[{"text": "e e", "start": 28.96, "end": 32.96}, {"text": "all right good evening everyone uh the Grimsby Heritage advisory committee is is now uh in order we'll begin with a", "start": 85.64, "end": 94.079}, {"text": "land acknowledgement Grimsby is situated on treaty land this land is steeped in the", "start": 94.079, "end": 100.92}, {"text": "rich history of the First Nations such as The hunder Rock the had and the", "start": 100.92, "end": 106.399}, {"text": "anishnabe including the Mis sagas of the Credit First Nation there are many First", "start": 106.399, "end": 111.68}, {"text": "Nations matei and Inuit people from across Turtle Island that work and live", "start": 111.68, "end": 117.399}, {"text": "in Niagara today the regional municip ality of Niagara and grimby stand with", "start": 117.399, "end": 122.64}, {"text": "all indigenous people past and present in promoting the wise stewardship of the", "start": 122.64, "end": 127.92}, {"text": "lands on which we", "start": 127.92, "end": 131.28}, {"text": "live are there any disclosures of pecary Interest tonight okay we'll move forward then to", "start": 132.959, "end": 141.64}, {"text": "the approval of the agenda uh and a reminder that going forward with the", "start": 141.64, "end": 147}, {"text": "resolutions I'll need a mover and a seconder so for the approval of the agenda do I have someone to to move it", "start": 147, "end": 155.28}, {"text": "thank you counselor Changi and the", "start": 155.28, "end": 160.76}, {"text": "seconder counselor deflavio uh all in favor that's great", "start": 160.76, "end": 167.879}, {"text": "and carried thank", "start": 167.879, "end": 171}, {"text": "you and then moving forward to uh the receipt of previous minutes uh for", "start": 174.64, "end": 182}, {"text": "September the 16th 2024 can I have a", "start": 182, "end": 187.239}, {"text": "mover Brian and the seconder wonderful that's Amy all in", "start": 187.239, "end": 194.84}, {"text": "favor that's great thank you and", "start": 194.84, "end": 199.28}, {"text": "carried okay moving forward with the agenda we have a verbal update uh for", "start": 204.48, "end": 209.56}, {"text": "our working group I will be delivering that update so let me just grab it on my", "start": 209.56, "end": 215.439}, {"text": "screen", "start": 215.439, "end": 217.92}, {"text": "here okay uh so in uh this week or this month's agenda we put forward our", "start": 225.36, "end": 232.879}, {"text": "project plan for our education and Outreach working group uh as a reminder", "start": 232.879, "end": 238.64}, {"text": "this is our her Grimsby mapping project uh that we're working on um with the", "start": 238.64, "end": 244.319}, {"text": "Grimsby Museum as well as U Nell's Manor and the the gby Historical", "start": 244.319, "end": 250.519}, {"text": "Society I the outline or the the plan outlines objectives deliverables and a", "start": 250.519, "end": 256.44}, {"text": "timeline through to the end of 2025 and 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"highlighting uh the cultural and built heritages of Grimsby and getting you know not just the community but visitors", "start": 306.28, "end": 312.039}, {"text": "also excited and interested in all the Heritage we have to offer uh so does anyone have any comment or questions", "start": 312.039, "end": 318.56}, {"text": "regarding the plan um I'm happy to answer anything", "start": 318.56, "end": 324.159}, {"text": "all right uh so next steps for uh for the project will be to actually uh come", "start": 330.319, "end": 336.84}, {"text": "up with our comprehensive list or inventory of all of the cultural and Heritage assets so this again includes", "start": 336.84, "end": 343.36}, {"text": "not just the designated buildings in town uh but also landmarks public art", "start": 343.36, "end": 350.36}, {"text": "murals around town even our Bell boxes that that have just like get updated you know over the last couple years um so", "start": 350.36, "end": 357.88}, {"text": "having a good 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there's a resolution here resolve that the verbal update regarding the working group be received", "start": 403.759, "end": 410.599}, {"text": "I'll ask for a mover uh counselor cangi great and a seconder Brian awesome", "start": 410.599, "end": 419.68}, {"text": "all in favor okay that's great and", "start": 419.68, "end": 424.4}, {"text": "carried okay we have two reports for uh the committee meeting tonight and the", "start": 429.24, "end": 436.08}, {"text": "first is uh Heritage Property Grant recommendations and this report will be", "start": 436.08, "end": 441.4}, {"text": "delivered by Bianca so go ahead thank you good evening everyone um", "start": 441.4, "end": 447.639}, {"text": "through you the chair I'm just going to give Garrett a second to get the might need to give me", "start": 447.639, "end": 454.479}, {"text": "appr sorry just one second", "start": 454.479, "end": 459.28}, {"text": "thank you um so um I have a summary of um quickly of the program and then um", "start": 480.759, "end": 487.199}, {"text": "I'll give uh the recommendations from the selection committee um so during the", "start": 487.199, "end": 