[{"text": "okay only way good morning everyone and welcome to the city of Palm Coast uh", "start": 3.08, "end": 10.12}, {"text": "city council business meeting this morning it's Tuesday November the 12th", "start": 10.12, "end": 16.8}, {"text": "20124 it's uh 9:02 a.m. and we are in the community wing of City Hall I would", "start": 16.8, "end": 23.96}, {"text": "to ask you all to please rise and uh stand join me in our Pledge of Allegiance and following the pledge", "start": 23.96, "end": 29.279}, {"text": "you're welcome to remain standing for a moment of silence to reflect meditate pray or pause for a", "start": 29.279, "end": 36.6}, {"text": "moment I Al to the flag of the United States of America to", "start": 38.079, "end": 45.48}, {"text": "the stands one nation God indivisible", "start": 45.48, "end": 50.719}, {"text": "with liy and justice for all", "start": 50.719, "end": 55.6}, {"text": "you all right thank you everyone please be", "start": 71.799, "end": 76.28}, {"text": "seated and I would go ahead and ask the clerk to call the role please mayor Al", "start": 77.2, "end": 82.68}, {"text": "vice mayor Dano here council member gambaro here council member kuus present council member pontier present all", "start": 82.68, "end": 88.96}, {"text": "members are present very good the first uh item uh on our agenda D are", "start": 88.96, "end": 95.28}, {"text": "proclamations and presentations and I'm going to ask councilman kuus to deliver what will be this council's final", "start": 95.28, "end": 102.439}, {"text": "Proclamation I think a fitting one and one that represents uh a trend setting", "start": 102.439, "end": 109.2}, {"text": "uh initiative by a trend Setter so councilman", "start": 109.2, "end": 115.88}, {"text": "good morning", "start": 135.04, "end": 138.2}, {"text": "get", "start": 152.04, "end": 154.2}, {"text": "close oh picture Duty good call delegation got management written all", "start": 160.2, "end": 165.519}, {"text": "over you perfect thank you all for being here this morning this Proclamation whereas", "start": 165.519, "end": 172.8}, {"text": "Shirley chisel was a humanitarian a politician and achieved a dynamic list", "start": 172.8, "end": 177.84}, {"text": "of Firsts she was a trendsetter before her time and whereas chism's Legacy", "start": 177.84, "end": 182.92}, {"text": "focused on the equal rights of women children family and education and whereas chisel made history for being", "start": 182.92, "end": 189.92}, {"text": "the first black United States congresswoman and making a bid for the US presidency in 1972 she was an advocate for minority", "start": 189.92, "end": 197.239}, {"text": "education and employment opportunities during her term in Congress and whereas", "start": 197.239, "end": 202.72}, {"text": "Shirley chisel was a bold in taking a diverse approach as a politician she stood firm in what she believed in as a", "start": 202.72, "end": 209.879}, {"text": "gifted leader she brought awareness by being a purposeful purposeful voice which extended to the black community", "start": 209.879, "end": 215.799}, {"text": "and whereas Shirley moved to the city of Palm Coast in 1991 and lived here until her death in 2005 and whereas a trail", "start": 215.799, "end": 223.319}, {"text": "along Pine lak's Parkway was dedicated to Shirley uh Shirley's Legacy on November 30th 2022 sponsored by the", "start": 223.319, "end": 229.959}, {"text": "Democratic Women's Club of Flagler County which was amazing uh now therefore be it proclaimed by the mayor", "start": 229.959, "end": 235.599}, {"text": "and the city council of the city of Palm Coast Florida that November 2024 officially be designated as Shirley", "start": 235.599, "end": 241.319}, {"text": "Chisum month to remember Shirley and reflect upon all of her accomplishments in life and contributions to our nation", "start": 241.319, "end": 247.239}, {"text": "and remember her as a catalyst for change in America signed this 12th day of November 2024 city of Palm Coast", "start": 247.239, "end": 254.159}, {"text": "Florida mayor David [Applause]", "start": 254.159, "end": 261.729}, {"text": "alen good morning and thank you thank you so much you're right this has been", "start": 264.44, "end": 269.919}, {"text": "three years of us uh announcing and having Shirley Chisum day many of us", "start": 269.919, "end": 276.36}, {"text": "remember when she lived here and was a integral part of the community and as", "start": 276.36, "end": 282.4}, {"text": "Citizens and residents of Flagler County and of course Palm Coast we're so happy", "start": 282.4, "end": 288.8}, {"text": "to have a place where visitors bikers and workers can come and experience", "start": 288.8, "end": 296.759}, {"text": "Shirley Chism what you see before you here are several other the women who", "start": 296.759, "end": 302}, {"text": "have recorded a statement at the site so you'll see a", "start": 302, "end": 307.039}, {"text": "Trailblazer uh a trail marker pardon me a trail marker and then when you put your phone up and you listen to it", "start": 307.039, "end": 314.039}, {"text": "you'll hear one of your neighbors talk about Shirley Chisum and the Great", "start": 314.039, "end": 320.12}, {"text": "accomplishments that she did we thank you and we just want you to remember her", "start": 320.12, "end": 326.12}, {"text": "last statements and she made many but her last stat St M", "start": 326.12, "end": 331.24}, {"text": "was of her Legacy Chism said I want to be remembered as a woman who dared to be", "start": 331.24, "end": 338.68}, {"text": "a catalyst of change thank", "start": 338.68, "end": 343.319}, {"text": "you so Nick if I could just uh add a comment um I I wanted you to be down at", "start": 348.4, "end": 354}, {"text": "the podium this morning but um I need to share with each and every one of you", "start": 354, "end": 359.28}, {"text": "that I became of age whatever that means when Shirley first made national news so", "start": 359.28, "end": 366.08}, {"text": "I would think that she is as much an inspiration to my interest um at", "start": 366.08, "end": 371.639}, {"text": "whatever level for politics and the Catalyst for change I respect that very very much so she's had a personal effect", "start": 371.639, "end": 378.88}, {"text": "on me through these many years because I remember it vividly when I was in high school when she started to become uh you", "start": 378.88, "end": 386.599}, {"text": "know make that notoriety so anyway I want to share that with", "start": 386.599, "end": 392.68}, {"text": "[Laughter] you good", "start": 393.66, "end": 400.639}, {"text": "one yeah me", "start": 401.4, "end": 404.759}, {"text": "too all right ready one two", "start": 413.12, "end": 418.52}, {"text": "three I got all you well", "start": 418.52, "end": 422.319}, {"text": "done thank thank you", "start": 426.08, "end": 429.758}, {"text": "ladies thank you gladus Jesus", "start": 435.599, "end": 442.16}, {"text": "okay our uh next item thank you well done our next item on the agenda this morning is a presentation regarding", "start": 452.08, "end": 458.72}, {"text": "exterior building house colors so staff you'll be making a presentation for us", "start": 458.72, "end": 464.56}, {"text": "thank", "start": 464.56, "end": 466.72}, {"text": "you mayor city council while staff is getting ready mayor while staff is getting ready just", "start": 470.4, "end": 477.159}, {"text": "to remind you um you saw this once before you requested that it go to the", "start": 477.159, "end": 483.24}, {"text": "beac and the planning board for recommendations staff's going to review those recommendations and we will take", "start": 483.24, "end": 491.24}, {"text": "um your next direction to bring back an ordinance this is just a presentation so", "start": 491.24, "end": 496.479}, {"text": "presentation and you want some kind of specific direction for uh for you as staff uh to proceed going forward", "start": 496.479, "end": 504.12}, {"text": "understood thank you ladies good morning mayor and City", "start": 504.12, "end": 509.56}, {"text": "Council my name is Tracy do I'm the zoning supervisor and I'm here with barara Gman code enforcement manager and", "start": 509.56, "end": 516.12}, {"text": "we're here to provide you with a followup to the presentation for exterior colors from the September 10th", "start": 516.12, "end": 522.039}, {"text": "Workshop you would ask staff to get feedback from the planning and Land Development regulation board and the", "start": 522.039, "end": 527.32}, {"text": "beautification and environmental advisory committee on the aforementioned presentation the next two slides will", "start": 527.32, "end": 533.839}, {"text": "outline their feedback and recommendations bless you bless you", "start": 533.839, "end": 538.92}, {"text": "after being shown the presentation which was shown to Council on September 10th the pldb supported staff's", "start": 538.92, "end": 545.76}, {"text": "recommendation to expand the color palette they also suggested adding yellow to the list of prohibited colors", "start": 545.76, "end": 552.8}, {"text": "revisiting the color code during the Land Development code rewrite after the comp comp plan is adopted and to", "start": 552.8, "end": 558.92}, {"text": "consider modifications to the lrv range during the", "start": 558.92, "end": 563.959}, {"text": "rewrite the beac was also shown the same presentation that was shown to city council and they had the following", "start": 565.079, "end": 572.04}, {"text": "recommendations proceed with amending the allowable colors as presented by staff solicit input from citizens in the", "start": 572.04, "end": 578.959}, {"text": "future to ensure broader public response and also to review approved colors again", "start": 578.959, "end": 584.36}, {"text": "when chapter 13 of the LDC is revised after the comp pl's", "start": 584.36, "end": 590.56}, {"text": "adoption so options for consideration keep the code is no changes amend code", "start": 591.519, "end": 598.56}, {"text": "to allow addition colors as presented as was recommended by beac amend code to", "start": 598.56, "end": 604.839}, {"text": "add yellow to prohibited colors as was recommended by plrb and other options or discussion by", "start": 604.839, "end": 614.6}, {"text": "Council okay that's the presentation okay um and with regard to some of the", "start": 615.32, "end": 623.12}, {"text": "the consequences uh scientific consequences reflectivity and things", "start": 623.12, "end": 629.12}, {"text": "like that is is that mixed in here or what you're showing us fits within the", "start": 629.12, "end": 636.8}, {"text": "existing um uh um code requ we added", "start": 636.8, "end": 643}, {"text": "additional colors um which is what's in your envelopes that we had presented we had the board um so we added colors but", "start": 643, "end": 650.16}, {"text": "not changing the reflectivity standards yes we actually added colors and added", "start": 650.16, "end": 655.76}, {"text": "the lrv to 65 because current L any color is allowed if it's over an 80 so", "start": 655.76, "end": 662.56}, {"text": "we included those five colors and lowered the lrv to 65 for those colors", "start": 662.56, "end": 668.959}, {"text": "so I just help for the public so the change in in the reflectivity is a minor", "start": 668.959, "end": 674.76}, {"text": "change or gradual change help me understand because not everybody gets what that", "start": 674.76, "end": 679.959}, {"text": "is what they did is they changed the lrv to give it sorry what they did is they changed um", "start": 679.959, "end": 688}, {"text": "the reduction of the lrv to allow additional colors that weren't in there so you could have a little bit of of", "start": 688, "end": 693.959}, {"text": "color in the in the uh peach the peach colors and lavender green blue right so", "start": 693.959, "end": 701.839}, {"text": "it's just it would it's going we're recommending to take it from an 80 to open it up a little bit more to a 65", "start": 701.839, "end": 708.399}, {"text": "from an 80 to a 65 so can you comment on what does that really mean if you're driving by a house on a", "start": 708.399, "end": 714.8}, {"text": "street it's just giving them additional colors as we showed you in the Hu that that gives you a little M more uh", "start": 714.8, "end": 721.48}, {"text": "because you're almost at a white color at the 80 correct on all of the colors so this was to give a little bit more so", "start": 721.48, "end": 728.2}, {"text": "that they could have the colors that they like the the we already were allowing green but we had like a sage", "start": 728.2, "end": 734.16}, {"text": "now there's going to be a little bit more certainly doesn't represent a striking change of any kind no it does not cor want to be sure okay sorry just", "start": 734.16, "end": 741}, {"text": "wanted to get up to speed on that City Council Members would you like to comment you have uh what looks like a", "start": 741, "end": 747.36}, {"text": "whole pette of of colors here that I I have to admit I'm not really very good at this neither am I okay whatever what", "start": 747.36, "end": 755.76}, {"text": "whatever color she likes um thank you for uh doing this", "start": 755.76, "end": 761.72}, {"text": "thanks for going back to um BAC I think that was a good move and um my only question that I had was I see that we've", "start": 761.72, "end": 768.519}, {"text": "added yellow um is there was that just a suggestion from the board okay and is", "start": 768.519, "end": 775.639}, {"text": "that yellow bound to the same lrv so still at the 65 the yellows um were right now they're", "start": 775.639, "end": 784.079}, {"text": "allowed over an 80 and Okay the reason was is because anything under an 80 with the yellow got very loud yes um and", "start": 784.079, "end": 792.519}, {"text": "bright so um that's why they thought we should even prohibit yellows except for", "start": 792.519, "end": 799.279}, {"text": "um as a I'm sorry as a Earth Tone or pastel I'm", "start": 799.279, "end": 804.399}, {"text": "sorry okay so it's", "start": 804.399, "end": 808.88}, {"text": "okay so it says to amend code to add yellow to prohibited colors as recommended by pdrb correct that would", "start": 811.72, "end": 818.16}, {"text": "they would still be allowed as a pastel but under under an 80 would not be it would become prohibited okay thanks for", "start": 818.16, "end": 824.56}, {"text": "that clarification and I I I think I I feel obligated to ask the question U changes of this nature as far as we know", "start": 824.56, "end": 833.199}, {"text": "would have no effect on the value of property or the", "start": 833.199, "end": 839.88}, {"text": "uh the beautification or the look of neighborhoods I know it's subjective but", "start": 839.88, "end": 846.399}, {"text": "your opinion on that is it would or would not represent a", "start": 846.399, "end": 852.32}, {"text": "financial dis uh change no because it's not that dress it's it's from an 80 to a", "start": 852.32, "end": 858.44}, {"text": "65 it's still staying within the pastel colors but allowing a little bit more of a v variety and when you when you", "start": 858.44, "end": 865.839}, {"text": "mentioned the yellow you don't want the canary yellow yeah then then that impacts I struggle when when when colors", "start": 865.839, "end": 872.92}, {"text": "are described as loud because I can't hear them so it's a hard one anyway nice nice councilman clus that joke was", "start": 872.92, "end": 879.399}, {"text": "palatable that was very good um my question would be yellow homes are going to be grandfathered in so there's just", "start": 879.399, "end": 885.079}, {"text": "for clarity there's no uh changes that are going to result in someone having to immediately change their home color right that's the way it is in the code", "start": 885.079, "end": 891.36}, {"text": "now so if their house was painted yellow back in the day and they're painting it the same color they would be able to do", "start": 891.36, "end": 897.04}, {"text": "it that's the way the code reads understood and I think these changes I think these are very much colors that", "start": 897.04, "end": 902.44}, {"text": "are within the Palm Coast pet so I would uh be in agreement with our beac and", "start": 902.44, "end": 907.959}, {"text": "then also the pld drrb so thank you very much for all of this thank you councilman gambaro yeah so on the yellow", "start": 907.959, "end": 914.36}, {"text": "colors um thank you for the brief um on the yellow colors just if you could place those caveats of you know just", "start": 914.36, "end": 921.279}, {"text": "make sure that we're clear that existing homes are grandfathered in and that those over whatever the 80% uh mark or", "start": 921.279, "end": 929.279}, {"text": "pastel are included because as it reads right now as as it was presented just says hey we're taking out yellow and uh", "start": 929.279, "end": 936.48}, {"text": "um I just want to make sure that that we're clear so that everybody has an opportunity to input on it provide input", "start": 936.48, "end": 941.639}, {"text": "no comment on the green I saw a lot of that green yesterday but thank you for your service thank you thank you thank", "start": 941.639, "end": 948.519}, {"text": "you ladies thank you all right so um Direction um this is a business meeting", "start": 948.519, "end": 955.319}, {"text": "so um uh Jason are you looking for will a vote suffice uh let me summarize what", "start": 955.319, "end": 961.8}, {"text": "I think I heard you would like to expand the pallet as originally presented except for the yellow colors which will", "start": 961.8, "end": 968.12}, {"text": "remain in an lrv of 80 I yes I that's uh I think what", "start": 968.12, "end": 973.399}, {"text": "everyone has said in a in a variety of different ways okay we will PR prepare an ordinance and bring it back for city", "start": 973.399, "end": 979.519}, {"text": "council very you good thank you ladies thank you for your efforts on this uh any final comments regarding this very", "start": 979.519, "end": 985}, {"text": "good thank you all Barbara thank you for everything Lise yeah absolutely thank you all right we'll move forward with a", "start": 985, "end": 990.72}, {"text": "presentation regarding the hurricane Milton pres preparation and", "start": 990.72, "end": 997.44}, {"text": "response Chief is that you thank [Applause]", "start": 999.279, "end": 1005.399}, {"text": "you good morning mayor and Council Kyle Barry Hill fire chief", "start": 1008.959, "end": 1015}, {"text": "morning we didn't change that clock back there I know I saw it", "start": 1015.04, "end": 1020.399}, {"text": "excellent um and I'm tab teaming today with uh Chief of Staff D Lorenzo um and", "start": 1020.399, "end": 1026.319}, {"text": "we're going to talk just for a second about some of the things that we did in preparation and how our city responds to", "start": 1026.319, "end": 1032.959}, {"text": "um not just hurricanes but all manner of um large area disasters um you've I've", "start": 1032.959, "end": 1038.959}, {"text": "seen you on the ground when a tornado response not that long ago um but what occurs in the city every day is when", "start": 1038.959, "end": 1046.12}, {"text": "there's an incident the city of PM Coast fire department um provides uh some management strategy that's called the", "start": 1046.12, "end": 1052.08}, {"text": "incident command system and the incident command system is a collapsable and expandable system of um how you can", "start": 1052.08, "end": 1058.72}, {"text": "manage emergency incidents so that you can keep every resource um aligned to", "start": 1058.72, "end": 1064.799}, {"text": "the priorities and the incident priorities don't change um we use them all the time in the fire department our", "start": 1064.799, "end": 1070.039}, {"text": "number one priority is always Life Safety so we're able to take all of the resources of the city and sometimes uh", "start": 1070.039, "end": 1076.64}, {"text": "the priority in the Parks Department um may not be a life safety priority so director Hurst is prepared and the park", "start": 1076.64, "end": 1083.2}, {"text": "staff are prepared to be reassoc or reassigned to something that meets that life safety priority so our our incident", "start": 1083.2, "end": 1090.2}, {"text": "priorities are always Life Safety um property conservation and then incident stabilization the sooner we can get back", "start": 1090.2, "end": 1096.6}, {"text": "to the normal life that we have um the better so first I'll talk a little bit um", "start": 1096.6, "end": 1103.72}, {"text": "about maybe Kyle I have the clicker as well oh Jason has the clicker see I", "start": 1104.28, "end": 1110.159}, {"text": "didn't know that there you go a we're we're obviously just a hair out of our normal uh stuff today so um the storm", "start": 1110.159, "end": 1117.4}, {"text": "stats the city took rainfall from October 5th to 11th um in between 12 and", "start": 1117.4, "end": 1123.039}, {"text": "a 12 and 16 in in different parts of the city um we recorded a maximum wind speed", "start": 1123.039, "end": 1128.44}, {"text": "of 58 miles hour it's the largest it's the highest maximum wind speed um that I believe has been recorded in my career", "start": 1128.44, "end": 1134.64}, {"text": "since 2005 and over uh 50,000 people lost power countywide so we know that", "start": 1134.64, "end": 1140.84}, {"text": "has a tremendous impact in in both uh are folks staying safe there are people", "start": 1140.84, "end": 1145.88}, {"text": "who need their power that's why there was people in some of our shelters um and we know that that also creates a", "start": 1145.88, "end": 1151.6}, {"text": "tremendous um change to our daily way of life and creates some hazards that we have to be prepared for and we have to", "start": 1151.6, "end": 1158.08}, {"text": "change how we operate for a little bit in order to get back to what's normal for us here in Palm Coast um this is our", "start": 1158.08, "end": 1164.72}, {"text": "command structure so myself and chief Clark accident acted as The Incident Commander um with Miss Johnston um working", "start": 1164.72, "end": 1172.08}, {"text": "together with other uh city city and county administrators and count city managers um on policy issues and also", "start": 1172.08, "end": 1178.52}, {"text": "keeping um you informed as to what our city was doing and then we broke down into so there's a few things that the", "start": 1178.52, "end": 1185.08}, {"text": "incident command structor says and we're going to talk a little bit um but um Jason and um Lynn Stevens took roles as", "start": 1185.08, "end": 1191.799}, {"text": "our operation section chief so basically anyone who might sweat while they're working um was a part of this operation", "start": 1191.799, "end": 1198.32}, {"text": "section and we really I'm incredibly proud of the way that all the team diverted to do", "start": 1198.32, "end": 1203.559}, {"text": "things that were in line with the incident priorities we prepare all the time for stuff like this each department", "start": 1203.559, "end": 1209.72}, {"text": "has a list of things they do beginning um at the at the beginning of the year we budget in their budget process um are", "start": 1209.72, "end": 1216.84}, {"text": "we making sure that we have sandbags ordered in January so that way as we get close to Hurricane Season we're ready", "start": 1216.84, "end": 1222.32}, {"text": "and not just for these kind of things but also we have intense Wildfire situations we have tornadoes um and any", "start": 1222.32, "end": 1228.44}, {"text": "kind of natural or um man-made disaster so um I'm going to first tell a little", "start": 1228.44, "end": 1234.4}, {"text": "bit of the story what the fire department did we were under um uh the operation section chief in there and we", "start": 1234.4, "end": 1241.28}, {"text": "had um Chief Holmes and chief Potter who stepped up for us um and chief 5 as um to run our operations in the fire", "start": 1241.28, "end": 1248.039}, {"text": "department so during that time um the fire department responded to over 56 to 56 calls over the week of Hurricane", "start": 1248.039, "end": 1254.6}, {"text": "Milton we usually respond to a little over 300 in a week um they provided real-time updates on the conditions in", "start": 1254.6, "end": 1261.039}, {"text": "the community as residents dealt with the storm one of the things you'll see throughout the presentation is our JS team has developed a tool so that we're", "start": 1261.039, "end": 1267.48}, {"text": "able to mark things that are hazardous um so that way anyone who's responding is able to um see what's going on and we", "start": 1267.48, "end": 1275.32}, {"text": "can see in the EOC which is actually in this room um if we need to alter or we need to throw some resources at a", "start": 1275.32, "end": 1280.96}, {"text": "certain situation um but the Palm Coast fire department was able to run continuous operations throughout the", "start": 1280.96, "end": 1286.36}, {"text": "storm many many times in a storm like this the winds will reach a place where we have to discontinue fire operations", "start": 1286.36, "end": 1293.36}, {"text": "and we definitely discontinued other operations in the city as a result of the storm um sustained winds of more", "start": 1293.36, "end": 1300.2}, {"text": "than um uh a certain threshold um we will shut down um fire operations until", "start": 1300.2, "end": 1306.24}, {"text": "we get past that threshold we have a couple of places in the city that we're checking um where that is because the", "start": 1306.24, "end": 1312.4}, {"text": "beach Flagler Beach did shut down the city of Orlando shut down all police and fire operations so there's a point where", "start": 1312.4, "end": 1318.24}, {"text": "it's not safe for the responders to respond and we tell our residents to be prepared for a time where that can't happen but that did not happen during", "start": 1318.24, "end": 1324.64}, {"text": "the storm Palm Coast fire department continue to respond continuously um we supported partner agencies some things", "start": 1324.64, "end": 1331.08}, {"text": "that we do is we let the beach park some things that they don't want to get saltwater on at station 25 um we have um", "start": 1331.08, "end": 1337.32}, {"text": "Flagler County fire rescue always operates out of um five of the six stations we respond from they had an", "start": 1337.32, "end": 1342.52}, {"text": "increased presence we support that we also have um support uh our internal Partners who um prepare to go out with", "start": 1342.52, "end": 1349.72}, {"text": "us if a tree falls down and we can't get to a 911 call Public Works or storm water staff are prepared to use heavy", "start": 1349.72, "end": 1355.36}, {"text": "equipment to help us get to um the incident that's uh in need and finally wear a place of shelter for deputies in", "start": 1355.36, "end": 1361.84}, {"text": "case they get to a place where they cannot um go operate um during this storm something unique that happened was", "start": 1361.84, "end": 1368.039}, {"text": "the Flagler County Emergency Operations Center lost power that's also where the 911 system is housed um when that system", "start": 1368.039, "end": 1374.039}, {"text": "lost power something that we consistently do in these is stand up a Palm Coast dispatch system because we're so overrun with calls we're able to", "start": 1374.039, "end": 1380.799}, {"text": "triage them a little bit better you can see a slide of that was in the training room at station 25 um where they were", "start": 1380.799, "end": 1386.6}, {"text": "operating at 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we had a very successful um event so we're really", "start": 1464.44, "end": 1471.24}, {"text": "proud of the work that uh Jason and the team did and he's going to tell you a little bit about that just stay there one second let me", "start": 1471.24, "end": 1477.08}, {"text": "make sure this works okay uh thanks Kyle um mayor city", "start": 1477.08, "end": 1482.76}, {"text": "council um the Kyle and Brad and their leadership has been tremendous in moving", "start": 1482.76, "end": 1490.24}, {"text": "the city forward in event-based uh Emergency Management it's been", "start": 1490.24, "end": 1495.559}, {"text": "incredible how they've been able to help us grow as an organization as Kyle", "start": 1495.559, "end": 1500.64}, {"text": "mentioned uh lot of focus on um deepening the bench giving people different roles so they understand it in", "start": 1500.64, "end": 1507.36}, {"text": "the incident command system and uh I think we're getting better and better at this so it's really 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1849.24}, {"text": "with the way he responded and more importantly the way that you continue to communicate with those of us on the", "start": 1849.24, "end": 1854.76}, {"text": "mayor and those of us on the council um to keep us informed as to What were what was going on so that we could", "start": 1854.76, "end": 1860.08}, {"text": "communicate moving forward but um these pictures I think some of them I took their real time and the it was amazing", "start": 1860.08, "end": 1866.32}, {"text": "how fast uh both DPW the fire department everybody responded to to to help our citizens so thank you thank you", "start": 1866.32, "end": 1874.96}, {"text": "councilman good Cal uh Fleet and Facilities has several pre-storm activities including um", "start": 1875.36, "end": 1883.44}, {"text": "confirming essential vehicles and Equipment are fueled serviced and operational that uh fuel reserves and", "start": 1883.44, "end": 1888.76}, {"text": "tanks are topped off inspect and fully stock service 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eight years we are waiting for a FEMA representative to be assigned but as you", "start": 2775.64, "end": 2781.359}, {"text": "can see from the chart it will likely take several years for complete reimbursement heavy", "start": 2781.359, "end": 2788.92}, {"text": "foreshadow part for the court I yeah uh finally um mayor uh city council", "start": 2789.559, "end": 2798.44}, {"text": "Miss Johnson and I need to thank the dedicated copc staff um they live our mission of making", "start": 2798.44, "end": 2805.68}, {"text": "citizens our priority every day and um Municipal workers are expected to leave", "start": 2805.68, "end": 2811.64}, {"text": "their families to help uh our residents and they do that and uh this hardworking", "start": 2811.64, "end": 2817.72}, {"text": "team has proven time and time again that they are the best in the business so thank you that concludes this", "start": 2817.72, "end": 2823.4}, {"text": "presentation thank you that concludes the presentation yes sir let let me just say my comments will be brief but in no", "start": 2823.4, "end": 2830}, {"text": "way do they suggest anything but an incredibly strong and and and", "start": 2830, "end": 2837.04}, {"text": "professional effort by every member of the team which uh runs the gamut of", "start": 2837.04, "end": 2843.599}, {"text": "pretty much every Department within the city the question I have and I would ask city", "start": 2843.599, "end": 2848.839}, {"text": "council either now or in the future to consider it is so what is it that we", "start": 2848.839, "end": 2855.079}, {"text": "learned from this storm and the prior storms that now we can improve on", "start": 2855.079, "end": 2861.8}, {"text": "specifically um and I do find a gap between what you just shared with us", "start": 2861.8, "end": 2867.2}, {"text": "especially in the last couple of slides and what the public takeaway was in other words if I look out throughout the", "start": 2867.2, "end": 2875.48}, {"text": "region and I understand that there are many people that are suffering terribly", "start": 2875.48, "end": 2880.559}, {"text": "and we did have folks here locally that also suffered but as a community a", "start": 2880.559, "end": 2886.119}, {"text": "utility function that was resilient enough to handle three times its uh", "start": 2886.119, "end": 2891.2}, {"text": "qualified capacity um obviously suggests need for investment and Improvement but", "start": 2891.2, "end": 2898.52}, {"text": "what I'm not hearing is that the city of Palm Coast kind of um shown through a a", "start": 2898.52, "end": 2905.559}, {"text": "tragedy because of uh the the um uh the preparation and the", "start": 2905.559, "end": 2912.88}, {"text": "execution of a plan that has taken years to put in place and I'm not sure that", "start": 2912.88, "end": 2918}, {"text": "we've shared that sufficiently with the community so I would hope there would be a continuing effort to help folks", "start": 2918, "end": 2926.16}, {"text": "understand that that we have the people here that that keep people safe so that's just a comment for City Council", "start": 2926.16, "end": 2932.48}, {"text": "Members to bite on or not so please if anybody wants to weigh in on the president no thank you very", "start": 2932.48, "end": 2939.319}, {"text": "much uh thank you Chief and thank you Jason for the information the presentation um I want to give an", "start": 2939.319, "end": 2945.599}, {"text": "incredible kudos to fire department to staff Public Works um Everybody", "start": 2945.599, "end": 2952}, {"text": "Communications I mean I I just there's just so many people who contributed to the