.12, "end": 23653.28}, {"text": "advice of some of the engagement experts we have within the division okay thank you I will follow up", "start": 23653.28, "end": 23659.04}, {"text": "offline about the Avenue study that hap is happening too because I I'm not sure", "start": 23659.04, "end": 23664.44}, {"text": "the one town hall that has happened online is sufficient to get the reach that we need thank", "start": 23664.44, "end": 23670.958}, {"text": "you okay uh is coun an still there he oh there he is councelor cassan did", "start": 23670.958, "end": 23678.798}, {"text": "you have questions of City Planning and Development review chair I do have one question if I", "start": 23678.798, "end": 23685.12}, {"text": "if I could sure that is with respect going back to um uh Jag's presentation", "start": 23685.12, "end": 23691.958}, {"text": "on new positions uh in the budget comparing 24 to uh 25 from 1459 to", "start": 23691.958, "end": 23700.08}, {"text": "1533 there's an additional 74 new positions where are these positions going to uh Jag and and and what", "start": 23700.08, "end": 23708.16}, {"text": "positions for the whole cluster is that the whole cluster yeah", "start": 23708.16, "end": 23713.76}, {"text": "yeah Mr charma was giving a presentation on on the whole development and growth Services cluster which is uh five", "start": 23713.76, "end": 23720.76}, {"text": "divisions yeah uh the CFO can maybe uh give you the short answer yes i' like to", "start": 23720.76, "end": 23726.68}, {"text": "know where these positions are being directed to the speaker the majority of the positions are actually in trono building who would likely be able to", "start": 23726.68, "end": 23732.92}, {"text": "speak to that uh in a in a few moments so they're in building okay yeah", "start": 23732.92, "end": 23739.92}, {"text": "which we'll get to very quick very shortly yeah because I may have to uh I", "start": 23739.92, "end": 23745.32}, {"text": "promised to to save housing secretary until Council perks got back so I may skip over and go to Toronto building for", "start": 23745.32, "end": 23751.44}, {"text": "a couple of minutes very good depends on how long we spend on on planning uh no more questions for uh uh City Planning", "start": 23751.44, "end": 23758.6}, {"text": "in in particular a wait a wait for building yeah okay uh uh Deputy 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{"text": "work that's correct so it's it's taking the work that was done R employment conversions and once we have a", "start": 23812.92, "end": 23818.24}, {"text": "provincial decision on those then there was work to be done in terms of a number of those uh would become identified as", "start": 23818.24, "end": 23824.16}, {"text": "regeneration areas subject to some further studies that would be led regeration area", "start": 23824.16, "end": 23829.2}, {"text": "study oh okay so you those positions then uh rest with your division to do", "start": 23829.2, "end": 23835.52}, {"text": "that type of work through the chair yes I believe all of those positions are within City Planning okay okay and so um", "start": 23835.52, "end": 23844.398}, {"text": "uh I note that there's a there's an increase to development application fees of 4% that that's already been uh uh", "start": 23844.398, "end": 23851.24}, {"text": "outlined and and and highlighted um we also have uh just a well it seems", 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{"text": "uh uh uh application reviews done in a timely manner because I we're we're pretty much going to have to guarantee", "start": 23901.638, "end": 23907.92}, {"text": "that if we're raising the fees at the same time are we not yeah so councelor the 4% that is referenced in the budget", "start": 23907.92, "end": 23914.76}, {"text": "it's our annual inflationary increase this does not contemplate any increases in application fease at this time okay", "start": 23914.76, "end": 23921.6}, {"text": "so they can't treat it as a surprise in any way shape or form okay inflationary yeah but it but are we in a position", "start": 23921.6, "end": 23929.44}, {"text": "that we're able to uh uh move more efficiently through each individual application given that the traffic has", "start": 23929.44, "end": 23936.28}, {"text": "slowed down a little bit uh the the answer is yes and I think we we've uh We've demonstrated some", "start": 23936.28, "end": 23942.92}, {"text": "really good success um we have a quarterly report that goes to the planning and housing committee and as", "start": 23942.92, "end": 23948.36}, {"text": "mentioned earlier we're seeing on average about an 80% reduction in our review timelines which is great wow um", "start": 23948.36, "end": 23955.32}, {"text": "so that's that's really uh good news um I I must uh say although we have seen a", "start": 23955.32, "end": 23962.6}, {"text": "bit of a Slowdown in applications our volumes have remained steady the teams are working uh on the new applications", "start": 23962.6, "end": 23970.718}, {"text": "coming in which is about a 16% uh reduction from 2023 levels so not as big", "start": 23970.718, "end": 23975.798}, {"text": "as we had initially anticipated we are also working on our backlog so there is a backlog of applications that were pre", "start": 23975.798, "end": 23983.32}, {"text": "Bill 109 applications so the the slight slowdown has allowed the team to also", "start": 23983.32, "end": 23989.08}, {"text": "focus on catching up with those applications okay and um The Well", "start": 23989.08, "end": 23996.6}, {"text": "planning it's it's never been quite cost recovery but the the goal was to to have the application fees cover theost cost", "start": 23996.6, "end": 24003.6}, {"text": "of reviewing the applications but I I'm also seeing because of the provincial", "start": 24003.6, "end": 24010.32}, {"text": "legislative changes we it I don't know if it's just a trend for us in in North York I suspect also in the downtown area", "start": 24010.32, "end": 24017.638}, {"text": "where we have applications and they tend to carry on and carry over because you", "start": 24017.638, "end": 24024.84}, {"text": "apply then there's a legislative change and then you want something reconsidered and then you oh maybe I can change this", "start": 24024.84, "end": 24030.878}, {"text": "and now I can uh upzone this maybe I want to go back and I want another Opa", "start": 24030.878, "end": 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24187.04}, {"text": "okay okay is councelor chanti still on the", "start": 24189.478, "end": 24195}, {"text": "line yes I'm here so councelor chanti uh we're uh oops sorry uh we're at Toronto", "start": 24195.32, "end": 24202.68}, {"text": "building now and you were asking about the new positions in uh in in this", "start": 24202.68, "end": 24208.08}, {"text": "cluster and and the The Lion Share of them are in this division so you wanted to outline of those new positions if you", "start": 24208.08, "end": 24215.32}, {"text": "want to go ahead yes thank you chair so are you okay with the question", "start": 24215.32, "end": 24222.798}, {"text": "so yeah yeah thank", "start": 24222.798, "end": 24227.122}, {"text": "you to the chair 55 additional positions so councelor Gandy was asking for I", "start": 24230.68, "end": 24236.2}, {"text": "wasn't didn't hear the question but uh uh chair I can repeat it yeah if you", "start": 24236.2, "end": 24241.36}, {"text": "wanted if you want to frame 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do thank you go ahead um and good afternoon everyone um one of the", "start": 24483.76, "end": 24491.878}, {"text": "questions that I have is around the uh foregone revenue for the rental incentive programs that we're standing", "start": 24491.878, "end": 24497.958}, {"text": "up uh importantly I think necessarily um we know we can afford to do 7,000 units", "start": 24497.958, "end": 24504.638}, {"text": "as a proof of concept um can you talk to us about what would be required to expand the program further and build", "start": 24504.638, "end": 24510.878}, {"text": "more housing and if there's anything in the budget to lead us to expansion here um yes uh", "start": 24510.878, "end": 24520.16}, {"text": "chair and thank you councelor councelor moley so in our December report um that", "start": 24520.16, "end": 24526.16}, {"text": "we brought to council we identified um that we would need really", "start": 24526.16, "end": 24531.32}, {"text": "about an additional billion dollars from 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excellent thank", "start": 24957.12, "end": 24965.52}, {"text": "you there's your questions okay oh oh yeah well that", "start": 24968.76, "end": 24974.878}, {"text": "whenever I allow one more question