493}, {"text": "2024 budget deliberation process Council uh approved the cont um approved $20,000", "start": 493, "end": 500.56}, {"text": "towards the uh Grant programm", "start": 500.56, "end": 505.52}, {"text": "sorry about that we had some technical difficulties um so during the 2024", "start": 516.76, "end": 522}, {"text": "budget deliberation process Council allocated $2,000 towards the", "start": 522, "end": 527.76}, {"text": "establishment of a new grant program um and in um August of", "start": 527.76, "end": 537}, {"text": "2024 uh we brought forward um the final report implementing the program and", "start": 537, "end": 543.32}, {"text": "establishing the criteria and we were able to officially intake applications on September 19th", "start": 543.32, "end": 550.8}, {"text": "2024 uh those applications were due back on October 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"West they'll be repairing sections of their W um of their ports that have rotted um they'll be repairing uh rotten", "start": 702.079, "end": 709.76}, {"text": "sections of their fascia boards and East returns and then they'll be having their slate roof uh inspected and we'll be", "start": 709.76, "end": 717.639}, {"text": "repainting all of the repaired areas and then the final um recommended for", "start": 717.639, "end": 723.32}, {"text": "approval at the 2,000 level is 99 Main Street West this is the seamstress", "start": 723.32, "end": 729.079}, {"text": "Cottage they'll be replacing um the missing wood porch columns and porch ceiling they'll be repairing the porch", "start": 729.079, "end": 736.92}, {"text": "uh beam and they'll be repainting um the repaired areas and the shutters", "start": 736.92, "end": 744.279}, {"text": "next slide please um and then these are the three applications that are being recommended", "start": 744.279, "end": 750.12}, {"text": "at the $4,000 amount we felt all of these um warranted um funding due to the", "start": 750.12, "end": 758.6}, {"text": "immediacy of the repairs and the importance of not losing original elements um so the first is 104 Main", "start": 758.6, "end": 765.24}, {"text": "Street West oh sorry Main Street East um they'll be repairing the rotten sections of their wooden fascia board and sofits", "start": 765.24, "end": 772.959}, {"text": "uh they'll be repairing their wooden canopy above the front doors and they'll be repainting the repairs uh 37 in Main", "start": 772.959, "end": 779.56}, {"text": "Street West um this is harmony Jewelers um they'll be Excavating and waterproofing along the East wall of the", "start": 779.56, "end": 786.399}, {"text": "building to prevent any uh further water infiltration um it's quite a large", "start": 786.399, "end": 792.72}, {"text": "project um but that's a summary of some of the works there um and then 8 to 10 Ontario Street they'll be repairing and", "start": 792.72, "end": 800.48}, {"text": "replacing um the italianate exterior woodwork um that was damaged and they'll", "start": 800.48, "end": 806.399}, {"text": "be repointing uh masonry throut and and they're also going to be um fixing some", "start": 806.399, "end": 812.639}, {"text": "large um there was some like golf-sized holes in the back wall that they're", "start": 812.639, "end": 818.36}, {"text": "going to be sourcing some original brick for um and it's uh a lot of like water", "start": 818.36, "end": 824.32}, {"text": "damage in that particular one um so the applications submitted were graded", "start": 824.32, "end": 829.639}, {"text": "against the established Grant criteria many of the proposed Works will address structural concerns and prevent the", "start": 829.639, "end": 836.44}, {"text": "further loss of original elements um um and so um the two sorry the four grants", "start": 836.44, "end": 843.44}, {"text": "at 2,000 and the three grants at 4,000 is the recommendation from the selection", "start": 843.44, "end": 849.079}, {"text": "committee thank", "start": 849.079, "end": 852.279}, {"text": "you uh thank you for your report Bianca any questions or comments from the", "start": 855.759, "end": 862.8}, {"text": "committee I yes councelor chrisan you go ahead thank you three chair I just had a question um", "start": 862.8, "end": 869.839}, {"text": "because I'm I'm not sure if we talked about this or I I know that the Nels Manor is getting the community Grant", "start": 869.839, "end": 876.399}, {"text": "fund for about 15,000 but they're also on this one um I didn't know if they", "start": 876.399, "end": 882.48}, {"text": "could do both or we were going to do um I'm I wasn't sure how that worked so um", "start": 882.48, "end": 888.92}, {"text": "were we aware of that or and that's okay", "start": 888.92, "end": 894.079}, {"text": "or thank you uh through the chair um so the eligibility criteria for the grant", "start": 894.079, "end": 901.399}, {"text": "didn't have any you couldn't apply for other um municipally ran grants um and I", "start": 901.399, "end": 907.519}, {"text": "think for what they were applying for was very suitable for the um the um", "start": 907.519, "end": 912.92}, {"text": "Heritage restoration Grant um but that's probably something I don't know if Council wants to talk