success I think overall um and", "start": 2952, "end": 2959.24}, {"text": "congratulations to Chief CL Clark for 40 years I didn't know that it's pretty incredible um I am incredibly impressed", "start": 2959.24, "end": 2967.68}, {"text": "by the I think really Hands-On assessment that we did personally for so many of our residents I know a lot of", "start": 2967.68, "end": 2973.44}, {"text": "residents reached out to me regarding sandbags flooding downlines um things", "start": 2973.44, "end": 2978.799}, {"text": "blocking roads and I reached out to staff um particularly Matt Mansel in the back there and his crew was on it uh", "start": 2978.799, "end": 2986.599}, {"text": "yesterday so I really appreciate that I think that's a dedication to our residents that they quite candidly have", "start": 2986.599, "end": 2992.76}, {"text": "come to expect um I think that we learned uh mayor to your point that we", "start": 2992.76, "end": 2997.839}, {"text": "do have some trouble spots uh specifically in The Woodlands I think we all know that and we are currently working on some projects to help in that", "start": 2997.839, "end": 3005.64}, {"text": "regard so I think as we continue to triage those issues we have to um", "start": 3005.64, "end": 3012.119}, {"text": "appreciate all of this highlevel work that went into I think an overall successful response and preparation but", "start": 3012.119, "end": 3018.72}, {"text": "also keep in mind that we're not perfect and that we can always improve um the one thing that I will ask of Staff as", "start": 3018.72, "end": 3024.52}, {"text": "far as an improvement um I think that one of the things that I know my", "start": 3024.52, "end": 3030.119}, {"text": "residents have been very frustrated with is the debris pickup and that is not", "start": 3030.119, "end": 3035.2}, {"text": "really something that the city of Palm Coast is um I shouldn't say responsible", "start": 3035.2, "end": 3041.16}, {"text": "for because we are but we have contractors that we've hired to come in and engage in this type of work and I", "start": 3041.16, "end": 3047.24}, {"text": "think the problem is our contracts with those thirdparty contractors don't have teeth so in other words we don't have", "start": 3047.24, "end": 3054.359}, {"text": "the ability to force them to come into our community in a timely manner and pick up a lot of the debris that our", "start": 3054.359, "end": 3061.16}, {"text": "residents have had on their curbs for the last several weeks waiting to be picked up so what I would ask um Jason", "start": 3061.16, "end": 3067.88}, {"text": "is at procurement look at all of our contracts um specifically when we need", "start": 3067.88, "end": 3073.24}, {"text": "to call in contractors for emergencies and um look at two things one are we", "start": 3073.24, "end": 3078.599}, {"text": "competitive as far as what we're paying these folks to come in and and um and do", "start": 3078.599, "end": 3084.04}, {"text": "these Services because it's my understanding that we may not be as competitive as surrounding municipalities and counties and so they", "start": 3084.04, "end": 3090.44}, {"text": "just said no we're going to go to other places first and I think the last thing that we need to be worrying about in an", "start": 3090.44, "end": 3096.119}, {"text": "emergency situation is what our contracts um look like uh and number two", "start": 3096.119, "end": 3102}, {"text": "what reprecussions um can we impose on these contractors for not coming to our", "start": 3102, "end": 3107.559}, {"text": "community in a timely manner do our contracts say that within a certain amount of time they have to respond I", "start": 3107.559, "end": 3113.359}, {"text": "don't know the answers to those questions and so those are the things that I would like procurement and staff to look at so that next time a storm", "start": 3113.359, "end": 3120.2}, {"text": "comes we actually have some teeth we have some strong contracts that we can enforce against these contractors and get them in our communities quicker so", "start": 3120.2, "end": 3127.559}, {"text": "thank you thank you for the presentation and thank you once again to all of our", "start": 3127.559, "end": 3132.16}, {"text": "staff great job and over the past eight years I've seen an incredible growth", "start": 3132.68, "end": 3137.799}, {"text": "throughout the entire city synergistically working between interdepartmental uh management and also", "start": 3137.799, "end": 3143.16}, {"text": "staff and then the boots on the ground employing technology across all of the different different areas for us to coordinate um I think the long-term", "start": 3143.16, "end": 3150.76}, {"text": "problem was is going to keep happening with uh the haulers it's an interesting situation because they go where the money goes and when there's disaster", "start": 3150.76, "end": 3157}, {"text": "across the state in a more severe manner than us that's where they end up going uh I wish the future council's luck in", "start": 3157, "end": 3163.44}, {"text": "trying to solve that problem but we saw it with Matthew Irma um all the storms were the last eight years they go where", "start": 3163.44, "end": 3168.64}, {"text": "the the disasters are and thankfully knock gunwood we haven't uh had an impact such as that um I would say to", "start": 3168.64, "end": 3175.88}, {"text": "the staff keep going you guys are doing amazing the formalization of your processes has been incredibly impressive um thank you", "start": 3175.88, "end": 3182.599}, {"text": "to management for stepping up and being leaders uh our Council for being Hands-On boots on the ground uh thank", "start": 3182.599, "end": 3188.079}, {"text": "you guys for everything that you're doing for uh the community members on the ground and it's been a privilege and a pleasure to work with all the staff", "start": 3188.079, "end": 3194.119}, {"text": "for all of these emergencies which always seem to bring everyone on our team together uh it's it's been great", "start": 3194.119, "end": 3199.72}, {"text": "and to see that type of uh growth amongst the team is really something special so great job councilman gamb bar", "start": 3199.72, "end": 3206.96}, {"text": "any additional comments no Mr Mayor nothing further to add I Echo everybody's thoughts and comments here", "start": 3206.96, "end": 3212.96}, {"text": "thank you thank you so with that um I I neglected to open up uh the prior", "start": 3212.96, "end": 3219.079}, {"text": "presentation to uh public comment so I'm going to go ahead and open the two issues up and then we'll have general", "start": 3219.079, "end": 3225.64}, {"text": "public comment following this and specifically I would ask uh I don't know if you agree but I know", "start": 3225.64, "end": 3232.4}, {"text": "that we've used the Grand Haven community in the past as kind of a a a test for how well our emergency response", "start": 3232.4, "end": 3239.44}, {"text": "is they've been vocal and they're the largest community of its type in the area and there's a a resident here from", "start": 3239.44, "end": 3245.96}, {"text": "Grand Haven would you be willing to comment on the um uh results of the", "start": 3245.96, "end": 3251.72}, {"text": "storm and how well it was uh taken care of Mr Howen I put you on the spot I know", "start": 3251.72, "end": 3259.799}, {"text": "that I figure while we have you here we'll get some mileage out of you I didn't come prepared to no I know you so", "start": 3260.119, "end": 3266.76}, {"text": "I'm not looking for anything but just generally speaking you you have your you have your ear to the ground in that", "start": 3266.76, "end": 3272.64}, {"text": "particular Community how do we do I I don't I wasn't totally involved as I", "start": 3272.64, "end": 3278.68}, {"text": "used to be uh but just from a resident's perspective I think things seem to go", "start": 3278.68, "end": 3285.839}, {"text": "well I know we have a uh we have a an agreement with the city for Access", "start": 3285.839, "end": 3293.44}, {"text": "because of FEMA regulations I know that we have of uh a piggyback agreement on", "start": 3293.44, "end": 3298.799}, {"text": "some of the trash hauling uh we went ahead of some of the", "start": 3298.799, "end": 3304.68}, {"text": "uh I think City Crews and doing some things in our neighborhood which you know we're going", "start": 3304.68, "end": 3309.839}, {"text": "to we we maintain the streets so we are responsible for doing some things that", "start": 3309.839, "end": 3316.119}, {"text": "maybe some other residents aren't we went ahead and did those I don't know of", "start": 3316.119, "end": 3321.68}, {"text": "any real glitches with city services some people people may want their trash", "start": 3321.68, "end": 3328.16}, {"text": "picked up a little quicker than others but you know you can't always be first", "start": 3328.16, "end": 3333.2}, {"text": "and you can't always be there so no no major issues that I know of from a", "start": 3333.2, "end": 3338.839}, {"text": "personal standpoint I would just remind everybody that we we didn't lose some of", "start": 3338.839, "end": 3346.4}, {"text": "us lost electricity some of us didn't but because the TVs because a TV channel", "start": 3346.4, "end": 3352.72}, {"text": "particularly brigh house did not have power we were", "start": 3352.72, "end": 3358.16}, {"text": "without uh announcements from the city on TV for", "start": 3358.16, "end": 3363.24}, {"text": "probably two and a half days I think that caused a little little concern", "start": 3363.24, "end": 3369.079}, {"text": "about the trash pickup schedule okay because we just didn't know because and it wasn't a city problem it was a TV", "start": 3369.079, "end": 3375.76}, {"text": "problem right and in full transparency the other thing I really wanted to bring you up for is uh historically Grand", "start": 3375.76, "end": 3382.359}, {"text": "Haven has had one of the more active and robust CT team organizations in the", "start": 3382.359, "end": 3389.64}, {"text": "county so I want to give you a chance to just speak to to that I mean that's a a", "start": 3389.64, "end": 3397.119}, {"text": "really important citizen participation activity that could be used throughout", "start": 3397.119, "end": 3403.359}, {"text": "the entire Community certainly not confined to Grand Haven but everywhere in Flagler County yeah we have had for I", "start": 3403.359, "end": 3410.599}, {"text": "don't know how many years over 10 a very active Community Emergency Response Team", "start": 3410.599, "end": 3417.039}, {"text": "we developed a community emergency response plan which was cleared through", "start": 3417.039, "end": 3422.559}, {"text": "City and the county uh we have an incident command structure we have all", "start": 3422.559, "end": 3430.559}, {"text": "of these are volunteer people in Grand Haven but we have responded we didn't", "start": 3430.559, "end": 3436.72}, {"text": "really have much to do in this storm uh things were taken care of pretty quickly", "start": 3436.72, "end": 3442.2}, {"text": "and the Damage wasn't that big but we've got quite a few active people on that C", "start": 3442.2, "end": 3449}, {"text": "team and have responded many other storms and we've we've done planning", "start": 3449, "end": 3454.799}, {"text": "ahead as the city and the county have done and and developed programs and have", "start": 3454.799, "end": 3459.96}, {"text": "documentation to prepare for what we need to do to be the first boots on the", "start": 3459.96, "end": 3465.359}, {"text": "ground when maybe the city or the county can't get there so please thank them for their efforts in uh helping to uh secure", "start": 3465.359, "end": 3473.119}, {"text": "your community advance so sorry to bring you up there without preparation but I appreciate your comments May are there", "start": 3473.119, "end": 3478.92}, {"text": "any yes", "start": 3478.92, "end": 3481.52}, {"text": "ma'am Celia P since 91 in pal Coast okay I have first of all to appreciate all", "start": 3489.599, "end": 3495.92}, {"text": "the good things that were done after the hurricane some things were not done right and cons woman po just brought it", "start": 3495.92, "end": 3504.599}, {"text": "up um I am the President of my homeowners association and we watch for", "start": 3504.599, "end": 3509.68}, {"text": "our members as well and uh the ever first the first ever first ever debris", "start": 3509.68, "end": 3519.2}, {"text": "late three weeks almost for pick up the yard debris that", "start": 3519.2, "end": 3524.559}, {"text": "ruin the saw of those properties which are mainly owned by a lot of elderly", "start": 3524.559, "end": 3532.16}, {"text": "people wiow ladies that is one person in the house uh one of them got hurt trying to pile", "start": 3532.16, "end": 3539.64}, {"text": "up higher so her s would not die got hurt on her hand and she had to go to", "start": 3539.64, "end": 3546.24}, {"text": "the emergency uh for that so that cost her a lot uh why why if in the past with", "start": 3546.24, "end": 3555.2}, {"text": "other administrations they were paid waste management was paid the FEMA funds to", "start": 3555.2, "end": 3561.24}, {"text": "collect the debris and immediately within 3 days everything was collected", "start": 3561.24, "end": 3567.68}, {"text": "when we had that was not waste management excuse me waste Waste Pro Waste Pro uh the one after Waste", "start": 3567.68, "end": 3574.48}, {"text": "Management within the weekend was collected Waste Pro workers were working Saturday and Sunday collecting the", "start": 3574.48, "end": 3581.24}, {"text": "debris under the rain because the hurricane uh latest effect were rain and", "start": 3581.24, "end": 3586.44}, {"text": "it was very bad hurricane why didn't they pay FCC which is our regular", "start": 3586.44, "end": 3592.52}, {"text": "collection that comes every day and G give them the fima funds other than", "start": 3592.52, "end": 3598.24}, {"text": "going for one of those more City contracts that we have many that have failed us right including in Holland", "start": 3598.24, "end": 3605.64}, {"text": "Park why didn't they use our regular collector that come here every day you see this is why some people in this", "start": 3605.64, "end": 3613.28}, {"text": "Administration decided to use outside contractors the contractor that came and pick up my debris after so many weeks", "start": 3613.28, "end": 3620.039}, {"text": "you know what it was a contractor that is NN from this area was called Teo", "start": 3620.039, "end": 3626.319}, {"text": "Theos meaning Spanish ankles Theos uh debris removal okay I mean I looked them", "start": 3626.319, "end": 3633.079}, {"text": "up on the Internet they were nowhere to be found why the CD goes to these contractors that did not comply didn't", "start": 3633.079, "end": 3640.16}, {"text": "show up on the 16 did not comply on the 16 and showed up in I don't know a week", "start": 3640.16, "end": 3645.28}, {"text": "and a half two weeks later this is not good for us so not everything is flowers and I want to bring one other issue", "start": 3645.28, "end": 3651.88}, {"text": "given our our uh um uh Power lost we lost a citizen here in pomos is one of", "start": 3651.88, "end": 3660.119}, {"text": "the victims of the hurricane and this was a friend of ours since the year the since the the year 70s in New Jersey and", "start": 3660.119, "end": 3667.72}, {"text": "this is why we ended up in Palos and this gentleman Mr Nick tady he is the", "start": 3667.72, "end": 3673.72}, {"text": "father of a former Sheriff Deputy uh here in flag County so we had one victim", "start": 3673.72, "end": 3680.839}, {"text": "that was very dear to us because we lost the power and he had a a master falling", "start": 3680.839, "end": 3686.28}, {"text": "inside his house I don't ask for details and he ended up in the hospital and must", "start": 3686.28, "end": 3691.839}, {"text": "have a very bad fall and he was there fighting for his life five days so not everything is roses and I understand we", "start": 3691.839, "end": 3698.559}, {"text": "first to have to highlight roses but when there are uh errors made by the", "start": 3698.559, "end": 3704.68}, {"text": "administrators just let's be realistic about that okay it's not all R thank you for your comment uh any other members of", "start": 3704.68, "end": 3711.68}, {"text": "the public want to respond to the two presentations yes sir", "start": 3711.68, "end": 3717.44}, {"text": "Ed Fuller Palm Coast honorable mayor honorable city council men women uh", "start": 3718.68, "end": 3724.039}, {"text": "first of all I want to thank the citizens of Palm Coast the communication came out from Palm Coast to lower your", "start": 3724.039, "end": 3730}, {"text": "part your water usage you did you did you", "start": 3730, "end": 3735.319}, {"text": "complied that's pretty dog on good there was a reason for it it was a Thousand-Year storm we had event you", "start": 3735.319, "end": 3741.92}, {"text": "can't plan for that you cannot plan for that maybe that wasn't communicated but", "start": 3741.92, "end": 3747.119}, {"text": "I don't know how you communicate that you had a Thousand-Year store and rainfall that's impossible 50% of the uh", "start": 3747.119, "end": 3753.72}, {"text": "uh residents were up without power that means all probably one out of two of", "start": 3753.72, "end": 3758.88}, {"text": "every city employees were out without power as well as the citizens I find it amazing no one was injured or killed", "start": 3758.88, "end": 3765.72}, {"text": "that is an incredible record I am i' also find it amazing that no City employee was injured during that storm", "start": 3765.72, "end": 3772.48}, {"text": "or after that is amazing with all these power lines 50% of the power off there's", "start": 3772.48, "end": 3778.599}, {"text": "got to be an immense amount of power uh usage or lines down and hazardous uh", "start": 3778.599, "end": 3785.559}, {"text": "conditions and the other thing is and I don't know if you can do this but there are some gas stations that were down", "start": 3785.559, "end": 3792.96}, {"text": "they didn't have power do we require gas stations to have", "start": 3792.96, "end": 3798.48}, {"text": "an emergency generator to to keep uh keep those pumps going I don't know if you can but I think you know fuel is", "start": 3798.48, "end": 3806.559}, {"text": "very important during these situations that might be something uh to to look at", "start": 3806.559, "end": 3813.2}, {"text": "uh the communications I thought were great and I really want to thank all the cities of citizens of pal Coast you", "start": 3813.2, "end": 3818.52}, {"text": "mostly lose people after a storm because everybody wants to go out and look", "start": 3818.52, "end": 3823.72}, {"text": "around and take an assessment of your property and your neighbor's property that didn't happen here the curfew", "start": 3823.72, "end": 3830.64}, {"text": "worked that was that was amazing everyone complied and maybe it was an", "start": 3830.64, "end": 3837.359}, {"text": "inconvenience but you did get water uh the stores did a great job of", "start": 3837.359, "end": 3844.319}, {"text": "of staying open on a limited basis but I I I have to commend all the employees", "start": 3844.319, "end": 3850.119}, {"text": "here because I know they went out work and I don't know what they did for food", "start": 3850.119, "end": 3855.319}, {"text": "but they lost power they came home and maybe they didn't get any meals I don't know but I know that they went out there", "start": 3855.319, "end": 3861.72}, {"text": "and and did a great job so those are some of the suggestions I would make about the power and the in the service", "start": 3861.72, "end": 3867.4}, {"text": "stations because that's an integral part of uh keeping people moving and I want to thank all the employees all the", "start": 3867.4, "end": 3872.839}, {"text": "citizens for your cooperation it takes unanimity to keep uh a situation like", "start": 3872.839, "end": 3879.2}, {"text": "this under control and come out on the other end thank you and God bless all you all your employees and all our", "start": 3879.2, "end": 3884.52}, {"text": "citizens we have a great country thank you thank you for your comment anyone else yes", "start": 3884.52, "end": 3890.279}, {"text": "ma'am I'm going back to the last presentation is that okay yeah uh either yeah either one of those two", "start": 3891.92, "end": 3897.599}, {"text": "presentations yes and then we'll have general public comment following uh this okay my name is Mindy Melendez I'm the", "start": 3897.599, "end": 3904.359}, {"text": "reason the color um and on June 19th the council asked the staff to go back and", "start": 3904.359, "end": 3910.119}, {"text": "look at the color palette they brought it to the board on September 10th but they added the other colors not the", "start": 3910.119, "end": 3916.76}, {"text": "colors according to my house so they went one way but not the other don't", "start": 3916.76, "end": 3921.799}, {"text": "know why nobody asked um so they went from 80 to 65 but they did not bring it down from 25 to 10 totally different um", "start": 3921.799, "end": 3930.96}, {"text": "I was unaware of the one the planning board meeting but I did go to the beautification meeting on September 25th", "start": 3930.96, "end": 3937.119}, {"text": "and they did say they wanted to allow all colors they even talked about doing away with it they wanted to go back to", "start": 3937.119, "end": 3942.4}, {"text": "the community I did go out and get a petition I have um two different petitions one online and one paper and", "start": 3942.4, "end": 3949.079}, {"text": "there's over 200 people that think that we should relook at all the colors um I", "start": 3949.079, "end": 3955.24}, {"text": "found in the last two weeks two brand new builds that were", "start": 3955.24, "end": 3961.48}, {"text": "approved dark colors um brand new", "start": 3961.48, "end": 3968.24}, {"text": "builds with the approvals um selective enforcement is", "start": 3968.24, "end": 3973.48}, {"text": "illegal in the state of Florida according to Florida State Statute 720 that is to be recorded none of our", "start": 3973.48, "end": 3980.44}, {"text": "ordinance are recorded I could not find them I looked them up um so HOAs arounds", "start": 3980.44, "end": 3987.119}, {"text": "like you we have all seen in presentations they allow the color the darker colors of the houses um and the", "start": 3987.119, "end": 3994.72}, {"text": "HOAs are in ordinance of Palm Coast so how can an HOA allow a darker color but", "start": 3994.72, "end": 4000.92}, {"text": "yet Palm Coast cannot um the city does go out and sign", "start": 4000.92, "end": 4006.76}, {"text": "off multiple times on these new builds and I get that it may not be their job", "start": 4006.76, "end": 4012.48}, {"text": "so then why don't you put somebody in place that says okay in order to get the CO the color has to ACC coordinate to", "start": 4012.48, "end": 4018.52}, {"text": "what is being on there the Florida statue", "start": 4018.52, "end": 4023.4}, {"text": "enforcement is illegal and these are all darker color", "start": 4045.599, "end": 4051.599}, {"text": "homes but my home is the only one of the darker color because somebody complained", "start": 4051.599, "end": 4056.76}, {"text": "somebody didn't like it my neighbor said that he was just asking about my house color he wasn't complaining about my", "start": 4056.76, "end": 4062.52}, {"text": "house color so that's just where I'm coming from thank you thank you will you did", "start": 4062.52, "end": 4069.799}, {"text": "you want to leave that information with the clerk so that we have it no I am not doing the city's job that because okay", "start": 4069.799, "end": 4076.799}, {"text": "very good very good um any other uh comments mror hold on I've got somebody", "start": 4076.799, "end": 4085.079}, {"text": "here good morning Jeremy Davis P", "start": 4085.44, "end": 4090.24}, {"text": "action thank you fire department for y'all's response um however I'm one of", "start": 4091.079, "end": 4096.88}, {"text": "the homes that had water intrusion due to mismanagement of the city um I find", "start": 4096.88, "end": 4103.318}, {"text": "it still I'm still waiting for a response I emailed y'all yesterday still", "start": 4103.319, "end": 4108.719}, {"text": "waiting on the update from the meeting we had the private meeting we had", "start": 4108.719, "end": 4114.359}, {"text": "um which is another thing uh that lady just brought up uh code enforcement", "start": 4114.359, "end": 4121.318}, {"text": "there zero zero accountability in this city zero no one has had has been held", "start": 4121.319, "end": 4128.318}, {"text": "accountable for what has happened to me not one", "start": 4128.319, "end": 4134.04}, {"text": "person I know everyone who has signed off on that property somebody needs to be held", "start": 4134.04, "end": 4140.6}, {"text": "accountable this is the lack of the accountability in this city has gone on", "start": 4140.6, "end": 4145.679}, {"text": "for far too long this gentlemen thank y'all for doing a great job saying the city's", "start": 4145.679, "end": 4152.96}, {"text": "doing a wonderful job unfortunately his house didn't get water intrusion unfortunately he hasn't been fighting", "start": 4152.96, "end": 4158.52}, {"text": "the city for over a year and a half because y'all allowed an infield lot to be 4 foot higher than", "start": 4158.52, "end": 4164.359}, {"text": "me none of y'all have had that affected to you because you don't care that if", "start": 4164.359, "end": 4170.318}, {"text": "you cared you would have been affected by it but it doesn't affect you you live in Grand Haven that's why you smile at", "start": 4170.319, "end": 4176.838}, {"text": "me as I talk it it is ridiculous how you sit up there and look at the residents in here", "start": 4176.839, "end": 4184.719}, {"text": "y'all work for us we pay the taxes here y'all have really forgotten that", "start": 4184.719, "end": 4191.719}, {"text": "you're the public servants and think you can just do whatever the hell you damn", "start": 4191.719, "end": 4198}, {"text": "Please Lady shouldn't have to come up here and beg because her house looks great nothing wrong with her house but", "start": 4198, "end": 4204.92}, {"text": "y'all are making that a big deal but yet we sign off on properties that are way", "start": 4204.92, "end": 4210.04}, {"text": "more higher I was just at a house the other day and the guy was so worried about the new house next to him and then", "start": 4210.04, "end": 4216.36}, {"text": "I showed him my house and he was like holy I'm glad I'm not you now that's funny I deal with that every day", "start": 4216.36, "end": 4225.04}, {"text": "not none of you maybe you because I email you quite often but this is ridiculous I still", "start": 4225.04, "end": 4232.76}, {"text": "should not have to sit here and beg I shouldn't even have to sue the city because I would end up suing myself that", "start": 4232.76, "end": 4240.04}, {"text": "is stupid I shouldn't Sue any of these taxpayers because y'all made simple", "start": 4240.04, "end": 4246.159}, {"text": "mistakes I guess I could go civil and go that route but then I would have to", "start": 4246.159, "end": 4251.76}, {"text": "waste more of y'all's time just like y'all are wasting mine it's ridiculous what y'all have done and I'm tired of it", "start": 4251.76, "end": 4259.199}, {"text": "somebody needs to be held accountable and I'm ready to start seeing that happen thank you either there yes ma'am", "start": 4259.199, "end": 4266.36}, {"text": "you only allow me to speak minutes for one of the two items I have to say something about the first I I I there", "start": 4266.36, "end": 4272.28}, {"text": "were two different items come on syia come", "start": 4272.28, "end": 4276.08}, {"text": "on first of all I want to say that our CT enforcement department have been", "start": 4282.44, "end": 4288.84}, {"text": "always that I've seen them since 91 very fair in general in the city and they do", "start": 4288.84, "end": 4295.48}, {"text": "a great job the the colors that though I was not here um that they were proposed", "start": 4295.48, "end": 4301.6}, {"text": "they are all within the acceptable range of colors in General on the city which", "start": 4301.6, "end": 4307.28}, {"text": "uh most people uh agree of uh we had a neighbor in our a few years ago in our", "start": 4307.28, "end": 4313.8}, {"text": "HOA uh that that he painted his house in that type of light blue color and uh he", "start": 4313.8, "end": 4320.6}, {"text": "had to go and change the color he was 2/3 into painting and he had to change", "start": 4320.6, "end": 4326.92}, {"text": "his color so they should not be um uh exclusive or whatever different uh uh", "start": 4326.92, "end": 4334.199}, {"text": "enforcements and I agree with uh the chief of Court enforcement uh one other", "start": 4334.199, "end": 4339.8}, {"text": "thing that I have to say is please don't blame Court enforcement for flooded homes not inspected uh because it's not", "start": 4339.8, "end": 4348.04}, {"text": "the work of Court enforcement I believe that this the work of another city uh", "start": 4348.04, "end": 4353.88}, {"text": "Department which is Building Inspections and no court enforcement I don't believe court enforcement it is uh to enforce", "start": 4353.88, "end": 4362.28}, {"text": "the problems of flooded yards or flooded houses that is the building department and uh this is what I defend defend our", "start": 4362.28, "end": 4369.92}, {"text": "court enforcement because it's an excellent Department that is fair to all of us and it what uh keeps our city", "start": 4369.92, "end": 4378}, {"text": "beautiful and it's one of those departments we need to uh to uh defend", "start": 4378, "end": 4384.4}, {"text": "and definitely the council needs to do something for our flooded residents", "start": 4384.4, "end": 4390.4}, {"text": "because we had ordinance number", "start": 4390.4, "end": 4395.04}, {"text": "24156 D that is stated very clearly that when in the survey the city manager or", "start": 4395.48, "end": 4402.48}, {"text": "the S has to inspect that the grading of the lot is not going to affect a", "start": 4402.48, "end": 4409.08}, {"text": "neighbor so that I believe was not done and this is what the city needs to", "start": 4409.08, "end": 4414.6}, {"text": "resolve because to me that issue is the responsibility of the Builder of that", "start": 4414.6, "end": 4421.08}, {"text": "higher lot and not the responsibility of the affected resident not the", "start": 4421.08, "end": 4426.6}, {"text": "responsibility of taxpayers paying for that but is the responsibility of the city that should have", "start": 4426.6, "end": 4432.84}, {"text": "enforced 1241 56 the ordinance of the city of Palos thank you thank you any", "start": 4432.84, "end": 4440.4}, {"text": "other members of the public like to comment on the two presentations given so far all right with that um let me come", "start": 4440.4, "end": 4447.4}, {"text": "back to the deis um Steph did you want to make any comment um just uh mayor", "start": 4447.4, "end": 4454.6}, {"text": "city council if you wouldd like an update on debris I have that yeah please okay so this is um as of uh last night", "start": 4454.6, "end": 4463.679}, {"text": "um we've collected 15,197 cubic yards of vegetative debris", "start": 4463.679, "end": 4470.08}, {"text": "um that was 854 loads of debris uh this", "start": 4470.08, "end": 4475.56}, {"text": "week we're working in the W and P sections and uh there's uh one one", "start": 4475.56, "end": 4482.04}, {"text": "Street in the um uh in the B section to finish up as well and um Public Works", "start": 4482.04, "end": 4488.719}, {"text": "forecast that they'll finish the first pass by this weekend and then um", "start": 4488.719, "end": 4495.56}, {"text": "uh public work staff and codee staff have been noting construction debris uh", "start": 4495.56, "end": 4501.4}, {"text": "areas that you know where some construction debris needs to be picked up and that'll be picked uh uh starting", "start": 4501.4, "end": 4506.719}, {"text": "next week uh there'll be another sweep of that stuff okay and and I would just ask at at some future date if you have", "start": 4506.719, "end": 4513.76}, {"text": "an opportunity to give a a a brief but correct um", "start": 4513.76, "end": 4520.639}, {"text": "informational discussion on what FEMA dollars are used how they used and the", "start": 4520.639, "end": 4526.36}, {"text": "timeline versus what our contractual obligation with our regular uh Solid Waste hauler is so there's no confusion", "start": 4526.36, "end": 4533.52}, {"text": "between the two the the the concept gets batted around quite a bit so if you", "start": 4533.52, "end": 4538.719}, {"text": "could perhaps clarify that in a future presentation I think the public would would would would like to know that yes", "start": 4538.719, "end": 4545.719}, {"text": "thank you for that sir you're right there it's a federal program so it's heavily regulated there's a lot of rules to follow and you know we keep we follow", "start": 4545.719, "end": 4553.04}, {"text": "all those rules to ensure that we get the max maimum amount recovered y uh additional comments from City coun yes