it always ends up being a long one that requires two staff members to", "start": 24974.878, "end": 24980.28}, {"text": "answer okay uh uh councelor perks yeah um I'm not sure if we have the right", "start": 24980.28, "end": 24987.24}, {"text": "mechanisms for answering this but I think I'm going to explore it anyway uh", "start": 24987.24, "end": 24992.28}, {"text": "at budget launch a member of council uh was raising the fact that uh the", "start": 24992.28, "end": 24999.04}, {"text": "Deferred property taxes and development charges associated with the new rental creation program creates an ongoing", "start": 24999.04, "end": 25005.92}, {"text": "operating pressure for the city of Toronto and the the thing I was trying", "start": 25005.92, "end": 25011.958}, {"text": "to understand and nobody in the room had your expertise is", "start": 25011.958, "end": 25018.12}, {"text": "um isn't it the case that if we're not providing in housing for someone uh", "start": 25018.12, "end": 25024.92}, {"text": "subsidized housing I'm I'm talking about the subsidized portion there's a very good chance they're going to wind up in", "start": 25024.92, "end": 25030.2}, {"text": "our shelter system in the mental health system or the prison system and", "start": 25030.2, "end": 25035.798}, {"text": "that while we can't in the same way as we manage some of our other specific", "start": 25035.798, "end": 25042.08}, {"text": "expenditures we can certainly say in the long term by creating these affordable units we're actually", "start": 25042.08, "end": 25048.68}, {"text": "reducing the tax burden on torontonians by not paying those even higher", "start": 25048.68, "end": 25055.878}, {"text": "costs um chair I mean yes the the housing to plan and the actions that are", "start": 25057.558, "end": 25064.32}, {"text": "reflected in the budget speak to us taking action across the entire housing Continuum and so I think uh what you see", "start": 25064.32, "end": 25071.76}, {"text": "here is some actions very much targeted at people who are either experiencing", "start": 25071.76, "end": 25077.04}, {"text": "homelessness need Supportive Housing um because that very directly provides", "start": 25077.04, "end": 25082.12}, {"text": "housing um which is much cheaper than providing shelters so I think um our estimated costs are around 24,000 in", "start": 25082.12, "end": 25089.44}, {"text": "operating per year and um significantly more for for shelters having said that", "start": 25089.44, "end": 25095.24}, {"text": "though the relationship between the different sectors of the housing market I think means that where we're not", "start": 25095.24, "end": 25100.92}, {"text": "providing new purpose built rental um which is related to the incentives we", "start": 25100.92, "end": 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thank you okay did did oh councelor Chang", "start": 25191.12, "end": 25196.32}, {"text": "sorry about that yeah thank you through the speaker um", "start": 25196.32, "end": 25204}, {"text": "out of the 65,000 approval Target for 2030 what percentage uh will are we", "start": 25204, "end": 25211.52}, {"text": "estimating will be City built versus private developer or not for-profit", "start": 25211.52, "end": 25218.08}, {"text": "delivered uh chair in I think in the original plan for housing too we had originally identified about 10,000 units", "start": 25219.68, "end": 25227.28}, {"text": "that could be built on city land um but since that time we have brought several", "start": 25227.28, "end": 25232.84}, {"text": "reports to council which have identified more land that the city can make available and I think at the last count", "start": 25232.84, "end": 25238.878}, {"text": "we're up to about 177,000 units potentially that we could deliver on city land if we had the right amount 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continue to lead and provide the road map to how units more", "start": 25295.32, "end": 25301.16}, {"text": "units the right type of units can be delivered on a consistent basis and continue to advocate in the way that we", "start": 25301.16, "end": 25307.28}, {"text": "have the best way to Advocate is both to show the way forward and also to keep up", "start": 25307.28, "end": 25312.478}, {"text": "our level of investment show that we have a proven model and invite them to join um chair I", "start": 25312.478, "end": 25319.958}, {"text": "would I would go further actually and say um you know if you have a shovel ready", "start": 25319.958, "end": 25325.08}, {"text": "project if you have a piece of land that's ready to go or even if you have a completed project um that we can take", "start": 25325.08, "end": 25331.84}, {"text": "City we can switch out City money and and come in have the federal provincial", "start": 25331.84, "end": 25337.16}, {"text": "come uh governments come in at the last moment just before these units are about to open so that we can do more with our", "start": 25337.16, "end": 25343.04}, {"text": "investment um we can do all of those things hope they're listening uh in the third graph on page", "start": 25343.04, "end": 25351.12}, {"text": "five uh it says that 2,650 uh people or households were", "start": 25351.12, "end": 25359.92}, {"text": "housed into rgi units uh in 2024 where did that capacity come from", "start": 25359.92, "end": 25366.52}, {"text": "because we hear there it's very tight is that turnover people are transitioning out of rgi and where where are the", "start": 25366.52, "end": 25374.76}, {"text": "where's that space coming from thank you for the count question counselor and through the the chair um that's the", "start": 25374.76, "end": 25381.08}, {"text": "regular turnover within our rent geared income program uh so uh it is true um", "start": 25381.08, "end": 25386.398}, {"text": "that of our you know 70,000 plus units 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had had with the province kind of ends at the end of 20125 so we need", "start": 25429.718, "end": 25437}, {"text": "them to repeat that three-year commitment that they had made to us and then in in toal toal adding new um units", "start": 25437, "end": 25443.878}, {"text": "we need in total $60 million and if we continue to build new", "start": 25443.878, "end": 25449.958}, {"text": "Supportive Housing as we intend through the federal uh substream of the", "start": 25449.958, "end": 25455.76}, {"text": "affordable housing fund as it is now then that number would increase accordingly so does 48 million cover", "start": 25455.76, "end": 25462.76}, {"text": "this year uh Supportive Housing needs or is it 60 million um so the 48 million is for the", "start": 25462.76, "end": 25470.478}, {"text": "units that we had already open and then we're adding some new units that are opening in 2025 so they won't have a", "start": 25470.478, "end": 25477.04}, {"text": "full year of operations but our 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"trying we're doing what I just said which is we're trying a pilot to prove that it works we have um an an new", "start": 25525.32, "end": 25531.878}, {"text": "annual investment of a million dollarss and we're adding 500 um 500,000 so it", "start": 25531.878, "end": 25537.08}, {"text": "would be a $1.5 million program this year and we'll be doing an evaluation of that we're doing actually a complete", "start": 25537.08, "end": 25543.558}, {"text": "evaluation of all our Supportive Housing approaches this year and again using that for advocacy uh to continue this", "start": 25543.558, "end": 25551.08}, {"text": "type of work and to demonstrate that it works great thank you so", "start": 25551.08, "end": 25556.12}, {"text": "much okay uh I think I think that's everyone now I just have a couple of questions uh one's a very small one", "start": 25556.12, "end": 25563.36}, {"text": "they're they're both Capital questions um I see a little amount here for a couple of years running for the", 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once", "start": 25703.6, "end": 25709.16}, {"text": "those projects have become public then we can provide a map for uh where they are in the city right and that's in that", "start": 25709.16, "end": 25716.12}, {"text": "report that's upcoming okay I'll wait I'll wait for then so those are my questions and I think that's it yeah", "start": 25716.12, "end": 25723.6}, {"text": "that's it thank you very much", "start": 25723.6, "end": 25727.52}, {"text": "yeah we just have H uh Waterfront revitalization left Council perks we did", "start": 25728.84, "end": 25734.798}, {"text": "Toronto building to buy a little time while you were you were out uh you're okay with that you didn't have any", "start": 25734.798, "end": 25740.12}, {"text": "questions on Toronto