about but um", "start": 912.92, "end": 920.199}, {"text": "that's kind of where we were at with that one um I also wouldn't want to add I", "start": 920.199, "end": 927.56}, {"text": "think the community Grant was for a different project I think the project was for the roof right so I wonder if", "start": 927.56, "end": 932.92}, {"text": "that could be something that we consider to two different projects but definitely good to note and that may be something", "start": 932.92, "end": 938.759}, {"text": "we add into the criteria if needed uh I will say uh it was really great to see", "start": 938.759, "end": 944.48}, {"text": "that there was 10 like 10 properties applied and to see a mix of nonprofit", "start": 944.48, "end": 950.199}, {"text": "some business as well as private properties too so it was nice to see um that you know a diverse range of", "start": 950.199, "end": 957}, {"text": "property owners were were applying for the but yeah that's that's a good thing to to note and yeah I do wonder if we if we", "start": 957, "end": 963.319}, {"text": "consider it if if it's like one of those um you know yeah the criteria or point", "start": 963.319, "end": 968.44}, {"text": "system or something um any any other questions I yes mayor Jordan go ahead thank you", "start": 968.44, "end": 975.399}, {"text": "through you to staff I just want to commend staff for the turnaround on this grant program and and it's certainly a", "start": 975.399, "end": 982.48}, {"text": "start and I I think given the fact that that um Heritage is such a big part of", "start": 982.48, "end": 989.839}, {"text": "Grimsby uh it is nice that that um the municipality is kind of putting where", "start": 989.839, "end": 995.519}, {"text": "their money where their mouth is I know it's it's it's only $20,000 to start but", "start": 995.519, "end": 1000.88}, {"text": "every little bit helps uh and and I think um a lot of it's an olive branch", "start": 1000.88, "end": 1006.56}, {"text": "um just uh telling um Heritage Property Owners and even people that didn't apply", "start": 1006.56, "end": 1013.279}, {"text": "for a grant just that that we we there and and we realize that um Our Heritage", "start": 1013.279, "end": 1019.92}, {"text": "component in grimby is such a large um and important aspect of our community in", "start": 1019.92, "end": 1026.558}, {"text": "the fabric of our community uh thank you for your comment", "start": 1026.559, "end": 1032.839}, {"text": "mayor J Jordan and I definitely Echo it and I think having 10 applicants is already proof that you know there's need", "start": 1032.839, "end": 1039.678}, {"text": "for this there's interest in this uh and hopefully that means that the program will continue and perhaps even grow as", "start": 1039.679, "end": 1046.24}, {"text": "as there's more interest and as we see those benefits in the community so yes thank you for your work on this", "start": 1046.24, "end": 1051.84}, {"text": "yes Council deflavio go ahead thank you chair uh I just I wanted", "start": 1051.84, "end": 1058.08}, {"text": "to Echo the the statements of other members uh any investment we make in", "start": 1058.08, "end": 1063.6}, {"text": "Heritage is an investment in the community uh and in my previous experience the", "start": 1063.6, "end": 1071.24}, {"text": "Investments that we've made in uh facade Improvement programs and other Grant programs have paid off multiple times", "start": 1071.24, "end": 1079.08}, {"text": "over uh the amount of money that gets invested in these properties compared to", "start": 1079.08, "end": 1084.159}, {"text": "what we're putting into them it's not even comparable so we're it's showing", "start": 1084.159, "end": 1090.48}, {"text": "that Grimsby wants to have some skin in the game uh it it shows that we're serious about Heritage but", "start": 1090.48, "end": 1097.84}, {"text": "also we want to celebrate the people who do these things so I'm looking forward to a year from", "start": 1097.84, "end": 1104.24}, {"text": "now when these jobs are completed where we can go and say that looks incredible", "start": 1104.24, "end": 1109.36}, {"text": "we're we're really happy with the way it turned out and we can use those as examples for other people to come", "start": 1109.36, "end": 1114.799}, {"text": "forward and role model because what you want is you want it to be uh you know", "start": 1114.799, "end": 1120.559}, {"text": "the 10 applications or 12 applications becomes 20 where it was already", "start": 1120.559, "end": 1125.64}, {"text": "difficult this year to make a decision I want to make it impossible for the committee to make a decision because", "start": 1125.64, "end": 1132.76}, {"text": "there are so many people applying for it and frankly get to a point where we can increase the amount of money that we put", "start": 1132.76, "end": 1139.12}, {"text": "into it because we see the need to increase the amount of money that we put into it as a municipality so I think", "start": 1139.12, "end": 1144.72}, {"text": "we're at a good place to start but I think we we've got to go up from here based on the results of what what we see", "start": 1144.72, "end": 1150.039}, {"text": "happening this year thanks