I", "start": 4553.04, "end": 4560.28}, {"text": "was I was just going to uh also comment about the street pickup uh debris in our previous storms I just didn't want the", "start": 4560.28, "end": 4565.44}, {"text": "picture to be Mis painted that our previous storms Irma and uh Matthew I mean how long did that debris take I", "start": 4565.44, "end": 4571.88}, {"text": "mean it was weeks right I mean it could have even been potentially longer than that so historically this has been an issue with most major hurricanes that", "start": 4571.88, "end": 4578.4}, {"text": "move across the State of Florida is that unfortunately somebody else gets really trampled and then everybody goes to flea", "start": 4578.4, "end": 4584.199}, {"text": "uh to you know Farm there because it's better better pastures but the city of pp Coast historically has had the same", "start": 4584.199, "end": 4590.48}, {"text": "issue that was presented today where it's hard to get hollers but uh during Matthew and Irma we were waiting weeks", "start": 4590.48, "end": 4595.8}, {"text": "upwards of a month to have uh stor debris removed so I just wanted that for future Council to know what the past", "start": 4595.8, "end": 4601.8}, {"text": "really entailed there then also uh are HOAs allowed to have a super set of the color", "start": 4601.8, "end": 4607.52}, {"text": "rules um well I think maybe HOA was used in the general term but um some", "start": 4607.52, "end": 4615}, {"text": "development orders uh allow uh other uh architectural guidelines right so that", "start": 4615, "end": 4620.84}, {"text": "may be a little bit of a confusion there with the term HOA got it thank you", "start": 4620.84, "end": 4627.44}, {"text": "councilman uh Jason and I think Council woman pontier kind of alluded to this and you know some of the legal teeth", "start": 4627.44, "end": 4634.12}, {"text": "that we may need to look at going forward but for for the public can you please tell us the why there was the", "start": 4634.12, "end": 4640.84}, {"text": "delay explain to to everybody who's listening why the stuff is still sitting", "start": 4640.84, "end": 4646.28}, {"text": "on the streets yes sir um well we have a contract with an", "start": 4646.28, "end": 4653.719}, {"text": "outside uh provider to do a debris pickup right so they come in and they do an evaluation of the city and they kind", "start": 4653.719, "end": 4661.28}, {"text": "of estimate how much they think they're going to pick up then they use that plus", "start": 4661.28, "end": 4667.56}, {"text": "their um the negotiated price and we have a very low negotiated price in our contract currently uh as you mentioned", "start": 4667.56, "end": 4675.48}, {"text": "and decide how much resources to send to our community to compare to other", "start": 4675.48, "end": 4680.76}, {"text": "communities so that that's step one in the evaluation then you want a little bit of time for folks to have an", "start": 4680.76, "end": 4687.639}, {"text": "opportunity to clean up their yard so there's not multiple passes particularly when you're dealing with um", "start": 4687.639, "end": 4693.84}, {"text": "fewer uh fewer equipment in the in the neighborhoods right so we have a little bit of a delay so folks can get their", "start": 4693.84, "end": 4700.36}, {"text": "yard debris out to the out to the street so we can pick up most of it in a single", "start": 4700.36, "end": 4705.84}, {"text": "pass um I don't know how deep you'd like me to go but then there's also the I guess my question is did the contractor", "start": 4705.84, "end": 4712.04}, {"text": "fail the people of the city of Palm Coast yes or no uh I would say yes the", "start": 4712.04, "end": 4717.199}, {"text": "answer is yes okay um because they went to other communities where they would make more money and that's where I said", "start": 4717.199, "end": 4722.44}, {"text": "we need teeth yeah I agree but what was the name of the contractor it's", "start": 4722.44, "end": 4730.08}, {"text": "DRC yes I'm giving a thumbs up DRC Okay so DRC DRC failed the the the", "start": 4730.08, "end": 4738.239}, {"text": "citizens of Palm Coast okay I just want to make sure that's public so that going forward uh you know we we do our best", "start": 4738.239, "end": 4745.88}, {"text": "not to select this company failure is not an option right there so okay thank", "start": 4745.88, "end": 4752}, {"text": "you and I would only add to that so uh when we talk about teeth and I totally agree but does that equate to", "start": 4752, "end": 4759.32}, {"text": "Dollars yeah so just so there's no you know setting the bar here if you want", "start": 4759.32, "end": 4765}, {"text": "better is going to cost more um which is you know that that's just a fact of life", "start": 4765, "end": 4770.8}, {"text": "and if that is what and I think we all agree is most important because it's", "start": 4770.8, "end": 4777.08}, {"text": "affecting people's you know lives post storm and everything else then then we have to be willing to pay for it okay", "start": 4777.08, "end": 4783.32}, {"text": "yes and mayor that's a delicate balance as well because if if you're not um if", "start": 4783.32, "end": 4789.239}, {"text": "the county doesn't get authorized for that type of reimbursement you're on the hook for it right so you need to manage", "start": 4789.239, "end": 4794.92}, {"text": "that cost as well because you may want to clear the streets using that contract to do it quickly uh quicker um however", "start": 4794.92, "end": 4803.4}, {"text": "if that's not reimbursable in the end by FEMA you're you're it's on your dime right so we got to manage that but I", "start": 4803.4, "end": 4810.679}, {"text": "appreciate your comment and and and you know have to build in The Leverage so", "start": 4810.679, "end": 4815.719}, {"text": "even though we are growing we're still maybe not the biggest uh you know um", "start": 4815.719, "end": 4822.12}, {"text": "business in the region and we have to find a way to build that relationship so", "start": 4822.12, "end": 4827.6}, {"text": "we are a priority for them or whoever it may be um very very important I agree", "start": 4827.6, "end": 4833.32}, {"text": "okay good just have one more um comment um just with regards to the house colors", "start": 4833.32, "end": 4839.52}, {"text": "um want to make sure if if we could get the addresses um Mindy to code", "start": 4839.52, "end": 4845.4}, {"text": "enforcement that you were talking about I will not do that okay well I I I think", "start": 4845.4, "end": 4850.8}, {"text": "you know if if we want to make sure there's not selective enforcement I'm trying to be the part of a solution here", "start": 4850.8, "end": 4856}, {"text": "um chapter 720 in the Florida Statutes is specifically to HOAs so while the", "start": 4856, "end": 4862.159}, {"text": "city should not be engaging in any type of selective enforcement we are not bound by chapter 724 statutes so what I", "start": 4862.159, "end": 4868.44}, {"text": "do want to make sure of though um and this is just to our code enforcement division let's just make sure we're applying the laws um evenly I think we", "start": 4868.44, "end": 4875.84}, {"text": "do but um just want to Let's re at that absolutely uh correct so there no selective uh uh enforcement of any kind", "start": 4875.84, "end": 4883.239}, {"text": "very good appreciate that all right um with that we will move forward if there are no other city council comments", "start": 4883.239, "end": 4889.639}, {"text": "councelor any comments good so we'll move now to public participation and if", "start": 4889.639, "end": 4895.8}, {"text": "I may I was I I have one uh one pres", "start": 4895.8, "end": 4901.28}, {"text": "public participation presentation if we could just get that done that would be I appreciate your patience just for a", "start": 4901.28, "end": 4906.44}, {"text": "minute and I'll get i'll get to everyone I promise yes sir please introduce", "start": 4906.44, "end": 4912.6}, {"text": "yourself Mr Grand Marshall uh Randy St I'm the commissioner for the Florida Inland navigation district for uh", "start": 4912.6, "end": 4919.44}, {"text": "Flagler County and uh I wanted to come here today because this is the final session you folks will be here for most", "start": 4919.44, "end": 4925.48}, {"text": "for many of you but uh there are three uh grants that you had approved and that", "start": 4925.48, "end": 4931.52}, {"text": "had been presented and has not been presented to the uh the city yet the money at least and I wanted to call out", "start": 4931.52, "end": 4939.239}, {"text": "uh three people that were responsible in making the presentations to our commission down in Coco Beach and so", "start": 4939.239, "end": 4947.04}, {"text": "although this money will be forthcoming uh there was a lot of work that went into the preparation of the uh the", "start": 4947.04, "end": 4952.679}, {"text": "speeches and the presentations they gave and so the first time the first person", "start": 4952.679, "end": 4957.719}, {"text": "I'd like to call out here in the three minutes or or I have is uh regarding the", "start": 4957.719, "end": 4962.96}, {"text": "Waterway cleanup that uh so far it's on that 17th year uh we've given", "start": 4962.96, "end": 4968.679}, {"text": "$85,000 to the city of Palm Coast for this this last time was 5,000 and you", "start": 4968.679, "end": 4973.84}, {"text": "have a new that had the responsibility to put this cleanup together it's not easy to do to Rally the people together", "start": 4973.84, "end": 4980.44}, {"text": "all over the community to come in pick up the garbage and the debris around the Waterway and they did an amazing job and", "start": 4980.44, "end": 4986.92}, {"text": "I want to call out to Alisa Rosco I think she is behind me somewhere", "start": 4986.92, "end": 4993.44}, {"text": "Alisa now Lisa did an amazing thing and I know it was met that particular day I", "start": 4996.48, "end": 5001.84}, {"text": "think several of you came down with covid on unfortunately but what she did bring back that rallied the Girl Scouts", "start": 5001.84, "end": 5008.92}, {"text": "the Boy Scouts and everybody that came and participated was an amazing amount of barbecuing of hot dogs that were", "start": 5008.92, "end": 5015.56}, {"text": "really good that really rallied a lot of people that came in and enjoyed the uh the", "start": 5015.56, "end": 5021.08}, {"text": "event we have a best find something that is found that is considered and voted", "start": 5021.08, "end": 5026.719}, {"text": "upon as the most unique find and it was a uh important find it was a lawn mower", "start": 5026.719, "end": 5032.56}, {"text": "that was along the uh the coast inter Coastal waterway that was filled with gasoline and now you all know what", "start": 5032.56, "end": 5039.239}, {"text": "happens if that gets into the Waterway it's going to go forever so that was an important Discovery we got it out before", "start": 5039.239, "end": 5045.36}, {"text": "it did some damage to our Waterway so I uh shout out again to Lisa well done", "start": 5045.36, "end": 5050.639}, {"text": "look forward to next year even more trash to be picked up this year was about 1,00", "start": 5050.639, "end": 5056.08}, {"text": "lb next uh in 20123 the uh the board the council had", "start": 5056.08, "end": 5062.48}, {"text": "approved a grant to come 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"James so the the next presentation was in 2024 last year and uh in October of", "start": 5114.679, "end": 5122.28}, {"text": "this year the board R the uh the briefing and that briefing was done by", "start": 5122.28, "end": 5129.159}, {"text": "Eric gios right over here the uh architect of it who designed another", "start": 5129.159, "end": 5134.88}, {"text": "portion the secondary portion which includes the uh Pavilion and that was for $300,000 grant that was met with", "start": 5134.88, "end": 5143.4}, {"text": "great thumbs up and so I want to say Eric to your presentation over here please stand up $300,000", "start": 5143.4, "end": 5149.93}, {"text": "[Applause]", "start": 5149.93, "end": 5155.32}, {"text": "so all in all I have a check not ready to be presented but ready to be accepted", "start": 5155.32, "end": 5162.48}, {"text": "by the city council at a later date when you all decide uh Chief of Staff when that moment might be for", "start": 5162.48, "end": 5171.36}, {"text": "$586,000 so I'm proud to present this Randy come on up here so I can", "start": 5171.36, "end": 5177.639}, {"text": "shake your hand and we'll get a picture come on and also each of the uh come on up James James Eric", "start": 5177.639, "end": 5186.239}, {"text": "last eight years you've been tremendous thank you for everything for Steve thank you your impact will last forever in", "start": 5190.92, "end": 5200}, {"text": "pumpcast I've sent checks too without the", "start": 5201.84, "end": 5206}, {"text": "day yeah that's what I was thinking that would be better yeah", "start": 5210.639, "end": 5216.239}, {"text": "perfect there you go I'll cash it", "start": 5216.4, "end": 5221.28}, {"text": "though thank you each for [Applause]", "start": 5221.6, "end": 5229.56}, {"text": "all thank you for your patience um we're in public comment now um there's one", "start": 5229.56, "end": 5235.28}, {"text": "lady I don't okay yes sir Mr McDonald", "start": 5235.28, "end": 5240.559}, {"text": "all right Robin McDonald Palm Coast um I've been real sick and uh so I", "start": 5247.239, "end": 5257.199}, {"text": "haven't been here in a while but I missed it and uh I was told to behave myself", "start": 5257.199, "end": 5265.76}, {"text": "and don't get upset so I'm going to try to do both um a while back I don't remember", "start": 5265.76, "end": 5273.96}, {"text": "how how long ago it was but we celebrated our U", "start": 5273.96, "end": 5280.719}, {"text": "25th anniversary of the city and they had a big shenan big party going on and", "start": 5280.719, "end": 5288.88}, {"text": "unfortunately uh it was one of the few times I listened to the doctors and I had to stay", "start": 5288.88, "end": 5295.199}, {"text": "home um but friend of B came and the reason", "start": 5295.199, "end": 5301.04}, {"text": "I made it here today because because I didn't want to the thought of my thought", "start": 5301.04, "end": 5308.239}, {"text": "to disappear um friends of ours came who don't live", "start": 5308.239, "end": 5315.119}, {"text": "in Palm Coast and we uh we bragged about the", "start": 5315.119, "end": 5321.6}, {"text": "city and uh but when these friends of us came to this event over here in town", "start": 5321.6, "end": 5329.6}, {"text": "center they got charged $10 person", "start": 5329.6, "end": 5334.639}, {"text": "to walk in the door why why should we have to pay to", "start": 5334.639, "end": 5344.92}, {"text": "celebrate our celebration I'm losing here um so", "start": 5345.4, "end": 5352.76}, {"text": "maybe uh somebody can take me on a side and explain to me why we", "start": 5352.76, "end": 5361.52}, {"text": "charged and these people had four kids a husband and a wife that's sick people so", "start": 5361.52, "end": 5368.639}, {"text": "they get charged $60 to walk into this park why this is a", "start": 5368.639, "end": 5376.8}, {"text": "celebration you don't charge people for this this should have been a free this should have been", "start": 5376.8, "end": 5382.08}, {"text": "free okay we spend more money on stupid things than you can shake a stick at in", "start": 5382.08, "end": 5390.48}, {"text": "fact prior to the meeting tonight to this meeting today I talk to a city employee who I won't", "start": 5390.48, "end": 5397.08}, {"text": "mention their name and I questioned n years I've been", "start": 5397.08, "end": 5403.679}, {"text": "coming every year at Christmas time to see the tree lighting", "start": 5403.679, "end": 5408.719}, {"text": "ceremony well if you're from here to where the May is sitting away from", "start": 5408.719, "end": 5415.32}, {"text": "flipping the switch you can't hear anything and I've been telling the mayor", "start": 5415.32, "end": 5421.56}, {"text": "and telling the previous administration that we have to do something about the", "start": 5421.56, "end": 5429.719}, {"text": "PA system why we don't charge for that but", "start": 5429.719, "end": 5436.119}, {"text": "yet we CH we charge people $60 people turned around said I'm not", "start": 5436.119, "end": 5441.88}, {"text": "paying $60 I don't even live here now my time is up but that's okay that's okay", "start": 5441.88, "end": 5449.96}, {"text": "and I kept my word that I'm not going to be upset but one more comment and then I I", "start": 5449.96, "end": 5457}, {"text": "promise I'm going to sit down Mr", "start": 5457, "end": 5463.08}, {"text": "Kus we're going to miss you we're going to miss you too don't be a stranger won be I got a seated empty one seat for", "start": 5463.08, "end": 5471.32}, {"text": "you one seat for the mayor okay and I got one more seat", "start": 5471.32, "end": 5478.199}, {"text": "left right there right there CU nobody nobody", "start": 5478.199, "end": 5484.96}, {"text": "yeah okay nobody has got in the N9 years that I've lived here nobody has ever taken on", "start": 5484.96, "end": 5493.4}, {"text": "the mayor head to head like that man right there don't you", "start": 5493.4, "end": 5500.199}, {"text": "dare become a stranger don't you dare cuz I got a seat for you I'll be", "start": 5500.199, "end": 5505.719}, {"text": "happy to okay thank you for your com McDonald and I'll follow up with you on the uh 25th anniversary question I'll do", "start": 5505.719, "end": 5512.96}, {"text": "that personally next speaker please and if you would just introduce", "start": 5512.96, "end": 5518.56}, {"text": "yourself for us Kathy SARS Palm Coast um first I want to thank those that are", "start": 5518.56, "end": 5525.56}, {"text": "going and those that are coming and those that are staying here for um the", "start": 5525.56, "end": 5532.28}, {"text": "cause of the red shirt Group which we know um are here about a shelter and the", "start": 5532.28, "end": 5538.92}, {"text": "shelter that is and the soon to come shelter that will be um yesterday was", "start": 5538.92, "end": 5546.48}, {"text": "Veterans Day we honored all the veterans and I'd like to personally thank every", "start": 5546.48, "end": 5552}, {"text": "man and woman that's um been in the service or helped in any way I'd also", "start": 5552, "end": 5557.6}, {"text": "like to thank our K9 Warriors I was very I don't turn the TV", "start": 5557.6, "end": 5563}, {"text": "on very much but I turned it on yesterday and I was really happy to see", "start": 5563, "end": 5569.04}, {"text": "that our local Jackson uh station the First Coast TV they had a", "start": 5569.04, "end": 5574.96}, {"text": "ton uh k9 for warriors in the matter of hours I don't know how long they were on", "start": 5574.96, "end": 5581.44}, {"text": "they raised over 1.2 million for the k9 for warriors it takes over two years to", "start": 5581.44, "end": 5588.04}, {"text": "train a dog to be a a a companion for", "start": 5588.04, "end": 5593.28}, {"text": "our soldiers and they save a lot of soldiers you know a lot of them um have", "start": 5593.28, "end": 5599.6}, {"text": "ill thoughts and these Kines just Sav so many lives so they should be awarded", "start": 5599.6, "end": 5608.199}, {"text": "too so getting to our only shelter that we have here they Des the animals", "start": 5608.199, "end": 5614.48}, {"text": "deserve better and like I said it's it's not a matter of if but it's a matter of", "start": 5614.48, "end": 5620.92}, {"text": "when we have a municipal shelter so I'm begging and playing from the red group", "start": 5620.92, "end": 5626.92}, {"text": "red t-shirt group too please designate or think about designating some land for", "start": 5626.92, "end": 5633.52}, {"text": "the shelter that's the first thing to do there was Acres nine acres that a", "start": 5633.52, "end": 5639.679}, {"text": "builder swapped for500 some thousand you know I know it wasn't the", "start": 5639.679, "end": 5646.679}, {"text": "place to build a shelter but why couldn't they have bought land where it's appropriate for a shelter and I'm", "start": 5646.679, "end": 5654.32}, {"text": "really sad that um there was between the city and county meeting that was about", "start": 5654.32, "end": 5660.28}, {"text": "our current shelter here and they had lost a board member and they discussed", "start": 5660.28, "end": 5666.36}, {"text": "about putting someone from the commission of the city or county on because it's was funded or estimated", "start": 5666.36, "end": 5674}, {"text": "about $384,000 of the citizens taxes are going to that current", "start": 5674, "end": 5680.36}, {"text": "shelter and last year they", "start": 5680.36, "end": 5686.04}, {"text": "killed 14 145 animals they don't deserve", "start": 5686.36, "end": 5691.639}, {"text": "to die okay one time I was there and two men came in and they adopted two dogs", "start": 5691.639, "end": 5697.84}, {"text": "for these can9 Warriors which was wonderful and I think we can just do more because our animals deserve better", "start": 5697.84, "end": 5705.56}, {"text": "thank you thank you for your comment uh are there any other members of the public that would like to uh address us", "start": 5705.56, "end": 5711.36}, {"text": "at this time yes sir Mark stanel 7 o Woods um I just want", "start": 5711.36, "end": 5718.44}, {"text": "to give my gratitude and appreciation to this city council uh a few years ago", "start": 5718.44, "end": 5723.76}, {"text": "when I moved here I decided to get involved because I became passionate about this city I moved here because I", "start": 5723.76, "end": 5730.84}, {"text": "thought this was a great place to come and I still feel that way and you have", "start": 5730.84, "end": 5736.52}, {"text": "uh you graced me with the opportunity to be on the citizens advisory committee that was first and then that wasn't", "start": 5736.52, "end": 5742.88}, {"text": "enough then you allowed me to uh get on the code enforcement board which was a", "start": 5742.88, "end": 5748.4}, {"text": "blast but you know I'm I'm in a better place now on the planning board which is", "start": 5748.4, "end": 5753.639}, {"text": "is where I wanted to start in the first place but I appreciate all the opportunities that you've given me and I", "start": 5753.639, "end": 5760.44}, {"text": "just want you to know from bottom of my heart I appreciate it uh thank you very much thank you we hope we'll share that", "start": 5760.44, "end": 5766.32}, {"text": "with as many new residents especially as you possibly can so thank you well it's the citizens of Academy absolutely", "start": 5766.32, "end": 5774.119}, {"text": "exactly alumni very good next speaker", "start": 5774.119, "end": 5778.56}, {"text": "please good morning and feisty this morning andna Mar long", "start": 5782.32, "end": 5788.48}, {"text": "Flagler HBA and resident of Indian Trails um I'm here this morning because there is so much to complain", "start": 5788.48, "end": 5796.32}, {"text": "about but not here and that's my point I'm so tired of", "start": 5796.32, "end": 5803.08}, {"text": "hearing the complaints when there's so much to be grateful for in pal Coast because I've been thinking um through", "start": 5803.08, "end": 5810.32}, {"text": "all the negativity that we hear that when I leave my house each day I drive", "start": 5810.32, "end": 5815.44}, {"text": "down Belair and then I drive down Palm Coast Parkway typically and I see our", "start": 5815.44, "end": 5820.84}, {"text": "city employees out I see them keeping our city beautiful and clean um I", "start": 5820.84, "end": 5827.08}, {"text": "noticed After the Storm it was almost as though it hadn't come through on the main thorough ways um having to drive", "start": 5827.08, "end": 5833.639}, {"text": "down to the radio station to record and I was so impressed um I see our", "start": 5833.639, "end": 5840.28}, {"text": "Sheriff's Department keeping our roadways safe I drove through so many", "start": 5840.28, "end": 5845.6}, {"text": "school zones this morning going to the Future Builders of America meeting first and then coming here down Bel and a cop", "start": 5845.6, "end": 5853.8}, {"text": "just saw the guy and he said no you come here you're not going to speed and hurt any of our kids um I saw what councilman", "start": 5853.8, "end": 5861}, {"text": "pontier your efforts in getting the sports complex area going one way um I", "start": 5861, "end": 5867.76}, {"text": "saw what our city staff did during Hurricane Milton I saw what our residents did working together and our", "start": 5867.76, "end": 5874.04}, {"text": "city spilled zero gallons of Wastewater which is incredible because the headlines across Florida were horrifying", "start": 5874.04, "end": 5881.239}, {"text": "of how much waste water was even in people's homes and how many people are", "start": 5881.239, "end": 5886.639}, {"text": "still suffering with with waste water that's sewage in their homes", "start": 5886.639, "end": 5893.08}, {"text": "um that just not to say that no one has a right to complain it's okay to not be happy with", 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"our issues which are not all most issues are very few but we try with our issues", "start": 5999.4, "end": 6006.32}, {"text": "to be resolved to keep the beautiful quality of life that we moved here for", "start": 6006.32, "end": 6011.639}, {"text": "in such a long time so it should be taken as something positive and know that we have to come here and complain", "start": 6011.639, "end": 6018.639}, {"text": "because after all it's our first amendment as well I am also coming here to support the need of a municipal", "start": 6018.639, "end": 6028.159}, {"text": "shelter for the lives of our animals in this growing city we are having a more", "start": 6028.159, "end": 6035.719}, {"text": "uh need press more pressure to have a municipal shelter where the lives of our", "start": 6035.719, "end": 6042.36}, {"text": "dogs are going to be taken away in the in the terrible amount that are taken away and there will be more space and", "start": 6042.36, "end": 6048.96}, {"text": "more chances more volunteers able to work and um so these animals will have more", "start": 6048.96, "end": 6056.32}, {"text": "chances to be adopted to be retrained rehab if we have a a a shelter so I", "start": 6056.32, "end": 6064.639}, {"text": "totally I am with this uh many uh residents but that we need to have a", "start": 6064.639, "end": 6071.08}, {"text": "shelter that will be totally monitored by uh our uh municipality whether it's", "start": 6071.08, "end": 6078.119}, {"text": "County or whether it's City and you know what I hear here oh buy land because", "start": 6078.119, "end": 6083.36}, {"text": "land for sale We own land the city owns land I want to know exactly how many pieces of land we own we have land over", "start": 6083.36, "end": 6090.639}, {"text": "there nearby Town Center which is a commercial area uh several Lots the city", "start": 6090.639, "end": 6095.84}, {"text": "owns land the county owns land why do we have to buy land to serve our own pocket", "start": 6095.84, "end": 6101.84}, {"text": "We Own It the people own it so we should designate some of that land for a", "start": 6101.84, "end": 6106.88}, {"text": "shelter and start working with the community raising funds uh with the", "start": 6106.88, "end": 6112.56}, {"text": "donations with the fundraisings with taxes and we need to put sides put aside", "start": 6112.56, "end": 6120.159}, {"text": "taxes for a shelter we need a shelter all of you should know that animals", "start": 6120.159, "end": 6125.76}, {"text": "deserve compassion and deserve Humane treatment and we need to seriously start working with that together with the", "start": 6125.76, "end": 6132.44}, {"text": "county or together with the with the the other cities but we need a a shelter", "start": 6132.44, "end": 6138.44}, {"text": "thank you so much thank you for the comment anyone else from the public yes sir", "start": 6138.44, "end": 6145.158}, {"text": "thank you this is uh certainly not least on not on my agenda because yesterday was gratitude Monday for all our", "start": 6148.08, "end": 6156.4}, {"text": "veterans uh I cannot thank every veteran here listening in this room and all over", "start": 6156.4, "end": 6162.56}, {"text": "the world for your service you wrote a blank check for me and my family I'll never forget it and this community", "start": 6162.56, "end": 6169.08}, {"text": "didn't forget it yesterday it was a unifying event I saw Palm Coast Flagger", "start": 6169.08, "end": 6174.84}, {"text": "Beach Flagger County I saw the city of Flagger uh who Bell they and chief", "start": 6174.84, "end": 6182.56}, {"text": "Brandon put this thing on it wasn't about it was about Community it was", "start": 6182.56, "end": 6188.48}, {"text": "about gratitude and it was about service that the people have done for us and gave", "start": 6188.48, "end": 6195.04}, {"text": "their all in some instances and and certainly put in a great deal of effort and sworded to protect and defend this", "start": 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back", "start": 6241.599, "end": 6247.96}, {"text": "to a home where people don't appreciate them that's not this country that's not where we live and that's not our", "start": 6247.96, "end": 6253.88}, {"text": "community and it should never be that way uh and I want to thank the people on that Veterans Day Parade that I was on", "start": 6253.88, "end": 6260.56}, {"text": "with uh from the city Matthew Johnson Shan Johnson and Gina Catalano I can", "start": 6260.56, "end": 6267.719}, {"text": "tell you there was an awful lot of planning in that parade there a lot of logistics and they just came to the", "start": 6267.719, "end": 6274.44}, {"text": "plate the city of Palm Coast would be very proud you all made history it's nice to be a part of History it's the", "start": 6274.44, "end": 6280.36}, {"text": "largest Veterans Day Parade in the history of of flager County so that's", "start": 6280.36, "end": 6285.8}, {"text": "something to be proud of and what was it for a unifying event to honor our veterans we can't honor them enough I", "start": 6285.8, "end": 6291.96}, {"text": "also want to thank I give a plug here for our Palm Coast ambassadors that were at that event they were feeding our band", "start": 6291.96, "end": 6299.119}, {"text": "members and hydrating them uh Donna mcy her husband Kenneth mcy Sandra shank and", "start": 6299.119, "end": 6306.239}, {"text": "Nina gady unsung heroes they're behind not not out front that's not where it's", "start": 6306.239, "end": 6311.56}, {"text": "about so I want to say thank you thank you this community thank you veterans God bless you all thank you for sitting", "start": 6311.56, "end": 6317.52}, {"text": "on this city council all you all you members here you did a great job you did", "start": 6317.52, "end": 6322.56}, {"text": "all you could I know you tried to make our community better I thank you God bless you God Bless America thank you", "start": 6322.56, "end": 6328.8}, {"text": "for your comment anyone", "start": 6328.8, "end": 6332.198}, {"text": "else good morning Jeremy Davis P section as a veteran thank you Ed Dano thank you", "start": 6337.32, "end": 6343.52}, {"text": "for your service as well I should have said that at earlier because you are a prior vet same as the mayor thank you", "start": 6343.52, "end": 6350.44}, {"text": "right you're a prior vet as well thank you um so with that being said the what he", "start": 6350.44, "end": 6358.96}, {"text": "was just talking about was great to see I mean they did put dump trucks so no one could break through the barrier and", "start": 6358.96, "end": 6365.159}, {"text": "run anybody over that was good to see they took a lot of precautions I I like seeing things like that because you", "start": 6365.159, "end": 6370.719}, {"text": "never know when some crazy thing is going to happen you know people lose their minds all the time um you know", "start": 6370.719, "end": 6376.719}, {"text": "there's a lot of people in our community that has PTSD I'm one of those people", "start": 6376.719, "end": 6381.84}, {"text": "and y'all have y have tested my patients I can tell you that that so but with", "start": 6381.84, "end": 6387.639}, {"text": "that being said my quality of life is not so well as y'all know my home did", "start": 6387.639, "end": 6394.239}, {"text": "take on water you do know that and I have all of you to think for my quality", "start": 6394.239, "end": 6399.92}, {"text": "of life no no cheers for", "start": 6399.92, "end": 6405.199}, {"text": "that I'm working on my house Relentless to fix it cuz I get zero help", "start": 6405.199, "end": 6412.96}, {"text": "I have a $6,800 deductible not y'all's fault not nothing I can do about", "start": 6412.96, "end": 6419.639}, {"text": "that I run a business in this town good I have a daughter that moved here", "start": 6419.639, "end": 6427.28}, {"text": "that I had 10 years without her being in my life because her mom tried to take her away from me she is now living with", "start": 6427.28, "end": 6434.719}, {"text": "her grandmother because of the damage in my home and I hold every one of you", "start": 6434.719, "end": 