Bild building it not only does he have any", "start": 25740.12, "end": 25746.24}, {"text": "questions he's not even paying any attention I'm solving a problem solve", "start": 25746.24, "end": 25752.12}, {"text": "the problem go right Ahad", "start": 25752.12, "end": 25758.558}, {"text": "best actually they they yeah we did yeah yeah", "start": 25758.92, "end": 25765.08}, {"text": "you have access okay uh so we're on to Waterfront revitalization I don't know", "start": 25765.08, "end": 25771.68}, {"text": "if there are any uh virtual attendees on this", "start": 25771.68, "end": 25777.76}, {"text": "one okay councelor Fletcher didn't come back she oh okay she was asking earlier", "start": 25778.558, "end": 25786.04}, {"text": "councelor chanti we're at Waterfront revitalization did you have any", "start": 25786.04, "end": 25791.876}, {"text": "questions seeing none moving right along Deputy Mayor Morley do you have any Waterfront revitalization", "start": 25792.718, "end": 25798.558}, {"text": "questions I'm good Madam chair thank you sorry no questions from me thank you", "start": 25798.558, "end": 25805.44}, {"text": "okay great okay uh Waterfront revitalization this this might be the", "start": 25805.44, "end": 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Financial Officer and Kate Sergeant our manager of strategic planning uh thank", "start": 25990.638, "end": 25997}, {"text": "you to the committee uh I want to begin by thanking uh the CFO and the City Finance team for the strong support in", "start": 25997, "end": 26003.798}, {"text": "preparing this year's budget quite a lot of work goes into this and there's been lots of back and forth work uh with that department and we and we very much", "start": 26003.798, "end": 26009.878}, {"text": "appreciate it also want to thank the housing Secretariat for guidance and collaboration along the way uh and our", "start": 26009.878, "end": 26015.478}, {"text": "work in collaboration with Toronto seniors housing Corporation we are presenting a Consolidated and balanced budget that", "start": 26015.478, "end": 26021.44}, {"text": "represents consistent and continued essential Frontline housing and supports for lowincome and Equity deserving", "start": 26021.44, "end": 26027.36}, {"text": "tenants the budget that is presented today was approved at the Toronto Community Housing Corporation board of directors back in December and we'll", "start": 26027.36, "end": 26034.44}, {"text": "move on to the next page Toronto Community Housing corporation's vision is to provide", "start": 26034.44, "end": 26040.12}, {"text": "quality homes in vibrant communities where tenants are proud to live and staff are proud to work our core mission", "start": 26040.12, "end": 26046.08}, {"text": "is to provide Clean safe well-maintained affordable homes for residents through collaboration and with residents needs", "start": 26046.08, "end": 26052.478}, {"text": "at the Forefront we provide more than more homes and support tenants social needs making connections to services and", "start": 26052.478, "end": 26057.92}, {"text": "opportunities that are critical for housing stability Economic Development and fostering communities where people", "start": 26057.92, "end": 26063.52}, {"text": "can Thrive the 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{"text": "simply have no Alternatives when it comes to the opportunities to leave social housing we also know that tenants face", "start": 26180.6, "end": 26186.36}, {"text": "significant economic barriers the average rgi household income is just over 19,000", "start": 26186.36, "end": 26191.798}, {"text": "and so to put that in perspective that's a little more than uh half of a minimum wage annual income and well below what", "start": 26191.798, "end": 26199.24}, {"text": "considered to be a livable income within the city of Toronto the average average rgi rent that's paid into US is $448 a", "start": 26199.24, "end": 26207.28}, {"text": "month and I just finished telling you that it cost us a little over, dollar to actually operate a social housing unit", "start": 26207.28, "end": 26213.32}, {"text": "so right there you can see that the rent that's generated through rgi will there will never be a model where the rgi", "start": 26213.32, "end": 26219.24}, {"text": "rents can self- sustain the entirety of social housing it was never intended to operate that way and it does not work", "start": 26219.24, "end": 26224.68}, {"text": "that way and that's really why you see the continued increase in City subsidy that continues to flow to", "start": 26224.68, "end": 26231.602}, {"text": "tchc we can't deliver our services on Revenue alone and there will always be a need for additional subsidy from the city of Toronto and from other funders", "start": 26232.68, "end": 26239.36}, {"text": "to ensure we continue to provide uh the operation of our housing the last item on the on the column on the left there", "start": 26239.36, "end": 26245.558}, {"text": "shows that 44% of our households primary income source is through Ontario Works or ODSP and and I and committee members", "start": 26245.558, "end": 26252.04}, {"text": "will be familiar with the fact that ODSP rates have have risen minimally but Ontario Works rates have not risen since", "start": 26252.04, "end": 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{"text": "that you see just sort in the in the left side column there and then others that experience chronic gun violence so", "start": 26298.718, "end": 26304.32}, {"text": "there are 33 that we've identified under chronic vulnerabilities and nine that we've identified under chronic gun", "start": 26304.32, "end": 26310.16}, {"text": "violence when you when you look at our budget and the work that we are doing at Toronto Community Housing you will consistently", "start": 26310.16, "end": 26316}, {"text": "see a disproportionate investment in providing additional services and supports in these types of communities", "start": 26316, "end": 26322.04}, {"text": "because that's where it's needed the most and on the cost side I would point out that we've just done a recent", "start": 26322.04, "end": 26327.76}, {"text": "analysis to look at what does it cost to actually operate a building like this a building that's experiencing", "start": 26327.76, "end": 26333.04}, {"text": "extraordinary High needs and regardless of what cost category you look at the cost of Maintenance the cost of pest", "start": 26333.04, "end": 26339.958}, {"text": "control um the cost of insurance and the impacts of insurance claims every one of those costs is much higher in these", "start": 26339.958, "end": 26346.6}, {"text": "higher needs buildings than what we experience across the average of our portfolio and so investing in providing", "start": 26346.6, "end": 26353.04}, {"text": "improvements for supports uh Within These communities is critically important to provide supports to those", "start": 26353.04, "end": 26358.36}, {"text": "tenants but also to help address the rising costs that we continue to experience within these particular", "start": 26358.36, "end": 26363.76}, {"text": "housing communities I raised this as part of our", "start": 26363.76, "end": 26369.84}, {"text": "budget discussion because we believe that through greater investment and supports for tenants 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"start": 26404.798, "end": 26411.36}, {"text": "we're focused on organizational Excellence building High performing teams that utilize business intelligence tools and we're focused on long-term", "start": 26411.36, "end": 26418.52}, {"text": "Financial sustainability that reflects our mandate operational environment and the involving needs of our tenants our", "start": 26418.52, "end": 26424.36}, {"text": "priority actions will'll discuss throughout this presentation outline how we're going to achieve to how we aim to achieve these outcomes", "start": 26424.36, "end": 26431.798}, {"text": "so the next slide provides a summary uh of our of our budget going forward we presented a balanced budget for 2025", "start": 26431.798, "end": 26438.478}, {"text": "with increases in City Investments including a base subsidy increase of $ 53.5 million including $1.3 million for", "start": 26438.478, "end": 26446.76}, {"text": "new initiatives within those new initiatives there's also onetime funding 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non-salary inflation costs of $ 31.6 million that includes 5.9 million for", "start": 26494.36, "end": 26502}, {"text": "service contract rate increases uh nearly $9 million for restoration and containment work $4.8 million to address", "start": 26502, "end": 26509.798}, {"text": "the growing backlog of work orders within our buildings a $6.2 