chair thank you very much any any other", "start": 1150.039, "end": 1156.159}, {"text": "comments or questions yes Brian go ahead through you chair uh so first time", "start": 1156.159, "end": 1161.52}, {"text": "through this any learnings anything you saw in either the process the form anything that you took away and said I", "start": 1161.52, "end": 1168.24}, {"text": "think we could TW tweak this I mean it was really well thought out but anytime you throw the switch and go live um just curious to know if there's anything you", "start": 1168.24, "end": 1174.08}, {"text": "took away of uh maybe we do this differently or adjust it for the next round through the chair um I do have a", "start": 1174.08, "end": 1181.559}, {"text": "couple already um it's always great to go through it because you really start to see them um one of the things we we", "start": 1181.559, "end": 1188.559}, {"text": "talked about doing was not having um them obtain the uh in the uh quotes", "start": 1188.559, "end": 1195.2}, {"text": "before uh intake um but I think in spect they probably would be helpful so um I", "start": 1195.2, "end": 1201.799}, {"text": "think that's something we will likely add to the criteria that they have to obtain quotes I think it just helps us make our decisions and um you know the", "start": 1201.799, "end": 1210.08}, {"text": "most use of the funding um and then the the other one I was going to mention um", "start": 1210.08, "end": 1216.799}, {"text": "what just escaped me um I should have wrote it", "start": 1216.799, "end": 1222.4}, {"text": "down I do have the list of this on my desk but that was one of the ones uh there was another one I was going to", "start": 1222.4, "end": 1228.12}, {"text": "just mention but I just forgot about I don't know if you remember uh thanks Bianca to Flavia do", "start": 1228.12, "end": 1235.799}, {"text": "you have any yeah having been part of the the committee um I think sending it", "start": 1235.799, "end": 1240.88}, {"text": "out to the committee ahead of time so that people can have a look at the applications because we were looking at them fresh that night uh would give us a", "start": 1240.88, "end": 1249.48}, {"text": "chance to kind of weigh them out you know in the way that as a teacher I look at all of the exams or all of the tests", "start": 1249.48, "end": 1257.84}, {"text": "so I get a uh kind of an idea of where everybody is before I start to grade um I think that", "start": 1257.84, "end": 1265.919}, {"text": "that would be a good thing to do with these types of applications as well so you kind of do a survey of everything", "start": 1265.919, "end": 1272.88}, {"text": "and then come back and start grading and further to that I would say that a a a", "start": 1272.88, "end": 1278.799}, {"text": "clearer rubric for evaluation I mean I was very comfortable with what we came up with and I think our discussion was", "start": 1278.799, "end": 1285.6}, {"text": "very important all the things that happened but uh a very a clear rubric that you know indicates specifically", "start": 1285.6, "end": 1292.2}, {"text": "what we're looking for and how we reach that score for each of them so that", "start": 1292.2, "end": 1297.6}, {"text": "there's although you know even without that all of our scores were very similar for all of the applications like within", "start": 1297.6, "end": 1304.559}, {"text": "one or two really on a scale of 20 so that's pretty good uh but I think that", "start": 1304.559, "end": 1311.08}, {"text": "even even clearer criteria so we could tell the people who are making the applications this is what we're looking", "start": 1311.08, "end": 1316.52}, {"text": "for uh and that way they know that their application will they people should kind of know going", "start": 1316.52, "end": 1323.72}, {"text": "in if their application's going to be successful you know uh having been on", "start": 1323.72, "end": 1328.76}, {"text": "the trillian review team I I saw some applications where those people clearly knew that that was not going to", "start": 1328.76, "end": 1334.679}, {"text": "be a successful application unless there was not a lot of people applying uh and I think if people know what they're what", "start": 1334.679, "end": 1341.64}, {"text": "we're looking for very clearly we're going to get better applications so I", "start": 1341.64, "end": 1346.919}, {"text": "that's those are the couple of things so getting it out ahead of time and a really clear definition of of what we're", "start": 1346.919, "end": 1353.44}, {"text": "looking for are two things that I think would be important as we go", "start": 1353.44, "end": 1358.919}, {"text": "forward through the chair I just remembered mine um we were also considering having an earlier intake so", "start": 1359.72, "end": 1366.039}, {"text": "instead of doing it in the fall we were thinking we would do it more like in the spring so that there was like a longer", "start": 1366.039, "end": 1372.72}, {"text": "work time for them to complete it so that was just one thing we're thinking of doing for next year", "start": 1372.72, "end": 1380.08}, {"text": "that's great thank you for sharing your your experience and thank you for for that