6440.679}, {"text": "accountable for that because of an atrocity to be next to me that we did come to a conclusion that is shedding", "start": 6440.679, "end": 6446.719}, {"text": "water on me and nobody is holding that accountability either so back to when I", "start": 6446.719, "end": 6453.52}, {"text": "came to this meeting and said I would have to sue my neighbor and y'all all looked at me and said I was wrong in", "start": 6453.52, "end": 6458.88}, {"text": "that I have to sue my neighbor to have any any type of accountability and", "start": 6458.88, "end": 6464.96}, {"text": "that's just wrong she shouldn't have to go through that because she bought a home that", "start": 6464.96, "end": 6471.36}, {"text": "y'all allowed to be built make that make", "start": 6471.36, "end": 6477.28}, {"text": "sense none of y'all would be happy if you bought a home and then the neighbor sued you because your water is shedding", "start": 6477.28, "end": 6484.239}, {"text": "on them because mismanagement in the city allowed that to happen make it make", "start": 6484.239, "end": 6491.76}, {"text": "sense thank me for my comment and I'll walk away are there any other members of the", "start": 6491.76, "end": 6498.44}, {"text": "public that would like to comment at this time seeing no one come forward um city", "start": 6498.44, "end": 6504.4}, {"text": "council any uh final comments uh regarding our public comment yes ma'am I", "start": 6504.4, "end": 6509.52}, {"text": "just I just want to thank commissioner staple for for everything that you've done for us the last few years instrumental um I Echo what councilman", "start": 6509.52, "end": 6516.159}, {"text": "Kus says your impact on our city will be felt forever so thank you I I I would", "start": 6516.159, "end": 6522.88}, {"text": "second that and I would I would ask the question um is it your intention to continue on um with all the I wasn't", "start": 6522.88, "end": 6530.36}, {"text": "going to do that I know I couldn't resist so anyway we would we would encourage you we would uh hope that you", "start": 6530.36, "end": 6536.719}, {"text": "would uh continue to support the community in any way you can for as long as you possibly can so we thank you for", "start": 6536.719, "end": 6543.56}, {"text": "that very good okay and if if I could I would just like to officially say thank you the last eight years you have been", "start": 6543.56, "end": 6548.84}, {"text": "instrumental in gamechanging projects for the city of Palm Coast and I want you to know that every time we go by", "start": 6548.84, "end": 6554.48}, {"text": "Waterside park it is because of our joint collaborative efforts and the hard", "start": 6554.48, "end": 6559.56}, {"text": "work that you've put in and just want to say thank you and that your impact will Outlast myself yourself they'll be", "start": 6559.56, "end": 6565.48}, {"text": "failed for Generations it's a tremendous great thing and I hope the city of PM Coast are residents that's kind of one of the Hidden gems and diamonds of the", "start": 6565.48, "end": 6571.48}, {"text": "city of Palm Coast so it gets busier and busier each time I go over there so I'm sure they're finding it thank you all", "start": 6571.48, "end": 6577.88}, {"text": "right with that we'll move to uh uh agenda letter F minutes minutes of the city council meeting held on October the", "start": 6577.88, "end": 6584.4}, {"text": "15 2024 it was a business meeting I would ask for a second to approve those", "start": 6584.4, "end": 6589.88}, {"text": "minutes I have a second from I mean I'm sorry I have a motion from the vice mayor I'll second second from uh", "start": 6589.88, "end": 6595.639}, {"text": "councilwoman pontier uh any discussion all in favor please signify by saying I", "start": 6595.639, "end": 6601.28}, {"text": "I I are there any opposed the motion passes unanimously thank you we now move to letter G on the agenda today which is", "start": 6601.28, "end": 6607.88}, {"text": "ordinances of the second read and counselor if you would read that into the record for me please ordinance 2024", "start": 6607.88, "end": 6615.88}, {"text": "dxx amending chapter 2 Administration article 6 retirement", "start": 6615.88, "end": 6621.4}, {"text": "division 2 volunteer fire fire and retirement system and trust fund good morning mayor and councel", "start": 6621.4, "end": 6628.599}, {"text": "morning uh Kyle Barry Hill Palm Coast fire department we're here today with the second read of the um of the uh", "start": 6628.599, "end": 6636.04}, {"text": "amended or the revised pension ordinance um you also have before you an Actuarial", "start": 6636.04, "end": 6642.119}, {"text": "impact statement um today the consultant from Foster Foster Mr loanne is here um", "start": 6642.119, "end": 6647.159}, {"text": "if there are any questions associated with that um but I'm going to just give a quick briefing of what that um what", "start": 6647.159, "end": 6654.28}, {"text": "that impact statement told us it did lay out some of the questions that occurred about what the benefits are has changed", "start": 6654.28, "end": 6661.159}, {"text": "for the tier a members if you recall um we've had a volunteer firefighter pension um for many many years and this", "start": 6661.159, "end": 6669.719}, {"text": "is the beginning of our career firefighters participating in that system there's a they're labeled as tier a and tier B and so um members who uh", "start": 6669.719, "end": 6678.48}, {"text": "career members who earn um 10 years of credited service who have live who have worked worked for the city of Palm Coast", "start": 6678.48, "end": 6684.28}, {"text": "for 10 years um will be eligible for this pension that meets the requirements of the state's chapter 175 statute um", "start": 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entered into a 401k style of uh retirement system it's called a 401a so", "start": 6880.76, "end": 6885.8}, {"text": "it's a Define contribution the city defines what they'll put in and then it's up to the retiree or the members to", "start": 6885.8, "end": 6893.199}, {"text": "um grow that and and take care of that for their future retirement um it's very unique in the fire service for that to", "start": 6893.199, "end": 6899.84}, {"text": "be the case I believe were less than five fire departments in Florida that have that and so partially because of", "start": 6899.84, "end": 6906.079}, {"text": "this funding source um so today's resolution would put us into a defined", "start": 6906.079, "end": 6911.84}, {"text": "benefit retirement system for all new members and then a one-time option for all existing career firefighters to", "start": 6911.84, "end": 6918.52}, {"text": "enter and that's more of a traditional pension plan so and obviously the the the incentive would I mean the hope is", "start": 6918.52, "end": 6926.199}, {"text": "that this will continue to U bring forward uh the best possible candidates", "start": 6926.199, "end": 6933.159}, {"text": "and and keep them in so that our fire service ranks at the various high at the", "start": 6933.159, "end": 6939.92}, {"text": "highest bar it possibly can in exit interviews where we've lost firefighters 80% of the time they've mentioned", "start": 6939.92, "end": 6945.599}, {"text": "retirement and and Florida um hiring and retaining firefighters is a challenge", "start": 6945.599, "end": 6951.96}, {"text": "today that's where I really wanted to get to and councilwoman did you want to further comment on that yeah I think that um", "start": 6951.96, "end": 6959.4}, {"text": "anything that we can do to um uh help our retention is obviously what we want to do it's always more expensive to lose", "start": 6959.4, "end": 6967.119}, {"text": "people and then have to train them and um you know not being a training ground in that way is what we want to make sure", "start": 6967.119, "end": 6973.84}, {"text": "we're not engaging in so thank you Chief um thank you to our union rep Representatives um Patrick I know you've", "start": 6973.84, "end": 6980.719}, {"text": "been working tirelessly at this and to the rest of your group for all of their efforts um and thank you to the council", "start": 6980.719, "end": 6987.44}, {"text": "for finally taking this across the Finish Line I think this is instrumental in staff as well um and it shows how", "start": 6987.44, "end": 6993.36}, {"text": "much we value our our firefighters so I I'm just super excited for this to actually go through I just want to know", "start": 6993.36, "end": 6999.48}, {"text": "if that's a future firefighter that's getting paded so gently in the back I I I won't ask but I I couldn't resist any", "start": 6999.48, "end": 7005.96}, {"text": "other comment from City Council Members yep I would just say over the past eight years I've have seen incredible uh growth within our fire department", "start": 7005.96, "end": 7012.48}, {"text": "professionally Kyle you've done a tremendous job as Chief secession planning is something that was always", "start": 7012.48, "end": 7017.52}, {"text": "critical in our fire department and we've seen it be a success in and I'm excited for what the future holds for", "start": 7017.52, "end": 7023.599}, {"text": "our fire department but uh to be able to do something like this that is going to help uh retain some of the best", "start": 7023.599, "end": 7030.76}, {"text": "emergency service uh workers that I've ever seen in my entire life I think that this is uh I'm incredibly privileged to be a part of it and eight years ago I", "start": 7030.76, "end": 7037.48}, {"text": "know that we were having retention issues and you have completely transformed uh we're viewed and your", "start": 7037.48, "end": 7043.159}, {"text": "impact in our community is huge too and I just want to say thank you over the last eight years it's been a tremendous ride and I'm thankful to have been part", "start": 7043.159, "end": 7049.32}, {"text": "of it with you guys so thank you I just wanted to say uh chief that", "start": 7049.32, "end": 7055.159}, {"text": "this you know absolutely makes sense not only for our firefighters but for our community", "start": 7055.159, "end": 7061.36}, {"text": "right uh you have to retain talent but we we've got to grow our talent and you", "start": 7061.36, "end": 7066.52}, {"text": "know for those that come in earlier in their careers to to to eventually reach retirement and have something to shoot", "start": 7066.52, "end": 7072.199}, {"text": "for it it makes total sense I look forward to supporting this thank you thank you councilman thank you uh with", "start": 7072.199, "end": 7077.48}, {"text": "that I'll hold uh I'll hold for a motion we'll go to public comment um are there any members of the public that would", "start": 7077.48, "end": 7083.119}, {"text": "like to comment on this agenda item at this", "start": 7083.119, "end": 7087.96}, {"text": "time Patrick there he", "start": 7091.04, "end": 7095.8}, {"text": "is good morning mayor and councel uh Patrick Juliano vice president and Palm Coast professional firefighters so this", "start": 7097.92, "end": 7105.28}, {"text": "is a significant Milestone um if approved we will have achieved something", "start": 7105.28, "end": 7111.04}, {"text": "remarkable a pension for our career firefighters that secures their future and honors their service and the path", "start": 7111.04, "end": 7118.199}, {"text": "here be officially began about 5 years ago and this ordinance before you uh", "start": 7118.199, "end": 7123.84}, {"text": "represents a collaborative effort of Staff Union City Administration city council and an achievement we all can", "start": 7123.84, "end": 7131.079}, {"text": "take pride in so I want to thank uh our HR Director Miss Fuller for taking our", "start": 7131.079, "end": 7137.079}, {"text": "questions listening to our initial proposals navigating the complexities of this initiative and often with great", "start": 7137.079, "end": 7143.88}, {"text": "patience with us um our city manager Miss Johnston you know she's been", "start": 7143.88, "end": 7149.079}, {"text": "instrumental as our chief of staff and then the assistant city manager and her current role ensured that every detail", "start": 7149.079, "end": 7155.719}, {"text": "has been addressed and her leadership and determination has brought us to this moment uh so thank you for that uh to", "start": 7155.719, "end": 7162.719}, {"text": "Mayor and honorable members of council thank you for taking the time to understand this issue to learn about a", "start": 7162.719, "end": 7168.28}, {"text": "chapter 175 pension uh listening to the proposals asking thorough questions that", "start": 7168.28, "end": 7173.88}, {"text": "brought Clarity throughout the process and your V Visionary leadership is invaluable and if I might uh council", "start": 7173.88, "end": 7181}, {"text": "member Dano council member kuus and mayor uh Alin this is your last meeting but it's all together fit in proper that", "start": 7181, "end": 7187.36}, {"text": "this is the uh before you as one of your last acts in Council and we are forever grateful for your your service and your", "start": 7187.36, "end": 7193.199}, {"text": "leadership and your unwavering support of us on this uh and helping to make this a reality so like I said this", "start": 7193.199, "end": 7199.92}, {"text": "agreement reflects five years of efforts uh navigating labor laws conducting actual assessments and tackling", "start": 7199.92, "end": 7206.28}, {"text": "complexities of a firefighter retention plan and it's been challenging but it has been rewarding a process that", "start": 7206.28, "end": 7212.639}, {"text": "reflects the strength of collaboration and shared purpose so that's why today's decision holds such significance to us", "start": 7212.639, "end": 7220.28}, {"text": "um this provides firefighters with security and honors their sacrifice they make daily this agreement exemplifies", "start": 7220.28, "end": 7226.8}, {"text": "what can be achieved through thoughtful leadership and collaboration creating a lasting Legacy for those who serve today", "start": 7226.8, "end": 7234.079}, {"text": "and for generations to come life-changing decisions aren't often before us but this is one of these", "start": 7234.079, "end": 7241.4}, {"text": "extraordinary moments that they are so on behalf of the Palm Coast professional firefighters we want to extend our", "start": 7241.4, "end": 7248.199}, {"text": "deepest gratitude to all of you for uh being with us these last 5 years and hearing us out and working through this", "start": 7248.199, "end": 7255.159}, {"text": "process um together we've achieved this and we couldn't have done it without you and so with that thank you so much for", "start": 7255.159, "end": 7261.76}, {"text": "being part of something great thank you Patrick and also I would ask that uh um as you uh move forward in the future you", "start": 7261.76, "end": 7268.679}, {"text": "since you have told us that we become part of a a rather unique exclusive", "start": 7268.679, "end": 7275.44}, {"text": "group that has this uh opportunity available that you pass that along to to", "start": 7275.44, "end": 7282.92}, {"text": "the younger members of the program in the high school so that they further", "start": 7282.92, "end": 7288.92}, {"text": "understand how great it would be to train and become a a part of your", "start": 7288.92, "end": 7294.8}, {"text": "organization here locally okay any comments um we've heard uh any other", "start": 7294.8, "end": 7301.719}, {"text": "members of the public yes ma'am", "start": 7301.719, "end": 7305.639}, {"text": "silia pissi in P since 91 uh I am all for our fire department personnel to be", "start": 7312.48, "end": 7321.32}, {"text": "uh properly um uh paid and and uh with the benefits but I have a question how", "start": 7321.32, "end": 7329.44}, {"text": "much I want to have a figure how much is this um er V yes will cost this trust", "start": 7329.44, "end": 7339.04}, {"text": "fund retirement system trust fund will cost to the taxpayers of palm Co how much this is because", "start": 7339.04, "end": 7347.199}, {"text": "haven't have not been mentioned how much it's going to cost to the taxpayers I", "start": 7347.199, "end": 7352.52}, {"text": "think the chief made reference to it and I think he'll be happy to follow up with you uh if you're looking for some actual", "start": 7352.52, "end": 7358.199}, {"text": "numbers or you can refer to the budget which is published no I am actually looking for the number because the taxpayers doesn't they'll be happy to", "start": 7358.199, "end": 7364.599}, {"text": "follow up with you with that I would like to have it today yes", "start": 7364.599, "end": 7369.88}, {"text": "okay okay thank you that's any other members of the public with that then I would ask for a", "start": 7369.88, "end": 7377}, {"text": "motion I'll make a motion the vice mayor has made a motion to approve the the ordinance as read and uh city councilman", "start": 7377, "end": 7385.84}, {"text": "kuus has seconded is there any further discussion okay all in favor please", "start": 7385.84, "end": 7391.88}, {"text": "signify by saying I I I are there any opposed does the clerk have the count", "start": 7391.88, "end": 7397.599}, {"text": "the motion passes unanimously mayor if I may I just want to say that this is a huge day um for the Palm Coast fire", "start": 7397.599, "end": 7403.92}, {"text": "department um this was a thing from Recruitment and Retention standpoints where other", "start": 7403.92, "end": 7409.4}, {"text": "um firefighters have firefighter friends and they discuss the type of benefit and", "start": 7409.4, "end": 7416.8}, {"text": "uh this was a place of contention and for you know Patrick references being a five-year thing but it's a much longer", "start": 7416.8, "end": 7423.76}, {"text": "thing than that and um the fact that our staff and the city council was willing to listen we were able to find a win", "start": 7423.76, "end": 7430.28}, {"text": "where we're both doing the right thing doing what the employee wants and saving the city money for a while and that's a", "start": 7430.28, "end": 7436.84}, {"text": "really special thing so I appreciate it and thank you very much go and please uh get somebody if they would to follow up with Celia I appreciate that very very", "start": 7436.84, "end": 7443.559}, {"text": "much thank you all right with that we'll move to uh agenda letter G item number", "start": 7443.559, "end": 7450.28}, {"text": "six um ordinance for amending the unified Land Development code and counselor if you would uh go ahead and", "start": 7450.28, "end": 7456.8}, {"text": "read that in for us certainly Mr Mayor ordinance 20 024 dxx amending the", "start": 7456.8, "end": 7463.88}, {"text": "unified Land Development code to implement ensure compliance with the Liv local", "start": 7463.88, "end": 7470.079}, {"text": "act good morning Mr Mayor and members of the council Michael Hansen from the", "start": 7473.159, "end": 7478.639}, {"text": "planning division Community Development uh we last discussed this", "start": 7478.639, "end": 7485.44}, {"text": "approximately a month ago on October 15th where the council uh voted unanimously to move the uh ordinance", "start": 7485.44, "end": 7493.4}, {"text": "forward with a couple slight changes increasing the non-residential component", "start": 7493.4, "end": 7498.76}, {"text": "from 30% to 35% and also uh changing or modifying the", "start": 7498.76, "end": 7506.44}, {"text": "definition of Transit stop to make it not apply to school buses uh the day following um due to", "start": 7506.44, "end": 7513.679}, {"text": "Hurricane Milton the the the week before so kind of modified our schedule we actually went to planning board after", "start": 7513.679, "end": 7519.88}, {"text": "the first read for the council so the planning board met on October 16th where they also voted unanimously for the", "start": 7519.88, "end": 7527.079}, {"text": "approval of this ordinance with the council's Amendments that you had for on the", "start": 7527.079, "end": 7532.679}, {"text": "October 15th meeting so uh once again the live local", "start": 7532.679, "end": 7540.32}, {"text": "Act is a state preemption that's essentially a blanket preemption across the entire state to be a tool to help", "start": 7540.32, "end": 7547.559}, {"text": "assist in having additional uh affordable housing stock within the state however uh due to the", "start": 7547.559, "end": 7555.44}, {"text": "blanket preemptions that we have uh it kind of forc our hands to have to", "start": 7555.44, "end": 7560.96}, {"text": "approve uh non-residential development with well live affordable housing development within non-residential", "start": 7560.96, "end": 7567.28}, {"text": "zoning districts um so for the sake of brevity I'll try and go through everything", "start": 7567.28, "end": 7572.599}, {"text": "quickly if you have further questions by all means feel free to stop me uh once again though we are taking a position", "start": 7572.599, "end": 7579}, {"text": "that this doesn't apply to our mix or PL m plan developments so it only would apply to commercial 1 2 3 ofc 1 and two", "start": 7579, "end": 7587.76}, {"text": "industrial 1 and two zoning uh districts within the", "start": 7587.76, "end": 7593.638}, {"text": "city could I just real real quick is that a point of contention across the state whether or not this applies to", "start": 7594.239, "end": 7599.719}, {"text": "master planed uh verse Comm 1 com 2 com three um I don't have a list of uh", "start": 7599.719, "end": 7609.199}, {"text": "cities as far as their stances one way or the other other I know because it is", "start": 7609.199, "end": 7614.28}, {"text": "essentially uh a newer law as it was most recently amended this past uh um", "start": 7614.28, "end": 7621.239}, {"text": "essentially May 16th was when it was uh the most recent Amendment went through that there may be some contention", "start": 7621.239, "end": 7626.96}, {"text": "whether it applies to either a a plan unit development or a master plan development or so on throughout the", "start": 7626.96, "end": 7632.96}, {"text": "state so still a little fluid only time will tell exactly where the ships might", "start": 7632.96, "end": 7638.559}, {"text": "fall there might be another glitch bill or something that ends up getting adopted by the state so this is our", "start": 7638.559, "end": 7646.8}, {"text": "interpretation uh interpretation as is based on our legal uh Consulting with uh", "start": 7646.8, "end": 7653.44}, {"text": "Marcus uh throughout the process so that we can essentially make sure that we're able to best protect the city um based", "start": 7653.44, "end": 7661.239}, {"text": "on the implementation of this law thank you just really quickly on that though I hear what you're saying because I", "start": 7661.239, "end": 7666.679}, {"text": "actually um I'm on the Planning and Development Committee for FLC and", "start": 7666.679, "end": 7671.96}, {"text": "they specifically are addressing that question right now so we're going to", "start": 7671.96, "end": 7677.76}, {"text": "continue to see this is going to be a very Dynamic area of the law um they're addressing that and also what um is", "start": 7677.76, "end": 7683.36}, {"text": "really defined as mixed use so I think we're just going to possibly have to be fluid along with that and maybe even", "start": 7683.36, "end": 7690.079}, {"text": "think about protections for us to grandfather Us in as kind of law comes", "start": 7690.079, "end": 7696.239}, {"text": "from the top to further denigrate home rule in that way so we'll just have to keep an eye on it understood thanks so I", "start": 7696.239, "end": 7702.04}, {"text": "I guess the real question is I mean in your opinion based on your experience is this contentious enough that it could be", "start": 7702.04, "end": 7707.52}, {"text": "used in the legislature to kind of blow it up uh in the coming session or over I", "start": 7707.52, "end": 7713.559}, {"text": "mean can somebody um um protest against the entire live local", "start": 7713.559, "end": 7720.44}, {"text": "act because of that component or do you think it'll be restricted to just that component well I don't know I mean I I", "start": 7720.44, "end": 7727.36}, {"text": "think that as we start to see probably case law come down and further def you know different factual scenarios because", "start": 7727.36, "end": 7733.36}, {"text": "that's what caseall does right it'll take legislation very high level and as we have certain little facts come here and there that's how cases Define those", "start": 7733.36, "end": 7741.199}, {"text": "those certain scenarios so I don't I don't know I'm hoping that our legislator will do away with it but I don't see that happening all right so we", "start": 7741.199, "end": 7747.04}, {"text": "move forward okay good um I'm sorry go ahead no it's it's all right sir um so", "start": 7747.04, "end": 7752.84}, {"text": "since the city's taking the position that the live local act doesn't apply to our master plan developments we", "start": 7752.84, "end": 7758.679}, {"text": "calculated out within the city that from our commercial 1 12 3 ofc one2 and Industrial 1 and two so essentially our", "start": 7758.679, "end": 7765.44}, {"text": "non-residential zoning districts that we have uh we have 4.34% of the entire city", "start": 7765.44, "end": 7771.199}, {"text": "is essentially zoned through a straight uh zoning district for non-residential development so as uh I made or informed", "start": 7771.199, 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Development code other than what's uh preempted from", "start": 7874.32, "end": 7880.239}, {"text": "the state so uh kind of as a refresher allows the maximum density within the the city 150%", "start": 7880.239, "end": 7888.52}, {"text": "of the maximum floor air ratio within any zoning District in the city uh up", "start": 7888.52, "end": 7893.92}, {"text": "to uh 150% of the tallest adjacent building zoning districts to find Max", "start": 7893.92, "end": 7899.599}, {"text": "height or three stories or greater for any kind of live local development that's uh adjacent to two sides or more", "start": 7899.599, "end": 7907.079}, {"text": "for any kind of single family residential so that was a change with the last amendment that helped protect uh areas that were adjacent to single", "start": 7907.079, "end": 7914.4}, {"text": "family residential zoning districts otherwise the live local allows are the maximum Building height within a mile of", "start": 7914.4, "end": 7920.559}, 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warehouse self storage facilities from being the non residential component both components of the", "start": 7967.88, "end": 7974.76}, {"text": "non-residential and residential have to be interconnected with sidewalks and internal roads they share the same AIS", "start": 7974.76, "end": 7980.04}, {"text": "that way it doesn't further inundate our transportation system with additional uh points of connection onto our arterial", "start": 7980.04, "end": 7986.639}, {"text": "or collector", "start": 7986.639, "end": 7989.199}, {"text": "roads uh once again there's an exemption for uh airports when within a quarter", "start": 7993.28, "end": 8000.239}, {"text": "mile of a Runway or its extension of 10,000 ft so that way the live local area act wouldn't apply to those kind of", "start": 8000.239, "end": 8007.4}, {"text": "projects because otherwise the live local act all these projects are", "start": 8007.4, "end": 8012.639}, {"text": "administratively uh approved so they wouldn't come before this body or the planning board and is that's a state", "start": 8012.639, "end": 8020}, {"text": "preemption to help control this we're looking at using a land use restriction agreement for any kind of project that", "start": 8020, "end": 8025.96}, {"text": "comes in that would ultimately get recorded at the county", "start": 8025.96, "end": 8031.36}, {"text": "it puts the responsibility for income verification of the tenants on the", "start": 8031.36, "end": 8037.48}, {"text": "property owner uh the property owner has to have at least the minimum 40% for the", "start": 8037.48, "end": 8042.52}, {"text": "affordable units of the project so it allows them to have some as market rate otherwise they had to have that at least", "start": 8042.52, "end": 8047.599}, {"text": "40% for the affordable up to no greater than 120% of the area median", "start": 8047.599, "end": 8054.599}, {"text": "income even though it says 30 years of uh requirement it's only actually a", "start": 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thank", "start": 8098.599, "end": 8104.92}, {"text": "you now this is kind of going over still the", "start": 8107.639, "end": 8112.8}, {"text": "developmental standards that we have for the monitoring essentially allows the city to come in with notice to the", "start": 8112.8, "end": 8118.84}, {"text": "property owners so that that way we can inspect the records and then also", "start": 8118.84, "end": 8124.079}, {"text": "inspect the property to ensure that they're meeting all the requirements of the law and then any other applicable laws such as like the Fair Housing Act", "start": 8124.079, "end": 8130.8}, {"text": "to ensure that the affordable units are comparable in nature to the any market", "start": 8130.8, "end": 8136.04}, {"text": "rate units that might be the ordinance also provides 11", "start": 8136.04, "end": 8144.8}, {"text": "definitions uh for Land Development code uh to help with this uh", "start": 8144.8, "end": 8152.199}, {"text": "implement the law based on the update from the last uh", "start": 8152.199, "end": 8161.36}, {"text": "time this came before the council back on October 15th the change for the", "start": 8161.36, "end": 8166.52}, {"text": "language was for the transit stop and this is the new", "start": 8166.52, "end": 8174.239}, {"text": "language that we have where we added uh a sentence to the end of it that school bus stops are not considered Transit", "start": 8174.239, "end": 8180.639}, {"text": "stop per definition so that way we ensure that there's no confusion counting", "start": 8180.639, "end": 8185.76}, {"text": "school bus stops as part of that uh additionally ordinance does have", "start": 8185.76, "end": 8193}, {"text": "language to grandfather any live local development that has submitted an application for", "start": 8193, "end": 8198.88}, {"text": "development um or legally existed priority adoption of this as is right now we've had received one application", "start": 8198.88, "end": 8205.439}, {"text": "for development pursuant to the live local act development that's still in house so it hasn't been approved yet yet", "start": 8205.44, "end": 8211.24}, {"text": "as far as I see but it's um still pending going through but", "start": 8211.24, "end": 8218.638}, {"text": "there's language in there that allows it to continue to exist based on the the nature of the", "start": 8218.639, "end": 8225.24}, {"text": "law based on the original Law that's correct sir oh that one applicant's", "start": 8225.24, "end": 8231.04}, {"text": "grandfathered it yes if essentially because as is this ordinance isn't", "start": 8231.04, "end": 8237.319}, {"text": "approved yet they're able to develop under what's actually on the books for the state law so the implementation of", "start": 8237.32, "end": 8243.96}, {"text": "this has a grandfather clause to allow that development to continue to go through the process as is because the", "start": 8243.96, "end": 8250.92}, {"text": "the difference is the state law doesn't have a required non-residential component for mixed use", "start": 8250.92, "end": 8256.88}, {"text": "where our ordinance is putting in this 35% for horizontal mix use which that application would", "start": 8256.88, "end": 8262.678}, {"text": "have uh if it were to apply say if it had applied after the implementation this however we received it ahead of", "start": 8262.679, "end": 8268.598}, {"text": "time we worked with that uh project to still have some uh non-residential", "start": 8268.599, "end": 8274.598}, {"text": "component it's approximately 20.2% of the project so it's not quite the 35 that otherwise would come through with", "start": 8274.599, "end": 8281.399}, {"text": "if they applied after the adoption of this it's it's been our it's been our", "start": 8281.4, "end": 8286.8}, {"text": "procedure and process to um respect the uh the agreements that were made in", "start": 8286.8, "end": 8293.478}, {"text": "advance of any changes that's that's what we've done that's my understanding of of it so I guess what I don't", "start": 8293.479, "end": 8300}, {"text": "understand is if we we're grandfathering in an applicant why why are we changing", "start": 8300, "end": 8306.08}, {"text": "all this stuff from a law that went through Tallahassee and are we going to get ourselves into a legal situation down", "start": 8306.08, "end": 8313.638}, {"text": "the road when somebody else comes along I mean there's just so much", "start": 8313.639, "end": 8322}, {"text": "here so I I can defer to Marcus to provide any kind of legal Insight but I know a lot of jurisdictions within the", "start": 8322, "end": 8329.2}, {"text": "city are taking implementation ordinance is similar to what we have there's numerous communities um that are", "start": 8329.2, "end": 8335.598}, {"text": "essentially