million increase in our utility costs 3.1", "start": 26509.798, "end": 26517.08}, {"text": "million for insurance premiums property taxes and mortgage princip and interest and $2.8 million in existing program", "start": 26517.08, "end": 26524.04}, {"text": "enhancements and efficiency improvements I also want to point out that through the budgeting process tchc", "start": 26524.04, "end": 26529.12}, {"text": "was able to identify 12.5 million of annualized savings and so by by", "start": 26529.12, "end": 26535.04}, {"text": "including those in our our net budget submission uh that represents funding that we did not have to come back to the", "start": 26535.04, "end": 26540.68}, {"text": "city to ask for uh throughout this year's", "start": 26540.68, "end": 26544.556}, {"text": "process there's a variety of ways that we we generate that 122.5 million of savings including line byline reviews of", "start": 26545.718, "end": 26551.718}, {"text": "our various departmental budgets uh and efficiency offsets uh one novel way this year is that we've joined a number of", "start": 26551.718, "end": 26557.32}, {"text": "new procurement buying groups and so the the basic costs of many of our our procurements have come down sub", "start": 26557.32, "end": 26563.44}, {"text": "substantially uh and those those add up uh given the the tremendous buying power of Tron community", "start": 26563.44, "end": 26569.558}, {"text": "housing so move on to the capital plan on the next page the total 10-year Capital plan is", "start": 26569.558, "end": 26575.718}, {"text": "$3.5 billion and continues to provide critical investment to advance the 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{"text": "Gardener and DVP upload towards state of good repair and our building repairs", "start": 26619.958, "end": 26625.24}, {"text": "program as a high level overview of the budget plan $2.3 billion is included in", "start": 26625.24, "end": 26630.52}, {"text": "building repair which supports our state of good repair program funding critical Capital repairs across the", "start": 26630.52, "end": 26635.718}, {"text": "portfolio I would remind committee members that uh Al although we we invest", "start": 26635.718, "end": 26640.76}, {"text": "heavily in capital repairs across our portfolio over two-thirds of our buildings are still in poor or critical", "start": 26640.76, "end": 26646.398}, {"text": "condition when you look at the the overall condition of our of our facilities there is $1.1 billion in", "start": 26646.398, "end": 26652.44}, {"text": "development Capital which supports the continued implementation of key revitilization projects there is $24.5 million in it", "start": 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be a reasonable standard of service for our tenants and and across our", "start": 26772.52, "end": 26777.958}, {"text": "building portfolio continues to be an ongoing risk from the perspective of how well we can maintain and operate our", "start": 26777.958, "end": 26783.44}, {"text": "buildings how well we can provide the necessary supports for tenants and how well we can make those ongoing Capital", "start": 26783.44, "end": 26788.878}, {"text": "Investments and renewal AC across our building portfolio we've we've operated within a constrained environment for a long time", "start": 26788.878, "end": 26795.36}, {"text": "and this budget moves us forward in terms of our ability to meet improved standards going forward and we'll talk about that as we get into some of the", "start": 26795.36, "end": 26800.798}, {"text": "increases within the operating budget the second risk uh is around Capital funding and sustainment of our assets", "start": 26800.798, "end": 26807.16}, {"text": "I've 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"remarks I think we've said enough happy to take any questions um well councelor perks won't", "start": 28145.798, "end": 28152.28}, {"text": "be asking about swansey Muse it's right here it's right there okay I asked them prob um so I'm", "start": 28152.28, "end": 28159.16}, {"text": "going to go uh virtual first I'm just going to check uh do we just have Deputy more Morley or is there anyone else", "start": 28159.16, "end": 28166.556}, {"text": "there oh okay counselor croan uh we we see you're logged on but your camera's", "start": 28167.478, "end": 28173.16}, {"text": "not on we are on tchc right now we've just finished their presentation if you have any questions and I talked long", "start": 28173.16, "end": 28180.28}, {"text": "enough and he didn't turn his camera on so too late Deputy Mayor Morley thank you madam chair I just have", "start": 28180.28, "end": 28187.84}, {"text": "a couple of quick ones um the first one and apologies if I miss this in the presentation but I noted that there are", "start": 28187.84, "end": 28194.6}, {"text": "still consideration of the tshc assets as part of the ongoing discussion with", "start": 28194.6, "end": 28200.958}, {"text": "tcc's budget I my first question is what is the future of that look like is there", "start": 28200.958, "end": 28207.718}, {"text": "an anticipated uncoupling of the management uh of the assets specific to", "start": 28207.718, "end": 28213.08}, {"text": "both of these corporations or is the intention to continue to um couple them", "start": 28213.08, "end": 28220.318}, {"text": "together through the chair I'll start and then perhaps Tom Hunter wants to to ra talk as well um so tchc continues to", "start": 28220.318, "end": 28228.318}, {"text": "own own and maintain and Provide Capital renewal for all of the the housing stock", "start": 28228.318, "end": 28233.84}, {"text": "within the portfolio including uh housing that is operated by Toronto seniors housing corporation uh Toronto", "start": 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or do you want to blend I'm in your hands councelor do that's", "start": 28278.52, "end": 28284.36}, {"text": "that's okay um it sounds like we haven't landed anywhere concrete with respect to that I know um both boards have sort of", "start": 28284.36, "end": 28292}, {"text": "discussed it at a high level as this transition has been underway um so I'll set that aside from now keep an eye on", "start": 28292, "end": 28298.798}, {"text": "it that's why I was thinking of of taking the question separately because the separate boards adopted the separate", "start": 28298.798, "end": 28304.84}, {"text": "budgets yeah yeah yeah no for sure um thank you just one other quick one um", "start": 28304.84, "end": 28310.638}, {"text": "with respect to um long-term planning uh we heard about some of the challenges", "start": 28310.638, "end": 28317.28}, {"text": "around Rising costs Rising demand and a sort of unstable funding um situation to", "start": 28317.28, "end": 28324.2}, {"text": "manage 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appropriately supporting tchc as we know so many of um", "start": 28406.28, "end": 28413.16}, {"text": "the challenges that we're navigating are centralized in in some of these um communities and they deserve our best", "start": 28413.16, "end": 28419.6}, {"text": "effort so thank you for yours and I look forward to the continued discussions thank you okay uh thank you", "start": 28419.6, "end": 28427.68}, {"text": "uh councelor Moy thank you and mam speaker uh what strategies are being considered to", "start": 28427.68, "end": 28434.2}, {"text": "address the rising uh S sogr Repair backlog and reduce future risk thanks", "start": 28434.2, "end": 28440.6}, {"text": "SW so so through the chair I think it's important to understand that um there will always be a requirement for state", "start": 28440.6, "end": 28447.04}, {"text": "of good repair Investments ongoing across our portfolio our industry experts tell us we should be investing", "start": 28447.04, "end": 28452.718}, {"text": "somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 to 4% annually in capital renewal across our asset portfolio when you think about our", "start": 28452.718, "end": 28459.08}, {"text": "portfolio being worth about $4 billion that's a significant investment uh the", "start": 28459.08, "end": 28464.12}, {"text": "city and we participated in work with the city earlier this year to look at what's a what's a reasonable level of", "start": 28464.12, "end": 28469.84}, {"text": "investment overall for from an asset management perspective and we came in at about the $330 $340 million range would", "start": 28469.84, "end": 28476.6}, {"text": "be a reasonable level of investment but I will stress that's sort of a Treading Water number right that's keeping us at", "start": 28476.6, "end": 28482.6}, {"text": "the level we are and not further degrading uh our buildings remember that", "start": 28482.6, "end": 