great question Brian uh looking", "start": 1381.44, "end": 1387.44}, {"text": "forward to uh yeah to to seeing this move forward and to seeing how the the grant program grows that's great any any", "start": 1387.44, "end": 1394.6}, {"text": "other questions before we move on all right uh resolution here then uh that uh", "start": 1394.6, "end": 1401}, {"text": "report to HR 2417 dated November 12th 2024 regarding the Heritage Property", "start": 1401, "end": 1406.919}, {"text": "Grant recommendations be receiv received and that the Grimsby Heritage advisory committee recommends that the 2024", "start": 1406.919, "end": 1414.2}, {"text": "Heritage Property grant funding applicants selected by the grant selection committee be approved and that", "start": 1414.2, "end": 1420.159}, {"text": "the approved applicants enter into grant agreements with the town do I have a", "start": 1420.159, "end": 1426.12}, {"text": "mover Amy great an a seconder counc", "start": 1426.12, "end": 1433.96}, {"text": "deflavio all in favor and that's carried great", "start": 1434.24, "end": 1441.08}, {"text": "awesome all right next up in our reports is a Heritage permit report for two fth", "start": 1442.6, "end": 1449.24}, {"text": "Street and this will be presented by Garrett go", "start": 1449.24, "end": 1454.158}, {"text": "ahead thank you through you chair the property at 25th Street is designated", "start": 1458.44, "end": 1463.48}, {"text": "under part four of the Ontario Heritage act and it is located within the Grimsby Beach neighborhood", "start": 1463.48, "end": 1469}, {"text": "the property owners at 25th Street are applying for retroactive approval of the demolition of the garage two wooden", "start": 1469, "end": 1475.48}, {"text": "decks Foundation skirting as well as retroactive approval of the removal of", "start": 1475.48, "end": 1480.6}, {"text": "non-original siding windows and doors from the designated building the Heritage permit is also", "start": 1480.6, "end": 1487.159}, {"text": "requesting further approval of alterations that will allow for the restoration of the building the", "start": 1487.159, "end": 1492.48}, {"text": "requested additional alteration Works include deconstruction and reconstruction of the enclosed porch", "start": 1492.48, "end": 1499.24}, {"text": "uh SL mudro on the Southeast corner of the building and the other sun room that", "start": 1499.24, "end": 1504.559}, {"text": "is facing 25th Street removal of any other modern exterior", "start": 1504.559, "end": 1510.36}, {"text": "materials upgrading the interior structural sorry structural system for", "start": 1510.36, "end": 1516.679}, {"text": "stability stabilize the foundation with helical piles and peers install New", "start": 1516.679, "end": 1521.96}, {"text": "Foundation skirting restoration of the board and batten siding on the exterior walls restor the original Window and", "start": 1521.96, "end": 1529.32}, {"text": "Door openings as they are found stabilize the north porch that is enclosed facing the lake adding a new", "start": 1529.32, "end": 1536.96}, {"text": "glass curtain wall to be installed on the North facades facing the lake on the first and second", "start": 1536.96, "end": 1542.799}, {"text": "floors exposing original porch elements as much as possible during the", "start": 1542.799, "end": 1548.799}, {"text": "restoration uh of the exterior materials staff recommend that the Heritage permit be conditionally", "start": 1548.799, "end": 1554.799}, {"text": "approved subject to the following terms and conditions", "start": 1554.799, "end": 1560.08}, {"text": "so I'll just uh show on the screen there as well so the uh the map on the right", "start": 1560.08, "end": 1565.36}, {"text": "hand side the areas highlighted in red are what has been demolished and then the areas highlighted in green are what", "start": 1565.36, "end": 1572.799}, {"text": "is being requested for further alteration approvals uh and then you can see the cottage before the Demolition", "start": 1572.799, "end": 1579.2}, {"text": "and after the demolition on the left hand side of the 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and due to the small amount of information provided on the Heritage", "start": 1625.52, "end": 1630.96}, {"text": "permit application it is required that all proposed Works be further detailed within the conservation plan and once", "start": 1630.96, "end": 1637.84}, {"text": "the above conditions have been satisfied Heritage staff have the delegated authority to approve any minor removal", "start": 1637.84, "end": 1643.679}, {"text": "of materials that is required due to unforeseen deterioration thank", "start": 1643.679, "end": 1650.799}, {"text": "you thank you for your report Garrett any questions from the committee councelor", "start": 1651.44, "end": 1658.48}, {"text": "deflavio thank you chair through you um so I'm just trying to rewind 25th Street", "start": 1658.559, "end": 1666.6}, {"text": "was the property that we designated um that was asked to be", "start": 1666.6, "end": 1672}, {"text": "removed uh now when the report came forward the designation report came", "start": 1672, "end": 1677.84}, {"text": "forward was there any indication