just as restrictive as what we have because of the amount of non-residential zone property that we", "start": 8335.599, "end": 8341.28}, {"text": "have within the city to ensure we protect that as much as possible so with the 4.34% of non-residential uh zone", "start": 8341.281, "end": 8349.24}, {"text": "property that we have within the city if we weren't to implement this project it would have potentially allowed", "start": 8349.24, "end": 8354.399}, {"text": "developers come in and utilize the live local lack to develop that all that property for essentially multi family", "start": 8354.4, "end": 8361.399}, {"text": "development and further reduce our tax Bas that we have for the city so the whole intent of this ordinance is to try", "start": 8361.4, "end": 8367.28}, {"text": "and protect the city as much as possible yeah I'm still just concerned we're going to find ourselves an illegal", "start": 8367.281, "end": 8372.558}, {"text": "nightmare down the road over this um that that that's just a", "start": 8372.559, "end": 8378.359}, {"text": "concern I appreciate the work that you've done I absolutely think this is necessary to protect the little bit of", "start": 8378.36, "end": 8385.558}, {"text": "non-residential that we do have left and um this not only protects us from you", "start": 8385.559, "end": 8391.16}, {"text": "know that very specific standpoint but just conceptually protecting our sovereignty as a city to regulate", "start": 8391.16, "end": 8397.8}, {"text": "ourselves um and I I think our our constituents um their policy is that", "start": 8397.8, "end": 8404.56}, {"text": "they be able to govern themselves as well and I think what really um irritates me about this act from", "start": 8404.56, "end": 8411.28}, {"text": "Tallahassee is that it does away with the necessity for applicants to come before this board who was who who was", "start": 8411.28, "end": 8418.08}, {"text": "elected directly by our constituents to um regulate these developments and it", "start": 8418.08, "end": 8423.96}, {"text": "precludes the necessity for neighborhood meetings I mean it really does cut the public out of this decision-making", "start": 8423.96, "end": 8430.08}, {"text": "process which is absolutely 100% against I think everything this board has", "start": 8430.08, "end": 8435.12}, {"text": "previously stated it it was um in favor of so I appreciate the work that you've done I think that this is the most that", "start": 8435.12, "end": 8441.04}, {"text": "we can do to continue to protect our city and protect our residents and really still um try to to get in that as", "start": 8441.04, "end": 8448.72}, {"text": "much non-residential and Commercial as as as possible even in light of this act so thank you", "start": 8448.72, "end": 8455.28}, {"text": "else no I appreciate all the changes to this there was a lawsuit joke in there somewhere but I can't find it uh I just", "start": 8455.28, "end": 8461.52}, {"text": "want to say thank you for everything I think this is going to be a tough one for our Council remaining and then our future councils to try to uh walk this", "start": 8461.52, "end": 8468.72}, {"text": "delicately so if I if I'm in if it's inappropriate and if I direct my comment", "start": 8468.72, "end": 8474.8}, {"text": "to Jason is there any way in Broad Strokes to help the community understand", "start": 8474.8, "end": 8482.56}, {"text": "what's the net effect of all of this with regard to the community of Palm Coast over the next 3 to 5 years based", "start": 8482.6, "end": 8489.08}, {"text": "on the knowledge that you know now you can't paint your house yellow oh my bad", "start": 8489.08, "end": 8494.84}, {"text": "give give us some idea what does what does it mean in Broad Strokes yes sir um", "start": 8494.84, "end": 8500.479}, {"text": "thank you for that so uh this bill is large the state bill is is large and it", "start": 8500.479, "end": 8506.92}, {"text": "has it's multifaceted right but there is a part that pertains Direct ly to preempting the city's authority of", "start": 8506.92, "end": 8515.24}, {"text": "zoning and uh Michael started with that slide of the you know uh C office and", "start": 8515.24, "end": 8522.68}, {"text": "Industrial zoning that can um that a live local applicant can", "start": 8522.68, "end": 8530.52}, {"text": "administratively without public hearing um change that to a residential project", "start": 8530.52, "end": 8536.439}, {"text": "now um some of you will remember that we worked with the Southern Group to put in", "start": 8536.439, "end": 8543.6}, {"text": "a uh little piece of language that defined a um a master plan Community uh", "start": 8543.6, "end": 8551.52}, {"text": "the city of Northport and and us and others work together on some language that didn't take away all of the", "start": 8551.52, "end": 8559.16}, {"text": "commercial it required it to be a portion of it to be mixed use and what", "start": 8559.16, "end": 8564.359}, {"text": "um Michael has done here with marcus' help is to Define that portion within", "start": 8564.359, "end": 8570}, {"text": "the parameters that the state has given us and that's what we're trying to", "start": 8570, "end": 8575.479}, {"text": "protect is that when we uh have someone that applies for live local project and", "start": 8575.479, "end": 8581.92}, {"text": "is going to administratively change our zoning that we have the maximum Protections in place that we are allowed", "start": 8581.92, "end": 8588.24}, {"text": "under the statute as currently written okay there's a whole another portion", "start": 8588.24, "end": 8593.479}, {"text": "mayor that Rel to taxes tax abatement and all that and you know the city won't", "start": 8593.479, "end": 8598.92}, {"text": "have to deal much with that that'll the the county and the tax collector that they have to deal with that very good all right I I think that's as far as you", "start": 8598.92, "end": 8605.68}, {"text": "can you can help us at this point in time yes sir very good thank you welcome um any other questions from uh city", "start": 8605.68, "end": 8612}, {"text": "council members at this point all right I would open the item up for public comment if there are any members of the", "start": 8612, "end": 8617.84}, {"text": "public that would like to comment on this item at this", "start": 8617.84, "end": 8623.08}, {"text": "time siia Pugi in PCO since 991 uh I want everybody to be aware especially", "start": 8626.479, "end": 8632.92}, {"text": "the residents that any vacant land we see around us that is already Zone", "start": 8632.92, "end": 8640.399}, {"text": "commercial not much of industrial industrial but we do for example in the Palm Coast Parkway we have a lot of", "start": 8640.399, "end": 8646.96}, {"text": "commercial line and uh uh think about any of these uh uh developers come buy", "start": 8646.96, "end": 8655.04}, {"text": "that land and put in there whatever we want and anybody of us living near the", "start": 8655.04, "end": 8661.279}, {"text": "Panos Parkway example uh could be subject to that uh if I am wrong I'll like to hear", "start": 8661.279, "end": 8669.76}, {"text": "here from the experts that I'm wrong because I will leave before anything", "start": 8669.76, "end": 8675.56}, {"text": "like that will happen even after 91 years and no M no matter how much I love", "start": 8675.56, "end": 8681.08}, {"text": "pomos but uh because no because of the people or the multif family because what", "start": 8681.08, "end": 8688.8}, {"text": "it will add to the traffic example in the Palm Coast Parkway okay this is the", "start": 8688.8, "end": 8695.68}, {"text": "the the amount of traffic and it would be unbearable and this is one concern", "start": 8695.68, "end": 8701.88}, {"text": "that I have and I want the residents to be aware of that before it's too late okay thank thank you for that and I", "start": 8701.88, "end": 8707.76}, {"text": "think the answer to your question is probably partial specific it would", "start": 8707.76, "end": 8714.12}, {"text": "depend on the individual property but my question to Mr dorenzo before was are we", "start": 8714.12, "end": 8720.439}, {"text": "looking for a significant impact or change in all this I I'm not getting the impression that this such a small amount", "start": 8720.439, "end": 8728.279}, {"text": "to begin with that we're protecting you know it's more about protecting the little we have as opposed to uh a giant", "start": 8728.279, "end": 8735.8}, {"text": "transformation in in the city I don't think that we're expecting that nor does this allow that to happen uh nor will", "start": 8735.8, "end": 8743.16}, {"text": "this facilitate that happening thank you I hope so thank you all right anyone", "start": 8743.16, "end": 8748.92}, {"text": "else okay um what uh are you looking for from staff", "start": 8748.92, "end": 8754.88}, {"text": "today it's um adoption of the second read make a motion to adopt the second read very good so I have a motion to uh", "start": 8754.88, "end": 8762.08}, {"text": "adopt the ordinance on a second read uh is there a second second I have a second from uh", "start": 8762.08, "end": 8768.96}, {"text": "councilman gambero any further discussion we've had public comment um all in favor please signify by saying I", "start": 8768.96, "end": 8777}, {"text": "I I are there any opposed opposed have one opposed does the cour have the count", "start": 8777, "end": 8783.6}, {"text": "okay did you want to give a a reason or again I think Mr Kus said it best that", "start": 8783.6, "end": 8789.2}, {"text": "somewhere in there is a lawsuit waiting to happen and that is just my concern about this so your cons your concern is", "start": 8789.2, "end": 8795.92}, {"text": "the alteration in some of the the the detail okay just so we have it on the record everything and we'll see what", "start": 8795.92, "end": 8802.479}, {"text": "happens I just hate to see us go down that path all right thank you for the feels to me like we're", "start": 8802.479, "end": 8808.88}, {"text": "not there's not not enough out there for us to go down this path all right thank you for the explanation very good okay", "start": 8808.88, "end": 8815.439}, {"text": "thank you all right with that we now move to item G7 which is the ordinance creating an", "start": 8815.439, "end": 8822.12}, {"text": "arts in public places program counselor if you'd go ahead and read that in for", "start": 8822.12, "end": 8827.439}, {"text": "me yes Mr Mayor ordinance 2024 dxx creating an art", "start": 8827.439, "end": 8834.439}, {"text": "and public places program for the city beautification all right good morning", "start": 8834.439, "end": 8839.72}, {"text": "may and city council James Hurst Parks and Recreation director for the city of pal Coast uh today's presentation is the", "start": 8839.72, "end": 8845.84}, {"text": "second read for the percentage of Arts ordinance um we last had this the first read on October 15th um and then over", "start": 8845.84, "end": 8853.2}, {"text": "the last couple of weeks staff has made a couple of updates and some expansions to the", "start": 8853.2, "end": 8858.92}, {"text": "ordinance so just really quickly this is part of the council's SAP priority objective 11 identifying dedicated", "start": 8858.92, "end": 8866.359}, {"text": "funding source for Arts culture and historical activities", "start": 8866.359, "end": 8872.12}, {"text": "um The Establishment and creation of the public fund uh helps does all the", "start": 8872.439, "end": 8878.64}, {"text": "contributions received for the public R program um it includes grants", "start": 8878.64, "end": 8883.92}, {"text": "governmental or other private sources for public art culture and his historic", "start": 8883.92, "end": 8889.56}, {"text": "programs um they shall be allocated to all these funds um then also within this", "start": 8889.56, "end": 8894.84}, {"text": "public fund is a public art maintenance fund which is a portion of this", "start": 8894.84, "end": 8900.76}, {"text": "fund will be designated to provide maintenance and upkeep for all Pub owned", "start": 8900.76, "end": 8906.72}, {"text": "artwork uh so just really quickly from October 15th um this would include a", "start": 8906.72, "end": 8913.359}, {"text": "public art fee um and this is for developments redevelopments and reconstructions of projects with a", "start": 8913.359, "end": 8920.08}, {"text": "construction value of $1 million uh this public art fees shall be", "start": 8920.08, "end": 8925.64}, {"text": "equal to 1/2 of 1% or 0.00 5 of", "start": 8925.64, "end": 8930.84}, {"text": "construction value of the project uh and then all expenditures from this art from this fund shall be", "start": 8930.84, "end": 8937.479}, {"text": "approved by city council after the recommendation from the art and public places committee and then again no no", "start": 8937.479, "end": 8944.8}, {"text": "changes from the exemptions um these were the same ones that I spoke about uh", "start": 8944.8, "end": 8949.92}, {"text": "last 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public art that", "start": 9054.68, "end": 9060.72}, {"text": "will be on public space or city property will be approved by city council after the recommendation by the", "start": 9060.72, "end": 9067.64}, {"text": "committee the application uh for the lure of art will be in will be the", "start": 9067.64, "end": 9074.2}, {"text": "following uh you would the applicant would need to provide a form uh provide a schedule plans rendering in details", "start": 9074.2, "end": 9082.24}, {"text": "and then obviously the payment of fee and nothing has changed from the first reading uh this graph here shows a", "start": 9082.24, "end": 9089.52}, {"text": "little bit of the acceptable and non-acceptable artwork uh these again there was no changes from the first uh", "start": 9089.52, "end": 9095.72}, {"text": "reading on October 15th and then uh the art and public places committee uh review process uh so", "start": 9095.72, "end": 9104.279}, {"text": "a pre-application meeting will will be scheduled by the committee and it be the", "start": 9104.279, "end": 9110.2}, {"text": "applicant she appear to that uh meeting uh we'll review the art standards for", "start": 9110.2, "end": 9115.319}, {"text": "city council approval um see we'll also adopt implementation of", "start": 9115.319, "end": 9120.6}, {"text": "guidelines and then selection of the public artwork uh so just a couple of updates", "start": 9120.6, "end": 9127.76}, {"text": "that I mentioned earlier um for this ordinance so there was a discussion last", "start": 9127.76, "end": 9133.88}, {"text": "and we can continue this discussion today is there was between 0.1 final", "start": 9133.88, "end": 9140.88}, {"text": ".5% of each of the projects um after coming back after October 15th staff", "start": 9140.88, "end": 9146.6}, {"text": "went through and looked at other municipalities throughout the FL the State of Florida and a lot of them did", "start": 9146.6, "end": 9152.16}, {"text": "have a maximum cap per project uh so we followed this with Sarasota uh which", "start": 9152.16, "end": 9158.399}, {"text": "this is largely based on uh and they had a cap of $250,000 per project um so as you saw in", "start": 9158.399, "end": 9166.12}, {"text": "the in the previous slides the 47 million was a 236 or 38,000 so it didn't", "start": 9166.12, "end": 9172.92}, {"text": "hit the max for that one um and then we also updated some verbiage to be able to", "start": 9172.92, "end": 9180.64}, {"text": "use the funds for cultural art grant program uh with City's approval so this helps us burden the limit on the Parks", "start": 9180.64, "end": 9187.399}, {"text": "and Recreation budget which it comes out of currently um but we can also expand this to maybe the Historical Society or", "start": 9187.399, "end": 9194.2}, {"text": "something like that as well um so those were some updated uh verbiage we had in", "start": 9194.2, "end": 9199.24}, {"text": "the ordinance and then just quickly Council action uh just staff Direction on the", "start": 9199.24, "end": 9206.319}, {"text": "public fee percentage and then obviously adopting the second read for the percentage of", "start": 9206.319, "end": 9211.68}, {"text": "Arts okay and that concludes my presentation James I was", "start": 9211.68, "end": 9219.279}, {"text": "uh conservative or reluctant on the The Last Read and let me express my comment", "start": 9219.279, "end": 9227.359}, {"text": "I'm not I'm absolutely in faor favor of making a statement and creating a", "start": 9227.359, "end": 9233}, {"text": "funding source for the arts and culture for the long term my my issue which", "start": 9233, "end": 9238.72}, {"text": "hopefully city council can help me get over is with the lack of a comprehensive", "start": 9238.72, "end": 9245.439}, {"text": "plan I'm not at all clear or sure that 10 years from now what is it that the", "start": 9245.439, "end": 9252.279}, {"text": "city how is the city going to look more beautiful because of the investment that", "start": 9252.279, "end": 9260.08}, {"text": "has been made um you know in general terms it's a little dreamy it sounds good and all of that I'm concerned about", "start": 9260.08, "end": 9266.68}, {"text": "execution and the process and how even individual projects get approved and and", "start": 9266.68, "end": 9273.359}, {"text": "and these monies get accounted for I'm just", "start": 9273.359, "end": 9279.12}, {"text": "again the statement and the collection for the arts and culture I'm in favor of", "start": 9279.12, "end": 9285.8}, {"text": "but the rest of the process for me is is is lame it's not it doesn't tell me what", "start": 9285.8, "end": 9292.359}, {"text": "what we're going to get on the other end that that's where I'm kind of stuck so I would ask City Council Members to help", "start": 9292.359, "end": 9298.439}, {"text": "me with that for sure um so a couple of different things and I I think it's important to note uh the changes for the", 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mandate them", "start": 9335.88, "end": 9343.319}, {"text": "to go above and beyond what their actual uh impact is but this actually does uh allow us to uh require enrichment and of", "start": 9343.319, "end": 9351.08}, {"text": "our of our community um and I'm not certain what the city of Palm Coast is going to look like in 10 years but I can", "start": 9351.08, "end": 9356.399}, {"text": "tell you for sure that the cultural arts funding mechanism for the uh grant funding is something that can have", "start": 9356.399, "end": 9362}, {"text": "impacts tremendously we have and James can if you can hit me with some numbers uh so many different programs that have", "start": 9362, "end": 9367.52}, {"text": "been uh applying to this and we basically have uh you know hamstrung what we're able to fund them recently", "start": 9367.52, "end": 9373.279}, {"text": "but I think those are a couple of mechanisms that would make this more palatable potentially ultimate", "start": 9373.279, "end": 9379.72}, {"text": "yes so I I just want to be clear right Arts culture history", "start": 9379.72, "end": 9384.84}, {"text": "but it could be used also for for whatever is required within the Parks", "start": 9384.84, "end": 9390.319}, {"text": "and Recreation Department I mean it's it's not it's any of those items that", "start": 9390.319, "end": 9395.359}, {"text": "this fee could be used for right it' just be mainly the Arts culture and history aspects of of the city yeah okay", "start": 9395.359, "end": 9402.24}, {"text": "so I've got I've got two issues with some of the provisions here and and I want to I want to go specifically to", "start": 9402.24, "end": 9408.72}, {"text": "them and reference so the rest of my my fellow City Council Members can take a look at it so this is so so just some", "start": 9408.72, "end": 9416.64}, {"text": "background I'm working extremely hard to bring commercial businesses here okay with my background in defense some", "start": 9416.64, "end": 9424.399}, {"text": "of these folks are potential defense commercial folks right and so under the", "start": 9424.399, "end": 9429.76}, {"text": "esta so in the in Li of category right either they pay the fee or they do something in Li of um so paragraph e", "start": 9429.76, "end": 9438.2}, {"text": "subsection three it says here the committee shall be authorized to approved proposed public art to be", "start": 9438.2, "end": 9444.56}, {"text": "placed on private property prior to its fabrication or acquisition nothing herein shall be construed to require the", "start": 9444.56, "end": 9451.64}, {"text": "public art be in existence and subject to the examination time approval by the committee but this we're talking private", "start": 9451.64, "end": 9458.88}, {"text": "property M so if we bring a big defense firm here and let's say they want to put some uh", "start": 9458.88, "end": 9466.2}, {"text": "they want to create a a historic print of uh a really important battle in our", "start": 9466.2, "end": 9472.88}, {"text": "history or that that maybe a lot of you know our World War Two veterans that", "start": 9472.88, "end": 9478.52}, {"text": "live in our community participated in if they find that offense if the committee", "start": 9478.52, "end": 9483.68}, {"text": "finds that offensive you're telling me that on their own private property right that entity owns", "start": 9483.68, "end": 9489.439}, {"text": "it um they're not allowed to put a historic you know a new piece of art or", "start": 9489.439, "end": 9495.24}, {"text": "historic print that represents the foundation of what the company's for and ties into the community so I've got", "start": 9495.24, "end": 9502.439}, {"text": "an issue with that and um and so I'm going to recommend to the council once", "start": 9502.439, "end": 9507.64}, {"text": "I'm done speaking and everybody has an opportunity to um to to give their comments to amend this or remove that", "start": 9507.64, "end": 9515.56}, {"text": "provision also I have an issue with provision number five so the artwork uh so this is still", "start": 9515.56, "end": 9523.319}, {"text": "under paragraph e the artwork is in place prior to the issuance of a certificate of OCC occupancy for for the", "start": 9523.319, "end": 9530.279}, {"text": "project so a major defense firm that I I'm trying to bring here right um I we", "start": 9530.279, "end": 9537.16}, {"text": "can't issue them their certificate of occupancy because their Pro their arts project hasn't been", "start": 9537.16, "end": 9542.439}, {"text": "approved we're trying to bring people here and those kinds of things will present roadblocks for", "start": 9542.439, "end": 9548.76}, {"text": "it okay I mean this is these Provisions for me it's an example of shooting ourselves in the foot when we're trying", "start": 9548.76, "end": 9555.52}, {"text": "to to bring people here and so um those are my two biggest concerns um I've", "start": 9555.52, "end": 9561.52}, {"text": "shared them with staff already um but I just would offer it uh to the um to to", "start": 9561.52, "end": 9568.319}, {"text": "the council um for consideration of removal uh because I I think", "start": 9568.319, "end": 9574.72}, {"text": "um I I think this this will it's it's going against the intent of really what we're trying to do I think there's I", "start": 9574.72, "end": 9581.399}, {"text": "think it's an attempt to maybe put some teeth to making sure we collect the fee and we hold them account you know a new", "start": 9581.399, "end": 9587.6}, {"text": "commercial entity accountable um before they operate but I think this", "start": 9587.6, "end": 9593.96}, {"text": "this could hurt us in the long term with bringing companies that we need I'll hold on my motion to make the amendment", "start": 9593.96, "end": 9599.72}, {"text": "to to this uh to this ordinance and allow everybody else an opportunity to", "start": 9599.72, "end": 9605.52}, {"text": "speak just I yeah may just the is your objection would your objection disappear", "start": 9605.52, "end": 9612.76}, {"text": "if we took it away from if the art was to be in a public", "start": 9612.76, "end": 9618.92}, {"text": "space and not uh within a private uh commercial", "start": 9618.92, "end": 9624.2}, {"text": "space private property is my issue the private property so if was if if we were not restricting it with private property", "start": 9624.2, "end": 9630.68}, {"text": "just the collecting but using it in a public space that would cure your for for that provision Mr Mayor yes okay", "start": 9630.68, "end": 9637.56}, {"text": "just I understand and then the certificate of occupancy is the other other item so um our opportunity to", "start": 9637.56, "end": 9643.8}, {"text": "legislate here and see where we land I have a question on the second uh issue you have would you be amendable to", "start": 9643.8, "end": 9650.24}, {"text": "having those funds like just received in like an escrow not mandating it before the co or anything like that because if", "start": 9650.24, "end": 9655.479}, {"text": "the process does take too long I could understand how you don't want to you know unintentionally prevent somebody", "start": 9655.479, "end": 9660.68}, {"text": "from coming and giving a CO just because of this Arts provision but uh did you want to remove that fully or are you", "start": 9660.68, "end": 9666}, {"text": "okay like collecting the funds in escrow and then whenever the Arts process were to flush out ideally that would never", "start": 9666, "end": 9672.04}, {"text": "occur but if it does at least the funds are in escrow I think you Capt I I I had", "start": 9672.04, "end": 9677.399}, {"text": "consider that I think that's an option but I it goes back to the process the mayor was hitting on but I hadn't", "start": 9677.399, "end": 9682.439}, {"text": "thought about that sure yeah I I have the same concerns the councilman has and the concerns that you have to Mr Mayor", "start": 9682.439, "end": 9688.96}, {"text": "on this and further uh I I hate to tell", "start": 9688.96, "end": 9695}, {"text": "any property owner they have to put anything on their property whatsoever I", "start": 9695, "end": 9700.64}, {"text": "think again it could hurt us a business may look at us and say I'm not going there they're telling me what artwork", "start": 9700.64, "end": 9706.479}, {"text": "and they're going to have a committee a government committee that selects it um to me this is just it's a matter of you", "start": 9706.479, "end": 9713.88}, {"text": "know if a business moves in and they want to put some artwork on their property fine they're certainly entitled", "start": 9713.88, "end": 9718.92}, {"text": "to do it again the historical aspect that the councilman raised um there are some there's some pretty", "start": 9718.92, "end": 9726.319}, {"text": "vicious what is that Russians are coming no oh it's my phone is that somebody's", "start": 9726.319, "end": 9733.08}, {"text": "phone that's I haven't heard that one before but again you know there's some", "start": 9733.08, "end": 9738.359}, {"text": "artwork you know especially if it concerns war and history that might", "start": 9738.359, "end": 9744.68}, {"text": "be unacceptable to some people because maybe it shows some violence um but", "start": 9744.68, "end": 9750.479}, {"text": "that's part of our history and so I I just the other concern I have is right", "start": 9750.479, "end": 9756.8}, {"text": "now we start with a certain percentage at what point does that increase and how high does it go because it could", "start": 9756.8, "end": 9763.8}, {"text": "increase over time and so then we're asking more and more of property owners of De Vel opers or Builders or", "start": 9763.8, "end": 9770.479}, {"text": "businesses they're going to pass that along to the consumer even if it's a tiny amount but do we end up increasing", "start": 9770.479, "end": 9776.479}, {"text": "it what will it be 5 years from now we don't know", "start": 9776.479, "end": 9782.52}, {"text": "um also do we end up finding ourselves having to hire additional staff to administer this at some point probably", "start": 9782.52, "end": 9790.279}, {"text": "so that's another expense to our taxpayers so I the way this is I can't support this right now I just can't", "start": 9790.279, "end": 9797.88}, {"text": "councilwoman bring us um thank you so much for your work on this and to Marcus as well for your work", "start": 9797.88, "end": 9803.319}, {"text": "on this I'm in favor of this generally speaking I agree that some changes need to be made so I I think that we need to", "start": 9803.319, "end": 9809.72}, {"text": "keep it at the 05% um it's a small drop in the bucket bucket for these larger commercial", "start": 9809.72, "end": 9816.52}, {"text": "entities but can add up to a lot of money for an art fund that we have never had a dedicated source for and I think", "start": 9816.52, 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acceptable but when this board change is over and inevitably will um who is now going to", "start": 9861.439, "end": 9868.88}, {"text": "be in charge of making those decisions that makes me very nervous it's almost like the book thing in the schools right who chooses the right books and who", "start": 9868.88, "end": 9875.16}, {"text": "chooses the wrong books and I don't want to get into all that so I really think that we do away with the inl I think", "start": 9875.16, "end": 9881.24}, {"text": "that they pay the fee and that be the fee and that's it um I don't know um I I get the intent behind you", "start": 9881.24, "end": 9888.72}, {"text": "know having the other option but I I do think that it it could open up some more issues um as far as the CEO goes that's", "start": 9888.72, "end": 9895.84}, {"text": "a great point maybe we require the fee to be paid within 6 months of getting", "start": 9895.84, "end": 9901.319}, {"text": "the CEO that way it's not held up they get their CEO and they have to pay I", "start": 9901.319, "end": 9906.72}, {"text": "mean and I don't even know if we're getting rid of the inl I mean do we really even need to have the the CEO um", "start": 9906.72, "end": 9914.72}, {"text": "part in there cuz we're getting rid of the inl right they're just going to pay the fee like they do any other impact fee so I think that that kind of takes", "start": 9914.72, "end": 9920.88}, {"text": "care of two birds with one stone if we just say hey this is the fee for the art fund Arts culture and history because I", "start": 9920.88, "end": 9926.399}, {"text": "think we added that right Marcus didn't and we add reference to history as well um and as far as the process goes mayor", "start": 9926.399, "end": 9931.56}, {"text": "I understand your concerned but I think we leave that to staff to come up with the policy as far as um you know", "start": 9931.56, "end": 9937.68}, {"text": "administering the Monies to certain Grant programs and things like that I don't think that needs to be in the ordinance would you would you consider", "start": 9937.68, "end": 9944.92}, {"text": "and this is to your point also uh vice mayor Dan would you consider in the motion that", "start": 9944.92, "end": 9952.6}, {"text": "the percentage that's being presented today was it a half a point be", "start": 9952.6, "end": 9960.04}, {"text": "um restricted to that number at least until there's a comprehensive plan for", "start": 9960.04, "end": 9967.84}, {"text": "art in place and voted on by city council that everybody knew what the", "start": 9967.84, "end": 9974.479}, {"text": "outcome of this collection of funds would be I mean it's it's kind it's a", "start": 9974.479, "end": 9980.52}, {"text": "bit of a restriction it holds the it holds the percentage at a point in time until there's a comprehensive plan for", "start": 9980.52, "end": 9986.04}, {"text": "it doesn't hold it for very long well coming up with a plan like that is is quite a uh but at least you you would", "start": 9986.04, "end": 9992.76}, {"text": "know what it's for at that point then you could say you like it or you don't and maybe you or you don't my other concern is we're almost basically saying", "start": 9992.76, "end": 9999.88}, {"text": "this will be an impact fee it is an impact an impact fee so then what do we if something else comes up we want to", "start": 9999.88, "end": 10006}, {"text": "hit people with another impact fee that doesn't do anything for our infrastructure for the needs that we", "start": 10006, "end": 10012.12}, {"text": "really have as a community which I consider much more important than a piece of artwork on somebody's property", "start": 10012.12, "end": 10018.319}, {"text": "well is that quality of life component which balances Road are quality of life", "start": 10018.319, "end": 10023.359}, {"text": "absolutely you know the whole line yard so I'm concerned that we just will go down this path and then continue to go", "start": 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{"text": "parlay to get into the game here yeah yeah I think as far as to your point", "start": 10066, "end": 10071.24}, {"text": "mayor quality of life you know we have to continue to enrich our community as well um and we want to do that at the", "start": 10071.24, "end": 10079.2}, {"text": "lowest cost to the taxpayer as possible now yes a 05 uh percent", "start": 10079.2, "end": 10086.88}, {"text": "005 um could that in some way be passed on to the end