28488.08}, {"text": "two-thirds of our buildings are already in poor or critical conditions so we're 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"incidents on Toronto community housing properties has been on a a long reduction path uh with the city for I'd", "start": 28649, "end": 28656.76}, {"text": "say probably three or four years now uh so that's that's great but but obviously doesn't solve the problem there there's", "start": 28656.76, "end": 28662.68}, {"text": "still significant investment that's needed and we and we need to be Tracking not just the most serious incidents but", "start": 28662.68, "end": 28668.92}, {"text": "but any and all incidents that that we experience and I would come back to the the ones that we looked at in that analysis right even things like", "start": 28668.92, "end": 28675.76}, {"text": "vandalism and the repeated maintenance that we need to to do within buildings are ways for us to measure uh whether or", "start": 28675.76, "end": 28681.318}, {"text": "not we're making a difference and whether or not we're reducing those kinds of situations within a building making it better for the tenants and and", "start": 28681.318, "end": 28687.878}, {"text": "making it more affordable for us to maintain the building as well okay uh to", "start": 28687.878, "end": 28693.878}, {"text": "continue the theme of security what are the key milestones for implementing the cyber security recommendations outlining", "start": 28693.878, "end": 28699.24}, {"text": "the audit the general report and how will they improve systems Integrity again you may have heard that aor of the", "start": 28699.24, "end": 28705.958}, {"text": "school boards went through uh cyber reached recently we've had them in City", "start": 28705.958, "end": 28711.12}, {"text": "departments as well the library being one of them um what steps have you been take have you taken especially since the", "start": 28711.12, "end": 28717.76}, {"text": "auditor report you know outlines some of the concerns yeah thank you and through", "start": 28717.76, "end": 28723.2}, {"text": "the chair it's it's a significant area of investment that you'll see in our budget submission here um I I I speak", "start": 28723.2, "end": 28728.92}, {"text": "regularly with my counterparts from other housing providers as well and one of the other largest housing providers", "start": 28728.92, "end": 28734.52}, {"text": "in the province also went through a major cyber incident uh and it's taken them uh 4 months plus to be able to get", "start": 28734.52, "end": 28741.28}, {"text": "their systems back online just to be able to properly collect rent and and manage their tencies uh so it's a huge", "start": 28741.28, "end": 28747.16}, {"text": "risk for us we we've identified it as such and it's one of the largest areas of Investments that we are making this", "start": 28747.16, "end": 28753}, {"text": "year both to increase the skills and capabilities on our it and cyber security teams uh as well as to continue", "start": 28753, "end": 28761.16}, {"text": "our journey of moving towards more robust platforms so getting off of Old", 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{"text": "not not hopefully not specific uh incidences of breach um but but where we", "start": 28803.798, "end": 28808.958}, {"text": "we experience attacks and how we are managing those going forward so we're very much focused on that within this budget okay I'm at time thank you yep", "start": 28808.958, "end": 28816.6}, {"text": "okay uh councelor mckel Deputy Mayor Melby uh thank you madam chair um will", "start": 28816.6, "end": 28824.28}, {"text": "will you be sending all counselors a list of investments in their Awards you pre viously did this and walked them", "start": 28824.28, "end": 28829.958}, {"text": "through what will be happening we'll be doing that again the chair be happy to do that yes um we can look at both the", "start": 28829.958, "end": 28836.76}, {"text": "new development opportunities that are happening as well as Capital Improvements and state of good repair Investments that we're making and and climate action Investments great um so", "start": 28836.76, 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keys and things like that okay uh so through the chair a couple of very", "start": 28959.318, "end": 28964.478}, {"text": "specific things that that I'll point to um there's a significant capital investment in this budget that that looks to uh address outstanding", "start": 28964.478, "end": 28971.958}, {"text": "recommendations of many of our security audits of our most uh uh of the communities that experience the most", "start": 28971.958, "end": 28977.84}, {"text": "levels of violence so one of the um challenges we've had in the past is we've gone out and done these audits of", "start": 28977.84, "end": 28984.12}, {"text": "communities and learned you know you can make improvements to the entryway you can make improvements to sight lines lighting cameras but we didn't have", "start": 28984.12, "end": 28991.2}, {"text": "dedicated Capital within our budgets to address many of those concerns so in the past we found ourselves negotiating uh", "start": 28991.2, "end": 28998.44}, {"text": "with our with our state of good repair budget or or other sources to try to address those issues this pulls that out", "start": 28998.44, "end": 29004.76}, {"text": "and and creates dedicated funding directly to address safety related concerns that have been identified", "start": 29004.76, "end": 29010.318}, {"text": "within uh our systems now you also talked about technology and that's a", "start": 29010.318, "end": 29015.52}, {"text": "significant challenge for us as well our operating technology is very old within our our organization and our our door", "start": 29015.52, "end": 29021.52}, {"text": "entry systems and monitoring systems are are very old so this budget doesn't solve that problem this budget opens the", "start": 29021.52, "end": 29027.84}, {"text": "door for us to have uh initial investments in assessing and analyzing and trying to find options for where do", "start": 29027.84, "end": 29034.76}, {"text": "we go from here because much of that technology is end of light life and there's a probably a significant investment coming down the road that", "start": 29034.76, "end": 29041.08}, {"text": "we'll have to make uh in bringing our operational technology for our buildings up to an appropriate state so that we", "start": 29041.08, "end": 29047.2}, {"text": "can address those kinds of issues sorry for your um your security", "start": 29047.2, "end": 29054.638}, {"text": "Community officers your special constables I think that's um how are you with vacancies I think in the past", "start": 29054.638, "end": 29060.16}, {"text": "you've had quite a few vacancies are you fully staffed up around all of that right now so through the chair no we're", "start": 29060.16, "end": 29065.638}, {"text": "not we we've held quite we have have quite a number of vacancies in our community safety unit and our special", "start": 29065.638, "end": 29071.24}, {"text": "constables I don't have the exact number but I could I could ask for for details if you'd like to 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"end": 29189.24}, {"text": "which is unfortunate okay that was a minute long thank you just looking at the clock and and we still have to ask", "start": 29189.24, "end": 29195.24}, {"text": "questions of the seniors corporation uh I have councelor Perks and councelor Jen first question and I", "start": 29195.24, "end": 29202.478}, {"text": "don't know if it's to you or to the CFO does this budget really say we're taking $300 million out of a highway and", "start": 29202.478, "end": 29209.16}, {"text": "putting it into housing is that really what it says um from the chair I'll jump in yes", "start": 29209.16, "end": 29216.24}, {"text": "it does that is a essentially what it is saying have I been moved to a different timeline okay that's all I needed to", "start": 29216.24, "end": 29224.28}, {"text": "know CER Chang thank you through the chair is", "start": 29224.28, "end": 29230.04}, {"text": "tchc a an agency or a landlord so through the chair U we are a", "start": 29230.04, "end": 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{"text": "into those areas or invite others into those areas to help provide those necessary supports for our tenants the", "start": 29274.68, "end": 29281.92}, {"text": "reality is our communities suffer individual tenants and families suffer their neighbors suffer um and and so too", "start": 29281.92, "end": 29289}, {"text": "do our financials in the city's budget because the cost to continue to provide", "start": 29289, "end": 29294.44}, {"text": "maintenance uh and address