that there was problem", "start": 1677.84, "end": 1683.159}, {"text": "with the with the structure or with the um with the foundation or with", "start": 1683.159, "end": 1688.919}, {"text": "structural stabil", "start": 1688.919, "end": 1691.88}, {"text": "stability uh through the chair so yes this is the one that recently came forward Council um Reverend Burns was", "start": 1695.64, "end": 1703.159}, {"text": "the uh historical figure associated with the house um so the way that that the", "start": 1703.159, "end": 1708.32}, {"text": "Ontario Heritage act works with the Ontario building code um is that the", "start": 1708.32, "end": 1713.679}, {"text": "Heritage act must be followed and so as updates need to be happened and stabilization and things like that the", "start": 1713.679, "end": 1720.08}, {"text": "the ental building code Works alongside the Heritage act so the actual condition of a building um doesn't weigh into the", "start": 1720.08, "end": 1727.32}, {"text": "worthyness of designation so it's not that uh an evaluation of the structure", "start": 1727.32, "end": 1733.08}, {"text": "needed to be conducted prior to pursuing designation um so prior to the design", "start": 1733.08, "end": 1739.2}, {"text": "um I consulted with the with the um Chief Building official um and this has", "start": 1739.2, "end": 1744.44}, {"text": "happened in other scenarios in the town and it's always been the case that the building code supports the restoration", "start": 1744.44, "end": 1750.12}, {"text": "of the buildings um and so if it can be repaired it should be repaired and so that's typically how it works that way", "start": 1750.12, "end": 1756.72}, {"text": "um so as a report wasn't done prior to um designation but it doesn't really in", "start": 1756.72, "end": 1763.12}, {"text": "the eyes of the legislation way into the worthy the Merit for designation if that", "start": 1763.12, "end": 1768.2}, {"text": "explains them yeah that does explain it um so is", "start": 1768.2, "end": 1775.32}, {"text": "the owner on board is it because they're applying to make changes to the structure and we're giving them", "start": 1775.32, "end": 1782.679}, {"text": "permission to make the changes that they need to make to stabilize the structure I'm just trying to understand what would", "start": 1782.679, "end": 1788.76}, {"text": "lead this to come forward at at this time is it that they've found that there are struct we've found that there are", "start": 1788.76, "end": 1795.24}, {"text": "structural issues um and if I miss that in your report I apologize it's I'm just", "start": 1795.24, "end": 1800.799}, {"text": "trying to understand how we get to this point and I want to make sure that we're not putting undue burden on homeowners", "start": 1800.799, "end": 1808.24}, {"text": "by designating their home in a when the home is beyond repair or the kinds of", "start": 1808.24, "end": 1815}, {"text": "repairs that we're asking for are so economically burdensome that we're", "start": 1815, "end": 1821.559}, {"text": "making it impossible for them to maintain the Heritage home there's a lot there so I hope you got what what to ask", "start": 1821.559, "end": 1828.559}, {"text": "uh through the chair so the idea behind the stabilization strategy is that um", "start": 1828.559, "end": 1834.2}, {"text": "they're doing the exploratory work right now to find the original elements of the building and that's because over time a", "start": 1834.2, "end": 1840.36}, {"text": "lot of layers were added but as the layers come off it's going to be like", "start": 1840.36, "end": 1845.399}, {"text": "kind of aggravating the structure so we know that there'll be additional movements that haven't occurred in a", "start": 1845.399, "end": 1851.24}, {"text": "long time on the structure so the idea is that this stabilization strategy will secure the building so we don't have a", "start": 1851.24, "end": 1857.279}, {"text": "collapse as they continue um to do the exploratory work so that's the idea behind it um and the intention of the", "start": 1857.279, "end": 1865.08}, {"text": "property owners is to restore the building they are here tonight if you have any questions about it but that's", "start": 1865.08, "end": 1871.399}, {"text": "the idea behind the stabilization strategy it's that they need to do further exploratory work but we want to", "start": 1871.399, "end": 1877}, {"text": "secure the system is kind of how it works and it'll be working we'll be working alongside the building", "start": 1877, "end": 1884.919}, {"text": "department thanks chair uh just a couple more questions so is there flexibility", "start": 1886.48, "end": 1891.559}, {"text": "with uh how much stabilization work is required um like particularly if certain", "start": 1891.559, "end": 1897.48}, {"text": "elements don't contribute directly to the property's Heritage value uh so you know if", "start": 1897.48, "end": 1903.44}, {"text": "if if something's below ground and uh isn't of you know of particular Heritage", "start": 1903.44, "end": 1911.24}, {"text": "value are we giving you permission to say let's not worry about that let's worry about the structure as a whole", "start": 1911.24, "end": 