consumer I genuinely don't", "start": 10086.88, "end": 10093.08}, {"text": "think it will um and I think that it's it's low enough to where it's not going to deter businesses because we obviously", "start": 10093.08, "end": 10099.399}, {"text": "don't want to do that furthermore the the cap that we're instituting prevents that from happening as well so I really", "start": 10099.399, "end": 10105.319}, {"text": "do think this is a a very well-rounded ordinance that accomplishes a goal that quite candidly hasn't been able to be", "start": 10105.319, "end": 10111.479}, {"text": "accomplished for how many years councilman kuus it's been a long time that we've been struggling to find Monies to enrich our community in this", "start": 10111.479, "end": 10118.6}, {"text": "way and I we can't leave Arts culture and history aside I I think that it's so", "start": 10118.6, "end": 10124.2}, {"text": "important that we really focus on preserving those things um because as we know if we don't it it it gets shaped by", "start": 10124.2, "end": 10132}, {"text": "the people in power that have the option or or the ability to write history in a way that it it may not have actually", "start": 10132, "end": 10138.479}, {"text": "happened so it's really important that we preserve yeah and the half full uh side of this half full there's a half", "start": 10138.479, "end": 10144.319}, {"text": "empty and half full the half full side is that if in fact the program is successful over the next decade let's", "start": 10144.319, "end": 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Honda restaurant chain as my example so they were the first ones to do the big commercial um um murals on", "start": 10193.6, "end": 10200.88}, {"text": "the outside of their buildings by a um uh a South American Artist I can't remember the name right now um but and", "start": 10200.88, "end": 10207.8}, {"text": "you could make the argument you know did it improve their business model or not you could say either way I don't know", "start": 10207.8, "end": 10213.399}, {"text": "the I'm sure they have statistics on it they may but we don't and that's that's something for a business kind of a and", "start": 10213.399, "end": 10219.76}, {"text": "that's a business model and that's a risk that a business will take to attract customers but again um I'm not", "start": 10219.76, "end": 10226.8}, {"text": "sure where we're at with this because we were discussing um well right now we're at with we're going to be considering", "start": 10226.8, "end": 10233.279}, {"text": "possibly uh a changed 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basically saying pay an impact fee", "start": 10273.359, "end": 10279.52}, {"text": "no no Arts committee no we're going to tell you to put art on your property we're eliminating all of that yes so", "start": 10279.52, "end": 10287.319}, {"text": "it's just an impact fee impact fee it'll be up for the city council to decide how", "start": 10287.319, "end": 10292.88}, {"text": "those monies would be uh expended like we give it to some sort of group organization whatever Grant whatever or", "start": 10292.88, "end": 10300.479}, {"text": "or or an infrastructure component nothing forcing nothing forcing any Property Owners to put anything on their", "start": 10300.479, "end": 10307.12}, {"text": "property that's correct or put it public yeah and no restriction on what they put inside their right well they can put in", "start": 10307.12, "end": 10312.88}, {"text": "whatever they want I guess right um but um and again my my it's a statement for", "start": 10312.88, "end": 10319.88}, {"text": "the Arts in in a small way that we are we're on board we capping this fee for how long I I don't know that we can uh", "start": 10319.88, "end": 10329}, {"text": "well I don't know with regard to the motion uh that's a good can we put a cap", "start": 10329, "end": 10334.319}, {"text": "I mean it could be changed by a future city council so that's why I went with the comprehensive plan because that would kind of identify a timeline for it", "start": 10334.319, "end": 10341.64}, {"text": "but uh you've already made a motion in a second the councilman's asking if you'd", "start": 10341.64, "end": 10347.52}, {"text": "want to add you'd want to take it back start over and put a cap to it uh mayor maybe I can help um it might be", "start": 10347.52, "end": 10354.319}, {"text": "beneficial in after you have adopted the ordinance that staff's come comes up", "start": 10354.319, "end": 10359.76}, {"text": "with that program or that policy by resolution of what you want to um how we", 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10451.16}, {"text": "appreciate Mr her presentation an idea I think it's a good idea that", "start": 10451.16, "end": 10458.84}, {"text": "with the growth we are experiencing also we give some again because we used to", "start": 10458.84, "end": 10465.08}, {"text": "have a great Arts conso here and organization and we had uh symphonic uh", "start": 10465.08, "end": 10471.84}, {"text": "presentations and everything and it would be nice to go back to that because", "start": 10471.84, "end": 10477.16}, {"text": "uh as human beings if we don't have art in our lives we become very rudimentary", "start": 10477.16, "end": 10484.359}, {"text": "rudimentary did I say right and that is art is what enhances an individual and", "start": 10484.359, "end": 10491.319}, {"text": "it makes it better and it makes us look for better options in our lives and I", "start": 10491.319, "end": 10497.359}, {"text": "believe that uh this is uh regarding an impact fee that we're looking for the", "start": 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"topographical survey yes okay and it also provided information about how", "start": 10976.56, "end": 10982.76}, {"text": "drainage solutions could be improved on those properties to make their situations", "start": 10982.76, "end": 10990}, {"text": "better uh the surveyor is doing that yes okay and that was a gift to these 29", "start": 10990, "end": 10996.56}, {"text": "households um each of those EST those surveys were estimated to be in either", "start": 10996.56, "end": 11002.92}, {"text": "$1,500 or more value to them that was no charge to", "start": 11002.92, "end": 11008.239}, {"text": "them uh one our recommendations is the the fix is not one siiz that's all every", "start": 11008.239, "end": 11014.239}, {"text": "property is different uh code enforcement action may be may be possible", "start": 11014.239, "end": 11020.08}, {"text": "remedy um we have identified that there is clean dirt that the city has a", "start": 11020.08, "end": 11028}, {"text": "available that might be available to all Palm Coast residents not just these 29 uh but they would need to be", "start": 11028, "end": 11035.399}, {"text": "addressed verified so that we can identify the fact that if if you were to allow us to use City clean Dirt Pile uh", "start": 11035.399, "end": 11043.92}, {"text": "we would they would have to verify that they actually live in the perimeters of Palm Coast uh limit the amount of dirt", "start": 11043.92, "end": 11051.479}, {"text": "that they can get large quantities uh I mean how many truck loads can they get", "start": 11051.479, "end": 11057.08}, {"text": "so we we have limited to 5 cubic yards we figur something larger than 5 cubic yards would really require mechanical", "start": 11057.08, "end": 11064.88}, {"text": "equipment to spread that dirt on the private property and therefore would trigger a regrade permit", "start": 11064.88, "end": 11072.399}, {"text": "requirement L quick question yes sir what is five cubic five cubic yards is", "start": 11072.399, "end": 11078.72}, {"text": "about um oh gee what can I quit it are we talking the back of a dump truck or the back of a pickup truck or you could", "start": 11078.72, "end": 11085.92}, {"text": "definitely put it in the back of a pickup truck in the back of a pickup absolutely one dump load yeah so the", "start": 11085.92, "end": 11091.88}, {"text": "residents would be responsible for picking up this dirt and spreading it at their own cost and convenience and they", "start": 11091.88, "end": 11099.439}, {"text": "would have to be signing a an agreement with the city which is following that um", "start": 11099.439, "end": 11107.08}, {"text": "the parameters that we outlined for the for them to agree to take them the dirt", "start": 11107.08, "end": 11114.08}, {"text": "so um do we feel that we need to go over the details so I I believe so because this is part", "start": 11114.08, "end": 11121.52}, {"text": "of the resolution this is part your exhibit on the resolution so it's 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if Machinery is used to spread the dirt on the resident property and that was just", "start": 11168.56, "end": 11175.479}, {"text": "the outline of the parameters of the program I understand the city has done this in the past where they have opened", "start": 11175.479, "end": 11181.6}, {"text": "up a dirt donation to Residents before so this is not a New Concept for us the", "start": 11181.6, "end": 11189.279}, {"text": "dirt by the way is dirt that uh the storm water department has has obtained", "start": 11189.279, "end": 11195.76}, {"text": "by regrading the swailes so when we regrade the swailes we take that dirt by dump truck we take it to our dirt site", "start": 11195.76, "end": 11202.279}, {"text": "location which is off of Old Kings Road and we then screen that dirt and it", "start": 11202.279, "end": 11207.76}, {"text": "becomes clean soil and it would be that soil that we would make available for this program so does the surveyor or the", "start": 11207.76, "end": 11216.08}, {"text": "resident have to verify the need or is need not a component of the ask we have", "start": 11216.08, "end": 11222.84}, {"text": "like an unlimited amount of dirt that people can use so we did not put uh any", "start": 11222.84, "end": 11228.279}, {"text": "caveat in there as for the need okay but if we go to the next uh slide this is", "start": 11228.279, "end": 11234.479}, {"text": "some more of the agreement that the resident agrees to in other words that", "start": 11234.479, "end": 11239.88}, {"text": "that by signing this agreement they certify that that the dirt um will not", "start": 11239.88, "end": 11247.2}, {"text": "result in floating adjacent lands so we need to make sure that when they do put dirt on the property they're not", "start": 11247.2, "end": 11252.68}, {"text": "impacting adjacent land that they don't block the existing Drainage Systems whether it's natural or man-made because", "start": 11252.68, "end": 11259.399}, {"text": "we do have quite a bit of preserve area around they are not allowed to destroy", "start": 11259.399, "end": 11264.64}, {"text": "or or the destruction of existing drainage system systems whether it's natural or man-made and that includes", "start": 11264.64, "end": 11270.64}, {"text": "their drainage system on their own property if you recall most residential houses are are designed to have that", "start": 11270.64, "end": 11277.52}, {"text": "horseshoe swell around the property to get the water from the back of the property to the front of the", "start": 11277.52, "end": 11283.399}, {"text": "property erosion or of of the fill or disturb materials onto adjacent lands or", "start": 11283.399, "end": 11289.52}, {"text": "environmentally sensitive areas is also prohibited as well as uh the inadequate", "start": 11289.52, "end": 11295.8}, {"text": "on-site drainage in the vicinity to any existing structure so we want to make", "start": 11295.8, "end": 11301}, {"text": "sure that they're not going to create a problem where they're putting water in their home by raising the back of the", "start": 11301, "end": 11307.68}, {"text": "property and that the dirt must be used on the property that's identified in the agreement so they can't just get dirt", "start": 11307.68, "end": 11314.319}, {"text": "and use it for everybody in the neighborhood not that I think anybody would but uh and then of course the", "start": 11314.319, "end": 11320.279}, {"text": "release and authorization just holds the city harmless for the use of the dirt", "start": 11320.279, "end": 11327.238}, {"text": "so our next steps would be to get your approval to offer the free dirt to the", "start": 11327.84, "end": 11333.92}, {"text": "residents of pal coast and addition to the 29 residents or anybody that was identified as flood issues and um We are", "start": 11333.92, "end": 11342.56}, {"text": "continuing to get the surveys and one by one we are once we get the surveys we're", "start": 11342.56, "end": 11348.479}, {"text": "reviewing them in the in the committee and then we're inviting the homeowners to come into the committee so that we", "start": 11348.479, "end": 11354.279}, {"text": "can go over those surveys with them and make sure that they understand that this", "start": 11354.279, "end": 11359.319}, {"text": "was a uh a free donation from wi coin Associates and um then we have we're", "start": 11359.319, "end": 11368.64}, {"text": "we're ongoing we still have surveys coming in so we've we've determined that", "start": 11368.64, "end": 11375.08}, {"text": "we've once we invite the people to come in and get the surveys uh if they for", "start": 11375.08, "end": 11380.319}, {"text": "some reason don't show up after a second attempt then we will close their case", "start": 11380.319, "end": 11388.681}, {"text": "that's the end of our slideshow and so the question is is that", "start": 11389.239, "end": 11394.84}, {"text": "uh can we get an approval from the city council to approve the dirt donation", "start": 11394.84, "end": 11400.319}, {"text": "offer to not only the 20 the people that are affected by the flooding but it has to be open to all Palm coach residents", "start": 11400.319, "end": 11408.2}, {"text": "and we're not certain that there's going to be a big demand for this but at least we want to ask put the ask through for", "start": 11408.2, "end": 11415.96}, {"text": "you and then it'll be communicated I think through past connect and so forth", "start": 11415.96, "end": 11422.88}, {"text": "letting residents know that that is available to them if they you know can", "start": 11422.88, "end": 11428.439}, {"text": "have the means to agree to the the document we showed earlier and also to get the dirt and spread it themselves", "start": 11428.439, "end": 11434.72}, {"text": "within the legal parameters so so first I'm fine with the", "start": 11434.72, "end": 11441.279}, {"text": "free dirt okay I'm sorry I'm fine with free dirt that's fine that that's great and I want to thank you you and your", "start": 11441.279, "end": 11447.72}, {"text": "committee for dealing with this issue it's been very very difficult as we all know I'm just curious since you're here", "start": 11447.72, "end": 11455.239}, {"text": "um what else have you guys managed to do or not do or can you give us a little", "start": 11455.239, "end": 11461.04}, {"text": "background as to where you're at with your in addition to the surveys and the", "start": 11461.04, "end": 11466.2}, {"text": "dirt offers we have uh we visited with the urban the P Coast urban forestry", "start": 11466.2, "end": 11472.68}, {"text": "division and they have come up with some ideas for drainage uh being able to put", "start": 11472.68, "end": 11478.279}, {"text": "in certain trees or shrubs in areas that that flood that would not encroach on", "start": 11478.279, "end": 11485.479}, {"text": "neighbors but would also help with drainage on their property and is what", "start": 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the people who are were identified by", "start": 11535.64, "end": 11540.68}, {"text": "the storm water department who have flooding issues anybody who has what is it home destructive that needs to have", "start": 11540.68, "end": 11548.04}, {"text": "fixes to their home even roofs uh they can go to this community BL grant", "start": 11548.04, "end": 11553.2}, {"text": "program and get help so have any of our residents been able to get help from", "start": 11553.2, "end": 11558.76}, {"text": "that for this flooding issue so we met with one resident this past Thursday night he came in and and we reviewed his", "start": 11558.76, "end": 11566.68}, {"text": "survey with him um and and we referred them over to Jackie Gonzalez our city", "start": 11566.68, "end": 11573.8}, {"text": "liaison for the community block grant and we're hoping that they will apply I", "start": 11573.8, "end": 11579.72}, {"text": "can't force them to apply if you're not familiar the the Community Development block grant is a loan program it's", "start": 11579.72, "end": 11586.399}, {"text": "really not a grant it's a loan program it is uh up to I believe $50,000 there's", "start": 11586.399, "end": 11592.84}, {"text": "also a ship program done ship with a pee done through the county uh which is another program that's", "start": 11592.84, "end": 11599.2}, {"text": "available to Residents there are Income restrictions we felt that that this particular resident that we met with", "start": 11599.2, "end": 11605.6}, {"text": "last Thursday May just qualify for some of that um this program is a 10-year", "start": 11605.6, "end": 11612}, {"text": "payback so it's zero interest it's a zero interest loan up to $50,000 if they qualify based on", "start": 11612, "end": 11619.96}, {"text": "income it's zero interest interest loan uh after 5 years the loan starts to drop", "start": 11619.96, "end": 11626.68}, {"text": "in a amount by 20% per year and at the end of 10 years if the resident is still in the home the loan is 100% forgiven so", "start": 11626.68, "end": 11634.88}, {"text": "and if I'm not mistaken uh if the resident for some reason has to leave that home or move the the lean is still", "start": 11634.88, "end": 11642.56}, {"text": "in effect when somebody sells a home but it uh it", "start": 11642.56, "end": 11649.239}, {"text": "is Forgiven at the end of 10 years no so uh another question one of my hopes with", "start": 11649.239, "end": 11656.12}, {"text": "this committee when we first established it was that we would be able to get some of our home", "start": 11656.12, "end": 11661.84}, {"text": "builders some of our businesses um to step forward and help some of our", "start": 11661.84, "end": 11667.2}, {"text": "residents out of the goodness of their hearts you know whether whether it's sub pumps or drainage French drains whatever", "start": 11667.2, "end": 11673.72}, {"text": "each property I know is very different obviously have we had any luck from our home builders community so we met with", "start": 11673.72, "end": 11680.8}, {"text": "the Home Builders Association um I I think that might be something that the committee should further invest", "start": 11680.8, "end": 11687.439}, {"text": "investigate uh is pursuing that a little further Mr Wilcox was the first one to step up to the plate I think the rest of", "start": 11687.439, "end": 11694}, {"text": "the builders are are kind of waiting to see what is their resolution and once we", "start": 11694, "end": 11699.56}, {"text": "get some of these surveys back and again we've only received six of the 29 surveys back so once we get some more of", "start": 11699.56, "end": 11705.84}, {"text": "those surveys back we'll be able to reapo the Home Builders Association and", "start": 11705.84, "end": 11711.16}, {"text": "some of the builders in the area to see if that's an option we have some we have some decent people in that community no", "start": 11711.16, "end": 11717.84}, {"text": "doubt and I would certainly hope that you could encourage them to step up and make a contribution they could probably", "start": 11717.84, "end": 11723.68}, {"text": "write it off on their taxes uh whatever but just helping one neighbor helping another I think is part of why we", "start": 11723.68, "end": 11730.72}, {"text": "established this so uh I wish you luck going forward and I want to thank you for what you've done so far it's a", "start": 11730.72, "end": 11737.72}, {"text": "difficult situation well the home builders that we met with were had some concerns about helping with some of", "start": 11737.72, "end": 11745.239}, {"text": "these homes because if they were to attempt to fix a problem for the", "start": 11745.239, "end": 11751.279}, {"text": "homeowner they then own the problem and that's a concern for these people that", "start": 11751.279, "end": 11757.8}, {"text": "they might they might get themselves into a bind by doing something like this", "start": 11757.8, "end": 11762.96}, {"text": "would have to be some kind of legal exemption sort of you know if you accepted their help I think that's a", "start": 11762.96, "end": 11769.12}, {"text": "reasonable thing that's what their concerns were though yeah sure thank you for the work that you've", "start": 11769.12, "end": 11775.239}, {"text": "done on this um and thank you to the committee as a whole I know it's a volunteer committee so I appreciate you", "start": 11775.239, "end": 11780.399}, {"text": "guys um and thank you Lynn as well for being the liais on for the city and the committee uh the only thing that I would", "start": 11780.399, "end": 11787}, {"text": "like to add to the agreement underneath the parameter parameters of the program", "start": 11787, "end": 11793}, {"text": "if we can add a number six that says um that the dirt will be for personal use", "start": 11793, "end": 11798.68}, {"text": "only and not for resale I again I don't I would hate to think that people would do that um but I wouldn't 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11930.239}, {"text": "Company this would be the document they would provide the company to come in the information is necessary great wonderful", "start": 11930.239, "end": 11935.88}, {"text": "and uh counselor I guess because we're going to get to this sooner or later um I guess it could follow a motion but", "start": 11935.88, "end": 11944.319}, {"text": "um uh in terms of uh monetary um", "start": 11944.319, "end": 11950.76}, {"text": "relief for homeowners that have had an issue um it was briefly or casually", "start": 11950.76, "end": 11956.399}, {"text": "mentioned mentioned uh in your introduction um where is that or where", "start": 11956.399, "end": 11962.6}, {"text": "can that go or not go so Financial relief for property", "start": 11962.6, "end": 11968.359}, {"text": "owners that have experienced um water intrusion I I I don't have the", "start": 11968.359, "end": 11975.76}, {"text": "facts to to have an answer on that unfortunately and that would be Case by case or there's no spefic and that's if", "start": 11975.76, "end": 11982.279}, {"text": "you know this is the solution like hopefully it is a solution but it would be facts by facts scenario okay all right so that would be", "start": 11982.279, "end": 11990.12}, {"text": "an ongoing discussion I guess within your committee yes yes all right very good all right um in advance I did", "start": 11990.12, "end": 11997.399}, {"text": "before in advance of a motion let's open it up to the public uh anybody want to comment on this initiative um or this", "start": 11997.399, "end": 12006.08}, {"text": "presentation at this time", "start": 12006.08, "end": 12010.04}, {"text": "Jeremy Davis P section free dirt thank you 5 cubic yards I I you've been to my", "start": 12017.04, "end": 12023.279}, {"text": "home you know that's not going to help me it's hilarious again thank you for trying I", "start": 12023.279, "end": 12031.479}, {"text": "yeah man you know this is a waste of my", "start": 12031.92, "end": 12038.56}, {"text": "time y'all have wasted nothing but my time cuz we all know the damn problem", "start": 12038.56, "end": 12044.92}, {"text": "there's a 4T home found Foundation higher next to me you think 5 cubic yards of dirt is going to help they", "start": 12044.92, "end": 12050.56}, {"text": "already gave me free dirt do I need more free dirt no and I got to get a permit", "start": 12050.56, "end": 12055.84}, {"text": "to regrade but they didn't get a permit to grade my yard when they messed up right again no accountability thank you", "start": 12055.84, "end": 12063.84}, {"text": "again for this Community or committee sorry it it's ridiculous I", "start": 12063.84, "end": 12070}, {"text": "shouldn't have to come up here every damn meeting and ask for y'all to help", "start": 12070, "end": 12075.08}, {"text": "of something that y'all created by signing off on the approval of of the property next to me each and every one", "start": 12075.08, "end": 12082.6}, {"text": "of you know that's wrong when you stood at my house mayor you knew that was", "start": 12082.6, "end": 12087.84}, {"text": "wrong that's why you had Jason write the variants for my 8ot fence I used to have", "start": 12087.84, "end": 12093.239}, {"text": "a 4-foot fence cuz I enjoyed looking at my neighbors unfortunately I can't look at", "start": 12093.239, "end": 12098.319}, {"text": "my neighbors anymore I have my own little private", "start": 12098.319, "end": 12103.358}, {"text": "compound but none of y'all give a about me at", "start": 12104.16, "end": 12109.6}, {"text": "all nobody nobody has been accountable for none of", "start": 12109.76, "end": 12114.8}, {"text": "this the only thing that has caused all of this is y'all raising the land if you", "start": 12114.8, "end": 12121.52}, {"text": "want higher homes put them on stilts there's the damn solution it didn't take me years to figure that out we do it out", "start": 12121.52, "end": 12129.08}, {"text": "on the coast if that's what y'all want to do that's what you do here you don't just bring in dirt where do you think", "start": 12129.08, "end": 12134.8}, {"text": "the water's going to go it has no it goes somewhere it's called water displacement and here I'm not even a", "start": 12134.8, "end": 12140.8}, {"text": "scientist and I can figure that out it's amazing very very very amazing how", "start": 12140.8, "end": 12146.72}, {"text": "I can figure that out and none of you none of y'all can figure it", "start": 12146.72, "end": 12153}, {"text": "out so simple but yet we just sit here and kick the damn can around here we we", "start": 12153.56, "end": 12159.279}, {"text": "H get a committee ask for grants that you want me to take a damn loan out to", "start": 12159.279, "end": 12164.359}, {"text": "help for the problem that y'all created that's some funny", "start": 12164.359, "end": 12170.04}, {"text": "too like I said y'all are testing my damn patience come up with real", "start": 12170.319, "end": 12176.279}, {"text": "solutions real solutions yes", "start": 12176.279, "end": 12183.72}, {"text": "ma'am CIA in PCO since 91 first of all I", "start": 12189.319, "end": 12194.72}, {"text": "have to take my hat out to Mrs stanel here because they're trying to do", "start": 12194.72, "end": 12200.56}, {"text": "everything they can but it what they're doing unfortunately the guidance that they", "start": 12200.56, "end": 12207.479}, {"text": "might be receiving from the responsibles of allowing this houses to", "start": 12207.479, "end": 12213.08}, {"text": "be to be built higher is not what they really need I am not an engineer but I", "start": 12213.08, "end": 12220.08}, {"text": "build we help build our own house 3,000 square ft up in New Jersey Freedom Township on 58", "start": 12220.08, "end": 12227.279}, {"text": "and I know that this dirt solution is just for these people I give", "start": 12227.279, "end": 12234.68}, {"text": "you the dirt you do all the work transportation and it's not going to work but you sign me a a free of", "start": 12234.68, "end": 12241.16}, {"text": "responsibility a Hold You harmless this is not the solution for these people", "start": 12241.16, "end": 12246.64}, {"text": "this gentleman I see the pictures of the water the the dirt coming into his", "start": 12246.64, "end": 12252.96}, {"text": "pool this is a responsibility of the City when they did approve the", "start": 12252.96, "end": 12259.08}, {"text": "survey 24156 C and D they were supposed to do", "start": 12259.08, "end": 12267.199}, {"text": "approve or not approve and they approved the Builder that build a house", "start": 12267.199, "end": 12273.68}, {"text": "is responsible to do the proper drainage why isn't that able to be", "start": 12273.68, "end": 12279.399}, {"text": "enforced now it won't cost them a fortune it won't but they they will be", "start": 12279.399, "end": 12285.199}, {"text": "able to dream to to uh to build a proper drainage with a corrugated pipe under", "start": 12285.199, "end": 12291.08}, {"text": "the ground with the proper pitch towards the street and and that doesn't cost a", "start": 12291.08, "end": 12297.12}, {"text": "fortune and why are we giving into greed these people is trying to do all they", "start": 12297.12, "end": 12303}, {"text": "can and it's not sufficient and I can see it now that this is not going to work you are putting on the on the back", "start": 12303, "end": 12310.239}, {"text": "of this already affected homeowners the whole cost and work of doing that", "start": 12310.239, "end": 12316.92}, {"text": "and you know what I'm going to tell you right now it's not going to work amount won't work the only thing that will work", "start": 12316.92, "end": 12324.68}, {"text": "is a proper pipe underground not that much underground just barely overleveled", "start": 12324.68, "end": 12331}, {"text": "properly towards where the water is supposed to go and that's what they have to do so this is not going to 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hopefully a large number of", "start": 12375.52, "end": 12382.56}, {"text": "those properties um I have great confidence in their ability so I appreciate your building that", "start": 12382.56, "end": 12387.72}, {"text": "relationship with them that's really very nice and generous of them to to have offered that I would like to give a", "start": 12387.72, "end": 12395.439}, {"text": "great deal of credit to Lynn stev she has been um the the the center of our", "start": 12395.439, "end": 12403.88}, {"text": "ability to bring people into the committee and uh she deserves a great deal of thanks for this very good Lynn I", "start": 12403.88, "end": 12413.16}, {"text": "just have a question I want to make sure we clarify something with our new rules this can never happen again right so we", "start": 12413.16, "end": 12419.56}, {"text": "do have the new technical manual which will not allow those houses to be built more than 10 inches higher than the", "start": 12419.56, "end": 12424.88}, {"text": "houses next door right so it's the problem in the past not going forward that when I want to make sure people", "start": 12424.88, "end": 12431.279}, {"text": "understand that um I also want to make sure people understand that none of us up here", "start": 12431.279, "end": 12436.72}, {"text": "approve every single house that's built in the city um so that failure is", "start": 12436.72, "end": 12442.319}, {"text": "something that happened that that we were all literally caught off guard on", "start": 12442.319, "end": 12447.8}, {"text": "unfortunately but we do have a problem out there and as we've heard from Mr Davis he's very frustrated I don't blame", "start": 12447.8, "end": 12454.68}, {"text": "him if I had water coming into my house in my pool you know in that situation I", "start": 12454.68, "end": 12459.88}, {"text": "I would be frustrated I know the mayor was frustrated when he went out there to see it so um you know your Comm moving", "start": 12459.88, "end": 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"forward to fix those problems permanently because it's", "start": 12511.84, "end": 12517.359}, {"text": "it's you know it's people's homes it it's where they live so the frustration", "start": 12517.359, "end": 12523.6}, {"text": "for any of us would be the same um without a doubt so it's a big task we're", "start": 12523.6, "end": 12530.12}, {"text": "still looking for other Solutions but this is what we have so far MH and", "start": 12530.12, "end": 12536.72}, {"text": "um I just I think that you know having the dirt I am not certain that very many", "start": 12536.72, "end": 12543.199}, {"text": "people will participate in that uh but at least that will give them", "start": 12543.199, "end": 12549.439}, {"text": "a way to backfill some things if they don't go out of the I get it but I think", "start": 12549.439, "end": 12555.72}, {"text": "some of these homes are going to require a much bigger fix may an expensive fix", "start": 12555.72, "end": 12562.04}, {"text": "probably um but we just can't let people hang out there you know and turn our", "start": 12562.04, "end": 12569.199}, {"text": "backs well with the community block grant offer uh that might help people", "start": 12569.199, "end": 12574.76}, {"text": "solve that problem because the community block grant program would pay for all of it and it's they told us that it was", "start": 12574.76, "end": 12582.319}, {"text": "about a six-month process to go through it so provided they me the income", "start": 12582.319, "end": 12588.319}, {"text": "guidelines uh then those people could get some help yeah that's a good step", "start": 12588.319, "end": 12594.12}, {"text": "but you know consider those people that may not meet those income deadlines why should", "start": 12594.12, "end": 12601.84}, {"text": "they have to reach into their own Pockets to fix a