those issues from a reactive basis is tremendously", "start": 29294.44, "end": 29300.08}, {"text": "more expensive than trying to tackle the the core issues uh around our tenants so the 1. n88 uh", "start": 29300.08, "end": 29308.92}, {"text": "million is uh for social support and in particular with a focus", "start": 29308.92, "end": 29315.84}, {"text": "on the 33 vulnerable communities uh and the ones uh with gun violence but is there", "start": 29315.84, "end": 29324.2}, {"text": "also a budget allocation for 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and not identifying where um where housing", "start": 29450.558, "end": 29456.52}, {"text": "developments might move move between those categories for example um so we celebrate it when when when a community", "start": 29456.52, "end": 29462.08}, {"text": "moves down from our categories and moves into to a more stable state but we also identify when when communities move up", "start": 29462.08, "end": 29468.92}, {"text": "and require additional Investments so even so in my neighborhood it may seem like a very quiet neighborhood um but I", "start": 29468.92, "end": 29477.08}, {"text": "have been contacted by moms who say their kids are being leared into drug dealing I there was a child that was", "start": 29477.08, "end": 29485.12}, {"text": "missing for a while because he went off and and was then arrested in another", "start": 29485.12, "end": 29490.76}, {"text": "city so these challenges um may not measure uh visibly on", "start": 29490.76, "end": 29497.24}, {"text": "some uh without very proactive data collection uh and working in partnership", "start": 29497.24, "end": 29503.638}, {"text": "with agencies so is there any investment in trying to tie that all together so", "start": 29503.638, "end": 29509.318}, {"text": "that we have a broad view of what agencies are doing what outcomes are and", "start": 29509.318, "end": 29514.6}, {"text": "kind of looking at the overall outcomes of the residents in the communities through the CH there certainly is", "start": 29514.6, "end": 29520.68}, {"text": "there's there's also on the corporate side of things an investment in our data strategy and the way that we work with", "start": 29520.68, "end": 29525.718}, {"text": "Partners to measure exactly that uh and there are also real tenant support Investments made not in high needs", "start": 29525.718, "end": 29531.92}, {"text": "communities as well focused on within our budget on on stronger engagement within our tenant communities and", "start": 29531.92, "end": 29538.52}, {"text": "accessibility supports within many of our communities so many of those are targeting communities well outside of", "start": 29538.52, "end": 29544.04}, {"text": "those High needs support areas so I don't want to although we are prioritizing Investments there I don't want to leave the committee with the", "start": 29544.04, "end": 29550.12}, {"text": "impression that that's the only areas we're investing in if add in our base budget we do have a um investment in", "start": 29550.12, "end": 29558.12}, {"text": "terms of program and partnership engagement refresh um doing some of data", "start": 29558.12, "end": 29563.878}, {"text": "collection and also analysis and data strategy is one of our the major investment in BS on Capital and and", "start": 29563.878, "end": 29570.52}, {"text": "operating in 2025 we're actually standing up a data strategy and also bi strategy across the organization with", "start": 29570.52, "end": 29577.2}, {"text": "the platform and also analyst to collect the data working very close with partners and in our budget notes we also", "start": 29577.2, "end": 29584.36}, {"text": "have a one page really highlighting the work we're doing at the program partnership front including working with", "start": 29584.36, "end": 29590.36}, {"text": "youth employment Community uh uh Economic Development as well as some of", "start": 29590.36, "end": 29596.638}, {"text": "those crime um crime sort of prevention and uh mitigation strategies great thank", "start": 29596.638, "end": 29603.36}, {"text": "you so much okay uh thank you uh I just have a couple of quick questions um I I", "start": 29603.36, "end": 29610.08}, {"text": "have a million questions uh but I'm going to save those we should have a a sitdown meeting sometime but just uh uh", "start": 29610.08, "end": 29617.68}, {"text": "quickly on uh we see there's a billion dollars now in development Capital here", "start": 29617.68, "end": 29623.2}, {"text": "you have projects that are in flight or or uh scheduled so I'm I'm wondering um", "start": 29623.2, "end": 29629.398}, {"text": "what the trend is uh these days even in even in times when it was cheaper to build there was always a pressure in a", "start": 29629.398, "end": 29636}, {"text": "revitalization project um you know you get to the end and to finish the", "start": 29636, "end": 29641.16}, {"text": "proforma the private developers start saying well we can't afford everything can tchc put in six million or 7 million", "start": 29641.16, "end": 29648.2}, {"text": "or 8 million and I'm wondering where where that trend is now are we under pressure in order to get a project off", "start": 29648.2, "end": 29655.6}, {"text": "the ground and started are we finding ourselves having to put more of our own dollars into those or are we are we be", "start": 29655.6, "end": 29662.04}, {"text": "are we sort of holding firm on that yeah so through the chair you know if you look at our revitalization project", "start": 29662.04, "end": 29667.558}, {"text": "portfolio most of those projects were started quite quite some time ago and and we we tend to operate those projects", "start": 29667.558, "end": 29673.16}, {"text": "under guaranteed uh Provisions within those contracts so I wouldn't say that we are um at at significant risk on any", "start": 29673.16, "end": 29680.36}, {"text": "of those projects um but but on go forward development opportunities we we do we do see fluctuation with the the", "start": 29680.36, "end": 29686.878}, {"text": "local business climate and what sort of uh opportunities developers have elsewhere so certainly we see that and", "start": 29686.878, "end": 29692.2}, {"text": "right now we're seeing favorable opportunities with our development Partners as we go forward with with new uh development projects okay and a", "start": 29692.2, "end": 29699.878}, {"text": "smaller amount of money but probably the most important um the the uh new and", "start": 29699.878, "end": 29705.16}, {"text": "enhanced money going in for uh chronic violence supports is that is that money", "start": 29705.16, "end": 29710.398}, {"text": "that's there to partner with other existing things or are we setting up our own program here how does it interface", "start": 29710.398, "end": 29716.958}, {"text": "with things like um Police Service Focus tables uh Crisis Support Program here at", "start": 29716.958, "end": 29723.638}, {"text": "the uh at the city is it is it partnering with are are having its own", "start": 29723.638, "end": 29729.238}, {"text": "um operation so through the chair we're we're very much present at all of those tables right now today um and and so the", "start": 29729.238, "end": 29736.44}, {"text": "the new Investments that you see in here are are enhancing the level of on the ground support that we can provide", "start": 29736.44, "end": 29742.44}, {"text": "within our communities both in terms of Staffing that can be present to help convene and ensure agency presence and", "start": 29742.44, "end": 29750.44}, {"text": "City presence in some of our buildings but also in capital that's needed to um", "start": 29750.44, "end": 29755.76}, {"text": "make investments in lighting and entryway and Camera Serv systems and whatnot so when we look at U Community", "start": 29755.76, "end": 29762.52}, {"text": "safety and violence reduction it's really both in the Staffing to be present at those tables and present in", "start": 29762.52, "end": 29768.16}, {"text": "our communities and then the capital Investments to improve uh those specific communities okay um and I probably going", "start": 29768.16, "end": 29775.52}, {"text": "to ask the the the same question of uh of the seniors Corporation in terms of", "start": 29775.52, "end": 29781.52}, {"text": "the uh of the the division now between the two is that is that sitting with the", "start": 29781.52, "end": 29787.878}, {"text": "uh the community do they understand now that that we're really trying to specialize and run the two separate", "start": 29787.878, "end": 29793.398}, {"text": "areas or are we still sort of having to familiarize people as they enter the", "start": 29793.398, "end": 29798.478}, {"text": "housing list that that uh that there are