1916.6}, {"text": "because you know I I think that we kind of know what we want to see as a result", "start": 1916.6, "end": 1921.96}, {"text": "and how we get there uh I'm pretty flexible about so is are is that when it", "start": 1921.96, "end": 1928.799}, {"text": "says to the director for the director of planning is that what we're kind of we're kind of giving leeway to to allow", "start": 1928.799, "end": 1934.679}, {"text": "for that sort of permission to be granted through the chair so because", "start": 1934.679, "end": 1940.12}, {"text": "it's exploratory and it's an evolving process we wanted to have the flexibility for it to be to the", "start": 1940.12, "end": 1945.96}, {"text": "satisfaction of the director of planning so that we can go with them now and work on those elements and continue the", "start": 1945.96, "end": 1951.6}, {"text": "project so they don't have to stop and come back once they find what they need so that's the idea behind having the", "start": 1951.6, "end": 1956.76}, {"text": "conservation plan be completed to the satisfaction of the director of planning and then same with the stabilization so", "start": 1956.76, "end": 1963.679}, {"text": "we'll work with them um but we did purposely with the designation um the way we designed the", "start": 1963.679, "end": 1970.48}, {"text": "bylaw was to allow there to be flexibility to bring these elements back and um yeah a lot of the interior", "start": 1970.48, "end": 1977.84}, {"text": "elements won't be uh require approval from the committee or under the building", "start": 1977.84, "end": 1983.6}, {"text": "will mostly just be working um with them on the general like design of it and of course building will ultimately be the", "start": 1983.6, "end": 1989.76}, {"text": "ones to review that so", "start": 1989.76, "end": 1994.44}, {"text": "yeah thank you for your great questions Council to Flavio any other questions from the", "start": 1996.08, "end": 2001.72}, {"text": "committee yes Brian go ahead through you chair I got a couple", "start": 2001.72, "end": 2006.76}, {"text": "uh first one is I guess I'll give you the first two and I think they're kind of related I'll let you respond to those", "start": 2006.76, "end": 2011.88}, {"text": "ones uh first one is how did the how did the changes come to the attention it's it's retroactive the stuff was done how", "start": 2011.88, "end": 2018}, {"text": "did it get to staff's attention and then related to that one um can you just remind uh me how the the Retro approval", "start": 2018, "end": 2026.12}, {"text": "works the work's obviously already been done but they're asking for approval for work that that didn't have approval initially says can you just Refresh on", "start": 2026.12, "end": 2032.639}, {"text": "sort of what the purpose of doing it retroactively now that it's already been done is", "start": 2032.639, "end": 2039.36}, {"text": "uh through the chair um so for the retroactive approval um", "start": 2043.399, "end": 2049.28}, {"text": "so when you go against the legislation you don't want to continue to go against", "start": 2049.28, "end": 2054.72}, {"text": "the legislation so by us doing these retroactive approval it stops the", "start": 2054.72, "end": 2060.04}, {"text": "process of going against it so now they're they have approvals to do what they're doing rather than not um having", "start": 2060.04, "end": 2067.079}, {"text": "approval from Council to do that because ultimately it's Council who authorizes the alterations of the building so this", "start": 2067.079, "end": 2074}, {"text": "is their way of moving from not being in alignment with the legislation to 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2216.4}, {"text": "twos I guess would the some of those things require further work to be done um like complet L of the application I", "start": 2216.4, "end": 2223.76}, {"text": "think there was another um assessment that needed be done is would there be harm in having those get done first and", "start": 2223.76, "end": 2231.56}, {"text": "then come back to review or is it a timeline thing is there any reason why we would do it like not have those get", "start": 2231.56, "end": 2237.64}, {"text": "rectified and then look at it uh again in completeness um through you the chair so", "start": 2237.64, "end": 2244.48}, {"text": "the idea behind these recommendations was to enable the restoration work to start um and that's just because we can", "start": 2244.48, "end": 2251.04}, {"text": "see the building is quite open and we wanted to work towards the restoration of it rather than having it be", "start": 2251.04, "end": 2257.44}, {"text": "vulnerable um so this kind of gives us time now for them to go out do the work bring it back um and then they have to", "start": 2257.44, "end": 2264.319}, {"text": "complete it to the satisfaction of the director of planning rather than having to come back through the committee cycle", "start": 2264.319, "end": 2270.839}, {"text": "um so the idea is that the building itself will be restored faster based on", "start": 2270.839, "end": 2277.079}, {"text": "this approach um and be like less vulnerable is kind of the idea behind the", "start": 2277.079, "end": 