problem they didn't create um you know I don't think any of", "start": 12601.84, "end": 12609.08}, {"text": "us would want to do it yeah I agree but you know 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distribution not the distribution but", "start": 12653.319, "end": 12658.8}, {"text": "the the offer of the um the dirt as a as a uh a compliment to the surveyor's uh", "start": 12658.8, "end": 12666.04}, {"text": "um instructions or or directions okay with that one caveat that you", "start": 12666.04, "end": 12673.04}, {"text": "can't uh with the caveat that it be used", "start": 12673.04, "end": 12678.239}, {"text": "for do I have a motion I'll make a motion for approval so appr you got", "start": 12678.239, "end": 12683.56}, {"text": "approval with the additional caveat that you can't sell the dirt right okay so we have a motion to approve", "start": 12683.56, "end": 12690.76}, {"text": "the uh free dirt free dirt I will call it okay I can't think of a better way to say it um sounds like a name of a rock", "start": 12690.76, "end": 12697.479}, {"text": "band is there is there a second and I have a second from councilman gber any other", "start": 12697.479, "end": 12703.239}, {"text": "discussion councelor anything we have to add to that motion is that clear enough that is clear okay um then all in favor", "start": 12703.239, "end": 12710.8}, {"text": "please signify by saying I I are there any opposed clerk has okay thank", "start": 12710.8, "end": 12718.08}, {"text": "you um counselor if you would bring in number H9", "start": 12718.08, "end": 12726.079}, {"text": "please good job read it in for us resolution 2024 dxx approving", "start": 12726.359, "end": 12733.319}, {"text": "proposed updates and changes to current that", "start": 12733.319, "end": 12738.399}, {"text": "policy good afternoon mayor city council Helena Al your financial services director so this is a followup to the", "start": 12740.96, "end": 12748.56}, {"text": "presentation of October 8th where we had Bond Council here presenting changes to", "start": 12748.56, "end": 12754.239}, {"text": "the uh current debt policy there were two follow-up items requested by", "start": 12754.239, "end": 12760}, {"text": "Council one of those was updating the backloading to be interest uh fixed", "start": 12760, "end": 12765.6}, {"text": "interest interest only and that change is reflected on page two of the updated", "start": 12765.6, "end": 12771.64}, {"text": "policy no sorry page four of the updated policy the other change was to help uh", "start": 12771.64, "end": 12778.04}, {"text": "ad verbiage to prioritize debt structures within current existing rates", "start": 12778.04, "end": 12784.439}, {"text": "and bond Council found that that would fit under pledged revenues and that", "start": 12784.439, "end": 12789.8}, {"text": "language has been added on page two", "start": 12789.8, "end": 12795.08}, {"text": "do we have any questions regarding the proposed updates give us a second um any uh questions here Council ml is any", "start": 12797.76, "end": 12805.16}, {"text": "questions on the on the debt policy from our ask at the last uh I guess was it our last meeting or the meeting before I", "start": 12805.16, "end": 12810.88}, {"text": "forget it was October 8th actually um is that", "start": 12810.88, "end": 12816.681}, {"text": "adequately counc okay is there some direction that you're asking uh yes I", "start": 12817.76, "end": 12822.96}, {"text": "would SE approval of the resolution for the up as those changes that is correct okay so then I would ask for a motion", "start": 12822.96, "end": 12829.439}, {"text": "I'll make that motion to approve vice mayor has made a motion to approve the", "start": 12829.439, "end": 12835.12}, {"text": "uh resolution which reflects City council's uh correct changes um at the", "start": 12835.12, "end": 12843.96}, {"text": "last meeting is there a second a second I have a second from councilwoman pontier is there any further", "start": 12843.96, "end": 12850.72}, {"text": "discussion all in favor please signify by saying I I are there there any", "start": 12850.72, "end": 12857.279}, {"text": "opposed Mr Mayor I don't think we need a public comment for that do I'm sorry did I miss that yes so let me take that back", "start": 12857.279, "end": 12865.359}, {"text": "uh are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this item at this", "start": 12865.359, "end": 12870.92}, {"text": "time seeing no one come forward I'll close public comment and I'll repeat um", "start": 12870.92, "end": 12876.16}, {"text": "we have a motion and a second um is there any further discussion all in favor please signify", "start": 12876.16, "end": 12883.479}, {"text": "by saying I I I are there any opposed the motion passes unanimously very good", "start": 12883.479, "end": 12888.72}, {"text": "thank you councelor is that thank you phison good okay so we now move down to", "start": 12888.72, "end": 12895.16}, {"text": "Mayor if I could just interrupt you for one moment um I have an appointment that", "start": 12895.16, "end": 12900.319}, {"text": "I have to go to I had idea we're going to be here this L understood um on this last thing as far as the John Nets", "start": 12900.319, "end": 12907.319}, {"text": "Community Center would you like me to move that up in the order real quick or not it sits on yeah I just want to I've", "start": 12907.319, "end": 12913.68}, {"text": "have to go I'll just leave you guys with my thoughts on this very quickly if I", "start": 12913.68, "end": 12918.92}, {"text": "could would you like us to address it and I can move it in the agenda real quick because I think it would be inappropriate to James is presenting on", "start": 12918.92, "end": 12925}, {"text": "it now yeah is that okay if we change the agenda or not no we no we're already", "start": 12925, "end": 12930.239}, {"text": "on it but I have to go saying okay so I just wanted to just my thoughts whatever", "start": 12930.239, "end": 12935.84}, {"text": "you guys decide to do you do I I honestly am not big on naming buildings I said that before or naming anything", "start": 12935.84, "end": 12943.68}, {"text": "but I might suggest that this just a suggestion you guys hash it out that", "start": 12943.68, "end": 12949.04}, {"text": "this becomes a ballot issue that we let the public decide things like this that's just my two cents and I'm going", "start": 12949.04, "end": 12956}, {"text": "to leave it there but I have to go okay it's been real it's been great it hasn't been real great you know but I'll see", "start": 12956, "end": 12962.16}, {"text": "you come thank you absolutely we'll talk Nick see you later take care buddy uh clerk just make a note um James please", "start": 12962.16, "end": 12969.96}, {"text": "okay good afternoon James Hurst Parks and Recreation director uh so today's presentation I'm sorry did we read that", "start": 12969.96, "end": 12977.439}, {"text": "resolution in yet oh sorry yeah no please", "start": 12977.439, "end": 12983.92}, {"text": "do all right uh resolution 2024 dxx renaming the pal Coast Community Center", "start": 12983.92, "end": 12989.359}, {"text": "to the John Nets Community Center thanks Marcus um so yeah this is to", "start": 12989.359, "end": 12995.479}, {"text": "presentation is for renaming the palast community center to the John Nets Community Center uh just for those who", "start": 12995.479, "end": 13000.56}, {"text": "are new on the on the council um the city has a policy that was dra Ed in", "start": 13000.56, "end": 13006.16}, {"text": "2020 2021 um to for nominations to name fac", "start": 13006.16, "end": 13012.239}, {"text": "City facilities but more more like Parks streets sidewalks Pavements things like", "start": 13012.239, "end": 13019.08}, {"text": "that um and so what you tend to happens the city manager or myself will get a", "start": 13019.08, "end": 13024.76}, {"text": "nomination form um we will then put it on the beac agenda um and then the beac", "start": 13024.76, "end": 13031.92}, {"text": "approves it to come to city council for their final approval so quickly just a 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Governor Charlie Christ um and then also he was a big part in the Florida Fish", "start": 13080.72, "end": 13087.279}, {"text": "and Wildlife Commission and then he was recognized twice as citizens of the year for the Palm Coast Elks", "start": 13087.279, "end": 13094.08}, {"text": "Lodge um here would be just a quick concept design of what it would look like at the community center um so it", "start": 13094.08, "end": 13101.199}, {"text": "just be that sign that faces pal Coast Parkway going westbound um that's right", "start": 13101.199, "end": 13106.92}, {"text": "there at the intersection and then yeah just looking", "start": 13106.92, "end": 13112.72}, {"text": "for approval by city council to rename the community center the John Nets Community Center May I um make a", "start": 13112.72, "end": 13122.72}, {"text": "comment uh I think I was a thorn in the side of this process when we did it um a", "start": 13122.72, "end": 13128.64}, {"text": "year or two ago I forget how long ago 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you why because you're right with so many new", "start": 13355.319, "end": 13360.68}, {"text": "people coming to the area they would have no idea what his accomplishments are are um and I think that's even", "start": 13360.68, "end": 13367.68}, {"text": "reflected today I think a great number of our residents probably don't know any of this would you allow the committee", "start": 13367.68, "end": 13373.399}, {"text": "the opportunity to educate the the residents on on on who this person is to", "start": 13373.399, "end": 13380.279}, {"text": "win their support and endorsement approval because I hate to I hate to move forward with something that you're", "start": 13380.279, "end": 13385.88}, {"text": "going to get a lot of push back on because then it's kind of like a black eyy that's what's bothering me may i' just like to touch on something you know", "start": 13385.88, "end": 13391.88}, {"text": "something that we thought about at the community center too was once if this was 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over is does this open the flood gate to a a a a whole stack of naming", "start": 13429, "end": 13438.279}, {"text": "requests I already have dibs on the southern Recreation Center so so so mayor that's actually my", "start": 13438.279, "end": 13444.399}, {"text": "concern is um I this is not personal to U Mr Nets at all it wouldn't matter if", "start": 13444.399, "end": 13452.04}, {"text": "whose name we were talking about in my opinion I have a very OB Ive opinion that we should not be naming buildings", "start": 13452.04, "end": 13459.239}, {"text": "of this magnitude after individuals and the reason for that is it's five people sitting on this", "start": 13459.239, "end": 13466.239}, {"text": "board naming something pretty substantial in our community um I I'm", "start": 13466.239, "end": 13472}, {"text": "all for honoring him and what he's done for our community I have a question what", "start": 13472, "end": 13477.439}, {"text": "are what do we call the the current rooms inside 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"end": 13520.479}, {"text": "that it's more just you know everybody should be able to enjoy the community", "start": 13520.479, "end": 13525.68}, {"text": "center and so to name it after somebody that maybe PE certain people in the", "start": 13525.68, "end": 13530.76}, {"text": "community didn't feel like they were serviced by his policymaking as I'm sure there are people in the community who", "start": 13530.76, "end": 13535.92}, {"text": "disagree with policies that all of us have made up here in one way or the other so I I'm not in favor of of this", "start": 13535.92, "end": 13543.04}, {"text": "I'm in favor of honoring him and others who have also contributed to our community like this um just not in this", "start": 13543.04, "end": 13549.239}, {"text": "way so um mayor if I can staff is following your adopted public naming", "start": 13549.239, "end": 13555.159}, {"text": "policy that city council um adopted in September of 2021 so if you are looking", "start": 13555.159, "end": 13561.279}, {"text": "to revise that policy by resolution we would need to revisit the policy and the", "start": 13561.279, "end": 13567.96}, {"text": "process but the application that you have before you today is following that process that was adopted by city council", "start": 13567.96, "end": 13574.52}, {"text": "councilman yes uh thank you uh acting city manager this I was actually going to hit that", "start": 13574.52, "end": 13580.8}, {"text": "point because there's there's concerns here and if that's the case we have to rewrite our policy because the", "start": 13580.8, "end": 13587.239}, {"text": "resolution totally allows for it it absolutely does um and so I", "start": 13587.239, "end": 13594}, {"text": "mean are we are we ready to rewrite this policy to meet kind of the newer", "start": 13594, "end": 13599.56}, {"text": "consensus uh from from a previous city council moving forward listen I I love", "start": 13599.56, "end": 13605.12}, {"text": "John Nets too I I worked with him when I was on the school board right we we got a lot of great things done um and he was", "start": 13605.12, "end": 13610.6}, {"text": "an advocate for our school district um uh but if it's I I'm I'm more concerned", "start": 13610.6, "end": 13617.439}, {"text": "right now on the process and um if if we are truly going to try to revisit it", "start": 13617.439, "end": 13624.92}, {"text": "then then we need to go do that and then and and then come back and take a look at this U because I mean so you're", "start": 13624.92, "end": 13631.6}, {"text": "talking so the objectives of our policy says city parks facc fa ities recreational area streets municipal", "start": 13631.6, "end": 13637.159}, {"text": "buildings and specialized areas easily identified and located and we've done this right Ralph Carter park next to", "start": 13637.159, "end": 13643.96}, {"text": "where I live right was probably passed under this policy I mean can can you answer that question it was way before", 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{"text": "interest in tabling in terms of of uh updating this uh um what what is this uh", "start": 13692.239, "end": 13700.319}, {"text": "this resolution ordinance I guess I'm a big fan of John Nets and I", "start": 13700.319, "end": 13706.279}, {"text": "want to get I I want to see him get his due recognition without a doubt and and", "start": 13706.279, "end": 13712.12}, {"text": "and and I'll be I'll be here to help you know Shepherd that with with councilman pontier I fear that may not happen", "start": 13712.12, "end": 13718.479}, {"text": "though you don't think so I'm just being honest just just in just being absolute honest in my heart of hearts I don't", "start": 13718.479, "end": 13724.159}, {"text": "know if that'll happen and I think this might be one of the last opportunities to do something like this to be honest and I'm just saying that from my heart", "start": 13724.159, "end": 13729.319}, {"text": "no political reasoning at all I don't know uh Miss pontier um I don't she", "start": 13729.319, "end": 13735}, {"text": "wasn't here to enjoy John Net's I wasn't I mean she did you know and I don't think many of the future council member", "start": 13735, "end": 13741.159}, {"text": "I I don't want to speak for them but I fear that's just my two cents I would councilman pontier suggestion of um of", "start": 13741.159, "end": 13749.08}, {"text": "of a room in the building was that uh get you in terms of a like Legacy I like", "start": 13749.08, "end": 13755}, {"text": "the idea of John Being John N Community Center that's uh I like that", "start": 13755, "end": 13760.319}, {"text": "idea okay um so the question is do we approve this", "start": 13760.319, "end": 13766}, {"text": "with our current the question on the table is yeah we're either going to approve it we're going to vote on this or do we or do we table it and and", "start": 13766, "end": 13773.359}, {"text": "review the that would depend on the motion well there's no motion yet the the other thing too is also my position", "start": 13773.359, "end": 13779.68}, {"text": "would be we have these phenomenal uh centers like this community center this is one of the first things that voted on", "start": 13779.68, "end": 13785}, {"text": "8 years ago and it's transformative that old place was a bunker there's no windows no nothing and we have these", "start": 13785, "end": 13790.04}, {"text": "beautiful facilities I think that these are things that uh and this is just my take that we should be naming for you", "start": 13790.04, "end": 13795.84}, {"text": "know founding members of our community or things like that don't shy away from uh you know being bold bold people make", "start": 13795.84, "end": 13801.72}, {"text": "bold moves and I think that if we say hey no longer are we going to have names on anything then we lose a little bit of", "start": 13801.72, "end": 13807.399}, {"text": "our uh you know resilience thing because the next thing on the list is sooner or later it's going to be this building I", "start": 13807.399, "end": 13813.359}, {"text": "mean I can I can feel it already and I can just imagine you know the the lineup of names", "start": 13813.359, "end": 13819.76}, {"text": "that many or all of whom may be very deserving I'm not one to be able to", "start": 13819.76, "end": 13825.199}, {"text": "decide how to how to do such a thing um all right well I'll open up for uh", "start": 13825.199, "end": 13831.72}, {"text": "unless there's other comment right now I think I got everybody's gist on this uh public comment", "start": 13831.72, "end": 13838.6}, {"text": "Celia Celia p i once since in PCOS I have to disagree Mr Mayor with Mr kuas", "start": 13842.52, "end": 13849.399}, {"text": "when he says we have this thank you to Mr uh uh next you know we had a", "start": 13849.399, "end": 13855.6}, {"text": "referendum on which the people voted not yet not forever but not yet we are not", "start": 13855.6, "end": 13861.96}, {"text": "financially capable yet to have this there was a referendum we voted by", "start": 13861.96, "end": 13867.52}, {"text": "Landslide no to the city council and Mr um Mr Nets built it anyway Mr", "start": 13867.52, "end": 13875.439}, {"text": "wanted to have in the first meeting I was in the city council uh attending he", "start": 13875.439, "end": 13880.56}, {"text": "wanted to have a business of uh his uh saltwater front and I was the person", "start": 13880.56, "end": 13886.92}, {"text": "that stood up there and I said who is this new person here that for the first time request to have from a seaw wall", "start": 13886.92, "end": 13894.76}, {"text": "that is built just for us to go to the intra Coastal to have a business with the storage com uh Fuel and everything", "start": 13894.76, "end": 13901.76}, {"text": "there oh we don't know we don't know finally I demanded to know and I said oh well it's Mr Nets he's not AB he's", "start": 13901.76, "end": 13909.08}, {"text": "absent today you know he wanted to do things like that and also the problems", "start": 13909.08, "end": 13914.72}, {"text": "that we have in Florida Park Drive with all this traffic to today was originated by his administration and with the", "start": 13914.72, "end": 13921.12}, {"text": "approval of Mr D Lorenzo to close Forest Grove and delete all those 5,000 cars", "start": 13921.12, "end": 13927.399}, {"text": "into what is today Florida Par Drive and many more other things if you look at", "start": 13927.399, "end": 13932.72}, {"text": "social media you're going to see how many people oppose Mr Nets uh this community center to be called uh John", "start": 13932.72, "end": 13940.12}, {"text": "Nets and the suggestion of Mrs poner is a great suggestion because also is the", "start": 13940.12, "end": 13946.92}, {"text": "cost to the taxpayers do you mind tell me give me a number how much that Monument is going to cost to all of us", "start": 13946.92, "end": 13953.6}, {"text": "not only the monument all the the letterheads and everything that is used", "start": 13953.6, "end": 13959.319}, {"text": "in the community center and everything that is named in the community center to be changed to be John Nets Community", "start": 13959.319, "end": 13965.88}, {"text": "Center imagine how much is the cost could you tell me how much is the cost to us the taxpayers we're denying money", "start": 13965.88, "end": 13972}, {"text": "to be spend in Florida par dve for people to save their lives from this traffic that is crazy coming in there", "start": 13972, "end": 13978.12}, {"text": "and it's going to get worse with waa now but we are proposing this expenditure", "start": 13978.12, "end": 13983.479}, {"text": "this Monument for this community center we like the community center to be called Community Center call him on a", "start": 13983.479, "end": 13990.88}, {"text": "park on another but she is right it's going to be very expensive to start", "start": 13990.88, "end": 13997.399}, {"text": "putting names in all these places in when they started the building in the administration building in the county", "start": 13997.399, "end": 14003.279}, {"text": "they wanted to put their names there you know who opposed those names I still have the letters to them and to the", "start": 14003.279, "end": 14009.68}, {"text": "media and I oppose the the that monument in the the Tash Mahal to be called uh", "start": 14009.68, "end": 14015.6}, {"text": "the names of the five Commissioners I said dedicate that to our veterans and", "start": 14015.6, "end": 14021.439}, {"text": "our armed forces and our veterans and that's what that building today r that way so please don't start calling names", "start": 14021.439, "end": 14028.6}, {"text": "to the building thank you all right if there's any additional comment uh May", "start": 14028.6, "end": 14033.8}, {"text": "mayor if I can I just wanted to um refresh City council's memory bank on how we got here right so um this", "start": 14033.8, "end": 14040.68}, {"text": "actually was a city council strategic action plan priority for um to conduct", "start": 14040.68, "end": 14046.64}, {"text": "for staff to provide an inventory of potential facilities according to our public renaming policy in honor of Mayor", "start": 14046.64, "end": 14054}, {"text": "net so it started out as your sap we adopted the policy um and then there's", "start": 14054, "end": 14059.199}, {"text": "been several great um from the policy several great things that have happened", "start": 14059.199, "end": 14064.64}, {"text": "through it like the out Cryer Trail the Shirley Chisum Trail the Jim Canfield", "start": 14064.64, "end": 14070.399}, {"text": "Museum the art Dyke Research Center um just to and the um Doug Berry Hill Field", "start": 14070.399, "end": 14076.439}, {"text": "so that's how the policy kind of came out of inception was through your strategic action plan so just wanted to", "start": 14076.439, "end": 14082.52}, {"text": "provide that little bit of history for you I mean I think the AL prior path is a tremendous accomplishment right yep", "start": 14082.52, "end": 14089.399}, {"text": "and it's also a trail it's I mean it's just different in magnitude that's all and and and I get and I get Mayor Net's", "start": 14089.399, "end": 14095.84}, {"text": "magnitude may be obviously more than Mr CER but naming things is still tomato", "start": 14095.84, "end": 14101.08}, {"text": "tomato all right I'm looking for a motion I'll I'll move I I think we have more public comment though oh oh are you", "start": 14101.08, "end": 14107.04}, {"text": "public comment go ahead first stone U 70 Woods", "start": 14107.04, "end": 14115.76}, {"text": "I don't I wasn't here when Mr Nets ran", "start": 14115.76, "end": 14121.199}, {"text": "the city but I heard through a lot of people he was not the best so when you", "start": 14121.199, "end": 14127.279}, {"text": "got someone who was 88 years old and a citizen walking the streets riding his", 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think you should think of it taking", "start": 14188.159, "end": 14194.12}, {"text": "our's plaque and moving it over to the community center we have really be", "start": 14194.12, "end": 14200.72}, {"text": "recognized thank you okay is there any other comment yes", "start": 14200.72, "end": 14206.96}, {"text": "sir uh St car palom co what do you think John Nets would", "start": 14209.439, "end": 14215.72}, {"text": "say do you say would you think he would say give this money back to the", "start": 14215.72, "end": 14220.96}, {"text": "community to help with the infrastructure I'm just asking what", "start": 14220.96, "end": 14226.52}, {"text": "would he do what would he do you know we're look we're looking at", "start": 14226.52, "end": 14232.159}, {"text": "it and we're we're looking at uh the city needs a lot of things but uh", "start": 14232.159, "end": 14239.64}, {"text": "I don't know what the money would cost to to do this but our city is hurting in the", "start": 14239.64, "end": 14247.76}, {"text": "infrastructure and other areas so what do you think John net", "start": 14247.76, "end": 14252.8}, {"text": "would do think about that what would he", "start": 14252.8, "end": 14257.96}, {"text": "do thank you is there uh any other public comment", "start": 14257.96, "end": 14263.12}, {"text": "at this time seeing none all closed public comment James you had a comment yeah oh sorry I", "start": 14263.12, "end": 14269.8}, {"text": "was just going to really quick um going to what we're", "start": 14269.8, "end": 14275.159}, {"text": "looking at is just only changing uh this sign here uh nothing on", "start": 14275.159, "end": 14281.199}, {"text": "the building or anything it's just this one that you see on the parkway um it needs to be", "start": 14281.199, "end": 14286.76}, {"text": "updated uh anyway because we do have the old logo there and and we are looking you know we have we'll have to have the", "start": 14286.76, "end": 14292.6}, {"text": "new logo on there as well so just to not create more confusion or anything we're", "start": 14292.6, "end": 14298}, {"text": "just looking of replacing and putting the name on this sign that you see on the screen is there any ballpark on how", "start": 14298, "end": 14303.88}, {"text": "many hundreds of thousands of dollars that would cost uh I think it was like couple hundred to a thousand I", "start": 14303.88, "end": 14310.56}, {"text": "think it was it wasn't it wasn't crazy yeah I I are we done with public", "start": 14310.56, "end": 14317.479}, {"text": "comment I will I would move to uh move to approve the resolution uh renaming", "start": 14317.479, "end": 14322.76}, {"text": "the pump Coast Community Center to the John N Community Center okay so I have a motion on the floor is there a", "start": 14322.76, "end": 14329.521}, {"text": "second so hearing no second then the motion will", "start": 14332.199, "end": 14337.84}, {"text": "fail all right I will make a motion to name the large um meeting room what is", "start": 14337.84, "end": 14344.8}, {"text": "it the is it the sunshine room Sunshine yeah the sunshine room after John Nets in his memory and I and along with that", "start": 14344.8, "end": 14349.92}, {"text": "motion I would say that if there is some type of plaque um stating his years of service and maybe some of his um larger", "start": 14349.92, "end": 14357.64}, {"text": "accomplishments that be placed in that room in some type of I don't know where", "start": 14357.64, "end": 14362.96}, {"text": "a center a nice place would be toer we can find a place crazy thing is though I don't know how many other people have", "start": 14362.96, "end": 14369.64}, {"text": "some have the magnitude of John Nets and that's the crazy thing is that without being here to experience John Nets I don't know if we're going to have a", "start": 14369.64, "end": 14375.8}, {"text": "future where somebody can ever meet those type of requirements so in the future you may have to revisit this whole renaming uh thing because if we", "start": 14375.8, "end": 14382.319}, {"text": "look at it in like an honest scale very few people have been and because of where we are as a city now we have", "start": 14382.319, "end": 14387.56}, {"text": "100,000 people there's very few individuals who are such a founding Community member I don't disagree with", "start": 14387.56, "end": 14392.8}, {"text": "you and I know I wasn't here but I do know about his accomplishments and I and I and I I think he's a very accomplished", "start": 14392.8, "end": 14399.64}, {"text": "person I it's the objective Concept in itself that I have an objection to so um", "start": 14399.64, "end": 14406.04}, {"text": "I hear you I do but that's my motion okay so there's a motion so I'll ask if", "start": 14406.04, "end": 14411.12}, {"text": "there's a second to that motion why I mean is this really but is this", "start": 14411.12, "end": 14418.56}, {"text": "following our guidelines so actually it it it is not", "start": 14418.56, "end": 14425.04}, {"text": "um well we're not renaming a building I I don't know if I'm I'm just trying to", "start": 14425.04, "end": 14430.159}, {"text": "to get us somewhere no no I I hear you um I can I'm happy to fill out a form", "start": 14430.159, "end": 14436.72}, {"text": "and um do it the right way if that's council's pleasure um to councilman Kit's point you know if there's a", "start": 14436.72, "end": 14444.159}, {"text": "genuine fear that we might not get there somewhere for him I want to prevent that that's", "start": 14444.159, "end": 14450}, {"text": "all okay so we have had a motion we voted on the motion the motion failed", "start": 14451.72, "end": 14457.56}, {"text": "the second motion I think is is not it doesn't follow our guidelines right at this time so um additional direction to", "start": 14457.56, "end": 14466.84}, {"text": "staff would you like to all counselor you're giving me a funny look there so I", "start": 14466.84, "end": 14473.159}, {"text": "I'm just trying to go along and look at a solution here I'm not so sure Tech", "start": 14473.159, "end": 14478.84}, {"text": "hey it's cool I got like a million minutes I'm not so sure it techically does not follow the guidelines I think in this way uh and well wait the the", "start": 14478.84, "end": 14486.88}, {"text": "guidelines I think it just help helped me with this the is it a committee is it", "start": 14486.88, "end": 14493.439}, {"text": "a committee no it's the beautification beautification committee yeah committee", "start": 14493.439, "end": 14498.68}, {"text": "was to bring forward a suggestion which they did and we voted on so I'm not not", "start": 14498.68, "end": 14504.199}, {"text": "sure I mean are we okay just to override it without I mean is that it's a it's a", "start": 14504.199, "end": 14509.8}, {"text": "recommendation by the BAC for Council to approve are we okay to just override", "start": 14509.8, "end": 14517.04}, {"text": "that recommendation I mean if we are then I apologize I would have to look to see like how you guys set that up is", "start": 14517.04, "end": 14522.479}, {"text": "there some type of resolution ordinance says hey it has to come from them because in in theory then then you would", "start": 14522.479, "end": 14528.439}, {"text": "have to say hey we're going to override it on this one specific area to do that so you I you know quite honestly I don't", "start": 14528.439, "end": 14535.319}, {"text": "know that I want to set a precedent to do that either so I'll withdraw the motion and uh we'll look to bring this", "start": 14535.319, "end": 14540.8}, {"text": "back with the new Council okay that's I think where we're at all right I app and I appreciate your efforts both of you uh", "start": 14540.8, "end": 14547.8}, {"text": "councilman to to revisit this and understand councilman Kus and and quite frankly my own uh understanding of the", "start": 14547.8, "end": 14554.88}, {"text": "history the significant piece of history that the gentleman represents for the", "start": 14554.88, "end": 14560.72}, {"text": "history of Palm Coast which is you know we don't have all that much history so", "start": 14560.72, "end": 14565.96}, {"text": "he's a fairly significant component to the relatively short number of years that we've been a city so uh if you", "start": 14565.96, "end": 14572}, {"text": "would you know make it bring it forward for that discussion I certainly would appreciate that thank", "start": 14572, "end": 14577.88}, {"text": "you and just to answer Steve Carr's question what would John Nets say I think John Nets would say give it to somebody else who who deserves it I", "start": 14577.88, "end": 14583.56}, {"text": "think that's also part of the reason why John Nets was so deserving of it yeah all right good I appreciate hearing that", "start": 14583.56, "end": 14588.92}, {"text": "good answer thank you all right James thank you with that we'll move to uh consent", "start": 14588.92, "end": 14594.279}, {"text": "um Jason did you have uh something you had to bring in Jason has a presentation there's still one more item", "start": 14594.279, "end": 14601.12}, {"text": "mayor it's quick what am I missing oh I'm sorry", "start": 14601.12, "end": 14607.08}, {"text": "yeah uh