these two uh more distinct entities than", "start": 29798.478, "end": 29803.6}, {"text": "in the past I mean through the chair you know our experiences with our tenants directly within our buildings so I would", "start": 29803.6, "end": 29808.958}, {"text": "say they have a very clear understanding of their relationship with us yeah I I suspect that there is some education", "start": 29808.958, "end": 29814.2}, {"text": "that probably has to happen um when folks enter the waiting list or when they reach the top of the waiting list and have to be brought into the system", "start": 29814.2, "end": 29820.52}, {"text": "as to which entity they would then create uh move into and create a relationship with um but that you know", "start": 29820.52, "end": 29827.04}, {"text": "the the back office machinations between tchc and Toronto seniors I don't think are too important to most of our tenants", "start": 29827.04, "end": 29833.76}, {"text": "or to the tenants at Toronto seniors you know they see a strong the front facing operations are quite clear and distinct", "start": 29833.76, "end": 29840}, {"text": "uh and that's the experience that I think most of our tenants have okay um and as I've said we we should meet", "start": 29840, "end": 29845.76}, {"text": "sometime because uh oh and I had I had one other one and it was about Capital Management um uh robust plan but I've", "start": 29845.76, "end": 29855.68}, {"text": "had the experience on the ground uh a couple a a project in my own W spare", "start": 29855.68, "end": 29861.68}, {"text": "ways there was sort of fits and starts to doing that retrofit uh program but", "start": 29861.68, "end": 29866.958}, {"text": "then another and another complex that I happen to go to on a regular Bas it's not in my w at all it's 3941 Lawrence", "start": 29866.958, "end": 29874.318}, {"text": "Avenue East way out in it's in councel Angy word I think they started a uh", "start": 29874.318, "end": 29880.52}, {"text": "state of good repair program replacing the balconies Windows uh uh thermal", "start": 29880.52, "end": 29885.718}, {"text": "siding Etc and it has tended to have a flurry of activity for about a year and", "start": 29885.718, "end": 29891.68}, {"text": "a half now there a flurry of activity then nothing for a long time with the", "start": 29891.68, "end": 29897.08}, {"text": "work sort of half done but nothing happening for months at a time then", "start": 29897.08, "end": 29902.2}, {"text": "another flurry of activity and then it stops again so I'm wondering what's the", "start": 29902.2, "end": 29907.478}, {"text": "Capital Management the actual project management strategy or even if it is a", "start": 29907.478, "end": 29913.84}, {"text": "if it's a contract issue or something some form of communication to the residents of what's going on is that", "start": 29913.84, "end": 29920.558}, {"text": "being worked on so so through the chair I would say that we have a what I would describe as a very robust Capital", "start": 29920.558, "end": 29926.44}, {"text": "planning uh approach uh so you know as I mentioned before many of our buildings are in poor critical condition there are", "start": 29926.44, "end": 29933.12}, {"text": "not just one but often numerous uh capital investment requirements when you look at a particular building so when an", "start": 29933.12, "end": 29938.558}, {"text": "opportunity Rises to the top of the priority list one of the first things we do is go back to the the the budget and", "start": 29938.558, "end": 29944.68}, {"text": "the plan and say well what are all the things that we can get done when we go and do work in that building we don't want to just just go out for tender and", "start": 29944.68, "end": 29950.398}, {"text": "do one thing we might want to do three or four things um so so it is it is quite typical I would say that tenants", "start": 29950.398, "end": 29956.76}, {"text": "would experience prolonged uh activity as we go forward with capital renewal within their buildings now I don't know", "start": 29956.76, "end": 29962.478}, {"text": "the specifics of that that one development that you talked about but I can look into that um we we also have a", "start": 29962.478, "end": 29967.92}, {"text": "dedicated team within our facilities management folks um that are on the ground and doing work directly with", "start": 29967.92, "end": 29973.478}, {"text": "tenants so when there's significant efforts underway and they're going to last a long time we actually have folks that we fly in directly to those", "start": 29973.478, "end": 29980.08}, {"text": "developments and and talk with tenant leaders and make sure that people are well informed now I can't I I can't", "start": 29980.08, "end": 29985.318}, {"text": "promise you that Communications are perfect there there are times that I hear that someone didn't know that something was going on or we didn't", "start": 29985.318, "end": 29990.798}, {"text": "communicate well about something and we understand that and always try to work on making that better but I but I can assure you that we have a a robust uh", "start": 29990.798, "end": 29998.04}, {"text": "team that works on the capital planning and what's appropriate to do when we make those Investments as well as the", "start": 29998.04, "end": 30003.36}, {"text": "communication that's appropriate to do on the ground okay okay excellent thank you um I think that's it for tchc", "start": 30003.36, "end": 30011.478}, {"text": "questions do have questions for Toronto seniors uh Corporation are there any I just I just", "start": 30011.478, "end": 30018.12}, {"text": "want to ask one and I uh uh Tom I I can ask you from there so so that we get on to the moving of the motion and it's", "start": 30018.12, "end": 30025.478}, {"text": "it's that piece are are people becoming more aware of this so that they know when they go into the housing list that", "start": 30025.478, "end": 30032}, {"text": "they're they're sort of entering into a new Corporation and they should be you know", "start": 30032, "end": 30037.28}, {"text": "prioritizing uh selection of the senior's housing corporation uh", "start": 30037.28, "end": 30042.318}, {"text": "facilities we're finding we still have to walk people through that who say should I be on the housing list I'm", "start": 30042.318, "end": 30047.878}, {"text": "worried about when I retire and they we we have to we have to tell them that there is such a thing as seniors", "start": 30047.878, "end": 30054.16}, {"text": "buildings within yeah yes uh through the to the chair so just remembering that", "start": 30054.16, "end": 30060.44}, {"text": "when people are applying um you know on the weight list it is to a particular building right and so it maybe at that", "start": 30060.44, "end": 30066.12}, {"text": "point that they learn about uh it's it's specifically a Toronto seniors or seniors Focus building but that would be", "start": 30066.12, "end": 30071.558}, {"text": "identified as part of that uh as part of that process and I would I would just like to say from our you know from the", "start": 30071.558, "end": 30078.6}, {"text": "uh Inception in June of 2022 until now even just going you know in in the buildings and speaking to tenants or", "start": 30078.6, "end": 30085.68}, {"text": "from our we have our stack or senior tenant advisory committee or our regional meetings or at the buildings", "start": 30085.68, "end": 30091.36}, {"text": "there is certainly more of a familiarity now around Toronto seniors at its mandate what we're trying to deliver so", "start": 30091.36, "end": 30097.92}, {"text": "there is you know there there's always that learning at the point of application but I would have to say that once they are in the buildings that that", "start": 30097.92, "end": 30105.04}, {"text": "information that knowledge what we want to work towards for them is definitely being messaged strongly okay excellent", "start": 30105.04, "end": 30111.28}, {"text": "excellent um are there any if there are any other questions okay I just have Council Morley and then uh uh and then", "start": 30111.28, "end": 30119.398}, {"text": "we have to quickly uh uh put a motion uh forward uh for the rest of the for the", "start": 30119.398, "end": 30124.76}, {"text": "briefing notes thus far I'm I'm about to lose my vice chair", "start": 30124.76, "end": 30130.44}, {"text": "go ahead yeah no no worries Madam chair I know you have a tight timeline as well um I just wanted to pull the thread", "start": 30130.44, "end": 30136.318}, {"text": "around the community safety question at tshc specifically um we know and again I", "start": 30136.318, "end": 30143.238}, {"text": "won't give you the anecdotes uh We've chatted directly and uh we do continue to understand that