2284.2}, {"text": "recommendation thank you for your questions Brian any other questions or comments from the", "start": 2286.44, "end": 2293.44}, {"text": "committee okay then I will move forward to uh to reading out the resolution uh", "start": 2294.52, "end": 2300.04}, {"text": "it is a long one as I'll be going through the recommendations I put forward in the report um uh resolved that that report", "start": 2300.04, "end": 2308.72}, {"text": "HG 2418 for 25th Street Heritage permit application be received and that the", "start": 2308.72, "end": 2315.72}, {"text": "committee recommends the Heritage permit for 25th Street be recommended for approval subject to the following terms", "start": 2315.72, "end": 2322.4}, {"text": "and conditions that a structural stabilization plan be completed to the satisfaction of the director of planning", "start": 2322.4, "end": 2329.72}, {"text": "that the structural stabilization plan outlines how the building will be appropriately reinforced if required to", "start": 2329.72, "end": 2336.52}, {"text": "enable further exploratory work and restoration no additional exploratory or", "start": 2336.52, "end": 2341.68}, {"text": "restoration work shall occur until stabiliz stabilization has occurred if required all structural stabilization", "start": 2341.68, "end": 2349.24}, {"text": "interventions may be required to stabilize the building be approved by Heritage staff that a conservation plan", "start": 2349.24, "end": 2356.64}, {"text": "be completed to the satisfaction of the director of planning and due to the small amount of information provided on", "start": 2356.64, "end": 2363}, {"text": "the Heritage permit application it is required that all proposed works uh be further detailed with the conservation", "start": 2363, "end": 2371.16}, {"text": "plan and once the above conditions have been satisfied Heritage staff have the", "start": 2371.16, "end": 2376.68}, {"text": "delegated authority to approve any minor removal of materials that is required", "start": 2376.68, "end": 2381.88}, {"text": "due to unforeseen deterioration do I have a mover councelor", "start": 2381.88, "end": 2390.078}, {"text": "Changi and a seconder counc of", "start": 2390.16, "end": 2396.319}, {"text": "Flavio all in favor all right that will be", "start": 2396.319, "end": 2401.72}, {"text": "carried all right okay that's Carrie thank you for", "start": 2401.72, "end": 2407.48}, {"text": "for those questions that discussion uh we'll move on to our uh announcement", "start": 2407.48, "end": 2412.68}, {"text": "provided by Bianca thank you through you the chair um so I have a uh announcement in", "start": 2412.68, "end": 2420.24}, {"text": "regards to World town planning day so November 8th was Canada's 75th anniversary of worldtown planning day", "start": 2420.24, "end": 2426.8}, {"text": "and in celebration of the 75th year of world town planning Day in Canada", "start": 2426.8, "end": 2431.92}, {"text": "Grimsby planning staff have organized several World town planning day themed activities and events throughout Grimsby", "start": 2431.92, "end": 2437.8}, {"text": "during the month of November so planning themes themed activities are taking place at the library throughout member", "start": 2437.8, "end": 2444.88}, {"text": "um there's some um books for um youth in the community to read to learn more", "start": 2444.88, "end": 2450.359}, {"text": "about uh planning and there'll be some activities some coloring sheets and things like that so um that will be at", "start": 2450.359, "end": 2456.119}, {"text": "the library we will be also having an engaging walking tour of downtown Grimsby where we will um close out the", "start": 2456.119, "end": 2463.079}, {"text": "festivities on November 29th the tour will provide an understanding of how grimsby's rich history has influenced", "start": 2463.079, "end": 2469.599}, {"text": "our built landscape um the tour is scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. at the Lion's Club pool uh Lions Club um", "start": 2469.599, "end": 2478.119}, {"text": "community pool on November 29th um we would also like to highlight that there will be a photo showcase and", "start": 2478.119, "end": 2485.16}, {"text": "this will be an opportunity for the community to show case what they love about Grimsby which is open for submission until December 12th 2024 at 4", "start": 2485.16, "end": 2493.28}, {"text": "p.m. uh sorry at 5:00 p.m. this is an opportunity to submit original photos of Grimsby and vote for your favorites uh", "start": 2493.28, "end": 2500.16}, {"text": "faor your favorites uh winners will be chosen and announced online in January", "start": 2500.16, "end": 2506.44}, {"text": "to learn more about the prizes and how to submit a photo please visit the world town planning day web page on Grimsby", "start": 2506.44, "end": 2513.04}, {"text": "doca thank you that's a really great initiative", "start": 2513.04, "end": 2518.56}, {"text": "thank you very much for sharing uh I I think with that then uh we can adjourn", "start": 2518.56, "end": 2524.44}, {"text": "uh this evening's Heritage committee meeting thank you all very much and we'll see you next", "start": 2524.44, "end": 2531.52}]