so resolution 2024 dxx approving a donation of surplus equipment to the", "start": 14607.08, "end": 14613.76}, {"text": "city of banel uh good afternoon mayor city council Jason Lorenzo Chief of Staff um", "start": 14613.76, "end": 14621.359}, {"text": "from your backup you uh saw that we got a request from the city of of benell for", "start": 14621.359, "end": 14628.359}, {"text": "some equipment that would help them make their operation efficient uh more efficient so we reviewed uh the items", "start": 14628.359, "end": 14635.439}, {"text": "that they were looking for which included these these seven items a dump truck a sweet streer a vac truck an", "start": 14635.439, "end": 14642.359}, {"text": "excavator a bucket truck a turbine blower and a riding edger Fleet went and", "start": 14642.359, "end": 14649.279}, {"text": "uh looked at those requests and saw uh to see what we had available ailable and", "start": 14649.279, "end": 14654.72}, {"text": "the condition of it um the dump truck we uh have a Mac dump truck that was", "start": 14654.72, "end": 14661.359}, {"text": "planned for a replacement you uh already approved that replacement um the street sweeper we recently uh recently sorry", "start": 14661.359, "end": 14670.239}, {"text": "recently replaced um so we won't have another one um available for 7 to 10", "start": 14670.239, "end": 14675.64}, {"text": "years we sold a vac truck on at auction on September the 23rd we do have a small", "start": 14675.64, "end": 14681.84}, {"text": "excavator that was planned for replacement in fiscal year 25 um our bucket truck was uh broken and", "start": 14681.84, "end": 14689.479}, {"text": "not of value uh to them and the other two items we currently don't have", "start": 14689.479, "end": 14696.319}, {"text": "so this is the dump truck it's asset at number 1621 as I mentioned it was already", "start": 14696.319, "end": 14702.6}, {"text": "planned for replacement has 110,000 Mi on it and an estimated auction value of", "start": 14702.6, "end": 14707.92}, {"text": "40,000 and this is the excavator asset number 2032 with a estimated residual value of", "start": 14707.92, "end": 14716.159}, {"text": "15 to 20,000 and this resolution asks you to", "start": 14716.159, "end": 14721.199}, {"text": "authorize the city manager to Surplus the donated assets uh to the city of", "start": 14721.199, "end": 14728.88}, {"text": "benell questions from city council do we get any draft picks or anything in the trade or how's that draft picks yes sir", "start": 14728.88, "end": 14735.199}, {"text": "yeah we have dirt too you can tell we have dirt good one councilman gambero yeah just a", 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of their life I mean it's not like", "start": 14823, "end": 14828.159}, {"text": "they may work for what another year or two or they were um they've already gone through the evaluation process and they", "start": 14828.159, "end": 14834.68}, {"text": "are being replaced the next step would be auction or donation okay do we get any sort of", "start": 14834.68, "end": 14841.8}, {"text": "credit tax credit anything from from the donation I don't believe so you could", "start": 14841.8, "end": 14846.88}, {"text": "look to the and I I I agree with you the collaborative efforts and the opportunity that exist uh between uh", "start": 14846.88, "end": 14854.479}, {"text": "benell and the City of Palm Coast in the future could be rewarding I think uh in the long term get the credit of", "start": 14854.479, "end": 14861.399}, {"text": "Goodwill okay well uh I'm very comfortable with this because I've I've dealt in billions of dollars of donating", "start": 14861.399, "end": 14867.64}, {"text": "and and seeing the net effect to to to our teammates and and the City of benell is is is our teammate here in the county", "start": 14867.64, "end": 14873.84}, {"text": "so I'm I'm comfortable with this thank you mayor in my haste I should have mentioned this is we we've done this", "start": 14873.84, "end": 14879.56}, {"text": "before I don't believe it was with banel we donated some uh older fire apparatus", "start": 14879.56, "end": 14886.08}, {"text": "to a city in Hudson Valley New York I don't remember exactly what it was a while", "start": 14886.08, "end": 14891.76}, {"text": "ago Council no questions I think that vel's success is our success so I agreed", "start": 14891.76, "end": 14897.56}, {"text": "councilman nope all good absolutely okay um let's open up to the public any", "start": 14897.56, "end": 14903.72}, {"text": "comments from the public see I will I'm the", "start": 14903.72, "end": 14912.761}, {"text": "tax silia again how many times we say no to the residents 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there", "start": 15007.359, "end": 15012.92}, {"text": "any opposed the motion passes unanimously thank you I think now we move to our consent agenda I are there", "start": 15012.92, "end": 15020.68}, {"text": "any comments from city council members on items in the consent agenda I have a", "start": 15020.68, "end": 15026.399}, {"text": "couple questions on items 12 17 and 18 12 17 okay uh for 12 the master Services", "start": 15026.399, "end": 15035.04}, {"text": "agreement with multiple firms for disaster financial recovery consultant Services actually I have the same", "start": 15035.04, "end": 15041.199}, {"text": "question for all three of these why are we hiring outside contractors to do work", "start": 15041.199, "end": 15047.88}, {"text": "that I feel like our staff should currently be doing so for specifically", "start": 15047.88, "end": 15053}, {"text": "uh for number 12 Helena can come up and um help correct me if I'm wrong but", "start": 15053, "end": 15058.04}, {"text": 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you Chief yes sir Kyle bar hill pump Coast fire department um those are the jaws of", "start": 15482.52, "end": 15490.159}, {"text": "life so we've slowly transitioned to way from um an hydraulically powered but", "start": 15490.159, "end": 15497.399}, {"text": "gasoline generator powered version of these to a battery powered hydraulic", "start": 15497.399, "end": 15502.88}, {"text": "tool and um although there are multiple manufacturers that make this make a", "start": 15502.88, "end": 15509.92}, {"text": "version of this tool um this is uh uh this manufacturer which the nafco", "start": 15509.92, "end": 15515.399}, {"text": "contract is what we're approving um is what's the requested approval on the consent agena this manufacturer is", "start": 15515.399, "end": 15520.92}, {"text": "consistent with the inter operability would be a main reason for the soul Source situation today so these tools", "start": 15520.92, "end": 15528.08}, {"text": "would be able to the battery specifically um would be transferable so if we were to arrive at a scene two", "start": 15528.08, "end": 15534.8}, {"text": "engines that both needed to utilize um you know this cutting equipment uh we", "start": 15534.8, "end": 15539.92}, {"text": "would be able and actually we're trying to plan so that every engine doesn't have every tool so when two arrive they", "start": 15539.92, "end": 15546.56}, {"text": "have complimentary um things which you see for budgeted for this year something called a Combi tool we used to have two", "start": 15546.56, "end": 15552.399}, {"text": "separate separate tools that were each in the $115,000 range one cut and one spread um and then we have another tool", "start": 15552.399, "end": 15558.96}, {"text": "called a ram that also spreads um but this is a combination tool that both cuts and spreads um so yes sir this is a", "start": 15558.96, "end": 15566.399}, {"text": "sole source because um the manufacture we want to remain consistent in our Fleet so that that way it also helps us", "start": 15566.399, "end": 15572.119}, {"text": "when things go out of service uh some of those kind of things but that's the nature of this request great thank you", "start": 15572.119, "end": 15577.6}, {"text": "yes sir yeah that answers my question that take care of it very good thank you Chief yes sir all right with that I", "start": 15577.6, "end": 15582.76}, {"text": "would uh open up uh the consent agenda to public", "start": 15582.76, "end": 15588.84}, {"text": "comment let me", "start": 15588.84, "end": 15592.239}, {"text": "guess uh 91 in PCOS um uh the first item 12 uh is not free", "start": 15594.359, "end": 15602.88}, {"text": "consultation I understand that um our administrator sorry my memory I know her", "start": 15602.88, "end": 15610.119}, {"text": "name but I I don't remember now that she does a good job she said that would cost", "start": 15610.119, "end": 15615.319}, {"text": "50 5% not 50 5% of the approv amount", "start": 15615.319, "end": 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manies thank you thank you for", "start": 15672.159, "end": 15678.439}, {"text": "that are there any other public comments seeing none I'll close public comment and I would uh entertain a motion on the", "start": 15678.439, "end": 15685.52}, {"text": "consent agenda I will move to approve the consent agenda as read I have a", "start": 15685.52, "end": 15690.96}, {"text": "motion from councilman Kus uh to approve in a second uh from councilman gambaro", "start": 15690.96, "end": 15697.04}, {"text": "to approve any final discussion all in favor please signify by saying I I are", "start": 15697.04, "end": 15703.479}, {"text": "there any opposed the motion passes the count very good so with that I will uh", "start": 15703.479, "end": 15709.92}, {"text": "we'll conclude to well we'll move to J which is public participation are there any members of the public that would", "start": 15709.92, "end": 15715.56}, {"text": "like to comment on items not previously discussed in today's agenda seeing none I'll close public", "start": 15715.56, "end": 15723.359}, {"text": "comment are there any discussion by members of city council that were not on today's agenda um can you come to me", "start": 15723.359, "end": 15730.52}, {"text": "last would you mind coming to me last yeah that's fine thank you I'm sorry I just naturally no that's okay yes sir", "start": 15730.52, "end": 15737.04}, {"text": "okay I um well first and foremost happy Veterans Day to all of our veterans in our community and and to", "start": 15737.04, "end": 15744}, {"text": "those in our city um and I wanted just to personally thank uh uh mayor Alin", "start": 15744, "end": 15749.96}, {"text": "vice mayor uh Dano uh and councilman kuus um uh for their service to our city", "start": 15749.96, "end": 15757.72}, {"text": "it's uh you know everybody says when they encourage you to try to become part of this you know just distinguished body", "start": 15757.72, "end": 15765.64}, {"text": "hey you know it's a part-time job this and that and everybody here whether we agree or disagree everybody here works", "start": 15765.64, "end": 15772.199}, {"text": "hard uh for the members of our community and the fact that you you gentlemen have done it for so many years uh it's a", "start": 15772.199, "end": 15778.92}, {"text": "testimony to your commitment to uh public service and a commitment to this community um and everybody has driven", "start": 15778.92, "end": 15785.439}, {"text": "change in a positive way so I just wanted to say thank you thank you very much thank you um", "start": 15785.439, "end": 15792.76}, {"text": "and uh before before I um proceed I actually wrote down my notes because I", "start": 15792.76, "end": 15799.439}, {"text": "wanted to be very uh specific um so I'm going to ask for consensus of of the", "start": 15799.439, "end": 15804.76}, {"text": "council um on I think it's a very important issue that involves our military veterans in our community", "start": 15804.76, "end": 15811.6}, {"text": "because it it involves the gaps in our leave policy our military leave policy", "start": 15811.6, "end": 15816.88}, {"text": "uh for our employees who serve in the National Guard and the Army Reserves and also the state guard what I'm asking for", "start": 15816.88, "end": 15824.359}, {"text": "is consensus from the council to direct the staff and our City attorney to go through a review process and bring back", "start": 15824.359, "end": 15830.08}, {"text": "to council some recommendations on revising and improving these policies um", "start": 15830.08, "end": 15836}, {"text": "I I bring this matter up because this is been brought to my attention by several constituents and I think it's important", "start": 15836, "end": 15842.04}, {"text": "that we take a hard look at our current uh policies for our National Guard uh", "start": 15842.04, "end": 15847.159}, {"text": "and Reserve members uh and no City employee should suffer financially uh and have to choose between serving you", "start": 15847.159, "end": 15853.88}, {"text": "know our community and also serving our country when it comes to um some gaps that we might have so I I would just", "start": 15853.88, "end": 15859.88}, {"text": "like for us to take a a look at it review it uh see if it makes sense and then move forward down the road if the", "start": 15859.88, "end": 15866.56}, {"text": "if the new Council uh agrees so Charlie the just just the", "start": 15866.56, "end": 15872.64}, {"text": "policy in general just the policy in general yes Mr Mayor okay just to take a look at it U and where where the rubbers", "start": 15872.64, "end": 15879.64}, {"text": "meetting the road on this one is there's our policy supports some federal active", "start": 15879.64, "end": 15885.119}, {"text": "duty orders but like for State active duty orders like we just had with the hurricane um okay it's under if it's", "start": 15885.119, "end": 15892.199}, {"text": "under 30 days for State active duty orders um it's not covered and and and", "start": 15892.199, "end": 15898.76}, {"text": "what we have to look at is well when when one of our city employees whether", "start": 15898.76, "end": 15904.239}, {"text": "firefighter you know DPW worker has to go do this then they don't receive their salary well guess what happens their", "start": 15904.239, "end": 15910.6}, {"text": "insurance gets turned off also medical so there is a policy actually in place that can be reviewed it is yeah and what", "start": 15910.6, "end": 15916.8}, {"text": "I'm asking is just for us to review it and see if if it if it meets a current needs of our city employees I think you", "start": 15916.8, "end": 15922.76}, {"text": "have consensus here yes so that would I guess become an agenda item uh at some point yeah Workshop however is best sure", "start": 15922.76, "end": 15929.88}, {"text": "um yeah we'll look into that I'm not sure um City policies and procedures are adopted by city council I don't believe", "start": 15929.88, "end": 15937.159}, {"text": "they are but we'll look into that okay okay thank you very good um thanks again", "start": 15937.159, "end": 15942.84}, {"text": "for your service thank you very much and for uh you the notes and no that's it and for uh and and for supporting me to", "start": 15942.84, "end": 15950.199}, {"text": "serve on this Council thank you very much councilman ponter want to go last", "start": 15950.199, "end": 15955.319}, {"text": "so ladies first my last one you okay yeah no I'll let you go yeah no problem", "start": 15955.319, "end": 15960.76}, {"text": "um I I I guess I just um didn't want to take away your Thunder thank you both it's been a pleasure serving with you", "start": 15960.76, "end": 15967.08}, {"text": "for two years um it's been interesting we've had a lot but you know I was thinking about the other day we've done", "start": 15967.08, "end": 15973.399}, {"text": "a lot of really good stuff we really have I'm I'm proud of a lot of the things that we've been able to get done these last couple years and so I wish", "start": 15973.399, "end": 15979.96}, {"text": "you the best of luck in whatever you do in the future and um look forward to actually being able to speak to you", "start": 15979.96, "end": 15985.72}, {"text": "right now we can't um so that'll be nice um I also want to thank all of our", "start": 15985.72, "end": 15991.64}, {"text": "veterans thank you for serving our our country and um thank you for the beautiful event yesterday I was unable", "start": 15991.64, "end": 15998.04}, {"text": "to go because I was still feeling under the weather but um greatly appreciative to our community for putting on such a", "start": 15998.04, "end": 16003.08}, {"text": "wonderful event um I want to recognize one of our employees um Dylan com so we have an", "start": 16003.08, "end": 16010.119}, {"text": "employee of the month every month and um this specifically had to do with some", "start": 16010.119, "end": 16015.8}, {"text": "extra efforts that he went out of his way to perform um to stop some water", "start": 16015.8, "end": 16021.119}, {"text": "intrusion in a property in a backyard and I think that that's really relevant right now um obviously and um this young", "start": 16021.119, "end": 16027.84}, {"text": "man just went above and beyond to serve a member of our community so I wanted to recogniz him and thank him for his", "start": 16027.84, "end": 16034.439}, {"text": "efforts um lastly uh it came out in the news a week or two ago that um vice", "start": 16034.439, "end": 16042.52}, {"text": "mayor Denko engaged in what I think is some um", "start": 16042.52, "end": 16048.399}, {"text": "pretty uh I don't even know what you would call it um disconcerting Behavior with regards", "start": 16048.399, "end": 16056.96}, {"text": "to trying to orchestrate a lawsuit being filed against the city for the", "start": 16056.96, "end": 16063.92}, {"text": "referendum that we put on the ballot that he voted to put on the ballot um it is within every single", "start": 16063.92, "end": 16070.88}, {"text": "Council person's purview to agree and disagree with the policy that we come up", "start": 16070.88, "end": 16077.279}, {"text": "with uh from this board it is with every within everybody's purview to engage in", "start": 16077.279, "end": 16083.359}, {"text": "speaking about that um your freedom of speech is your freedom of speech you're able to speak out against it you're able", "start": 16083.359, "end": 16089.319}, {"text": "to agree with it disagree with it whatever it may be but when you take that next step to not only vote in a", "start": 16089.319, "end": 16096.319}, {"text": "certain way but then to try to get residence to sue the city that you are", "start": 16096.319, "end": 16103.439}, {"text": "supposed to represent for that referendum costing the taxpayers money", "start": 16103.439, "end": 16109.68}, {"text": "and then sit up here and say oh well we shouldn't be spending taxpayer dollars on the lawsuit that was filed against us", "start": 16109.68, "end": 16116.319}, {"text": "is beyond the pale and then in addition to those actions you engage in a shade", "start": 16116.319, "end": 16123.04}, {"text": "meeting making decisions on behalf of the city and on behalf of our taxpayers", "start": 16123.04, "end": 16128.359}, {"text": "that are supposed to be in the best interest of interests of the city when all the while you were trying to get", "start": 16128.359, "end": 16134.199}, {"text": "residents to sue the very city that you represent the conflict of interest in", "start": 16134.199, "end": 16140.8}, {"text": "this regard is inexplicable I can't the mental gymnastics that had to have been", "start": 16140.8, "end": 16146.6}, {"text": "taking place um I can't even imagine I", "start": 16146.6, "end": 16152.96}, {"text": "fear that if we don't do something about this on this board we are tacitly", "start": 16152.96, "end": 16158.239}, {"text": "approving that behavior and I refuse to do that um this action is an addition to several", "start": 16158.239, "end": 16166.76}, {"text": "other things that councilman Denko has done that I abhor disagree with um one", "start": 16166.76, "end": 16174.119}, {"text": "of them mayor is putting a gif of you all over social media making donkey sounds it's incredibly disrespectful", "start": 16174.119, "end": 16181.84}, {"text": "there there's a complete lack of professional courtesy we are free to disagree I don't want to impose on", "start": 16181.84, "end": 16188.399}, {"text": "anybody's freedom of speech but we also have a certain level of decorum that we must conduct ourselves with and decorum", "start": 16188.399, "end": 16196.04}, {"text": "went out the window as soon as that gif hit social media that behavior should not be", "start": 16196.04, "end": 16202.72}, {"text": "accepted by this Council the behaviors of threatening staff that I've heard", "start": 16202.72, "end": 16208.6}, {"text": "about threatening fellow council members that I've heard about I I just cannot continue to say that's", "start": 16208.6, "end": 16215.119}, {"text": "okay and as we usher in a new board three new members I think we need to set a standard um that that type of behavior", "start": 16215.119, "end": 16223.52}, {"text": "cannot continue so I have not spoken up about those", "start": 16223.52, "end": 16229}, {"text": "items before because again I don't want to impose on somebody's freedom of speech but when I take that in", "start": 16229, "end": 16234.479}, {"text": "conjunction with the most recent story that we heard about Mr Danko trying to", "start": 16234.479, "end": 16239.72}, {"text": "get a resident to sue the city suggesting providing an attorney for it suggesting that it would be pro bono", "start": 16239.72, "end": 16246.88}, {"text": "suggesting that um they he would put that person in contact with an attorney and actually facilitating meetings and", 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second it and I will say I", "start": 16299.08, "end": 16304.399}, {"text": "have two regrets over the last eight years which are standing on my head one is not", "start": 16304.399, "end": 16310.399}, {"text": "standing up more against uh when vice mayor Dano was out there campaigning against our previous mayor Melissa", "start": 16310.399, "end": 16316.159}, {"text": "Holland spreading lies door to-door on ring cameras I thought that was absolutely astonishing to me and then", "start": 16316.159, "end": 16321.399}, {"text": "number two ever allowing him to have the title of vice mayor and some hope hoping that he would become more of an adult and be able to understand the uh", "start": 16321.399, "end": 16328.439}, {"text": "enormity of the situation and that title in itself so uh for those reasons I absolutely second your motion I think it", "start": 16328.439, "end": 16334.479}, {"text": "is long time that we established the decorum that existed when I uh first started on this political journey and I", "start": 16334.479, "end": 16340.92}, {"text": "think that is a more successful path for our Council because really we're just a our success is a function of how well we", "start": 16340.92, "end": 16346.76}, {"text": "all can work together and his behavior is unacceptable okay so I have a motion in a second um there is no public for", "start": 16346.76, "end": 16354.56}, {"text": "public comment although open public comment I'll close public comment any further discussion", "start": 16354.56, "end": 16362.358}, {"text": "we we can do this the center yes so this is a uh a", "start": 16363.8, "end": 16370.88}, {"text": "parliamentary procedure where if you think that a council member is not following as Council woman pontier", "start": 16370.88, "end": 16377.119}, {"text": "deorum our policy this is a way of kind of putting it in writing saying you're not following procedures that we would", "start": 16377.119, "end": 16383.399}, {"text": "like you to follow in a certain or his conduct is Unbecoming in in in a certain scenario do we have precedent for this", "start": 16383.399, "end": 16391.24}, {"text": "uh during dur my time I have not I mean since this city's been established do we have precedent for this there is nothing", "start": 16391.24, "end": 16397.719}, {"text": "that is says in your policy procedures talks about censor but is a normal p p I", "start": 16397.719, "end": 16403.279}, {"text": "can't say the word parliamentary action there would be a censor beneath Robert's rules for failure to provide to um", "start": 16403.279, "end": 16409.32}, {"text": "follow our policies and procedures with regards to deorum yeah I think we have moved for centuries before previous", "start": 16409.32, "end": 16415.199}, {"text": "councils that I've been part of have you y excuse me okay and Mr gambaro I would also say it is usually normal to have", "start": 16415.199, "end": 16422.4}, {"text": "something like that in your policy for some reason the city doesn't so that could be something that we could have discussion with the new", "start": 16422.4, "end": 16428.6}, {"text": "Council okay I just I wish the vice mayor was here to defend himself you know I and I agree I didn't realize he", "start": 16428.6, "end": 16434.639}, {"text": "would be leaving early today are we surprised though I have no comment on that fair", "start": 16434.639, "end": 16440.439}, {"text": "okay me neither I'm conflicted with the motion", "start": 16440.439, "end": 16447.08}, {"text": "not because I disagree with your desire to to set a standard certainly when I", "start": 16447.08, "end": 16454.76}, {"text": "was elected my first uh obligation I felt was to restore some level of", "start": 16454.76, "end": 16461.799}, {"text": "decorum if you'll remember the days at that time was conflicted with everything but fistic cuffs and it was complicated", "start": 16461.799, "end": 16468.4}, {"text": "so it's certainly been a a driving Factor um important to me from day one", "start": 16468.4, "end": 16474.639}, {"text": "um I think we have you know worked towards the Quorum but there", "start": 16474.639, "end": 16481.799}, {"text": "have been episodes and incidents which certainly I'm not okay with my", "start": 16481.799, "end": 16487.08}, {"text": "reservation is that having been the Target and remaining silent I do not", "start": 16487.08, "end": 16492.32}, {"text": "want this to appear to be a retaliatory or any kind of a uh reaction that's not", "start": 16492.32, "end": 16499.719}, {"text": "my style and not my way I'm uh a much bigger and broader shouldered person", "start": 16499.719, "end": 16504.959}, {"text": "than that and if I think that social media gifts are really the deciding factor in the World At Large and then", "start": 16504.959, "end": 16512.16}, {"text": "I'm just lost in all of that but with that said um I guess I will go ahead and", "start": 16512.16, "end": 16519.879}, {"text": "call the vote May mayor may just so I I do agree with you to an extent that you know the the gift is the gift whatever", "start": 16519.879, "end": 16526.439}, {"text": "but and that's why I haven't moved for this action before but the lawsuit issue is a completely that's a different", "start": 16526.439, "end": 16532.52}, {"text": "playing field I that's a different playing field so I think that's what really needs to be considered is is", "start": 16532.52, "end": 16538.52}, {"text": "going out and financially being okay with potentially harming the city working with a resident behind closed", "start": 16538.52, "end": 16544.48}, {"text": "doors to sue us and then engaging in a shade meeting when clearly there's a", "start": 16544.48, "end": 16549.799}, {"text": "conflict of interest okay so the move for censure is is is is it's based", "start": 16549.799, "end": 16556.799}, {"text": "prioritized to that to that particular issue corre correct all right as with the ethics complaint let me be very", "start": 16556.799, "end": 16562.52}, {"text": "clear about that okay um I don't know how the ethics complaint", "start": 16562.52, "end": 16568.561}, {"text": "research moves forward other than uh with future city council members I guess", "start": 16568.561, "end": 16573.6}, {"text": "obviously that's what be based on this motion that you this they want me to look in filing a", "start": 16573.6, "end": 16580.68}, {"text": "ethics complaint against Mr Deno okay then call a vote council member gambaro no council", "start": 16580.68, "end": 16587.92}, {"text": "member kuus I council member pontier yes mayor Alin yes the motion passes three", "start": 16587.92, "end": 16593.279}, {"text": "to one all right with that um we're still", "start": 16593.279, "end": 16599.959}, {"text": "on council member comments so the I have no such uh thunder so you're not stealing any", "start": 16599.959, "end": 16606.4}, {"text": "Thunder from me the only comment I can make is uh I've not yet been able to put", "start": 16606.4, "end": 16612.639}, {"text": "together an answer for my wife who I will thank uh for allowing me to do this for this long and her question always", "start": 16612.639, "end": 16619.199}, {"text": "being why are you doing this but we all understand how those questions in family go so um with that", "start": 16619.199, "end": 16626.439}, {"text": "um are there any I didn't go oh I'm sorry oh oh I I could wait till next meeting but no no so sorry uh I just", "start": 16626.439, "end": 16633.799}, {"text": "wanted to say uh first of all thank you so much uh to everyone who's ever been a part of this Venture it's it's", "start": 16633.799, "end": 16638.879}, {"text": "absolutely crazy I wanted to thank uh emergency service workers First Responders thank you guys for being on the Forefront of keeping our community", "start": 16638.879, "end": 16645.439}, {"text": "safe I wanted to thank leadership uh you guys are absolutely amazing you tremendous tremendous individuals in", "start": 16645.439, "end": 16652.4}, {"text": "your own rights but you work collaboratively to bring the city to the level and standard that we know and love today and I was trying to think of a", "start": 16652.4, "end": 16658.76}, {"text": "bunch of funny stuff that I could do up here yesterday I was leaving the southern record recation Center and I said wow this place is amazing over the", "start": 16658.76, "end": 16664.08}, {"text": "last eight years so much has changed we have the new community center the southern Recreation Center uh Waterfront Park all of the Indian Trail Sports", "start": 16664.08, "end": 16670.52}, {"text": "Complex has changed the New York Jets are still terrible uh but besides besides those things I would be remiss", "start": 16670.52, "end": 16676.959}, {"text": "if I didn't thank my predecessors as well uh Bob cuff Melissa Holland John Nets Eddie banino of my sta uh my peers", "start": 16676.959, "end": 16683.199}, {"text": "that were sitting up here uh now I thank you so much and I have trust that the city is going to move in the uh correct", "start": 16683.199, "end": 16688.84}, {"text": "direction and I really couldn't be more humbled and thankful for the opportunity that I've had to leave my fingerprint on", "start": 16688.84, "end": 16694.799}, {"text": "the city and I I will leave it at that just a humble thank you and I can't say", "start": 16694.799, "end": 16699.92}, {"text": "anymore and uh I just appreciate it a ton eight years is a big part of my life and I have grown tremendously and you", "start": 16699.92, "end": 16705.84}, {"text": "guys have been part of that I wish you guys the best of luck and I know that you guys are going to keep uh and take care of the city very well thank you", "start": 16705.84, "end": 16711.879}, {"text": "nicely said thank you uh City also can I just thank my family real quick my mom and sister thank you", "start": 16711.879, "end": 16719.32}, {"text": "okay nothing for me Mr Mayor uh mayor city council I just want to say", "start": 16719.4, "end": 16725.32}, {"text": "thank you for your leadership um it it is wonderful to work with you call call you all the time whenever things are", "start": 16725.32, "end": 16731.959}, {"text": "happening um we look forward to the continuation of new leadership coming in and just furthering the growth and", "start": 16731.959, "end": 16738.719}, {"text": "progression of our beautiful and amazing City cuz it is wonderful here and people do love living in beautiful Palm Coast", "start": 16738.719, "end": 16745.879}, {"text": "Florida so when you have a meeting this long we usually celebrate with cake so", "start": 16745.879, "end": 16751.561}, {"text": "um I believe Kendra has some snacks for us but just just from the bottom of our hearts thank you so much oh we thank you", "start": 16751.561, "end": 16758.08}, {"text": "and staff look at that thank you ah isn't that nice what the one corner of", "start": 16758.08, "end": 16763.84}, {"text": "the word that could have been an entrance I sure forward the cake", "start": 16763.84, "end": 16769.879}, {"text": "yes i' second that all right well that I'll uh in advance of the cake I'll go", "start": 16769.879, "end": 16775.24}, {"text": "ahead and um adjourn the meeting thank you very much um and maybe just ask so I", "start": 16775.24, "end": 16782.4}, {"text": "will be uh you two will be here on uh next Tuesday I doubt just just me I'll be the", "start": 16782.4, "end": 16789.52}, {"text": "loone Survivor here we need at least a quorum to open the meeting certify the election results yeah no I need to be", "start": 16789.52, "end": 16795.638}, {"text": "here to pass pass the gavl so yeah so fine good okay good good enough Fair all right are we adjourned hit the g yes", "start": 16795.638, "end": 16804.08}, {"text": "y ER [Applause]", "start": 16804.08, "end": 16809.6}]