there are some", "start": 30143.238, "end": 30149.2}, {"text": "concerns um around safety in some of the the seniors housing buildings I'm", "start": 30149.2, "end": 30155.68}, {"text": "wondering what investments we're seeing in this uh 25 proposal to address uh", "start": 30155.68, "end": 30161.08}, {"text": "those challenges uh through the chair so first of all just uh around kind of about the", "start": 30161.08, "end": 30168.08}, {"text": "uh I would just like say around the safety and reflecting on our tenant satisfaction our tenant engagement", "start": 30168.08, "end": 30174.08}, {"text": "survey where we did have 80 84 4% of our tenants felt that they were safe in", "start": 30174.08, "end": 30179.28}, {"text": "their housing so I think that's an important an important starting place for the work that we're doing we also uh", "start": 30179.28, "end": 30185.718}, {"text": "in 2023 did quality improvement project specifically with our staff and tenants", "start": 30185.718, "end": 30191.28}, {"text": "and other partners around around Safety and Security in the buildings as kind of anecdotally sta uh tenants were sharing", "start": 30191.28, "end": 30197.398}, {"text": "with us um on that concern so I think to your point it is a really and and Sean was also speaking to this about the", "start": 30197.398, "end": 30203.878}, {"text": "importance of that Community safety plan and and much of what we saw out of the", "start": 30203.878, "end": 30210}, {"text": "quality improvement projects is that tenants and our staff want to us approach this from various perspectives", "start": 30210, "end": 30216}, {"text": "right so there is the support that we get through the CSU with Toronto Community Housing there's that element", "start": 30216, "end": 30221.92}, {"text": "of it with the with the constables and their presence or whether it's with the third party our third party coverage in", "start": 30221.92, "end": 30227.76}, {"text": "the buildings so that is something that we need to it's not so much in the budget but as we look at our operations", "start": 30227.76, "end": 30233.718}, {"text": "our strategy operations for this year and upcoming it's where where do we for example need to prioritize that third", "start": 30233.718, "end": 30239.398}, {"text": "party coverage as it reflected in the data around High incidents and trespassing into those buildings so", "start": 30239.398, "end": 30245.6}, {"text": "there's that part of it that we have to work on as well and I and I would also suggest that and what tenants were", "start": 30245.6, "end": 30251.638}, {"text": "sharing with us is that element of Engagement and uh tenant engagement how that contributes to a sense of safety in", "start": 30251.638, "end": 30257.878}, {"text": "the building being part of your community and part of the uh support that we're looking for in this budget", "start": 30257.878, "end": 30263.6}, {"text": "around the community services coordinators is more about those Partners those support supporting", "start": 30263.6, "end": 30269.12}, {"text": "tenants in their activities supporting the tenants in the engagement how we how we can work with our partners so those", "start": 30269.12, "end": 30274.6}, {"text": "are all are all elements of that ask that will help not indirectly but we are", "start": 30274.6, "end": 30279.68}, {"text": "optimistic to help uh that safety environment within the buildings thanks so much Tom I'll leave it there thanks", "start": 30279.68, "end": 30285.318}, {"text": "Madam chair okay thank you uh if we just all we have to oh here's councelor changen", "start": 30285.318, "end": 30292.04}, {"text": "so if you have to uh leave your town hall Mr Vice chair I think I'm okay um", "start": 30292.04, "end": 30298.68}, {"text": "uh all we have left to do before we recess this marathon is uh uh the", "start": 30298.68, "end": 30304.28}, {"text": "briefing note request for for the the uh uh divisions thus far all that I have", "start": 30304.28, "end": 30310.318}, {"text": "are are briefing notes from councelor mckel so I'm thinking why don't we just have the motion moved in your name and", "start": 30310.318, "end": 30316.44}, {"text": "then if staff have any questions about what it is you're looking for they're pretty they're pretty clear but if they do then they'll they'll know who to call", "start": 30316.44, "end": 30324.2}, {"text": "first thank you they're either repeats of last year or they have been reviewed by staff so the first one is requesting", "start": 30324.2, "end": 30332.68}, {"text": "a briefing note on the money that the city of tono continues to spend on services that are extensions of", "start": 30332.68, "end": 30338.12}, {"text": "provincial and respon provincial and federal responsibilities uh the second is a request of the general manager Economic", "start": 30338.12, "end": 30344.718}, {"text": "Development around the resources that are being uh dedicated towards the green", "start": 30344.718, "end": 30350.04}, {"text": "economy the third is the same as last year every year I passed the same one", "start": 30350.04, "end": 30355.92}, {"text": "about the investments in indoor and outdoor recreation for skating Cricket in wi", "start": 30355.92, "end": 30361.36}, {"text": "arise washrooms and we did say that through The Gardener Expressway um reprioritization should", "start": 30361.36, "end": 30368.36}, {"text": "there be any additional funds on Parks to to look at those opportunities so did they find any the fourth is a briefing", "start": 30368.36, "end": 30375.12}, {"text": "note the staff already prepared a briefing note everybody should read it because it's wonderful on the Ravine and", "start": 30375.12, "end": 30380.28}, {"text": "meaway investment so this is just asking uh for the collaboration with the Toronto nature St steuarts and what", "start": 30380.28, "end": 30386.28}, {"text": "could be done to enance enhance that collaboration because it is volunteers that we have outworking so um enabling", "start": 30386.28, "end": 30392}, {"text": "them is great because that's less money we need spend when we have volunteers doing it uh five request um pfnr to", "start": 30392, "end": 30399.718}, {"text": "provide a briefing note sorry uh sdfa uh to provide a briefing note on programs and funding for food security including", "start": 30399.718, "end": 30406.878}, {"text": "but notlimited to food banks and Community Gardens they have reviewed that and six uh I ask for this one every", "start": 30406.878, "end": 30413.318}, {"text": "year uh Transit expansion office to provide a list of the number of full-time equivalents working within", "start": 30413.318, "end": 30418.76}, {"text": "each of the the transit projects in their office okay uh and I just want to point", "start": 30418.76, "end": 30425.718}, {"text": "out because I I I check to make sure in case people start adding to the list uh", "start": 30425.718, "end": 30431.12}, {"text": "the the motion about uh uh dispositioning for us those priorities in parks that that are are uh possible", "start": 30431.12, "end": 30438.558}, {"text": "out of the gardener allocation we already agreed to that list in that when the report on the The Gardener", "start": 30438.558, "end": 30445.2}, {"text": "reallocation came forward in Council uh they were highlighted then and and adopted by Council in a motion so you've", "start": 30445.2, "end": 30452.16}, {"text": "kept to those areas uh uh so it's a it's a um you know an agreed upon by Council", "start": 30452.16, "end": 30459.04}, {"text": "uh shopping list shall we say okay okay um uh Council perks had to go", "start": 30459.04, "end": 30466}, {"text": "all in favor of uh um uh adding that to the list and that is deferred to wrap up", "start": 30466, "end": 30473.478}, {"text": "to be yeah", "start": 30473.478, "end": 30477.718}, {"text": "right right we'll do all the deferrals on Friday okay so yes yes you can uh if they're not in", "start": 30481.718, "end": 30489.16}, {"text": "the analyst notes their information you need then absolutely um uh motion to uh", "start": 30489.16, "end": 30494.238}, {"text": "we're doing recess all right oh sorry I thought we have but I", "start": 30494.238, "end": 30499.478}, {"text": "didn't say I didn't say uh uh um uh all in favor opposed all in favor of the", "start": 30499.478, "end": 30504.76}, {"text": "briefing note being added to the list pose that's carried there you go and we're", "start": 30504.76, "end": 30509.84}, {"text": "recessing yes", "start": 30509.84, "end": 30513.558}, {"text": "okay", "start": 30535.04, "end": 30538.04}, {"text": "e", "start": 30565.04, "end": 30568.04}, {"text": "e e", "start": 30594.958, "end": 30598.958}]
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